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quiet please, this is the meeting point on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. we continue a few minutes ago the story that we showed you not talked about what raised the questions of the relations of the united states with germany during the war, these questions. then they didn’t go anywhere either, and after the war there were no less. let's have one more piece. let's see, according to harvard university, after the war, the international committee of the red cross provided assistance in making fake passports for the nazis; at least 120,000 fake documents were issued for traveling abroad ; the then pope pi-12 actively contributed to this process. he is allegedly under pressure from the cia, although he is a pontic. well known the fact that he closed his eyes to the horrors of the holocaust in 1933 was already the twelfth. it is known that

the persecution of jews began in germany, but he decided to hide this fact. in the archive, we found over 400,000 boxes with documents that say that pope pius twelfth was aware of all the actions that the nazis carried out about what they were doing in ukraine, poland and the death camps, but he preferred to keep silent about it. most of the nazis fled to the countries of latin america in the united states, where they were recruited by american intelligence services, more than a thousand nazis worked for the cia, according to a file declassified in 2014. they were used as spies and informers against the soviet union of all ranks as secret anti-soviet assets , declassified records speak of this. they believed that the intelligence value of the former nazis against the

russians outweighed the moral lapse in their in the service of the third reich, as part of operation paperclip , 120 scientists from nazi germany were transported to the united states, including the rocket scientist wernher von braun, he became the director of the space flight center . many collaborators found refuge in us, across the ocean. suffice it to recall the operation paperclip, when more than a thousand nazi criminals were taken to the states. these are intelligence scientists, people who were engaged in propaganda under the direction of the minister. goebbels began the cold war such cadres in the confrontation. the ussr was more important for america morals. well, that is, we're kind of here's an extra extra there. we throw coins into the piggy bank. eh, boris vitalyevich, andrey vladimirovich said that the goals of our allies, there 80 years ago, were the goals of our non-allies. today, they are exactly the same. well, we still knew such a thing. i just want to understand how we are building relationships with them now. if they are already scaring us, then the opening of a second front is still

different, because now there is no ideological problem for the west from russia, that is, no soviet union with communist ideology. so, then it was a much more serious confrontation. and that's what they say that putin is resurrecting the soviet union well, i don't know, they don't mind this. yes, and here, uh, there is some moment that, ah, from here, relations are built with those who collaborated with hitler, that is, let's say in the soviet union, uh, there would be no reunion , let's say the roc with the roc, there were no roc ussr organizations that collaborated with hitler there would be no monuments of red and statements, let's say kiseleva on channel one about the need to erect monuments to the red, he was, uh, the curator of the cossack ss troops, he served hitler, he had a military rank, if that is, it was hanged as a betrayal. quite right. so that is, uh, it was there that the ideological front came, that is, the soviet union could not accept anyone who collaborated with hitler. that is, you understand,

yes, because, as it were, reunification happened after the collapse. so i think that here, in principle, konstantinovich has so far again said relatively. recently, yes, an erroneous moment is that there is this moment of reconciliation with those who served gigi and this is reconciliation right in our country - this is some kind of high matter, such an association with the russian orthodox church, i gave two examples, i can add another example if you want . no, i'm just saying that there is reconciliation or some more cynical story. you understand some kind of benefit there, the search for some kind of benefit. well, here you can clearly stop. and for some reason this is not stopped , it weakens, by the way, in this case, the position is ideological in such reasoning. yes, er, the allies, they really actively used the services of the nazis. yeah, the soviets, by the way, also used the services, and the german prisoners

of the germans who went over to the side of the soviet union, for example, the same thing, paulis taught from the military academy, but they did not use the services of the nazis. those are the ones who are here, eh! goebbels had efficient workers, and so on. here, uh, they were not used, in my opinion, we are starting to get confused in the testimony igor sergeevich nothing surprising in using there are no nazis, because nazism itself in general, the third reich was grown by these very western democracies by the united states and britain to destroy the soviet union, this is a matter in order. yes, is there now what boris vitalyevich was talking about, some ideological reason for hostility between the west and us? there is, of course, absolutely . let's remember, not the current, but last year's form of pleasure. well , remember, putin spoke there. uh, video calls. yes,

last year before this forum, uh, the book of this schwab is published. yes? uh-huh well, according to inclusive capitalism, uh, rockefeller there, the rothschilds and other things are creating, uh, the control structures of this new one. eh, beautiful, as they consider the world order, where there are no women, no children, no motherland, nothing, no religion, and so on. he speaks for the presidency of russia and what he is talking about is exactly the opposite. he talks about sovereignty , he talks about the value of religion, he talks about the value of the family. this is a direct opposition western civilization. i will recall the words of mr. biden, uttered, and in 2015, when he was still, and after all, the prime minister's representative. excuse me , you see, the president of the united states, so he

quite officially then said that the main threat to liberal globalism and the world order comes from russia, this was a clear position of the united states. i mean that he is not crazy. therefore, the fact that we are now at different poles. this is absolutely obvious, despite the fact that capitalism is here and there. wait means if it's not crazy, but if it persists on including and i'm trying to figure out what 's next yes persists. that's the ideological reason for, uh, conflict. how much is this conflict? eh, maybe, e quickly and, most importantly, uncontrollably develop. andrey vladimirovich has already told us. of course, i have forgotten the dates now, but there, at about the same time, the self-formation of the international criminal court for ukraine will also close the sky over ukraine, that is. you see, that's how our allies behaved then. so i'm trying to predict how they will behave the

allies wanted to want and will want to cut our throats. so, well they don't. that is, they will want what the fists want, but do nothing, their own heads. quite right. grigoryevich , of course, i am not in a predictive way. thank god, we have someone i won’t make forecasts for, but if example, a is hit by russian troops, uh, some kind of aviation with signs of belonging to some nato country, then this is at least an incident were for the impact of our e of our weapons on this country, so, but other reasons for or something in your opinion lead to the fact that some planes with some nato signs do this, if someone wants, beautifully suicidal, then , probably, this will lead to this there about this alexander nikolaevich alexander nikolaevich just again said there that the only b and possible reasons. this is

the use of nuclear weapons by russia, in my opinion, they have always said so, and like this, yes, everything will spin. no, i've been saying all along that the conflict between russia and nato is possible, most likely at the initiative of russia. well, in my opinion, you also said that after we come to arms, this is the second stage, as it were, yes. this will certainly lead e to this conflict, but it means that we are talking about the fact that today this conflict. will receive the absence of russia as such, why should the kremlin decide to commit suicide? the kremlin what thoughts did it act on february 24? for a second, there was nothing that stinks of danger, which is able to eliminate the force. if and there was a threat, then it was in relation, the dnr are

people who have completely lost touch with reality and are a threat to all of humanity. did i understand you correctly. have you correctly interpreted your words. right now. yes, the points of view of the action of the twenty-fourth of february have no reasonable basis. well, you said the same thing back then, andrey nikolayevich. the point is that when we talk about an ideological conflict in 1945, you understand how much ideology decides here. it must be understood that communism, as a threat, swept in the forty-fifth year, a geopolitical competitor was hiding along it, gaining strength and today the situation is the same, because otherwise, flourishing anti-sotism, and in soviet russia in the nineties, so to speak, would seem to have to prevent the advancement of nato to the east but why did it advance, because russia even abandoned the soviet ideology. all the same , geo was considered as a geopolitical competitor, firstly, as a country with huge natural resources, and secondly, as the only

a country indeed that can inflict defeat due to its nuclear forces in the west, and from this competitor. it is necessary to get rid of it at any cost, and everything that was done is being done for this, but in general this is the methods that are used now. well, as the west warms up, the actual military activity in ukraine gives it ideological content , this weapon gives it. on the whole, they are not very different from the methods that were used after the end of the great patriotic war to get the same territory there. disassemble let's may 3 british prime minister boris johnson spoke via video link to the deputies of the verkhovna rada, he once again assured that ukraine would win, but this is not the main thing. johnson quoted the author of the very plan of attack on the soviet union, winston churchill, saying that the finest hour had come for kiev. you dispelled the myth of putin's invincibility and inscribed one of the most glorious pages in military history and in the history of your country's life, the so-called

irresistible force of putin's military machine crashed against an unshakable object, ukrainian patriotism and love for the motherland is the finest hour of ukraine, which will be remembered and retold for many more generations, the past sunday has become. it is known that britain will allocate almost 1.5 billion pounds to ukraine for military purposes. earlier, the british ministry of defense had already promised to supply the ukrainian army with high-tech missiles, and on may 9, the head of the department, ben wallace, delivered a speech. minister accused russia of fascism russian president vladimir putin and his generals reproduce fascism and tyranny of 77 years ago and their invasion of ukraine is dishonored by the military past of the country russian generals are as complicit as their president and should appear before a military court two days earlier in support of ukraine antonin. according to linkin, the people of ukraine today are bravely fighting for their freedom, and russia is allegedly distorting history. on may 9, joe biden signed a

law on aid to kiev under the lend-lease program, and on the eve of the us director of national intelligence said that vladimir putin was preparing for a protracted conflict in ukraine, russian military forces in donbass is just a temporary phenomenon to regain the initiative after the defeat of the russian army. it is our hope that they will not be able to extend control over the land corridors from the regions of donbass to the proclaimed republic of transnistria over the coming months, the trajectory of the conflict could become increasingly unpredictable and potentially escalating , sorry to say. sorry, we had a little kosyachok here; instead of anthony binkino, we put his white house press secretary so gray-haired younger. well ask for god's sake anyway did johnson draw, whether the methods and desires are about the same listen. and yes, the parallels are generally the same now when johnson spoke and

showed this fiery speech, and i remember the story in the winter war. uh, when russia got involved, the soviet union got involved in the war with finland, won, as a result, took, uh, part of the territory, but after its completion? how did you compare the comparison is happening now with the war in finland said, and then kolos on clay feet and actually exactly, then it became possible, and attack on the soviet union the soviet union was presented as an invincible army, but what and what, and what the soviet allied, you know about laugh, i'm your favorite tactic, so to speak. i just say it again alexey gennadievich, i see how grigory yuryevich also grabs the dance with his head, please. well, let's have a thesis. and you counter arguments. here, look at mine . let's be so young, young, beginning history, alexei was talking. wait one more time.

i say. let's do it again, it means young beginning story such no no no no need me young, beginner history to write it well young, at least young, say beginner. look here . yes, the soviet union unleashed, there got involved in a war with finland won it hitler said that it was kolos on long legs who attacked the soviet union alexei what are you arguing with quietly? alexei gennadievich says? here, look what johnson says, here is the terrible putin invading ukraine, his car crashed, and the patriotism of ukrainians is this starry hour. blah blah blah, that means they attack russia now. that's what he said the decision, or rather the order to prepare for an attack on the soviet union, was london by hitler a at a meeting with the leadership of the wehrmacht in july 1940, exactly at the moment when britain

refused to conclude peace. uh, so much so that the decision that defeated france britain was made by nazi germany. it was then that a and before the finnish war and e during the finnish war and after the finnish war, the german command did not perceive the red army in any way. as any kind of competitor and even after the defeat of france which was her main enemy on the continent, even more so. take it to me, namely, therefore, and the wehrmacht conducted disgustingly bad intelligence on the territory of the soviet union and a lot of things that they should have known in the summer of 40, i now propose not to finish off alexei gennadievich with his feet, as young and it begins with the fact that after the finnish war began the great fatherland showed whether this means boris vitalievich, whether this means that we should, well, how

not to take such a possibility seriously enough, and a full-scale war against us sides of the west actually, the further the stakes are raised in this conflict, the greater the likelihood of a large-scale war. here, that is, the supply of weapons from nato. here, when he speaks here, let's say about the possibility. eh, closing the sky, they also say in this, well, softly and not in this studio. it's a lot. they say. it's more and more and more possible. large-scale conflict and which can lead to a nuclear conflict, but just politicians - it never really stopped remembering the same world war ii. after world war i public was convinced that a major war in the world is no longer possible after such a nightmare, the first world war has been going on for 20 years. sergey anatolyevich respect colleagues. well, first of all, i want to say that we are now completing our discussion, but there is always a colossal problem for the humanities. collect in

one studio. eight humanitarians will be forgotten. where they started to forget, how we ended is still another topic, we didn’t talk about the soviet and closed the fight, then the semantics etiorelatives. i will allow myself just two, as it were, remarks of a general nature and specifically write it down, please, many colleagues said. i fully agree with this that there is no need to delve into the causes of the current aggravation. it is. just after the ninety-first year. we allowed ourselves to say in 2000 that russia exists as a subject of world law, but this is only an element of this confrontation for more than 1,000 years. from a great sketch from 1054. there was no trace of the states; there was a huge civilizational confrontation. west of russia we others. but we do not impose anything on them. we always spoke and offered the last time in december last year. putin suggested it.

let's negotiate. we are answered all 1,000 years. no, we will not negotiate. you must be like we say we don't want to be. in 1991 we tried to become like them. in 10 years we ceased to be ourselves. the russian federation actually no longer existed. this is in the general philosophical, as for the horrors that are predicted about ukraine and so on, how it all ends. i don't want to be a visionary. i'll just give a little political forecast, how do i see it? everything, in fact, is extremely simple. it is not ukraine that is at war with us. this is textbook known, this is a consolidated collective west that pumps it with all its might and they will never go into the phase of a nuclear war. the west has long been consumerist; everything, so to speak, is mired in the consumption of coffins of corpses. nobody needs. the cowardly west, no one will take this step. they sit and wait with horror for the end of the operation in ukraine, we

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leave your comments there. . so is it possible, given everything of the historical context that we have analyzed, are you building relationships with western places today? look, vadimchik i think that in the very near future and from the point of view of the economic political military. we will enter a very serious phase of conflict with the west, which is extremely painful for us, and for the west this will definitely happen in western ukraine will not give up. igor sergeevich is possible and necessary the west our neighbor on the planet and it is necessary to interact with him, but only in those conditions when the west understands that we cut their throats he will not get an example of the second world war. found cooperation here, so aleksey ggnatevich is encouraging, the main lesson that we had to learn , in principle, all of humanity, is to kill the war and prevent its repetition and

the world from rolling into a big catastrophe, so to speak. we didn't take it into account. this horn didn't do well, well, in this situation. i think it is worth bringing to an end, a special war operation, to get the results that were planned, and then negotiate. well, most likely, to negotiate, probably with other people, because with this elite, uh-huh, boris vitalievich, it will not work to interact. only if we fly to the moon, that is, in fact, interaction. it is inevitably another matter that one must understand that in the capitalist world interaction is possible only from a position of economic power, which relies on military force. uh-huh, there's no other way alexander nikolaevich what kind of relationship? forgive me that someone offers some sort of relationship here for people who don't consider new countries to build relationships, implying absence. whatever your relationship, there is every chance to build new relationships before the problem and not only i, but everyone has a

pessimist, such andrey, in short, the war. this is also a form of shot no relationship. think about it, if in 1945 the church still began to implement about conceivable things, so that we would fight, if there is a forecast for a month ahead and god forbid what we will do to him. they are nothing. he doesn't stay with us. we never want war, but sometimes we have to. i would share here in your question. andrei vladimirovich there are big countries, big players with whom it is possible and necessary to build relationships, as andrei nikolayevich rightly said, war is also building relationships of a kind, and there is a state that does not have any sovereignty, but is from us, as you are western and we showed you lithuania and latvia here, in my opinion, do not need to build anything special. and you just need to wait until this statehood is again lost. i build relationships then. we personally have 40 seconds. come on the fourteenth of may, yaroslavl residents to the dk shipbuilder, i think at 7:00 pm we will first have a meeting on the fifteenth in rybinsk in

the city's cultural center, also, i think, at 7 pm. we talked a lot about churchill today. well, now, probably, we won't get a little bit. i'll tell you one story, dear professionals in this field. you, please, don’t always throw slippers on me now. true, this is also a historical anecdote. well, you can tell, then it's good, anything is good. although, i suspect that now not everyone will understand that they are coming. so in forty-second year the soviet union arrives at the moscow conference. the so-called stalin gave the order to prepare in such a way that the british would not experience any inconvenience, because they are difficult people. well, here are the negotiations, then the banquet, everyone is sitting at the dinner table, the british with such sour faces, and everyone, including the church. every 10 minutes someone gets up and apologizes. says sorry and runs to the toilet. stalin means that comrade molotov speaks in molotov’s ear. and why are they so unhappy

our british friends. to be honest, comrade stalin, i can’t imagine, for them all the dishes were prepared exclusively from english products, there is even epsom salt. i did not understand, i thought so, well, it was. just don't try to salt anything with epsom salts. instead of a meeting, 14:00 weekdays broadcast ntv goodbye. hello on ntv news in the yegor ivanov studio at the educational center for distant children sirius, a new building has appeared sport today the president of the donetsk people's republic examined it

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