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climb into the cauldron, the city is surrounded, street battles are going on in the very center, this was stated in the people's militia of the lpr. in kiev, they were forced to admit that the state of deplorable situation at the front, terrible prayer , they endure us with long-range means, and we are the front line of the doula, and we are the front line more on it, and we still have nothing to put a nasty act against the backdrop of continuous failures. at the front, a split in the leadership of ukraine is intensifying. donetsk so that they do not fall into the boiler, but president zelensky's advisers demanded to fight to the death the confrontation between the military and politicians. standing out in the arrest of one of the ukrainian commanders, sergei labko, they came for him immediately after his interview with american journalists with a story of distress . our command does not take any responsibility. they take credit only for our achievements. they don't give us
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any support. we sleep in the basement on mattresses, and rats run around the last weeks the situation deteriorated significantly when supply chains were interrupted we had to make do with one potato a day in the west. it seems that after all, they are more inclined to trust the ukrainian military, so the commander-in-chief of the all-out zaluzhny time magazine included in the list of the 100 most influential people of the year. the generals devoted a forest article, and in a video dedicated to the nominees. he beat zelensky himself in the midst of this chaos, the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, valeriy zaluzhny, proved himself to be the military mind his country needed his writings will remain in history andrey vladimirovich every time you appear in the studio after a week's absence. we're counting on some insight that you dug up your friends out there in the
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trenches. can you ah confirm hmm that there is some kind of conflict between the political and military leadership of ukraine if yes, then this is how it all can develop disagreements, for now. uh, because indeed zelensky's office is now recognizing. uh, an extremely difficult position for the apu grouping. and ah question lies in the fact that the proposal that was earlier about how to carry out an operation to unblock er, a group of groupings. e, su. it is impossible in donbass. this operation is not possible. it was recognized from this point of view as well. uh, the position laid down is that we need to conserve the strength of the apu. we really need to get away from a number of positions and exclude this complete encirclement. but he doesn’t allow it, that i don’t recommend it to him, conditionally speaking,
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they can’t forbid him, but the questions are that a little bit strange. if they have hostages there, let's say, zelensky is the supreme commander-in-chief , what does that mean, i recommend you i don't recommend it, right? that's an order. yes, like ours, when putin said, and this must be done zelensky as a commander. he does not play the role of a commander in ours. well, then who is to recommend falsely, maybe so that he does not fall out, he cannot force him. this is the situation, of course, but it is complicated by the fact that m, and now a it is the donbass that is becoming decisive. that's how the fate of everything in the donbass, uh, will be decisive in general for the whole consequences there were rumors. that there is some kind of conspiracy that is laid down, zelensky can be completely removed. no, this is absolutely not true. this is
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indeed not true, the whole story about the arrest and so on comes up in the press even the story about the disagreement between the generals and the man of the president of the commander-in-chief. it means that it's actually already on fire, because if it was just some little touches here, we would n't know about it. they would write two telegrams of the channel for 2 weeks the army is already writing. so or otherwise, led by generals led by a narrowed president, they are unhappy with what the president tells them to do - this is the fulfillment of his political stories, which, in general, are far from military history. you say there is no confrontation. it is in public condition. no, there are disagreements, because how the forecast works further is usually always called the date, time, never what to do next, because even for zelensky, fate is high. this is a turning point, because his future will depend on it. that's why
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he doesn't want to get it. i also spoke in a hypothetical plan and i am ready to confirm this, that they also said that our military professionals highly appreciate what was laid down. yes? yes, especially after the first phase of the operation and the organization of this very tactic, it is considered that this is, as it were, his creativity along with american advisers. she was quite successful. that's why yes, why if he has achieved some success in the first stage? why don't they listen to him now then no one listens to him. well his superiors then who is zelensky, if he says that he needs to leave, they can’t do it, everything really functions differently, there are political verticals. there are military verticals, they do not close at the top, as we do. that is. uh, the executive branch, the legislative branch and the military branch. they have it all differently, so the subordinates are laid down. so they just listen to him, but uh , in order to give. cus, for example, about the withdrawal of wax
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troops from severodonetsk, it was laid down. he can’t do it alone, because there is still exhaust commanding minister of defense. he is really behind him is engaged in a technical solution. by the way, this is also a political decision, that he cannot agree that it is strange if you wait for him. well, if a person says everything himself, he understands his profession in military affairs, he made some decisions there correctly. let with the help of the americans then wrong, but the asset means a political decision. if we forget that a citizen of russia is interested in the speedy completion of the victorious. it's this company, yes, then i would say that it the decision is absolutely reasonable, because it was necessary from the future. so yes, withdraw troops to the next line. she they have the funniest thing is coma uh-huh, and there. concentrate a large
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grouping in order to catch up there, that this political decision of ir, it e condemns to a military failure. in what space and blame and eliminate opponents? no, well, there is something else here, because this is a political decision with public opinion if the ukrainian army retreats. how to explain this is common, like an evacuation icon explained, well, they came up with yeah, they are there, and how to explain, it was one thing. yes, it already turns out, as in a few weeks, hold on to me, damn it, if you are so worried about spare parts, and how never to explain how they will then explain public opinion. a few weeks later, this group is no more. yes, yesterday we talked about how this grouping has practically reached voronezh and is already threatening. now go more of it. no. here, otherwise, they will simply hope for armament for help, for diplo. somehow
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contributes from the state, it does not decide tactical steps. right now, you just have to stand and stand and stand. that's all, the dependent has something else. they had, as for the image story, we look at how it happened in mariupol when for a number of weeks, and kiev was talking about the fact that heroes are fighting there to the last drop of blood, uh, hero heroes who are ready to give their lives for ukraine, this story was brought to all media platforms of the world. there were meetings of the wives of fighters with the pope with others who there was an extraction craft, and here is the story of how a boiler can develop on one side. well, this cauldron will not be one day. and probably not a single week will take some time, and at this time you can constantly say that there is fighting to the last drop of blood. eh, the heroes of this story for kiev can be more beautiful than just. which which was the capital of the remnant yes
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, present your heroes for slaughter or for surrender . call it even an evacuation, even a trip to the canary islands. i don’t know how these heroes are with you, then it will end and the legends around mariupol have been mentioned, we will just show a little bit now how ukrainian propaganda is now using mariupol and spawning fakes around it. this means that the current fake in russia is specially assembled by a certain detachment of an atomic pathologist, who should immediately go to mariupol. here the russians bring the bodies, the dead of which were washed in an attempt to restore water supply and partially exhumed. they just dump it like trash. a catastrophic shortage of people for burial and power even improvised by morgan to such an extent that in moscow they started a separate recruiting company for a pathologist recruiting company, then it was the acting adviser to the head of mariupol
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or the ukrainian adviser to the head. yes. yes, yes, yes, all of ukraine, yes, yes, you will finish. what else is noticeable. so i carefully watched, then, how uh changed, narf changed in the western and uh such russian-speaking opposition. media i looked, for example, at what material the pentagon newspaper came out with. this is such a newspaper american military. and there appeared a few days in the last few days an article that she also tolerates such a name kiev. e suffers serious losses, and asking for help from the united states, that is, this one, is enthusiastically built on the fact that ukraine is winning. here, then, it means that a victory over russia will be won. this tone has already begun to change. similarly, in some russian foreign ones, such as jellyfish, they also appeared.
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literally this weekend. i watched two articles at once about ukraine suffering serious defeat in the donbass ah. ukraine kiev is afraid of a further advance of the russian army. that is, this one, ah, that tone that was preserved for three months ago in the west, he er, it changes, what this and this leads to those conflicts that we are talking about now, because , of course, the more difficult the situation becomes . the less enthusiasm, the less faith, in some kind of victory or some kind of positive decision for ukraine the more shelves in the bank will fight each other uh, this is quite obvious and the further this story will continue. the further the russian army advances, the more we will hear about conflicts between the political and military, the component in ukraine between themselves and the military between various political forces. this is logical. well, here everyone has already noted that zelensky has his own goals, they are political, partly informational, psychological, laid down by
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their own laid down purely military e. reason to use this company in the western media in order to look for, see how much blood, what losses we are suffering. we need more technology. need more support more money. we need a no-fly zone. here is what we discussed in uh, chickens, we need heavy weapons there, and not in quantity, there are four howitzers m3 777, and there they need 2.000 and so on they pursue political goals. saves in life trying to at least grow. my confrontation between this will go straight anti-rejection, which is only if it is decided in the west, it reminds me of the situation in south vietnam when the president was good. he brought the country to a boil, so to speak, and at certain points the americans. they said that a group of generals overthrew him along with his family. he was killed and taken to power. they brought in another president, there is no interest in removing zelensky. zelensky is quite satisfied in the
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form in which he is. both the west and all the rest are there ; such a scheme can happen, and the ukrainian the army is defeated in the donbass, after which the commander-in-chief, dissatisfied with the president , is replaced by all failures. yes, it's ok in the beginning. here is the plot of some new general and that's it. we will be fine. and who was it to change ? to whom to write off the situations when they didn’t write horses then , they didn’t write zaluzhny now. azov steel. why was it first of all removed then it was laid down, let ’s then now andrey vladimirovich told that it’s not true with the arrest officer. wow what a lie. this is some kind of epithet we had such amusing. and this is the change in the narrative. yes, that is, here are the keys or, as we say, mussels, modalities, yes, yes, you are scolding me for the case. yes, and you scold me for the case, but you yourself do not speak modally with the case. lavrov says the track. so
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if lavrov speaks a normal word, he knows other words. it’s also wonderful, so let’s talk about aristovich. let's see now that i've been kicked out of the president's office. i got a job at a gas station and consider myself a happy person, because at this time not everyone can find a job. thank you for your attention, arrest jokes . ukrainians are getting more and more annoyed by the fact that the heads of the presidential office are rushing to call one of the last tricks of praise a zarada. water to the russian army, then how it seized to show that it’s still right there complete the operation, and this shows, in principle, the increased level of operational management and tactical skill of the russian army, which aristovich has certainly grown, and in ukraine have already been opened called a traitor, and the mayor of dnepropetrovsk in an angry rebuke gave kiev adviser a new nickname. just a couple of weeks ago, the talking ass of the president's office by the name of
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arrestovich, in a curt voice, told the ladies of balzac's age that the war would soon end. yes, we responded by throwing a worm into the air. today, the talking ass reported that the situation. i can’t understand what kind of ben arrestovich praises the level of russian commanders, who, as it were, grew up and sort of took their heads, is he a football commentator or an independent military expert that aristovich frankly a pro-russian position and he must be driven out of kiev with a filthy broom a year ago, the main ukrainian propagandist dmitry gordon said, i believe that you, alex, are a swindler. i think that, uh, it's a shame for ukraine when such people, how do you find yourself on the verge of making the most important decisions for ukraine? yes, i have no comments. so andrey nikolayevich in general, as
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for arrestovich, a few years ago , many forgot, he had a session of self-payment, to whom he told already in 2014. he deliberately he lied about the events at the front, posing as a figure who owns something, but in fact, not so long ago, he explained that this is a national idea, like, as much as possible, otherwise it’s all yours. why , in that revelation, when he had not yet worked for zelensky, he directly said that both ukrainian nationalism and ukraine as a whole were deeply on the drums for him. this man is on a salary who earns what he is actually offered. wait does that mean him now? and if he pays and says what you need uh, advised to talk about the terrible situation. i don't even admit that in this case it is improvised independently. uh-huh , and a person who, with any power, can stay afloat. surprisingly. as far as things are concerned, they usually arrest you absolutely understand, mr. arrestovich, who, on a serious basis, is somewhere under a willow here. in a certain situation, he meets
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russian flags. it's easy with russian tanks with a georgian ribbon. this man is an absolutely unprincipled worker exclusively on themselves those who say they work for zelensky or for someone else. this is complete nonsense, absolutely andrey nikolaevich, but the fact that the other speaking loin part of the ukrainian dmitry gordon, i mean, has now begun to attack on the arrest. and as we are now everything is fine. it was 21 years old. now yes? ok then. everything, then, you will do, influence and the audience for which they work. in fact, people who are not corrupt in this party. just no, it all depends. let's clarify one simple thing, aristovich is not an employee of the administration, adviser office. well, first of all, the money. he doesn't get there and against, uh, money. no, his money is elsewhere. well, he pays and so on and so forth,
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yes, and he really is all the man who has to provoke society with money. sorry, i never get paid enough. no, i'm only talking about strangers. well, there are, uh, funds, certain administrations of the russian president , but, in fact, he is being paid by the same state. just not from the bank street pocket, but from the other side, where you can bring more people, which why the security service of ukraine why something like ours. sorry some russian politicians provoke. well, they will not name names, and some are already interested. this is his task, his task is to call a certain one. fito is his task, he is why he goes for such things, and this is good, then he is played with by the authorities, which is good. how is it what use? it's that information, then the situation is convenient, because i'm sorry we have
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15 nato itself in 2 weeks and that, uh, that has to say so. from today's point of view about it they didn’t want to, but it’s like an oil bardarga without e oil, which goes through labor. yes, there are a lot of things without you, the sixth package. this damned final summit started today. tomorrow will arrive, the sixth package. everything is not always, inga without oil. yes, by order of adriano and that's it, quietly, by order of some kind of state or semi -state ukrainian structures, because it can somehow be used for the authorities to win back. all these statements, unlike my colleagues, i absolutely do not believe, but in any kind of democratic mechanisms ukrainian or in general, well, in general, ukrainians are democracies. they always
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said there, since we are talking about ukraine , ukrainians in particular, and i especially don’t believe in these democratic mechanisms in the conditions of war, the situation in ukraine, from my point of view, is not very good. i’ll say it neatly. under these conditions, the decision should be made by the military and only the military. yeah, all sorts of talk about the fact that we are now organizing a cauldron and under this we will receive another portion of weapons. well, from my point of view. well , i agree, which amuses me all the time when they talk about ukraine for long e time periods. this is her amazing poly similarity to poland and of all time. i can bring a huge number of parallels with polish history, including political military one, which always ended badly for poland, and ukraine
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absolutely copies these things. well, the last moment. uh, so there is a rather long anecdote, uh, in which a ukrainian is characterized as follows by three ukrainians - this is a partisan detachment and a change of uh-huh. here they always have this, that's all the porridge it is brewed. and this, after all. ah, it has failed and failed many times. poland is currently threatening ukraine, from my point of view, it is expanding most of all to transfer a partisan detachment and a traitor, then to a traitor. here, while petro poroshenko is coming up, he is changing. actually this article. he's the one who now came from, yes, which, as far as i understand. yes, he is after he was not released twice. sorry, we run ahead. after the second time, he turned publicly to zelensky and he has now been released, nevertheless. let us now we’ll tell the story, because now we’ll also focus on petro poroshenko such democratic political efforts, to
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neutralize him over the weekend, the former president of ukraine petro poroshenko tried to leave the country twice both times and he was deployed at the same border crossing rava russian poroshenko scandal demanded to skip he was shaken to poland in front of the border guards with documents, they say. he does not emigrate, but goes to a meeting of the nato parliamentary assembly on behalf of the speaker of the verkhovna rada i received a call from the people's deputies of european solidarity who were with petro poroshenko at the rava russkaya crossing point and told me what kind of armageddon had happened there, that allegedly at the border they were talking about his separate or canceled order to leave ukraine for the third time poroshenko still managed to report it his fellow party members have problems at the border. it was not without reason that the former president arose in front of pyotr alekseevich, the prospects of ending up in a prison sitting behind the walls loomed sbu viktor medvedchuk is now testifying about the connections of the former president with the occupiers. courts,
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prosecutor's office antimonopoly committee state property fund. they all made a decision. naturally necessary for the personal interests of president poroshenko, the case against the ex-president of coal schemes for the purchase of coal from 2014 to 2019 in the lpr also remains open. and the dpr threatens all this with accusations of state knowledge. and the sbu is already summoning for interrogation the once top officials of ukrainian politics, avakov, yatsenyuk. and turchinov. while they are all witnesses. igor sergeevich such an attack on poroshenko right now and this fear. again , my version. maybe i'm wrong that mr. poroshenko in a couple of weeks or months there, he can organize some kind of i don't know people's revolt. if it's so rude to say. zelensky or do n't they smell like that here? i believe that it is the first that zelensky is really afraid of, because a very precise wording of a spider in a jar was heard here. this is not an image. this is exactly
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the class characteristic. why were they released abroad? put him in a jar, release him there 130, if i remember correctly, there are a lot of criminal cases against him. so you need to take into account the specifics of this audience for all of them and poroshenko and zelensky turchinov and so on. there is nothing to do with ukraine and they are only interested in personal well-being; the authorities in ukraine give huge money. and now zelensky is well aware that in conditions when serious difficulties have appeared at the front. this public may have a desire to sweep him away, how you do not cope with your duties and take his place to use tech the most dissatisfied military or anyone, moreover , both avaks and poroshenko are closely connected with the nazis, this threat is real for zelensky, he does not want to lose his post, but it is at the
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same time a threat for the united states that the united states. the coup in ukraine is now not beneficial in any way, respectively, zelensky is now allowed to spin all these cases of cattail treason, and so on, the main thing for them is to suppress. if they understand that poroshenko has realized and will not try to arrange a coup d'etat, he will not they'll put you in jail. andrey in the program what is wrong, what is not so very simple poroshenko now in ukraine no longer plays any role. they don't play anything there. he no longer has anything he has no party anything avaha is another matter. uh, poroshenko is generally a decommissioned figure. therefore, we have no one for several months . i understand. i understand that now everyone has rallied conditionally around the commanders-in-chief. in a few months, when this unity will come up against realities at the front. and this cohesion will obviously go down. and zelensky will become in the eyes of the people
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the person who brought the country to such a state peter pops up here, of course, it’s very convenient to take the country in bright herring in ukraine will no longer pop up. you must understand this, firstly, there is such a criminal, firstly, for such an audience. but for that they are worth nothing, he was just released to holland for the uh congress of the european people's party. he will come back thwarted. he will return and so on, a person who can now determine something in ukraine and moreover, but zelensky is counting on the fact that through for about two months the military situation will change in his favor, and then it’s even more to learn not in his favor, then. uh, that's why poroshenko is trying to get in. because if she changes. in favor of the piece of iron not in favor of ukraine, then the political situation, the political development of ukraine will also change rapidly. this is the same thing for you, how strange it is, you spent. yes, i also disagree here that the
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benefit of zelensky is the benefit of ukraine in the other direction. looked here. let's get into what not zelensky is afraid of something, but takes advantage of the collaborative situation. if you look at ukrainian politics, then everyone who gets to the top, one way or another, tries to destroy all political opponents in the received card balance. that is why yanukovych did what he did in jailing moshenko, therefore, in fact, poroshenko acted as he did here the situation is different in that zelensky is just a pocket, we are telling zelensky to remove the coup. so it's impossible. you see the united states has the main card here, they have promoted it to the whole world, it is the face of ukraine . still, i say it again. interesting, because i have already sharpened his face, and it is now , as it were, advantageous, until they lose it, which he means, here zelensky zelensky understands that the level of support that he has now will never be and he will retain power, then not
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save. you never know what will happen, but now there is also a medial opportunity, despite the fact that no one will interfere with you to completely clean up the political field of ukraine yes, that is, no such a few years ago they tried to squeeze him abroad so that he would stay there forever and leave the political field ukraine political death. poroshenko that he admitted that he is a political migrant being persecuted, he will not return to ukraine, it is obvious that now he is probably released with the same goals, but i , like andrei, i do not believe in a strong contradiction between tinned and zelensky, they play a common game; they just have such an informational background. is this such a game now, uh, well-deserved or did you mean poroshenko and say? i already being zelensky plays a common game and poroshenko, too, in principle, they talk about a common game. yes, everyone is talking about it. i mean , uh, it's a deal. they agreed among themselves in this situation that poroshenko is in danger, because the temptation to put him in jail is real if there are wars, if you agree with alexandra nikolaevich with
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an anecdote carried out by him, and i am inclined to agree that there, of course, there are no agreements, there really everyone blows his spirit for himself . we can agree. here, let me out. i will no longer claim power. anatolyevich well, since we still somehow correlate political intrigues in kiev with the military situation. and now it turns out. yes, and it's inevitable. i wanted to give a short so we'll be leaving short e’s commentary on the situation in severodonetsk and why he leaves zelensky’s position, but i understand the military there that this is a cauldron and this is either surrender or death and the same story twice. it just doesn't work at all. and it is also anti-history, that is, history and the sea. he
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cannot repeat. it must be severodonetsk. completely different. that is, they must die heroically there to create a myth well done bogdan is therefore uh. there is one m-th detail that mariupol did not have between severodonetsk moli now in the industrial zone, which is the chemical center of eastern ukraine, there is a huge number of pesticides, and therefore a boiler is not a boiler, it can kill everyone. to date, i have noticed all these terrible pictures when orange smoke rises in an open field. it was pure demonstration. we can, like this, not a single side gasped, or bombed with a burial site of poisonous chemicals, not a single one. note. as well as the fighting goes through the pipe. and not a single bullet hits the pipe. that is, there are some agreements, all the same, there are either no agreements, or generally everyone understands that if giraffes store poisons with chemicals die, there
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will be no winners. and so it would be beautiful of course. russia gasped, it rises through the storage facilities, a poisonous cloud dies all the heroic ukrainians. all, then, disgusting russian soldiers, and all civilians are a completely different case. it's almost a victory and can you imagine what a reason to ask for that assistance in intervening in all this supply of 300 odd. special costumes for chemical warfare, we then noted. what are they needed for? here are some goodies, let's get on with this topic then, here's the supply of military aid in a couple of minutes. i'm already
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instead, where everything becomes clear and we continue. let's just continue this topic of supplying european american weapons to ukraine . he is somehow at the very least, there goes something that physically it really already appears on the territory of ukraine, thank god, we are already, in general, not bad, we have learned to find and destroy. here, mostly from the americans. there most of all at the level of promises. that is, it is not clear when all this will come there, but the ukrainians do not criticize the americans for this, but the germans, of course, get it in full . such an impression. it turns out that kiev considers, uh, the germans the main culprits. here are their failures, that the germans are deliberately dragging out this process themselves, supplying nothing to others give, but about that. here and uh, the german press and not only wrote german, all the last days. give the material there, please. according to the publication veld armzon, since the end of march, germany has practically curtailed the supply of weapons to ukraine in berlin , they explained that they could not send everything that kiev
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asks for, and also referred to the fact that the ukrainian military was not trained in management heavy weapons, in particular self-propelled howitzers. this requires training, while ukraine itself says that for this its soldiers need a full period of training. germany will deliver soon. these are weapons to ukraine. so the point is not at all that germany does not supply anything or delivers too little, it is true that berlin cannot fulfill all the wishes of ukraine, this creates a certain tension in the fact that germany's capabilities in supplying weapons to ukraine are practically exhausted back in chancellor scholz admitted in april, but kiev continues to put pressure on the germans, the infamous ukrainian ambassador melnyk ridiculed the situation with the supply of weapons last week, published a picture on social networks snails, glued cartridge, and then urged berlin to follow the example of the european allies. we do not
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know why germany does not supply weapons as quickly as other countries repeatedly refer to nato partners, i can only say that the howitzers that we received from france and even from italy have long been on the front lines, and the seven self-propelled howitzers that germany promised us we'll get it. perhaps a month later, the difference in this is that vladimir putin warned about the danger of pumping ukraine with weapons over the weekend during the first the last 2 months of a telephone conversation with schultz and french president macron. the publication of the politician writes that the scholtsy. he himself is in no hurry to send heavy weapons to kiev and concludes that germany cannot help ukraine win? it is unlikely that scholz will approve the delivery of marder armored personnel carriers or leopard tanks to ukraine in the near future, unless the decision of the united states or other allies, and the supply of modern western tanks, forces him to change course in other
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words, if it concerns a real victory in war ukraine should not look at berlin the same as you think, is germany somehow not very active compared to its allies, well, partly not very active. yes, but within the framework of its ability to be active, why then the ukrainians. it is precisely the germans that are so unhappy, because, on the one hand, germany is the flagship of the european union and always germany. yes, this means putting pressure on, uh, the entire european union and even, by the way, the allies of the fans, because they showed it. here germany does not give anything, and then conscience can the slovak french will wake up at the chekhovs. come out victor is a schizophre, what, and when your conscience wakes up, what will happen? well, for example, we will supply self-propelled guns at the beginning, we will substitute data, so what is now
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appearing in the media is yes, that is, wait, maybe in germany then it’s you somehow and wants you to have it there . as you say, conscience will wake up, you will deliver, then you will be responsible for this, and the germans will remain on the sidelines to clean, by the way, the second factor about germany is now also their voters destroyed want to stay in power. and the war game is still not popular for the european. so, you don’t allow the idea that the germans just don’t want to, they just don’t want to send at the same time, they must come up with some arguments to speak. yes? that's right, the second time right? this is the third time. tell me, the third factor of history. yes, of course, the germans are not comfortable delivering. it seems to me that this is already here. no, no, it's purely money collected. no, they don't want to ship. there is such an idea, it is actually already in some european speeches, politicians sounds. uh, when they say, what if
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we have to defend ourselves, and the conversation is here, what is all the supply of heavy weapons to ukraine from europe of the united states comes from a speculative example that at some point ukraine will win, but ukraine will win victory , it is assumed that russia will not use all available means to prevent this scenario, but this is where the bluff story comes in, because no one knows, actually. is she ready to go to moscow to the end? and then the question arises. and what, really, if there is a danger from sliding into a more serious conflict, it will arise and how forgive you will fight back, and then you will excuse me, but the weapons that have already been delivered to ukraine. but where it is used according to the latest data, for example, american howitzers are seen in the shelling of donetsk, that is, they are engaged not in order to fight the troops, but in order to shell the civilian population. what is it gives military returns? yes, none. and by the way, the weapon that came from the javelins of the bayacter. they somehow changed the situation at the front. and there should have been a lot of stories, so
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you can stuff a lot of weapons there, and get as a result not only a zero result, but this result is negative, when excuse me, before the countries of europe you will become a question. and what are we going to defend ourselves with now, after having angered one very serious country , namely the macron scholls. uh, most often lead negotiations with putin the fact is that they understand, of course, that any conflict is military, when you end up with negotiations and it is clear that from the west, these negotiations are most likely to be conducted by the leaders of france germany therefore, from this point of view. uh, germany's position is also understandable. and if they keep, at least the appearance that they are not in everything, but will melt to kiev that they do not supply everything that such people require. uh, of course, this may, from their point of view, contribute to some more significant role in the negotiation process, moreover, ukraine in the person of ambassador melnyk and not only in
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his person. frankly, it goes too far that they allow themselves to address both the german chancellor and the german leadership as a whole does not contribute to its implementation, but their wishes and not only these tweets are posts that the ukrainian embassy in e. in berlin, er, constantly gives out other comments on the statements of ukrainian officials. all this is not good, it suits them at some point. they are still fucking another story which i cannot explain to myself. why do they do it then? the rubric is wrong. well, not really . so, first of all, as far as germany is concerned, germany supplies weapons. this time delivers artillery shells, and so on, the most important thing is that in 16 in 12 days ukraine will receive 12 e no correctly on june 10. excuse me, i’ll tell you now, that is, 12, but self-propelled heavy
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howitzers and a, which, uh, with a distance of 40 km and a rather large collapsing force. that is, it is germany that supplies this nobody, this is sivkov he would said that 12 howitzers is in relation to the situation. at the front. complete nonsense. quite a lot in fact, because if you leave those howitzers, of course, then you can really inflict asking the enemy for a bigger role. yes , secondly, i'm a little wrong. the fact is that just over the past 3 months there have been more than 100. ukrainian military personnel have completed a full training program, which i like with you. this is such an absolute hmm freedom from uh, don't don't know from cringing. you criticize everyone directly. i just want to say that he is not only habyk
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there is the minister of economy. and what's the protection? he generally sees the chancellor, that is, the way out. so what, that is, you don't know what. here you know a person for quite a few years, so i treat him in my own way. what is the level of casualties in vain daily military personnel. now you know what about 200-300 people. this is at least three times less than three times less than what you are now saying, this is, firstly, even according to the indication of vsu. this time. secondly, with such a loss, you want to say that you are serving them, it changes the situation to seriously, no one has prepared prepared for 8 years. well, you really are, well, they are working with german howitzers, the americans will begin supplying american missiles on june 16, e missile systems, the hall of fire, so it's all the same. the main thing is that only
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the zelensky newspaper a few days ago said that the losses of the apu were 50-100 people. you are now talking 200-300 persons question which one of you is wrong in the last days? losses vsu, sharply got out. let's go next. let's take a look at the contradictions within our own world. we generally started talk about the fact that turkey is blocking the entry of sweden and finland well, actually, so far all this is not allowed. turkey stands its ground. last week, nato secretary general jens stoltenberg, norwegian, scorning scandinavian solidarity, sided with turkey when discussing membership in finland and sweden . you have to
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solve it, this is how it has always been done. the chinese edition of the global times saw turkish dimash. signs big nato split comrades, they say, is gone, consent and will only get worse. nato asks its members to obey washington's confrontation from moscow, while ignoring the interests of the participating countries themselves. this further exacerbates the contradiction between the political forces within europe, alexander nikolayevich, and all this will continue to grow, probably, the thing is that, well, first of all, a few words about germany . i am in correspondence with some german comrades. but comrades they hope more more professional than we are friends of political positions, they characterize a certain mood in german society. so this is the mood of german society. eh, everything is wonderful, of course, but under no
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circumstances do we ever want to fight with anyone and i suspect that this is not only a german, but also a broader european point of view, what did i say? yes , well, therefore, they will supply something, but vvya. seriously and vserё quarrel with russia moreover, no one wants to risk an armed conflict. this is how i would characterize it from the point of view of ukraine. these are three words long ago spoken by nicholas ii, treason rubs everywhere. now , with regard to nato as a whole, well, my point of view. and of course, what would have to give. e these same kurds. eh, to hell with it, the broad soul is also a problem if turkey agreed to this, but er, again, democratic mechanisms and all kinds of warnings of this kind, they prevent this. well, the third point.
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eh, definitely. we have seen this in iraq. we we saw it on the example of afghanistan. and now we also see it, and nato's efforts in relation to countries are not, but always cause such an explosion of national interests. well, like the americans do, but why do we need all this often? igor sergeevich what about unity and national interests. we are told a lot that the americans forced this to be completely unprofitable for europeans. they don't want this . no-no-no, there is no other desire for the unity of the west was and still is. it's only now starting to crack. and this unity secured than hopes on the colossal booty after the crushing of russia as they had after the crushing of the soviet union we all put pressure on russia with the west, it will not stand it they
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believed, therefore there was unity. now they are beginning to understand that it smells like kerosene. excuse the expression that there will be no victory moscow will not break, which means that if the escalation continues, as the americans and the british want, then those who are no longer russia and there is no russia for ukraine will not do it either, they themselves will suffer, they want don't want to get hurt respectively. it is this public that is now beginning to advocate for negotiations, and is beginning to say that let's sacrifice a trifle. well, there we will accept part of the territory of ukraine that it will lose, we will save. at least something from the acquisition of the ninety-first year and fix. uh, on this situation, what kissinger proposed, what was proposed by a number of other americans. what do you think, is it the americans who do not give the go-ahead to this, or to europe, we no longer agree to this. here they are calling. listen to vladimir, come on, come on. here
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uh, don't give it, judging by the way the information is going. we do not agree to this, because why did we shed blood in order to be presented to them. let me remind you that this is in the political logic of vladimir vladimirovich putin and everyone in the west knows about it. every next sentence. the previous ones ignored are tougher and stronger. so here is kissinger, the italian government, which is starting to talk about some kind of negotiations. there's some kind of compromise, they respond to the offer made in december last year. guys, let's go. we now have summer 22. and therefore, of course, we do not agree to a third conversation, the end of special dangers. and one more. they want to talk. well, you know, i'm here when i listen, natyavka, not here. e. miller zelensky, how they
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wipe their feet, and 10 years ago, the movement of merkel’s eyebrow, e.g., drove the entire ukrainian establishment under the bench. and now they are like you know who they are, that i remember. eh, here we are, we are such decent people, two hulks come to us. ambals with him are small shkid ambals, such large. we’re sitting with you, and an imaginary situation spoils the small kid, he spits on all of our shoes in the face, he calls names, but since he himself is a ball, but you have to kind of endure, and then the kingpin went on the next trip, and the shteta stayed here. you aleksandrovich yes, the fact is that i never look. i imagine that even the word ukraine will evoke madness. actually about it now. i forgot, in my opinion, it's in italian in this newspaper that there are no ambals there, but there was such a one, which
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means that the analogy of ukraine behaves like a poor a relative from the province who came, he was not there for 100 years. and then he appeared, and he comes to the city to his relatives. well, who live well there and who are ready to help him in some way to arrange some money for him to work there . but this relative he begins to do. that's what you say, plot harp. well listen, well nothing new. when, in my opinion, you wrote about it there. and that europe is starting to get tired of this, because not only does he mean himself, he behaves boorishly. he is there insulting and he demands more and more, and now they don’t really understand. and what about him? why? he's like a relative, you know? yes, yes, not in relation to ukraine. it’s not about how the west assessed ukraine and ukrainians, ukrainians can treat the same way as russians or in some other way
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. the thing is that they see, uh, in the very the state itself in ukraine, a modern ram against russia is the main task that is set for ukraine, this is the value that they betray to ukrainians and ukraine, it is connected with their confrontation with russia is not some special separate value for the smell. and so, while they will be able to. as long as russia will be an enemy for them, as long as they strive for the goal of the donkey. russia or they will destroy it. and until ukraine stuffs it with weapons, again, we will return to the air for a small pause of two minutes . before his death, the father shocked his son when he said that he needed to find a twin sister , he tells me that i have a twin. my sister's name is oksana, mom says you're the only one and a late child, but before her death, the mother confessed that her son was not taken from the orphanage. we
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russian billionaires suffer humiliation, but sit in their london mansions, the government will finally crack down on the property of putin's friends in the uk as corrupt artists rushed to defend their sponsor abramovich this is a man who has been supporting modern art for a very long time and how much indulgences will cost for russian oligarchs west, the oligarchs behaved differently conclusions will draw when the win about it right now. and this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear and we continue to return to the topic again. here is the definition of a civil position here in our country inside different, as it were, public spheres. we touched on how it turns out that, of course, we are mainly talking about representatives of creative
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professions about cultural figures. well, yes, they are. it's not about what is more noticeable. well, somehow they are traditionally inclined to listen. but those whom we have called oligarchs. there businessmen waddle does not apply, businessman. yes, the oligarch is not. here, well, they remember how putin even admitted that well, the connotation is not very good. it’s like this very rich man, they still think a little about him that he is a swindler somewhere, he stole something there boris borisovich, it’s hard to blame you, because you couldn’t even do anything right from the front and live here, like this is where your yacht is, like a bum practically. that is, let's talk today. here's about our a-a big businessmen about their position. well, let's start, probably, with the most striking examples. this is the story of peter avian and mikhail fridman. we had it last week. i’m getting ahead of myself and mentioned that they were forced to
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pay money to ukraine there, but the sanctions were never lifted. well, let's get a little more specific. russian alpha males shed the most tears, mikhail fridman and pyotr equal immediately after the start of the special operation. they fell under the most severe sanctions of great britain and, by their own admission, their lives became literally unbearable. will i be able to afford to pay for a cleaning lady or a driver, i don’t drive myself, maybe it’s my turn to drive, we don’t understand how to survive, and friedman’s faults are trying to unfreeze their funds and real estate by any means. they have already criticized the kremlin and then sent as much as 150 million euros to the ukraine assistance fund, the chief rabbi said. ukraine yakovlev but not there it was the british authorities. not only did they not unfreeze capitals and arrested works of art, but they also left them to live billionaire with only 2,500 pounds. british electricians,
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nurses and teachers earn about the same amount per month. the british authorities refused to lift sanctions against mikhail fridman and petr aven, who donated 150 million euros to ukraine, they allegedly agreed on this with london in advance, but the british side refused to fulfill their promise sterling in cash and opened a criminal case. however. maybe peter is still prefers not to look at the price tags for a very long time. i think that all the money of the nineties 25 years ago does not stop complaining to british journalists about their plight and mikhail fridman's card is blocked. i couldn't get money. i didn't expect you to tell me on camera. but i think that a billionaire must have access to money somewhere. no, no, that's why i'm here, because i want to explain the sanctions against us
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injustice shamelessly. that's why, what we did wrong, besides doing business in russia, however, like his colleague avin friedman, suffers humiliation, but continues to live in britain his residence, which, according to the idea, can compete with versailles, friedman only repaired for 80 million pounds. this is almost 7 billion rubles. now british journalists are walking around friedman's property. another millionaire. he owns a conglomerate called letterwork. it's interesting to talk to us. anyone. i didn't expect the oligarchs to talk to me about the government. can finally deal with property druzhkov putin in the uk but is still unclear. will the mansion be confiscated and become housing for ukrainian refugees? so, igor vladimirovich, do you call these gentlemen? here i quote you from the previous vlasov traitors and their
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property should be transferred under the control of the state, of course, not too harshly, because they still remain citizens of russia . they seem to be from russian citizenship. they didn't refuse. we have no way to take away their citizenship. what else is wrong here? what problem? we can’t take them away, but they have citizenship of birth, but they don’t refuse, so, well, they are doing something so that we no longer count them as citizens of russia, pay attention. yes , we remember when it all started. we thought, but why did they stick to colleagues so -called. well, it seems that they even explained they think, supposedly. the west that that mother's access to putin has in the west, too, not quite idiots perfectly understood how the order in russia works, what exactly cannot call putin and say, come on. stop the war in ukraine here. well, what kind of russia right now, these businessmen, if i may say so, are creating for western business, because russia, the life of russia and the russian economy, and our lives will not end during a
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special military operation. not at the end of it. and then everything will also develop according to other laws, of course, but we will need investments. and we will need businessmen. here they show what cooperation with the russian government brings businessmen to. here's what really in fact, such was the thought, and they are in this game. as you say attention. it would be nice to sit and be silent. you said at the beginning that they are doing everything to somehow lose their russian citizenship, they want one. yes, there is no legal procedure, and you are investing in this, rather a punishment. here, give back the passports, and we are no longer friends, or you are investing in this more nationalization, firstly, that's all. just trying to understand the depth from strength to strength must be taken under control, it is signaled, probably at this stage. not there must be a physical opportunity to improve. you can give the opportunity to correct, but take control. states, and the procedure can be devised by the state, can hold an appropriate meeting and adopt a law on, in
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connection with a special military operation, buys all sorts of assets that are abandoned there and either i don’t know such assets that need to be saved there, according to what procedure they are not our russian property there, what there was a procedure absolutely simply decided to answer. if it will, well, someday, yes maybe , as for, as for the procedures, it's us we regard and quite rightly regard it as theft. yes, how to sit frosts, everything else, well, from the point of view of their national legislation. all these procedures. they were registered. on the basis of these legal procedures, and not this, they did it. the problem is that we will have such procedures in the legislation today . if indeed, it will appear another question, and the criminal case and confiscation of the whole hungry case should also be no, wait. let's not say a word. yes, such a procedure is necessary. let's, first of all, let's get all these comrades. also in three baskets, the first basket, the largest kudrin can call the first basket, the
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largest they left or there before that and they just lived until they return to russia, they don’t shine , they don’t cause any harm. this is their right. god bless them, the second basket. they begin to bargain for the lifting of sanctions, but not by some public actions or speeches against russia, but by transferring money, for example. here's my take on the situation. since all these people have someone else assets in russia have been preserved on i think on direct contact with the right people in the offices, they need to give a signal. if, for example, you send 100 million to some refugees of ukraine, then it will be good, please, with this one, then another 100 million. 300 or 300. send yes, the pressure of mariupol is the second group. and the third group is those people who are ready for the lifting of their sanctions, but for now i just don’t know such people, it’s ready. well , tinko. well, tinkoff he has nothing left in russia. as i understand it, but they could grab, that there are those who work against russia openly
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publicly signing lists come out this group. yes, there should be some measures against it, but what kind of nationalization measures will i say again, there will be some kind of legal scheme. why is it dangerous? because if we now do it without legal schemes, then all that real estate property that is frozen is the question. igor vladimirovich used the word traitors, boris vlasov and i think everyone is familiar, well, or with someone the same way as traitors to you. no, of course it was. so they in general, the least they think about is this war. in the sense of spending the nights there, for ukraine, for russia , they think, yes, they think it's a wallet, i would only say an important thing . there vlasovites and so on have absolutely different fates in these people, who are unfortunate
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people there. but there is absolutely no way to blame misha fridman for being putin's oligarch. he still would not have been any putin fridman was already fridman you see, in 90 these sanctions were against everyone putin's friends who were not in the nineties about zero tenths became oligs. the situation here is very simple, a million times i spoke very much about the fact that investing money in russia will take time. soak on the courts of dust to swallow proves that you are a good stand. wait mr. friedman is now saying i'm not to blame. i am the enemy in the war, of course, not to blame. why is it against me? no, they just warned him in moscow , nevertheless, despite the warning, he and many others of his money they took them out, they bought real estate, they set up a business there and worked there, we talked like a wedding, that's about the gentleman, avin, what and who? actually, he was prevented, uh, from doing all this of
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his activities. uh, here, of course, i mean, wait a minute. now they are humiliated there in every possible way , pressed down, but they still want to stay there. well , because they are physically safe there. here they can follow in the footsteps of khodorkovsky at zero seconds to get 10 years. for what? well, that is, i do not know up to this car. now what's the horror that is the situation, really. the horror, of course, began on february 24th. the horror is that when there is a war and the world is divided into friends and foes black and white everything is yes, yes. already here to try, who is to blame, who were right? they were for putin. they are not confusing no matter, they are russian russians get. tell me, yes, this is not the worst thing, the situation is useful, and at this age the worst thing is. i
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understand that, that is, we must stop the special operation, as always. yes, the point is that we put a seiman there. we father will not die of hunger. we have hundreds of thousands of entrepreneurs. it’s quite like ours, who have been building relations with europe for decades, our imports have fallen, eighty-nine percent is good, but at the same time, these are entrepreneurs. they do not see themselves without a country. they don't leave. they do not transfer money to the funds of ukrainian oligarchs. yes they are all these years 7 billion not castle in england in they are any penny they earned. they invested in the country arkadyevich abramovich, just in case , played a huge role in negotiations with ukraine, and so. as you guess. thank you civilian results. no,
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there is no black and white in business. that cannot be divided. here is a stranger, each of these businessmen has been running his own business for decades in russia , creating jobs. he only increased his company's capitalization throughout the year, there are alpha groups there - this is x5 retail group and pyaterochka is a bunch of stores. uh, where are a lot of jobs, they paid all their taxes from them with all their money, and believe me, far from all of them, uh, they took them abroad on their own there private accounts. there was a lot left in england. and what is called in russia and here they developed many projects and are developing to this day another question, that it was more comfortable for them to live in england so that the children study and so on and it is impossible to condemn my opinion. every businessman has the right to work remotely where he wants and where it is more convenient for him, does this mean that every businessman who has the right to live where he wants, and to achieve this goal, to live
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where he wants has the right to wipe his feet, while the russian flag is russian focused. we will now show some big businessmen. in the west, they are usually called garharki, and the western press relishes how many billions are there? are they lost? yes, they savor it and may be lost, but at the same time everything remains the same as it was before the 24th day. first, roman abramovich was humiliated in the story of the sale of a football club, chelsea's new owners are paying several billion pounds for him, but abramovich will not receive a penalty, then the authorities, the islands of jersey in the english channel , began an investigation to find out how legally his income, and they decided to dig deep
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until the very nineties, in order to find out how honestly then abramovich received dolly in oil companies. the oligarch built the russian oil company sibneft in the 1990s by acquiring it from the russian state in a controversial privatization process mr. abramovich's lawyers previously denied that the sibneft deal was corrupt, now abramovich is left with evraz's ural asset in russia. at the beginning of may, she came under british sanctions evraz, produces almost a third of all russian railway wheels and 97% of rail tracks in russia , athletes, artists and other figures, cultures sponsored by abramovich, even vladimir zelensky, in a conversation with joe biden, personally asked to lift sanctions from abramovich louder. kirill serebrennikov, the director, stood up for everyone for the patron. defended a businessman at a press conference in cannes where he presented
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his new film this man who has been supporting contemporary art for a very long time. and he is c of the main patrons of e-e art, which, by the way, the official authorities in russia are not very fond of, despite the sanctions, russian millionaires are in no hurry to part with western assets, the newspaper version writes that 92% of the siberian coal company andrey melnichenko is still registered in cyprus, this despite the fact that melnichenko had already arrested in italy a yacht for half a billion euros went into the hands of the italians and the yacht of severstal shareholder alexei mordashov. lady m i here the property of the business, a similar story according to the press, there are still five cypriot offshore companies among the shareholders of severstal, do not rush to return assets to their homeland, and cypriot companies, according to newspapers, have earned more than 70 billion rubles from them. this is more than 9 billion rubles. taxes that could have ended up in the russian budget, but a similar businessman hopes that the conflict in ukraine will end and
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they will continue to live as before. answer the question about the introduction of eu sanctions against me to emphasize that i am far from politics and have created economic value all my life for the companies in which i worked in russia and abroad have absolutely nothing to do with the current geopolitical tensions, i don’t understand. why sanctions were imposed on me by andre arkach, this is also, using the expression to say that the vlasovites are a traitor, or here with each in their own way, look, firstly. so i understand the state of these people, now you live in versailles, the whole world is in front of you. you are the master of life and suddenly humiliation is searched. pay attention to 40,000 pounds found in the nose of any governor on searches. there, billions find a loud statement. yes, they were looking for anyone. yes, there was a datra of 500 million rubles. they found it under the bed and, of course, i don’t feel sorry for them, but he has a colossal
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collection. he did not keep billions of dollars in russia, they believe that this is probably an unsafe place, she was arrested. now it's for the collector. more. it's like his children are all very unpleasant. so you know, then they come here. here is my favorite now oleg deripaska here, he well done, by the way, he boldly came up with a program of economic reforms. very similar to mine, you dream of meeting her and talking heart to heart. here he is, well done, we'll choke under the shower. yes , listen, i’m having a heart attack with you, businessman kovalev wants turtles horror, we just give a characterization of traitors to the authorities 100%. and if i were potanin, i would have issued tinkov to the bank for myself, but i would not have paid the money. it would be fair, but the money was transferred to help refugees. nasal
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events, but with those whom we call vlasov traitors again terminology. i am i say vladimirovich i really liked it. what are we doing nationalizing property depriving people of the opportunity to earn money or how it all should happen, because if you can stick this very tax, and then what to do if at least one unfriendly statement you somehow immediately collect everything. you have already started everything right away, wait a minute, degree i'm looking again. here is what alexey mordashov says. i am far from politics. all my life, it means that i was engaged in the creation of economic there. i have nothing to do with the emergence i have no geopolitical tensions. i don't understand about me. why are sanctions imposed? i just want to ask, that is, uh, this is when we talk about trying to understand, here, in general, a russian citizen. maybe such things to say now, guys. here, don't touch me. i'm not
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connected in any way. i have nothing to do with the country, nothing to do with it. does the businessman have the right? which, perhaps, were really far from politics, they were engaged in finance and economics. now such things to say publicly. you know at least. it very naive, since it is almost impossible to engage in the economy of even the russian federation in any state of the world and never be interconnected with politics. these are two things, and unfortunately, politics is often even rolled over. i don’t even go back to the results of privatization, so everyone created their own businesses one way or another, of course , so to speak. uh, it’s unfair and unconditional that there should be responsibility and understanding and some kind of conscience to have, since we worked on russian territory, he recalled in an interview there says to someone. if you think that i can come to putin, stop it and it will work. we are all in big problems. that is, they are there, they really think so, no, there is
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not enough linear relationship between the participation of works in the state and the opportunity to come directly to the president of the president. unfortunately, dear friends, if every oligarch will go to him and face some tasks. this is not provided for by the constitution . i'm talking about something completely different. still, people developed, were in this state, built their businesses and capital. they were disposed of in different ways, something was taken away, someone invested in life, a large number of examples correctly, a colleague said and we will not name names, so as not to be biased to people. we named the names of the people we have questions. and you name the part of the sochi olympics that incur huge infrastructure costs, which are prudently used by the money that they earn on the territory of the russian federation yes , they paid taxes, but after that they continue to reinvest to create jobs , for example, so there is a completely different. i would say, in a certain way, a predatory approach, when we pump out everything that is possible instead of birth. after all , people take a patriotic position in the same well. yes, they, perhaps, somehow non-verbalize it. they take at least a position of responsibility for your state for those
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people who work for them, they work in and provide an opportunity for our next companies to be responsible for this is their right, not an obligation and really. if you read some laws, there is no obligation for a big businessman to be patriots. you still have the sun for them too. well, boris borisovich said that these oligarchs are not particularly interested, they do not have any special preferences. and there is only care in the first place about your wallet. the fact is that, in principle, any traitor finds some justification for his action. psychology always finds some justification by its action, therefore, in this case, what they care about the state of the wallet and is the basis and justification for their actions. if we look no justify this is a normal desire a person wants to take off uh, maybe the wine that seems to him wrong in the first place for himself, but you use the word traitor. again, after that, he says, that is, you think that they are
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not just making excuses. namely, here's how they lead. do it here and fridman and aven and other oligarchs built their business and their financial strategy for allocating resources different continents, coming from they did it a long time ago and they came from a completely different geopolitical situation. they believed that relations between russia and the west might not be as simple as in the nineties, but they would be more or less normal, normal enough that they could live somewhere in london and still do business in russia and without suffering. and how not to suffer either here or there and that's it. they will be more or less fine. this situation has become gradual. this happened not abruptly on february 24th. it's been going on and on and on for years, though. they still counted on how they would avoid any drastic options, but really after february 204th. after the start of the spice operation, the situation changed dramatically for them , and now such a critical moment has come,
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in which a people show up best with whom they understand, if both friedman and aven decided, that very day, or in a week or two return to russia and say that they are ah let's say so no persecution, them no one in russia would be under. what kind of persecution would not have fallen moreover, they would now be cited as an example of how the right people who made the right choice did they have this choice in a critical situation, they showed themselves completely differently, that it is obvious here that they are ready to betray their country for the sake of the security of their own wallet russia where they were born, in order to ensure the stability of their own. and now this is existence. they swore an oath to putin. what are you, citizenship whom they betray sure they are can dramatically sharpen people's own citizenship.
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can i have one second? here imagine well, let's imagine the great patriotic war is going on and one of the entrepreneurs is sitting in berlin and talking. yes, i was not close to stalin there , why am i honestly earning money in russia what did you tie me to, we are at war with ukraine, now we are at war with the west and now this is also a betrayal. sorry. hello. let's make a pause now for putin let's do everything later. alexey chadov's film his own war a storm in the desert in cinema from the second of june as a battle group commander asks for 300 greens. i'll help raise money. that it's only 150 here, i can't just
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yes, i suggest so, it is necessary, of course, to judge by deeds. on the one hand, what boris nadezhdin said just now, you did not hear. well, in a pause, that friedman closed it 1,000 years ago. in general , he left his active participation in russia and has been living there for a thousand years. well, about 10 years, probably, and moreover, he was born ethnically in ukraine. who knows who it is at all? what is his uzbek? now we will call if he was born, wait a minute why am i talking about business. this
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here is a muddy story that we recalled that fridman and aven donated $ 150 million there to ukraine because there was supposedly some kind of agreement by the british themis that then the sanctions would be lifted, and the british themis said, oh, we didn’t offer anything. it was their initiative. we have absolutely nothing to do with it. that's why i say that it's a muddy story, because after all, it seems like there is an initiator. now they call that one, and this canadian freelance christ, she is not friedman's relatives. there, hmm so, well, practically, this is a kind of modern indulgence. what is the mechanism? let's at least describe it that way. this is the press, that this is the christians. e canadian government. she allegedly was on the big seven last, which took place in germany, she told a journalist about this
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idea, let me remind you, if anyone has forgotten, she is an ethnic ukrainian. she worked in russia for some time in moscow and she did many. let's call the russian oligarchs the old way. she knows personally. here is from her words. this is still the idea of ​​our oligarchs. they tell her about it spoke. ah, because it's a good option for the rich. these are getting out of sanctions to the west, there is no need to get involved in lengthy lawsuits to seize frozen russian assets, and so on and so on. transfer 300 of these eight hundred. well, this is approximately the amount at which the frozen gold and foreign exchange reserves of our country are estimated. to my six
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to fellow ministers that the oligarchs are also critical of russia's aggressive war against ukraine. however, they cannot distance themselves from it because of the threat of reprisals from the kremlin freelance. he says that the oligarchs condemn the military operation and are even ready to donate impressive sums to ukraine for the sake of lifting sanctions, such a deal can give certain advantages to all parties . kiev will receive billions. the west will avoid the exposition debate , and russian entrepreneurs will get their luxury life back. so once again the oligarchs condemn the war operation and are ready to donate an impressive amount to ukraine to lift sanctions. if they do it, then they passed it on because they have russian passports. it will obviously be obvious. you see, we are gradually starting the action, the edge will be seen to be used by the information in the information pressure against the
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russian obviously. it's an unfriendly action that. and if a person, keeping a russian passport, uh, left russia a long time ago, he lives there. well, here he has something like that there continues to work, but he has a lot where you work in a democratic society in exactly the same way as these people, according to boris borisovich, you have the right to do what you want, and our citizens have every right to think about these people as they want, and our citizens regard this betrayal. this means that this is a betrayal and there is no need to take away this right from them boris borisovich although i have to take the word very badly, because it is worse with a frag. no, i do not propose to meet in any case, you know from the enemy to the enemy. you can povvat then sit down to agree, yes, and that, and traitors are a person with whom you will never sit in the same field later, so i am very careful in these words. please note that this is pure lobbying, when the russian oligarchs, using a western politician, influence western politics exactly, against which the west is fighting, allegedly in the words of the russian influence. and this very influence is also one more moment
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when boris borisovich talked there about putin's non-putin oligarchs. you. note. i got you now caught up in the idea that everyone who suffers. these are not putin's oligarchs, in general they are people who made themselves in the nineties puting. has nothing to do with them. yes , no business, and then continued. how could he develop, but these are not putin's oligarchs, who are not putin's businessmen. this is to rob all russians. you will just get robbed of course, but there is some in it. i don’t know if it’s some kind of universal sarcasm, or something else, because the business that has been formed is obtained during the reign of the path, but it turns out to be more patriotic, smarter, smarter, and those people who became rich there at that time, they withdrew their assets in time, they heard it means another paradis yes, yes, yes, yes, the person who suffers got up to deal clearly, uh, not in the nineties, what, but a huge the number of business people. who lives in
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russia but earns money in europe and in america , it-startups that have shot well in russia, many have moved to the european market. and now these people have also become persons for two novrats, everything is blocked for them, they are asked to leave their company so to say, therefore, an entrepreneur, a successful businessman, should generally be such a citizen of the world and the concept of the motherland, this motherland, look at my opinion that everyone has a motherland, but a person should not be limited in any way. where does he want to live? he has the right to protect the homeland, this right to defend about the homeland, he should or not, when the homeland is possible a patriot and of course, where he earns money to comply with these laws, but in fact he can live anywhere. i say keep the money here. it turned out such a nuisance for the motherland, you need to intercede to help, look. not not not i'm a man of the world, i'm a man has the right to be neutral, because
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spice is coming now. when, when it has already passed, then it will be clear who is who in the first place, neutrality for a second, which means their position. even the question brought examples of some of their own. well people, without naming a surname. yes, but these people. they chose that they chose to stay there and be silent, that they chose to give an interview to some western publication for testifying. means conditional respect for britain and so on, or when this indulgence appears, but no choice to make, they chose to live here and actually take them out of there. here you answer, because there is high pure water. wait, let have to give the situation. here you are talking about neutrality and this entrepreneur who lives there and works. e, for on the contrary,
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look in reverse has russian citizenship in russia , mobilization is announced. he is 35 years old. he that must do his right elector he duties about this. here you are not bypassed. yes, on the contrary, now the situation is being discussed more complicated. he doesn't have to go to war. not obliged, if he is now exclusively, that's all. yes, the first second. wait, you can still go. not me. i don’t know which of them are making some kind of idiots at all, as if it means they think that the money they invest in quotation marks, when they come to ukraine to ukraine, will help, uh, complete this special military operation, save ukraine uh, create there is some kind of economy, but they are something they perfectly understand that in a couple of months
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no one can say where the border of ukraine will pass, where its capital will be. i understand that igor vladimirovich is the same, the same alpha, uh, now she is busy with the exchange. uh, the share between a banking , a russian enterprise and a ukrainian one is mr. friedman, and i don’t remember how his partner in ukraine is, this is it, they seem to be changing now. uh, in general, women have their own history. well, from what they officially announced. they are ukrainians. all you can say is yes, no one there, i'm not me, in short, wake up, firstly. there is no need to call traitors all those people who are against this further war is a terrible thing, because war makes extremely comfortable positions. yes comfortable good to say. we are for putin we will defeat the nazis for the special operation. the west against us is comfortably normal. you are
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doing well, just as comfortable sitting back in the west cursing everything russian, because they are russian goats who have always attacked us bloody, tyrant. putin is also comfortable, what is the problem with both these positions for all that they are comfortable and understandable and humanly lead to the intensification of the war. that's where the trouble is. yes? i have a position. that's what neutrality said. no, you're wrong. i did not fit in, not for putin, i never fit in, never. yes, what a day putin is the best president in the world to compare there with not just you said you didn't fit. so, i said two accounts of february, just in case, so now look, what's what's what. here is how i solve this problem. yes , it’s clear that the intelligentsia is now on stone’s facebook stands liberal we should there want the expression of the russian army, and so on and so forth, guys.
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you know what a story. what is the fundamental difference between the ukrainian understanding of reality and mine ukraine is at war with russia. yes, they can say that. and in general, damn it, you understand, i live on, god grant you my bell tower, no matter how i criticize this special operation, no matter how i read that this catastrophic mistake would not come to my mind to pay money. here i feel mine, i do not feel any guilt. i don't feel mine. but when you pay money to the ukrainian state in this situation, these are already businessmen, not from russia, who, in relation to their state, took a very specific and understandable position. come on, the richest ukrainian renat akhmetov, with the beginning of the special operation, took on the role of an exemplary patriot who does not spare for the sake of the country, neither financial nor industrial resources akhmetov, who owns a football club, the largest investment company in ukraine and a charitable
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foundation, according to forbes, transferred more funds to the needs of the armed forces and compatriots than everything the rest of the ukrainian oligarchs combined. we help the ukrainian army and territorial defense forces. wherever possible, we work for the needs of the front. our smelters produce anti-tank hedgehogs and steel for bulletproof vests, and we don't plan to stop. before the 2014 coup d'état, akhmetov supported the then president yanukovych, but then he revised his financial and political guidelines and began to work closely with petro poroshenko and then with volodymyr zelensky apparently, then he did not realize that he was helping russia after that, he most likely understood everything and defended his interests that are connected with ukraine akhmetov continues to do business in ukraine and in his last interview he said that he would sue russia demanding compensation for damages. after
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the end of hostilities. the ukrainian president promised to evaluate the behavior of local oligarchs, the oligarchs behaved differently . someone has ceased to be a strong person elena nikolaevna i'm looking at akhmetov who took such a proactive position, as it is now fashionable to say. yes, over and above, an active patriotic bias, understandable, and so on, and i’m trying to find some kind of russian analogue in the head of some very rich russian person who would also actively support the talk, and so on, and i can’t find it. maybe you can help me. you know, we have an amazing situation, because here we are now facing a huge amount of our small business, which here seems to have not earned billions. here they help collect money for the front, they go to the front line, in general,
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special parcels, you know the business, right here , well, everything for the front is everything for the victory, and when you analyze this behavior, you know, that's what we are talking about betrayal, because in reality , they have long made a choice, and all these billions that they have invested there, they are in our economy. they've already left a long time ago. they have been there for a long time, but it is convenient to earn money here, because that no one is waiting there. and this is the whole horror that all these years they were allowed to take money out of here akhmetov there is difficult, history. we understand he's the owner. azov steel is its largest active. you understand that now he is, in principle, becoming less and less an oligarch, because almost all of his assets are being lost as part of this military operation, but we have all the assets for everyone in place and at this time there is nothing, but charitable some kind of activity, but we are
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with you so that if you sit thinking, prigogine is there, which is eugene naturally they are joseph not because its in bad. i'm just different. yes, i say, as far as i understand, he either built or bought several houses in the leningrad region for refugees, in my position. this is probably money. well, maybe someone else is doing something. i just don't know about it, and no one knows, and you and i listen to them do it. yes, that 's actually here in this, sorry problems. in fact, it was much more important if we heard a clear intelligible position when a person says, i i support, then i will take it right or wrong, but now i will deal with my guys, who i will support at the forefront and a logical position, which, unfortunately, i practically stated. here is a small business, which is generally in a very difficult situation.
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we had this situation, but everything that concerns, as it were, our oligarchs, who could support here, there is nothing here, but the golden words of business, all for the special operation, directly help. that count was supported exactly that way exactly that way money goes to the front line, they are almost all for their country. i can say that i am in many small business chats and questions are often raised, almost every day, when a family needs some kind of refugee assistance and a small business helps, really clothes, housing, work, participate in these issues here. every day we send sweets for a cigarette, and up to a cigarette, when and what else do you want andrei arkadyevich, you explain why a russian businessman of your level of well- being is a considerable business. yes, not there with everything respect. excuse me, aleksey says that nevertheless those are the people for whom billions do not make. they
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do it in public on camera. they do not indicate their position. here i am, i supported this. i gave i'm proud of it. i made my position clear. i supported the special operation. i help with everything i can, and there are many of them, but it was absolutely right to say, but in our orthodox traditions, do not stick out. this help is there, you know, not to catch up, piara is quietly and calmly doing our job and there are a lot of them. why does it have to do with religion? for fear of people, there are no partners who will not think so, after all, there is a house in bo. and they'll probably take it. i told you the first time i have nothing. threats, he has no answer. i'm right. i'm talking about him all the time. i say threaten knows my address and say, but i'm not afraid. no, i didn't talk on the phone, again i won't give my last name now. you know in general,
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that is, this story of a year and a half should have been a year ago with one very rich attendant. he is just not orthodox. he is a muslim, and he says that it is exactly the same, but he says, i was brought up well, somehow you can’t do this, you have to do it quietly all the time, but shout that i gave a billion here there. i'm here, well, this silence is now perceived differently, because as we agreed now, no, yes, yes, it seems to me that we do not have such an akhmetov phenomenon because the situations are slightly different. after all, we are conducting a special war operation , an important, well, special military operation, money. there, the army here is from the budget, respectively, in ukraine the situation is different. they position nationality fighting wars. it means that they have colossal problems there, no money, then there the army literally needs to buy footcloths for them there, because there is nothing. and here such a folk hero appeared, who, of course, solves his political and financial problems poroshenko
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when she falls in ukraine pure water oligarchs, from which we left in the nineties, where these oligarchies are elected, of course, and give money, so he analyzed all three presidents, therefore, with all three presidents, it works one way or another otherwise, with regard to our situation. i totally agree that it would be cool. if we would see the faces of some rich people here, who are but two moments the first moment. i'm sure they do such things. in our country, unfortunately, people are shy about the culture of charity. we had a lot of transfers in the past years. yes, when i was preparing for them, i looked for materials bit by bit, i saw that our oligarchs were allocating colossal money there, but no one knows completely and completely about this, perhaps this is what happens in the second moment. uh, especially for boris, we do not need to raise money for the army. there, money is now needed, an absolutely understandable human humanitarian thing for refugees to restore those cities that are now under artistic control. the same brupe. there is a huge amount of money needed. and
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here it would be, if the russian big one were without us. if i had invested i would have helped not for the war, look at it and if i invested, i would go crazy now. first for my money. taxpayer. the russian army told boris about the fakes of the russian army. remember specifically to blame the russian federation what to do? stop it, let's do it. of course, one can lament for a very long time about the fact that the largest russian oligarchs do not go on the air every day and declare their full and unconditional support. special operations are not ready to allocate so many billions of dollars, rubles, dollars, in some way. they have funds for its maintenance or for refugees for humanitarian purposes for the restoration of mariupol and other cities. can you approach this more realistic, based on the russian political tradition, and in the russian political tradition, at least, which exist for at least
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20 years, but in fact and longer. the nineties, this also happened in the same ninety-sixth year during the election of yeltsin. the tradition of requests, let's call it so from the side of the supreme power from the outside, including the president from the side of the administration to the business community the largest businessmen social responsibility. quite right. let's. let's still start from reality and most likely was already, by the way, immediately after the start. here, in the run-up to the special operation, there was already one such meeting, but probably. it is likely that additional meetings will be required. and at these meetings. perhaps it will not be at the level of the president. perhaps at some other level and there they can already make requests with certain requirements, for example, this is the case for a topic or another oligarch who will allocate funds from their own. e. i may be a naive guy in some ways. maybe without a meeting. no, as if it were a signal understandable. here you can even faster speech, again,
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so to speak, the initiative without speaking there. ivan would very much like to have it without meetings. and there is. indeed, as if they were already talking here about small business, medium business. there are people who help themselves with a business no one is pursuing. quite right. we have already been able to evaluate, in 3 months, the reaction of those oligarchs who showed it, and therefore, here, most likely, we will have to use some other methods. eh, interactions with him will be objective. but i think that, first of all, this is all happening, really about this colleague. they said we don't know a lot of things, we don't know a lot, and sooner or later. we learn about it, we see, what quantity, for example, is now delivered to the front in the first place. e in the donbass yes, where, well, as if there is no such support, but there are a huge number of drones. there are thermal imagers and so on. it's not piece-wise, parties are already going there. just a batch of weapons or special cuts of funds that help achieve victory. and by the way, in the russian army. we we say that it is not necessary to help with the russian army, but not quite so, the fact is that in some
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areas, in particular, the same. we really got up a drone and private business helps. and this amount, and this is a very serious amount. there, the amount starts, you know, sometimes from a million - it’s not necessary, don’t share it, pilots, after all, which we use to shoot there, uh, the neighbor’s garden, yes, so why do you shoot the neighbor’s box sometimes you have to do it is the gentleman shuvator free from public political. that's why i'm sure these lists are, well, in a good way. we will see and hear soon. in the meantime, yes, for now, we start with such characters. come on colleagues. i will just give a few examples. i absolutely agree that there are traditions in russia. they are publicly all blissful. what are you doing? this is from orthodoxy from god. we just maybe watch the wrong channels. look at how many parties united russia is making now i am not commenting on anyone. every two weeks, 100 tons from only one region volunteers are working for monetary assistance, my colleagues, deputies of the state duma, the chairman of the committee regularly stands and operates there, a number of whom you know are
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directly involved in this operation. no one shouts about it, they really don’t talk about it, so maybe don’t cry about it. these are the citizens. i don’t know which country, probably our citizens, especially, by the way, yes, there is a good saying, if these oligarchs of yours have money, go study in london think about your these are the oligarchs. as a matter of fact, everything is obvious, which is why there are a huge number of examples of young people, people, businessmen and small businesses, which the president has never collected. well, very rarely, maybe even do. this is an all-russian all gone and all communities. here is the all-russian movement of entrepreneurs. and you yourself can not form it is time to start in russia. have long tried to constantly meet the president unconditionally. there were no reforms. nobody told us. so everything is collected. nobody talks about it screams. tak can shout about it, because as long as you do not shout, i calmly do my job. here is boris borisovich boris borisovich who is driving in
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the cars he drives, so they don’t support you, you understand, this puts people in the hands, it’s just that people quickly drive along the same road with you. they will drive you. let's not get together about it, that's all. yes, you know this position, we can see everything now, yes, foreign companies that invested here and worked here and created jobs. so they announced they packed up and left. i mean, if you live in london and you have a $7 billion mansion and it's been renovated. well , sell it. leave it. get out. well, how would abramovich be sold now, chelsea and the money did not work out abramovich should not be a person who helps to scream. in this case, there is united russia or there is some rich
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person, even other people shout about it, so you know. investment and let's not only gather big business there at some office, but let's ask the editors-in-chief of all the media, including the internet of buildings, dear colleagues, e-mine, well, times have changed. well, let's somehow just a little bit, we can’t give such an offer, we won’t give nadezhda, we will definitely go to advertising, then we will sum up. the son confessed to his mother that he decided to become a girl. i gave birth to a boy. it was a long-awaited child. i loved him very much, he made such a decision when he was being treated for oncology. we were told that there were two and they did not. i stood on the verge of life and death, and i saw that life is slow. the mother is afraid that sex reassignment surgery. maybe it kill at any moment, probably, the disease can return, unfortunately, i am very afraid that it
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change a little businessman. patriot entrepreneur patriot. here he is what boris borisovich should be well, it seems to me, the patriotism of a businessman. since he is a businessman, first of all , to create jobs, pay taxes, yes, to develop, in fact, our homeland and ask the authorities for mistakes, this is also patriotism. you know, this is how he should join the all-russian movement of entrepreneurs. we must unite so that powerful reforms begin in the country. he must work in russia spend money in russia build parks, like galitsky, how can i restore grebnev's estate, if we unite in russia , powerful reforms will definitely begin in the near future. the president said freedom to business. i collect 500,000 people, asks who got freedom. one or two hands are blurred by these officials, understand? fill matvienko call she says that we look like with a poster. yes yes yes. here is valentina
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valentina ivanovna, so alexei igorevich, a businessman must always have freedom. a patriot must also have freedom. now there is a special operation. she early or it will end later, and we will see who was more needed by the motherland, the one who lived there or here, all this will be later. and now the most important thing is not to make a deal with conscience for a true patriot. i didn’t understand, so i, too, not all anton valeryevich jobs in russia are expenses and investments in russia , but if the business is global, then defend russia’s public interests, so vladimir viktorovich definitely work, be unconditionally responsible for his people for the future for those decisions that accepted and invest reinvest in order even more motherland soaked. and i will say how thought businessmen are not patriots. uh, they say money has no nationality. these are the patriots. there are these people here. they reason in the same way as khodorkovsky's patriotic businessman thinks
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categorically the opposite. so let's viktor zhozevich. every businessman must follow the laws. regardless of ideology, a businessman. a patriot must at least value his country, his homeland, no less than his business, and at best , even more of a victim. businessman patriot - this is a person who believes in his country in russia in its future so much they say should should we all owe our homeland good point a businessman can earn here and create jobs, or maybe create jobs and earn somewhere abroad, if this is his business, but if he goes to give an interview to the newspaper, the guardian tells how sad everything is now and how he lacks several thousand pounds to decently tell, even if he has all these requirements, who are now called performed by a patriot, it’s hard to call him. well, a classic, then today the time
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is still rao ​​eu i don’t remember when it appeared. this is an anecdote. by the way, in a surprising way, the name of anatolyevich bays. today we will touch on something like this . well, probably, there is nothing special to discuss there and left. well, the story went like this. and what will happen if you lean towards the outlet and shout loudly at the outlet, chubais, come out, but the dude will not come out. but if you take a ruble, roll it into a tube and put it in a socket, it will take it a meeting place that cannot be changed. we meet at 14:00 on weekdays on ntv, all the best to you , goodbye. hello

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