we are not at war with ukraine, but we are at war with ukrainianism russia is at war with the ukrainian enemy, our e, this ideology is an ideology that reproduces reproduces people who are ready to hate our country, and they are ready to hate our country not in the way that europeans do, but with weapons in the hands of immediately it is the nazi ideology. well, in this ukrainian ideology. there is just alexander nikolaevich saying that this is not nazism, what is in ukraine, but this is right, i understand your point of view or not, this is some kind of special ideology. not it is certainly a special form of national consciousness. and here it is, i then wanted to return the very beginning, which is at war with ukrainians. as such, we are talking about a war with the ukrainian people, and if mikhail borisovich talks about the need to destroy ukrainians or apologize in one form or another, then we are talking about the

destruction of the ukrainian people, both in a spiritual sense, but because you think that ukrainian people are ukrainian in the sense, because there are no other ukrainians for us, of course. yes actually. here the essence of how to discuss. let's go then. we are going to unwind all this somehow. hmm, let's start from the origins, but not from the historical ones, to this, we will definitely get there and try to explain and figure out how it all arose when this is ukrainianism. and now i mean from the origins in the smallest living citizens of ukraine and let's start, because on them, in this, they are still completely unaware of their age , this is the machine that should grow from them these modern such here are the fighters of this ukrainians. let's look at the first material, let's see in march, the enlightenment of russia studied hundreds of ukrainian school textbooks published since 2013. in 2021,

facts of deliberate distortion of history were found in their manuals, so the authors of the textbooks made stepan bandera and roman shukhevych heroes of the great patriotic war. but russia appears exclusively as an aggressor and occupier, the ukrainian national revolutionaries of the vd organization of ukrainian nationalists pit with the wire of stepan bandera and here is a photograph of stepanov, he is a hero. yes, because he fights with moscow but this was the beginning of a split - this is what they took advantage of, but to the carpet unfortunately. uh, let's just say the institutes, probably, political science analysts of history for children from the western western states of america and britain , brainwashing goes on even in cartoons mary of odessa last month published animated videos about the russian special operation on her website, the main characters. girlfriend neighbors. trusya and marusya are the first kind and peaceful second

militant bully who decided to seize the house carouse, but friends came to the rescue, at the end of the happy ending - the evil drizzle, driven out of the house, broke out of the house and on the right. she really was on a botek cable, in nikon she was afraid of pain for her son, which exposed herself to a call to a guest in her suite. vit returned the view of marusya's bunker, becoming her become one more masterpiece of the ukrainian patriots, a clip about birds to a peppy melody, children joyfully sing about zhov to bad feathered viruses hitting russia so that there are no more muscovites quote. they will look like a bandera and i'll be able to do it until the tsapsky

the head of russophobia is also incited in children's books, especially the writer larisa tries to keep her face down. one of her stories is dedicated to foreface ants, who, under the ukrainian flag, are fighting ants invaders. ne tsoi in the forefront of the fight against the russian language in stores for refusing to communicate in ukrainian. she throws change in the faces of the saleswomen. and even easter cakes infuriate her, the word is so not ukrainian among these ants. there is a neighboring people, beetles, who have long sharpened their teeth on an anthill, envy him and in one perfect moment attack. well, to be honest, i don’t know what to comment so sadly. it would be funny. i just remember that once there was some kind of discussion. in our country, it was probably the

late soviet union, or what? they said that children should be explained that what happens in cartoons does not really happen, cannot be repeated there. e, some. well, somehow the actions of tom and jerry - it was already later. well , formally. what if you fall out of the window, if you climb onto the windowsill and fall out of the window, you you die, you die, they get up like a cartoon character and run something further there. i understand that there are ukrainian children here. they are not just not protected from such things, on the contrary, they are strongly pushing for this such as alexei vladimirovich, what do you say? these are already cockroaches and moreover, cockroaches are felt. they are there for the long haul. uh, you see, the problem is that, indeed, the flashing of the ukrainian population began quite a long time ago, and yet, until the fourteenth year, flashing through textbooks there for the first second there up to the eleventh grade inclusive

through textbooks. e for educational institutions, but somehow it of course, it had some kind of pronounced anti-russian discourse and subtext, but now what is happening is already, that is, uh, when young children of eight years old are gathered in the camp by azov, for example, and cook of them there are young saboteurs , young snipers, a girl sniper, that is, a girl from the age of 8 has already been learning to kill people, and there is no choice that i just kill some abstract enemies. they are preparing specific for specific tsapov specific muscovites specific rune. and we see a lot commercials that are being laid, nevertheless, alexander nikolaevich but still, i would like to understand. eh, why do you think that this is all completely captured all the people who live in ukraine because you are talking about other ukrainians. no, they are all amazed by ukrainians. it 's all the same, that this is some kind of emotional assessment of you. well, there is hardly any kind of sociology, can

confirm this, well, sociology of late, yes, in any case, russian sociological surveys have already shown from my point of view, but the meaning and the value of sociological research. no, it's uh, you know, what a thing, i can't say, in accordance with the theory of human rights and an atomic society , that yes, there are people who do not adhere to such beliefs, there is a government, there is an official ideology. this official ideology is broadcast to the masses. these masses either accept this ideology, as actually happens in most cases, or they do not accept it. and then it happens some kind of events in the elections there are maidans. and so on. that's in the light of what the ukrainian media are now saying and writing. i have reason. to believe that a significant part of society, a large part of society, supports just such an

ideology, when we talk about its groundlessness, then i want to ask only one question. excuse me, they invaded the territory of the russian federation a. is this what arose? now after february 24th. this arose, of course, after the crimea, not earlier. it seems to me the choice of how the ideology emerged. she used to be there in the 19th century arose. maybe we'll talk about it, let's talk about russian content, as it is now customary to say, but it certainly arose, first of all. let's show now. let us while we often have a lot of historical material about how this ukrainianness appeared and at what point it arose because we pretend that we made this big story, i wonder, in fact, what is the conclusion? splashes of ukrainianism on the territory of modern ukraine are always associated with some

kind of instability in our country. in the capital moscow, st. petersburg, or some foreign advent of influence or occupation. let's see the plot. for the first time, ukrainianism as a movement originated at the beginning of the 19th century among the poles who lived outside, these ideas were picked up by the creators of the secret cyril of the methodius brotherhood. one of the main figures of the organization at that time was the st. petersburg historian nikolai kostomar, it was he who in 1861 singled out among the slavs two different ethnic groups of great russians and little russians, and the historian endowed the second with the image of the freedom-loving cossacks. the brotherhood was discovered by the russian authorities, and its leaders were sent into exile. these were people. educated and assimilated the mood of european romanticism and decided for themselves that they are the carriers of this

mission of creation or, in their terminology, naturally awakening. the revival of the ukrainian people, the ukrainian ideology was finally formalized by the historian mikhail grushevsky, who was born in poland , taught in the austro-hungarian lvov and later moved to st. petersburg, the historian renamed the little russians into ukrainians, and he actively promoted the ukrainian statehood and united the supporters of ukrainianism into a political party and demanded autonomy. eighteenth year with the support of the author of the

german troops. a self-proclaimed ukrainian state was created in kiev, the state became hetman, it relied on cooperation with the occupying power, but the state did not happened. this moment even ridiculed mikhail bulgakov with his play turbine days, not a single officer of mine speaks the language of the country, i hear your bright leaves. but i sigh gently. the devil knows how they feed in ukrainian, i think speak russian, i listen. your grace, the next flowering of ukrainian nationalism came during the great patriotic war after the german attack on the soviet union nationalists. again they tried to take power into their own hands.

stepan bandera became one of the main accomplices of the invaders. in 1940, he organized an underground movement and collaborated with nazi germany was preparing for an uprising against the ussr, bandera's political ideas were popular among ukrainian nationalists until the end of the fifties of the xx century, and his ideology formed the basis of modern nationalist movements in ukraine. that's when it is the ideology on which the country exists. i'm just scared and it doesn't change anything. this is the worst fear of the worst, but to say who is not with us. and the one against us who does not agree to live, the way we live, those are unworthy existence, death is like dew on the sun. let it disappear. you see, it's terrible. igor sergeyevich, how fair it is to say that this, in my opinion, divides everything, in general, from the first to the last point, everything that happens there and supports, how fair, say that this is the national identity of

ukrainians. it takes shape and is brought in from somewhere outside, whether it be from st. petersburg grushevsky, who at that moment actually wrote all this, or by the germans who come there. it does not arise on its own. this is some external factor that is introduced depending on historical circumstances. well, firstly, i would like to say about what was said a little earlier , this is the ideology that is instilled in children. they said it was the ideology of the nazis. or eh? call it variations of bandera, but by no means in these situations. i think it is unacceptable to use the term ukrainianism. and that we are at war with ukrainians, because then it is perceived and here i agree with mr. sytin, as a war with ukrainian people. why don't we? why the very name of the majority of the population of ukraine is now ukrainian. and when they tell him that we came to fight with the ukrainian uh-huh it is perceived as we came to fight with him. and we came there to liberate the

ukrainian people from the nation. no. this is how nazism was immediately mikhail borisovich when the author of this wording, no, just tin. well, you know, of course, i do not agree with this, because when we talk about what we have in other ukrainians no, from my point of view, in general, ukrainians are born impossible ukrainian. this is the one who was brought up in this ideology. and uh, you can't. all born ukrainians cannot immediately become nazis by birth who profess separatism among south russians. namely, this is what we are talking about, we are talking about the fact that ukrainianism is such a peculiar, and political project that has developed over the past few centuries, and almost all the enemies of russia, the poles, the germans, participated in this. austrian americans and so on and so on and so forth. we are talking about creating something

an anti-russian ideology that reproduces in a certain territory, which today is called the ukrainian state, people who are ready to fight with russia and there certainly are, in fact. i think that most citizens of ukraine do not at all profess a severe form, ukrainianism. the severe form, the ukrainian one, is practiced only by those who have taken weapons and this is what needs to be addressed. uh. yes, here already now it clearly sounded that a ukrainian is a nazi, you can’t be born a nazi, that’s exactly what they said and follows. so here it is again. yes, that's exactly what you said, now further, what you heard, so say so, heard the majority of our viewers. i heard that one cannot be born, no nazis were said, one cannot be born a ukrainian and

nazis separated by a comma. there, then, it is impossible for a nazi - this is ukraine correctly. this is how some kind of maternal dialectics goes on. no, it does not have all properties. this is correct dialectics further. i mean, like it or not, most of those who? would you like to call little russian self-designation. now we call ourselves ukrainians. and when they are told that ukrainians cannot be born, that we have come here in order to free you from ukrainianness. some are already getting to the point that the main goal is a special military operation. this is the de-ukrainization of ukraine then. what we are striving for, we are striving for the fact that almost the entire population of ukraine, those who feel themselves ukrainians, take up arms ukrainian people from nazism. from the fact that the nazis

call themselves ukrainians from the fact that they call their ideology ukrainianism. this does not mean that it is possible to become an equal sign between a ukrainian and a nazi. that is, you find fault with the terms, to be honest. here, we will still ask the terms, because, to put it mildly, a ukrainian. do we have a presentation by professor alexei miller or what? i studied with him. by the way, here is his favorite riddle, which she asked at lectures, was this. say dear magistrate students. how much ukrainians lived in the second half of the xix century? well, we figured out how many millions there are or how many, and about 200 people, yes, 200 people - these are the people who really considered themselves to be a certain ideology, what they wanted to say with a tar, what they didn’t understand. shishkin is that ukrainianism is an ideology that is ethnic in nature, but its natural development through terrorism. this is an allerhof, which he was now

leading. this is the first genocide of a president. through the great patriotic war and through the current turned into nazism, naturally, absolutely naturally, separatism turns into nazism, the second is ukrainian in itself. uh, this nationalist identity. it is based on historical myths. we need to prove to ourselves that we are a separate people, that we have a separate language, they created it, codified it, turned it into a separate unit, so to speak, and so on, and imposed the population on the organization. we are now then i will stop you. let's just talk about the language. yes, we also have material, let's immediately see about bogdan anatolyevich will continue like this. the man who invented the prototype of the modern ukrainian language is called the poltava nobleman ivan kotlelevskiy at the end of the 18th century. he khokhmur radio transcribed the ancient roman work of the aeneid in the text. the author intentionally distorted the words, which was a kind of ridicule of the illiterate communication of the marginalized at the time of publication. it was perceived exclusively as a satire, the dream of the ukrainian language haunted the writer mikhail starinsky

and we know him primarily from the play for two hares, written in russian writer. so wanted to turn the south russian dialect into a full-fledged language, that he simply began to come up with words for him that are now widely used, for example, mary is a dream, may, everyday life is the future, surplus attractive, they were simply invented by a talented philolod with the titan of ukrainian literature taras. shevchenko, too, today his artistic prose is unambiguously written in russian. but the work of a kabzar in ukrainian, although you look at the drafts, it is clear that in the manuscript the author used russian words, which, when editing changed to some dialect. now they would be called surzhik survival in the 20th century. the ukrainian language is indebted to the bolsheviks. the syntax of the grammar rules and even the names of the parts of speech of the ukrainian language were invented in the twenties of the 20th century, when lazar kaganovich was the secretary of the party cic in ukraine, all this, together with a new stage in

inventing words, was due to forced ukrainization with the destruction of russian schools was done. this is within the framework of the policy of the vkpb, so that the people living in ukraine feel like a separate nation. yes, bogdan tolyatti is here. actually wanted this reference. and by the way, one could notice that mikhail sergeevich grushevsky who invented it. as a matter of fact, the idea of ​​ukraine and which he formed it in this ten-volume dissector. he also graduated, as the academician soviet academy of science is called. yes, the last thing we would like to say is absolutely true. here, a certain stereotypical scheme is automatically used, but the fact is that ukrainianism, as such, as an ideology, it arose, as an ideology of separatism they have already begun to come up with the idea of ​​creating ethnic separateness and features of an ordinary people of some kind in india, in africa, anywhere . eh, he's got an even score. on the contrary, he has his own separate language. something else, he separates and demands statehood. this is

what kuchma once said in his speech. see you with students. we already have ukraine, we need to create ukrainians, finally. i would like to present you with a book that just exposes the entire plast of ukrainian mythology, starting from the tenth century very in detail. of course you can't. only we now. you have your own book called an antidote. this is the experience of russian criticism of antidote mythology. this is the antidote. please, thank you, analyzes all historical mythology in great detail, wrote it in great detail. it was not i who wrote it from kiev, who is forced to hide under a pseudonym. and i don’t know if he is alive now, here galina mikhaleva is performing here, she feels herself, there are no people quite comfortable, we arrested his historian alexander karevin. he disappeared. i don't know maybe he was killed, as olesya buzinov is completely, therefore he feels good. in our story, he offends so much. so let's try. it seems to me that in this discussion it is important to say that there is no history without geography in our context. in any context

, there is no history without geography. well, because there is galicia, which was built by the hungarians. here it is necessary, so to speak, to rank them with what is now, you immediately say, right here, as if the dispute is going on. eh, to this dispute, what do you think, what is ukrainianism? if at all you uh agree to use such a term, of course. yes, listen. since i was born in the soviet union and for me, ukrainianism now is what was in the soviet union and what was called the ukrainian soviet socialist republic, it was the soviet government that determined this territory, returning, yes, to a separate republic , it was the soviet government, namely, the soviet government thanks to the law on crinesization, and so on and so forth , propagated the ukrainian mov ukrainian ideology throughout the entire territory of the entire geography, including

donetsk and luhansk. somehow i didn’t expect much , and so on. well, somehow i did not really enjoy the national ones. uh, the opera and ballet theater, for example, ivanovna, many people in donetsk or in the same odessa, uh, blurred mine to you, alexei gennadievich, everyone said, in general, everyone said ukraine. my ukrainian great-grandmother did not stick. i ’ll tell you now, yes, my great-grandmother said it was still planted with us. and my great-grandmother spoke surzhik and was loved. the saying about grandmothers disappeared, russia about when some kind of horror happened boris moiseev on tv. everything is gone, russia means, and yes, she considered herself to be russia, what to call this ukraine, how to mean listen to her, well, in the ninth century, yes, oleg conquered ukrainian ukrainianism. how e. here are the ideologies that are hostile to us. no, there was not, and she is not, listen, but within the framework of this ukrainianism. there are nazis who

really identify themselves as separate anki russians. they say, we are not russians, but we have the genes of freedom, we go to the maidan because we are not russian and for us the change of power and blah blah blah blah. it's all there, including in ukrainians. well, the ukrainianness of a healthy person is a wonderful ukrainian song, this is after two hares , this is back ukrainian, this is the ukrainianism of a healthy person alekseevich for two hares is written in russian. i understand, yes, but he wrote a historical one, which he was just trying to save. and that it is not ukrainian. eh, kiev is ukraine or not? of course, ukraine of course, poltava is ukraine of course, ukraine is this my ukraine, of course, my part is cities russians are russians? poltava is small. and yes, i feel that we are starting to get confused in terms and

in order to unravel in the answer to this question. i propose to turn to the bearers of this ideology. as they say about themselves. here we have now forgotten one phrase, and in the fourteenth century it was in the fourteenth year it was very common in ukraine, but it was like that they called themselves with knowledge, and the rest were cattle. yes, and well-known ukrainians were very clearly localized on the territory of the former ukraine, moreover, since the end of the 19th century, the followers are absolutely true, and all other residents of ukraine and citizens. even ukraine was a redneck for them, and here we have a subtle transition. we are uh hmm in everyday political science. excuse me. it's jargon to use those terms that are more or less generally recognized when we talk about nazism about the nazi regime, our president says, thank god this is an impossible definition. at some point

ukrainians svidomo ukrainians. that's what they call themselves, not we them what about the feeling of exclusivity on the feeling of being a super- nation, a feeling, uh, of yourself or well, within the framework of the state of ukraine, as it were, a correct pure core, here they are pure ukrainians, and the rest are littered, therefore garbage, that's why they say to people, a little little little objection, because how do i , as i perceive it, they are not over the nation, and they are somehow like that, uh, i can’t say that they always depict victims, but they all have to understand, here they are, the victim already wrote about this exclusivity at home. this is a welcome. yes the poles use it best of all, by the way, the point is very good to use it's just a trick and so, basically, this is what is brought up. this

feeling of exclusivity is written about in textbooks, and in this sense this one hundred percent nazism, uh, which by its nature, uh, has western europe. uh, the french were originally british, and turned into a machine by the germans. in fact, just and uh, exactly. the same exclusivity that is spoken about from the podium that triggers this exclusivity in traces, because it's the same process. this is a feeling that is brought up from childhood. you are clean they are not clean, you are civilized they are. well, yes, and then, if they dug the black sea really from above, because let's valery vavich, i just wanted to say a remark today in the world a and b of western ideologies and in the eastern it is incredibly effective to be a victim, see will smith slaps the hand yes. at the uh oscars

, and he, uh, even though he defended his wife, he still got 10 years out of the academies and chris rock is silent, because the best thing a victim can do is to remain silent and at the same time, this is not only western, the cultural code is also ours and the orthodox cultural code. in our country, as far as i remember, boris and gleb are one of the first, almost the first canonized saints with bastards who accepted sacrificial death, so being in the minority and being a victim is incredibly effective. and maybe in this sense, mechanisms are just good, working historical myths. here i am the only one city ​​about the war. here and so on. uh -huh. yes, we still have her specially military operations. you have to understand somehow. here is how our general theoretical reflections. uh, one way or another they explain the situation with whom i am fighting. hmm, with whom we are fighting, the supreme commander-in-chief, we are fighting, uh, with the nazi i

said where nazism and ukrainianism merge with the slave, if you like, ukrainianism, then the very ukrainianism that is in mariupol. watch a huge number of videos that people said you are rubbish, because we are bright-faced to svetlana, and you are rubbish, the task of a special military operation. and that is why it is called denocification, and not e. ukrainization from the eradication of precisely the nazi core of this ideology. why is it necessary to identify them , find them, arrest them, judge them and hang them, but first within the framework of the earth. he considered himself a nazi. now they can rank you, because under external pressure under external threat. they have something going on twice about why he strongly dislikes indigenous issues. in ukraine, why does he

consider him discriminatory and actually about the nazis, because the russian people, based on the fact that that terror is going on throughout the entire former throughout the former ukraine are recorded by ukrainians, just to make life easier, because when we talk about the fourteenth year and why all of a sudden they all became ukrainians. here you forget. the main thing is what happened. e since the winter of the fourteenth year, everyday terror killing violence. let's pause, because here is the consolidation - this is what is happening. eh, in general, it seems to me that now all over europe if you look at the pictures there they all of them all became ukrainians. let's