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thousands of tanks were to be involved in this battle in a nutshell about the purpose of the battle was said, the next to impose the will of the west on the ussr in april forty- five, when churchill sent friendly telegrams to stalin and publicly supported the actions of the red army and his wife was touring the soviet union british intelligence services . they actively developed a detailed plan for the invasion , it was planned to throw on berlin in order to push the red army out of eastern europe, even after the defeat of nazi germany, the soviet the army remained stronger than the european 264 division against 103, therefore, churchill was ready to call even former enemies of the ss and the wehrmacht in the christmas tree as allies. he raises a toast to stalin to your health, the most precious thing for us. ah. we trust you, we hope that you trust us with this hypocrisy duplicity, when you need a provocation, that's still the same insidious. the internal political
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crisis in britain thwarted churchill's government suddenly collapsed, and in the early elections his party lost in addition to the success of the red army victorious nazism. i was very happy with the western public. here is a fragment of an article by time magazine , never since the arrival of the red army on the balconies, the allies have shown such stormy gratitude and respect for the ussr as after the invasion of its army into germany, and it was not only a military feat in terms of the scale of power and achievements that could not be compared with this one allied company in the entire history of world war ii, the world could not stop admiring the artificial combination of diplomacy and military power, nonetheless. politician's idea found serious response from western military leaders and experts. so british stories jonathan walker in his book, published in 2016. he shares the opinion that in the event of this operation, an american nuclear strike would have come to the soviet
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union and not to japan, the american general of that time, georgeton, actively called for the destruction of the russian gates. so alexander nikolaevich, i looked at your interview before your interview, you are talking about it, so since the unthinkable operation was just a plan, you need to remember that it did not materialize if if they really wanted to do it. this could be done easily. that is, as if, if this was not done, then there is no point in discussing it. or am i somehow wrong to discuss you, purely historically, something always makes sense, but here and then explain to me how, uh, i should understand this discussion process. i want to come to some conclusion based on this discussion. i can understand something about today's politicians, but today's this country, which developed there 77 years ago history. well, understand, you can only the most general things about the fact that britain and the united states always
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adhere to the principle of the balance of power, well, first of all in europe, but in general, then, respectively, uh, at the end of world war ii. uh, it was said that this balance of power was very strongly disturbed, and not only that, in favor of the soviet union, it was obvious to everyone that the soviet union would build a military-eastern one in the east of europe and its socialist system could lead to some kind of immediate threat most great britain on the risk of a military attack by the soviet union on the moon is the wrong approach. what does the threat to the uk itself mean? because if there is no such threat, then there is no need to develop a response. i'm talking about just the balance of power in great britain, there is a violation of the balance in europe , and about the violation of the ratios, you correctly showed here that the balance of forces was far away. i use an ally like this, respectively, this
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balance of power was an intolerable situation. this is the first. the second means, uh, the violation of uh, the balance in in europe, the almost destruction of germany and the strengthening of the soviet union, coupled with the establishment of the soviet bloc, meant a danger to the entire european world, including great britain, but again, correctly in the video, the delineator was bound by public opinion, and not only as part of the collapse of the government, but he was constantly bound by public opinion, starting from his coming to power, when he came instead of the already sick chamberlain, if what berlin was in power of great britain, then everything would develop there in a completely different way in the words alexander nikolaevich if you have a person with whom you are working together on some kind of project and you seem to have this relationship, well, rough, but nothing and then this person. it really decides, while you are turning away, to insert a knife into your back not
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figuratively, but simply not to put everything that you just said. this is an excuse for the ability of this person to insert a multiplier in the back, but simply because, well, this will be a balance, then everything will be normal, everything is fine and always come to history of international relations and dire point. and in general, to everything, he is generally a highly different person, unlike you, with some surnames. there, that some colleague or someone inserted a knife into my back, then this is exclusively my flaw. yeah, because i should have seen it to anticipate the possibilities. i understand. yes, i want to return now, and sergeyevich means that a certain balance of power was also upset in europe, although, as far as i understand, there is no evidence that we were going to conquer great britain. and that didn't stop the same uk to develop a plan for the invasion. uh, you know the territory of the soviet union correctly, and well, so what, so you need to proceed from the fact that nothing is conceivable, there
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was nothing in this operation, except for the name itself. and by the way, there was nothing new in this either, and mr. churchill in the eighteenth year. uh, that's all, i came up with, yes, i came up with everything, that in the eighteenth year, the main task now is to completely eliminate russian statehood. this can only be done by the hands of germany, so he addressed cloy george i spoke to the then prime minister. let's feed the defeated germans and send them, uh, to strangle russia, it was the eighteenth year, so nothing new after the forty-second year is in full swing. e of the battle of stalingrad at this time, mr. churchill writes, his famous memorandum on a united europe , which begins with the following words, that hmm , the worst thing that can happen if the russian barbarians capture europe is what? he says no more. to forget when this unthinkable plan appears, so as not to imagine again
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that this is just some kind of stupidity, it appears immediately the order is given for its development. immediately after his death, vot roosevelt began, because he knew that the string would not be able to do this with roosevelt. he was sure that replay could. yes , absolutely true and will untie accordingly. something we are right let's go, we are letting you all down, but so that you are our viewers and i do not need it in the first place, as a tall person, as these countries have explained. uh, there 70 years ago 80 years ago, sort of like ours were allies. well, that's the allies of the allies are different things. well, wait for the father and allies. he also, probably, does not owe you any meanness. such a famous, and british economist movie show. yes, he was just negotiating with the
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united states to support economic britain during the second world war, and he quite clearly wrote that the goal of the united states was to peck out the eyes of the british empire and not the allies, but they perfectly understood that they would cut at the first thing first alliance between two states is always a temporary phenomenon. we know very well the situation when first there was the union, then there was the war, and so on. but the fact is that when we talk about this plan, it is unthinkable. we must understand that, firstly, there were two plans. the first plan is a plan, and an attack on the red army is not on the soviet union, but on the red army. this is partly to mention and this plan passed the military examination and the military clearly said the first plan. they clearly said, and we can not beat them quickly b. and we can't and beat them hard, because, firstly, there are more of them, and secondly, we don’t know what potential they have there and any attempt to fight against the
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soviet union will lead to the fact that we will fight for a very long time advantage. with us, they wrote only in strategic aviation the second moment. and after churchill realized that this plan would not work, again. it was just a plan everyone makes plans for the future. i think that the red army also kept the plan, and the military is trying so, the second plan is the second plan, which churchill ordered it was a plan for the defense of europe if suddenly the soviet union attacked and then experts told him, we will not be able to defend europe, we will be able to defend only our british isles. uh-huh that's where this story ended. i'm still trying to understand, here, uh, they are allies. it's clear that they are temporary and it's clear that they have their own interests. uh, first of all, they somehow support us to a greater extent, like this, i will say they helped or, to a greater extent , they used us in these very interests. well firstly, the union is in general when a country goes to
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a certain limitation of its own sovereignty, that is, it assumes allied obligations and pursues some political goals, that is, the union will both long-term and temporary talk about what role the allies played , but it's pretty pointless. in what sense was it a coalition war, that is, two large coalitions, that is, the axis countries with smaller allies, which were not equal allies there, and the uk, the united states, the soviet union, again with more small allies, and these are two large coalitions. one country. do not stand on the other side for any long time against a coalition where everyone understands that within the coalition its members are building intrigues in each other's relations. i would now even point out whether our allies in the war, britain and the united states, were defeated by the soviet union , if they wanted defeat in the soviet union, they , in principle, could simply go for a separate peace, and with the same strange axes. which the germans of the fortieth year aspired to. uh
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it’s another matter that it didn’t suit their interests, that is, the defeat of the soviet union makes this coalition with countries unequivocally, if it is stronger than the anti-hitler coalition is much stronger, that is, the soviet union is a very big force, so wish the soviet union was defeated during the war they e. well, how stupid it would be, they wanted to, as it was, as truman himself said, that there is, let's say the russians win, you need to help the germans. if you take no already help the russians and let them as long as possible they kill the ideas of the toad with the viper, that is, stalin, as much as possible weakened each other. you imagined that the soviet union should, and win with them, but at the same time should be as weakened as possible. that is, as much as possible with a thin war, and here it is. e. here, when they say, let's say about a violation of the balance of power in europe. this is, uh, a favorite tale that is not completely
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untrue, for example, in the forty-fifth year , the united states armed forces is 12 million. a person in the uk - this is more than 7 million. soviet suicides - 11.5 million people, that is, great britain and the united states surpassed the soviet union by more than one and a half times in strength. plus, they were superior to them at sea and in the air. so here, and they were unhappy. that, in fact, they were very annoyed by the fact that the soviet union was completely, firstly, very large public support, that is, our real allies were, who are sincere friends, they are allies who, well, i understood, yes, it was with us like these here communist movements in greece too. in france, this is good. let's see, because the expert actually argues a lot about this western aid directly in the soviet union how significant it was, one side always remembers zhukov, who says that without liza we would hardly have been able to operate so successfully, the other side. he says that's really all. this was done
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in order to slow down and bleed as much as possible, which was already said today in the soviet union , however, and the current russian leadership it constantly remembers the contribution of the soldiers of the western powers, who fought against the hetelian troops against the nazi troops and despite today's international. vladimir putin and may 9 again about it we know that american veterans who wanted to come to the parade in moscow were actually banned from doing so, but i want them to know we are proud of your exploits and your contribution to the common victory. we honor all the soldiers of the allied armies of the americans, the british, the french, the participants in the resistance of the brave soldiers and the partisans of china, all those who defeated nazism and militarism, when they talk about the help of the allies, in the second world war, they first of all remember that the soviet union received more than
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18,000 aircraft from the united states and great britain. about 19,000 armored vehicles, 400,000 cars and trucks supplied firearms and locomotives. metal , oil products, machine tools and food, though for such voluminous assistance. i had to pay off debts . russia closed it only in 2006 by paying the united states more than 700 million. we could do without lend-lease, but it would cost more human life, that is, the war lasted longer. and it would have cost and it would have cost what is called a million human lives more. the west also considers the opening of a second front to be a great contribution to the victory over germany. however. here it must be recalled that the western allies showed considerable deliberation and the landing in normandy was constantly postponed and took place. as a result, in 1944 alone, during this time, the soviet union lost more than five million people, moreover, to at this moment, the red army managed
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to achieve turning points in the war on its own, of course, serious thorough preparation, and it was carried out, but certainly. it was enough to recall the words of us president georgia's son when on the eve of the tehran conference. he said that if we don't go to war now, it looks like the russians will be able to win the issues and relations of the united states with germany during the second world war. so some american companies continued to actively trade in the nazis even after the official start . of the war, ford supplied the wehrmacht with aircraft engines and cars continued to work, and the opel company, which was then owned by the american concern general motors, and the coca-cola company produced a drink for nazi germany, sergei anatolyevich, as appropriate. here are all kinds of conversations. they come up every year. again, by may 9 , there would have been no land lisa, there would not have been this
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landing on the day of df, in the forty-fourth year, they themselves would have done it for sure. to what extent is it possible to put the question like that. well, first of all. i would like note that it is very gratifying, what is on one of the leading tv channels. this is a question you are discussing at one of the previous ones, let's not be shy about perfect evaluation. i absolutely agree. because for our viewers, the clarification of the situation around the so -called allies. a very important point is that from the point of view of professional historical science , the question of whether discussions are saxon. that the so-called partners are allies to us in any situations or not? in principle, it is not worth it, and now they were talking about a variety of chronological periods, but you and i understand that the confrontation with great britain, and later from the united states. this is a confrontation with the anglo-saxon centers, the so-called parasitic center, which has always built and is
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building its relations with the rest since the colonial robbery of the world according to a very simple principle, our freedom is formed at the expense of lack of freedom. for everyone else, our wealth is formed at the expense of the poverty of everyone else and the anglo-saxons to this, and they treated it in matters of lenses, including here it is very important to remind some quotes. here is the time, for example, of the great game of the 19th century, on the eve of the crimean war. lord palmerson sighs oh, how hard it is to live in a world when no one is at war with russia for another 100 years, yes, the events of the second world war. and the sighs are the same on the eve. again, the same assessments are given to the crimean company and the palmerstons declare to israel. we need to set fire to all the borders of russia, especially along the shores of present-day georgia and ukraine, so that ukrainians and georgians become firewood in the furnace of a big war. well, as a matter of fact, ukrainians today are this firewood that
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about the plans that were hatched. i'm a clone of lisa too. now i'll be back, is it possible to draw any conclusions based on everything that you are talking about, here history was supposed to teach us something, but it didn't teach anything. why the hell didn't they learn anything. why well, because that's how it works. unfortunately, the psychology of a person who does not tend to delve deeply into these issues. but then, as the president rightly quoted, history deeply punishes for unlearned lessons. and this again. i will now finish the thought the problem, including ours historical school and university education and in the soviet period and in the nineties in 2000 in russia, we in vain did not tell the truth about ukraine , we leveled all this with the friendship of the peoples of the ukrainian ussr, we hushed up that for the sixty-fifth year we continued to fight with bandera from bandera’s chronicles in ukraine as well we are talking about allies.
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in no case do i want to throw a stone at the garden of those really western veterans who are now alive, who have made their real contribution. now we are talking about the alekseinovich union, our favorite topic, which they understood enough, i did not professionally work out further formation yes, yes, well, sla agrees yes listen well, i just say so, so that they are correct in some in some assessments, when our dear historians refer to, uh, statements of those or other politicians of different eras, so to speak, can be compared today. today, including politicians from the high tribunes, someone allows rhetorical atomic bombs to be launched somewhere. yes, it means to cut through some land, and corridors. if all this is recorded in the documents and goes through some historical stages yes, and then it will speak. but look at the audience. do not speak
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platitudes, love memoirs are not really a court view and attitude to the events described. specifically, the author himself. yes it is subjective, but you say so from this subjectivity from the particular to the general. here you write memoirs or say plugged the role instead of meeting, and i'll write. i will say that i did not shut up. you can not be heard. now. let's go turn, please, two words. they are conceivable. but this plan, ah, so we should not draw a conclusion, so that everyone now talks about his attitude to the plan, unthinkable. so we stopped at that, and you agreed. yes , they didn’t explain enough to us that we didn’t learn any lesson from this story. i want to understand why and what was the question. it would be necessary for the so -called ally, as countries with which it is possible to negotiate and is waiting for the second world war, learned this lesson and everyone always perfectly understood that
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international relations are built, among other things, on mistrust, on economic benefits, on mutual interests, concessions, and so on. we understood this very well throughout our history, when we discussed lithuania, latvia and so on there in the previous block, what do we expect from them? what are we? some kind of surprise was prepared for us, no, but we traded trade with them, ros ros, so to speak, what we wanted for god's sake, we can now trade with him, they don't want to quite right. that is, we trade here, and here we wrap the fish. and here we read understand them. yes? let's andrey vladimirovich well, i would still stretch out today's time. let's a-a row, after all, there were a-a allies, they were allies. yes now we have no allies, but the goal of today's former allies is ours. she is the same as she was, then they were allies, they do not want
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the same thing. they want one thing, they want the transformation of ukraine into a new socialist camp, which is being built by russia, that is why, that is, the same thing. today, you can absolutely calmly to say that sooner or later in a month or two there will also be a lamp called. hmm , which will just be focused on hitting ukraine, hitting russia, that's all, and you can tell that it already exists. andrei ivanovich got acquainted with him on a holiday. what happened in the war? well, let's remember in general where the war came from. let's start with the fact that the emergence of german nazism and italian fascism in europe was the nature of the opposition to soviet russia , the right-wing deviation in europe itself took exactly how counterweight and the so-called democratic countries. he is greatly facilitated by the emergence of the francoist regime in spain, this is generally an indicative story, with which he fought, in general. excuse me, only the soviet union from the outside, but
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in european democracies on this, that is, you understand, a monster was created to march to the east, and then it turned out that this bridge wants to gobble up from the west uh-huh and when we say, but the contribution of e england there is the contribution of the united states linguist assistance. can you understand they didn't in- opened the second front for one simple reason we rallied the lives of our soldiers for this, who destroyed the german car, which the british and americans did not do at that moment, paying. here, so to speak, delivery and technology. they essentially paid us for our deaths, because we destroyed what they were supposed to destroy. and when they tell me that the stalins planned or didn’t pronounce, no one, by the way, has so far presented a single soviet plan that is unthinkable for the capture of europe. and if you look at the military the power of the red army and the mood in europe forgive me, it was possible to walk all the way to the atlantic ocean. excuse me to crush the salazar regime, portugal spain france italy
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greece all these countries could enter. here in that big socialist bloc, what a comrade did not do at that time, as in the same greece that went to gray interesting britain. excuse me for suppressing the communists. uh, partizan, the british used the germans' collaborators of greek facts. this is a historical fact to the question, but what is it moral or not moral? here is the soviet union yes, the use of such bastards did not fall, unlike the western ones. and if you try to draw historical parallels, land fox has already signed a new biden. do we have to wait for a new day d and the landing of the allies, you want to say that the normal ones will open the second fact, where it is near odessa, i don’t know, it’s me now that you have an expander sergeevich, you know this, you shouldn’t wait for one simple reason russia has nuclear weapons. and why then did the unthinkable not take place, not because churchill was there, uh, overthrown, outplayed inside and
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so on, but simply because stalin made it impossible. we knew about this operation, the berlin operation is just the answer to the unthinkable, we demonstrated fantastic. the power of the soviet army was the second before this operation was to begin. we carried out a demonstrative regrouping of troops and deployed them. it's in shock fists, that everything was clear, that if they poke their nose in, they will get and the third thing, which we often forget about, we cleaned up rear, because according to the operation it was not conceivable that it was planned that the krai's army. the polish climbs over our communications of our army in germany, e, with the soviet union, to deprive the supply goes to the rails carried out a sweep. and now in poland they are crying about these so-called damned soldiers. they were destroyed precisely within the framework of countering the operation unthinkable, so it did not take place,
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because we did not allow it. stalin did not allow and now they will not be able to carry out the unthinkable operation, as this will lead to the third world war, more precisely, the fourth already world war with nuclear weapons is biden, who said no nuclear war, they are not going to die, they are going to weaken us as much as possible. andrei vladimirovich started up when i talk about the exhibition of the allies, i want to say that in fact, the flame conceivable from uh is enough. soon it will appear in a new version and it will start enough. soon literally in a month in all your predictions. i'm just saying that the first step in the implementation of the new plan, not in thought, will be a decision in flow. i think that in the next three weeks the closure will tell there were no forces over ukraine. here is the date of filatov. what are the forces of which countries , which countries? which countries is not a war with russia
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and how is it not a war? today you will shoot down russian planes and not declare war on russia , is it possible? by the way, and we will not shoot them down automatically, all this needs to be crazy, so the question is crazy, but there is such a plan, you will see it will be implemented. how many other details. uh, this is for you in the representation of kyiv so this one is famous. it's just me why sometimes your predictions are whispered to you by some of your subscribers about this. do we know, uh, let's say in our decision-making centers. i don’t know, yes, this is already a position, not kiev’s appeal, and it will soon be a goal there. what questions or solutions do you have? wait ya.
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