absolutely different and the devil knows, maybe the former veterans really have it there, but now their hands are itching. although this, of course, is still more like schizophrenia. i agree with vladimir vladimirovich let's take the first story in this chat, let's see in kiev claims that control over mariupol has not been lost, although all the ukrainian military there are now in the cauldron, the mayor having fled the city. vadim boychenko urges to involve russian prisoners of war in the restoration of mariupol bypassing azov, banned in russia, from which the plant named after ilyich on the canal was cleared khodorkovsky and do declare some success. we are absolutely every day in touch with those units with our azov brothers who are now in mariupol. regarding this operation, some positions have recently been cut off, namely the positions of the marines from the position, uh, which kept from the zoo. uh, in this regard, it was decided to combine the force of the marine corps breakthrough, and now they are already

fighting together and protecting the city in one fist, actively dispersing tales in ukraine and about the lack of soldiers in russian army, allegedly due to disrupted mobilization. ukrainian military experts like oleg zhdanov and bloggers living on western grants are multiplying stories that up to 40% of russian contract soldiers withdrawn from ukraine refuse to return to the war zone. for what they are fired with a special stamp in a military bike, some dubious photo is cited as evidence. but even the former editor-in-chief of echo of moscow alexei venediktov, having reposted the picture, asks a reasonable question. straight to the military the ticket was stamped for their victory, the kiev authorities are trying to issue a voluntary withdrawal of russian troops from the kiev region, according to the deputy head of the ministry of defense of ukraine anna, the painter of russians was withdrawn from kiev during the counteroffensive, the ukrainian military also spins fakes about

the fact that russia allegedly had no weapons left , and therefore we ask it from the allies, despite the fact that in beijing and delhi this has long been denied, the ukrainians continue to lie. china still refused military assistance to russia, that is, russia can no longer count on some help. notice china. china has gone underground, there are still many fakes about the guerrilla war, they say at night ukrainian saboteurs are actively destroying russian soldiers in melitopol and in mariupol, according to the ex-head of the ministry of internal affairs of ukraine gerashchenko, russia provokes hunger and humanitarian aid, allegedly distributes it only in exchange for cleaning the streets kherson and zaporozhye regions are building torture facilities blackmailing teachers stealing money aimed at paying pensions blocking and stealing humanitarian aid bring people to hunger. that is, it turns out that you see how it means that the armed forces of ukraine are gaining there on all fronts

, military victories yes, and it is the territories that control russia and in russia itself, a complete mess of devastation hunger, but for someone bogdan it will probably be so. i'm going to run now . ah, heinrich heinrich goebbels. well, yes, who broadcast up to 45 there, then there is about the same thing. now the unerwaffe miracle weapon will be brought to us . we are winning. even remember in 17 moments of spring. they are sitting there, they are watching, he is solid victories there they are torpedoing, killing, blowing up solid victories and here hitler also waited there until the last, that the army of the wreath would now come up. yes there and so on. these are quite normal standards. uh, samples conscientiously created by propaganda are quite crude, but effective, especially in conditions where there is no alternative and not in vain. there in ukraine they constantly sought control over telegram channels, because this is the only independent internet platform in which people can read something alternative, but here it’s still very

good, as it were, it demonstrates how fake news can be successful, absolutely wild. uh, well, created hmm actually from the point of view. here, on the contrary, we are again returning to death, the more monstrous the lie. quiet hunter. the problem is, we can't deliver any information. we are now returning to the most primitive, simplest carrier of kherson, as far as i understand, it is the topol news that is already working on television, kherson 24 tv channel was launched there, ukrainian tv channels were finally turned off . but all this had to be done from the beginning. the very first days. well, the main thing is what has been done, as far as the veterans are concerned, and sometimes they are veterans, and now they are willing to go to the major of the lpr. now, in my opinion, he is already colonel alexei selivanov, joining the ranks of the police, they are starting to deal with the law and order to establish law and order, because order should be under any government, crime, there should be an ocation and those people who express such a desire instead of joining the donbass groups that will now be actively crushed, they are on their way, the police will be now put things in order. so i don't think that out of all

400,000 veterans, aleksey will run away. i just want to say that the news can be anything. we all understand perfectly well that the art of war is the path of deceit. yes, if close you must do and what is far? what is close and so on, but listen to him, alexei gennadievich quoted him last, not a very good analogy. the publication showed three days ago. the only thing i want to call all of us. ah be. uh, well somewhat restrained, don't, don't to think that we will now throw our hats on everyone, because they can be whatever they want, but i hope that the general staff has analytics and is serious about underestimating the enemy. we will get the same thing that we got the right was not evaluated, because it seems that at the first stage, in some places, we underestimated against, if someone in some places with us, sometimes it is absolutely normal the situation that we got in kharkov i am on a large scale

resistance and the inability to take the city. uh, they had you inquire about everything about it, where here alexey of the city will tell. yes, well, probably something. we won everywhere no defeats. we weren't tactical. we perfectly understood what was waiting for us in kharkov, we were ready for this, kharkov did not come. so what is the link that we got in kharkov if we didn’t enter it so the absence. look here. here, look, we marked it, because there were people who said, yes, we are now all of them there , lord, no one wants professional journalists to separate grains from yes, yes nikolaevich look, we have a problem. uh, it is indicated here, here we are, all citizens of russia, are located on the territory of russia, in principle, we use it. well, probably the same

list of some media source set. yes, we read the telegram channel there, maybe someone reads there , stanislav olechka, in my opinion. i know he follows the ukrainian segment. here, however, even here we have. there are some controversies here. what is the reason we do not trust our media. we are the ministry of defense of the ministry of defense there, i don’t know, how would you explain that we are arguing over such question. uh, while, as if with our own eyes , we see that we have a store going on. here is the trust in the russians. the media has now become stronger, and sociological surveys show this. eh, but we must understand perfectly well that today the world of the press is not only television, a radio newspaper. this, of course, is a giant internet platform in part. it is, uh, blocked, but there are techniques that help to do something, but there is an internet site and which of course,

uh, is the most uh, well, let's say, flammable for uh, citizens who simply go for information. tell me i'll just ask. ah, although, we are here almost constantly saying that we should not do as the other side is doing, maybe we should censor somehow now for this time. generally m-m. this information space is to limit the number of some opportunities for comments to express completely unverified points of view. that is to say, try to neutralize people, as it were. from this negative information, there are already such proposals in state duma detachment of deputies on strict e- censorship, and they are currently being considered. and as far as i know, and in the committee of the laugh, and in other structures, but in my opinion.

we must work more proactively, that is, anticipate everything that may be easy to do, because the direction of thought is clear. here are the guys who are here. an incredible number of fakes are being dumped, on the most painful topics, often, they are insignificant, we must get ahead. here, unfortunately, many state structures of the ministry of defense have now pulled themselves up in this regard. they began to give more information, more substantial and more specific before that. they to more vague information. it seems to me that there should be a very tough position in this regard. you will agree that we are not enough ahead of the curve. well we're all press you know, we used to uh in an agency. uh, russia today held a round table with the participation of maria vladimirovna zakharova as a speaker. we agreed on one thing, that it is impossible to stop fakes, then

there is a space so global, so transparent today and so destroyed the standards, journalism, in general, as such, that fakes will always be all this is needed. here's how to get used to it. it is necessary as a species. yes , covey will always be here. yes, such fakes will always be, they can mutate, they can mount. there are delivery vehicles. maybe, uh , to say something like that, visits can change the subject, themes, and so on. they will always be, and in this sense, you can, uh, only oppose something of your own to this. yes, my big one openness to some questions. uh, saying things more carefully, more aggressive information policy. now, i don't know what it means to say proactive. this is a more aggressive information policy. that is, there, probably, some aspect of action is possible, but it is impossible to eliminate fakes from the information space with an aggressive information

policy. i’ll clarify, this is still how we have examples in the program today. alexey gennadievich told us something about kharkov. how do we know our ministry huh? let's act aggressively with information so that aleksei gennadievich cannot read enough of such sources, i don't know, in social networks to make certain calls for them to ban it immediately. i just know it won't work. e. well, if we talk about the ukrainian experience, then there is an aggressive information policy. it is formed very simply. there should be such a number of information sources that you cannot insert them there. like how i do not know how to tab. yes stone something another, therefore, there is a painter arrestovich those-7 fifths. eh, zhdanov and so on. this is such a flow of all this information here. yes, what did you put in there, that something is simply physically very difficult. yes, in this sense, look. i am telling you about ukrainian. i shoot, i understand, is it worth reproducing? yes, because in this

sense, well, let's, yes, so we have, as it were, if we talk about sources, we have horses. uh, we have a summary, well, by and large yes, further. uh, zakharova zakharova well, this different departments. yes, and by and large further just an interpretation. but they have yes, i will repeat once again some strange experts who wanted to say something to themselves. we need more strange experts. here are the experts in exactly 15 minutes. we approached the balls, the bombing. kharkov were with the word bomber gently strikes at military facilities, people were evacuated from there. what

we did next to kharkov next to kharkov, we destroyed the infrastructure. yes explained did not explain the official explanation. was for going on the territory of ukraine from the first day in order to block there to tie down there, e enemy military groups, so that they do not quickly move, nor to mariupol, never agree. that's what really lacks transparency openness. and intelligibility. the most important thing with all our transparency in this war , everyone understands defeat, when a military report comes out, its people are impossible in the current situation, when there are huge bones of channels, when in human language. i agree conditional

listen to what you do not understand in the statement general kanashenko. he doesn't explain everything. he says tasks are not explanations, it's not yes. it is not his task. quite right. it is not the task of our interpretation that there should be a special person a special body that would collect from me it seems to me, on the contrary. i spoke about this in one of the programs, that we just do not need to reduce the number, as i say, right? well, let's, yes, yes, so i started it and, uh, really. eh, it seems to me that there are already such people. yes, there is a phenomenon such a character as yuri podlyako. yes i only the person who sits analyzes the information brings it together. yes, and very clearly. well , a military man comes out and says, “today we have destroyed it, and he gives a kind of complete picture with the understanding that he is addressing a wide range of people. who, once a day, want to

see something, yes, and this is how we trust him in everything. and now the accusations everyone lives so simply on the trust of yuri podlyako, as a character. he is not the first time we remember him, we give your remark, please. voice to well, nothing new i will say. there are people. uh, professional military who make public accusations. and moreover , not onufrenko, because he does not play with cards, settlements, but yandex.map. uh, podlyaks, because, uh, i listen to him myself. i read ukrainian channels and even try to watch. i'm vaccinated against propaganda. you could say donetskskaya, that's why i watch it too, but podolyako always ends his uh public analysis with assumptions. and what can be the assumption

if, for example, he falls into the ten and this, it is possible to always get into the top ten and say that in such and such a direction. there will most likely be an increase in pressure. he tells me this to whom i'm not interested. no. this is interesting to everyone, just alexander is another matter of war - this is a war to kill online, see. today, in the first part, i spoke about the southern part of our arc. where mine just isn't. come in, search, you won't find it, they're working on it. it's just okay when you tell everything, and then you know about the interpretation. i will give one example. uh, one of one of the speeches. e generalashakov where he says, uh, hmm a few days ago. eh, in my telegram channel it's just here. analyzed , he says obvious things, which means over the past day, uh, i was struck, i don’t remember what exactly 67

places of concentration. ah, the personnel and equipment of the loaded enemy. so what is next. well, by whom, one person would be needed, this is the concentration of personnel. yes, two or three concentrations. this is for three gathered. well, even if 10 is considered a concentration by 67, we multiply this one day by 670 human. we multiply by the number of days, look at zelensky’s numbers, that he still has to tell the address, he does everything right, once again i need a military man who will be in some sense associated with the authorities who will represent the authorities, thereby verifying the official point of view of the state, which makes ukrainian. let's get isolated. yes means less information or more. well, we don't need any extra people. let's see

examples from the other side, of course from the ukrainian side, how describe the situation. we are trying to somehow pr, but to close those military defeats that ukraine has. at the suggestion of the former co-owner of yukos, leonid nevzin, the ukrainian press has been discussing the duck for the third week already, and the public appearances of the minister of defense by sergei shoigu are the most severe heart attack. at the same time, they bypass or call it montage at this time, according to the ukrainian press, with reference to dmail to the editorial office of the security forces, there are supposedly purges, the fugitive ex-deputy of the state duma ilya ponomarev, who lives not in kiev, recorded the ex-assistant among the purged russian president for ukraine vladislav surkov did not specify the reasons behind the walls of the lubyanka, the head of ukrainian intelligence kirill budanov also sent a representative of the people's militia in absentia. dpr of eduard basurin, he answered the decision to kirill budanov. hello can be in a nutshell literally at the beginning of the year orthodox love, judging by what they do.

i think they are no longer orthodox. they probably eat a double with the devils. every colonel in the dpr army has a deuce. the ukrainian edition of unian traces on the map the movement of russian aircraft and noticing six special flights in the direction of murmansk at once, makes an unambiguous conclusion that high-ranking officials are fleeing russia. data of course turned out to be fake. the hackers also attacked the kb sukhoi website, where they posted a fake statement condemning the special operation and leaving one of the leaders abroad. this is a fake hacker attack on the site of the dry premier of the information war against russia and our aircraft industry. we support the president for miserable injections, we will respond with even more shock work. our task is to give the country wings, in addition to this , stories are regularly released on ukrainian television, and the famine in russia of empty shelves in stores and the hype for food, the ukrainian audience is sure that after the departure of the visa

and mastercard, cashless payments completely disappeared in russia , and sugar costs already 200 rubles. for a kilo , the forgotten figure of the humorous genre also uncovered on this account. via skype she took part in the online show the ninety-fifth quarter of the very one where zelensky used to shine. russia is excluded from international sports associations, therefore tomorrow there will be a friendly match between the russian national volleyball team and the russian national swimming team, so that the guys would not sit down to make the negotiations between russia and ukraine in turkey stretch for a few more days, since the russian delegation has not bypassed all the shops in istanbul with each new negotiations with the russian the parties have fewer and fewer requirements, as the country is quickly running out of a4 paper auctions. at the end of the day on the moscow stock exchange, a

centimeter bundle of rubles was given for 1 dollar. we are watched in the kremlin because they want to know the truth stanislav olegch. how do you like ivantsevich? well, fighting with fakes, it’s not necessary, as it were, to bring to the point of absurdity some obviously humorous sketches of lazarev, it means to present them, as which, which we are developing, of course, this is not a fake on her part, but in general, if we talk about fakes, which, of course very weak. this is not a comedy program. if you look, this is written on the fence, it can be different and everything that is written on the fence, if you look at it in its entirety, this is an absolutely propaganda story, where you can joke. you can do it in different ways, including some jokes, there are some unpleasant jokes that are not unacceptable here, i don’t argue. it is with you that in general speaking about fakes ivan sergeevich well, i and you are all spectators present here. we are weak man is weak one of our weaknesses it

is called in english. and in russian it is the desire to confirm one's own. ideas and ideas. that is, we always have the same every day we watch tv, watch our social networks. there is a huge amount of information there, and from this information we unconsciously we choose what is closer to us closer to our point of view, if we believe that russia is wrong in its special military operation, then, accordingly, all the information that is impossible is the situation when you change your point of view under the influence of that information, which is on you, that is, you thought, so to look at something to listen and change has a good effect, and your beliefs are emotionally filled, you know, it’s not just that they brought down some team, although, too, probably for many. uh, big story when it comes to fighting, when it comes to life and death, then all the same you find it difficult to change your point of view. you have already seen that there is trouble here, something is needed in some way,

therefore, unfortunately in this sense. you are not a moment, very important, as people say. we have here automatically, yes, who welcome the special military operation of russia, they said that automatically what is bucha is a fake. people don’t go to war, so, of course, if we see comfort, it’s fake, but it doesn’t happen that they and so we said we decided that it was fakes. they just didn’t look at the calendar, so we are bad guys, and we can’t be such guys, if we are a patriot, no one thinks everything is looking for some one there who will confirm this point of view. yes, the russians come and start cutting everyone. yes, here in kherson they don’t cut anyone, but there they cut everyone in different ways . true, after they left, this happens. yes, i can, a little from my point of view, this is the case that any propaganda it has you understand the target audience, that is, here we are all approximately representatives of the same not

only gender group, but also the age educational group. here, we are one target audience for all of us does not speak. well, there are still a lot of other adult audiences for which there are communication channels. this is all also a complex of a propaganda machine, you understand, and what the work of a supercomputer with big data gives now allows you to practically make an address month. well for hundreds or here's an audience you know what we forget, in my house everyone still watches tv, no tv is where there is no internet, as soon as the internet appears. a completely different thing appears there, that is, a person has it through his search engines, and through his requests it turns out his gender, age, interest, and that's it. the rest is obtained by the target month. and it becomes part of the complex propaganda machine. you see, there is an official point of view that it is defense, and it is beautiful, it gives them what the ministry of defense should give interpreters. there anaprienko podlyako and so on. they are trying to give their point of view, but again, for the same

audience of about the same age and gender, but there are still a lot of channels that we do not close, you know, which is possible when the same e, podlyak says. excuse me. stop the panic in the kursk region, what is he talking about? he says that they were projecting there, but if for a certain target audience, which is along the border, i understand you said there is a floor and there are a lot of channels that we did not close, it must be close. this is normal information work in a war. moreover, this is part of the information war. so, how else can andrey belchary rather support my position that we don’t need more information under these conditions, but on the contrary, less ? i can clearly tell how they work. what tools do they use, what do they rate, and if, uh, the west collectively supplies weapons to make russia hurt more, to to kill the economy in the information space, they have

exactly the same goals now to beat their heads, so that you say here that we all hesitate to drive a wedge between commanders in chief and staff officers, staff officers, soldiers between civilian soldiers. this is their goal. this is the maximum goal attracted by biosciences with millions of budgets, which are spelled out by the department of defense. and now they work professionally. and we must keep the defense of information here. i agree you need to respond to advance. well, how do they force us to reckon with new information all the time, this technology is thought out, but if vanya i react to the effect every time. you're already screwed up. you know what they're getting into. this is when the legitimization of fakes occurs through officials. that's when you need to throw everything at it, they are some kind of small humorous vulgarity or something else, when zelensky speaks, and then he gathered these journalists. and so all the negotiations are over, they kill our women. this is the legitimization of a fake that the russian army kills a woman of children. immediately pick up other politicians and the system of interaction has gone. here are different things. you understand

some household fake. it's not so scary against the need to fight. it is possible to create a system of crowbars and other things, but when the legendization has occurred. you know what's going on very much. it's just that they bring ursula fondylyan a live witness of the barrel and take pictures of them against the background of black bags. sorry nothing. there are these corpses. they waited until he came, so that, as i understand it, it's like an escopali them on a new one a week after that is done, because they have. topic, for example, the german prosecutor's office says it has taken over the authority to investigate the genocide in ukraine povuch. what do you think, the german prosecutor comes there in a boat never in his life. he says, we work only on the basis of official or unofficial sources there and starts quoting bbc cnn everywhere everything is torn up. this was replicated everywhere. everything will be very simple, the court in germany will recognize the army as the executor of the non-executive order. who gave, you know the guilty commander-in-chief, what is coming. again, they are just there for a piece of the army

operation of a special operation. this is an accusation against the country. this is an accusation to putin that they started and are doing a genocide, so fake-fake, discord, when you tell me about kharkov, do you understand? i'll tell you this. i've heard it there now. good? yes, you must announce it. you have to understand every time the goal is to create doubts. this is a war, a real person who supplies automatic tanks and grenades to ukraine. he is exactly the same. damn, exactly the information that should straighten you and me right here, right now, you understand? i said, for me it’s obvious to someone, i’ll answer you, you can in the russian army, according to the germans, you know nato generals there, there is a catastrophe, there isn’t. soldiers all want to run away to get political asylum, somewhere in europe, you know? it's their purpose, it's a tool. this is it, understandably. this is understandable, even to such a donkey as no, you understand. what are you talking about? yes? everything

you say is for a 60 year old audience, so like me most are forty years old. i say, can i make a deal? i'll hear you such words of such donkeys, yes, which cast doubt all of us have grown so much, we have grown so much since the nineties and put it under the template. nobody works. we ourselves believe or not believe. again. what happened to the cruiser, moscow why was it bombed? and why did the helicopters attack belgorod to explain to us that they approached at night? they were not visible, we are like that, but seriously at night and so on. we are told, storm today there is no storm video. not, should someone see side of power tell about what is waiting to form a wardrobe, which i donkey must believe for a long time. yes? no, this one. well, you say stand, so i sat down right away. come on, like two words, let's talk, the general over very simply

says, i have no information there is a war. therefore , sometime later the bathyscaphes will go down and look outwardly there was an explosion or an internal explosion. we can't stop the truth, but the very fact that you're talking all the time. you're creating doubt now, that source. nobody beats them. aleksey is understandable, like no one else. aleksey, pay attention to me, aleksey, please. a couple of years ago, memoirs of a nazi criminal spier, hitler's favorite architect, then minister panda, and so on. and why should i continue now the spire tells such a story in the forty-fourth, at the end, at the beginning of the forty-fifth year, the germans began to understand that somehow before the victory, further and further , they began to pay attention to horoscopes. well, as the agents reported, people are more likely to read at this moment, the minister of propaganda, sergeyevs, he sent to every magazine is german every german magazine.