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doses in people begin a real breakdown, ironically, those who voluntarily laid down their arms and surrendered to the armed forces of the dpr and lpr are the most lucky. in the peoples of the republics they get a chance for salvation constantly with health. this is a serious problem. this is a problem that conveys a prolonged character. it is not only related to the fact that they use drugs on the battlefield, but the legislation will eventually end. yes, i believe that we will come out, so to speak, at least in a state of stability, and people will remain in a state of drug addiction. needs. according to narcologists, it is almost impossible to overcome addiction in the conditions of hostilities, it is almost impossible to understand that there is no question of any rehabilitation of personnel, but after several months of regular use of illegal drugs, irreversible processes begin in the body of fighters, however, for the kiev regime. this is not a problem and, of course, no one is going to solve it, to replace the waste material of confident experts in power. find new cannon fodder. in the near future. another wave of mobilization expected in ukraine
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exclusive interviews. with mikhail godkov , a certain epidemic is called. leading to us. west what experience our laboratory medicine has acquired during the struggle with the species needed a special plastic. we needed special water. to what extent we are dependent on imports and what problems are there, there are no particularly acute ones in the face of sanctions, do you want to defend the ability of our country, how to see the real picture based on the results of research, health, nation, diagnostics of this information, why do we still argue? is it prestigious to be doctor demonstration short nurses? this does not increase the prestige of the profession, you understand? answers today on ntv our answer to the great baba vanga is the unique activity of borisoglebsk, whose hands heal, and whose eyes see beyond the rest, such a plane falls with passengers. what
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predictions have already come true? what will happen next with ukraine who controls zelensky today, he can escape to poland, it’s clearly coming out and the exact date when the head of the terrorists will sign his surrender, we will find out, the future is on sunday at 6:00 pm on ntv the situation with the coronavirus has shown how important test systems that recognize diseases are in a world prone to epidemics, whether such an experience will be useful to us in confrontation with the eight monkeys. for example, to
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what extent we depend on imported equipment and reagents, what to focus on under sanctions, how the prestige of a doctor should be understood, and when patients become digital models, we will talk about this with mikhail godkov, president of the federation of laboratory medicine. andreevich how do you assess the contribution of our e-laboratory medicine in the fight against the covid-19 pandemic and what kind of problems in the system are you on your own? here it is to attack it was necessary to make a diagnosis. do you remember, uh, many countries? we went along the path of creating national diagnosticians, and we made it our own diagnostics. moreover, a very short time for a translator of quality and very high quality, this should be noted, and a very high quality second to make a diagnosis. it is necessary to arrange mass production of these diagnostic kits. it was necessary to purchase equipment, including abroad. well somewhere you need to install this equipment while you
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remember what the situation was. you know from my point of view. thanks to the mind, we have moved to some new state of medicine, not only our country, but our country as well. you know, our medicine, our doctors, our healthcare organizers. in general, i am a person who is skeptical about very many organizational ones. uh, about the issues that are happening in our medicine, because in this case it was done brilliantly, of course, it was done effectively, but, if we talk about numbers, uh, there is data about how many tests were done. here, uh, during the pandemic, well, for all the time, rise, i can’t say, because just don’t count the final figure no, research is ongoing today. uh-huh yeah, and it's just unrealistic in the xxi in the first year only along the line. ministry of health this is only polina zdravovna, made about 80 million years. this is only the line of the ministry of health. and there is also a department. and then there is uh, rospotrebnadzor and so on. you know, there is such an eternal question.
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uh, from the test, here, whose foreign ones are better than ours , what is a foreign test, the vast majority of the equipment on which we worked it is imported equipment and this is equipment. it is so arranged that low-quality reagents. she doesn't accept. it's just that we had experience and our laboratory and many other laboratories in the country had the opportunity to work both on imported reagents and on domestic ones. i want to say that yes, at the beginning of the epidemic, when the first sets went. we had a significant overdiagnosis. that is, we identified a positive result, where it should not have been, let's better play it safe and identify a positive result of someone who does not have one, rather than letting a sick person go to infect others, we had the opportunity to parallel production on imported domestic kits. they are comparable, they are really of high quality, why i am
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talking about this so confidently there are several sections in laboratory diagnostics, in which manufacturers of domestic reagents. they have made significant progress. and these are ifa sets and monenzymatic analysis. this is a confirmation of diagnosis and some types of genetic studies. here you say that the vast majority of the equipment on which we have to work is import. reagents are also partly imports. and now hellish sanctions have been announced against us. we have some margin of time so that we feel at ease in terms of the development of laboratory medicine. well, of course, because e equipment is highly reliable. she worked. for some, parts will , uh, require replacement, but this will not happen all at once, not massively. i specifically give such a simplified example to make it clear. but
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there is a second problem. it's a reagent base with that more complicated, and now, as the federation of laboratory medicine, we have already entered into difficult negotiations with the chemical industry, and the production of this reagent base. this complex process is complex , it is not a paradoxical system that this order is large for us for physicians. small and when we paradox yes, when we asked to release a certain type of plastic, we were told how many tons you need. we said, well, we need uh 40,000 tons a year, they will say. well, that's not serious. you are so for such a small production. we will not to improve the process, and in general, i had to persuade, you know, that is, different scales, tell me a. here, in principle, there are enough medical laboratories in the country, in your opinion, a laboratory service. e in russia has its own problems. but in general. as a result
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, the process of centralization in the whole country is quite now underway. this is one of the main trends in the development of laboratory diagnostics all over the world. what is the centralization of the creation of powerful factories for laboratory research? in moscow, the process of the show during about the last five years, and a three-level laboratory system was created, it was this system that largely ensured such a rapid restructuring . here are the factories that conduct a gigantic amount of research and there are smaller, but also centralized laboratories, the rest of the laboratories, at polyclinics and small institutions. they've been removed. these are points by taking materials. what kind of specialists do we lack. eh, and for what reasons is not enough. maybe there are few educational institutions that train,
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maybe the profession is not so prestigious and the people somehow don’t go. from my point of view, doctors are trained a lot; we have many medical institutes. and a lot is being prepared, but what is prestigious, let's deal with you. prestige probably consists of two parts. this is a kind of moral component and a material component . does a modern doctor fail a lot? differently small not differently small, especially, novice doctor just a little is a very low salary, as a rule, for a doctor to get a lot , he needs to work a lot, a lot of each other before that, we say prestige if you take the moral and ethical side, but you are a representative of the media . you know a lot of films in modern times that would be glorified by the profession of a doctor. but there
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are few such examples, unfortunately, i don’t know any, it’s just that i may be, i missed something federal channels regularly show series about doctors, if possible, i don’t i will name specific series, then, in general, sometimes it is simply indecent. it's basically love secretions. it's kind of a rip-off and that's it. the rest is a display of short nurses' coats. it doesn't boost. the prestige of the profession , you know, is very rarely shown, and how much the doctor really influenced life expectancy. yes, there is such a feeling, i rarely encountered this, of course, because of my wife's profession. now i came across when a person comes out and speaks. yes, we saved a person from diseases. we saved him, we could, and sometimes we have to, and i personally had to say this to a person. you know nothing will help you. and you have
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six months left of one year. he says how he needs to explain that modern methods will not help him. there is a point of view that it is not necessary to speak, but someone says it is necessary to speak. what do you think, it's easy to say, i think it's not easy at all not easy at all . for example, in our laboratory we have a reception of the population by e-e for conducting laboratory research, and when we opened this reception population. i thought that it would be difficult for me and my colleagues to tell the patient what diagnosis is oncological or some other, but it turned out to be much more psychologically difficult for us and the patient to hear to a woman that she is not pregnant again. this is an unfortunate woman, seeking to get pregnant to continue her lineage, and she goes with hope. and we have seen that for many this is an absolute tragedy. but from the point of view of hmm
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, it can be quantitative or from the point of view of attention, to some kind. uh, testing. uh, there is a scale. uh, some kind of report card. yes, that's what, let's say, may be of interest to people to a greater extent, yes, that is, there you said there, uh, and pregnancy. yes , for example, uh, what may be of greater interest to the state, as we know, now attention is being paid to the fight against cancer . you know, i would have your question, if you can rotate another plane. what is more significant in laboratory diagnostics? let's just say the most important thing is that how the patient does not see the rule. these are all types of research related to the assessment of life support during the resuscitation operation. and here is the problem. and by the way, from the point of view of import substitution, because there is a lot of imported equipment and imported reagents. and this is now a very big
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headache. and now we are trying to explain that, of course, we must produce such equipment in our industry, since it is strategically important. this is, if you like, the defense capability of our country, because it is literal. in the sense of the word. this is life support. this is the first. the second group, probably what i 'm talking about, is the diagnosis of life-threatening conditions, of course, diabetes mellitus. of course, this is a group of diseases that require constant monitoring. well, for example, patients after organ transplantation, they have a set of tests that need to be monitored for life, and this is also necessary, and this, of course, cardiology is oncology. well, a number of other diseases, with regard to the diagnosis of viral diseases. this, of course, is very significant in the light of recent events of recent
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events. but this is more of an epidemiological nature, you know, but laboratory diagnostics will still be another remarkable feature to note. the fact is that this makes it possible to assess the level of health of the population in different regions. this is a certain cross-section of society and according to them. according to the results of these studies, one can say about the state of health in a particular region, and the quality of medical care. and the nature of nutrition can even be said about bad habits. sorry fashion trend. as a matter of fact the last time. this is the digitalization of everything and everyone, a peek, maybe a little further, but, that is, an attempt to put artificial intelligence into service. that's all laboratory medicine. as far as i understand, i'm not dreaming. it's already doing something. this is the hottest one. the topic is now
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laboratory medicine generates information, almost all the information of laboratory medicine today has been translated into numbers, almost everything now has obvious studies that are supposed to be translated into numbers. this is microbiology cytology. they will be digitized there are definitely already approaches. just like radiology, almost everything has already shifted to numbers. it is not a big problem to work a little and give us a small amount of money, as we know a small one. well, it's not hard to operate. with what i think all these questions? deprived for the next 70 years, everything will be digitized if the doctor has previously treated a specific person, literally this body. he treated, then, the further, the more. i will now explain to you what it looks like. he considers to treat not the person himself, but his digital model, as it actually looks now we generate a huge amount of information with
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