there will be active officers of canada yes turkey yes germany great britain and the united states of america it will be a different political one, but as soon as we take them and even if they have shoulder straps of a foreign legion, and we also saw them for a second as withd-dogs. paris will immediately tell us that they have been retired since the day before yesterday. and that this is already for us it is not important. and then what does it give in general in principle, but we understand by and large that they can be there and even most likely are. and what are they now such that we supply only weapons. yes and you give ukrainians. well, when all these 300 mercenaries will line up and everything that is not so will be a different alignment. this is where the problem is. here's the dude, why these people call our president decides well to solve this request, we take this invoice and there we are not going anywhere, we are not going anywhere, i

explain nowhere at the moment at the moment there is no international law, but there is no international law, it does not work, so let's forget about it and another small remark. i am finishing. here they said why are they bombing with such anger? here are some of our cities, we will say this, because everyone understands perfectly well our yes ours is understandable their own correctly. they always called them separatists. for them. they were always not the ukrainians they did not want. i do not want that territory, which is natural. we will never give the lime to the end. they not only shoot, they blow up everything under the station. it's all true. here, let's see, if you trust that in this hall we will all live when our troops move to the other side of western ukraine see how they will lead and how they will bomb these cities

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mask told me for the anniversary of philip kirkorov tomorrow at 20:15 on ntv this program is our own truth we continue to play with our guests the situation in ukraine yes alexei but they just stretched out their hand i saw, yes, thanks a lot. i have listened attentively to everything that several questions have said here. it seems to me, here, i would

like to give an answer to them. let's go by cities, except for the strategy. why yes they hit like that, because that all the same they never read these cities as their own. well, there are such strategic things. these are our cities. we will never give them up , we will save these people. and this is our business. we are already carrying out a humanitarian mission. it's all clear there. they are talking to us tactically, there are still very simple things, they need to be told that they have pergigi. yes, they need to pretend that they are advancing somewhere. they need to speak. you remember, uh, those rockets were flying in somewhere in kiev on the tv center. see our rockets reach kherson pay attention to telecentre. donetsk is still under fire. look at some border areas of russia are also under our constant pressure. we just don't have enough weapons. tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, by mid-july, we will have weapons that will allow us to launch a counteroffensive. that is, this is a help, for their modern and future propaganda, this needs to be understood. is this so that

the arrestovich and zelensky have something to say? this is an important point, the second point about guterish. i would have attacked him too, to be honest, here sergey borisovich i agree i didn’t attack, but we are with you let's start all the mansions pity him. let's send him a parcel with some sweets. i just do n't give it the meaning that everyone else might give it. i don't think tragedy. i don't think sergei if you will, yes, so i don't think he actually plays the part that we want him to, so we want him to play. maybe this is really the kind of person who heads an organization that no longer works. as they said now , international law does not work correctly, in fact, maybe something can be decided at the council table. security and then among members with the right veta, everything else is stories, this is a handshake. these are pleasant and unpleasant encounters. and no one is, in general, in general, not interested in the grooves. i think that there are still fears that there may be peaceful people there. and i think that there may be similar concerns in our country. i don't rule it out. i'm not saying that

this is so, but i do not rule it out, but because, well , it is so, because we are already at the highest level saying, well, let's be peaceful. pass the humanitarian corridors for peace, because even if there are two or three floors down, yes, in the concreted there everything is very serious. we can still turn it into uh, dust. why i will give a very simple example , almost at the very beginning of a special military operation, a blow was struck. well, let's say so. this is the west of ukraine. you can remember this, there was a special fortification of such a space where they were stored, and even preserved. uh, ukrainian weaponry. there, for the all, this space was created, also in the council of the union and in order to so that it can endure, including a nuclear strike, and so that's a strike. uh, high-precision supersonic. uh, it could not stand our hypersonic weapons. that is, these fortified areas. they formed azovstal, we can destroy. i think that the only thing that makes it possible now for kalina and other nazis, who are now already crying and telling that they, uh, have been fighting

russia there for 64 years. attention, this kalinov said, and the only way for them to stay alive now and weapon. so let's say don't go out to our not to surrender. and this is that they are hiding behind people, all the tactics of today and all the tactics of the nazis, who essentially lead the fso , is that they are hiding behind people everywhere, look at this story with people. she's already leveled up. eh oh yes. assume people as if the international red cross is really. now they will go. there is also a connection with these comrades, there is a connection. here it is, actually exists with these. with the teeth that we sit there, we conduct these negotiations there, but periodically, let's say they go there, and they don't release these people. that's how i understand them. oh, they shouldn't let them out. correctly, they can let someone out, not let someone out, and then i will answer well, but this is a terrorist. good? good. yes, yes, yes, the place of birth. yes, i understand, yes, who worked before the war during i will say, so they

are terrorists, and they will bargain for their own, how will they be? i’m just wondering what the master of all can say, yes, yes, and what the leadership of the international red cross will say and what these comrades in kiev will say if and these go until they say the humanitarian corridor itself, but they won’t let people go, because, well, why would they let people go to these azov people there is no point. otherwise, they're just their just talking very much. it’s just that we opened humanitarian corridors, about which i learned at a meeting with the president, wrote down this notebook after for this, we were told from the other side, vereshchak, in my opinion, the name of this wonderful woman in quotation marks, that russia does not open humanitarian corridors, the red cross will come obs. no, the osce will no longer come to someone from the un and not somewhere if they go, someone will start shooting at them. after that they will say. it is russian. look what they are doing will work, it's easy to provoke, it can be

of any level, in fact, i would be very much afraid of this. and when they said, why did n’t you butyrish go to donetsk? i would be afraid of that too, he’s going to donetsk or somewhere in the war zone, he is killed by a ukrainian sniper and they say it’s a russian who killed a butyrish uh-huh so we did after that thank god this old man. uh, i talked to the presidents and went yes, i went. i am by the way, i admit such a subterfuge. yes, i let go of the meanness of such a side, yes, alexei valeevich. and if we still take these conditional canadian generals who disappeared suffering, you won’t understand there when yes, some kind of french there. from the foreign legion, whose epaulets we observed more than 700 people on this list, there and from belarus from australia from israel from britain there from georgia and so on we saw in this list. come on, let's say we took them, it turned out that the acting officers, for example, are not mercenaries, what's next about roman so in this is the whole point. remember what

us president bush sr. said no more america never loses. hmm, that's the commandment of the modern world. so clinton is the american army, invincible, that's the commandment of the modern world. so spoke sling-top, assistant undersecretary of state and guest secretary christopher. everyone can fight each other to fight, the american came, the outcome is obvious, and suddenly it turns out that the generals of the west are being led as prisoners and the whole world sees them, too, can be beaten. well, that is images. yes of course, here they are what are they afraid of. they are also victorious, and not they can also be defeated, like any other army. this is what they consider dangerous for themselves, so that the whole world thinks, while du sees how they famously bombed afghanistan iraq yugoslavia. yes, many thought it was better with them not related to this, many see that

they bombed bombed and cancer for some time it was robbed for some time they were there, and then they left there today. iraq - this is absolutely not their territory, not to say that it was recently observed in afghanistan also not theirs territory. they always had a way out. they could always tell, and we ourselves left. and we ourselves wanted to and have not found cancer. and when there is a prisoner, it's different. yep, this is a real smash. now you can about now now now, probably, ha, well here. little nuance that they should come out with a white flag? that's where you're absolutely right, it's a humiliation they should come out with a white flag. and if they don’t come out, and if they don’t come out, and as alexei says, we just once and not from azov began to lose everything, of course such. are we going to dig them out, or what? if you are shown to the world, this is also a rout. uh-huh

, now roman about the ukrainian strategy , i see everyone here, there are three more points in this strategy, in addition to revenge, firstly, this is a nasty warning to the rest of the cities and regions of ukraine if for some reason you turned off the water to the crimeans to show others, if you dare to go on the way, uh, towards russia, we will turn your life into hell. think, look, the second is the nato strategy of an image strike against our armed forces. look what the americans and the british are shouting about. ha-ha 2 months after the start of the russian operation, they are us ukraine is shelling, donetsk ukraine is shelling kherson what kind of weak then does russia have an army, if after 2 months ukraine can still do it, it means trumpeting inside nato, give more weapons, let's even more that's

all, but the planes are correct pvp 2016, what can all this lead to aleksey valeevich? i'm afraid no no. they have confidence that e russia will go to someone for the second khasavyurt charter. they want this on the basis. on what basis do they think with certainty? what is their strength? and what is their weakness? they think linearly, they think how, but russia has moved away, it has moved away. eh? 2 months ago , the russians were standing near kiev, now the ukrainians are shelling the territory of russia, which means that this is a failure. so we continue the pressure, we continue the pressure, this is clearly a failure. i want to say that you prove it for a long time, which becomes clear that, of course, this will not be called luck. so, we will continue on. once they suffer somewhere

will change the situation. yes, you need to lower the pressure. like this. yes, i understand, i understand, yes it means that, of course, they certainly have their own ideas and they are trying to implement these considerations. they are very cynical in the end, many times already. they were voiced as a struggle to the last ukrainian. and by the way, their cynicism does not go, even to no comparison with the cynicism of those who are sitting, uh, in kiev, leading this ukraine because they are just the same guinea pigs who are taking in this experiment participation, but if they are personally, then that people from and whom they call themselves presidents, ministers, deputies, and so on. they don't spare him. they do not spare him and are ready for these roles as far as shelling is concerned. from these cities, everything that has been said can be confirmed, but the most important thing really lies in the fact that they understand that these cities will not return back. so these are not their

cities. these are not their people, by the way, not only in relation to the shelling of cities. they behave like this , they actually create all sorts of obstacles. on the way out of refugees to russia they do not agree with these corridors. don't use hinders and so on and at the same time open the way back, because those who ran over went west. and these people can be saved for them. as a base, as an electorate, as, so to speak, people who can return. as their supporters , those who came to russia read. it 's people cut off, what do they say they say wash? we kidnap these people. well, we stole stole he could. and what else can not, who came to our territory? it turns out that we abducted them , not only that, we abducted children, and that's not all. so we, in addition to the fact that they were kidnapped, were also sent to some part of siberia, as they say, yes, so that they continue to live somewhere there in inhuman conditions, that we

are building concentration camps here so that let's see what the direct a man who was in these concentration camps and this he is his own shit for a second. not really. but aidara nu who cares? let's hear what a former prison i was. battalion. where did people go, where did they go out or then did not go out, as they say, well, i didn’t, yes. the first two weeks were really hell. the first 2 weeks, the interrogations were really thrashing and not fed. here they beat, mocked, and the water gave a small glass. for two of us, a calm commander, he was poisoned here. i ate normally, but he ate, and his cabin began to fill up, and he got passed away. they really put their hands on it. and just like that, right next to the fingers, they started with an ax dreamed of thrashing. here it is, guys. this

is the cell where we were kept. this cell is here, the commander and i were lying dead. here we had no light. here, they went to the toilet under the wall and dug up their heads, the procedural control room here was such a comrade butcher. such a two-meter carcass healthy did not seriously break off people here. in the sense of the word. barbecue met. you know, it's small. right now we have definitely entered such a big friendship passed through the body. you do not know the darkness and the cold rides, honestly, how much it's better to kill people here. so this is the man who survived. michael, but we are to blame for everything, right. because we

provoked all this, michael is right. and this and this, for example, today in my opinion, or yesterday i saw one of the leaders. azov, we must give them their due. yes, they are not even encrypted. they're talking about everything, as a matter of fact. that's right in a straight line, why? because you support the lunar symbols and all the rest are blind, they do n't want to see anything at all. it goes on air and this person says that and we in general, in principle, in pure russian. by the way, in general, in principle, we have never hidden that we have, but the ukrainian correspondent has his own ideology. what is your etiology? we have never said that our main task is to liberate a certain number of kilometers, and there are no ukrainian territories there, and our ideology is the simple ideology of ukrainian nationalism, because we consider ourselves direct, i quote direct direct

successors. ukraine is the most ukrainian nationalists and ukrainian insurgent army. that is, they openly talk about it, but everyone is blind, as if they do not understand at all who they are dealing with. that's what's just amazing novel. i want to answer your question. where does the west get such confidence that i can not tell e to force, because, of course, russia cannot be forced to peace, but russia is pushing peace to a peace agreement. where does such confidence come from that the west, and through the sanction and on the battlefield, uh through, and the delivery of weapons weapons. where does such confidence come from that you can push to influence, but i know how i know, because experience is experience. i want to eat. i just yes, i know where it comes from confidently. this is a classic proxy war. and i think that this will remain with the nato war. i am so confident, because it was from all

sides, but it turned out from which sides a million died in sergei, these are different numbers on both sides. just from all sides, a million 13,000 people, we lost in afghanistan i'm talking about a huge country , a huge one that we controlled this one a huge number died. well, that's not the point. i'm talking about the fact that the west is convinced that it is possible to repeat this experience, avoiding direct conflict, avoiding a third world war. i got it, i got it. i say that there is experience, but i would not actually rewind so far to the side. i won't, you have experience, when you actually remember here in the north caucasus what happened worked a wonderful mission. it was then called not even obse. and when ebs, i called it. yes, and then there was a rebranding. remember yes tim gulman for

blue. you remember this man, the more he is behind these blue gates. you are everywhere exactly the same as now, in fact, you are acting in one bundle, everywhere you called terrorists, but rebels. and here we had a huge number of all sorts of people working there, and the so-called human rights activists who served exactly that very agenda, exactly that very agenda, and that's all. this led. what led to the fact that we signed this same khasavyurt do you have experience in applying pressure? well you just ca n't understand that at first time times have changed, and secondly, the president has a different name and he is trying to explain this to you stupid people and you don’t need to say it. no need. our task will be fulfilled, there is no need to climb here into our garden, because if suddenly something will not show you a little. he tries to explain it to you. you don't understand anything. everyone is just blind now friends. i have a direct connection. and from strasbourg we have vladimir

sergeenko, come on, let us vladimir vladimir , i don’t see you yet. he, can you see me? yes, good afternoon. vladimir sergeenko political scientist journalist writer works in strasbourg ch . hello, yes and vladimir vladimirovich, please tell us what kind of atmosphere i'm just wondering what they are talking about there, what kind of atmosphere? well, you can say the atmosphere is, of course, amazing, in quotation marks. i mean amazing. initially, it seemed to me that there were not enough russian voices. e, strasbourg parliamentary assembly of the council of europe e. here, where is slutsky leonid eduardovich where is pyotr tolstoy, and now, after having been in the hall, i listened to what they say, who speaks as they say, this is the second day already, but i have no more illusions. indeed, it is right that there is no

representative of russia here, and it is right that the conversation is over, because some things are easy to listen to, well, the emotional state is so specific, because imagine speaking to a deputy of the ukrainian delegation. speaks a shrill speech. and then he says. you understand that here denocification looks like the rape of a woman. you understand that women are being raped in front of children. is that also 12 you do you understand what's wrong with these kids? what to lose raped remove cro. glasses and sending them to russia is also denocification, you know, well. yes , vladimir vladimirovich, you can hear me, vladimir vladimirovich and how to work, in general, it makes sense to work with these people, in general, in such moods, there is a feeling that there is not enough information when you talk with representatives of the parliaments of various countries, here in the fields along osa, there is a feeling that people want to at least get out of their bubble. they

understand that this artificial bubble has been created. they understand that information is not enough not what you have on the other side to hear. no. they just want some information to understand that they are in this bubble. and ah. here is the thirst information. she breaks through. eh, and when you start talking about what, in principle, if we talk about human rights, then let's not talk about the fact that they exist only for the elect along one line of conflict. let's just take the territory, for example, the territory of ukraine there in the ninety-first year of the ninety-fifth 2015 2018 and you can not unilaterally consider the violation of human rights only here. let's look everywhere. let's representatives come everywhere and the song is repeated from one side. everyone wants to help. everyone wants to know, they want to do something, but when it comes to voting on a resolution, the majority of votes is echoed by all those who spoke. but the majority of connections, the majority of

vladimir vladimirovich, the majority of these people in general, they froze for the war, the party of the war is more than the party of the measure is less, that is, uh, sanity on level. let's negotiate for peace . let's resort to some diplomatic efforts, but, in principle, he is so triumphant, who asks like, like ukraine, uh, we are defending democracy throughout europe with our bare hands. this is impossible to do. give us more weapons. we will protect you, if in the old days they said, well, now everyone is applause. yes, let's have to supply weapons, uh, but i would say the key and most important factor is when speaking. uh, the ukrainian delegation was 2/3 empty, that is, 30% maximum was deputies. i understand that there were online inclusions, but nevertheless the hall was just empty. this indicates interest in the topic. eh, plus. i think a lot of people don't want to get dirty. just thank you. thank you. and vladimir sergeenko, yes. you know him well. here you are, please, actually

passe. at the same time, the atmosphere seems to be like there are people, uh, who want to get some information, but most of these people don’t even need this information, as far as i understand, they don’t even want the ukrainian side dry. they just really know. what resolution will be the result of being present is not even necessary. here is the paradox of this whole situation. yes there, by the way.