do give us a bigger weapon. we will protect you, if in the old days they said, well, now everyone is under applause yes, let's need to supply weapons, uh, but i would say the key and most important factor is when speaking. uh, the ukrainian delegation. the hall was 2/3 empty, that is, 30% of the maximum was deputies. i understand that there were online inclusions, but nevertheless the hall was just empty. this indicates interest in the topic. eh, plus. i think a lot of people don't want to get dirty. just thank you. thank you. and vladimir sergeenko yes, you know him very well. here you, please, actually passe. and here’s the atmosphere for you, it seems like there are people who want to get some information, but most of these people don’t even need this information, as far as i understand, they don’t even want to listen to the ukrainian side, they just know really. what resolution will be the result of being present is not even necessary, just about the paradox of this whole situation even. what is there in

strasbourg, of course, sits quite, a certain audience. that is, these are people who make a political career and participate in political public life. they understand what atmosphere they are in. well, those who give themselves an account of this, there, of course, there are people who do not understand anything, but the majority. i am sure i understand that in this atmosphere they want to burn up the dense layers of the atmosphere, and to burn in the dense layers of the atmosphere today is to speak from an alternative point of view, to say that not everything will be like that, there will be no political there will be no political career, because the one who is mistaken does not make mistakes with us. if today is the order such a fashion, they, of course, act like that. this, i can say, characterizes the work of many parliaments. we, too, are in such a situation, we have been in such a situation in russia because this is a herd that arises due to the fact that such is an order. this is what is happening in the west. of course, it is connected with that

fundamental miscalculation. it always exists in the west. they believe that they can put the squeeze on. they can achieve. they will ensure that russia trembles, that some kind of internal developments. they put it on they have it on their own. now , if they say they will lose what they used to drink at 5:00 pm files, then this is already a trolley bus. it’s already to lead the comfort zone for at least a short time, then that’s it, this is already a tragedy. listen. we know how they fought even in that same world war ii, how the wonderful french fought. so hater, arriving on the train and seeing. there, the representative of france told the catholicists rightly that they also defeated us, because for the most part they fought just on the other side. this is the honor of a colada will. yes, he said so, then e became an example of this warring france and so on, but they are completely calm for a week. for 2 weeks they surrendered their france

, after that they participated in sending their jews to concentration camps and so on. and then the winners came out. it would be possible not to pay attention, in fact, to this whole story. yes, but you know what the question is. in general, they discussed, in principle, why all these speeches were needed. and all these resolutions of the international criminal tribunal are these war crimes. you understand, what a thing, while half of them, as far as i understand, don’t know anything at all and don’t want to know, but at the same time they all make a political career. it 's wonderful yugoslavia, just less of all this . why are we here today, yes? let's take a break, because yes, we must go to the commercial, we will return to this studio in just a few minutes and continue the conversation with our guests. kiev is certainly about the foundations of russian civilization, which received the right to innovate from the hands of the great novgorod, a russian writer about russian kiev is too

huge. this story of the russian land and the russian spirit is too big for it to take and break off. we owe you to the fallen, so everything will return to normal zakhar arrived russian lessons today at 0.55 on ntv this program is true, we continue to talk with our guests about the situation. in ukraine , several of us are ending in this studio , there is definitely a long-term immunity. for me, at least, it arose against the backdrop of what was happening in yugoslavia and so on. west after all i started with what i started with the fact that in the ninetieth year the right of the nation in general to self-determination cannot be called into question urgently recognize croatia recognize slovenia, and so on, some time has passed serbs in the republic of serbian territory of bosnia and herzegovina wanted their

self-determination to join serbia no , it’s impossible, because they same as part of bosnia hertz, the main territorial integrity. we will bomb, we will pursue, in the end. we agreed on something, then a new stage in the merlinson ballet. next act. this is kosovo right again. nations for self-determination, it didn't matter if it was this serbia or someone else, they were all the time. they got up a deck and all the time the serbs turned out to be a demonized people. i do not argue among the serbs , there were probably war criminals and marauders murderers. but can anyone say that there were fewer croats or muslim women. watch a movie that came out in the west. find at least one film where it is said that the croats are to blame for something, the muslims are not in all feature films, including the serbs - this is exhausted absolutely right. so it is. yes, that's how it is. nikita dried you. i still want to draw your attention once again, but to what was on the building of the

united nations yes, the ukrainian flag and symbol. e forsangle, that is, a wolf hook, a is a symbol of a battalion. azov also this symbol can be found on several battalions that served as part of the ussr at the time. actually world war ii. this is the first. the second, back in 2015, the united states recognized the sign of azov, recognized azov as a neo-nazi terrorist organization, dear michael true or false. i am now talking about the fact that the congressman in the fifteenth year quotes literally called azov disgusting neo-nazis. now they have changed their minds about this basic, including the supply of weapons. now the province is coming to talk to our president. including in the context, the release of not only civilians, dear viewers, please carefully. watch this story. guterras came with a request, apparently, to make sure that everyone who was in azov had

the opportunity along the humanitarian corridor, apparently in third countries, about which the nazis themselves asked were able to pass and indeed. he did not cope with the task in this regard, by the way, a deep bow to guterras, because it was thanks to his assistance and mediation that our president carried out what i think was a brilliant diplomatic maneuver. see. he showed that, firstly, the humanitarian corridors are working, that is, the information blockade of the fact that the russians are not inserting a humanitarian corridor, it has been broken through the guter - this was stated, the second. he said let the civilians come out, but if they will not go out through the mediation of the red cross through the mediation of he is the people who are holding civilians hostage attentively again. look at this meeting, they will be considered the same terrorists as the terrorists of isis, banned in the russian federation. accordingly, what makes guterras attention, he comes to kiev, speaks with president zelensky and zelensky with undisguised irritation, firstly, too. look at his reaction, he is furious because heterosh offers to save civilians first, and

zelensky seems to be against it, because it is necessary that all the nazis leave the territory of azov. therefore, if the implementation of the humanitarian corridor does not take place, then everyone will see it. not only the weakness of the united nations is nothing to worry about, but everyone will see that many institutions of international parliamentarians of high-ranking politicians have covered people who are terrorists because they hold. people in cinderella and the last moment about ah, means criminal court. why is guterras again not objective, because when he arrived in kiev, they started asking him about the trouble, you know that he said that it was necessary to create a commission within the international criminal court on russia's crimes on the territory of ukraine, that is, initially he had a partisan position speaks out declaring that there are only crimes of russia in ukraine, and what crimes ukraine itself does against its own citizens. i'm not talking about citizens of the dpr and so on. he ignores categorically taking into account the fact that the most

international criminal court there is so ineffective that the cases of infringement of citizens and murders in iraq, afghanistan and libya, you know, have not yet been considered, you know, such wording is not a priority. so much for antonio and the united nations. unfortunately, then alexey yes, friends, there is little time. yes, therefore i urge everyone, but briefly, so that everyone has time. to speak out is obvious that the world is wide the amount we are moving things that they have not observed before, which imayer is absolutely groundless. let's tribunal for putin lavrova and so on steimeier. yes, although he must be responsible for ukraine when he signed the agreement and did not fulfill it on the other side. boris johnson says. yes, you can fire at russia, a nuclear state biden, but insulting things cannot be said even to a simple person, but to a leader - this is not an insult, a leader. this is an insult to the whole state that he has elected, and he

does it systematically. and i'll tell you frankly putin at least once said something about biden that was due to his incomprehensible sometimes, but incomprehensible behavior never and i he wishes health correctly, and i wish him health and tell you why i grew up in the village and we also had such people who such gestures as bidens respected them. why we can be like that ourselves, but you know what they did in the village did not allow such people to the gas stove and onuk grandsons, otherwise there will be a tragedy. now for the gutes. i will tell you. you don't have to feel sorry for him. do you know why all the countries that are members of the un pay dues. we taxpayers pay the budget these states. so we demand that you decide to do your duty, and he does his duty. and now back to putin's dialogue and igush. i told you not only as a politician, but also as a good lawyer. a good underline

lawyer, and the minsk agreement resolutions were blessed. yes, and in order to control your secret. and you and your predecessors. why didn't they raise the issue? here's the consequence of the war, and the reasons for this are the failure to comply with the minsk agreements, and i 'll say more. this is the reason for him with the coups article, the second he says it is forbidden to interfere in internal affairs of any country. and we have like a color revolution, so this is not an internal conflict, but external we had 156 senators, deputies , chairmen of parliament in europe on the maidan, what were they doing there? what did nuland, who went with cookies? what right did they have? now, if he raised his questions, then they gave an assessment. you do not have the right to interfere in the internal affairs of ukraine, georgia and other countries alexei why the americans? and they think that they will nasmut, and they have a

problem. i'm just for a few programs, that's what you had said that we won. yes, i'm not kidding, when i say this, i'm not trying to say it, in order to inspire someone, i 'll explain. they underestimated us. a very simple example is such a drain tank of western intelligence agencies . he is called christ yes, an acquaintance, probably, yes , a phrase, and he promised that our missiles would run out. well, about a month ago, the rocket was running out, and they were imposing economic sanctions, imposing all sorts of economic blockades , they think that supporters of that the agency itself, which was developed here. these are agents, they will support them, and they will sweep away the authorities here. these people did not come out; they did not succeed in millions of even thousands of rallies. this is another failure, it seemed to them that in january they would set fire to kazakhstan. and after that, kazakhstan would burn. this will be the second front. they failed to set fire, kazakhstan too. although, there are some number of questions. but we will now put this aside, kazakhstan is now a peaceful state and this is already

good. they lose because they thought that we can't do anything. they treated us with respect. they did it in vain, and therefore, when the president comes out and tells them guys, if suddenly there is a strategic plan danger to our security, we will use the weapons that we have, we will not praise them. we will apply it. so we are in that situation. when i say ah, the united states of america directly does not have such opportunities to defeat us militarily. what we have, that is, it is possible in a certain sense compare the united states of america and militaristic japan before certain events that went down in history, but now they are erased from the memory of the japanese themselves, because the americans tried very hard. they are now number two in the military sense. it's not we who are afraid, they need to be afraid of us. ukraine is not a question at all. this is just a pawn on this big map,

where we play our game, the goal of this game is to make the united states of america turn from the first at least, and into equal a at best i just want to show the result of sergei to a regional power now literally in the results for a second. and the question that we had on the ntv website let's see. the question was formulated as follows. this is in the context of what you were talking about, yes, oleksiy a will prepare a third world war and a question mark 72% the third world war is already underway 18%, yes, for this they are pumping weapons to ukraine and 10%, he says, no, they understand there, that there will be no winners, but still we still have optimists. yes, the connection is from here, how it is said that the statistics of 72% says that the third world war is on. yes, we must agree in germany how many countries has america collected 40 40 countries? that is,

even we believe that it is clean, let the 40 countries that are completed to put it mildly, as long as i speak to us belligerently. yes, speak directly. yes, no matter how we have to. here in this situation they return to that, that's what my father fought for, and he sounded like that with grass. get up a huge country. get up for a fight to the death. yes, with fascist power, the dark fascist arda, cursed by the horde. here is what problem that excuse the expression to us gradually it reaches. and i think that without this, here is what we sang together now, we will not manage sergey borisovich and where are you here? in what group? well, eh, i’m partly, uh, in the first and partly in the second group 72 and 18. come on, look, what sergey alekseevich just said what what alexey and we were talking about, in principle, and in the quarters

this is the opinion of the majority of experts that the situation is degrading before our eyes and at the same time they are pushing the whole world with leaps and bounds, exactly to this scenario, it is impossible to believe in it, but the way it is 40 people on ramstein. but this is an absolutely endless transfer of weapons. a little more. they have already transferred the tanks to the poles. yes, two teams. there you can form from these tanks. yes, it doesn't matter what the difference is, self-propelled artillery mounts are being thrown, and i am silent about small things. in general, they say that they want to supply ballistic missiles so that ukraine has the opportunity to strike at the crimea at least. you saw these statements we see the statement of our own and ukrainian there all these figures podolya

. yes, in parallel with this, the poles for a second are those in which you know sergeevich very well, the poles along with the romanians. something so unkind was conceived by some kind of military group there, there they want to form some kind of units. here you go. yes, you see, yes, data for a second. see it says svr at the bottom the foreign intelligence service of the russian federation, which means that polish troops will enter the western region of ukraine under the slogan of protection against russian aggression, the mission will be carried out without a mandate, the peacekeeping contingent will be deployed where the threat of a collision with the russian federation by the built forces of the russian federation is minimal, and they will gradually seize control over strategic objects in western ukraine and here they are, here they are, here they are, comrades say, well, okay, good poles. if they want, let them do it. just so that there is no nato mandate so that this fifth paragraph does not work. and so, of course, they can do it and

everyone can join them. this is what we are being encouraged to do. what are we going to sergei borevich, well, on this particular plot, the poles categorically officially deny the existence of any thoughts on this subject. i consider it extremely unlikely, well, it is apparently impossible to completely rule it out, but i don’t think that you are the main thing now, but the main thing is that what you mentioned and some. here, too, the experts mentioned. these are two stories which really bring us closer to a real third world war, a direct head -on collision with nato using the entire arsenal of nuclear weapons. this is rammstein and linguist ramstein 40 ministers. uh, the defenses met at the air base, the united states and nato base air base on german soil. what did they decide, they actually formed a coalition coalition in support of the conflict. eh? mm ukraine in this military conflict in support and created a permanent

working body, which once a month will meet during breaks. there will be headquarters will work to coordinate and accelerate the supply of weapons, moreover, modern weapons. which ones, and which question did e answer, the language law has just been adopted by the us congress, and 33 billion dollars have been allocated for e. here is this very program ellend. lisa of them 20 directly military aid 8.5 economic three there humanitarian aid food. it means, uh, that uh, they gave the american president the authority to supply any kind of weapons without restrictions. this is bmp bradley and this is a tank. we understand, yes here, please faster, yes, any types of weapons, these patriot anti-aircraft systems, by the way, and it is including we talked about this before the transfer, including e, these same e multiple launch rocket systems that hit 300 km and make it possible to reach russian

cities. uh, outside of russia what does it mean if all this gets to ukraine if all this is put into action in fact it already means a direct clash, uh between hmm russia and the nato bloc and the only argument that remains in this clash to prevent. which means, uh existential threat as we see a mortal threat. this is really the use of a nuclear arsenal, that is, we are approaching we are approaching a crisis of the caribbean type, to the one that was now the second year of the crisis, when both sides will balance on a border nuclear war. we'll get to that in may, we'll get to this drawing. i see, while i absolutely agree with you, as regards. right now, it’s a second to argue now or now a second, which means that these deliveries, they really can. actually

lead to something bad quality changes the whole picture with this to argue. i don’t think it’s all clear, but at the same time they are doing it in parallel, that biden makes this decision with his right hand with his left hand, he makes a statement that in no case should this whole thing be brought to a nuclear war and it feels like and he does not know what you are doing, he is not afraid of him, he does not realize that he simply did not understand. really, what's going on? or he understood at the beginning, then forgot, but at the same time, this is what it is, yes, parallel. well, let's go, sergey borisovich jumped several steps at once in terms of the possibility of our answers. yes, we have not even seen how the tu-160 works yet. well, just in case, i remind everyone. we have not even seen our bombers, they have not yet seen, that is, we can bring them into this work at any time, we do not introduce them. we deliver high-precision strikes on nodes with specific

vehicles. nodes, not even in terms of composition, on which there is something, but nodes according to you know the farthest in composition we don’t hit, i know, because they hide behind people. that's what i said, it's the only thing that saves me. they cling to the cars, as we hit the knots in the passenger cars. we hit points of weight with concentrated command of the apu, and so on. we work very subtly. this must be understood, in principle, we can change the manner of action , let's say military, we do not do this. for that simple reason the question is, huh? and if tomorrow we allow, and they arrange a provocation. they set a course for this, you see, transnistria well let's say, here, transnistria there is our grouping. yes, there is a warehouse. yes, they would probably be very, very much in favor of taking over. actually these foldings, right? correctly. yes, how should we respond? that is, we must strike, right? don't let. they'll go well at first. and if the poles, together with the romanians, enter the

territory of moldova yes, but they talk about it there, they even write about it in the newspapers. uh-huh officially go into denial, but there experts say about it this map shows us where they have these now the teachings should now rule; they are creating a strike force that should enter. actually, on the territory of western ukraine, as an option, what are we going to do, but the troops of the two countries on western ukraine well, not under a nato mandate, then poles are romanians. here they are on the west doing so. yes, i can't give an answer what we will do specifically. uh-huh and no one can give an answer now and no one can give this answer, except for the general staff. we understand this for sure. yes, we can only assume, in principle, in principle, it is possible consider this for sure and legitimate targets, including, maybe you know me, that we are doing well. what surprises between us, it surprises us so much, as if there is a feeling that we are very much

afraid of the united states of america. dollars, the americans fled recently in afghanistan, they fled from there, they flew away on their planes. they were escaping, they invested billions tens of billions of dollars of weapons that they left there, they invested trillions of money, while they occupied the same afghanistan and that's all friends let's replicas. that is, well, yes konstantinovich then sergey yes alexei valery with replicas of friends. we are afraid of little time, not for ourselves. we are after all. i, at least, have already lived in the world of a man. we are afraid for our country, for our children, for the masses of the population. and that's okay. quite. if we're not afraid, but we're careful, which is the problem, the problem is that the united states and other western countries are behaving so-so in confidence, that we will never apply it to weapons, because they, in turn, will use it, and as a result , it turns out that when we hint at this, when we

show the launch of the sarmat missile, and so on. they seem to be internally calm, that this is nothing more than a demonstration. if we are talking about the fact that we were talking heads just, yes, which were in western newspapers after let the sarmatian, then it demonstrates their calmness. you continue. i say that if, for example, we develop the topic, what is not, we are ready to apply it further, the problem we have is that we frighten not only them, but also our own country. and this is also a problem. we do not want to scare our population with the fact that we will start a nuclear war. i don't give a damn, let's say how they feel about it , we here are bad good about it, right? briefly, please, friends, why do they believe in the new khasavyurt, here is that video about the aidar concentration camp yes, this is evidence, why do they believe as the anglo-saxons argue and about and after the fact that , firstly, you have prisoners soldiers you do not wipe kiev off the face of the earth for this, but you are definitely

weaklings, as we should have done from baghdad. why do they believe in the possibility of striking at russia, and how do they reason, if the vsu strikes and kiev is still standing like this alone, they will be all the more frightened, what is the point of talking about your nuclear weapons if you are afraid to use strategic aviation in ukraine it 's more fun. this is the linear boat. i understand how they have it. i understood this. look at the headlines. so, after launching with e our missiles, then with you putin will use nuclear weapons against anyone. who will interfere in the affairs of ukraine and putin threatens third-party ukraine with lightning strikes mad putin seems to have in mind his six super. uh, weapons, including the deadly sarmat missile dubbed satan 2. well, there's a million of those million. yes, yes, satan is their name, but at the same time, it seems to me, uh, konstantin

fedorovich does not scare anyone. it seems to me that everything is very clear, and the president is normally calm about this, but speaks in simple language, let's hear what the president has to say. let me emphasize once again if someone intends to interfere in the ongoing events from the outside and create a strategic threat for russia that is unacceptable to us. they must know that our response to counter blows. eh, be e lightning fast. we have all the tools for this that no one can boast of now. and we will not brag, we will use them if necessary and i want everyone to know about it all the decisions we have for this check. so in simple terms, all friends. thank you

all time is running out. yes, sergey is left, well, a replica. please, i have half a minute left. let's hope this serves as a stopcock. actually. this is a statement, because because, in fact, and despite the fact that sergei borisovich is right in many respects. let's not forget that the president is biden. he could escalate only being sure that he will win, and he has the november elections on his nose to lose even in this russia in the war. it is to put a chair at all on his future, so he can't afford it, then, yes, and on the future of america, too, he can't be more important than you, it seems to me, yes, the future least, yes, michael 's replica. i think a third world war is unlikely, but oh theoretically. it is possible, at two prices, if russia inflicts a blow on this or that country, we heard that. yes, if russia still decides to use it. weapons i'm almost certain that russia will refrain from doing so after all.

at least. i hope so, yes all of it we hope so, thank you all. we all hope so, but we also wish you would stop pushing us all into this very scenario. because when you try to drive us into a corner with all your actions. and you are cornered. if this were not the case, the president would not have addressed you with this statement. we simply would not raise this topic, but, unfortunately, we are forced to raise this topic, because look what you are doing, you are creating blocks there, you are already ready to transfer your own forces to the territory of ukraine and then you will tell fairy tales that they are not related to nato, but they will somehow pose a threat to us, and we will be forced to actually respond. and i really want to really hope that they still heard and understood there, but for some reason i doubt it, because i see it in parallel. i say all these actions and i see statements. the example of the same johnson can be treated differently, but it is he who heads

the british government and he makes a statement that they can easily use the same british nuclear potential there, if without any actual approval of some bloc and everything else there. yes, if something suddenly happens to them, but it will show, here's how how to react to everything, but let's hope that all this will not happen, but it seems to me that those of our guests who said that we it should be tougher and more persistent, in my opinion, you were yes, alexei valerievich yes, indeed, but if i don’t understand it, i don’t understand it, i don’t actually understand the words they understand some gestures, they don't understand some initiatives that we show there. well , then let's demonstrate to them with certain actions if they continue to strike at our territory, and then they must understand that for every one such strike, 10 retaliation strikes will arrive, and then let's go this one. dear, and then maybe we'll see how.