they go yes there on social networks. i saw, for example, there, or rather, i heard there, and how two people cursed and it was written, and it was written, and in the ukrainian telegram channel they actually scold these people there. why are they here in this way, as if framed ukraine there yes, and now hardly anyone will believe. this is after the events in bucha. when they talked, it seemed to be like and this boatswain. yes, i think it was the boatswain. yes, he has a nickname, yes, and some other there, uh, a man and one to another, so he shouted that there was nothing for you like a sheep you can't instruct, yes, but you will definitely fix it, there and so on and so forth, i don't know, but hmm exactly absolutely absolutely absolutely that in the current conditions, well, it is impossible to conduct any independent investigation. sergei agree no, and you know, but i will intervene in this dispute, and about the investigation. you understand, and the tragic paradox the paradox of the situation lies in the fact

that having this whole seemingly evidence base, scrupulously objectively collecting explaining what are the performance characteristics of the rocket, what her flight path is the wreckage. it would seem very easy to put everything on the shelves. nato, we disassemble and give out this situation into molecules, and at the same time it is impossible to prove anything. why why is it both very easy and very impossible at the same time, because it all depends on the starting point and the optics that you use and to whom you prove something. the audience on which you understand the information and you give. here is the key point. michael said the word faith, because the word faith is not compatible with investigation, because vera is here. i believe. you are bad, you are good. i am a criminal. i am, for example, an investigator. no more investigation. eh, it should not be here, that is, faith can exist as an auxiliary,

as an intuition, but still the basis is practice. and as for investigations. look, long before this whole nightmare, long before the fourteenth year. i want to remind everyone, uh, there was such a fashionable theory in the early nineties of the last year of justice without borders. it was said then that international tribunals were needed international tribunals for the former yugoslavia, an international tribunal for parliament, an international tribunal for cambodia, and so on and so on and so on, everyone seemed to like it. this idea, the king of show-off then spoke. and what happened. it turned out that this one is clean. yes, it appeared. the international criminal court, which the united states, by the way, the san rome statute, you remember, the united states did not join, they do not recognize it. yes , look, and it turned out that this one, this one, this one an idea that seems to be clean good idea, she was born. she became a bastard, because she was born with a severe birth injury and in fact the same

international terminal for the former yugoslavia turned into, what did it turn into such a court of history in the understanding of nato after all? yes, because we saw milosevic. yes, so to speak, here, but the other side is completely. i did everything, so now you understand, when we just condemned now, in fact, i agree that there are fewer mikes, and almost a few people are fewer. i am therefore i call upon all, when here we are discussing. yes, to say so. and there is an idea that we need an international tribunal over the nazis. yes , now steinmein says that the international people are already above us. here, let's remember how much the rake has already come in the world over the past 30 years, when they tried to figure it out with sparks, there and sruanda and from the balkans and so on, what it all came to long before the world became such a conflict, as it is now , then it

was less conflict, then we had more or less working normal relations well our actions in this situation. what do you think in general, what to do not pay attention. you know, despite all this informational background and the sharpening of that side, one way or another, give them some information confirming our innocence, what should we do? well , if again, so to speak, to operate on the experience that i'm talking about, how does it really work. here is as of today. this court of history is turning into a court of winners , yes, that is, they agreed, because t-shirt he told me history is written by the winners. yes , that's the way it is. yes? let's see the statement, not the pension about the events. i understand that you saw the corpses, heard the stories, but you only saw what they wanted to show you, you can’t help but see the glaring inconsistencies in the version of events that the ukrainian western media are promoting and the fact that there were no corpses in the city immediately after leaving russian troops. as evidenced

by several videos at once , either an absolutely amateur or our western ones can fall for this fake partners who do not want to listen to anything and have long been called black and white. and vice versa. unfortunately , these countries do not care about ukraine itself. for them, she was and is just a pawn, where they can easily sacrifice to the political game against russia. but for now, they will try to prolong this conflict , they supply more weapons and ammunition there. here, i absolutely agree with what our representative says, but i have friends. here is one thought in my head. and i just can't understand. so tell me, please. when here on the same the audience is a professional actor? and he says that russia has committed a crime, that the world urgently needs peace, that russia needs to be stopped, that you must hear, and

therefore see and feel. this pain is the tears of the ukrainian people, who are suffering now, and so on. this is one story and the second story, when we, uh, convey our point of view exclusively on a piece of paper, sometimes. eh, stumbling. actually according to this text. who do you think will be believed no more reasons understand? disagree disagree and agree. why for one simple reason? uh, have the most amazing acting talent. won't work . for the simple reason that you can't convince a liar that he's lying, because he already knows it, you will be a great actor 10 times, he still wo n't accept it. this is the first second international organization international law independent uh, investigations are all good. and that 's it. it works. it can also work in conditions

where there is a balance of power, only then the international the right to work. and this is where i have to disagree with you. you said that it was the americans who nullified international law. nothing like international law was nullified by those who destroyed the soviet union, those who eliminated the balance of power, who brought the unipolar world to the united states on silver platters, and as a result we have what we have and hence the current reaction unexpectedly for them it turned out that the story did not end the globe does not belong to them russia has reiterated that it is an independent player in the international arena, so you said that do? uh-huh, it's useless to prove. it is necessary to complete victoriously the special military operation to carry out the tasks that the president has set, and as a result of this, the world is changing, biden, it was not by chance that he said that as a result of this and this crisis. we

will enter another world order. quite right. we will enter another world order, where there will be two main forces, this is russia and the united states, and here we are in this situation again. works international law a little bit different world order implied when he said that they would come to some other, that as a result of this crisis they will break us, so i said what we must do, we must not break down and finish everything that the president has set all the tasks set by the victorious victory point - this is where the victory point is the question that a lot of people are also interested. where is victory, where is the point, where is the denazification of ukraine and the demilitarization of ukraine, the disappearance of ukraine as anti-russia, here is the victory point of disappearance. uh, like, just a second , denocification. that's it, right? this we all know what it looks like. here, how do you imagine it

? it's like that looks like the disappearance of anti-russia ukraine as anti-russia is like it does not exist? or she is, but she is big. she is small. it is here in this upper right corner, let's say, right? or in the lower left corner. here's how it all looks. and you know, right now it makes no sense to guess about it now. the most important thing is to set a goal for yourself. yes , achieve this goal. what are the boundaries of this we are not no no where is this goal, is it a corner yes, the goal of genocification, demilitarization, they are point on the map here what are we talking about? yeah, to those territories that we can liberate from the anti-ukrainian regime. we will carry it out. it is desirable that these territories coincide with the territory of the ukrainian state , all of its ukraine. yes, now, it's clear. yes, now it’s clear that there are no pieces of

it, from your point of view, about all of ukraine on the pieces that will remain under the control of the west. yes, captured by the west, there will remain in russia, we understand this, yes, let's return to this service. literally in 1 minute and we will continue our very interesting conversation with our guests. don't miss out on central television. sanctions are not over yet, the states are going to bring things to default, and europe will fence itself off from russia with the great european wall, but how will they split the european unity? why elections in european countries are won by politicians who are ready to be friends with russia transport blockade of kaliningrad why could europe's possible decision to close the borders of the russian enclave be a weighty pretext for war? this will be your central television tomorrow at 19:00 on ntv

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true, we continue to talk with our guests, but the situation in ukraine, nevertheless, nevertheless. we give this information your point of view there in different performance. as they say we offer. yes , it seems that there are people who are ready to hear it, but for some reason, all these people. they are not today's, but yesterday's, they are all retired for a long time, and this is also an amazing story, carl del ponta recalled. yes, sergei while she was sitting. actually in the chair. leaders of this tribunal. she acted like this, and as soon as she left. now, too, yes cattle. ritter also makes an interesting statement. yes please until let's see the statement of the cattle the name of the ukrainian special police unit that entered the storm was a safari and they were doing a safari to clean up pro-russian collaborators. purge means to kill not to seize, but to kill and they do it why they go and remove the corpses and say that they

made a russian that one eye crying in the desert there is the next one let's see, huh? let's see, firstly, we don't know exactly what actually happened in the bucha, and secondly, there is no evidence that moscow is to blame for this . the fact is that the ukrainians need to make a deal with russia so that she can keep crimea where the majority of the population is russian and where their naval base is located, because the creation of a rogue country from russia by a nuclear power equivalent to the united states is definitely not in our interests. do you know who is it? yes? michael yes everyone knows who it is? yes? absolutely right? yes, this is the kind of person who, well uphill diplomacy. yes, he knows the subject, knows the country, he knows all the new thinking. yes mister matla. yes, he makes this statement, that is, there are people there and in italy today there are people in germany and france who make all these statements. but how far from this, as the saying goes. nikolaevich yes , of course, there are people and and the statement is made, but,

unfortunately, they do not affect the mass on the audience to point o, except for the arguments to whom it is beneficial, point y is the only effective long-range weapon. it is no longer in ukraine. so , so that you know that how much missiles have been used up in 8 years, which is according to an internal order from the ministry of defense. it is not the combat crew that decides where to shoot, and most importantly the commander or supreme commander in chief. it is clear, but by the piece guys this is not then let's shoot there, like this. this is the first. second i you noticed there is an inscription for people. yes, i don’t know the ukrainian bridge across the wild across. and for the children, why was zelensky’s reaction immediately done? let the military say they track the trajectory, as the ministry of defense did. zelensky is already giving an assessment, putin is silent. and why is it necessary to conduct an investigation to really establish? who

did shoot, and now for the investigation mike america has been in ukraine for 8 years and had its own law enforcement agencies and the prosecutor general changed biden, remind me how the sovereignty of ukraine was melted. uh-huh why didn't they investigate the murder in odessa when the children were burned and the people on the maidan were shot by the citizens of georgia, they say, we are ready to testify. we shot snipers that america did not raise this issue, i liked the other one. vadim, in short, how they cut down trees. in the same place, about us to understand where the bullet came from, you know, right? michael three and it will be clear. she flew from this hotel room of this gutal. or from another honky number and everything will be clear, but they quickly that there are trees here, interesting, yes, interesting, of course, lugansk july of the fourteenth year there was still no russia in donetsk they were shot from

the plane of the lugansk administration, there are children and uh, women died silent on america has not been investigating for 8 years. and what do we do now to liberate ukraine to conduct an investigation, how the americans helped to carry out a coup d'état and other ambassadors of the united states there, how people lived in odessa what happened in the bucha, we will definitely investigate and the tribunal will not die. vladimir nikolaevich sees and does not remember and has never seen. he doesn't know at all. he is not only exclusive. he has all this history. vladimir nikolaevich begins with the reunification with the crimea the whole story. he doesn't see it here. but you start from here, you understand, yes, and the thirteenth year, when they jumped and whoever does not jump is a muscovite. why did they incite international hatred, and why didn't they jump? nobody jumps, that pole. damn, we always have historical claims, so it can be, only in nuremberg guys, nurburg, it can’t be in stalingrad and

we will come to nuremberg only in nuremberg, we will release and condemn not only those who committed, but also those who were an accomplice, the americans were accomplices in committing a crime, it’s normal for germany to declare wars to germany i’m not going to moscow , let’s listen to a conversation with journalists , foreign journalists, which a always also pay attention. they are always in large quantities exactly where they need to be. not where some kind of hostilities can unfold , let's say, there, i don't know in the area journalists in the azov region stood up, for example, yes, there or in the area, well, on the front line somewhere. no , they are there all the time. and where then they actually begin to spin the story with some kind of

war crimes. interesting story. let's listen to the conversation, yes. we are in a beard forest, on the streets, there are no corpses, not at all. i asked if there were violations here illegal killings and everyone says they don't know. i just spoke to a forensic police officer , and he's on my record. said that they had not seen anything of the kind here, there were no executions. they assume that the people killed in the shelling and are under the rubble. i spoke with a french journalist. he saw eight dead from shelling this place, of course, in ruins and much more damaged than bucha, but in terms of the mockery of the execution, there is no evidence. i also spoke to two old ladies and they said that the russian troops treated them politely for food and water in this way. i have no idea what i was talking about prosecutor. it didn't happen. michael, you understand, it was necessary to come up with something like this with a beard, they succeed, but they won’t stop there, they

’ll come up with something. yes sergey please. this , of course, is a question about journalism, how it works now. and in general, can it be considered journalism, because of course, but in theory, this is how it should be normal journalists arrive at the place. they understand everything, but collect it bit by bit and then give out some kind of investigation. and now, after all, such a principle is reversed pyramids, when journalists are already on their way, but there are results, and there are investigations and it is necessary to put together a certain puzzle for this case, that is, they are already told in advance what the essence is, and there, of course, there may be inconsistencies, because it turns out that not is recruited for all this and the puzzle does not add up. what to do with it, huh? a nightmare and moreover, these people, i don’t know from which edition they were not indicated there. yes, first name. yes, well, let's see. and here they are, something like that. here, this is all stated in good faith that i don’t know this

it wasn't. and here is the editor-in-chief. yes, it's printed. i'm not sure you understand, of course, it prints. that's what there was nothing. you understand a little, yes, because everything goes against the current, and it brings down the whole semantic structure. that's it just years ago many years ago. when i first started to come across, here 's a story, i at the beginning, but i just didn’t understand and was surprised by a specific example, i’ll tell you, and since himvale 2004 from all heights, and the georgian army is firing from multiple rocket launchers carnal people sit in basements. well, somewhere there for 30 to 40 minutes some kind of calm, then again some kind of calm again. and at the moment of one of these lulls, so a and i are running through the streets of the city there, we are filming there, how what is happening

and so on there are trenches almost in the center of tskhinvali, and a little to the right there are these big pipes, what are they made of asbestos? yes? or why these pipes are made for sewerage or for do you know the big pipes? yes, they are laying these pipes. hmm it is quite obvious that a sewerage should have been laid there or some kind of repair was going on, and they actually. here in this very trench they are recording the standard on camera, and i stand listening and wondering directly, it turns out that they are on the front line and the russian army along with the ossetian militia. now he is storming a georgian village. they write it down in the tsentrinsky wali and the expectation is that, well, who will pay attention there or start to listen, that is, it's amazing, that is they originally went there in order to film something. it was 2004. but now i'm looking, yes, and now look, almost 20 years have passed. yes

, now, in fact, the fate of this colossal crisis in our relations with the west depends on the information war. and so now there is already a journalist who is standing at the trenches next to the corpses. in fact, in many respects, everything depends on him, he predetermines. i, too, can share a story with you one of these days. i well, it would seem that this is the indian media space, there is very now it's getting interesting. fight for him. this is such a no-man's land, it is neither western nor ours , there are such offensives and also a very popular program. well, like yours, they also sent there, and in the storm. they are investigating the group, and so i turned on the zoom and the host speaks. we are our group, we have the best, these, this, this, you know, the whole country knows them, these are the best reporters. this is where they dug in. russia has committed a crime. and here they are next to the hands. i'm saying, please ask the host. please ask a question did your best reporters see how the russians

killed these people? he got a bit nervous. i say, i will repeat it again, please ask. he told me sergey you are in moscow you do not understand anything, and my people there they have more rights. i say them, so what, what are they there, but they have a different installation, it’s all the same it would seem that they are a meter from this, but some invisible wall separates them, and they will never cross this wall, this red line, because it's a completely different task here, you understand different, therefore quite right, therefore, uh, this is your tskhinval, this is already me, i don’t know squared cubed. there's something to say. that's what's happening now, yes. previously, the group tried to work from both sides in the event of a conflict. you understand, yes, but now on the map they no longer work from two sides. moreover, i can understand why our correspondents do not work on the part of ukraine, because ukraine long before the special military operation many years ago, what they did with

our correspondents. do you remember they captured, they threw grenade launchers at them. they shot at them, they put bags on their heads. did they ask for a ransom or what? they asked there and kadyrov, remember, released the film crew of a star or someone there, that is, they blocked it. the channel itself is even the penetration of film crews into our territory, but it’s good for the french, conditionally for the americans. someone else has a desire to work in the forefront, for example, the russian army to see what is happening from this side. and from the other side you also shoot, and then you broadcast it on the air, there are two reports, but even this desire is not there, because, then there are other tasks. here it is this very tragedy, but at the same time, i constantly hear that we lost some kind of information war. i do not understand at all, in fact, what kind of war? we lost here everyone gives out their information. there is no war here. if more doesn't mean they won it. yes, please, and so on

the information war. we haven't lost any. let's bucha literally the day after how miraculously some corpses were found there, and i remind you that our army left there on the twelfth of march. the chronology of events is right here we display the chronology here and see march 30th. ours is leaving the bush. well, look vitali yes, that's about it. i say this is the same mayor. actually. yes, the next day. you see, he is satisfied, moderately well-fed, even tanned, no panties , they say everything is fine. yes, no dead people anywhere, killed there. no, the second of april comes in proper. ukrainians are starting to hold stripping. there are many, but options for this video and it is such a fairly large chunks and nothing. but the third one, this whole thing appears, t-shirt. that's it, not just one question. just for one question , you can not notice the neatly laid out corpses in the middle of the road for a few days

. you can tell me that the russian language is a fence. today, by god, can these officials talk with such a smile that everything is fine at gucci and you this is the time on the roads neatly scattered corpses. so you can even kind of ethically imagine such a situation, it is impossible. this story. here hacky fairies moreover that the saddest novel what does vitaly say literally the next day all the leading europeans? i’m not even talking about the british tabloids, everything is immediately clear there, they sentenced us without trial, the investigation, without comparing points of view, did not wait for any evidence , headlines, russian murderers of genocide. blood mode. putin destroys the ukrainians all categorically no other opinions, there practically on the headlines, the combinations are very likely, as may

is very, probably not. there it is. yes, remember the case of the notorious hi-like violin, just the british came up with this, maybe, or maybe not , that's why they cling to such a strange one in each of their versions. yes, the wording of the second moment, right now ursov walks and lets. actually a tear on 28,000 different cameras, but no one has it. actually thoughts. yes, what kind of people what are those white bandages? but why is it there, and some of them rise there or raise their hands ? and so on. this is no one, i’ll answer that it was the inhabitants of these territories who wore white armbands, who did not want to conflict with the russian armed forces, who thus showed their peaceful attitude, so that there would be some kind of dialogue and so on, and it was these people who turned out to be according to the ukrainian version. here are the sides shot at these shots, well, the wild inconsistency is the second moment. you know everything has already happened in history. yes technology

very similar a lot now there were analogies in the studio, er, with the yugoslav scenarios. done remember, uh, kostorskoye, the village is a lever. remember what happened there, and in the ninety-ninth year, allegedly 45 albanian civilians killed, the serbian side immediately declared that they were disguised fighters of the uchk yes, well, the militaristic unit that fought with them then the serbs called on all the entire world community and you michael let's take independent investigation. let's bring in different sides. not only nato keyword there were serbs. let's not only nato will just carry out. they were not allowed to do this investigation, but the western partners immediately joined in, and what michael did started bombing yugoslavia , it was the incident in this kostorga village that became simply the main reason. after that , the so-called nato humanitarian intervention also began, we all know very well, yes, friends, what is humanitarian? nato intervention and what did they do? in general? yes, we should and so on. that's nothing

vitaly there was a worse expression of humanitarian bombing. this, of course, was wonderful. now they remembered earlier, but still the fool began a long time ago. yes, it all started with srebrenica, and you noticed. as they now all in unison recalled the names of this basin settlement, they paid attention, but at the same time, again, everyone is silent. sergey is absolutely right that this tribunal has absolutely discredited itself and returning to our conversation with you about, uh, charles del pont. yes, then she wrote a book there memoirs, how am i and the military there crimes or criminals there, i certainly don’t remember for a long time a very curious curious story, and indeed it was also an amazing thing with the same piece of silver 8.000 bass low muslims were killed by the serbs. here it happens this story, which was actually presented to the world through this tribunal and then to all absolutely serbs, and from uh hmm from yugoslavia from the serbian republic.

we all incriminated this whole story. and e karadzic and mladdic to everyone, right? but everyone is silent, everyone is silent, that where did the figure 8.000 come from? i am this i remember listening to yesterday, this question was asked from the first day. where did the figure 8,000 come from, if in fact the bodies of 2,000 people were found again, thousands were missing, but they took and said 8,000, although 2 + 5 turns out to be 7 8, it still doesn’t work, but they said 8,000 these 2,000 dead people, they were neither in one grave in bratskaya there are 2,000 people. no, they were in many graves. i was there, i just remember what it looked like. yes there, but filmed, well, not at that moment, but later, but nevertheless , in the footsteps, because this topic she always stood. yes, they were in many.