it was impossible to watch this video is simply impossible. margarita let me start you two statements by biden, i think it seems to me that they are completely confused statement number one. let's see what they seem to have made the decision that they will supply these missile systems. yes and this new package will provide ukraine with new opportunities advanced weapons. including these systems, a failure with reserves to protect their territory from russian offensives is the second statement of the rider. let's listen. we will not send missile systems to ukraine that can reach russian territory, which is a completely incomprehensible story, and it has been going on for at least the last three weeks. do you think biden biden is trying to deceive someone, that is, they made a decision that they will supply, but at the same time they make some statements

that they will not supply, or he just, maybe, forgot about what he said before how to understand it all. it no longer lasts the last three weeks over the past decades. we often talk about this, that in the united states, actually, the most important decisions that determine american policy and, first of all, american geopolitics and military policy, these decisions are not made by presidents. no biden, nitrate, no obama, and then down the list in reverse order, as we heard trump's statements, and i have no doubt that he sincerely thought so and thought about the fifth and tenth he was not allowed to realize it. how many times have we heard obama's statement obama went on for two terms with one of his main promises to close the hostel base in the guantane nothing, and there is no doubt that he really wanted to close it and, in general, really wanted to

change the american imperialist one in some way. forgive me for such an old soviet word. politics, i read his first book, which he wrote as a young man, in my opinion, he was not yet thirty, and there are such passages with such criticism of the behavior of the united states in the outside world in general in the world, as such, and i have there is no reason to think that he was not sincere in this, but they do not manage it. and what died badly, how the shares of the company producing these weapons have grown now. how much money these people will earn, and the presidents - it's just like that. well, a card, a photo card, a postcard, people voted that for 4 years a postcard and symbolizing america for these 4 years will be this face, and then another face, but they don’t have a decision. but this very dip is worth saying i will explain the deep state. yes,

that is, a certain conglomerate of people who are the very decision-makers. it is difficult for us to understand this, because putin makes the decision in our country . no one knows, and no one most importantly elected, and no one delegated this power to them. after all , the american people did not delegate this power to the american deep state. american people don’t know who these people are, but decisions are made on behalf of the american people here, thank god, this doesn’t happen, therefore, we need this system itself, which for some reason they call democracy, and it has nothing to do with democracy precisely because the people do not elect these people. it's hard for us to understand it. sorry i interrupted you, but this dip is where they live on the moon they think that if suddenly, well, actually the reaction of the wife of the nation, ours is known, our reaction is known,

and we say what will happen in the event. if yes, that's right, that's right, and they think they're somewhere. they sit. look, it means that dmitry medvedev, during the attack on our cities , the russian armed forces would fulfill their threat and strike at the centers for making these criminal decisions , and some of them are not located at all in kiev, because, in my opinion, everything is absolutely clear. and this deep state is probably sitting somewhere on the moon, that is, they think it will not affect them. in america , the mentality, especially in the political establishment, is conditioned by their habit of case law. what is case law? some decision was made like this or something happened. this is how things will continue to happen in similar situations. in the same way, in their memory, we gave back many times to the beginning of the sixty-second year with the caribbean crisis. ideally, the back was given to the rear. well, i'm not talking about

what kind of back, but in the ninety-first and many, many more years, then many times in a row. we gave back. now look, we talked about what if the shelling of russian territory continues. that will be strikes on headquarters, yes, which in kyiv had blows. i am not calling for these strikes now. absolutely. yes, i explain the logic, you ask me a question. why do they think so? i explain why, because they will stop thinking like that after the first blow, but they will be very surprised. yeah , michael, stop it, or in general, remember, you told me exactly a week ago that there would be no such supplies, because washington perfectly understands what all this is for. maybe he said that medvedev's statement was not entirely accurate, and he said that not to drill deliveries of weapons with a range at 120-150 km, that is, and biden clarified that he is

a new rocket at 60 km. that is, he believes that this is a compromise. yeah, that is, earlier here they are howitzers for 30 km, and now there are new missile systems that ukrainians, but this 2,3 does not do training, but only 60 km, he reads everything only, a can they reach the territory of the russian federation of course they can, if they are, if the course is on the border of russia naturally they can, so he didn’t exactly put it that they can’t they can, but he had in mind that e he set conditionally. what and what ukraine has no right. yes? then the question was promised in no case do not wait. actually, i don't even want to discuss the fact that someone in ukraine has promised something. this is complete nonsense. i'm not talking about this, if these missiles are only 60 km away, as

you say, then why make some kind of special statement there, but to the american president, why then does he put these missiles and that's it and no more. as the statements say. why then why logic, because he considered it in a row. yes, he is still 150 km away and these ra. and he hopes that this will influence the course of events. all this am. this will raise the stakes. this will increase the costs of the russian side and, as zelensky put it, so that it will help the izolensky zalensky ukrainian army to expel the aggressor from ukrainian soil, but i would not exaggerate the significance of these systems, because it was ivan and i, he understands this very well. yes, because there would be a desire for ukraine to strike, but a steeply large-scale strike on russia. they have these capabilities before the delivery of these systems. at they have death, they have american they

have drones, and in the end. yes, they don’t do this for one simple reason, because they understand that they have enough consequences for ukraine itself. they don’t want to expand, but they don’t want to expand the combat zones. why does the usa think that this is a bluff, of course, this is serious usa russia will not strike there against nato countries in america because, of course, the consequences are simpler, but catastrophically in the middle you speak for russia , uh, right here. eh, what's the problem? these very uh, these very khimorians, that is, khaima, just showed a picture, they killed these artillery croquet system perfectly. they have missiles here, missiles of different ranges. so here is the setup. here it is in the picture, yes, uh, six uh launchers . they can let in missiles with a range of

really 40-680, and maybe up to 300 km. there are 500 sergey, well, up to 500 of this in general, that is, there’s not even a question about it, but 300 is a special a rocket that is fired from this thing, that is, to regulate further. here they put the installation, and then no one knows which rocket will be delivered there and inserted into this launcher, and today they may be one tomorrow there may be others and er certainty there can be no meaning, as far as even these missiles are concerned, let's say they will be, uh, up to there, uh, up to 80 km, the main firing range of this installation. yes, but, after all, we are talking about what the ukrainian leadership promised many times, in including the vaseline here quoted on the screen. e that will not be applied in russia, but they do not believe that crimea is russia and they do not believe that donbass is russia today.

the most serious e-missile that the ukrainian side uses was point u with a range of 120 km. you look at one point at uh, what serious what serious damage did the flight inflict? then the question is sergeyevich but the hall is such a thing, yes. hence, when the question is quite right, absolutely territory. this is russia from here. then question. if these are all the forecasts or options that sergey borisovich is talking about and ukraine will carry out but carries out strikes on the people's republics, and strikes on the crimea, which she considers her territory, accordingly, an answer will come from our side, you understand? yes? yes, but there is, uh, we are ready for, uh, well, i don't know, this is the headquarters, which is located somewhere in berlin actually. we'll hit this headquarters normally there. and i think that, most likely, they will not

ask us about this if they are ready. we this to this or not. so, but i think this situation. yes now we have, uh, there are, as it were, two two arguments, which are important, one thing is a kind of parity. this is a weapon for ukraine, since our allies inside us decided that let's go, we are also some kind of anti-aircraft. uh, we are starting to supply weapons to ukraine from germany yes, and the second psychological argument, if ukraine starts seriously advancing on russian territory in western europe, support may crumble, because then they no longer protect themselves. so maybe, uh, try stepping on the territory of russia is just the end of broad support for ukraine but then yes, crimea is part of the europeans at this time. e. hmm, we did not

recognize crimea as russian, that is, not personally, but the state. uh, well, we understand that the ukrainian authorities are there now. no, that is, there is an understanding, yes, in berlin that if something suddenly happens in the crimean direction, then, in principle, berlin may be under attack? of course there is such an understanding. i think that there is absolutely you because of this, e scholz always keeps some decisions, because he understands the hasty lateral holds the decision. look, chancellor shol said that germany decided to supply ukraine with an air defense missile, which means, hmm well , and so on. let's see the solution, let's see how much time will pass. yes, because some tanks are still driving, still not equipped, and so on. that is, i understand that in germany my question is about what? are you your allies at this time? as you say, britain,

the united states is already supplying ukraine with these the very systems that can then reset all these scenarios with your tanks. and in general, in principle, absolutely what is connected, as they say with germany, you understand the meaning of an ally, that we support generally accepted provisions. that's when there is soy. sometimes you seem to be responsible for the company . yes, of course, and you have no suspicion. i just want to understand psychology. and now you don’t have a suspicion of a german person that your allies, about whom you are talking about alone, are sitting somewhere on the islands across the ocean, and at the same time conclusion. really, it's just right here in the palm of our hand, you know? well, we are relatively in the palm of your hand. after all, we are in the center of europe and there are a couple of other states before russia, i must admit. i’ll answer you on behalf of germany if it’s if you’re driving a tank, and if it’s a rocket, then don’t care at all, can you get me to the united states, then, look, makiivka is the territory of the dpr, they’re

showing it in this now, yes, it’s being shelled, though donetsk is being shelled gorlovka, in my opinion, was shelled 3,500 times first, according to our data, by a special operation. yes, it means, as far as i understand, the bryansk region on the territory of the russian federation and the oryol region there and so on. and as far as i understand the territory of the russian federation. if it is fired on, then it is absolutely all the same. it is 10 km from the border or 500 km from the border. it's still the territory of the russian federation, they are dying anyway, the citizens of russia, though. and this territory is being shelled and shelled. so we say i will shoot at russian territory, we will stand at the decision-making center, we say what we don’t we shoot, which means that there is centralization and decisions. no , we are not shooting at berlin, which means that there is a decision -making center there. no, that is, the practice of truth, the shelling has already taken place in washington, we don’t shoot, which means that there are no decision-making centers there, where it is. eh yes. i completely understand what you're talking about, it's just that if they start shelling with these systems, then it's completely just another one already in terms of

area. it's another level further can go only as they say, generally towards global destruction. they are shelled with body fire by our ex-soviet ones, which are even more powerful than these and nothing good question. here you are. the final one is actually this one, the list. come on, we have prepared such a summary of what they are going to do in the near future as part of this historical assistance, which biden spoke about, which means supplying ukraine with a and e, salvo fire systems and rvs there and so on. that's all, please, yes, that 's what is on this list. what do you think, maybe something to change this weapon, let's say the situation at the front, or nothing will help them change the situation at the front. maybe only one thing, if the supply of weapons will be concentrated on the creation, and of certain formations, relatively speaking, if they are going to create battalions, tactical groups or brigades that will be

fully equipped with all types of weapons in order to operate autonomously. and then it will matter, for sure. all this will be stretched and distributed along the entire front line. naturally, just and so on and so forth and in this way the situation will change little, but here is the first position the most dangerous. for what reason has already been said about this, because 80 km is, if you shoot from avdiivka, it is far beyond even donetsk, very far. and now this is a terrible picture that we have seen. i just still can't get over it. but grandma said, just about the fact that this cursed gay woman, everyone knows. here, if it gets there. it will be a nightmare, a nightmare for precisely peaceful neighborhoods, everyone who was in donetsk knows about one, yes they achieve. yes, the kuibyshevsky district is being finished off, the petrovsky district, which in general was

always hammered endlessly in 2014, uh, they constantly smash and hay. people there know this, but the center went further, the grafsky district, and so on , it flew further there, only when there was a point. and it was also there, but now they have such systems , in fact, they can, but try to destroy, and the urban infrastructure and try to cause panic . and the capital. meaning of the question this is a good question. this is a good question. really. which meaning. what's the point of felix hitting now? excuse him. what is the point of hitting women and children all the time. what's the point in actually hitting those cities that they left and left yesterday. and there, it seems, how do the citizens of ukraine live, as they tell us? what's the point? i do not defend, but i want to note that, probably, there are the same pictures on both sides. it is not true. this is not true,

actually. how to say? you can look at the situation, damn it, kharkiv yes uh-huh no, everything happens on the outskirts, and everything that was in mariupol yes, i constantly try to bring it. an example of how it happened. sorry, no one denies this if they went out, but these bastards scored a beto for the quarter. there, a-a the third third floor, for example, yes, and they sit there and, uh, guys with atgms with sniper machine guns and so on. what to do comes out? yes, it hits this one with direct fire, so there is no exit socket. so then they get up. i am a witness and according to ours we occupied the house. they drove the barrel straight into the house and shot straight straight in an apartment is it a matter or ukrainian, if such shots were felix, you would definitely see them, so they are now to be, what could they

be. and if you say, maybe it means they don’t exist, otherwise you would see them and be sure to present them to us to show them, it made sense eight years ago to bomb a children’s beach with cluster bombs, when there were no russians at all, especially russian military when it all started. what was the meaning of this there is no meaning in this there is only hatred. they, well talk to the people there talk to the people on the other side of your bloodhound side. they do not consider the population of these regions to be russians. it means that the enemies are traitors, bastards, and they have said many times, we need donbass without the inhabitants of donbass, that's the whole point of this and they are trying to make everyone either leave, and those who did not leave die. and whoever still survived there would be a panic, and everyone would have scattered in different directions, they need to live in basements. yes , fourth height. i am only for the soviet school curriculum, but in reality i don’t know it, i haven’t seen these

images. show here the cluster bombs, which are on the children's beach and elena ilyina the fourth height. it's from this story. we see something, well, you go there, talk to your parents with those who were a witness. i have seen these people with my own eyes. well, why are you now trying to tell me that this was not. this is a lot of evidence, is there a lot? video testimony photo testimonial testimonies of people there are surviving parents in our country in our country is incredible. this incredible story is called not reject the film. you know that i 'm making a selection especially for you. and if it is not enough, i will send people there right now with cameras so that they can record the evidence of those who were there fresh on video, maybe this will convince you, because in the same way you can prove that the

earth is not round, because no one at once- never rolled down her ass. let's look at another warning of what we are slowly but surely approaching with your help. let's see. what is required, and so categorically in a businesslike way, i would say the kiev regime from its western patrons. well , firstly, this already goes beyond all the limits of decency and and e of diplomatic communication, and secondly, this is a direct provocation, e, aimed at involving the west in hostilities, of course, sane western politicians are well aware of these risks. quite right. this is what it's about. we are now talking to you and do not understand. as far as i understand, none of the western politicians on whom the adoption of decisions are understood by those who yesterday were some kind of

bosses, but today's bosses do not understand. and all this can lead to the fact that ukraine will drag you into some kind of bad confrontation with the russian federation and you don’t have michael. well, judging by these deliveries. it seems to me that you, too, did not fully understand. what are you doing? let's take a break now, come back to this studio in just one minute and continue the conversation with our guests. don't miss out on central television. usa sends a signal to everything to the world and tries to tell what america will do and what it will not do in ukraine well, how will this signal be deciphered in moscow she wrote the murder of the author of the book. how to kill your husband was convicted of murdering her husband, how and why a famous writer turned into a bloody monster and was her books really inspired by actress amber heard, who decided

to kill johnny depp's career where the president and how much is it? it will be yours central tv tomorrow at 19:00 on ntv i'm almost sure that the tenge virus has appeared. here, artificial eduard flerov overcame his body , the virus developed antibodies. you understand that this means that the virus must have time to make the prime minister's vaccine on june 9 and 10 at 20:00 on ntv . that's when our foreign minister says that ukraine is just in the dark for the most part count, they are used and that in this way they can

actually drag this collective west into the third world war. do you agree with him or not? i agree that ukraine is really trying to drag, but i am almost 100% sure that the west is well aware that they are doing no oddities. no, you understand? that their goal is the elimination of russia, the abolition, as they say, while in the west, since the failure of the campaign of all of europe led by napoleon against russia, they are well aware that russia can only be destroyed from within this cannot be done from outside. we now have a strategic e, parity, so they are everywhere and everywhere. they say no war no war of the third world nato and russia, their goal is to make a mess here and chaos. wait a. for this, they need as many weapons as possible, so that as many as possible, and blood spilled on the territory of

ukraine once, and secondly, so that from time to time strikes on klimov were said here, there on tamarovka somewhere else - then notice a separate hit. although they have a check full of ukraine can gouge on a much larger scale. again, with such small injections to undermine the authority, so that they ask. questions now look hit our territory, and the president did not order to answer these decision-making centers . then they will put these rockets and one or two rockets, supposedly quite by accident, well, the frostbitten ones there in ukraine will shoot at a large city and again they will say, we have nothing to do with it. this is an accident. so this is a very well thought out strategy. yes indeed zelensky company. would you like to incite the west into direct aggression, but they are not going to go on this. pay attention to how they are poland because igor sergeevich they are not

going to, and they say about it that they are not going to. but sometimes circumstances are , you know, such that they, of course, are not going to, but it has already happened. there has never been a major war that happened due to chance. only fairy tales tell that the principle was bummed. and uh, rolled it was necessary at that moment for all the main players. he would shoot somewhere else something like this happened big warriors. it just doesn't start because of chance, but they do. see, look, the new york times. sergeevich here is the new york times. the decision to provide weapons to the zelensky marked a major escalation. and zelensky will be obliged by agreement there if russia yes with its main arms supplier refrain from responding. i mean, they actually understand. yes, as far as i can see, this is all a game for thin on thin, but at the same time the authorities are still playing this very game.

uh, so the new york times has an opinion column. yeah, president biden, which generally happens to him extremely rarely, but this is an author 's column in the new york tice in response to this concern. it was clearly worked out by the national security council and its experts. i mean , uh, the experts were over-calm. yes, yes, the council, the security forces decided to show us how they see the situation doctrinally. it was literally written there. so u are not looking for war with russia and not the war should not be focused on non-regional or global non-nuclear. here are the three. no, they wrote it down there, but on behalf of biden, as it were, yes, this is , uh, the border of what is unacceptable for them. and what should the war be like from the point of view of the national security experts who signed biden, it should be uh, long-term attention and uh,

exhausting russia prolonged and this war of strategic attrition. eh, here. eh, what exactly were they aiming for? it was literally in this column formulated in a language other than mine. now i state, and so to say in context. i, uh, reproduce the brief essence and there really is something to think about. firstly, they will not, most likely, will not keep the situation. here in these boundaries, that is, most likely, some kind of provocative blows with the help of this new weapon, when listeners do not even need a new one really. look, provocative gifts will be inflicted sergey god forbid on a nuclear power plant, god forbid on some serious chemical enterprise, but something provoking will happen listen, a deputy of the verkhovna rada of ukraine yes, yegor chernev is there. so he says, we take on certain obligations. but there, how the rocket will fly. god only knows, you know, yes, military facilities on the territory of russia are legs.

there are goals for us, and kiev also has its own weapons capable of hitting them, including these points at which we talked about, that is, by and large, it voices, what zelensky departs from, talking about what they they won’t put it there, it’s exactly, that’s how it will happen. i want to say that, firstly, they will not be prevented. on here are such supposedly scumbags. that's not prevented. they are almost certainly a provocation, of course, unfortunately, of course, when some kind of exchange begins. they will not be able to stop the escalation, the escalation will be uncontrollable. what will it lead to? well, to the fact that how to get through to it will still remain first regional, and then, god forbid, global and nuclear, to the fact that such a border of inadmissibility will, unfortunately, be overcome by a fish, that mike i just wanted, a whether the united states wants to go to ukraine, this conflict is even deeper, just as obvious, of course, it wants, of

course. and of course, ukraine understands that it can play it out at its own risk, because the biden administration really is. she set a strict condition and if ukraine violates these conditions, but in 6 months it will be in 6 months. these 40 billion dollars will be exhausted, and that ukraine is wet one on one with russia of course they understand that it's not worth it, and when you lose yours, i want more one turnip about a with the enthusiasm for the significance of e of these missiles. but it seems to me that this all fits into the general theme that we hear very often in this studio, that the united states is to blame for the united states, that this conflict is dragged out to provoke and so on. it's all upside down. it translates everything. it's not so long ago about one head cheers, of course it's all

obvious michael even your new york. one michael bohm doubts only one the whole west is ignoring everything, with what it was caused, where the root cause of this conflict is the first i do not want. i am i want to return now, to which mikes unleashed to return to this issue every time. you are trying to bring us back to this issue, and every time we feed you like a small child with a bottle and tell you how it all began, but vanka listens to finish eating and does not understand anything, and every time they again begin to tell the same nonsense. that's just simple human logic. yes unleashing a conflict, unleashed conflicts is the start of hostilities. whoever started shooting first, unleashed the conflict, whoever started shooting first at donbass rockets, who was the first to shoot?

president poroshenko announced this publicly himself admitted. this is not some one you are referring to, lena, i don’t know who the president said, but now our children will go to schools, and your children will sit in the basements, announcing that they are starting to shoot at the donbass, whoever unleashed the war is the one who started shooting, you can't help but know. we have different forts, of course, different ones. yes , the jersey is different. yes, your interpretations. they're just some stupid michael well, you forgive me, of course, yes, okay, everything, it will be clear to replace. okay, don't tell. that's just where these very fairy tales are, and don't engage in completely stupid propaganda without any logic. it just irritates and offends my mind. michael sergei deputy foreign minister rybkov. here he speaks openly. what are they trying to pull in there is a statement. ryabkova, i will give a statement, any arms supplies that continue to increase increase the risks of an open

clash between the russian federation and the united states well, that is, well, who else should tell them about this? or is it really rostislav right? yes, you can say anything, but at the same time there will be no blow to the headquarters. they wo n't understand anything. what do you think, of course, but ryabkov should say this, and he says, and it really is, because and our diplomacy, no matter how someone treats her, but she really feels and understands the ukrainians, because they communicated with them for a long time, and through and through. he sees everything 2 by 3, steps forward, but the problem is that it is important. here is how in art not to say something to be heard. after all, ryabkov said, but his no one will hear you understand? yes, this is the team that wrote the article, and hmm biden in the new york times, she doesn't count. and repkova. lavrova what are you talking about here, huh? well, it’s enough, but it’s necessary for consideration in general that

these are the ones who are coming from here, and who should give this signal, moreover, i’ll say, such a thing, even inside america. here we are criticizing michael here we hung. here is a quote from the new york times yes, about the thousands of ukrainians who died , yes, and here i want to add a little, how else to add, that this new york times article was written. i looked at it carefully on the same day that president biden's article was published in the same new york times, you know, that is, one article of one edition on the same day and one article, yes, cover up another article. you see, this suggests that even within america, even here such articles appear, but there is this narrow circle in the white house that writes this program. yes, and here is the article. here you mentioned an article about beibera. she uh, in fact. i also read it like this. well, i read carefully. i thought it was. i

understand that this is an attempt. for the first time to formulate such a one, it can be very detailed, but a manifesto of this administration on a-a ukrainian policy, yes, and it is very interestingly called, what america will be and what it will not do in ukraine i thought, as an editor. and why such a long headline and it won’t be possible it was just what will happen, but then i realized that there is such a narrative here that we want to say that this will not happen there will be no nuclear war. so, these are the blows and there really is everything there, it even says that it’s not a biden. thanks, he won't overthrow the president. putin thank you. but here, in fact, when ryabkov, and speaking, he understands reality, he understands how ukraine behaves . we supply, but weapons for, uh, use inside ukraine well, let's simulate the situation, let's say, this is how the left

to say, here's a kid, here's such a provocateur ukraine after all, and spitting on this article, spitting on supposedly existing agreements, takes and strikes. and what, who biden will present an account to zelensky, some zelensky is now in trend. look, he's in the half, he's the man of the year. he is an influential politician. and who is biden? the rating, in my opinion, in my opinion, the rating is somewhere around 36, or something i already saw today was 39, in general, a historical minimum. here, and he is zelensky in the eyes of the western world, he suffered moral authority, who will tell him something that he is protecting his land. he dealt a blow to the alleged aggressor and that's it. and that biden will be able to do anything he will die. and this is not understood. ryabkov understands this. you understand, but the people who supply these systems and who believe that we, on the one

hand, have shown uh, determination, do not understand this. here we say this, we are fighting with russia, we are not letting russia win on the other side. we don't escalate. we do not want a third world war. we do not want a direct conflict between russia maybe, but i just don’t understand something, but in general you ask, but i don’t understand this logic of these people. that's purely sincerely i can not explain here. relax now. yes, i just that's what i can not understand, how can you supply weapons and think. but what if they suddenly strike at russia, this will lead to our clash. actually, with these terrible russians, when the russians say that if this happens, it will be a collision, they don’t believe, it turns out, just disbelief, and they count on the fact that we will turn on the back again, but this is impossible in this situation and what is terrible in fact and for them it is impossible, history. if they turn

on the rear, it will be perceived as something, like a loss for the united states, if we turn on the back , it will be perceived as a loss for the russian federation here, the scythe found a stone, it turns out that it is necessary to make some kind of compromise, while i heard some kind of demagoguery . please explain, firstly, this is easy to do if one of the warring parties is completely controlled, the ukrainian side is definitely completely controlled by them manageable. let's look at another scenario, maybe such a scenario. i do not like these fortune-telling on coffee grounds ; i love fortune-telling on coffee grounds. i don't like them in politics, well, let's suppose that some kind of blow was dealt with this weapon. god forbid yes, on our territory some serious and russia rears up and is going to answer so america is not interested. in that. she is not really not interested in the escalation of the war, she is interested in prolonging the war in the form in which it is now so that we give

back from exhaustion. they are from incredible escalation from exhaustion, we can run out of weapons. people may run out there and so on, but the possibility of him quickly fulfilling these reserves and then conditionally. i am simplifying now. well, conditionally call two one to zelensky, the guy says. you don't do it like that anymore. we agreed not to do that anymore. and here, please, in avdiivka there, do whatever you want. but don’t do it like that anymore , maybe zelensky will answer him. so maybe because i'm understanding american mentality. i also do not believe that they are interested in such an escalation in which they and their allies will already suffer. why because american society has been turned into a

society of a little hysterical consciousness by its mass media and hollywood for many, many decades. what does hysterical consciousness mean? it is such a labile psyche. this is when a society flares up about a topic instantly and gets sick and lives on this topic, and then also quickly cools down and switches to another topic. we see it all themselves how they flare up about lgbt something else now that ukraine is already cooling down american society cannot be interested in a war for a long time in which america does not suffer, this is very short. there is no such media and there is no such power that can force them. worrying about ukraine for a long time goes away, the wonderful problems of america, especially with the economic problems in america, take a back seat, and i wanted to say now. what three topics will american social networks discuss now? the main topic, ukraine, these are there systems. of course not. the first lgbt month began on june 1, everyone rejoices at the beauty flags further, as you know, the sessions have disappeared, the sessions have disappeared, there is

nothing to feed the babies. yes, the mixture is incredibly popular in america because, as you know, america is the only civilized country and a country in the western world in which there is no maternity leave, respectively, you gave birth and went to work, no one sits for 2 years, does not breastfeed, like we do. and even after 2 months the mixture disappeared for the child and really nothing to eat, because the mother, as soon as she gave birth, drank she does not have a pill to stop lactation of milk and the child has been artificial for 2-3 months. but what to feed him is wrong michael's times are terrible. now the problem in america is a directly natural crisis and the third topic is abortion, because they, too, have not been there for decades. some states cannot have abortions, others are categorically against it for another wave there. here are these legal squabbles over the ban on abortion. that's what interests america, that's all, and power. well, this is already the fourth inflation in the price of gasoline and and so on, and the government always focuses, after all, on the interests of society, an element of populism from power. you will never take away rostislav yes, well, those who do not want to guess at the coffee shop were advised

to study the rules, because both war and politics are always conducted according to the rules. even if the rules are broken, and the rules say that if you say we will strike no matter. why is your accorp in your capital? why don't you put it on? then they do the same to you, but in an enhanced mode, if you don’t mean again, then you provoke again again and again when you say roman well, we will answer. yes, we will someday answer, but we will also answer according to the rules. the americans are well aware that even if they fire from the rdf, not a single girl will die in bryansk, but 200 girls or 500 girls. russia will not start a nuclear war in the united states, the maximum that russia does is hit kiev and say next time we will hit with kalash. and now, when russia does this. well, then they will think, they will hit warsaw and then berlin and then only maybe washington how many

steps we have left in stock. time two three four move on or stop and start negotiations from as long as we speak, they know that they have time left until we start to act and you can warn. you can say as much as you want, as much as you want the first action. it will cause reflections until there are no actions to think about, there is nothing to work on, i do not agree. yes, i agree, in one action we did actions that they were sure that we would not go for. we started this military operation. we made an action and that they stopped. they are with a ring. let's. we are now guaranteed programming agreements of this year dragged, please, that's all, all all the time russia is such an action now we also recognize the dpr lpr. let ukraine refuse them, the minsk agreements are all there and what you asked for there. you asked us for some kind of security guarantees, that's all, we sit down at the table. no. they didn't do that. they definitely escalated. they will go to her before her

limit of tolerable damage to ourselves the problem is that the limit of tpm in damage to them is also the limit of tolerable damage to us, because the exchange of nuclear strikes will not please anyone nor us, not really them. i believe their goal is to destroy us. die with us. this is clear. i agree that they deliberately provoke in order to undermine the authority of the authorities. i also agree with this, and at a political moment, when they do n’t strike me, and they don’t blame everything on zelensky, i got out of subordination and even condemned other things, but we also understand this very well. and why this statement by dmitry medvedev was made, let me remind you that when was the first time they said about strikes on decision centers. i mean , here during this operation. this was said by a representative of the ministry of defense press service. and after that, this topic immediately disappeared. and now this is being said by the deputy secretary of the security council to the chairman of the security council, the second person. this

means that there will definitely be a blow, and they perfectly understood that it will not be a blow to warsaw, not to berlin and for some american facility named after. do you think they understood it, they need it before the elections. no, i think dmitry medvedev said this now. it’s completely logical that if this person is already talking about this, then it’s actually there, don’t even ask, but practically point but it seems to me that they still haven’t understood anything about it. we'll take a break right now and come back to this studio in just a minute and continue our conversation with our guests. lawyers agronomists or it specialists are all your element. what professions are chosen today by the children of the stars of alexander why are they fleeing from harvard and

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continues to talk with our guests, and the situation in ukraine and the representative of greece we have more besides germany yes, i want to understand, and in greece in greece what do they think about this whole story, in general, they, in principle, the greeks know how it all began. or they are actually here. but in the same position. what do we have michael hanging in there? as the saying goes. yes, why am i asking, because i, and i have subscribers who live in greece and who tell me that the only person who tells the greeks about what happened in the donbass over this long period of time is you and that the only ones out there some kind of medium information, some kind of television channel. now you will say what kind of channel is it that risks giving you air time. and now, thanks to you, the greeks there, at least, get real information about what it is. here it is our

special operation, what happened in the donbass and opinion may change. here tell us more, yes, what's going on in greece, how do they react to it on everything. uh, you know. i think your readers are exaggerating a little, there are, of course, other greek journalists who, uh, they say, like everything, and many of us are happening, like others, probably europeans, some, uh, but he is few, of course, but they tell u about what is happening in the donbass exactly in the fourteenth year. and by the way, it’s also very characteristic and it ’s somehow very connected with the history of greece with the history of russian greek relations. quite recently , the patriarch of constantinople and the monks went to the background, they just met him with this particular patriarch with a special statement, where it is said that the monks understand that this war

started. in the fourteenth year and since that time they are deeply daily. uh, praying for peace, and hmm, to be restored between uh, orthodox peoples and states. and i think that just the greek people share just such a position, that is, in percentage terms, almost 70-75. and in all polls , we express opposition to our government, but sending any weapons. well, unfortunately, if, as margarita was noticed, and if there is no democracy in the united states itself, can you imagine what kind of democracy it is little greece, or in general among the people of others, yes, but in other e european states. but i heard this expression. e. well, and, of course, i would not want to get involved in some kind of world war, especially a nuclear one. for the company i

would like, uh, if, after all, it comes, uh, humanity to such, uh, madness, so that at least citizens, uh, could have some kind of right. well, i don't know how to comment on this. unfortunately. this is, uh, the last uh, aggravation in ukraine proved that does not exist in europe, but absolutely well, none, in principle, which well, which europe has been talking about for so long, yes, that is, uh, democracy freedom of expression. here uh, or i don’t even know the free market, which u was called uh, everything, the time of the page of the soviet union uh. hmm, that's seven. now it is clear that if washington dictates one specific policy, and practically europe, that is, i apologize europe and the european union e has

no right. uh, well objection objection to this policy is about the same thing happening in our greece and in some survey in central europe , we were exactly greeks and cypriots, that is, two states. there was a poll in almost the entire european union, we were announced, it was published, and in the european newspapers we were declared the kremlin's calabionists the whole country is also not the whole country, that is, uh, uh, judging by the reaction, uh, by which, uh, how are we we meet, that is, greek public opinion, as it meets e, the so -called russian disinformation, because, by definition, the study was investigated, and it was from the standpoint of russian disinformation. do you understand a we are not such suckers in greece we have, but real good uh, we have a long political experience. that is, we

were against the war in yugoslavia uh, we really didn’t want to interfere. well, it was still early, that is, just, uh, the ussr collapsed, and now it all started and went. that's why i think that at least morally psychological at the level of society. uh, of course, we are categorically against uh, uh, those uh, uh, statements, uh, aggravation and those policies that are being pursued by the united states. well, i, well, i don’t know any a serious analyst, at least in our area, who do not understand that the united states is not pushing ukraine into this war and, most likely, russia is pushing this war, because it is beneficial for them, uh, such a situation and most likely it is beneficial for them that europe what surprises me will suffer. what is this european politics? i do not know

who appointed them, who chose them. why did such an elite get there? why 10 years ago let's say we could talk about cooperation with russia but now uh, that's just such an obedient the european elite that does everything the states say is also a paradoxical story. yes, that's who they didn't listen to everyone says, but people react differently there. but the elite we have this, but our people they are against it. well, or this is our question. this is the elite that your countries dropped with parachutes, or something. you yourself went to the polls and chose this very line, the replica is to blame for everything. you wanted a replica, i have great love for greece and as a story e as an orthodox person, but, unfortunately, uh, greece slipping slowly into the arms of militaristic embrace, the united states of america, uh, literally u signed not so long ago, a new bilateral defense agreement between the states. greece

eroticized by your parliament yes they are by an overwhelming majority, but ratified the number of military bases in greece from the american reached nine. uh, a huge base with a huge arsenal in alexandropolis, literally stuffed with weapons and it got to the point that even the tulka began to fear that this was being done. e, not against russia, but against turkey but against turkey yes but uh, here uh, i agree that the mood among the people is the same and the leadership of turkey took such a bone and unfortunately, it did not end with anything good. after all. this is a cliff literally a cliff of our historical relationships cults all long-distance relationships all rumors about american american diktat. it seems to me greatly

exaggerated , but one in hungary to submit to the hungarian desires and their dictate to receive and there are many examples when germany and france counterbalance the american dictate, and they won, there were many such cases, so i name at least one case against the iraq war. this it was much it happened. and the truth happened it was a long time ago. yes, it 's a little different now. now mr. schultz is telling us that he wants to create an army in germany. you heard about this film. do you mean about 100 billion. history is yes, two annual less than biennial budgets a large conventional army in europe within nato this will significantly strengthen the security of germany and its allies. are you ready what is the largest army we have the largest gdp 2% we pay

anyway, it's no more than 60-70. uh, billions , more than 60% goes to salaries, which will leave us with all our weapons in a terrible state. as you have just seen, because we can't fix some unfortunate tanks, so we know yes, but look what the plans are. and there is another mr. barrel is my favorite character, who also talks about himself. the same army, but only on the scale of the european union there is a statement. give me let's bar me. i'll ask, i'm just wondering logically. and tell felix why do you need an army like this, like no one from our side will go to you on tanks, and no army will save you from the sarmatians. what is the idea, but lobbying, again from vk, i generally think that there should be its own concept of protection in order to become more independent

from nato yes, that is, europe should through politics security that is considered present. no, it will not be on ships. what kind of independence from nato does this mean the independence of the united states in order for us to be able to carry out our policy inside it, we must have our own government, our foreign policy bodies that act. i did not want to perceive europe as negotiators, i think that in vain. yes, of course, when you do this, when you can influence some processes, and then we will reconsider our position. and now, not in vain, when russia did not want to. perceive europe as negotiator russia communicate with europe that with each individual state there will be this deal with europe with european leaders much more often than with american ones, this has always been the case all these years. give us a barrel. we have learned from the conflict in ukraine that trade is not enough. the rule of law is not enough to be a strong

civilian power; the eu also needs to be a strong military power. something tells me that i have already heard this, but i was told about this at one time, who is macron, right? macron said that it is necessary e to turn the european union into an empire, but then someone else said? yes, please tell me. but greece, for example, is ready. uh hmm i don't know chipping in on the eu army not ready to bask. well, you know, we are not ready for anything at all, well, everyone knows the crisis, yes, but you know, here, i also eat myself, like a supposedly european citizen. yes, i'm trying to understand, here's the macron said. yes, well, how long this statement lasted, yes, two or three weeks, then everyone forgot. yes, they forgot, yes, i don’t know, the germans also speak out. here's a pro some independence of the european union and who's stopping us? this independence? yes, and

an alternative policy from nato to show right now is collapsing. uh, the whole of europe, yes, that is, the crisis, in general, the deepest we have in the european union, uh, we are, in fact, paying for the decision of the united states and who is stopping us? now for those forces in europe who kind of want some kind of alternative policy to show this policy and pursue it good question. who's stopping you? who interferes? well i think that bye s-political on russian-ukrainian kaitane interferes with us, because e is for a german layman. yes, he understands that russia is not at home, yes, but operates in a neighboring country and, unfortunately, this gives a very broad mass support. now sergey about the barrel's statement. well, you know, barrel

continues to amaze me, uh, i listened about i remembered you understood, uh, the manifesto we have to whom the ghost haunts europe the ghost of communism. here's a ghost haunting europe the ghost of the euro army 20 years ago. i remember yes, the authorities ate, i wrote an article, yes about this here eurasia has passed 20 years. here i am sitting in this chair. again i hear about this europe now further. that's very interesting about greece mentioned. i also called my friends the other day. and one friend says to me, you know, i'm going to war now. i what kind of war? and he we are waiting for a war with turkey hmm yes , yes, everything is very serious here, i may have to and here is greece yes, but the euroarmy barrel, in general the european union, like now, if we assume, we will imagine that there will be some kind of escalation between greece and turkey that somehow europe is capable of you understand to protect greece, right? or let's say nato again, so to speak, because you see erdogan, he is. well, let's put it this way. well, yes, that's it, that's

what's the matter, but now there is a very army mood in greece. that's right, right? now the excavation of the moment of truth has begun. yes, and what about europe, if you dig to ask? yes, that's how greece can protect part of the european union, which in the history of relations between turkey and greece has been yes repeatedly. yes, the press case has been repeatedly, but now you see, erdogan caught it. courage to him it seems that he took, uh, god, by the beard, uh, sweden-finland. yes, he is trading to him, everyone goes. and remember, i said that you don’t have to wait for the quick inclusion of sweden in finland because erdogan set the conditions, look, june has come here, and at the end of june the nato summit where this issue should be the long-suffering aha of sweden and finland and erdogan hung it all up. that is, he continues to bank. he keeps raising the stakes and

poor greece where my friends say we'll go, maybe we'll go to war yes with this turkey and the erdogans the other day, i don’t know, saw this statement. he said, e mezza is still an example of not so greek necessary for me, it no longer exists, in general, it does not exist. yes, you say you were. well, were there such harsh statements that there is no longer an example for me? yes, yes, i never want to tell felix what europe can do for your independence for its independent policy from nato and why this conflict now in ukraine may not be a factor that prevents europe from showing independence, but may become a factor that can help europe really ensure its security, gain its independence and stop. there are several things that need to be done about this turbulence. the first thing is to agree that on

the territory of ukraine, in those areas that express such a desire, referendums should be held, because the desire of the people is the rule. it is primary, in general, internationally correct, clean, honest referendum. you are under surveillance, whatever you like, where people should express their will and further the fate of these people, together with their homes, that is, their territories, will depend on the results of these referendums. this is the second time to stop the supply of weapons, instructors, etc. to ukraine and prohibit the use of european territory for such purposes; the third is to give guarantees that the european countries that are members of nato will not agree in any prospect for ukraine's entry into nato, such things seem to be not complicated, and you thereby exclude. at least on our part , even the thought of any blow to europe because we don't know the american side. now from there the threat will come, well, from our side it will be

the world friendship gum, again trade security all together in an embrace. it is so important for you who the dpr lpr belongs to ukraine or russia let it be decided by the residents of the dpr lpr. actually. this should depend on their opinion, and from no one else exactly about this andrey turchak kherson region of ukraine avoners of the dpr will become part of russia in this no. no doubt the same will be the zaporozhye region, where a referendum should be held as soon as possible the situation and i apologize, i missed the fourth one, of course, europe has rich experience in this , if it wants to take part in this. if we are talking about guarantees and justice and, most importantly, security, to take part in an objective investigation and trial of people who have committed war crimes, then what we call wellcome genocification. here is a statement made by turchak but this statement

was made by margarita simonyan, the editor-in-chief of the rt channel, and the statement is different, where should we stop with a question mark i believe that we should stop. where we are happy. and? and where we are welcome, where we stay it 's obviously a good formula. this one, unfortunately, is not so. obviously, there are lands in which we know exactly where we are welcome. these people have been suffering for years in the dpr, lpr, and so on. and here are the rest of the localities and people, where we are happy with this and will show and show a referendum is it included or about france there about what about portugal i’m talking about ukraine i just think that they won’t please me as a citizen of russia despite my imperial consciousness and so on, i will not be happy to join the territory where the vast majority of people do not want to live with us. i believe that a good marriage does not begin with rape, where a those territories that dream about it and

believe that they have been living under a pyg all these years, these people should have a chance to stop living under this yoke and live with those with whom they are want to agree, yes, that's in order to really understand, that's the mood. yes, we conducted a survey on the site now rostislav now we will talk about this topic in detail the fact is that in the kherson region, until they appeared there. our troops, too, most did not want to live with us. and now he wants to. we conducted a survey on the ntv website and formulated the question as follows. which territories should become a territory? well part of the russian federation 61%. this must be decided when we reach kiev or vova are you correct in these 61%? no, i think that we should go to warsaw there, too, once there was russia, so one thing aha is good. or maybe in kiev we are also happy one thing does not interfere with the other, the little blue does not exclude the green and vice versa, all the territories where we are welcome, but then i will break this

thought. i tried to develop it. well, in principle, we can shake germany there, i don’t know. but who knows what is in the head of the germans and the french. you can shake it there, i don’t know anyone else, maybe we are also welcome there. it just depends on the troops. were in berlin there were very happy. here are the joys, yes, yes, kherson, zaporozhye region, which have already declared their desire. well , the vast majority of people think that stop, this is not necessary to go, at least to lviv correctly, i understand. yes, yes, i believe that leadership is needed here not for those where we are welcome, but for those on which territory our security is ensured. this is the most important thing. that stalin was guided by the fact that we are not very welcome in eastern europe, when he is eastern europe quite right, because it was necessary for the security of the soviet union in the same way and here we must understand. yes, any any territory. no no no i'm not on east now

europe hints any territory that remains of ukraine will be used by western ukraine at least one area will be used in order to unleash with us again. this will always be a sore point, the only territory on which there are borders, on which there will be no war, this border of russia and nato because it will destroy itself. they do not gather together with nato, so as soon as we enter the border of nato, this border will immediately become the border of the world, as soon as they took ukraine to nato. there is no question of us from the soviet union turns out, that is, we must not. igor sergeevich , i understand, yes, if we proceed from the fact that we are guaranteed security, only a common border with nato, then, dan, we should rejoice. if ukraine is in nato i just don't understand, right here, because it just seems to me that we have more, the

more, the less buffer, it turns out about something else at the border. he means nato by making a buffer to eastern europe. you are talking about this, as far as i understand? that is, the eastern europe is already returning to nato, so igor sergeevich is not. no yes i really say that she is more in nato. yes , respectively, nato with this border will not fire at us, it will never dare. well, that is, here we were, and now we had to take ukraine and carry out a genocification operation, where militarization is not because only missiles will be delivered there because the russian population is being destroyed there, because anti-russia is being built there. so it's completely different. yes , we will break now, we will return to this studio in just a minute and continue the conversation with our guests, and yet we want to understand, in fact where we should stop. yes, i was not

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on ntv this program is true, we continue to talk with our guests, the situation in ukraine is still trying to figure it out ivan what do you have option? exactly where should we stop? and how do you understand, and margarita's statement that where, where, where we are happy, i agree with margarita in absolutely what context? uh, like a person who has been there many times and so on. i agree that there are historical territories native to us and those territories where a percentage of the population in any, in any situation, has always prevailed, and pro-pro-russian about russian, whatever. it must be done about the soviet. this has always been what we knew in soviet times. fine. i 'll say more there, everyone knew who served in the army. yes, if the ukrainians of the west of western ukraine are really impossible to deal with him, he is a must. excuse me. e is eager to become sergeants, knocks us on against

colleagues and so on. and if ukraine is completely another person, enough, among everyone, yes, and i had a platoon leader, and styopa voloshchuk, he was from ivano-frankivsk, the world was a man a drug, but another thing is that, of course, from now we are standing, uh, before the dilemma what and daisy how told, what and the development of the operation what should be, we perfectly understand. yes, you need to move somewhere through nikolaev to odessa and to the side, respectively, a connection with a. transnistria, and here it is, this arc, as it were, uh, the whole rises, and what will happen next, the american experts already, in fact described this is the very road, and this is the smartest person. he also made a public statement that ukraine needs to think about it. how to part with these territories. yes, it’s like here, and this person is in politics, and

the very, very real realist grew up. well, look, he is now saying, they love us there in mariupol kherson somewhere else you can’t imagine how we were loved in berlin when, after the famine of the devastation of the war, the murder of constants entered there in the forty-fifth year of the red army and began on the streets. means handing out food straight from field kitchens and began to equip a normal civilization here in the territories that have now moved away from ukraine, russia, yes. well, until they departed, they are in the process of arranging a normal civilization the same. we saw in paris in 815, i told you, they loved emperor alexander so much that they really wanted to in russia because russian troops entered there. after france has endured a decade of continuous wars, it means that there were 4 million of the male part of the population for that time, these are huge numbers. just huge. so she is literally without people. so the economy is undermined in paris is russian troops. well, the army

does not always behave well. yes, sometimes marauders steal there, which means, yes, they don’t pay something, which means that alexander pays all the debts, which means that, by the way, the russian army did more, because the russian army is not limited to this. after that, nikolai, the future nicholas i, brother alexander, was also then the commander of the guards corps, he pays all the long guards, after that the commanders of the corps are commanders, the divisions pay for their officers. now imagine for a second it was forbidden to rob the allies, who wanted to withdraw everything that was in france to themselves as compensation. imagine how much they loved these very solvent, yes people who literally raised the french economy before our eyes. and even poured a lot of money. they just really didn't want this army to go there, so it was beneficial. another factor was yes without a trail. it is clear as a result of what happened there, in the french language appeared

new expression to make love. alyak, because as you know. the ladies of riga threw massive amounts of air in their bonnets when they met the russian army, and they liked it very much, how is it done here? so? well, this is how it works. so, where we come, yes, there we rejoice there well. yes, indeed, because, by the way, they will now have the same thing in europe, because in reality russia brings order and stability. have us after all now as struggle something goes. not the same not between. uh, there are some abstract entities fighting between uh a party that has actually exhausted its e, economic possibilities yes, it has exhausted its systemic possibilities . the west is a submerged systemic crisis, from which there is no way out, the system must be redone. well, there are no reworking forces for them, and therefore the peoples really sink when they are shown a war. yes, when margarita says, it’s very bad there in america and there is no time for ukraine, when it’s very bad. that's when

they show the war and everyone goes to war, because there are posts somewhere in the court that he made. it’s bad and this situation is now dangerous, but when it comes russia, she brings order with her. she brings finance with her. it brings order to life. you see, people rarely think about what kind of flag is flying over them, they get used to everything, but i saw it perfectly. so, when, uh, 2 weeks ago, everyone went under the red flag, and then already under the yellow blue one and somehow absolutely nothing. people didn’t change the way they were, then they began to change, which means, uh, they are worried about so that for the sake of the children you can feed, so that children could be educated to have a normal future, to have some perspective, there and so forth. here russia means a perspective, and it can bring it to france ah, here, most likely, not to us greeks, but to offer how, uh, it’s better to restore peace

between our fraternal peoples, uh, ukrainian ukrainians and russians, uh , but i am almost sure that if russia, along with the rigidity of the military, which has already shown yes, will show flexibility in further steps. and it will be for the benefit of all of us, that is, to everyone in europe, because, most likely, this is our common home, i, well, i eat everywhere to prove and that in europe if there are a lot of forces that want to restore relations with russia and er time i'm talking about flexibility. yes, you know, i remember catherine's policy, if, after all, russia offer something like that, yes in modern conditions. or maybe it's just the volunteers who will come. uh help uh, rebuild

build mariupol uh, the villages around. if now i mean international i mean flexibility, but about the fact that foreigners who sympathize understand want to help, so that they can come and participate in some way. ah. we have a documentary coming out today, and in foreigners, who fight on the side of the deinomer and help to restore and volunteer a lot. i'm just saying, i'm saying this because i know and understood that's during this time, and how deep and close for us for the greeks. uh, the history of mariupol and greek villages, because right here is this artificial as far as which was created. and for e russia, he passed. here, by the way, he is prepared and, uh , in the church understanding, yes, religious, that is, here is the story about such files and so on. unfortunately, all this has been prepared for a long time, this split, which has passed. uh, between uh, the russian and

ukrainian people, and this went through us, through others, but orthodox and here i am in favor of restoring all this as quickly as possible. and i am sure that europeans will find people who will understand this and take part. uh, because we only win from this restoration from this to take measurements and understand where we are and are loved. how to conduct these measurements of the referendum? but how to hold a referendum? if, in fact, let's say there, i don't know, it's already impossible not to be in kiev. they will hold the referendum on their own mary referendum rules. and, and such, respectively, we do not recognize. we held a referendum there in the crimea, they know, there are these results. yes, who is the one, i don’t know, the higher mind, which should control the conduct of this referendum and in order for both

sides to actually trust him, how to defeat america. and then we need to decipher this story. where we are loved further when we speak, and here it is, uh, my answer is that where we should stop, where we are happy, what is meant, it means that to become part of russia on my opinion. should those parts of ukraine that want to be part of russia is irrelevant to the answer to the question. when and where the special operation should end, this must be determined by the military. and where it must end so that no further threat arises from that place. not for us, not for that part of the people who want to live with us. the key moment is the key moment, yes. so now it doesn't matter whether they love or not, here the issue of safety comes first. right here. uh, they say, and it's very common to be terrible

terrible westerners. sorry, azov is forbidden to be staffed with us. mostly not westerners. it is staffed by people from the east of ukraine , russian speakers and russian jokes. they changed chevrons, yes or what, they changed it there and in the west. now this is perceived as what felix is ​​cleaning up. and it's pure steel. they are no longer nazis. yes, here, because the chevrons were removed. yes , this is it, just the seed of control refused it from the nazi symbol, which was exploited by russian propaganda, and we have now revised our attitude to kozon. yes, the composition of people is changing there, the composition of people is changing there, it's true, because there are more and more. there, these people find themselves in our pre-trial detention centers and i don't know any kits. there again the producers ends. it was this azov who showed why we needed to do this operation, because

the technology was being worked out there, how first the russian people are destroyed in themselves and three enemies are created, and then they mercilessly destroy all russians and that is why it was necessary to liberate this territory , since the rockets themselves. well, they would put them under the talin. they would fly to us in the same way as near kharkov, that's the reason. here i would like to respond to that, what our colleague from greece said is indeed an initiative in tackling the great task of reconciliation. e, fraternal peoples, e, russian and ukrainian spirit, e slavic two orthodox peoples. orthodox greece could take over from where both peoples once adopted the orthodox religion, but there is no initiative. unfortunately from the outside. greece while i hope it will appear a little later. but on the contrary, uh, the initiative comes constantly from turkey, uh, on june 8, important

events will take place there. quadripartite talks will be with participation of attention, that means russia, ukraine, turkey and the un, uh, quadrilateral talks between us ministers. lavrov is going there, and the formal basis for these negotiations is an agreement. how to export grain for sale, because a carry-over has accumulated in ukraine. this is not a state reserve, but a carry-over from the last record harvest of 20 million tons of wheat grain, they want to withdraw. what's the problem? here we have already marked mined. there, uh, the ports are mined. it is necessary to ensure the exit of the courts and so on. we said, please. the negotiations will take place prepared a roadmap on how to implement this conclusion. a special coordination center will be created, which will manage all this. it's important here. the very fact of some kind of cooperation, the participation of the un,

food aid to poor countries, that is, everything in this sense, is beautiful, as it were, and this is a kind of psychological turning point from the atmosphere of such growing hmm, such growing mutual hatred. this is to something different, some other relationship. it will be incredibly difficult, but important nevertheless, attempts are being made. i all glasses welcome the eighth of june. of course, you are an amazing person, a psychological turning point. what a turning point sergei alexandrovich well, not yet, well, maybe no translation. it's just a story of peaceful working together on a peaceful theme. yes, yes, please, michael. i have my own opinion . curious moment. this is who everyone has been saying, uh, the us has been saying this for 15 years. uh, germany what do you have to shell out for two percent? gdp vice versa felix reacts see who likes likes such excuses that we don’t

have money before that. ah, we are comfortable with the american umbrella for 15 years. we, you said, now we heard this mess, and suddenly, after a special apparition, they found our money. here are the dividends and more about the energy dependence of germany's dependence on russia we have also been 15 years old. they talked about this in germany, don't, don't give you all the eggs in hell a russian basket. this is a vulnerable position. you have to keep cycling your sources. they said that we ourselves jesus we know no need to tell us about our energy security. and what happened, and what happened, and what happened, if you do not only? from germany to the whole european union in this it's just amazing man, what

consequences of the expert-operation you would like to offer oxygen, yes and stop the oil. yes, how the european union looks at your special operation, and they look through your eyes. the european union does not look at our special operation in any way. of course not, because you know, they are black black black armbands, and it looks like this is such a person with a twig. so from time to time, once on top of the european union, now you have to make, uh, a decision on the oil spirit. the greeks were hit. you must seize these tanks now, because these tankers are now, and the russian one seems to be like there are no arcs. you owe this oil names to us americans. and hungarians dung hungarians you must vote. well, yes. okay, okay, okay doom you have to do it

in such a way that here you don't have this oil. and here here, like such a compromise, here's how it all looks like, please, margarine, that's exactly what 's going on. now he only talks about the fact that all these years germany was right, that she boasts eggs in one basket, because, despite the fact that germany is helping ukraine , a country that, from their point of view, is at war with dreams. yes, we have a special operation. the war helps them with money, armaments, briefings and other things. russia didn’t say a word about disrupting deliveries, no matter what it was. russia fulfills all its contractual obligations. and all the violations that are a consequence of your pressure. mike can't contact you. you are twisting everyone's arms and europe understands this very well , and it is written on felix's face now, and i'm only interested in watching what happens before. we will

finally deal with all our problems , threats, the main thing, of which ukraine or europe, all this is final. rest. yes, but the americans. but everything is stable atlantic. so we are writing a title from him. i didn’t even understand at the beginning what they needed to colonize russia how to decolonize. well, they also wanted to, yes, they wanted to come up with something interesting. oh well, you came up with the idea of ​​colonizing. until the empire of moscow is on top, and the russian world is not safe, the kremlin must lose the empire that it still retains the project. yes, the colonization of russia must be finally completed, and nothing new is the key word, finally, finally, that is, they finally admit, that all this time they were engaged in, and when it was adopted by the ruled peoples. in the united states every year already. for how many decades the day of the enslaved peoples of russia has been celebrated, when they celebrate,

there i divide the urals and other things, these are all colonies that we need to get rid of. they realized that in the ninety-first year, having divided the soviet union, they did not finally kill russia, it was too big and got out of control, respectively, now they will not be satisfied only with the fact that they will change power. they need to be divided into many pieces that would be at enmity with each other, this is their goal. that's what it means to cancel russia and they open it they say in text, yes, they have something somehow that process is stalling for them, if they are all doing it, but it’s still no question, but the purpose of this is they are constantly here. here we must give them their due, they actually and consistently. they will ask roma and me, as the descendants of the so-called enslaved peoples of russia, when armenia became part of the russian empire in 1828. they also include it there . it is too. if we would not be enslaved, how are they called by russia, us roma in particular would you not have been born at all, would you

? of course this means little time, it's just that i have yes, they would be azerbaijanis, as for the flexibility, this very flexibility of russia is what everyone is waiting for. yes, about which here you are talking about some kind of flexibility from russia yes, i'm trying to understand everything, but how should this flexibility look like? well, isn’t it really the russian federation, there many, many years ago, literally the next day. after i became the soviet union, i showed such flexibility that there was simply nowhere else to go and declared that we have no interests not here, not there , or somewhere else. yes, we are now focused exclusively on our own, and problems and are ready to be friends with the whole world. and there was a price - this is the most flexibility, and then we try to cope with some of our economic problems there, we try to do something like that, but we show flexibility, because we do not prohibit the activities of various

funds on our territory of the organization yet. you are someone else someone else, and they are still trying to rock rock rock rock and rock we show flexibility when we offered them. now, if we are returning to a special operation, we offered to just sit down and agree in a good way to agree on how we will exist if ukraine gets this economic association with the eu, remember, yes, they said, let's just talk about how the goods will go across the border. how much more flexibility should there be? no, they did not want to, then throughout there already since the fourteenth year. after this coup in ukraine, we were flexible and said, let's let's try to stop this whole horror that is happening and we will begin to quietly slowly implement the minsk agreements, and we will make sure that the people's republics do not deviate, do not go left or right, but you will

also actually make sure that kiev does something , it was not flexibility for 8 years, we showed flexibility, so now we tried to agree with them again on the direction. let's try to come to an agreement. a whole list of our requirements could not, at least with some agree, they said no, but there was still some flexibility. although we already perfectly understood, in fact, where the wind was blowing, and where everything was going. and now we show flexibility every day. we say, yes, please, we are open to negotiations, but at the same time we want to understand what needs to be negotiated. let ukraine finally try to figure out what she wants to come to, and how she is going to continue to live, and we are ready to discuss this matter with them. isn't that flexibility, of course, that's flexibility. we are now talking about the referendums will be held referendums for a second. isn't that flexibility, of course,

flexibility. although they could say, no, where our army stands is the territory of the russian federation and there can be no referendums here . no, we are talking about referendums, by the way, about all of these, but regions. it's wonderful. in fact, the entire kherson region beyond a is actually under our control, and this is a fairly large territory with zaporozhye, measurable with the vladimir region of the russian federation, is almost 2/3 under our control of the donetsk republic. well, not all released, but in the process. liberation is a vast territory. lugansk region is almost 100% released except for. there are several settlements there, crimea receives drought water in crimea, there simply can’t be any more land road to crimea, and there is a wonderful story. it seems to me that such results are not bad. and in spite of everything, we continue to tell them that let's try to agree after all. let's

not bring the world to a third, but a world war before the nuclear disaster. well, what else should be. that's when they understand that this flexibility needs to be assessed and really take steps towards the russian federation, then we will all live happily ever after. well, something tells me that this will not happen soon, we meet exactly in a week in this studio. remember that all participants in our program have their own truth, but we will always get to the bottom of the truth. peter looked at the cossacks as an army subordinate to him, trying to use them in this capacity and remake them for this quality, as a result of me in little russia, the emperor fought with the cossack freemen, the struggle for the right to remain himself, not to become a uniate or a catholic, to be baptized and die according to the orthodox rite. be faithful in the memory of your fathers and lay at the foundation of all polish ukrainian wars in the first half of the 17th century.

the russian emperor built his eurasian bulk, the eternally young empire, winning a place for russia in a close circle. so to say, friends for him, ukraine was his russian land, votchina which he was not going to share with anyone. on may 30, 1672, the one whom alexander sergeevich pushkin calls a revolutionary on the throne and a northern russian giant who opened a window to europe was born peter i , it would be too presumptuous to review the entire reign of peter in one lesson, so we