what happened next was better. here is the june 9 meeting. what forecasts of our experts came true after 3 months we fall into a trap. what turned out for ukraine's irreconcilable position in the first days of the special operation. they want a stalemate while working now on them and why european politicians are constantly lying to turn ukraine into a zone of chaos. here. what is the task before them about this today in our program? hello, is this the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear? i'm andrey norkin. my colleague is ivan trushkin. we work in live. today, right now, everything is becoming clear. this is about today's program, judging by the announcement, it might have seemed to some of you, that something is not very usual, but we are planning. but if you watch constantly, then on the contrary, there is nothing surprising for you. well, nevertheless, let me remind you, it means that exactly 3

months ago on march 9, when our guests shared their vision of the development of the situation, made some forecasts, this idea arose. eh, actually. maxim anatolyevich provoked all this, because that he has there then we will remind you of this phrase. and here, let's in 3 months there 3 days before our national holiday. we'll see what people say. well, he's talking about the population, as it were. well, that's what we did, practically in the same line-up, gathered and now we'll try to understand what we managed to do, that no, the only thing i'm after all, uh. i would ask such, as it were, to show indulgence to themselves, because , well, in general, forecasts are a very ungrateful business in the current situation. moreover, here see here. only today's news. that's who this god predict. the first secretary general of nato and an old friend of our dear andrey vladimirovich, ens stoltenberg, somewhere picked up shingles. of

course, we wish him a speedy recovery, but just in case, he is close to andrei vladimirovich. yes , if they simply follow the recommendations in brussels to take a shower less often, that lichen will be more common, of course in europe. and therefore, because of this, stoltenberg canceled his visit to germany a in germany today in the western land some kind of wild, snowfall. today is june 9th. actually. look at the pictures for sure. in the news. people show it. there, coffins are being raked with shovels, trying to dig out the car. at the same time, they refuse our energy carriers. here. well, this morning the dollar on the moscow exchange fell below 59 rubles. although, as we know, biden saw grandfather at 200. here's how it could be predicted. it was impossible to predict it yesterday more than 3 months ago. well, let's go in order.

the second is then to pay attention to all these play here. i don't play here, i don't have to. it turns out that there are compromises. yes, there are compromises. for example, yesterday i was voiced from kiev with one

compromise. ukraine will not demand. uh, as they say return of the crimea and e donbas within 5 years, provided that russia undermined the documents, if such documents are signed, that in 5 years they will return voluntarily, and we don’t need a white fact right away. i'm just talking about what you don't have to count. what compromises, sir fedorov turned out to be right in the kuleba, immediately began to play up, and the meeting itself. as a result, russia ended in nothing and then handed over to kiev its proposals for resolving the conflict in writing. ukraine refused to sign anything. they were waiting for a breakthrough at the next meeting on march 29 in istanbul, then kiev for the first time already submitted its written proposals to the russian side, but later ukraine itself. it seemed, but the negotiators stopped getting in touch. here is what sergey lavrov said about the events of those days, but to conduct negotiations ukraine does not want it to refuse it, and we

have every reason to believe that it is fulfilling, thereby, the will of the anglo-saxon leadership of the western world, the anglo-saxon world, ukrainian refusal of peace negotiations, strongly supported the uk promised ukraine weapons for 100 million pounds 9 april, boris johnson arrived in kiev by train, walked with zelensky along khreshchatyk , discussed the military alliance against russia, on the same days in kiev, fanderlein and jose barrell flew to sulu, having seen enough of the specially laid out for them corpses. in the bush. they promised kiev an accelerated admission to the eu, they want a working time. now they count on them. and here mr. fedorov made a mistake in life. and the ukrainian authorities have reached a dead end, they have achieved it, but not in their favor. volodymyr zelensky just recently admitted that the ukrainian army has neither the strength nor the weapons for a counteroffensive, and the population is waiting for the most difficult winter with a shortage of gas and electricity in the country, a fuel

crisis erupted, and the hryvnia exchange rate fell by 20%. so this is our first act and, uh, back to the question, which sounded just yesterday, so andrey vladimirovich a is it true that time is working for them even now. i believe that time works for them. and by the way, uh, i see this, or rather, it is confirmed by the statement of some of our deputies, including the media that appeared today, what kind of anukhanov and others that the special military operation will end no earlier than late autumn. that is, it really is. uh, the understanding that ukraine is able to tighten everything. it 's not going to be all that fast. eh, therefore, me it seems that the question is not in the timing, but the outcome in the results. you understand the result, the result. that's how they say chicks in the fall, they think it's necessary to get there , i understand, so if time works for someone, it means that after this time it gets better and wins. yes it's not no

it's not a matter of winning. the thing is, uh, in every month now that there will be yes ukraine uh, there will be more and more opportunities for resistance for more. weapons. now the preparations for the big the number of ukrainians is one less visitor to today's news. you heard mr. reznikov , this is the so-called mister of defense of ukraine , it turned out that according to his data only 500 wounded per day and hundreds killed. so i'm afraid the decryption is good, nonetheless. i wanted to say other that according to official information. so far, ukraine is out of fifty. eh, in total. there's also 53 billion. got a billion off that's nothing like today. did you say yesterday that time works for us, right? let's have your arguments. and yesterday i

hmm, at your suggestion, i revised the program of march 9, 9, and just drew attention to the fact that you repeatedly said that all resources during the war are dynamic resources, they can increase, decrease, increase again. decrease again must be monitored in dynamics and just one of the key resources is time, because the war takes place in time not space. this is clear. uh-huh, but at this moment at this moment i changed its value to the opposite. here, i would, probably the ninth of march. agreed with andrey with reservations that hmm then, in those circumstances, ukraine reasonably believed that while working for them , now time is working for us, we know this. we know this, that in the west it is already our real opponents in the west, that is, everyone understands this before our eyes , so they begin to rustle about the subject of negotiations, they are looking for mediators, and so on and

so forth, they don’t understand this in ukraine now, but, probably, due to just personal, including sergeyevich, you now wanted to add there according to this official information here in kiev families published, what exactly 1 billion will receive, but more was promised, but actually received, it came a little more to 53 billion. these are their sources. this time. yes, 4 billion euros were transferred to ukraine during these months. 4 billion are listed. we are counted. you do not confuse us with the euro and the dollar. i'm talking about american. yes, yes, what, this is not some kind of sub-fence, sub- fence source of information about who the time is working for. i completely agree here. here with what it was formulated, that time works for the one who turns out to be a winner, if, as a result of delay, the winners turn out to

be those, then time works for them. if it turns out that we are then, accordingly, the time works for us around the clear and here again i agree the time of work. wait, sergeyevich, who is even there not on the ninth of march, maybe it started, but earlier. and what a very long time everything is going on. you see, now andrey vladimirovich is quoting a gentleman or mkhanov there, but we don’t have any and never had any approved deadlines , no one ever called once, secondly, on the decision any task needs exactly. so much time. how much is needed to solve it, and not if i say, unless you are on an exam, they gave you yourself, not here in real life we are 10 years old in real life. so, how much time do you need and about afghanistan to drive them up and say that you need to finish in a month for two for three for four. it 's just plain funny or hurtful if time

works for us. could it be that after some time (forgive me for the tautology) there will come a moment when the position of kiev will radically change, when, from of this impasse, we can now show, yes , freeze for 5 years, which means the status of crimea and so on. somehow they get back to normal. and if the negotiations resume, they will already resume with some kind of adequate kievan understanding or this is a dead end, it will be until the end until they see it in front of the people. yes, firstly, i believe that the kiev regimes are in an adequate state. they quite consciously do what they do and for the benefit of their loved ones this is the second time can the kiev regime change it is not up to him to decide, but in the west, maybe the messages that kissenger gave and now not only he is alone, many statements everywhere that it is necessary to proceed to negotiations show that the west will try to understand that time is working for us, it will try to snatch victory from us by negotiations that they

considered alexander read more about the timing. look, in order to complete the tasks set by the commander-in-chief, about one and a half thousand kilometers, it is clear that they will go unloadable step, because it is necessary to the city there, while even without resistance the city takes some time. well, that's why i figured that 10 km a day. for example, yes, there will be a calm movement. this is a calm movement. this is without a fortified area, without anything. so having divided everything, i get 5 months to come to lviv and uzhgorod , it’s just to get there, and considering that now the next e is most likely before july and the resistance will be very serious, because we have before us the two most powerful districts in the game are slavyansk motor and avdeevka but after that i don’t understand at all what ukraine is going to fight with. they now

have an average of 10-15% of military personnel for each unit. they can not renew their forces, because there is no way to train recruits with such a percentage. this is a textbook date let's move on. it's just that andrey vladimirovich here is talking about afghanistan yes, like one of those warnings on march 9 that we are falling into a trap, what is that? it will be a very long time that we did not understand, what we got ourselves into, let's let's look at the pieces, and see how it all turned out by the ninth of june. in march, those our guests who did not support the russian operation in ukraine lamented that the treacherous west had been luring russia into the ukrainian trap for a long time. and moscow, having begun the liberation of donbass, fell into it and it didn’t matter that our ministry of defense published documents of the ukrainian national guard, and there was a detailed plan for the invasion of donbass dated january of this year, and russian troops prevented the execution of this plan, let’s say, as a citizen of russia, but

nato expansion well, not warm, not cold. but what if people had died at the beginning of that operation, which seems to have been planned. this, of course, touches me. on march 9, the stories of ukrainian soldiers shooting the backs of civilians about a human shield and the women of starikov in mariupol caused not only shock, but also surprise for this spring . unfortunately, on our march broadcast, the guests still hoped that they would not have to storm the same mariupol, apparently, the door to the humanity of the ukrainian nationalists. we are not we can take kharkov just as the americans took mosulor. coffee, we can’t fight in this way in the city of kharkov with a million inhabitants in half a million mariupol, because you can imagine yes how many civilians are - these are not indifferent people for us, and to some extent, by doing so, we fall into a trap, because quickly take these cities. we can't when there in these cities. uh, firing points are predisposed to everything, and they are not

going to take them out. and this trap is very heavy the situation on may 20, the city was completely liberated, and more than 2,000 settled in the shops. azov became military and nationalist militants surrendered in a similar vein. later they will talk about the regrouping of russian troops with a withdrawal from kiev, these are undoubted signs of defeat. but a different forecast, and the likely appearance of the polish army in ukraine has received development. see. what operation was unfolding now the americans and the british tried to draw more into the conflict. what was the pressure on her, damn it, he came pressed, so that they hand over their planes to ukraine and thereby actually enter into hostilities with russia. that is, they now have one of the tasks to draw poland into the conflict in order for the conflict to expand as much as possible. time has shown that everything went to this in the middle march at the nato summit,

warsaw offered to send its peacekeepers to ukraine. however, biden and stoltenberg did not approve that polyakov did not stop. in mid- may, large-scale exercises began on the border with ukraine, and a few days later, vladimir zelensky announced that ukraine would adopt a law on the special status of the poles allowing them to hold guest posts, including work as judges, and here is the secretary of the russian security council, nikolai patrushev, states poland has begun seizing territory in western ukraine well, maksim anatolyevich, we fell into a trap. of course, well, how do we let's remember on the ninth of march, what moods we all had, but we still, we just showed you. you say we ca n't take mariupol as raku and mosul. they would have taken and released. here you are specifically. here's to you two easier,

because of this you saw photos of new year's mariupol how it was easier than it became maxim victory is not needed at such a price after mariupol was liberated. well, nevertheless, if we compare, moreover, they did not use american methods. with this you will agree. ah, well, cities are more. no. of course, i understand that this is mine, yes, yes, in a normal video, you are here go and not pictures, watch the same everything time is shown by battles. i'm already destroyed. there are already going work on the restoration of the people running around. yes , with cold shovels. everything works there. the price of victory is such that i believe that this is the first victory. well, no, why give up, but simply, if further, but at such a price it captures everything else in ukraine and transforms it. well, deja vu turned into a boundary popasnye and so on. i don't know how we can restore it later, anyway. yes, very well. in

our zone, we will restore well. these are jobs. this is the backwardness of the population. it russia i certainly understand what a graceful cynicism is in this. well, you don’t know what your request looked at the program, but such interesting statements. in general, they prove that here in the gazelle. i have worked all my life. they said the newspaper lives one day, and so something went on one day, but it’s very good that it remains somewhere and can be reviewed after three months, because of course, the most advantageous tactic for one transfer is something important fundamental says. i read a few quotes, so, uh, vitalik all rukov. that's where they sit. what did you think that zelensky is in kiev save? it 's literally 10 minutes later. yes, that is, then we had such a trick that zelensky had long since fled. he is sitting somewhere in warsaw taking off these bras, but now you all understand that he spent all this time in kiev, this may apply to him, but nevertheless it all collapses, and the deputy was sitting

where igor is now sitting, i will not call him a solid one, you know, to quote, but deputies. yes , said in relation to mariupol, you will see the results of our new tactics during the day, a lot of things passed, but for getting up, and people surrendered, there on the nineteenth-twentieth of may, the use of new tactics was against these, so the supreme commander of the gourmet. let's then block andrey vladimirovich, my beloved said, the zaporozhenye one, yeah, i already got insolent at me, i wanted, but not desperately crazy, so that zaporozhye became under control. yes, still somehow here. not yet. and the only thing here is present and talking tents said. do you think that in a few days stop the work of the nord stream one usa here

is the most interesting message is that people said then what they say now, and therefore i suggest alexander kazakov said 5 days. i'm out of another 5 months, so for 5 months. he figured we'd get there. he said not so. he said that walking pace, yes go 5 months. i'm doing this fighting. well, nevertheless. look, i'll stop now. wait so you you november 9 six months. let's see if god would tell her so that there is a rush ahead, as it were shorty hustler. wait, maxim anatolyevich , i won’t forget anything, so you know what it is, you piled everything up. we are going to take it all apart now. let's go back, so you still think that we turned out to be, she told everyone in the

previous now, all this was really stated at the beginning of the operation. it seemed that time was working against us, why could we think so, and what did we face? as a result, and why we were not trapped, we were afraid, indeed everyone was afraid of public opinion. we didn't understand how our society will react to the situation, it seemed to us that the sooner we finish this operation, the better. for us, the better for the internal situation in the russian federation , it turned out that the society accepted it, it turned out that the society raises the president, the society supports the army and the society wants a result here nadezhda he would say no one supports there, yes, they are just numbers there for 2 weeks, in short, you end up in a trap. we definitely didn't hit. this operation can take as long as colleagues say, as long as it must pass this first. well, the second thing about , uh, in general, probably, the assessment of the current case . that we learned a lot. well, yes, and now,

right now, and the commander-in-chief of the supreme and general staff, they are already drawing their conclusions based on the knowledge that they received during the hostilities. in the first months. it always happens in any conflict plans are adjusted. and now we already understand where everything is going, we understand, in general, the goals and objectives, and therefore, i think that the most important thing is that everyone is convinced of one thing. uh, that was right decision. here are my conclusions. we can do in three months. let's not then. now let's show another story. yes, this is exactly what maxim anatolyevich tried to jump on the absent one here. uh, vital andreevich is using. in general, in this dispute, right. as it turns out now, zelensky is the whole thing. all this time he was in kiev, which means he was all the time. well, well, not all the time, but often he is in kiev, we know that now we had

such an argument then. ears of kyiv panic that they are nothing control, and here is one of the, uh, arguments that zelensky, it means that he screwed it somewhere? the main intrigue of the beginning of march in kiev or president zelensky, the first lady elena zelenskaya, was noticed just at the same time on the cote d'azur in nice , it seemed that the ukrainian authorities had already lost control of what was happening in a panic, and the president either dug in a bunk somewhere in poland or records his video messages from the residence in istanbul you claim that he is in kiev here you are, in front of tv viewers, confirm that he is in kyiv by some facts. i confirm that he is in kiev and his entire team is. why does zelensky’s delegation fly in on a nato helicopter from poland because they are such an interesting helicopter, everyone is there time has shown that our ukrainian voice was right here too. elena

zelenskaya urgently returned to the country so as not to compromise her husband, however, zelensky himself, even being in kiev feverishly tried to improve things at the front, in addition to general mobilization announced february 25 more. the ukrainian security forces actively introduced us battalions of criminals and foreign mercenaries into the ranks of the army of militants. well, weapons were completely distributed to everyone. after that, ukraine was swept by a wave of crime, the fighters of the defense were especially distinguished. they were engaged in looting material terrified the civilian population. our experts spoke about this too . anarchy and local lawlessness is anarchy and local lawlessness were sanctioned from the very top, and were provoked from the top, when in but in kiev they simply put boxes with machine guns on the boulevards when they released tornadoes, who were convicted by their own ukrainian

court for lawlessness, in general, they released an incredible terrible crime. they didn’t know that they would immediately start robbing you, they knew perfectly well, i repeat once again their goal. more precisely, their owners, so that as much blood as possible can be shed to turn ukraine into a zone of chaos. here. what task is set before them , while the americans themselves are talking about security guarantees, despite all the chaos, occurring in the country, in some regions, the authorities tried to maintain control over the situation. this happened even in the liberated territories. in kherson melitopol, the energy workers tried to hold pro-ukrainian rallies, but with the advent of the new administration, the underground nationalists disappeared somewhere, one of the main oppositionists. berdyansk vitaliy shevchenko completely went over to our side. now he calls for cooperation with russia to establish a peaceful life. so the most important thing here is, not where is it, who is physically located, in what

place. and what influence does it have? therefore, now alexander nikolayevich and what is the extent to which the kiev authorities control in the country at the front in society? that's what you think, well i think they retain control of the part that didn't change was it got smaller it got bigger. so you think, and well, probably it still remains. and yes, about the same. but kiev also mobilized and oriented. uh, what i know from the situation is, uh, in areas that are resisting. in general, there are more or less normal life, as for, uh, the crimes of the sulfur defense detachment, uh, then, at least in the nikolaev region, it is precisely the defense, and cases of looting, robbery of stores , and so on have been prevented. and when it is logical now for you, they

provide humanitarian aid supplies not from russia, but from poland, the ukrainian government. then it is logical to ask you, again, you did not answer for whom the time of work. now if we take into account e, then how do you say that the influence of the authorities cannot accurately answer this question for other reasons, but first, because i don't believe in ukraine's military victory in any case perfectly. realizing that for russia there is no bar of unacceptable losses of material human beings, what losses are not unacceptable for russia. and here is the second one, because the plans for the provision of western assistance, including armed ones, are either insufficient or too late, i understand they promised to close it no. yes, the same question about control. first, well, in a dispute

on the topic, is kiev in control of the situation or not? i'm still on the side of those who claim that there is no control. well, or at least not in control, directly directly indirectly came to kharkiv, fired him there or in zaporozhye where the local zelensky, of course, was delegated such an opportunity to decide some. yes, u make decisions at the local level cadres. the decision, including e, see i judge globally, that is, when you articulate at the highest level both in the usa and even in ukraine it somehow slips that only help helps us to hold on from the outside, it’s seriously impossible to say that you influence something, do you understand? well, maybe only for distribution inside. yes, we are doing some varnish. all at once, it seemed so long ago that the fuel that is on its territory. there, they were asked to send authorities to other regions of ukraine to remove them from the carpathians. we are, as far as i

understand. uh, the amount of this collected fuel is more than the transcarpathian region itself needs. that is, they, in principle, could share, but then they don’t, but this the question of control, again, they talk about control over the situation. i mean control. here is globa in the global sense of the word, it does not exist, that is, when you have all the benefits that come from abroad , you only hold on to them. and you have and you control only e, which means, well, it is possible to redistribute these benefits to someone to give to someone not, inside the country, this is not. here is a comprehensive control next, as for the hit? are we in a trap or, uh, so, uh, who does time play for? i understand that those who claim that we are in a trap and time plays against us guided by a certain logic. it is very primitive, but i will explain it exists. so, the longer the fighting goes on . so, the more resources we spend. uh, so, uh, the situation in society becomes no clearer, because it says anchor well, this is it, i reproduce it, as i think. yes, the country is

opposed to the logic of maxim yusin. they are very eloquent about this, as it comes back to haunt us, we spend money, then the sanctions continue. so, accumulate and the effect of them is revealed by measure. means how, uh, means, well, here we are in this state. the longer, the cooler in this sense, but limit yourself to making a statement of this magnitude only by this logic. wrong why because in order to make such a large-scale statement that we are in a trap, we are bogged down in this second afghanistan, you need to at least understand the scale of our goals, if we understood them, if it were articulated, and you understood. here. by the way, i don’t really understand here where to get uzhgorod from there, what we have on you articulate at the highest level, we will reach uzhgorod, but this is not the case. well, i did not have such questions. maxim decided that i announced the end date. oh, and we're moving on. although he said that it is far to reach a far distance and

to assume well, these assumptions again crawl out incorrectly. yes, they. they don't know. these calculations do not correlate with the topic of our program. why do we have to follow the facts? yes, if it is not articulated at the highest level, there the husband says lvov and so on. we don't have this distance. well, where well statement. vladimirovich yakut ukrainians, in this statement it was literally not the militarization of ukraine and now a small detail, they didn’t explain to us, they didn’t explain to us. i'm not saying i have to or not. i'm just proceeding from the fact that they didn't explain to us, demilitarization is until when is it 100%, 60

. countries and nine lithuanizations ukraine by 34%. ukraine further 576 m². they didn't tell us. they didn't tell us what is included in this concept, there is no ukraine, denafification and demetalization. a clear one, therefore, not knowing all the whole scale of the goal for the plan. this is demilitarization. here, in what format is the densification of the identification of germany, but if you e from all these explanations that sounded, so much turned out to be incomprehensible. you probably don't have the right. eh, to reproach the same yushin for primitive logic. well look , based only on a very fuzzy something, that one can, yes, think and interpret. and what the guys have on the one hand, i have on the one

hand, but on the denification of ukraine on the other hand. there is a statement by the supreme commander that we are not going to occupy territories there, then it is understandable. you know putin yeah well, there will be a lot about it. yes, we expected that on may 19 it will be. or maybe we’ll slow down already, my friends, let’s make a stop, then we’ll disassemble the other pieces more tactfully. don't miss out on central television washington is looking for friends, which will help bring down world oil prices in the united states. after all, otherwise, the state of emergency declared by paiden. the korean scenario for ukraine for ukraine the costs of the

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where everything becomes clear. how easy is a person made happy? well, because no. you are not a finger. they showed us a little, they provoked everyone, but i'm on the side of the cossacks. let's move on. everything. let's move on now. um, let's break it down. er, related to our expectations and the reality of the behavior of european leaders. that is what they were saying what they were doing, here, uh, then 3 months ago on the 9th of march and what they say, what they are doing now changes are probably impossible even for people who have experimented. uh, logic and bad eyesight. let's see, on the very first day of our special operation in ukraine, french macron's president, who judged russia's action, said that

he was in solidarity with kiev and is doing everything to put an end to the war in april against the backdrop of a growing global crisis and successes in our army. on the macro front. he suddenly started talking about neutrality, and last saturday he even hinted that he should not quarrel with russia. we must not humiliate russia so that on the day of the cessation of hostilities. we could find a way through diplomacy. i am convinced that the role of france is to be an intermediary force for a man with low social responsibility. to name the head of european diplomacy, josep barali at the beginning of march. he said that anti-russian sanctions had reached the limit, and a day later he announced a new package of restrictions, but the most luxurious one. history is when barrel firmly and clearly stated that the european union would not buy russian gas and not for rubles, and would generally refuse. within two years, europe will refuse russian gas and oil. we are very dependent on them , and now it turned out that russia is an unreliable partner, so we are trying to diversify resources.

several hours passed before barrel denied it. the mule of refusing gas from russia will not begin with the fact that these are not only energy products, gas cannot be replaced by something else in the petrochemical industry, the closing of the russian gas valve is currently not being discussed with the issue of ukraine's admission to the european union , the same chikhard . 4 days after the start of the special operation, zelensky solemnly signed an application for eu membership. then the head of the european commission raided kiev. ursula von der, lined and handed zelensky questionnaire or ukraine's entry into a single european family, it usually takes years before the eu accepts an application for membership, but ukraine did it in a week or two and i ask you to move forward as quickly as possible is our goal. it is worth ukraine's application to the council this summer. a month later, it suddenly dawned on raursulu that the process of joining the european union takes several years. in

general, ukraine needs to do a lot to get there in order to become an offensive candidate, it takes some time, but i wanted to i would like to emphasize that a lot depends on ukraine itself, on how it will be able to recover after the end of this war, what we will help it with, how it implements the reform, get rid of the oligarchs, how it will carry out the necessary economic transformations, so igor sergeevich but this is a the breadth of views that european politicians and officials demonstrate, either so to speak, or like that surprises you, or this norm does not surprise at all. and by the way, to say no particular latitude and views. well usually they condemned there, then a little so, then that, first they banned gas there, then they allowed gas, no, no, but i think that the west and brussels and its washington and berlin and paris quite clearly and consistently draw the same line so for the purposes openly marked the abolition of russia and not one iota, they

did not move away from this. even when the brush engineer now offers negotiations, it is not that they are abandoning this goal. they just realized that now it doesn’t work out, respectively, you need to fix and save them, so to speak, than mr macron, who we have depicted here, retreated from this intransigence of his in the february beginning of march, did not simply retreat. well, how do you understand? keep pushing. what does it mean, insidious criminal state we should not. you can wait. let it be them then you will press simply. uh, stupid sheep who will fight against the gate, no matter what, he understands that now it doesn’t work out. so we need to change tactics. that's all, the strategy not for iota has not changed. i strongly disagree that a single approach in the west in the west, absolutely clearly. in my opinion there are two parties. now they have designated one, but this is not my idea, but another political scientist there, but i consider him one is

the armistice party, the other victory party in their understanding with russia is france germany italy austria hungary even there from southern europe you can states these are those, well , basically yes. basically, these are old europe. yes, but in general, those who believe that life does not end there. while they absolutely do not approve of what happened on february 24, but they know that russia will not disappear anywhere. this one hundred, forty-six million states will exist when this nightmare is over, and we will again agree to have the victory party in ukrainian. uh, polish british about submission, yes. so they believe that russia should be squeezed to wait for the moment when the economy begins to collapse, and then, against this background, provoke a maximum crisis with the exit of national republics. there are contradictions here, because you said, and you said that the same thing you said different so

walk, who is all included in this second batch. these, of course, are the poles of the balts - this is great britain - this is part, but not all, of the american administration and in the american administration. there are healthier ones. uh. what are you trying to say, that you are an active novice, that this is the first party of a truce? it is strong enough to resist the victory party in the ukrainian sense already. yes, of course, she, of course, now. well, look how, in general, and sparing one can say, this sixth package of sanctions turned out to be, how long it took was accepted, and as a result, many principled see nothing sparing will not be precisely under the influence of this truce party vladimirovich does not consider anything sparing in the sixth package. that's because those exceptions that would make for hungary bulgaria is a temporary exception, which is

still a trap. in this sense, it will slam shut for them too. and moreover, not so fast not so fast, yes, and now a respite for half a year is one key meal she is now sure that he will be in august. here necessarily yes, and there will be gas and partially gas will be partially, gas will be. not completely partially there will be gas and problems. if you don’t want to help clear the snowdrifts now that just now igor and i agree, the strategy does not change. and step by step step by step the pressure will only increase. no need to have any illusions. moreover , there is no need to repeat. you don't have to listen to macron. sorry what is this for? well, because the child is only in your order. listen, really. well, polyakov also needs to be listened to. by the way, yes, yes, i find it absolutely useless man, which oscillates along with the line of the party. as

they say, as he remained in power for a generation, so for sure, i remember that he was fused. well , right there after the first year, so to speak, some of it remained. well, it's not fair for most of france, it still exists. yes, there now. eh, something too would like what? uh, it's just that there is, as it were, an unconditional enemy who leads the camp. yes, uh, that one, and he is irreconcilable, because his leading position in the world is at stake and there are opponents. i mean, yes, here are the countries of europe of the old world who are our adversaries, insofar as they are deprived of sovereignty and are now completely oriented. yes, definitely ours. this is an unreconcilable enemy, but, of course, it works there, because it is impossible to act otherwise against russia, they still understand that a number of decisions are against their national interests, if they were

sovereign sovereign ones, then they would really be pro-personal stavnyaks , always more conversation, acting politics. we angela merkel appeared in public for the first time, in fact, after resignation with such a long interview, they didn’t ask a lot of questions about the current situation in the world about how she interacted with russia during her chancellorship. well, let's take a look at the selected places. the journalist who asked merkel questions reproached the former chancellor, saying that in 2008 she denied ukraine the opportunity to join nato, but merkel believes that she did everything right then. but then ukraine was a country ruled by oligarchs, and here you can’t just say. tomorrow we will take from you do not, so i was strictly against this, another argument against ukraine's membership in nato, according to merkel, is the position of vladimir putin, she supposedly understood that russia was sharply opposed to her reaction, it is difficult to predict the sun , i was of the opinion that i want to prevent escalation is impossible. just like that one day to join nato president. an american recently said that

if only ukraine were a member of nato, we would actively defend it with our soldiers today, but this is a long process, and i knew that during this process, putin would do something that would be bad for ukraine, therefore, i was against merkel and said that after the referendum in crimea, her relationship with putin allegedly cooled down a lot and remained purely working. at the same time, she believes that the minsk agreements were their correct ones. i think if in 2014 or early 2015, when we were working on the second minsk agreement, nothing would have moved putin could have caused huge damage to ukraine and these 7 years were extremely important for the development of ukraine interviews. merkel was not to the liking of the ukrainian ambassador to germany liver sausage. he did not name the former chancellor, but after that she was too soft with vladimir putin, and now they say merkel is making excuses for the sins of power, alexander, and what a cool thing? i didn't see the picture. i just now it's just an interview author. yes it is the population there.

indeed, it is like a theater and people are watching it, and this is the first time i have, however. this is the voice of the same truce party that maxim anatolyevich spoke, or just an attempt by a lady to say my hut is on the edge. i do everything right. sorry, i'm good. first, maxim can not be shy and say who is the name of that political scientist, who was the first to talk about the parties of the world, yes, 2 days after the speech. uh, in henry kissinger's davos and the first publications in the new york times. i talked about this on all broadcasts, including yours. by the way, even deployed quite emiral. this is the current and it was not. it was formed, along the way, a special military operation, at the same time , it begins to dawn on them that the result is a foregone conclusion , and then the peace party naturally appears in order to to save at least something from that with the victory. yes , as usual, with regard to merkel, i think that she was simply dragged by the ears into the light of the ramp in the truest

sense of the word. and why would she justify herself, for example, so that on the one hand she could support salt a little with her interview, well, like a german, at least? yes, they are of a different party, because it can be a very difficult situation, why are they political opponents of the cruelest russians maxim hear the russian language, i believe that both in our country and in germany people first the germans, and then the party leaders. i'm talking like a german, and not like, uh, the former leader of the cdu, here in the spd we have too. i hope that at first people are still citizens of russia and then they are divided along party lines. so here it is, it is she who could support the properties, because now the position of scholz and i think that merkel is secretly supporting him. this is to delay any assistance to ukraine as much as possible and wait. now the military today it was written that there are some deliveries again from the lack of software before the winter, something

the software that is obtained with an open visor will fly to the concrete wall. these are the poles, because they are, as it were, all sozh bridges, they will fly into a concrete wall. uh, direct fire, the rest have a backlash, defined by everyone, yes, and we talked about it here. now the whole world has switched to standby mode and hope that, uh, the special operation will end this year this year, and not on the eve of the day, the militia alexander nikolayevich really has a peace party truce because if look at things that way, then merkel is such yes, the impression is that there really is a very serious tactical disagreement within, uh, european and western society, but the point is that regardless of

tactical events, we are discussing here only on a scale russia's conflict in ukraine and on the scale of russia's situation in europe russia in the world. i just don’t need to talk about the whale india here about these ones, i don’t need to, we won’t upset you, because they are unpleasant for you there. eh, if not consider that these are mentioned, then russia obviously suffered a political moral defeat, because there is not a single state, not a single political figure, not a single political force that would say, well, maybe even apart from serbia but yes, and then with big reservations that i would say, yes, russia is right, yes, the donbass should have been, we don’t want to. i’m looking at photographs, uh, a new social advertising company in france. there are no cities listed there, but at public transport stops there, uh, big ones

joyful faces of people, it must be said already at the age of the elderly, it says yes a my uh daughter is a transgender and something blah-blah-blah some phones there. yes, my roommate is a lesbian. fuck, i need people to approve my actions of my country, who, that's all, that's it, i don't know what it is, how the goal is imposed. what a moral issue. this is not the defeat of russia in the first place, no one in russia, no lesbians. this transgender people are not imposed. it is impossible for me to impose transgender people. if only to look at uh, why do i need their moral approval of these people, because, well, we are completely different. absolutely not, there are, but they think that this is good for them. and i think that this is good, and they will never call my good this good, because they cannot understand it. i also think that transgender lesbians are bad.

i also believe that western democracy in its current form should be well, why then do we need its approval associated with ukraine russia acted as an aggressor and russia is a source and the embodiment of evil from their point of view, so from their point of view, the devil knows that alexander nikolayevich is there, from the point of view of many of our viewers, the embodiment of evil is you, yes, and when everyone here does not agree with you, no one, not a single person here agrees with you . you feel defeated when you leave here, you leave the city with your head up tar. what are you telling us about defeat now? well, alexander nikolaevich well, i don’t want relations with anyone who considers me the embodiment of evil, you want relations with europe and us no seems not to be. if not, then well, we sometimes have their relationship. if they are if they are swan lake, wait alexander nikolaevich

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be absolutely no one left behind. what have the sanctions against russian energy carriers turned out to be for the west. they need to be turned off; it will turn off for six months and that's it. whether the attitude of europeans to the ukrainian issue has changed due to the crisis, no economic logic, which we now rely on , works and how the special operation affected the russian economy. i see absolutely battle history because there is a market for it right now. this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. we continue almost all the topics of this hour that we listed in the announcement, but there will also be this piece about the public mood in our country. we just didn't put it in the announcement now. so let's take the sixth and no sanctions on these packages, wait, and the fifth has already been also during this time. no. i understand

this is the fifth and sixth they have both taken this time in these three months. here, that is, here, here is the intention there to abandon russian energy resources, and so on, what happened? the fact that americans will have to pay much more for biden gasoline. blamed vladimir putin back in march. this thesis, then repeatedly sounded from the words of the american leader and other us officials on the europeans, the americans promised to put pressure on them to give up russian resources. in return, they promised their liquefied. true, the gas is american at the same time, the press wrote that america could not physically replace russian supplies, then hotheads in our studio demanded that the west be blocked from accessing our energy resources. they will need to be treated. it will be off for half a year, and all us fuel prices skyrocketed right after the recent sanctions. they beat another record and hit $5 some americans are heading to neighboring mexico in pursuit of cheap fuel, according to a recent wall street poll.

jornul showed that almost 85% of us citizens consider the current state of their economy deplorable. weiden, all these months, tried to solve the ones he created with his own hands. the energy crisis at the expense of other oil suppliers, a replacement for russian resources, he was looking in venezuela and earlier in the middle east, but in vain he called the saudis, they called him, they sent him no. well, yo-mine, writes that his sent. and what about the fact that biden called late in the evening. yeah, you can't change. wake the world in the evening. let's wake up the arab sheikhs to the biden, it was not possible in the united arab emirates during this time the president was replaced; he became the crown prince mohammed benzoid al-khayyam, who called russia his second home. batin failed to release iranian oil on the market to persuade tehran washington promised to resume nuclear deals, but iran is not ready to negotiate

without russia's participation unfortunately, some countries, who could help america just don't answer the phone, it's hard not to notice saudi arabia teasing the biden administration. you can say whatever you want, but this would not have happened to donald trump, meanwhile the day before. the price of oil for the first time in 3 months exceeded $ 120 per barrel to cope with the shortage of fuel the united states is looking for workarounds for new suppliers for america , india has become india, which buys oil from russia and then resells it to the american market. first, special operations on the rate of russian oil in deed. by 20%, they exceeded deliveries for the entire last year, but the us experience for europe did not become a good lesson, as predicted in our studio, the eu at the end of may nevertheless decided on the energy emba that biden says that europe is not ready yet. the key here is that the european union has already been presented with a plan according to which

they are trying to knead our gas before the end of the year, and in the future they will try to refuse completely. i can honestly tell you that it will be great. expensive it will be very painful for them, but if desired and with high motivation in 2-3 years, dependence on our supplies will easily leave, but easily. i mean, they can do it, what happens is a very simple thing, no economic logic that we now rely on works. now there is exclusively political logic in the framework of the global military-political war, where everyone has raised the stakes. i mean , from the other side they go to destruction. so don't get anyone bach yeah right now really. the main thing is who will be the first to give slack. hope that it is we will not. and you say, you listened to yourself with such interest, of course, you always know, i spoke, by the way,

saying, they didn’t impose enough, they predicted everything accurately enough. here, well, there is a wonderful military-political war. but we write off this excitement. not no it's just the political has the right. now. you speak correctly, so you don’t need such a question. a question like this 3 months ago, as far as the west a assumed, what would be the consequences of its own sanctions policy against us. the fact is that these consequences no one calculated, that is, they did not think at all that there would be some kind of reverse effect on the quality of those people who make decisions today in the west, of course, in the west. there are smart people, they sit somewhere in the ministries. no one listens to them, because, as i said, the political prevails economically, but now this trend is breaking down a bit. now they still have there , er, three political situation. they give this

slack that you are talking about, or am i ahead of the curve while they say that someone 20:30 is not comes that changes, as it were, slack, i mean that here the people came out and demanded a change in the police. no, of course not yet. this is weakness. this is just something like this. here there is a wind, and there is a breeze. here is a breeze, there is a wind. no, of course there is, because they still have such a small accumulated. well , what a weakness? denmark poland the netherlands calmly abandoned russian gas and everything else began to pay in rubles, what gas is obtained and plus american gas. i want not comes, despite the fact that all our forecasts to date, the gas storage of the european union is filled with more than 50%. this is a very high

figure at the beginning of july, thanks to which and thanks to the fact that they are pumping, including liquefied gas, and so on, thanks to the fact that they are pumping gazprom's gas, like crazy well, andrey vladimirovich, and, of course, they are still pumping individual countries the same with saudi arabia. and so on next week, all over this historic visit. yes, which is already endured. it will be next week, apparently. andrey vladimirovich, do not disgrace yourself, wait, not calmly, they will agree that saudi will increase oil production for this, everything will be absolutely fine. trust me, it does. how many people do not pick up the phone in the evening, yes, and venezuelan oil began to be bought well and other things by india. sorry , the share of our deliveries in india is only 3% of the purchases of the indians, so i'm back to my favorite

pre-war practice. anyway, we came back to argue with you. well, first of all, you said so confidently more. uh, the netherlands, denmark, have already refused to give up on ours from gazprom's gas, but they receive gazprom's gas. all third countries through germany ivanovo gas via nord stream. one that for some reason was not closed is going safely in germany, what are you right about? this, of course, yes, but they raised the occupancy of their gas storage facilities to 50%, basically, this is really to a significant extent, asia and this, and it puts a lot of pressure on their budgets, but they realized that if they don’t provide it now, it will be worse, because we won’t help them in the autumn-winter period, so well, at least at

any price saudi americans indians, what say, well, about the oil of the jews, americans and indians, because there is. sorry, that's what i said. i will say that such a complex game is underway, indeed today there was information that russia refused further contracts with india because this is it. might be too high. it already seems to be unprofitable for us, because we need them very cheaply in the current situation. ours is not, and this uh indicates that indirectly, of course, but we can conclude that obviously russia has other potential buyers, yes, that is, in the middle of the short term, the situation economically is not so bad in the long term, i have no illusions here . no, it's terrible and hopeless. that is, somewhere from the next there and we will reach yes, we will reach, but now you understand how to look into the next year. or maybe we won’t live to see it. some numbers i’ll

bring now a small one safely. the next month the next six months - it will generally be excellent. you urgently six months. everything will be fine. you and i will still have the results in a year, in five sergeyevich, so, as it were, with such figures, april, and naftogaz sales of 1.8 trillion rubles. this is uh, 600 billion more than in march for january. in april, the federal budget received half of the total planned. for the current year, you know the amount, it will all end quickly or in at the beginning of the year, we discussed with you. hmm , the world bank's forecast of a 50% increase in energy prices, the forecast has been fulfilled. half a year has passed, the plan has been completed ahead of schedule. it was called the good old days, so we get nature to celebrate new year's eve somewhere in october. we have the plan of these international american analysts, he

has fulfilled the new half of the year ahead, where the plan can be doubled. that is, even more prices will be world prices for oil, respectively , we will have even more revenue. i know there is predictions that midsummer is the peak. and then , to be honest, 2008 should be repeated, and it will be sure that it will be so. i think that even if the growth will not be less freedom, yes, it still means, uh , revenue growth for russia, simply because the west can, uh, stop your uh, printing press say pot don't boil like a girl, uh, in good old german fairy tale and today i could not say, how to make it so that, uh, as it was called good old german fairy tales. they are, of course, terrible. then children. there you will be taken to the forest so that they die of hunger there, always a little frightened by the tales of the brothers grim and steel and stroked. well, the fact is that the same thing happened and is happening in the economy as in the military-political sphere. that is, they are trying to outplay us and sit out and take

measures that they think. they should give to us in the first place, not considering. uh, well, some accidents, maybe yes , i don’t know some factors, some third forces. well , for example, today in the united states burned down such one of e gas production plants and the price of liquefied gas. yes tomorrow means burned down such. well, bitterness was burning in the end. it will help the price rise, it just happens to be incomprehensible there. here it didn’t catch fire at low prices, but at high prices it caught fire, that is, it’s very logical, well, a serious plant that will affect the world market will affect the market and there may be such, well, yes, but for some reason, for some reason, our e european. uh, i don't know, they used to say partners, now we're talking, what's the name of now they say, bastards and yes, like a geek

, geek bastards, it means that for some reason they have hope that , well, i know, of course, i know why should he hit us. here, it seems to me, here the same story is working for us fat, about which they say, here is someone, in my opinion, you said a prophet, he is also present in the russian economy. it turns out he is present. this is very surprising for europeans. i think they took how much this time will help the europeans to feel sober, and after a while how to strengthen the businessman's observer. maxim yusin argued the opposite, saying that certain values ​​​​and beliefs were formed in europe. and most importantly enough fat layer and the first waves of the crisis, the europeans, will not stop you from many european friends. i suspect that you and them are there anyway, who talk to you in damned russian, nevertheless. you are

texting. here, maybe they are at the level of slogans. i'm ready to believe it, ready to support invaded and so on. but when they get the new bills, the lighters will see the new prices. i have a suspicion maxim anatolyevich, can you tell me yes or no? i have a suspicion that the question of ukraine and what is happening there? what photos will start to worry? much less than what they used to give, which means conditionally 300 euros for heat and light, and now they give 4. i understand this logic. i would very much like it to be so, but it will not be so it will not be absolutely. they have enough body fat to to stifle now this year, which will be the most difficult for them to stifle these consequences, and then they hope, and i think that without stopping. unfortunately, we suddenly they us, however, time has shown that the europeans' own satiety is more important than the salvation of the suffering ukrainians. poland from

july 1 stops paying ukrainian refugees. the mid-june allowance completely closes the center that receives refugees last week bulgaria, which previously hospitably provided ukrainian refugees with blood in hotels by the sea. i decided to relocate them to container cities with barbed wire and outdoor amenities, and the swiss authorities announced that they would take away the status of refugees from ukrainians. how do you think wins now. european refrigerator propaganda of european tv is clear that it did not win, but there is something of progress, look how uh, on march 9 there was no bump after boo- butch, of course, a splash solidarity with the ukrainians is not love for us, has reached its maximum. now it is falling again. that's why somewhere, anyway, emotions that have risen since the time of butch, they prevail in many countries, somewhere pragmatism is already beginning to remind of itself.

that's what uh is there in bulgaria and so on, yet ukrainians continue to pay only uh, when i was walking before the program this morning, i was talking to my girlfriend, who is a ukrainian refugee in germany with two children. well, 1.700 euros per month. she gets three. yes, all such here is the agenda scheme here are a few there. what kind of housing is compensation, what is it? eh, it's just that every person, well, 500 euros is paid by the german budget and will pay. that is, but somewhere else there is enough of this solidarity, and i think that, nevertheless, in rich countries, such as germany, this is enough of this, another thing, of course, is that it was impossible to predict on march 9 that the ukrainian elite so boorish will behave towards those who give them money. well, you couldn't have predicted what not only the half-crazy ambassador your friend said,

he looks like. oh yes, we met. here he was always like this, uh, a specific case, well, what about the minister of foreign affairs kuleba. this is president zelensky and several officials from the office of president zelensky at once will communicate so boorishly and you don’t speak with the french and germans, and it was impossible to predict, and it seems to me that this is the main point that the ukrainians have become insolent. this is something that can turn somehow here, and the mood. european american turns out that uh all our arguments are there that's what it was 8 years, uh in the donetsk republics, the facts are now being revealed. by the way, and about the same bucha, because there was already an expertise and their version was called into question, this all had no effect. but now they are offended by such swells are rude, they are there around and this will change their relationship. somehow petty. it's, well, small. i'm

talking, i'm talking as of today. i don’t know, maybe my comment was not read by businessmen i got a call from a french journalist, in general she was one of the presenters excited some strange musical numbers. since yesterday. i actually sorted it out, by the way, by the way, hacked also one of the signs of ukrainian idiocy, if they invade and hackers, uh, one of the most decent radio stations of merchants. one of the most decent. you want to say loyal idiotic songs, but this does not increase sympathy for them, even the novorossiysk population knows how. you see, this again suggests that now this new trend, which i caught, means they had an end says that there bucha is all that, then it ’s customary to go your own rut. i’m a new trend, when a french journalist calls me, who doesn’t sympathize with the lipen or melenchon at all and

says indignantly, you heard what zelensky said about our macron. well, you can’t talk like that about the president of the french republic. for me , this is an indicator in the end that i didn’t find a european one. i found american and the usa with the center for sociological research at the university of chicago to take measurements constantly. so should the us play a significant role in ukraine? if in march more than sixty percent were in favor of this, it fell to 45% only in mid-may. even now, these figures led, even then, i just came to the conclusion that this trend. this is an absolutely normal thing, because in the usa in the usa this war is very far away. and what is happening now in ukraine is a european war, and here it is partly accepted, partly. i most of the time now ordered metering. well, if the measurements were made before, ask the same questions today, then in europe, well, a significant number of the european garden. i am i don’t take poland, of course, with some kind of there, or sweet lithuania. here, and i mean, serious old europe there. i think that the figure has also fallen there, because it still bothers b, because

, well, after all, the economic situation is not so simple, and everyone understands perfectly well, that it is cause and effect. he sees that the measures that the west is taking, even if they are against russia they see these measures, if they work, it ’s very bad, but in general they don’t work, they hit like a boomerang, so, of course, there are certain apathy, even growing. but it's easy, if the ukrainians are less rude, there will be no more rudeness, at the same level it remains approximately the same and there will not be some new buchik, which means how. gives a feeling to the eyes. ay-ay-ay, my god, then all this will go further downward. i understood you correctly, uh comrades from ukraine rudeness. approximately the same all the time, yes, not now, i will increase it and people are different , correct, if earlier it is basically chemical chronic now. and what

do you know about it? well, because it this is exactly the same place and our military experts correctly say that if so to speak, someone will get shells in these nulls. sorry, there will be nights, then we will finish everything the same as i would like to say. we are now discussing emotional behavior. yes, what happens back. well, there is also, uh, the behavior is a little different. behavior of business, because you and i understand that, unlike the population of buchi, non-buchi and so on, business. always still very pragmatic fit there is. no, no, it's confirmed. behavior, because after all, these three months are the maximum number of companies, but they tried. well, i don’t take 10% of those who right away categorically packed their things and left, yes, or

succumbed to pressure, and so on, the main part was still in the waiting period. and now what we are seeing is that this arrow is starting to move towards the fact that they are beginning to understand that this is a very long time and they are starting to leave guys, i'll wait now. i'm andrey ivanovich now wait for god's sake, wait give me a sec. i turn to my editorial colleagues. and let's do a feint with our ears and make this piece. let's show it now. here are the plots of the next one yes, but about the public mood then in the next one, elena nikolayevich just started talking about it, and i think that we have a plot. let's see then. our guests were arguing especially sharply about whether russia would dare to nationalize foreign enterprises that had left our market, and whether this would all work normally? at the same time, the thesis sounded that western companies were not ready lose business in russia the vast majority

lose. the russian market does not want, they understand what to come here. the next time, in fact, it may not work. well, mcdonald's when they say that they will pay 62,000 people a salary to these people is not exactly that they are afraid of our legislation, because for them it is the largest, in general, simply the largest market in general in europe and everywhere this prediction is partially. it came true that french brands announced in april that they were leaving russia. allah setan, just changed the name of enakiritsu and continued to work mcdonald's too, in fact, he just changed the brand and the owner of the first 15 catering outlets with an updated menu in moscow and the region and they promise on russia day on june 12, the day before, the department of retail real estate nightframe crash announced that they would resume their work in russia spanish retail clothing chain inditex. it includes brands such as zara and massimo dutti. they promise

to open the first store in june. another topic that our experts discussed 3 months ago is the automotive industry, a simple example, but we will nationalize the volkswagen plant in kaluga, what will we do with it? sorry, you can’t produce anything else on it, except for volkswagen, in order to produce chinese cars on it, you need to invest a lot of money. and here is the outcome with volkswagen plants in russia at the end of may, the german company announced that it would not leave our country, but due to logistical problems, it would freeze production until the end of the year today. it is known that an employee of the volkswagen plant in nizhny novgorod was offered compensation for voluntary redundancy during this month, workers who are hired before june 17 will receive six salaries up to 29. five other foreign automaker renault has decided to sell its russian assets. in particular, his moscow plant. moved to the balance of the city authorities. now they will produce cars under the soviet brand there. moskvich 3 months ago, our

experts believed that despite the difficulties, russian business would be able to establish high-quality work in the changed conditions. now i can say and the main part of the entrepreneurs who are engaged in production here inside russia yes , very many generally see great prospects. well, really, because we have a strong food processing. yes, we are dependent on some ingredient in the package. we go on and on, but i see an absolutely combat history, because the market appears. yes, it will be difficult to pay. everyone understands this but what is our business. in 3 months it will be on a completely different level. and many niches will be able to close, well, the priority goods are definitely we will have problems. where there is high technology now, there really is where serious capital investment is needed. this is where it gets difficult. do not close here. here we need another

program of the state. but what our people are dressed, shod, fed will be for sure. i'm sure of it and plus one more question. you know, but they will see their payment there, i can tell you that business is now the same german business, when they calculate, they understand that it is better to close many enterprises today, because such prices for energy carriers, business will not make ends meet, therefore, a search for a compromise will begin. one small addition to this story, it means that the spaniards are here, which are zara and that there is an array of blows, they don’t seem to confirm, on the contrary, they made a statement last night something like that, so they didn’t yell about something else about something else. talk about something else in the auto industry, please, yesterday's decision of avtovaz to start production of lada granta classic and that this is 2005 - this is

cave technology. this lack of abs is absence. uh, airbags and other things, the same renault. yes, we will again produce moskvich. no, i'm sorry, i won't say no. andrei no, of course, five moskvich will be produced, you are talking about this old one now. that's what they say from the other we don't have, it means that it won't be. well bye then. yes, of course, let's put your relatives in a car where there are no pillows. it’s dangerous, it’s okay, i generally want to drive a four and drive nothing relatively recently, so that we get out of such a situation not knowing that we need to cover ourselves with a sheet to really understand what it tells us to do. can i return the word piece, look, it was there, and most importantly,

the search for compromises should begin. hmm started this search started or not. well , firstly, let's first of all, nothing nationalized by search comes from the point of view. and even those who leave 15 years. they have something to return there for everyone in different ways there for everyone in different ways. yes, you are glad floor-fed no one is undressed, nothing critical has happened, but the problem is a little different level, which no one expected 3 months ago. only large-scale will be the departure of the company from our market. well , it was clear that the big and bright ones and all the rest would leave. but what will go straight are those who were in the chains of the ingredients. that's all i said, well packaging. yes, according to your logic. for example, i do not think that it will be fatal if we get milk in glass bottles. they cost a triangular bag for 16

kopecks. i don't like packaging. but maybe it will be natural, and it will turn sour normally. they become bitter, which now does let's do. well, that's how i understood it. i assure you, of course, yes, that time will pass 10 years 15 10. and i hope that our packaging will appear within a year. we can change it again. that, unfortunately, didn't happen. what i said, the second plastic bag for 3 months of capital investment is, if again, if not nationalized, something of some kind of investment in response, and the priority investments of state investment programs are the closure of these most acute industries. here for now today in the volume that the business is waiting for. we have not received. he just talks. as

you rightly say, while negotiations are underway and the first business itself did not take risks, because he was not sure. yes, he was not gone, i was gone. that's how serious power is. yes, they looked at these well-known brands and thought they would leave. leave, you are finally here or not. and in principle, i think that now is just about the right time. the program is more serious, but you have seen how what ideas, about which decades. we probably said that the government is now starting to implement it. well, we finally decided to deal with the infrastructure. you remember how the united states came out of the great depression by building roads. we finally, after more than 30 years, do not depend, because now putin said it there. this is practically different. of course , this was not the case. after all, in fact, infrastructure projects are pulling the economy. it multiplied that in this situation infrastructure projects should also be

infrastructure projects. i see a movement there . i am also optimistic about the future , infrastructure projects will be useful, but still our economy is not falling, that is, they tried, of course, to present a picture of the fall of analytics, some still simple trps to reduce. well, what could be less, but you understand, when such as world commodity prices are growing, the russian economy cannot fall, infrastructures. well, projects can activate internal processes in this situations. and this is very good and necessary, but of course, they will not do everything themselves, but, you know, unlike the great depression. in what the great depression unfolded its infrastructure projects in the conditions of a price collapse. just the global economy. well, it's not for sale. yes, the soviet union there has halved the proceeds from the sale of its food products on western markets. it's just that the prices have

gone up. our situation is exactly the opposite; we have valuable ones growing. he took six months and doubled the price of energy. well, not doubled. sorry, of course i'm lying about 50% of telling lies. and we , please, tell me, we, uh, still retain some hope that some western brands of the enterprise will not be returned to us. i just saw a piece of alexander rokopov's interview yesterday today. e, the president of the academy of russian television, a very famous producer, he has absolutely no doubt that, well, yes, he says they won’t go anywhere, anyway, of course, that is, in all this, they will just try to return, especially , if he sees that the ruble is strengthening on against the backdrop of weakening western currencies. they will evaluate this situation next year. they are already seeing that free currencies are relative to commodities. that is, to commodity expressions depreciate, and the ruble. say it exactly like that , strengthening the ruble in the context of administrative

regulation of the exchange rate. same. can. excuse me, as i remember in the soviet union when they issued travel allowances in the late seventies for 62 years, yes, 66 kopecks. one dollar was 66 kopecks. and now you can do i don't have to 66 cop. but you can't buy andrei. you cannot dispose of this currency and so on. this administrative regulation of currencies is moscow. open the door, that in any market, a commercial market, and there is always an administrative regulation of such ice, there is no such thing, than this will be your market to regulate such. forgive me, my dear, but sanctions are hitting your market more quietly on your market. well done hard cut reserves do whatever your currency of course the normal management do everything to protect this currency, but no fixed exchange rate, which we are

talking about now, no more than that, now the head of the central bank and the financial authorities of russia is hurting from such a course, because it is not profitable, therefore, too yes, certain things were done to hold back yes but it's sorry it's in any country one way or another, then they said differently further. wait 400 companies have already called out four six correctly. and how many foreign companies? more than 3.000 more than 3.000, of course, 28 is more than 3.000 28.000. i am i mean, no, 2 3, 3 more than 3,000 companies, and 28,000 kommersant is a normal source. well , please don’t take it, and so on and so forth, but why the chinese, because you sing shitty toilets from sytinsky’s voice, now they actually left to return, therefore, such an agreement concludes that, accordingly, as it were, that it was possible to return and at preferential things. we take all kinds of

renault and everything. the rest are colleagues. the thing is, really, they all want to come back. everyone is waiting for the end, respectively, uh tel. but he promised returned much more important than that, so that they did not believe. here, i will now translate one example. i didn’t want to, i didn’t want kherson ones, which means, it means that agricultural producers went to the crimea and i read some kind of crimean producer, he says not to let them in, because before we sold strawberries for 354 rubles. and now we have to sell for 120 good strawberries were much less these 35,400 people. everyone always said at the resorts, because they fucked up the price tags, strawberries.

crimean will no longer be fine. all will be well. and kherson will be crimean or people and people will normally buy at normal prices, because some i don’t watch the scenes are just fucked up, because the monopoly is all competition. no, the same applies, in fact, and our agriculture as a whole needs it. restrain, but there should be competition because there will be 1-2 monopolists. these prices are going to be very steep. we have monopolists with you. and chinese european. we have our own places. no, we have yes? may i say one last thing? now we understand, some say, some say that it became bad, others became. everything is fine. as will, well, it turns out, in fact. no, after all, if you watch the same program what i said is much more interesting than this gas oil, i

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ntv the place where everything becomes clear stopped my anton valerievich when he he said the last important thing in his own words and remembered the sport of three months ago about how people will relate to our people to a special operation when they supposedly can feel it for themselves. here afterwards all kinds of crisis, discomfort and so on. that is, this sport yes first now march 9 june 9, three days before our national holiday is just a holiday. yes, just just look and listen to how they will speak, everything is interesting to me, only this, because in the rest it’s already approximately clear to me where this is all going, write. describe how you see the world, on june 9, 2020 we will nationalize or somehow transfer to crisis

management some enterprises that will leave us like this in 3 months, what will we have with currency in three months. i'm afraid that most of our viewers are aware of those problems. here is that discomfort in their daily life, then we will understand that we are all in the same boat and those who on the twenty-fourth of february were categorically in favor and those who had, let's say, some doubts and questions. we stayed in our country listening. we will be together here in this submarine they will have at least questions, that is, after 3 months no one will be categorically behind it turns out like this. well, i'm listening to you, as if obviously you have such a scenario, in my opinion, the vast majority of our population is well aware that it will be difficult for everyone, but it will be difficult for everyone, rich and poor and the middle class. all of which discomfort will really get. but what distinguishes us people from other

nations is that we have a sense of justice, while others have a hierarchy, where the refrigerator is always a little lower, when there are high ideals maxim anatolyevich , then i quote yours, we will understand, that we are in one boat. our task is to survive, you are already surviving or somehow your condition is still better. listen, i'm generally a fatalist, in fact, let's, let's answer directly. well, you said everyone would feel uncomfortable. are you so uncomfortable that you are already surviving or so far nothing every day right now, but you understand how? well, i communicate with people, but so frankly they personally you, maxim anatolyevich yuryevna, are someone you. well, let's international observers of a commercial publishing house. yes, because you don't answer then you don't answer. whether you are already alive or not. you said, i live, i have already

started the countdown process since the twenty-fourth of february. before life, you understand, retired, or what? no, well, just live already. how disgusting, to be honest, well, nevertheless, you see, i'm smiling with you talking. and like you, in general, it seems to me that you don’t want to live straight, yes, and when i see a picture, sometimes you don’t want to live, but that’s not the point of living. well , yes, don’t answer now, uh, about this, about that, about that awareness or not realizing our compatriot. well, do you have any acquaintances now, but are they doing repairs or completing the dacha? i sasha found the cost, compared to what it was in the past. i told you nothing, everything is fine, but maxim anatolyevich, i’ll tell you this, but there was a jump , just like that. well, it was probably in february, towards the end of march. so i even

panicked a little somehow, but, uh, the man who does all this to us. here in the crimea yes, he's just fucked up to us, as you listen, he says, you don't need to buy anything now. calm down now prices come back back in february. but i probably know better, but i know better. are you building a house or am i constantly not coming back, yo-my. the audience is in this situation, then i ’ll advise you to have a rather frank conversation with one of the officials of the moscow sag, how they see life, but not on the air, of course. and what are you, in fact, this is our city, which, well, almost a year ago, half a year ago, was ideal, everyone came and envied all these programs. everything that is running will remain. this is the moscow city hall. raised questions there representatives of the communist party faction who tried to distribute red nipples to children, but they refused brothers, and he was very seriously upset. this is

beauty, all these metro trains or electric buses, which at least everything, because it is at some point. eh, something has to break, it will have to be changed. maybe parts. no, maybe gradually. you just created this program for us today. you said 3 months. here 3 months have passed you now just what are you doing? for some more time ahead, or as they say now to the right in six months, if we asked pravda specifically, i can’t, then they somehow answered that you don’t want to live at all. i do not think that this is again, and yet i see, positive you say, look at the city. that , for example, krasnaya presnya street yes, they didn’t have time, but in the winter before winter, these wonderful trees are planted, i don’t know, in general, eight are planted, not all the trees have been planted. well , yes, it is clear there will be no more of these trees,

because the trees were from europe. they are there a million euros there i don’t know what to plant, yes, and at the richest bushes where there weren’t enough trees for anything. well, this is a problem that we need to solve here, and thank god, let these bushes be a serious reminder for them. for example, i don’t suffer from the fact that lilacs were planted there every other time instead of a village, because there weren’t enough trees, maybe our wonderful moscow shouldn’t have bought these trees there for such crazy money. i hope these officials. yes, you raise omnics, finally i hope that bureaucracy i know that officials, the truth is not good from what is happening 6.000. i have a suspicion that the moscow officials, about whom

maxim speaks, are the same moscow officials who just bought trees and not only these things, and these repairs at the same place, here. so, here, most likely, the same officials with whom it is necessary to talk not to us, but to the prosecutor's office and law enforcement agencies. of course, they became very ill. this is true. i hope and listen, this is not an argument at all, there really are people who feel bad, yes, and i told you from the very beginning. really. well , it's going to be a tough time. we will go through it all together, how else, that someone said that after the start of the operation, everyone will be fine. no, everyone understands this very well, people are all adults and smart and simple officials who have nothing to do with cutting and hard workers. other. yes, we have huge problems for sure. if you take substitution people ask what one question. but it was impossible to do without this, without which these people bought everything. the experiments were also to bypass and

divert the conversation, don’t understand where why this time people ask this way and this question after what has already happened maxim got everything in one free block to protect, by the way, because you are now being cunning, you know, that’s what i have personal problem. eh, there was discomfort, what kind of discomfort during this time? so my subscription to this very microsoft has ended, yes, and since they refuse. now the brothers pay in rubles from my card. so i can't work in this city, then there are import substitution. so far, uh, as if on the advice of friends, i bought this moskvich car on the advice of friends, like all our editorial offices are now in these google documents, but yandex has also prepared documents. there he is, i have a little here. here is your cross. yes, i haven't felt anything yet. no

, of course, there is some problem there with trips to the south. yeah, big problems, but if you really want to, i'll tell you, i have a concert on july 2 in novorossiysk, how i get there, then i'm flying to sochi yeah, i have 45 minutes in sochi in order to run from the airport, adler to the railway station. i sit in a swallow for 4 hours, in my opinion, i go to swallows to tuapse in tuapse, a car beats me and i drive to novorossiysk for 3 hours, well, it’s hard, nothing is uncomfortable, but people will buy tickets for the concert. i came to them from this. no. well, a little ass. if you want, i can write about it in my telegram channel. what anton khanchenko is not talking about, what to write about? what about the barter concert, or what? are you already exchanging more? write that on the sixth of july in moscow in you are magnus locus and then all friends

read concerts at andrei vladimir's trouble. come on, let me translate a little. yes, that's an interesting situation, but just in confirmation of what we said about the markets for the first time in recent years at 123.000. well the figures given by the ministry of economy increased the number of small businesses working. you know, for me you know what period of time is the first, because, uh, i said that there was an opportunity all these did not take ours in any way . how did we become even in moscow now? regions. hooray! long live it worked. i don’t want to throw a hat there, i don’t want to say that everything is great in general. everything is great, but there are a lot of directions. on which there is really an opportunity for our russian

business to go somewhere and that is why people have appeared on their way, i can tell you that now those who have equipment, processing machines and so on in three shifts in three shifts, because for the first time they were allowed to make spare parts for kamaz. rosneft dew started them, everyone else started there look for who will make these spare parts and it turned out that we have such people. i don't know yet. can we close our business? all that happened? but the fact that now they have finally given the opportunity to work to their own is what it says for all the main consumers. it has not narrowed, but rather expanded. i correctly perceive everything that concerns my domestic small-medium business. i want to say that it's all good, smes, but there are things that we can't do anything about, aviation is everything

these tales about ms-21 quietly migrated. now, already in the twenty-third, twenty-fourth year, and so on, vladimirovich airport, sit at home for a little while now to fly. before. we have planes. now we will have an airplane later, and then it will appear in 10 years. why because, because technology is such a structure, well, you know, of course, in 10 years we will all be in good health and remember this dispute. i say again that you just need to understand that the country will be bad. and this is what you need to understand, so it's bad. so i couldn't and that's bad. it's that bad is the economic risk. i'm still torn to say that during these months i also showed. it showed that the predictions which, apparently, there were also expectations that were on the fate of the russian

economy. no matter how they are repeated in the west now, they have not been realized, and this is a terrible embarrassment for the giants of thought there, because every year the nobel prize in economics was given to some american professor, sometimes even two, and a lot of these american professors have accumulated over 30 years, about which we they said in the economic news that it was simple. well, such a pinnacle of thought is people who see the future and understand processes. these are great thinkers and economists, the smartest people. why , it seemed like time, they didn’t say anything to their superiors across, if they were against it, yes, don’t meddle in russia with sanctions with your own, you will make yourself worse. they said, they did n't say it, if they participated in the compilation of this sanctions economic attack, then they did. this is extremely incompetent, showing that in the world economy they don’t understand anything at all about how the process develops, there is a process developing, naturally in russia, and everything works for us. this is another important discrediting point that time has shown. and

of course, they are silent even now, and this is also very much in my opinion. all let's stop. now the final question. let's do it in a couple of minutes. a woman got 6 years for stabbing her partner with a knife. elena prepared your fight in the kitchen, so she stepped out in front of me mother confidently. her daughter is all just defended. he is above her. the victim himself does not hide. he provoked his beloved and ran into a knife, he just walked and pressed you were deceived by the investigation. no, elena should now be at large for dorozhnaya but why does his brother think

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the dispute is the geographical objectives of the special operation. it seems to me that by that time, in 5 minutes, they will already be clearly defined for everyone and there will be no such disputes for me. i just imagine the dynamics. it is obvious that the dalvians are not dissatisfied when it doesn’t reach and doesn’t reach kiev, moreover, in 5 months even such goals will not be set, but kazakov didn’t tell anton to lie down about this, on november 9 it will obviously be cold , cheese. fu, different, probably, for everyone, but since we are a russian person, russian russian people are strong nations. they make everything warmer. and if it’s completely unbearable on the street, tom is ready to gather at the big round table, right, especially since the day of the police andrey vladimirovich i think that on this day we will see on the screens of our monitors, there is 256 or some other day special military operation, by the way, no one is doing something like that . with us, this is your ukrainian friends, apparently, every day businessmen

publish on the first page. what day is the special operation today? and then, when they see this figure, people will say, well, well hit, and ibrahimovic swan lake will definitely not have tvs. as for the special operation, the goals will indeed be clear. everyone will no longer have to chew on the programs, and it seems to me that we will feel the first result of the government’s activities, one crisis, but, uh, how would we feel all this, so elena nikolaevna if we turn on the mobilization scenario, then i expect that we will. we will make financial programs our own opportunity to work. let's define priorities, then i expect that starting from this period, everything more of our company will close these niches, which are organized on november 9 wednesday, which means the meeting place must be walking. andrey vladimirovich will tell us about another

one. yes, maxim anatolyevich will say that by 2023 everyone will definitely feel for themselves how they survive, and then they will shout back to him that everything will not be true there, it may be difficult, but we will put it up, well, or nikolaevna tells how we made a new package, finally for milk. and i'll tell a joke end of the program. still. let's make a discount on forecasts. this is all very inaccurate. semyon moiseevich comes to a fortune teller. says there will give. you know how to predict. she says yes on the cards. so what can you tell me about the future? so she lays out the cards, she says, well, i see a sumptuous sun-drenched villa, a marble pool with an open-topped ferrari car sitting in it, and a very beautiful young woman sitting naked, and i'm there . yes, you stand behind the fence and peep into hole. it was a meeting place that can not be changed 14:00 weekdays ntv goodbye.