it won’t forbid it, you forbid me, please, what kind of people lost 24 million. you in general, and you just said here, we just said here why he was traveling, he is a ukrainian and a member of the political party of ukraine no, i will compare with what this is and you will not shut my throat here . you are not in ukraine, i want to say again when you say, why didn’t the slow-moon leave, he is a ukrainian political figure in his family, with the same success. you will agree to why the jews of germany did not run away with this idea you lay out to blame, this is nazism, which you encourage among ukrainians and which in fact you will support yourself, because everything that europe is doing now is a manifestation of nazism in its purest form russian. that's up to it because he wants to support him that let's all now break into the studio literally in minutes, or rather, in 1 minute and

continue our very interesting and emotional conversation with our guests. we are not at war with ukraine god forbid, not for ukraine, we are at war with a rotten, well- fed, shameless, shameless russia for a new russian writers about russian struggle russia has its own land, it solves its problems on its own land. russia sets itself huge and honest tasks. and we are proud of our country and its best children zakhar are sculpting russian lessons today at 0:55 on ntv this program is our truth we continue to talk with our guests about the situation in ukraine uh-huh i'm very sorry. yes, i understand, yes, what is very interesting in your conversation with felix are such passions. i'm trying to understand. let's try to figure this out. you're

saying it wasn't a systematic approach, right? that i understand correctly that when we see the glorification of people who served in the ss division for years, we see their glorification when we see it at the state level. and that these people are recognized as heroes of the ukrainian state, when we see decisions being made at the state level to rename the streets avenues and call them the names of these people who were officers of the ussr, including when we see the burning of people in odessa when we see the murder of political simply wave wave remember the elderberry and many, many other people just because these

people they were not pro-russian. they were about ukrainian. we knew a lot of olesya and it was about a ukrainian man, but he was generally that he worked for me, in general, he simply did not agree. that 's what i'm talking about, and he said, these are not our heroes. this is absolutely this this is not found by people. and do not make them heroes today in ukraine , they were killed when we see that any person, even in politics, in politics, even in the verkhovna rada, that is, in parliament. anyone who says something something that you don't like. the ukrainian authorities can beat this person, you can remember at the beginning you started with garbage cans with garbage cans such pranks could be beaten, then you can kill you can capture you can torture you can make it so that the person simply does not exist, he disappeared without a trace. and

you can kill right next to the pechersk court in kiev just because there is a suspicion that this person? and them, and there, like, he is pro-russian, although, he was a member of the negotiating team from the ukrainian side when we see over the years continuation of hostilities. against their own citizens on their own territory. and we confirmed that this is the territory of ukraine and said that we do not generally, as they say, do not doubt that these regions are the territory of ukraine, which in fact caused a storm of indignation among the overwhelming majority. get our people involved there. in this problematics, and you call it all a non-systemic approach, a novel. i understand that ukraine is a rather piquant state in terms of ideology, well, compare, uh, this alleged genocide with the fact that the cause of my nation during the second world war and on the outskirts. it's like

building the autobahn, killing millions of people. it didn't happen . may i please explain, what's the difference? and you tell me it's a difference, significant or not, so the difference here is in the number of dead people, but not in principle, you know one day, bernard shaw was having dinner with a lady of the world and asked her, would you give yourself to me for a million pounds. and she said, yes, of course, for a million pounds. he says, and for one there is a penny, she said insultedly. who do you take me for? what did he answer her? for whom it is clear, they just did not agree on the price, the principle in ukraine is the same. it’s just that we didn’t let them destroy millions, but, unfortunately, your people were allowed to do this at one time, including thanks to the policy of episment. i think you know what it is, flourishing in europe before

, in fact, when your people attacked poland, that's all. and so the principle is the same, if for people who do not live in the donbass if the russian state and the russian people stood in the first place, then i absolutely admit that it would be the same with these people, just behind the jews who lived with you. and for the jews who lived in western europe, no one stood behind them, you know, felix, and even when, well, remember, they sent them to america, yes, these people were there on the ship, and they didn’t accept them either. michael famous story, famous famous story. yes, it’s just that no one protected these people and the only country that later protected them is we were, you know felix and it just didn’t work out here, because we were initially behind these people to protect these people. i understand margarita's arguments. i understand too. uh, your

novel nonetheless. uh, we have if after the komatorsk, yes, that is, when it’s just the beginning. eh, like some kind of first. e uprising and there was no powerful russian support. there would not have been a finger boiler, there would not have been 10,000 dead there , and maybe there were victims and surrendered. he brought all his plans to the osk plan on the territory of destroying the war. we generally indiscriminately set fire to each say, look at their papers. what started before the bombing of ukraine's own population of the russian population by planes or the debaltsevo cauldron? of course, yes, who started this, ukraine. if you told felix europe that they would give ukraine a tata and give them a finca and punish her for it and forbid it, there would be no debaltsevo cauldron, and we

would not need to interfere, but we, unlike you, will not fiends from your leadership. and they mean you personally, and we cannot, for the sake of the fact that you live in peace without sanctions and others geopolitical interests just sit and watch and pretend that we cannot see. you can, but we don't have these rag dolls of ours at the touch of a button on the handsets. you could have stopped it, you didn't , and that's why there was a debaltsevo cauldron, and everything that happened next and there will be one more size. you know, it means not a systematic approach. it's good that they remembered olesya elderberry. uh, because today is exactly seven years today is exactly 7 years since the first of the list of peacekeepers was killed. that's 7 years ago , the minister of internal affairs of ukraine is not just there a private person presented a list peacemaker urged everyone to follow it to find these and punish those who are on this list. peacemaker er, on april 15, an opposition deputy kalashnikov was killed quite right.

and the next day tomorrow it will be exactly 7 years since oles' elderberry was killed. most importantly, who killed the law enforcement officers of the same ministry of internal affairs, everyone knows their names, everything is fine. they don't hide it that, uh, they were punished, somehow they were carried out of the courtroom in their arms by the nationalists. then they were given positions that were good in the ukrainian state. everybody they know why, because they are the killers of the enemy of the ukrainian people olesya budiny, what europe was doing at that time i'm not saying that new murders of these same oppositionists went on and so on. eh, closed her eyes to this everyone knows. yes, everyone who killed everyone knows that they are nazis, everyone knows that this is a systematic approach of the ukrainian state. supporting these nazis is not enough to use them as death squads. everyone understands this very well. you are now justifying, in fact, torture against medvedchuk. here imagine yes, you are now being seized there

angela merkel yes, they start torturing her live, because she is there the leader of an opposition political force. and we are talking here, but she knew everything and the whole situation in the world that we are observing today, in which we live, this is all there is, a consequence. just the same system work. i was confused at the beginning of the program. yes, when i ask how it was that these people were reformatted there. this is all a consequence of long and systematic work. that is why everything that happens there. it's 100% well thought out. history in advance set goals, and they were systematically moving towards these goals until we didn’t a actually in and we break their back. by the way, no one from munich has a killer, and there is a serial killer. that's the difference between them, but the fact that a serial killer tries or

reproduces tries to kill all the time all the time, and so there are serial killers in kiev. they started killing people in 2014. uh, they didn’t succeed in the izvara cauldron. they waited and continued to kill with artillery fire, probably, years later there was a debaltsevo cauldron, but again they did not let up. they went on know i know what i remember. we, when they just started behaving like that. we also counted on the fact that they could stop, that they could somehow be reasoned with. do you remember when they hit the first encirclement. they entered our territory by the ukrainian army. remember, they entered our territory. we received them, rendered assistance and fed the wounded and changed their shoes. they anointed them everywhere, where it was necessary , and launched them through another border back to ukrainian territory, bypassing this cauldron. we we thought that we were still dealing with more or less adequate people, and we were wrong. yes, they are

serial killers. and now there are more and more facts that indicate that another serial murder was being prepared and the beginning of a russian special operation. they simply prevented it, they were preparing to break into the donbass, start a massacre there , destroy the republic, destroy the civilian population. here's what they planned. we sat down to go and not say what people who are systematically trying to destroy people are doing. this is despite the military defeats refuse peace negotiations from all signed their documents. these are not serial killers. this is not a systematic work to destroy people. but then what then they started to lead, and they behave like this, because your country. and your felix countries have taken a clearly defined position and are ready to support them. not just in words, but to support arming arming arming arming the last thing they are going to.

here is what they said, what they are going to transfer to ukraine. let's put this list here. here, that the americans are going to deliver there again in the near future already for 800 million. assistance was provided . now the next 800 million. one of the mi-17 helicopters, armored personnel carriers, drones, and a millimeter 150 mm, howitzers, 40,000 shells, went. rvs body armor, various anti-tank systems, optical systems, off-road vehicles, radar stations , armored personnel carriers, and so on, vladimir, i have a question. now this is the music for you, apparently it will be eternal, because we are at the beginning they watched everything for this, when the heroic slovakia on the transferred to them there that only yes from dos-300 to dos 300 they transmitted there, and uh, the poles also transmitted the slovenes. everything was handed over there, all of europe handed something to them. we were silent americans

of course the british, there is a crazy amount of aircraft. you departures. yes, that's all, which means that they are being supplied now, we made a statement about these very deliveries. we bring americans a and other westerners to the understanding that attempts to slow down our special operation will inflict maximum damage to russian contingents by the formation of the donetsk republic the lugansk people's republic will be severely suppressed, we warn that the us-nato transport with weapons, following through the ukrainian territory , is being considered by us. as a legitimate military target , a rather serious statement. in other words, we began to pay attention to this, and we realized that we need to put an end to this. how do you think how to do it? well, i would like to remind you that sergei ryabkov spoke a little earlier about e on about the mercenaries. and then in the west they

did not pay attention to this. well, they thought, well, you never know what to talk about sergei ryabkov. well, literally a day later, the yegorsky training ground was destroyed. uh-huh, i want to note that during the destruction of his excavated palegon, and there a few hours before that ago. he arrived mercenaries arrived mercenaries from a number of states. european and at the same time there were killed wounded, about 500 or 600 people were destroyed there, according to various sources. michael believes it was empty. nobody noticed this, but i want to notice that for some reason after that, and also after several strokes in the world. there are other people. they prepared these mercenaries for combat operations, for some reason they didn’t become mercenaries, but this is probably an accidental coincidence now in terms of what he says means, objectively speaking, of course , these deliveries cannot change the situation on

the front line. i will explain why they cannot fundamentally change the situation. why is it that in the group that is now assembled on the left bank of ukraine, its number is about 140,000 people, out of of which about 60,000 are personnel in the army. so for 100 40.000 for 140.000. they only have about 350 tanks and infantry fighting vehicles. michael what do you think if we add to that what the americans will supply? and also who, considering how many field artillery pieces they have left, how many helicopters and planes they have left, so that you think that the situation will, in principle, change, this is one side, and now the second is that the aroma asked me, because why you will push them, after all , push them so that russia prevents arms supplies. how can these expressions

be put? well, of course, they will not be carried by hand. they only have two shipping methods. this is a railroad. and highway road deliveries can only be credited through the lviv region correctly michael so what are you pushing us to, what we destroyed, railway bridges destroyed the bridges that provide traffic in the lviv region. you call on us to destroy the transport infrastructure of the lviv region, and you consider this an effect on the good-ukrainian people. and this and that the direction through which the main one, then refugees, now there are about five million refugees in europe your actions in the supply of weapons and incitement of war contribute to the fact that in europe there may be a number of refugees three times more than 15 million. and you want to destroy their infrastructure , along which they

can potentially leave for europe. do you want these people to go and die right on this road ? you want there to be a humanitarian catastrophe, but it seems to me that you absolutely know. what is going to be there happen to the ukrainians? they don't even think about it. michael is literally a moment. let's put the question this way. and what the west supplies to ukraine, in addition to weapons, we see, and where is its humanitarian aid, in the territory that kiev now controls, according to the most constrained people , 25 million people live. coming soon to 200 billion dollars and they heard perfectly. we will now know that this is not the same humanitarian aid. ukraine i saw this amount. i saw humanitarian

aid. michael i saw, but there i saw my own publications in ukrainian social networks, what they unpacked for them, what this very one is there. and that she doesn’t have anything close, in fact, that’s all. don't be dry there. in the same place there was some nonsense there was chocolates, that juice and chocolates, when they said that they wanted us to drink tea there was juice tea and chocolates , yes. and i'm talking about something else they unpacked people. yes, and there like stones or something paper. there was this rabid scandal, yes, and they began to figure out who is trading and stealing there, what could be the issue with you of millions of refugees. you know, how many ukrainians have now accepted, yes, 12 people 20 yesterday 20 people, not thousands 22 ° people, yes, vladimir well, yes, you think, yes, maybe there, after all, i don’t know how to go, so the way you correctly said that railways are highways. well this

way. at least we'll demonstrate that we won't allow all this nonsense to be transferred here. uh, the united states of america is pushing us to this in every possible way, exacerbating the problems of ukrainian. people by the way, not only from smart not only from rich americans, but it's rich europeans, humanitarian aid is close to zero. so, what it can lead to is the destruction of the transport infrastructure of ukraine, which will put ukraine on the brink of starvation in large cities. this can lead to mass deaths of the population and we are to blame for this, of course, because thanks to you, the infrastructure there will be destroyed, through which people will not even be able to leave the cities specifically in the city of sumy ukrainian nationalists. they blew up all the bridges. how do you think how food can be delivered there, if there are no roads and people cannot go there, do you

think it will be deducted and what do you think the bridges are being restored. and if we are now forced to destroy the transport procedure of ukraine , who are you, it will not be the fault of the americans or europeans who supply weapons, maybe they are to blame for this and maybe we need to ask them why they are pushing ukraine to the brink of starvation and this hunger maybe come in one. i think it's gone michael, i'll upset you, but advertising will no longer end the program. all thanks to everyone, what i want to say, what you are talking about, in fact, it was known, as they say at the very start, that they wanted to frame ukraine, that they absolutely do not think about what will happen to the ukrainian people. they have been using this country throughout. for so many years in order to annoy us to ruin our lives. they handcuffed this country to us. and this country dragged all the time. wherever we move through them they tried to render pressure on us. now they are just

doing it by leaps and bounds, as for pumping up weapons, of course, they will continue to do this, but it seems to me that we need to come up with something like that so that people do not suffer. and at the same time, so that all these supply channels are blocked for this very technique. i have such technologies. i think that people who are in the general staff know that they need to do this at all. and as for how it all could end, and here no one knows the answer to this question. the president was looking for that there is no need to hurry. we need to work systematically and evenly, systematically, we are working if they began to surrender thousands of marines, and if they began to make incomprehensible some completely crazy statements . i think that's a little bit, we meet exactly in a week in this studio and remember that all participants in our program have their own truth, but we will always get to the bottom of the truth. russia does not live in one day russia lives in

all times at once, therefore we answer, to those who are sometimes on the other side, we did not ask to be released. we tell them nobody liberates anyone russia has its tasks in russia there is no financial aristocracy. it did not take shape in russia , alas, there is no national intelligentsia. it has decomposed in russia there can be only one aristocracy, the military aristocracy. so be it, we are fighting, not from ukraine barefoot and for ukraine, we are howling from a rotten, well-fed, shameless, shameless russia for a new russia

as i see it, voices are heard from the other side, we are not asked us to release from this side other voices are sometimes heard. and what can we offer them to build a normal life here in russia first? many do not believe the new ones, it’s true that no normal life exists otherwise why the united states or france or spain or italy take to the streets and squares in crowds of demonstrations, rallies of hundreds of thousands of people and demand a normal life. because they don't live normal lives. you say sweden switzerland well, guys. russia is not switzerland, it was not and never will be in addition to russia. everything else. there are always

worries turned to the past and to the future russia does not live in one day. russia lives at all times at once, so we answer, those who are on the other side sometimes say, we did not ask us to be released. we tell them nobody releases their tasks from russia. russia has its own land, it solves its problems on its own land, so we answer those who sometimes speak from this side. and what can we offer them first, they say. solve problems. here we offer nothing to anyone and do not confuse people nothing can never be solved anywhere once and for all russia does everything at once yes, with varying success, but it sets itself huge and honest tasks, and we are proud of our country and its best children. nevertheless, we

certainly do not dump the people of ukraine of all the fellow little russian serbs living there. russian greeks from shields. this is our people, this is us, they are the same as we are, and some are even better, if we talk, for example, about the army of donbass, in the 8 years of donetsk , luhansk has formed the most powerful groups that in the last two months, he has been demonstrating the wonders of the martial art of stubbornness, of course. this is the most powerful aid to the russian troops. donetsk luhansk units have a unique military experience. they are extremely motivated. they are after all. all these years they dreamed of going to lvov, this was said in the donbass and calmly from day to day, as a matter of course, in addition to everything else, participation in the confrontation of the donbass war also has a symbolic meaning for us, the russian little russians ukrainians. that is, people who own and who grew up in their ukrainian country and now they are going to

liberate their ukraine having an absolute moral right to do so, but what else is important to know and remember in the army of the dpr and the lpr, hundreds, if not thousands, come from odessa, nikolaev, zaporozhye, kharkov, i met fighters from lviv, of course however, in the militia there were many people from kiev chernihiv, the sum of vinnytsia poltava, the entire geography was represented in the militia. in the foreseeable future , detachments of the people's militia should be created, say, the odessa zaporozhye kharkov nikolaev kherson of course, in other areas, a platoon will first appear, then a company will follow. regiment battalions need to be led by experienced officers who came out of the dpr of the lpr and served for years on the donbass fronts. this will be the strongest mobilizing factor. we have never been shy. rumor to pronounce. the combination of the civil war, speaking of the events in ukraine in the

donbass, these units should be called in honor of the real great ukrainians, little russians, zaporozhye cossacks, contrasting the real real beloved, the great war of symbols is going on. do not forget, that our symbols are a hundred times stronger. are we working with them to the fullest? here is the question of how well agitation and propaganda are staged in russia. do you think the main ones are zelensky’s hostage viktor medvedchuk, who has been trying for 50 days to get a torn-off bank medvich, whose patriot of ukraine is called the hand of the kremlin and putin’s godfather let such and such, allegedly, let such patriot why zelensky so hated afraid of his hostage. so he said, not fear, but revenge is an unambiguously revealing interview of medvedchuk. which he managed to give to new

russian sensations before the kidnapping. he embarked on the path of committing the crimes of a special issue on sunday at 6:00 pm on ntv looking at today's events, you inevitably understand that, for example, stalin, for all we know, but was of the highest level if i may say art manager. wait to swear. let's recall together some of the events and accomplishments of this couple on the eve of the great patriotic war, there were local conflicts in which the soviet union, in one way or another, participated in our country's civil war. in spain from 36 to 30 ninth 66 khasan battles of the thirty-eighth year khalkhin gol of the thirty-ninth year. polish campaign of the same.