and the bastards see that the ukrainian forces are in two boilers. they are pressed to the sea. the latest data indicate that they managed to fight back a little in azov steel, but according to reports, the marines were left without ammunition. the russians say that more than a thousand of them get into captivity, the ukrainian side does not refute this, it can be said that the front is broken and i will be surprised if mariupol is not soon in the hands of russian soldiers, if they can defeat the ukrainians in mariupol they will probably release there half of your strength. at least six or eight thousand soldiers to start advancing in the north, what will we do there, after we have finally crushed all those who are sitting on azov, we will figure it out ourselves, our military will figure it out, but what surprised me in this statement quite recently yesterday we heard mr. johnson make a statement that ukraine will fight to the last ukrainian. and yes, and not only johnson is actually there, who just did not make these statements and suddenly changes in reality. vector

if you noticed that a hmm here here somehow here they are not very good here. here they are not very good. and when it all ends, and maybe it will end quite quickly. what happened, this is the surrender of the marines affects the fact that they abandoned this concept of fighting to the last ukrainian, or nevertheless these plans are preserved. well, i think that johnson still has hope, he thinks that it's not too early yet. yes, because now this is it, and the notorious one is coming, that is, pumping pumps up, and he thinks, uh, he thinks that he will tear aha will there be time for revenge will show, but i wanted about the children. there are two words to treat. yes, of course, it is very touching. eh, sadly sad. uh, scripted episode. i. well , in fairness. if you start to show the children, i think that a would be correct to

show all the children. i mean children and children who suffer from the other side, but because otherwise, but it turns out to be somewhat one-sided. it seems to me, ah, but this is just my impression, maybe you have a different impression, a and two more words. and can i, yes, well, or margarita lets react you saw this un about the injured and dead civilians in ukraine, they do not determine. children, from what sides is this common common, like nothing like that. look in more detail because indicated. how many of these people died in the territory controlled by the apu. look, you will be very surprised. on whose territory from which bombs, and i wanted people to tell, from which bombs you told the same thing in 2008 to the whole world, all of america told that it was russia that was bombing from khinval only a disabled person. so they didn't think well today they do. they

say the same statements that the belgorod region and the bryansk region were shelled by russia itself. well, that is, there is nothing there, nothing changes. yes, they shoot. yes, well, if ukraine is really to blame for the suffering of children, then i have no complaints, but uh, i have doubts, therefore, i think that killing alone may have doubts. both sides are to blame for this conflict. yeah, now about the line, please, let's finish with the children. and you know the story about the children's beach that was bombed with cluster bombs. it is too russia was. and you read 8 years ago with cluster bombs, they bombed a children's beach with precision. ukrainian vsu knows that this is a children's beach. we had to endure this for another 88 years. it was we who started it, we are equally to blame. you read about it you will know. you know such a russian word go nuts. well, more and more everyone knows the same accusations,

so this is the accusation of mikes against russia luhansk. they raised combat aircraft, and they bombed lugansk. you are in the know, right? yes, please tell me there is michael our planes that bomb, kiev or kharkov or well, i don't know dnepropetrovsk, zaporizhzhia vov tell the planes, but there are other means of delivery. wait, there are other means of other means of bombardment. yes, there are aiming means that we are bombing, where they have weapons and now there is also a concentration of troops. god, they got us. i would like to say a few words about the russian language, because margarita started on this topic. i just agree with margarita that this is indeed a rude and stupid mistake. uh, ukrainian authorities uh, that they are not put in russian is the second state language, but they really substituted it from scratch and, well, hmm , and it didn’t cost anything, just to take into account.

how many people in ukraine speak russian , but at the same time, i do not think that this is a reason. i think there is. i think that this is obvious and fixed by the german agreements, donbass, of course, is ukrainian territory. well, ukraine thinks it's ukrainian territory, huh? a foreign state occupied by an armed foreign state is the same as how chechnya was russian territory, of course, this and chechnya had no right, but to declare independence and but to arm and create their own laws, and constitutions and so on, therefore, such an interpretation from the ukrainian side is an interpretation from the ukrainian side. but i'm not inviting you to tell me what they say in kiev this insanity. i have been hearing for 8 years, from all

absolutely instances, kiev, ukrainian, and so on. and i thought you would give me your point of view , and you give me the point of view of ukraine well okay okay okay your point of view okay. here are two short skirts, just about what they saw. this means that, firstly, with regard to prisoners of war , russia is now often accused of war crimes against us president biden twice already. uh, he used the word genocide, addressing this accusation to russia, although later the state department and the security council tried to soften these formulations, but nevertheless the word was uttered and it was already picked up in the media . it is extremely important that right now in relation to these prisoners of war it is emphasized carefully. eh, they all applied. uh, the geneva conventions are all military humanitarian law concerning the rules for the treatment of their prisoners by them. e, we must provide the opportunity to meet with e. hmm

human rights activists. we need to give the opportunity to contact the families to call to say everything is all right with them. and all this must be shown in order to see the real picture that international humanitarian law is military law. uh, humanitarian law is respected even went to what i should see sergeev to see who everyone who has. for and the ears of someone, so to speak, ready to see an objective picture should see it. and this should be strictly observed from my point of view. haven't you seen these shots? you haven’t heard what these prisoners themselves tell you directly, what they are fed, what turns out to them immediately as soon as they left, they provided first aid, and then they took them to the hospital and in the hospital. they lie and nurses are dancing around them. , who already have a large load about round dances. i don’t know, and that doesn’t mean at all that some kind of resort conditions, but here you need to show scrupulous adherence to this military law.

it’s important to show history indestructibly, so we have to show something to someone, so that someone can hypothetically see something somewhere, and we , apparently, are the people who talk about this sergeevich i you you know, i respect you. yeah well, i just can't understand this logic, but do you really believe that those people who, as you say, have eyes and ears, they will see it. they are they will appreciate it and they will say, yes, russia, of course, she is. you see, she is well done, she respects all these conventions on prisoners of war. yes, well done, so therefore we will no longer say that russia is committing war crimes. there is certainly controversy. yes, it's amazing we will return to this one, judging by, in just a few minutes and continue our very interesting conversation with our guests, we will return to the studio in exactly a minute. what is happening on

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program is true. we continue to talk with our guests about the situation in ukraine. one more question, which does not give me rest. here, vladimir vladimirovich, you must explain this to us, because you know, like no one else, how this could happen. a conversation with one of the prisoners was an officer of the political officer, well, sasha already showed him to the zombolic miller, in my opinion, the name konstantin is there, but it doesn’t matter, in general, yes the political officer and and he asks him. what are you, what are you doing? now captured. he says i'm reading a book. he says, and what kind of book is he talking about, a great book says, it's just awesome. i say first time i read such a book, he says, and i am captivated by this story. well, what kind of book is it? you tell, he says, there is about a pilot who was shot down during the war. he's crawling wounded, so you're quite right. yes, and then he says he continued to fly out of the two, but the real person

is called the book. bravo sergei borisovich bravo he is asked by the maurices, or what? does he speak with surprise? what are you, you know vladimir vladimirovich i want to understand. if we allow, that's what we were talking about now rita yes, if it's some kind of youngster, i admit that some educational standards were changed for them, some other books. they were prescribed for reading. yes, and some other heroes were imposed. i understand everything that happens as a person. well, i don’t know a little there, younger than you, a little younger than me, but he doesn’t know, he sees this for the first time in 30 years. everything. it was washed out, 30 years old, toppled the monument. yes, even more. actually. as i remember now, i was in the 1990s, the soviet union was still there. i already walked along the avenue in ternopil stepan bandera yeah, ninetieth year. do you understand

how many decades, how old are you? well , how old i am, well, i was a young grandfather, that is, back in the soviet union, the union still lived in the eighty-ninth year, it was already three years old in three golets years then, well, in ninety how many? 22 22 yes 17 years old, you taught at school, i understand correctly, but here he is younger, at least. he's younger there. no, they watched films, he studied at school, he was advised to watch, i can no longer soviet power, it turns out, look, three three maximum. yes ussr eighty-ninth year in three galician regions. uh, the democrats, the rukhites, won, the rukh was already created then and they immediately started the first. what to do? here , next to bandera avenue, i filmed. somewhere i have photographs of an empty pedestal under a soviet tank, it was immediately removed in the eighty-ninth - nineties and bandera avenue was the first in ternopil

, like this, that is, i was still the soviet union yes, and already all these processes, then everyone began in full force, but in moscow they said how well, how is it democracy? i'm roman roman says the rise of the soviet union and the work for the kgb was to begin in the eighty-eighth year in the nagorno-karabakh recreation area, where this whole story was born and it all started from there. and these are the consequences. let's try to fight again and that's it. the rest were consequences everywhere. you are talking about the composition of the schoolchildren of tskhinval of the eighth year, and the fourth of the fourth city, and i and i were in the besieged tskhinvali in the summer at the beginning of the summer of 1991. the soviet union is still alive and brought a lot of essays by schoolchildren from tskhinvali. how did i spend the winter holidays of the ninety-first, when there began. as a matter of fact, the battles, when there, by the way, took place along stalin street. uh, there were front lines

and so on. that is, uh, i say it again, the soviet union was alive and this generation grew up on minecraft. well, if he is there and calling and so on, it doesn’t matter there or hobnobbed with them. well, they have such an ideologue of azov, yuri mikhalchishin, and from the former people's deputies of svoboda, yes, he is directly his own, firstly, he is a blogger of ladies, popular with a nickname, nakhtegal 88 we why do we understand? why nah-tigali? why 88? yes, er, and he directly wrote, he took out the first edition of the book dorokhovka from the pointing book. you know, here are the books of the lighthouse, e minecraft first edition, and for me it has become a lot. clear. for whom he worked as a personnel officer. the sbu dealt with ideology there, and in azov was in charge of this same one. well, after all, this is a question, maybe we really don’t know, maybe the atmosphere that reigned, for example, in certain places or settlements. she did her job, but

i just talk like a normal person, like the same age as many of these people, who partly lived there in the soviet union, respectively, watched soviet films. we had soviet heroes who told us this. well, here's what they told us. and then all of a sudden, just like that, with a click. wait for a lot of these people, their immediate relatives fought heroically during the great patriotic war, what should happen to a person whose grandfather is a hero of the soviet union and then he starts a small political figure in ukraine as a sector heard vladimir zelensky yes, so is his grandfather. you remember how he remembered him, where he fought because of whom he fought while the election campaign was, and then it turned out he forgot everything, then he came out and said. but what difference does it make, under what monument to sit and after that they began to overthrow, for some reason, soviet monuments and erect monuments to bandera, the term great patriotic war in ukrainian

textbooks disappeared already in the nineties. at best , it was mentioned in brackets by the soviet union, it was called the great patriotic, then we they removed first uh, the term there section uh, ukrainian partizans first there, it means that they introduced kavpak and upa in parallel. and while the descendants went to the monuments on the forge in kiev from above. notice long before all these spices and that's it. so, this is how they created all the friends that we don’t understand something. it's. it's because what you're talking about is probably the main thing in the comers, shall we say, who are just opening the history books. and i'm talking about mature people who know everything very well, but they actually changed, well, in the eighties, when else notice under the soviet union, all these strikes entered from munich, married to that same strike, and this whole brigade that handed the notes to kravchuk, yes, and the most offensive

we are, we are a historian. i first got access to declassified archives of all these bandera cases in the late eighties. i saw the light, that is, many people who came to give these symbols. from the government in exile to kravchuk, they were listed in these documents as nazi collaborators. and now i'm looking the russian defense ministry has published documents. well, just, well, everyone should read and re-read them. this is to whom we read, we read. and why only now we should have these documents in those soviet weapons, in general, it’s also a good question. for example, everything is there today, vladimir vladimirovich, but you know, we never want to offend anyone, that’s exactly, because vladimir vladimirovich, why didn’t we talk about what the magyars did in the voronezh region, it’s exactly, because why didn’t we tell . how latvians and estonians were engaged in these legions of russia

exactly, therefore, why didn’t we tell? that it’s more just you understand that they didn’t go today, and even more so their own, which were declassified documents inside, the fortieth year was occupied. by the nazis of poland, the general government and there is a report. so, there, how the nazis are conducting propaganda for this ukrainian average ukrainian youth. yes, i am restoring against the jews. and polyakov yes, they are satisfied with the readings of the krakow news newspaper. so i'm telling the newspaper, krakow news. main was the editor of this newspaper. eh, mikhailov, it seems. mikhailo khomyak, grandfather of the current vice prime minister, canada's right-hand man, trudeau, e christifreelance. that is, where the roots come from. well, that's all we need to know, back to the prisoners. we conducted a survey. just wanted to understand the mood of the people, but just on the ntv website let's see the results of the question is simple. what to do with

these prisoners? 76% to judge this is what you were talking about there to reveal how what why why why them in accordance? and then, actually, depending from what each of them did. so some decision is made to exchange 23% and let go of 1% - these are wonderful people. these are just amazing people. i want at least one of them look alive, so that they are generally these people or they are some kind of virtual, who these people they are let go. they mixed up the key on the phone, when it's clear to vote, yes, but, but 76% judge and yet. here i have a question nikolai do you agree, by the way, no, where are you here? well, i'm with seventy- six percent, but here you need to give a little explanation. uh, no need to reinvent the wheel, and working with prisoners punishment for a crime was perfectly worked out under comrades stalin in the soviet union. what does this mean, all prisoners are in places of special detention. yes,

they work to find those who committed crimes. uh-huh further, they are judged. this is to carry out investigative actions, since it is not visible like the americans. i don't know, you say to press, probably, in germany they press. i don’t know we have investigative actions, that is, you need to take a person to study his entire biography, they put pressure on ukraine, when a ukrainian official says that we are now going to knock out testimony from a bear-chuk, officially and publicly declare this. and this does not bother anyone, including you, but we did not do it to anyone. what did they do with medvedchuk? well, with his own citizen, he believes that if the bug bear wanted to be on the other side, he would find time to go to the other side. yes, because of this, this whole story about the possible exchange of medvedchuk for 1026 or another number of people. yes, yes,

i believe that this is no way to agree it is forbidden. i believe, even if i disagree three times with my own fatherland and in the condition when people come to me at home, they have the right to fight back and e increased, as we said thomas fassbender, who worked, just recently, e verti, e, who went. uh, just taganrog was talking with various refugees and so on, he says, so my brother went to fight back, that is, he joined the people on azovstal. yes, because for him the formulation of the question, what a suddenly unfolds on my territory, some the special operation did not agree. this needs to be accessed from medvedchuk, to beat out testimony. is it possible, as officially promised by their official ministry of internal affairs, can this be done? i didn't say it. i said, i said that he himself is to blame for the situation in which he is, that he is being beaten, tortured, he is

to blame. i believe he wanted to, if he would, yes, he would have left a long time ago, why is he already guilty right? and the fact that they beat him. that means he got the command. let's do this, knock out evidence, as official, but he unfortunately parts. eh, partly himself eh, achieved this. well, all the time it's just unbelievable leader of the uh positional faction in parliament. it's just incredible. it's kind of unbelievable, but i'm listening, you guys seem smart, both of you. well, a person is being tortured there, it turns out that this is not bad, but he himself is to blame, because he had to predict that they would be tortured and he had to run away somewhere to russia there or somewhere else. well, a man in ukraine did not run away, he

will be a ukrainian citizen in the party. well, how can the party he sits there, he lives there. it turns out i have no words. yes , no one. explain that he was embarrassed by the word to work with prisoners. what does it mean? this means identifying those who committed the crime. here margarita said a very important thing in the summer of the fourteenth year, a ukrainian pilot struck with cluster bombs on the beach where they were swimming. the children place is called zub gres next to donetsk here. if this pilot was shot down somewhere, ended up in a prisoner of war camp, his lists must be identified. everything is there and then it must be judged and in accordance with according to the criminal code of the donetsk people's republic of luhansk or the russian federation, he must be punished, moreover, wait, this is not all a crime, for which the punishment should be very severe and very public, and therefore stalin at one time adopted a special decree, and

the hanging of war criminals. it was all done according to the law. not just caught someone. as it is in ukraine, we did not like you. we shot you. recently, footage showed a wonderful chronicle of kiev in kiev on the maidan yes, that's right. well, what happened there with these very collaborators, the policemen who collaborated with the germans, is important not only collaborators, the germans were hanged there. crime now i also want to say here is the question of captivity. he is very, very important right now, uh, our note liberal wants someone to like the behavior with prisoners, we don’t like anyone, we are humane great russia, therefore we treat prisoners, because we cannot treat them otherwise. this is the first and second. we want ukrainians to give up so that this doesn't happen. senseless brother of murderous mutual annihilation. now the operation will begin to

eliminate the grouping in the donbass, there, according to various estimates, there are 60 dashes of 90,000 people. it is very important to take care in advance so that 20 30 40 thousand, as many as possible, surrender, you need to prepare the leaflet infrastructure, just fill everything up with leaflets. send these marine officers there, who, in an old-fashioned way, through loudspeakers. and you have everything turned off between us. so i agree with you, right? what you need to do is all, but look how strange a thing that also surprises me very much, but exactly on that very day.