a million people great job, keep up the good work . the national project science and universities is the development of new revolutionary drugs. and you did not know the national projects. look together we can do it. with our guests, and the situation in ukraine let's start right away with the results of the survey that we conducted on the ntv website let's see. the question was formulated as follows. the kiev regime is ready to fight to the last ukrainian, but the americans are clearly ready, the british called for this from the very beginning. now i want to understand what think directly in kiev itself. here are the results, it doesn't matter. what is kiev ready for? the west will make and 84%, 14%, yes for zelensky it is a matter of survival and 2%, no, reason will prevail and people will want to keep hugo michael yes, but what do you think?

i don't think giving up is an option, is it? ukraine they are fighting. they believe that they are fighting their freedom for the independence of the country. and they, i think deep down, they are well aware that they have to lose something, because, well, it may be up to us to have a program past. mom is there program maximum and they i think that in the depths of their souls, they understand that something is needed, what is better to lose, at least or lose everything, in order to at least bring down the fireplace, because everything stops right . but no. i think that if because if we stop right now, if ukraine is established, but if it stops, then this will definitely be a maximum program. why because on the contrary, because russia feels feelings russia will feel weaker. well, of course, on the contrary exactly, on the contrary, t-shirt. you just don't seem to understand. it's yours that they don't understand. it is necessary to force russia although , yes, the programs to the program are mime, because everything is

sold the phrase the phrase force russia is already yes, this is evidence that they do not understand. what are we made of. they don't understand. what is president putin made of? you don’t understand anything at all. you know what it looks like decent it don't worry. this is very similar to the finnish soviet war of the thirty-ninth fortieth year. that is, the finns are like ukraine , this is a weak little country that is against citizens of a powerfully powerful opponent. and fili did not give up either. they resisted. moreover, it is very important and, uh, no one thought that the finns could resist. yes, of course, in the end they lost, but they lost half a minute, that is, and they did not lose the whole filand, yes, and they had to. the future is to give away the isthmus of korea, it's true, i

shot in march. ahti, sari, remember such a special representative was in yugoslavia and before that he worked as president there in finland and he walked around vyborg and this one sighed heavily all the time. here he walks, there he sighs, he walks and sighs, because the harvest was from vyborg. and at the very beginning we simply suggested. let's change territories, they didn't want to. that's all. and also, if you remembered the finnish war, there was such a lieutenant, and from the finnish special forces somehow they called some kind of deep intelligence there in a cunning way. there is something like a lieutenant, and he made a heroic raid, as they told the entire finnish population. it was a heroic raid on the tals of the red army, and they just did something that here so far. actually, in finland they talk about it with aspiration. i think so, but did they know that here i agree with you, similar to happening in ukraine especially after the ladies

of this hmm episode with the hospital. they cut out our e, the hospital, along with the doctors, the nurses wounded by him, and then our fighters under the command of margelov were brought, in fact, to the bodies of the dead, which were killed by the finns, the heroic finnish deep intelligence scouts, which means they showed the bodies and margelov received an order, and to take revenge, i took revenge and, moreover, took revenge. so never again until the end of the war did the finns have the slightest desire to commit any such actions. and it seems to be very similar. and it looks very similar. yes, please, all of us, well, will the ukrainians fight, and the west - it supports it, and sergey borisovich brought the opinion of even a journalist to washington post ignacios, but this is an eye. here it is in the desert. i carefully read the western and french-speaking press. but also english. in general,

there are now, uh, such moods, that everything is going fine. everything is going according to plan for them, so i ’ll tell you a little now, and our viewers, what kind of information bubble they have, they think that now if we strengthen, but not the armed support for ukraine without direct intervention. they don't think that russia's hypothetical defeat will lead to, uh , a third world war nuclear about it. they won't think. they think that it is necessary now even to reap the ukrainians. in general, in this paradigm. they believe that they are winning. they believe that the ring of encirclement is not by ourselves, neither from the north nor from the south, we will not pass. everything goes according to plan. and you just have to wait for the moment when russia exhales. here is their way of looking at things. maxim, you can ask me a question that's interesting. but you are a russian person, right? and you were. well, when we were sorting out the novel here, i am a rare case of 100% russian. i do not know how to be proud of the question as a russian person, that is, a

person who understands the russian person and the russian soul and russia as such. that's what you think, they can think anything i'm really interested in. i am now without any irony without nothing. i'm really interested in what you think. that's what you think, russia would rather agree to lose and to the rear, or rather, the third world war and, in general, a nuclear war will begin. which is more likely it this is a very good question actually margaret thank you for this question. in general, i'm afraid, i'm not afraid, but that's how i feel the psychology of our leaders, and the most important leader, he is also 100% russian, of course . i think that he does not represent for himself the option of defeat both for his country and for us all and for our children who want more. and to live for my grandchildren, too. therefore, i think that, well, it just wouldn’t have gone wrong, but the environment from the mouth of a person is two two phrases. and you all die, and we'll

go to heaven, and the second thing is, when i'm in russia, that's why i communicate with western diplomats, i say, you understand, you can consider our colossal even criminals there, but, but you must, from a sense of their own preservation of self-preservation, behave in such a way as not to provoke and not to put a stalemate, because russia cannot lose. and if she loses the next stage, there will most likely be a nuclear war. if i say that they need to stop somewhere and agree so that none of the parties feel themselves at the bottom of the bottom and in the first place. there is no other realistic way out for the world to be preserved , except to stop, where, well , some points of interest converge, and we will understand

that we have achieved our goals. and they, too, somehow measure with this, where you need to stop. i believe, what exactly is behind kherson and zaporizhia for example, i want to say that in the west there is, as it were, a third plan. it is built in first. there is a huge hope to repeat the trick of the ninety-first year, that is, to bring the situation as a result of what they consider a stalemate at the front to the fact that there are some forces inside here. they are at first. do you remember how they began to press the oligarchs. they live the paradigm of the nineties, that an oligarch can go into the kremlin to slam his fist on the table and say, yes, yes, yes, yes, this is a bet. yes even friedman tried to explain that this time is already a long time ago, but they still won't. there is a calculation that there is a certain party. so to speak, a betrayal, which can say its own word therefore. it is necessary to put pressure, because as a result of this, such an option is possible, this is the most important dangerous option for us, that is, we are afraid of betrayal, if we call a spade a

spade, but what makes us optimistic, and you notice less and less of these comrades. well, yes, vladimir vladimirovich maxim misheard maxim wrote an information capsule from there. several times i had the feeling that i returned there, at least somehow wash off this capsule, which means that this is a hostile state that has developed a policy from all the stands. they say, we want russia to lose, we will give weapons. we will train the newly recruited people to sit behind these weapons. after all, the army. it will not be enough in ukraine indefinitely to spend mobilization, that is, they publicly say if they do not allocate money for russia to lose, they allocate money in the same way to to go into politics, the information war, in which there is a definite goal to plant in the minds. maxim correctly describes, but they also set this goal precisely in the information war. here the gamer begins completely, and not the analyst, because in this hypertext they speak. no, in short, see the soldiers betray the russians really . rapists are not only badly run in the kremlin. see. now there will be a war between the oligarchs and the kremlin, plus the senior military leaders are also now you

. well, you don’t pull anything at all. and you when you read what you think, well, that's it, chief, everything is gone, but these are inflated billions that are included in the budget of the ministry of defense. this is a non-objective. this war is a real information war. and when you get in there, then you go out, then you think, lord, where is the truth, but in fact their goal is to charge doubts in our goal or in their goal. here they have a very simple goal, russia should lose, based on this we continue negotiations. by the way, we continue with ukraine. no, this is not really a negotiation. we have taken an important step. i am i believe, which we fully support on the table , uh, put uh, a written draft. why got lost? uh, courier remember, uh, this is the most couriers intercepted. uh, uh, how did this story have an interception? the missing letter the missing letter was a wonderful ukrainian story. uh, missing letter. here. uh, to. unfortunately, the courier has not reached kiev yet, but we put the draft treaty on the table. and it is right. why is it rightly

clear that no one will immediately sit down to discuss it, but it is important that here, uh, the battlefield, donbass battle. and here is the negotiating table and on it lies a specific agreement that is waiting. yes , when we move from here to here, and this is an alternative, it should be present. and rightly so, as far as europe is concerned, there are now two camps. uh, the ruling circles of europe are one tough militaristic, moreover. eh, really. uh, the slogan is that there can be no negotiations at all now. first victory on the battlefield is headed by the militaristic camp on one side. uh, our uh, wonderful boris johnson who ready on my own. now he’s already talking about it, as he said, and i even have a wonderful strike system, if anything. i don’t advise anyone, it’s okay, this is nonsense, it’s la-la, yes, and about the crocodile, show me about the crocodile i liked it. show yes johnson's statement was not

seen no, it's going great, of course, a great statement. i don’t understand how ukrainians can easily sit down and come to some kind of agreement with putin how can you negotiate with a crocodile that has grabbed your leg, that’s the difficulty faced by ukrainians. i think it's exactly the opposite. it's not johnson, we have a crocodile. this is what he said from the first day, nothing has begun yet. he said they will be until the last ukrainian. actually call the english bulldog. but what kind of doctor will he be until he has grown up, then, uh, and another character is more surprising for johnson in this organic role of such a milit. eh, a little extravagant, but here is the barrel that leads the diplomacy of europe yes, for some reason he also took this position no negotiations. the solution must be found on the battlefield, that, with what he simply shocked me, but there is still another wonderful person. you

are still surprised, there is still another camp that is not pigeons, not pigeons at all. they are also supporters. uh, some kind of forceful resolution of the conflict, which they understand where to stop in time and this is obviously a completely red line to prevent a local conflict from turning into a european one, and then into a world war among these people suddenly on the last day today literally . e, u us on sunday elections, the decisive round of the french presidential election. e. and here you are speaking this name not to pronounce. otherwise, maxim da macron is his last last statement. uh, tomorrow it is no longer possible to say that he wants to transfer some self-propelled howitzers to ukraine, he said three things, and in his last speech. he said three things. he 's feeling like he's winning. and there is a gap of ten percent. he has it most likely to win. now he has already begun to adjust his position in advance for the future. he says. no, military

solutions, there is no need to insist on this, that only a military solution is wrong. second. it is imperative to maintain a dialogue with the kremlin , it is imperative to maintain, unlike johnson, the name of the main goal is to prevent the third ranks of the war, and moreover, he says, now, if i am elected president, then i will personally resume my efforts and personally go to talk. again, yes, yes. what is it again? i do not see some, so to speak, humor and skepticism and all sorts of things. there were ordinary comments about i i just want to say that compared to extreme rhetoric, when only on the battlefield, only there you need to win at the cost of any blood of any victims. eh, some kind of victory there, but compared to this, there are still some sprouts of realism, eh, and, with which one must work , one must not ignore or ridicule. i'm just imagining what it'll look like, and macron gets up with dee. she'll button up his shirt, he

's on the couch now with his shirt unbuttoned. it means that he will button up his shirt and come to moscow in order to what, in order to return back to paris, call scholz and say, let's talk about the thirty-sixth package of sanctions with you, yes, and announce that we are introducing the thirty-sixth package of sanctions, and in parallel call then to kiev to look for zelensky , that we will fit you now there as far as there, and billions there, i don’t know the euro, any other help. and maybe also self-propelled guns across the polish border. well , the whole story with the macron is absolutely nonsense. never in his life this man speaks, but he forgot he will also say that france is the only one. actually, in europe, who does not depend on russian gas and is ready to give it up right now at this very minute. yes, sergey is talking about what sergey people of different opinions were talking about. and you know, and this is all funny of course because, and this all looks. on the one hand, as an attempt to portray

unity on the other hand. i personally remember long before the special operation. now, for some reason, i was listening to you and remembered that i spoke with one of the european diplomats here. well it doesn't matter from what country, which is now on the list of unfriendly and something like that, or my visa was said, and he is such with such a snort, as he says. well, he says, you understand, we must pretend that we are a european family. well, you understand what kind of family we are, in fact, this is all the same, but the need to gather on our own. you are photographed with smiles in suits, and then anyway, everyone has their own internal agenda of their own internal interests, of course, and look even so to say about but there are energy sources barrel a is barrel you see, that's good, and that's a litmus test, so anyway, it all collapses further. it will be more and more destroyed. yeah, because everyone has their own game anyway, because they claim to be a european family and it needs to be

shown somewhere, but when you are not in front of the cameras, when you are not at a press conference, when you communicate with a journalist or with ether that you trust, when and who knows that he will not say who said it will not quote will not name the country people call a spade a spade. and they really do claim to be a european family. now, further on, if i may, i will respond to these capsule information bubbles . to be honest, i don’t really like this comparison. i constantly hear him bubble capsule, well, any capsule involves a closed system. still. let's not say that we are closed systems, we have an exchange of blows. rather, it is a war of interpretation. and here comes the question. who will win this war interpretation understand? yes, yes, we have a war of interpretation. this is a new word. yes, there is an interpretation war going on. there is one version of our version that we are winning, there is another. what are we losing? well,

here is the first, of course, and where does this version sound that we are losing? ukraine the west is all that ukraine where ukraine says that we lost the word, of course, yes. look, look, i'm reading ukrainian telegram channels. and where do they write that we lost, they write that you will do something with our guys who are there sitting somewhere. you will do what is called the last words. there, they call the biletsky an earthworm, who announced that he would strike at the immortal regiments in mariupol with a dot at yes, well, what, what are we losing? the first time i heard it, there is a lot of transmission there. by the way, our compatriots also perform. they say that there is data for the whole world to people, that is, there is a lot of this in fact. here, and therefore, of course, and everything will be decided on the battlefield. that's because i would say that there is a bowl. our weights and weights, and very soon, maybe

two or three weeks, it will be clear what kind of libra and what cup will outweigh, but now i’m already against it and say these here and ask to continue sergey when i hear, in 2-3 weeks , a week after 2 1/2 hours for 46 minutes. listen to this nonsense. well, we will hoist the banner of victory over the reichstag on may 9 well, this is new idiocy , right, that is, here's how to get the result . why do we mark these lines? okay , i won't state the terms that i have in mind. here see now there is. here, but stop, yes, here, but this one, sealed up here, the senselessness of resistance underground will pass for some time, and we will not actually name it. here, but yes, no in the donbass grouping. after all, it will also become like this , to say so, but in fact they forced it, because, well, it’s all the same to say so, but the process is going on. we are talking to you. about the fact that and so to speak, there are

still some doubts, but look today 20 today is the 21st. yes, that is, but 21. yes, but the special operation is less, 20 22, yes, 22. yes, see number twenty-two. yes, that is, soon the special operation has been going on for less than two months. but during this time, after all, these vices, in which ukraine was born for 8 years, have already been squeezed out. that is, a lot has already been done. let 's talk about it, we're talking about what has not been done. they did n’t do this, they’ve already done a lot, how much blood ukraine squeezed out of itself this muck that it absorbed in 8 years, so i, according to this logic, according to this logic, these vise will continue to unclench, it’s impossible to squeeze them back . not, such a hand does not have such a force that can do this. they will definitely unclench , so we will definitely unclench this vise. i'm about here. european family, yes, i

agree with you here sergey, because the elections are not only macron there, yes, the prime minister has a choice there, i don’t know slovenia yes, there are some elections in slovenia. yes, and now we remember this slovenia with its tanks, right? when were the coronavirus restrictions? the only thing that saved by and large the slovenian economy, it's just necessary for to go and talk with these people who are actually slovenes and live there is that they made a muddy wise decision to allow people with companions to enter their territory. and these people sighed a little, those who worked there in the tourism industry, and in the hotel business, cafes, restaurants, and so on and so on, just recently, russian flags hung all over ljubljana. and people treat us very well, but their prime minister simply cannot stand the most common phrases that they had,

apparently, all at every ashes at the lublin center we meet. every friday in the center of ljubljana. and now he will have these meetings on a regular basis. if he doesn't actually stop going down this very road. here i am just suggesting to you. you can follow the whole story. and there will be more and more of these contradictions of internal contradictions there, but i agree with you. sergei that everything depends on how the situation will look directly? on the battlefield, let's say so, which means here, what is important is what we said, uh, a colleague was talking about these fairy tales now. i just wanted to congratulate the residents of the kherson region on the final unclenching of these vices, which they, at least, fell into, because today the broadcasting of our tv channels resumed in the kherson region. including there will look. i hope our today's program, and i just want to directly address everyone and say, if we can influence something, and the word will still

affect, we will do everything to influence so you don't get it back. here we control what we already control kherson zaporozhye, we cannot give it away, firstly, this is a threat to ourselves, because they threaten our ukraine from there, they are our bridge today, which, remember, we traveled and so much. we also worked to tell the world about this bridge that is going to be blown up. well, not only because of this, because these are our people who are now. only now for the first time they sighed even with incomplete lungs. here let them breathe and those who are from whom it depends. give them a guarantee that they can and will continue to breathe and not live again. here in these vices under you, not smelling the country. but how was it with mandelstam? yes, i have such a question now michael but i have such a question, tell me why we are, and well, these statements of the ticket holder yes, the statement of daniil yes about the crimean bridge of belets

about the immortal regiment. so i remember, and in cancer when this military operation was going on, yes, the americans. well, what they didn’t do, what they didn’t do in order to make it easier for themselves, what i have in apparently, they announced a cash reward on the head of each iraqi leader, depending on his rank. there is most of all for sadama hussein and apparently. it just worked the story. yes, tariqa from ataha is clear ramadan on ji sabriya, minister of foreign affairs, yes for understanding for understanding such an easier one. they released a deck of cards. remember, that is, or do not remember someone's cards, there were small things. it would seem, but you know what an effective measure each missile was, even if it was literate in some place, i don’t i know there in some village. he knew that shows, which means that they will give more for that one, and

the ace is actually saddam hussein and ramadan and there i don’t know for the king there on jessa-brie or aziz’s plates and a little less, but they will also give and this story works . why don't we go down this path? why, for example, we do not announce there any monetary rewards for turchinov for beletsky there, i don’t know there, but for danilov and for parubiy. and why don't we have this conditional deck of cards, does anyone have this answer to this question. come on, the modification must take place, because, for example, the biletsk with the threat that if there is an immortal floor that the point to arrive is terrorism is death. quite right. quite right. we zabo terrorists periodically announced rewards. let's do. it needs to be brought absolutely. why not go this way, it must go through, for example, judicial legal regulations that say exactly if a person is a terrorist in any state all the time says before russia should expand the doctrine

own legal field. when on the territory of a third state, if someone calls for the murder of russian citizens, can russia turn on some kind of its own special interception plan? yes, thank you all. and what i want to say, firstly, it seems to me that we need to come up with something like that, this is about what we just talked about, plus plus we hear endlessly about some kind of millions. uh, allocated there, either euros or dollars are allocated there for armament. we hear constant statements from various heroic countries that they will transfer something to the territory of ukraine it seems to me that here we need to act decisively, we need to make sure that all these tanks, howitzers, are self-propelled . they simply could not be on the territory of ukraine for this. it seems to me that we need to think very carefully and, finally, actually destroy the very infrastructure through which this logistics is carried out, and today in ukraine this is primarily a railway, substations, bridges , junction stations, these are all potential targets - this is

one can always consider, in fact, call military objects, it is necessary to do this. and then transfer all this and delay the operation. in fact, these comrades are unlikely to be able to think about this topic, as far as these endless sanctions are concerned with which they threaten us. it seems to me that this is indeed the 36th or 40th package of these sanctions. yes, and at the same time, but i catch myself thinking that it turns out that we had a lot of all sorts of factories and enterprises. and you and i remember saying, oh, we don’t have this, that, no, another. no, it turns out that there are many factories of enterprises that worked on our territory and now these factories tell us. we will stop other plants for you and leave the third plant. let's stop the fourth one. it seems to me that this is primarily psychological pressure on us, there is no economic effect, especially, but they are trying to exert psychological pressure. therefore, everything should be treated more or less calmly about this issue. we meet in a week in the studio and realized that all participants our program is justified. we always get to the bottom of

truth. the largest ukrainian cities that have become practically megacities were founded and built by the same rulers at about the same time, and most importantly, this was done by a single people ; strong ukrainian atlantes that they built their own cities with their own hands and secretly from the russians, if anyone forgot, in 1922 ukraine became part of the union of soviet socialist republics without kharkov without kherson without odessa without donetsk without lugansk without leo and, of course, without the peninsula, crimea is a question. what are you doing on our land? we can easily answer. it. what are you doing on our land?

the further the russian armed forces move deep into ukraine. the longer the military special operation lasts, the more the internet slips us videos in which calm and polite russian people in beautiful uniforms are surrounded by several irritated, say, women who rush and scream. why did you come to our earth for what it's all for me the answer is obvious. here is the thesis about the ownership of the land. it would be worthwhile to disclose, we will try to do it as objectively as possible. well , yes, politely, we will follow the example of our army, which maintains politeness in conditions that were not human at the time. the president of ukraine petro poroshenko, remember this, ordered to start

preparing commemorative events for the millennium from the death of volodymyr the red, prince of the sun, calling him the creator of the medieval european states of rus' of ukraine through a hyphen. an interesting wording, though it quite calmly roams ukrainian textbooks. i read them sometimes to share the breadth of human fantasies. in fact, the term ukraine originated. half a millennium after the death of prince vladimir the red sun. we are not supporters of the opinion that no ukrainians or little russians or khokhlov ever existed and invented them around 1920. no, that's not true, little ones. they are ukrainians. they are crests. they are in some cases the cossacks operate in almost all russian classical literature of the 19th century. and even from part of the eighteenth as an established sube.