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will be deployed there, because the finnish army is self-sufficiently well prepared and can generally conduct military operations, but in the nato system good enough, huh? fi, i repeat once again that finland is going to nato for only one reason , being afraid to be left alone, and due to the fact that sweden, which in fact has always been following nato, officially now it can’t formalize finland, otherwise it will leave hmm, there is some danger for us, and of course, of course, there is a danger, but i would say that we calculated this step and i would like to draw your attention to the fact that the northern fleet at one time received the status of an operational-strategic command, that is de facto military district and northern fleet. and it became something like the central district there. yes, the southern fleet, and so on, and the fleet is really the largest northern fleet, uh, of our four fleets, the largest there is the most powerful, the strongest ah, and the very strategic and strategically

free, that is, the way out. we have the most free there, but this fleet is also attached, two motorized rifle brigades of the air defense system and special forces and a huge number of different units that, in fact, are already called upon to carry out a-a. covering the border for the period when such the situation could arise, we calculated it. it may now arise, i foresee that the northern fleet, as an operational-strategic command , will be strengthened, and additional a and units of the formation will appear. eh, and above all, and land it really should have, but a certain impact on the actions of the finnish side. look , the finns are already saying in advance that they, god forbid , something happens, they explain their position. so we have nowhere to go. 'cause we've been told we're all together we're kind of west well here we are not well if the factory is not very convincing, because it is over a very different period of time, and on the

other hand they did not go for it, but on the other hand. they say we don't expect anything from the russians. they already send a message in advance. eh, guys, you are worried about us. we’ll raise the flag now, but we ’ll try not to do anything. i don’t understand if the conditions are global security, but you still understand, especially with today’s turbulence in the world. here are the steps. they are the same well they are not good these moves and yet say let's say that there in america and hmm no one understands , i can't either, because i understand, in fact, that it's the same in britain. here, let's look at the statement on the military's own american expert. let's see. if russia says no eastward expansion of nato, this is a vital threat for russia and that is what they mean, they will not allow nato to operate on finnish soil, and they will not allow finland to become part of nato isn't that clear. is ukraine nobody? didn't teach anything. ukraine nothing to anyone

taught. she had to teach. but why do all this right now. why do you think they are pushing the finns and the swedes there, well, they pushed before, but also the finns and the swedes. eh, resisted. basically. finnish truth. i agree that the swedes had cohabitation with nato. and now they formalize cohabitation as an official marriage, but, in principle, we know from life that this changes a little in relationships. uh in finland of course, it's a slightly different story, and uh, the fact that finland is joining natu. it's uh foreign policy loss for russia yeah, i'll take a chance. well, so to speak, because we had a geopolitical marriage with finland for almost 80 years, a geopolitical romance. more precisely, with finland, let's say roman because there were close relations, but they supported us, despite belonging to the

west, supported us in many of our international initiatives. no rabid anti-russian companies were built in. this is true. our economy worked. listen, last year our trade grew by 70% with finland after covid-19, we traded 20 billion dollars more than with turkey, with which there, uh, the supposedly economic giant from a small daland, five and a half million people, and uh, there were purely human relations. we even e perceived finland as a certain. eh, a harmonious example of the relationship between government, business and the people, what do they say social justice is right there? house and so on and so forth. until the last aggravation of relations, we even advised ukraine that the finnishization of politics finlandization. we advised them. everything now will no longer be ukrainization in finland, which, of course, is a loss. uh, good or bad of course

bad. well, here's how to behave now in i believe that it is impossible to aggravate the situation. doing even more harm to yourself, that is, you can’t go on to insulting rhetoric and threatening actions, because, well, there are, uh, there were 30 countries in nato and there will be 32 countries, most likely in a year. until the whole procedure is completed, but there are different countries in nato, if, for example, hungary hungary is also a nato country for quite a long time time, but we can build normal relations with her, despite the fact that she is a nato country, italy can also be a nato country had normal civilized, mutually beneficial diplomatic relations, and so on. let's build up even in these conditions, realizing that this is a diplomatic loss and a foreign policy one, we will still find a way to build normal relations with finland without aggravating this loss that we will already suffer, yes, let's do it, and it will be small. and here i agree.

maybe immediately arise and begin to pour some phenomena, for example, here it can be to deal with these things in russia by no means nothing. yes, it doesn’t get good, with which i agree with the fact that our relations with finland were indeed good. i have spoken repeatedly. in this in this studio, it’s the same as at the time when we watched a in the czech republic demolish our monuments to ours, a commander at a time when we watched the heroic baltic states at the head there, and with no less heroic poland , they were doing exactly that most continuing to do. as in ukraine they did exactly this, there was nothing like this in finland. there was nothing like

alexander ii yes. the monuments stood by our emperor, the street and the squares were even duplicated in russian in some places, because they also bore the names of our tsars, and when you arrive, i don’t know in any settlement there, immatra 2 km, there from the border and at every step they hung there are all kinds of memorial plaques there, where it was written that this hotel, and at one time it was built here why because the empress ekaterina came here and she admired the waterfalls. but this one, the city of imatra , was built, which means i don’t remember whether it ’s really, or as a secret, but as a state adviser, and his brother there, the infantry general built it there. yes, this is another twenty and everything else. and at the same time, no one is worth an interesting plant. yes , now there is no plant operating produces nickel from the russian president. this is a slightly

different story. i'm talking about the fact that they did not succumb to this russofian madness that we observed in many countries of the world here i agree with you. but what about this question, if we are nikolai let me ask you, but if, for example, we get one more country, sweden does not, because the land borders. there is no finland if we get one more country, and on the territory of which some kind of nato bases can hypothetically appear. and it will be there or there, i don't know the military facilities of countries that treat us differently than the same finns, oh, who treat us quite differently on the contrary. we in general, they should react in some way, because there are statements, for example, about kaliningrad. by the way, we have. yes, there is a statement about kaliningrad let's see what the british say there, yes. let's see, as tensions rise between nato and russia pay attention to kaliningrad in april,

kaliningrad was in the news when russia said it was ready to deploy nuclear weapons and hypersonic missiles in van clave if sweden finland join nato i.e. we have to somehow react and it's for a second. look yes, but not ours, uh, printed. yes, not our print media. yes, well, a few, yes, that is, they are there, that is, they understand that we will have to react one way or another , and we must react, because we are the state and if we react, will it mean, as sergei borisovich says a there i don't know. hmm, the deterioration of our our attitude towards the same finland, or will it be adequate, which will obviously happen, well, well, or will it be an adequate response? well, first of all, you need to read indeed all the publications that were. eh, indeed. e, vladimir putin e. in july, i also wrote a detailed article to a russian newspaper stating that there would be a special operation, no one read it in russia, nor in europe, nor

in nato or read it. well, that is, they read it, but did not understand anything, what was written there, but the same thing was written here, and putin has already said that now, given the neutral status of finland, uh, russian troops. well i'm so supposed to context that strategic appointments are assigned to 1,500 km. and this will not continue if finland joins nato, therefore, unconditionally. uh, such shifts , such changes, they will happen. and i'm not talking about that. yes, yes, yes, yes, how the russian authorities should react should be considered, let's say, a step on our part. in relation to finland, i think not. this is such a unique case when, in relation to finland, i think not. and when you started to convey what you asked, does washington understand that this will help? yes all now are doing actions that there are no actions that you have contributed to enhancing international security and reducing the tension of such actions.

nobody undertakes agree. at the moment, to be sure to think about your personal e-security of your country and their thing in this regard. here actually. my reaction. you notice nick, it turns out that everyone thinks that this chain reaction will affect someone else. but no, we are fine, and what will this lead to? do you think if you knew someone to what will it lead to? i know exactly what not to do now. it's really. there is no need to aggravate the situation, because when including in this one, sorry to the studio, when one is here someone is a jerk of the second. yes, i even wrote it down, you don’t need to do it, because especially on international international relations. and finland now i am such a mission in finland, in general, it was before that, taking into account, among other things , putin's personal relations with the presidents, and trusting relationships. and also taking into account e from the history of his work in petersburg to become a negotiator between russia nato because finland will still be

a neighbor of russia and russia will still be a neighbor in finland, what kind of wall are you? even if you don’t build a wall, at least 100 km, it will still be the neighbors now what do you remember? i'm just you saying, such a bridge, between us, for example, yes, and there is someone, and i remembered how the negotiations were going on. i don’t remember with whom a spoke with the president of russia, and the base for these negotiations was the palace of the russian emperor, which is located on the territory finland putin went there by car. the pace was, yes, the cars and the picture was amazing. when the finns stood along the road, they actually watched it. the motorcade of the russian president and there were comments under these photos that hmm the russian president is going to meet with the american practical to his home. yes, because for people and well, yes, it authoritatively declares for us from st. petersburg you can get to helsinki. but if it 's fast in 4 hours, you can by car and putin is for sure. it can very well do and now so

such a role, because once the negotiations will still be now everything is in this way, they all speak frankly about it, that everyone is now gaining more points before the negotiations in the negotiations. when it should be yes, let's show you now vladimir vladimirovich, we'll show you the results of the survey that we conducted on the ntv website let's look at this topic. the question is very simple. we formulated it like this: does sweden's accession to nato in finland threaten russia or not? what is this exactly about? i just said, 91% of our people he speaks. yes, this is a new base near our borders, that is, 91% of our people. before the statement itself, but someone that there will be nothing of this. we understand that it will definitely happen, because we have already gone through this and for the second time on this rake, that is, we won’t believe it for the second time, 7% say, i don’t know, let’s wait and see and 2% don’t, we have no problems with these countries. that's still 2% -

it's more unique after all people. yes, every time i am surprised at what does not go on, but the problems between these countries are completely different. but they are like this, yes, they are listening to michael. if really now strong wanted to post. uh, their bases or england wanted to be a long time ago they did it in two-way, and the base between britain in the final or the usa with britain you would certainly do it. if you were allowed to do it, the finns would like to do it. yes , they did and my assumption or hope that they would not do it. and the united states is not britain, once again, nato membership itself, if nothing is deployed, if there is no, uh, military infrastructure, this is not a threat to russia yeah, russia and going to finland, i am deeply convinced. it seems to me that it is quite obvious that it was the russian russian action that pushed the

push. yes, not america yes, of course, not america, not america at all, nothing to do with it, relax what you are actually discussing. i would like to know what has changed. so i want to understand, this is dangerous, maybe you are not addressing iran at all. yes , it means that finland had the status of a permanently neutral state. yes, and sweden well, they had a slightly different permanently neutral status, with in this we saw nato as our strategic adversary there in the era of the soviet union. they saw the soviet union placed the appropriate grouping. so then we stopped each other for a while, as enemies, and these groups were, in fact, eliminated. a large gray zone has arisen between us in the form of eastern europe, therefore ukraine and that's it. this is junk. so, e. now we are again we are not the first day. yes, even before the so-called special operation. we say we are already at war with the united states, not declared

no hot economic war. moreover, it can be even more destructive than the real war that is now going on. and even more so since the start of the special operation. we are already in a state of open military clashes between the united states and the allies, which means i want to remind you that when there was an open military clash in europe in 1939 in dash forty-five, then all these same scandinavian countries had a neutral status and when the german operation began on occupation of denmark and norway so she began day to day, almost hour by hour with the british, well, just a little ahead of the german case. however, they did not know that each other's operations were being prepared. they were just going to occupy a strategically important country, which means that when the soviet union opposed nato, we also knew that in the event of hostilities, the neutrality of sweden and finland, no one would pay attention and the soviet general staff was also preparing a corresponding invasion in order to

meet nato troops outside of korea not in the area with the iron that connects murman with the center of the country, but somewhere in finland it’s even better in norway and the americans knew about it, yes, that is, the finns knew about it, but in chemistry they just didn’t know which side it would be on fight armies. so, they, so to speak, uh, were going to conclude the choice when the actual war begins and the autopsy will already show. well, at least who occupied? yes, it means now the finns have decided that in the current situation it is better to get the occupation before the war. yeah, and they agreed that nato simply occupied them. for us it undoubtedly. in a sense, this is an increase in the threat, because at any moment a grouping can be deployed in finland, which will threaten to cut off the northern fleet. now i am in the murmansk railway of the responsibility of the northern fleet from the central regions of the country to carry the arkhangelsk threat and so on on the one hand. it 's a threat, but on the other side. we now

know for sure that it is necessary to create military infrastructure in karelia, yes, this is an extreme cost event from the barents sea, the baltic sea, the distance is not much less than from the baltic black, that is, it is necessary to actually double the infrastructure. this is a new contractor. that means an increase in the army. these are new bases. this is a new technique, there and so on. it's all very costly. but we do know for sure. now, that this is not the most restless flank, which you can spit on and not pay attention to. now we will definitely deploy it there, who is forewarned, then? yes i understand. here it is, this formula yes, but vladimir vladimirovich but there is a feeling, in fact, that the americans are, in fact, they go by leaps and bounds to start a real war. not over there, which we are talking about now, but directly the hot phase, because mm. well, everything is very similar, and at the same time they are not enough. there is still some step, and about this step , for example, yes, their analysts write there that

now we will wait until the poles enter, let’s say, into the territory of western ukraine and we will see how the russians react. but if all of a sudden, then we actually fit in a very serious conversation, because, after all, it’s clear that the whole world is discussing how real the third world war is, that is, how real it is, what can be this last match that will light and on the eve of this, the americans are using a very interesting tool. these are the social democrats who came to power in sweden and finland and in germany, and they launched the policy of these countries literally before our eyes. and practically not russophobes, but in general, the anti-russia project, jointly with ukraine, is already supporting ukrainian soldiers by sending weapons. it all social democrats plus green is america's tool in europe when it comes to ensuring that the scandinavian countries have a good fast passage from norway to russia that is, it should be an infrastructure that it practically already has, it just needs to be put under the command of the nato bloc now and the conversation in no

case needs to be displaced. ah, don't scare the finns. this is nonsense finns need to explain certain things and make a big difference between the criminal government, for example, the social democrats, greens and peoples. there are no problems with the people, some minority has seized power there, which is modern in steps. how do you say guide the country to some things. first, the finns will soon pay 2% of gdp for the purchase of which equipment, again, the germans, americans, british will not buy other equipment. they will not. that is, this investment immediately into the american budgets comes from they will pay, you understand the methods that they use, they are twofold, if we are talking about russia's security for security russia is not affected. russia has nearby. does this affect security in finland yes, this is nonsense. this is the rhetoric that the mantras repeat, there, uh, america is not the guarantor of security after afghanistan - this is known to the schroeder as an international crime. and this was again under the social democrats, when nato bombed yugoslavia. so the t-shirt, when it starts

repeating this mantra, we are not a threat, they are a threat, but there is a certain logic of logic that comes from the baltic countries. they are through the legalization, for example, of such formations as azov, which were re-dressed as defenders of the fatherland, in fact, they are also afraid of genocification roman georgievich when you talk about the fact that more will enter the city of lviv there, for example, western ukraine will take. like a dream. this is a small angle. yes, they dream of the black sea. they should land somewhere near odessa, the poles urgently and, of course, to finland. look at this whole line when the additional transfer. they are looking at about 6 years ahead, and now i'm not even talking about it, yes, about the poles, i just ask to interrupt. yes, and the former adviser to the secretary of defense of the united states talks about this dougos mcgregor, he says that biden needs poland's invasion of western ukraine and there is evidence there that it is about to happen, as they say, because a document appeared on a dry document, which says that on may 22

almost 10,000 will come to the territory of ukraine, and soldiers from poland with whom they will have over 200 units of military equipment, and then what the latter they say no one will take under protection. they will become the poles from the western side of odessa. the poles are interested in access from sea to sea. lithuanians sing along in this. this is a completely different ideology , they consider russia, they are simply there as an enemy, the russian world. well, marovetsky, he says, they are considering what will really happen without a nuclear collision. here is a nuclear nuclear. and why do they count on non-nuclear clashes? i can't understand this. that's why bring the situation to some point. and there, as they say, the lottery, either non-nuclear, or nuclei. why do i need to make food, i’m going on a train from strasbourg to berlin, from the sowing with the parliamentary assembly, when i talked to the swiss who were going to the agricultural forum, well, the peasants of europe have big problems too expensive fuel, and i explain to them the

guys in your bunker, which swiss law is prescribed and product stocks will be fined. you if there is no stock of products for 3 months, you will reply 3 months. well, the radiation won't go away. i'm not saying that it worked, but the swiss, when at a simple household level, then yes, when they understand, no, these delegates were normal, imagine the farmers on the train, but the poles listened to this conversation, the germans, everyone froze, well, the conversation is in german, so the meaning is very simple, when i explain to an ordinary person that the radioactive field is exactly the same will not disappear after 3 months. the consequences of the war they begin to ponder. why are they being deceived by the government, because the government, drawing in, what sweden, what finland is rightly said, it does not go to the vibrator. it's not promoting the world now it's now a completely different thing. this is preparations for a full-scale war, which may or may not be who will decide china, the united states or vladimir vladimirovich putin, there is no constant talk about this de-escalation in escalation. now everything that

is happening there is a big difference between the people of the country and between the government of the country. i understand that there is a difference between the people and the government, but at the same time, the same government, for example, a very bad government, somewhere it does something specific. but in the end, for distribution, maybe to get this very people and it turns out. i say, again some vicious circle. and we look we have already reached. how seriously do we say that the lottery, that all these steps can lead to either red or blue? well, who can give 100? one hundred percent guarantee that no one will really be this red, and yet no one hits the brakes. this is just incredible that there is no need to make a difference between the government people. in our country, even there in 1941, our army was very surprised when it turned out that the workers and peasants in gray overcoats were fighting against her, they were german for her. we're going to take a break now and come back to this studio in just a

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