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and everything becomes clear. i'm andrey norkin. my colleague is ivan trushkin. we are working on the air is very multifaceted. today is a polysemantic name for our program. we chose a weak rear. e, version one e, ukrainians, as you know, constantly declare that for 8 years now, they have been protecting europe from putin's e-barbarians, but from the point of view of ukrainians, these same europeans are not behaving very reliably. that is, they are, as it were, you are weak ukraine, but on the front line, and europe in the rear, but it does not behave very reliably. here today a whole bunch of such not very powerful representatives of this europe came to negotiate with zelensky macron, scholtsy, dear almost in a sealed wagon. and then there is a cockerel for friends. ukrainian ran. uh, this very romanian president is her hames according to the ukrainians, or rather, not so according to the official european version. they are going there to provide support to discuss
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issues of granting, and the status of candidates , members, if ukraine a, moreover, this was kept secret until the very end. basically everyone knew. i think we are in monday they said that they wrote about it. we also talked about it at the beginning of the week, well, they did not officially confirm anything, but according to the ukrainian version, all these european commissars are going to force zelensky to negotiate, at least or to capitulate, at most. let's take a look, here are the first shots of the first statements that were made and try to figure it out. on thursday. in the morning, the third vein of european scales, politicians, french president macron, german chancellor. schultz of the italian premier, their joint photo in the carriage has already spread all over the world's leading publications. together with them, the romanian president johannes arrived in ukraine, but for some reason there was no place for him in the carriage. the visit itself was surrounded by a halo of mystery, the trip was not officially reported , only the western press wrote the tone right on the
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platform , macron set the tone with my colleagues scheduled negotiations. i would like to send a message of support and european unity to the ukrainians, as soon as foreign guests arrived in kiev in the city, as if by order, they immediately announced an air raid warning by noon, western leaders managed to drive him away, irpin in the vicinity, which, on the eve of their visit, was apparently not accidentally discovered the french foreign ministry announced a new fraternal magic that macron schultz dredges will discuss military assistance to zelensky and the prospects for ukraine's entry into the european union, but experts are sure that the agenda will be much broader and will include the topic of corridors for the export of grain from the demining of ports. but most importantly, the trinity will probably try to convince zelensky that it is time to make concessions to russia, in particular, on the eve of the visit
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, macron hinted that at some point we will have to negotiate with president zelensky of ukraine. negotiate with russia and we europeans will be at this negotiating table, the german press is sure that the europeans did not arrive in kiev empty-handed and will offer zelensky a deal with the status of an eu candidate for ukraine in exchange for the cessation of hostilities is a very prestigious visit. there has never been such a high-profile visit from europe, he has always been at the level of foreign ministers. there is a chance that they will try to tell zelensky we grant you the status of a candidate for the european union and you make concessions, but ukraine is not very diplomatic. zelensky has made it very clear they need help to reclaim their borders in kiev from western visitors. it seems that they do not expect anything good and are wary of the visit, believing that the european trinity will persuading zelensky to surrender, if we talk about the
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arrival of the macron, shults and dredges, we should expect a russian trojan. no, since all three politicians take quite a pro-putin position and are trying to simply sell ukraine a peace plan, their plan may turn out to be extremely negative for ukraine and our state may be left without part of the territory. zelensky himself foresees it on wednesday in an online address to the czech parliament. he said that the czech people hate to give up, they know perfectly well what compromises are completed at someone else's expense and what are the concessions to tyranny, which offers to take only supposedly part of the desired territory, in order to pretend that the aggression has stopped, whoever wants to seize everything will never stop, taking only a part. i urge you to continue with us, without stopping for a moment to convince everyone who has not yet
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decided to clearly choose in the direction of the confrontation, which has been going on for 112 days, of this simple truth. ukraine should get everything for the victory and it seems to me that it is necessary take into account here one point, which may not be relevant at first glance. eh, it's very difficult to find something more hypocritical, but more hypocritical is some such formation as, uh, the european union is a single european family, where everyone is equal and where everyone protects each other and helps, if you remember earlier in the negotiations. there, the head of the european union , mr. michel, sat on a chair, and the head of the european commission, anderlets. there was no chair. well , nothing is sitting there, yes, and now the head of france and italy germany are going there together, who else with the president of romania wants us. well, in this dog box in this train, put nothing jokes. absolutely not to yourself. no, no, decent europeans refused to travel from the gypsies. in one version, they absolutely
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came together, so, by train, and therefore the antanescu had to flee, so, why did george come to lie down? look, if seriously, they really came, to understand how ukraine is ready to give in, because both the macron and the dredge and the scholz. these are the politicians who, in principle, realized that it is necessary to negotiate with moscow and something putin needs to give in. only here there is a climate for three considerations. to do this, you need the most representative delegation, so that not a single one goes, like separate negotiations, but all three respected, like, leaders of the european union a go and but there are three big obstacles here first, and zelensky is not ready to give in, because then he will be given in to someone somewhere. secondly, uh, they are not ready to concede, since the united states needs biden to resist ukraine until november, otherwise they will generally put him on the view that because of him putin received the territory for his mistakes and the third point. we are not ready to
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accept this. we don't need another minsk, we don't need it. here is the price that macron brought, he said there at the end. it's not up to the transferred we will sit on the table as guarantors. he said yes, we europeans will be present. this is not why we are resolving the issue in such a way that we will finally and completely resolve them, if we dwell on how they can persuade zelensky. they can promise him something or, on the contrary, fence him with something, like this can look like? because the same, for example, ne times writes that zelensky needs to give not only gingerbread, but also a whip of notes. explain to him, for example, the following wording, that you know european money. european weapons are not unlimited. therefore, if you do not make concessions and are not ready to stop the war, probably at some point our flow of aid stops to the baydan, but this is the same thing biden said was the advice was, so to speak. understand the biden is the biden on the american administration is in the shops,
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therefore, time is still sleeping, 147 minutes of moscow did not wake up. wait. let's go get some sleep. we have quite colorful characters. those who came, unfortunately, you generally agree that they are already coming to learn something like that, but also a little. there is no way to put pressure, because they are well aware, including the position of washington and the position of london, and that military operations in ukraine will continue. and here it was rightly said that the russian side is not particularly interested in , to you know, save up, uh, here the word surrender was used in the plot, no europeans, no americans, no other country, except for russia, does not require ukraine not to deliberately demand surrender from ukraine. you understand that they can not now, but at some other stage they can offer a ceasefire. well, what does the termination mean for russia? fire means potential repetition. indeed, as already
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mentioned in the situation in 2014-2015-16, when the shelling of the territories that are in the same dpr lpr or the territory, kherson and others there will be constantly under fire, and now, maybe they really need a breather to see your views. just the other day, he said that the ukrainian army loses up to a thousand people a day killed and wounded. these are huge losses, huge losses, when he says that there are re-memobilization reserves of 1-2 million. it is not so easy to do everything quickly, so they need it badly. need a break. they can really try, agree - try to offer here some kind of temporary agreements, that’s what’s beneficial for them. it’s beneficial for them to take a breather, so that in a month or two they will again start getting more weapons that they are counting on, and these are americans and europeans to rearm new units that they will form from mobilized , how do you train them a little to learn how to use the same javelins and
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other types of weapons and again into battle for russia, this is beneficial for russia, this is necessary of course not, everyone in moscow understands perfectly. what is the interest in this option from the side of the west from the side of kiev, therefore, it will not be scattered, but capitulation. unfortunately, neither brussels nor the european called for you to us all the intrigue poher. sorry victor lives something up to discuss. it's me, in fact, i also think so, that we, of course, e will not agree to any, such as a proposal, but it's interesting, just wait interesting. that's all that's happening. why then a-a in the ukrainian position. eh, it's so obvious. here is the tension. well, maybe tension, maybe irritation. here they go to us in order to persuade us to lay down our arms there. and what are you talking about, just the very presence of these representatives of these three countries, yes, the leaders of the union is already, and very significant, it is very important, because to
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show that despite these conceit. but how does germany support ukraine does not support, france supports the macron said this and that, italy somehow does not support, on the contrary, that he came and shows that ukraine actually sticks to the official official version. it 's just the way it is what he writes. i read in the press ukrainians. the fourth grant wanted to go. well , the polish prime minister, who considers himself a grandee, pushed him away from this story. why, again, as experts think, because in the presence of the poles, it is even impossible to discuss any kind of truce with zelensky, capitulation for the territory, the poles will hit the table with their fists and say no, it doesn’t require, in principle, it’s impossible at the moment to discuss some kind of lacy, because imagine what it would look like. yes, the european union offers ukraine to surrender easily. this is the end of the eu we won't leave you. we will help you, we will give you this swedish bicycle there. yes, it will
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look simple. it the fact is that it is played again, yes. if offered, there invincibility must have offered the possibility to the member that turkey is already on the way. this is very much over 50 years old. ukraine well, in principle, yes, but you don't understand anything. uh-huh so, in my opinion, in order to understand peace, georgy please stop, wait here for many other no less wonderful experts a year hmm to understand the peacefulness of these dominions peacefulness in quotation marks. you need to remember, why did they get involved, together with the united states, in an all-out hybrid war of annihilation against russia lavrov's definition are they from the fact that their arms were twisted? no , simply, they hoped that such a power as a united west would break russia and then we will share, uh, booty together, but now they understand that a special military operation will not fail to break russia fails. and this
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means that they do not shine prey now. this time, but another shines for them, an aggravation of the situation shines for them, which can spread to the european union. you said that they did not take the pole, but because the poles. this is one of the tools in washington to aggravate so that the union with ukraine, the polish army also enters the war, and then it started and how the european union will survive outside the war unknown, that is, prey does not shine. but a blow can be received from here an attempt to negotiate. hmm, zelensky understands that it is impossible to reach an agreement in washington. for washington, this aggravation is beneficial, which is unprofitable for him to go now to peace negotiations. why are the three of them going exactly not ministers. they didn't send one. they need to convince zelensky's leadership now. e ukraine is
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that switch to the european union do not listen to washington, switch to us, that's why you came here. we give you guarantees for all eu grants that we will include you, next time they have such powers without the americans. they promise all this and make opportunities, they also have a lot . in no case can you imagine that they are pure puppets, especially when it comes to goes, but their own selfish interests, and here we are talking about school interests. and here. uh, what they have, maybe one more calculation here it was said that russia would not accept. excuse me , they are well aware that in russia there is also the so -called peace party, from my point of view, the party of betrayal, which is now immediately fixed, in the second part, perhaps, the understanding of these selfish interests is connected with the realization that, first of all, by european countries, that anti-russian
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sanctions. they hit more and more on the euro. the economic pressure is mounting and somehow it would be time to do something about it. let's talk about this topic a few weeks ago, the european union creakingly adopted the sixth package of anti-russian sanctions, and now in europe they don’t even know what else it would be possible to impose a restriction on, and at the same time, not to harm the invorga on gaz is no longer even discussed. i think that the sixth package was a big step forward. i think we should pause now to put this package in place and look at its implications. decision on the embargo it will be even more difficult to agree on russian gas after agreeing on the sixth package of eu sanctions against russia, it is necessary to start discussing the seventh package, however, including a ban on russian gas supplies. it is hardly possible that the us admits that it did not expect trouble from the sanctions for itself the realization came thanks to the agricultural theme the us is in dire need of
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russian fertilizers. at the end of march, they were even taught to the american list of essential goods so that sanctions would not apply to them. bloomberg found that washington is in favor of increasing purchases. while ukrainian president volodymyr zelensky in congress called on american companies to leave the russian market, because it is drenched in our blood , the biden administration encouraged some trade, including for agriculture, medicine and telecommunications, for example, the us government secretly encourages agricultural and shipping companies to buy and transport more russian fertilizer because of fears of sanctions. led to a sharp reduction in supplies and an increase in prices for food. at the same time, those responsible for american finances admit that the prices of gasoline in the united states are climbing, including due to anti-russian sanctions. but this is not a reason to slow down yet
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. that our sanctions were surprisingly effective, but we continue to tighten them and oil prices can rise further epiphany theory, it means that they introduced the sanctions, saw that they were hitting themselves and decided that we had to go. she is, of course, beautiful, and she is oil on the heart, of course, but it seems to me that this is the brink of adequacy has not yet come, everything that everything says, that's what janet yelen said - this is actually an attempt to justify that economic policy, which has been shown in the usa for a very long time in the west, which led to the fact that, in general , an economic collapse begins there, collapse, public debt, a very large, very large share of services in gdp, and so on, but it is very convenient to attribute it to sanctions, because that putin is the aggressor we have imposed sanctions. let's be patient, but i completely agree with everyone who spoke here. in fact , now the second aspect is very important. this is what europe has such a caricature the united states announces sanctions, they bring uh, a light to the wick of a cannon and shoot, but in front of the cannon there is some kind of fat man and all the shells. through it destroy the united states
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solves its economic political tasks. they are destroying the european union as a competitor at the expense of it, they are weakening russia and, at the same time, all capital. they are going away. here in this illusion in the usa there quiet, there is no war there. uh, nothing but these, in fact, the economy has huge data in this bogdanovich, the europeans are also raising this, therefore, they talk about selfish interests. here they are americans in their own skin, well, they are losing money there, they may be indignant at drawing caricatures at biden gas stations. it's me here, but hmm , the europeans somehow really need to do something right already in order for their skin to remain true. well, what can sergeevich do , says that they are not such puppets as me imagine they are not so puppets they have some part of the subjects of germany in france that they can go to kiev today in kazakhstan they can yes they can go to kiev completely stand, but at the same time the german chancellor cannot deprive grim of the ukrainian message that i
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need yes why have we already discussed this here, if some node has said something about protein. just a demonstration of what is in what is not. what is the point of coming to ukraine and trying to somehow stop this economic collapse, you know, there is no gas restriction on nord stream, and so on. and uh, naturally. the goal is to do something, some new minsk-3 khasavyurt, stop anything the europeans and initially supported the maidan in order to peacefully incorporate ukraine into themselves as a source of cheap resources and cheap labor against russia yes, yes, that's it intercepted the combined ones, as if the targets dangerously turned the military channel there. who went to kyiv just today. yes, representatives of such a person who will go to truskavets once upon a time yes, well, in general, in soviet times, the leaders of the three most tired of this conflict of old europe, by the way, old europe, the states of romania,
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poland were not taken absolutely absolutely absolutely by the owners of the european union three states in which, as bogdan said, there really is still a grain, which means subjectivity, which understand that everything that happens. everything that happens hits them with terrible force, unlike the americans, they understand this and went there to do at least something, at least, as they said. gevorg probes the soil understand how neglected everything is. if at least some probability of what the conflict means. uh, you can pause or stop, well, do at least something so that it doesn't hurt so much, but they themselves don't understand. sorry dangerous. yes , sponsoring ukraine about sending weapons there is so wonderful, you understand how differently they contradict each other, see all the actions of europe frenzied
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militaristic rhetoric, yes faces that were ugly faces that were country there bars or so on. today, their voices sound a little less sonorous. why because the understanding has come that this militarism is rabid no, it still is. i say they they are no longer so bright. in general , it's not all in the headlines. i don’t think i’m the right one, i’m like a journalist, i’m daring to keep track of the degree of brightness, because this frenzied militaristic rhetoric does not lead to e, the desired results does not stop everything in favor of ukraine but somehow draws in and russia receives more and more bonuses, which means that those pragmatists who have been talking for quite a long time come to the fore. uh, well, all sorts of alternatives. yes, we will not humiliate things, like a macron, yes, with one hand we will help to support condemning there, but with the other hand. let's not humiliate russia sooner or later . that is, they constantly put straws under this alternative option, and the ukrainians will not deal with it either, in order to throw them there, they understand that the europeans understand this and
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the ukrainians do. e. well, here is the old world i have in mind and that's why the ukrainians got so excited that's why some expert politicians are so excited. they are very specific. therefore, they are constantly somehow here, uh, an injection, yes , they are carried out to the side, then germany or france, or a true sausage, so as not to relax. they are like parasites. yes, they are parasites, when we say that ukraine is not sovereign, there and so on. we mean precisely their parasitic image, yes, life, because they are outside the organism on which they parasitize, in principle, nothing can do, but a parasite is not a stupid parasite. you if here you study how some worms work there. yes, and they are very creative inventors. there, they cling to the body with hooks, and he is not interested in the fact that this is his natural partner, so he seriously died. here he is, yes, and he started a strand of worms, he is interested in,
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uh, yes, the partner, to consume as much as possible, so that something is delivered, uh, also to the parasite, but in no case did he pay attention, but if the plot, yes, if everyone here is a worm year, just takes it nerf understand, because his body is weakening. well, not that before our eyes, but europe is weakening, of course, hard. now a second second. they bought. let's have controversial interests about russian benefits. it’s just that the europeans began to consider, specifically, energy sanctions, and in general, it turns out that for now, yes, russia is in the black, that is, russia seems to be selling less, but because of this idiotic situation with prices, russia gets more money, europeans get less , and the population pays more there or that is began to ask questions. what is happening in general, that is, this organism that the ukrainian parasite feeds on. he is also weakening. please give us this material this week, gazprom announced a reduction in gas supplies under the nord stream pipeline, the reason was the refusal of the
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german concern siemens to return from repair in a timely manner, out of the eight gas pumping units required for collection, only three units were left in operation, the remaining gas through the pipe fell by 22% then the company turned off another unit and volumes gas pumping decreased to 67 million cubic meters per day, against the planned 167 million. in germany, of course, they saw this as a policy of germany transfer olaf-scholz listens to the assessment of the head of the ministry of economy robert haddack that the reasons for the reduction in supplies via nord stream may be political, i have an impression. that what happened yesterday is a political and not a technically motivated decision, until we can say exactly what impact it will have on the european and german gas market after gazprom's forced decision on gas prices in europe jumped by more than 20 percent. experts considered that russia not only did not
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lose, but even won its father, according to the center for energy research, clean air, since the start of the special operation in ukraine, russia has increased revenues from carrier energy exports to europe to 57 billion euros. germany's main consumers italy france and even poland, where russophobia is on the rise, may imports are down slightly by about 15% from pre-invasion times as many countries and firms shun deliveries from russia, reduced demand and lower prices for russian oil cost around 200 million euros a day in may. however, the increase in demand for fossil resources brought a windfall, the average export price of russian oil was an average of 60% higher than last year, revenue growth. russia is the export of oil, very unnerving, the united states, which has campaigned the most for sanctions against our energy sector. now washington is
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trying to persuade the allies to introduce a maximum purchase price for oil from russia. we know that today russia sells less oil in terms of barrels than for the invasion of ukraine but because of rising prices. it can make more profit, so our goal is to reduce the level of russia's income from oil, even though countries can continue to buy russian oil. so alexey gennadievich, as they say, they rested something there, had fun, thought they shed a tear. you know, i would have connected both the first and second plots, not only from the point of view of e-gas, but from the point of view of such an e- western split, but in my opinion from my point of view vision. here are three european leaders who, so to speak , perfectly understand that the crisis, including the energy crisis in europe, of course, is responsible for the current situation, including the united states and their trip. in general, it seems to me, it is connected with sounding the soil and
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in general to see how zelensky is . what do the americans offer him, how do they put on, that he will tell everything directly? yes listen, they are also not idiots, of course, understanding. you know, that's why the purpose of the trip is to understand how much you see between zhmerinka and we said that there is no hypocritical unity there. yes, there is unity. here it is shown to us here it is shown to us by this hypocritical and the romanian president. and it's funny, really, because remember, the same concept was a europe of two speeds. but yes. this is this is this direct demonstration to us, one car goes faster, and white people go there, but there is a second car, so you can’t take it, so to speak, that slower and so on. eh, i think it does. uh, the europeans want to hear from zelensky how he is going to win, how he is going to be military anyway, but in order to
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find out what zelensky thinks, there is no need to go there in the grass, three of us personally go there to him. well , sorry, they yes, they want him something not from him. they want to know something, they give him another uh addressee of this political information message - this is actually the electorate. uh, they just got re-elected. and in the sense of a scholz came dredge. also quite recently, of course, they need to demonstrate to their electorate that they are for peace, for humanism, and so on, this is fire research. therefore, this must be done before the elections. after the elections it is not necessary, of course, it is necessary no, it is not necessary, siemens, an important thing. after all, this story is also connected with the united states, because the turbines that are not supplied know where they hung somewhere in canada, they are called canada recently imposed sanctions, due to which they fall under double import. although, in fact, there
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difficulties hit or miss. and that should be stressful too. uh, science on the united states made the europeans. i suggest doing on this one could not help but think about in terms of really and drive in. wedge you are a very high evasion of europeans, that is, they know very well there, they take it into account there. where how does it work. uh, pipeline. what kind of turbine mechanism is there, what does virgo repair. look , they still think that the electricity just comes from the outlet, that is, in my life, nobody. there vital it seems to me that there is no monolithic now european society and the european union is actually bursting, no matter how it is now met? again , why are they leaving now? well, it certainly isn't cruel. well, it's tough to come to zelensky and talk face to face. many. excuse me, they interrupt. many. they say that we went now, because we are there in a week with an interval of several days, there is a whole bunch of summits and the eu summit, in my opinion, themselves 15 and the big seven summit, because,
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of course, they are still very an important point about anthelmintic anthelmintics will just be the european society itself from the old color. look. how it fell very sharply the approval rating in german society fell sharply, and the german sociological companies themselves carried it out regarding the supply of german weapons to ukraine, it fell very much. and as it was in march, it fell by 60 to 20 percent, this approval rating is a serious indicator. let me please say he appeared, but he was re-elected with such a creak more than that, we understand perfectly well that the position of the macron, which was before his last election. it no longer exists macrons. now an extremely controversial french politician who goes on about all globalist ideas. let's not be feeding, micronism. i agree not even with a macron to protect the paradigm. as for zelensky, let's return to not our sheep, but nevertheless to the sheep, with which, again, something needs to be done. notice how the rhetoric of arrestovich and zelensky has changed in relation to germany , as it were, they began to call it in a completely new way,
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because i was recently remarked by a man. this is my arrest warrant. how they brought it, i don’t know what it is connected with, apparently, sharp over the mountain. what about a man who deserves respect? why do we also need to say arrestovich like that, right? let's have a story. i, as a native speaker, protest, although it has always been said. and what has changed with him, what is in his rhetoric? look at what he declares in his streams that germany is behaving absolutely boorishly, and now she will not help ukraine ukraine once hypothetically in defeat the future, and to unite with the russians was going to europe, this is a direct blackmail of a gopnik. that is, earlier zelensky, not an arrest officer , did not allow himself such words, in parallel with this, the very same nato stoltenberg, again, discovers new blue fields for himself, saying that well, from afar, very much saying that if a certain union of ukraine, poland, and the baltics appears plus great britain, this union would be nice to support this hairpin and stone, in general, a garden. sorry to the garden, just the french, because from the point of view of the director
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nato - this is a strange phrase to support an organization. yes? well, why? perhaps because it will be a springboard for a new one on t2 somewhere, when they are very short literally, firstly, nothing new arrest. zelensky did not say, because they only repeated, they repeated only sent mr. melnik to ukraine in poland who did not say that. secondly, regarding the sovereignty of europe, understand to make a decision - some meager sovereignty. perhaps there is for making fateful decisions on ukraine, including not the macron is not salted, and even more so, the dredge and such a spectator are close and zelensky understands this . here it is all slightly for anthelmintic. excuse me, there will be no gas, they will not be, and the new rulers of germany, france, italy, may have sovereignty. all of these, all these three are dependent people. each in its own way. let's stop. now. let's move on to the second version. eh, here's the semantic phrase, and here the
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minorities. or as they are now called lgbt q +, i never understood something like that. why is it called the month of pride or is there a pride parade? well, that's what they call themselves. this is very important for the modern west ukrainians. i mean the ukrainian elite. they see it the opinion is shared that this is important, so now ukraine is very actively entering into this month of pride and activity. it is, as it were, on the rise, it seems like the country is in a state of war, but there are problems. well, or the same. by the way, now in the story we will remind you about it. the day before, in kiev, local lgbt activists, among whom was a stately young man of military age, proudly announced in good english that on saturday , june 18, a gay parade would be held in kiev. come out to the joint maritime pride and riga pride in this
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year. we come together to support ukraine and support the ukrainian lgbt community, which is fighting for its freedom and human rights, last week in kiev opened an exhibition of photographs called lgbt plus in the ukrainian army. everything following the example of the united states, they say that lesbians also make a contribution to the victory, however, the organizers of the exhibition do not hide the fact that they do not know for sure. what is the number of lgbt representatives in the armed forces of ukraine since 2014. we often heard that the dpt people in the war are invisible or they are not at the front at all now during a full-scale invasion, it is especially important to state that we are here and also contribute to the victory so that it is better seen that they are the ones who contribute to the victory fighting faggots attach unicorn chevrons to their uniforms in the american press warns that if ukraine loses the lives of these people will become unbearable. volunteers from the lgbt community are deeply concerned about the
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treatment they may face if russia wins over ukraine, whatever nor were there toads for discrimination that sounded from representatives of ukrainian sexual minorities before the start of the military conflict, in their opinion, life will become much harder under russian rule that ukraine should advance its agenda and constantly remind the united states of military operations, not such a good reason in order to shirk the lofty mission of spreading western values, so at the end of april, just when the whole world was worried about how to evacuate civilians , the sos began to face the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine was another problem. whether to sign a letter in support of sexual minorities in poland to support polish gays was demanded by the american allies, but it's good in kiev. we remembered that last year the signing of such a letter turned into a scandal, more announced, including ukraine,
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that we received a letter from the embassy of the united states of america in the republic of poland with a call to join the signing of an open letter in support of the rights of the lgbt community in poland , it should be noted that signing such a letter may cause public discussion and criticism from polish officials due to the sensitivity of the topic. as a result, the ukrainians decided that american loans are more important and under the letter of the americans with words of gratitude to the polish. gays, nevertheless, the signature of the ukrainian representatives of the lgbt community, as an integral part of the polish society, appeared, leading the class to support those fleeing the war in ukraine a. so, immediately to those who will now try to, uh, accuse us of making all this up about unicorns, here are the ones on the chevrolets. e, yes. it's me. it's just that now we have people who don't believe us. so this is a publication from the american forbes
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sorry old lady. an article called ukrainian lgbtq solgers fight agains duckness of russian invasion, that is, they are now fighting the darkness of this russian invasion, means uh-huh well, let's say the europeans at some point decided that some parts, and the inhabitants of europe, as chichvarkin says, should be male be proud that they use their anus not for appointment, but also optional. come on, for god's sake please your business. explain to me, please, why it is necessary to invest some additional meaning in this and shove all this history into this. uh, the war of resistance to the russian horde is how it all fits together with a friend. well, i'll start by saying that, of course, i'm more confident hydrosexual. yes , it's not because, nevertheless, no, nevertheless, i support it, because it's natural. ah. you are now when you ran away in a commercial break to charge your
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phone, you are on who shouted to me? where without europeans to russia, so i say what the value is. explain this to me and how it is combined with military operations. and this is combined, of course, only indirectly, but nonetheless. you just can't forget other people during the war. the fact is that their rights, of course, are violated in a peaceful war. e life, therefore, naturally. that's right. why don’t you forget about them what you say was many, many years ago. no, this time in europe there is no one anywhere for this, they are not persecuted, they are not put in jail. like an oscar about ukraine, we don’t talk about ukraine, you are persecuting. and well, here, he also gets beat up by football fans. we now know that, for example, football fans of dynamo kiev are satisfied with e quite often. and then why is logic, if you are beaten for it, why do you need a sticker for yourself, and i am like that, i will show, i still languish, but i still resist this hatred, so i understand it. supports
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are designed simply not for themselves and not for their own, but for some kind of western audience. look we are the same as he is you we have a phone try a man is proud of e during the second world war during the great patriotic war , a lot of collaborationist newspapers and various buildings were published in the territory occupied by the germans, and there were. now such typological articles. many of them were on topics. there is a fight against jewish dominance and something like that, even when they were already there. they these people are all gathered somewhere in the getta. somewhere else, these articles continued to appear and appear and appear not necessarily, because their authors of this particular topic were all the time, as charged and wanted to write about it, but they understood that this topic interesting berlin this topic is interesting german occupier. they continued to circulate this topic, its editions, to the low press. even already in 43-44, you want to say that now it’s just
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adjusting to some interesting ones in kiev , they understand what is interesting to their western allies and sponsor is one of the topics that is interesting to their western allies. it's not even necessarily that everything is uh, here. uh, who are these topics in the press ? or they pedaled somewhere, not even necessarily. government. you know god will like it yesterday . i understand that within the framework of this pride. yeah. he said that he proudly said that there are more representatives of sexual minorities in my administration than in all previous administrations put together figuratively, he is right. why should he, in a figurative way, this story, as we show the pool and shows on the bbc or some other western channel or in
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the western press, this is perceived by a certain part of the essential part. need to say liberal public in the west, positively positively, like this one here is the progressives. and for these prices in ukraine, barbarians from russia are fighting against lenin. that's what this is for? glav victor yes, i'm slowly beginning to understand, so we are barbarians igor sergeevich yes, absolutely right. the thing is that we are barbarians, so, i agree that ukraine is now demonstrating this for one simple reason, you need to show the owner that i am my own bourgeois. really. e in the forties the great patriotic war was the main values ​​of the western world. well, continental europe was nazism demonstrated over igor sergeevich how much hmm is important, uh, is this an attempt by ukrainians to demonstrate their loyalty, that is, how much will the americans evaluate it? yes, this is a very important fact. here is yours. e such an attempt to fight these
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barbarians. she, well, just outweighs all your shortcomings on the scales. and i think it is very important, because the same femitism played a key role. e in the ideology of e nazi germany and therefore, when they published such articles, and they showed that they are true to the most basic thesis in the same way even now with all these perversions, because it's not that someone is there for freedom or something else. this is the most fundamental question for western civilization now. what is the goal of liberal globalism, liberal globalism can build a global world? only if you destroy all the basic values, without destroying the scandal was heard. yes , sorry, i’ll finish now in the same way as building that ideal thousand-year reich without exterminating it. all jews were not allowed, so this is really a
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key issue and from this point of view they will immediately evaluate the big scandal from the gums. they are releasing a new series from toy story. but what is called about this base is not about the rudikov battle. but this astronaut and there is some kind of character , or an assistant, and here, or there is some kind. nevermind. here she is a lesbian in this children's cartoon, she is her girlfriend. she builds a family with her. there they kiss, and the scandal is due to the fact that, in my opinion, about 15 countries in basically middle east asia they are already the only one, so they wrote that we refuse the wedding always we will not show it. and this is exactly what the continuation is about now, because this is really the key issue for them of liberal globalism, because we also wanted to add a little bit, but firewood. what else are they trying to please, uh, the west of ukraine then. here your concept fits the holding, then there are no any. well, how would you describe hosting some big international events and attraction even in wartime. even despite the
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fact that territories are being lost every day, there is constant talk about investments about how profitable it is to give money to ukraine, this is a project. the leaders of ukraine, even in the face of hostilities, do not lose optimism and continue to call ukraine an attractive place for investment . president of ukraine volodymyr zelensky, speaking to western investors last week, described the bright prospects for business cooperation with kiev. i want to invite you to consider long-term horizon cooperation. why it will be profitable for you to cooperate with ukraine not right now, but now and for many more years to come. i suggest you, as they say, play long. what exactly is this opportunity i will name the five main ones. this is europe itra, green energy. localization of production, despite the failures at the front and the rapid loss of territory, ukraine continues to position itself as an organizer of
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major international events. this week , the president's office even announced that kiev is in full preparing for eurovision ukraine is already starting preparations for the eurovision 2023 final. we show the world our openness, hospitality and ability to implement a large-scale project. how else gevorg valeryevich can be useful ukraine , see, and ukraine today, can be useful to the west for many. that's exactly the west, but we don't take western society now, because there are videos with lgbt people, this is such a pure, targeted, informational advertisement for liberals. lgbt to conservatives, others will news to be served. this is fine. pure information work. he is there undermining the values ​​of liberal ukraine is needed by the west for many reasons, and specifically the united states. ukraine is needed by the united states in order to achieve european sovereignty, but we have seen this, as if everyone many say. uh, europe, uh, ukraine needs the united states in
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order to force the european union to rely more on the united states in the military-political sense, because since this one began, our special has begun. europe's father's addiction level has risen by an order of magnitude, the united states needs ukraine, finally, as an example, because there are so many american experts now. they say that china, seeing how we americans react harshly to ukraine , will not even think about something twitching on the plates somewhere, they think so, because comrade xi has already signed a very interesting document that allows you to use the people's army in china for non-military purposes. that is, i think that a special military operation in taiwan is already a special military operation, not a military one. yes yes comrade, uh special military non-military great new feed and so on. that's right, china is a powerful power. but there is one problem. you can have as much power as you like, but if you do not have the determination, then it can be used
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senselessly, but the whale does not have it. at least let's not argue about china now. i think he has one quality, which is called. yes, there may be more than one, there are both oriental wisdom and cunning. we simply may not yet understand how much power he has . bogdan anatolyevich has enough or not enough. well, if he allegedly wanted to back a little, when i just sat there, yes , the problem is, what is why do we need all these lgbt parades? and in general, all this paraphernalia in order to force them to abandon their subjectivity. it is precisely within the framework of this global master, and not within the framework of political or economic subjectivity, but precisely within the framework. that's exactly the ideological value. here, i remember, for example, it remains so i can finish, can i finish? i remember very well. an example, when a european official communicates with the leaders of serbia, he said that one of the conditions for european integration, no market form. not even the recognition of the independence of kosovo, but the holding of gay parades in belgrade is precisely the
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imposition of one's values, when the state is a civilization of the nation. this is us abandoning their values. they are completely already completely subordinate, therefore. not everything is forcing. now i've been digging around the internet. i remember the memory, after all, still remained for children in ukraine for a year, two princesses bought a book, and the beautiful ones. uh, damn love, you know, these people, they don't want freedom. they don't need freedom because who doesn't oppress in russia, i don't know who in russia squeezes out lgbt people. we have it everywhere, it's full, but these people just want to turn society around to fit their values. to do this, she is encouraged from the laws adopted in norway, they passed a law according to which for criticism in social networks you can sit down for 5 years to close lgbt people simply for criticism in the form of comments. the same we recalled, how dargies there to the police what woman or men there were called, well, which are good, uh, a man cannot get pregnant. there
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i saw some kind of activist. yes, well, and there they had a conversation in the preventive. here, i see how ir is protesting. what's wrong with that? that value is freedom. your problem is that you are focused on sex for sex, of course, of course, and uh, someone might agree with you, really good is bad in sex. there, whether he is same-sex or heterosexual. let's, that's just it, yes, calmly, first of all, of course, they can watch us. children do not understand why we have. and, secondly, i don’t think that if here they are throw to the unicorns he will like this sex. and right away he said that he was heterosexual, but at the same time he seemed to be constantly for freedom. yes, he throws up all the time. here now exists to you. this will not fly throws out our discussion the thesis e and what is wrong with this, but this is love. this value is not about sex, dear friends, it's about politics, it's about control, and the fact is that well, as i see it, and it really
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agrees with what he said, bogdan, i see how it is, some society is very, yes , and the community society, yes, but passionary is very active, uh, which needs to be curbed and directed. yes, repair, of course, curb, repair and direct, and just in the context of armed conflicts, as it is very clearly demonstrated today. how is this lgbt community that seems to be about a kiss about a pride about some values ​​about cartoons becoming about war becoming about hatred becoming guided by a very blinkered one. yes, uh, a pressure killing tool. make love not war. this is the slogan did not find the time, on the contrary, it turns out to be a war. i say this is not our sixtieth. by the way, dear friends. i noted this very much both i and my like-minded people. noted. this is a very long time ago, when we saw in social networks. with what frenzy and how uh, you see, from crying these people
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attacked us in social networks, bath, cursing subjecting, there all sorts of pressure, abuse and so on. i understood that if these people were to be thrown onto the battlefield, to be trained there to shoot, to show them how and so on, and it would simply be very efficient. ah, such a martial force. here you used the word combat. yes, yes, spartans. and this is actually a danger to most countries in the same american army. they didn't want the generals. excuse us, 5 seconds left. and after the break, let's move on easily to the third version of our today's semantic name. i do not advise you to run where this mysterious agent is, we will still find him under the protection of the prime minister. can you beat the employees? of my
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growth-ready to go - it's a task to accomplish. we need more , let's do more take-off mode, a new film by alekseev vashenkin today at 23:25. weak rear, yurma was engaged. i'll tell you straight, how the special operation in ukraine split the russian intelligentsia , the fact is that they simply didn't prepare you. it’s just that they didn’t explain to you why the russians repent liberals and how they instill patriotism in russia now. it means working for her milk about it right now. this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. we continue so weak rear semantic version number three, the last one, it
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will be big for the whole of this hour, and by this we mean those of our fellow citizens who are categorically against, uh, the policy being implemented in the country, respectively, including against the special military operation in ukraine and they are very active in their categorical rejection express, and some of them even leave. e from the country, because, therefore, they say that it is already impossible to live here for the most part . they call themselves representatives of the creative class. again, i'm not very good here. you understand what it is appeared, then with such a word quacked. well, it's kind of embarrassing. yes, that's just for these people. but then for some reason i somehow more, i see. here is a creative class. it is very clear to me somehow weakly, because if you look at these people, there are not so many they. they create, if we treat
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creativity as the ability to create something like this, well, let's get to know them now and listen. what they are actually dissatisfied with and how they express it. for the creative characters who fled abroad, the former editor-in-chief of the magazine tried to intercede in tatler and vo as ksenia solovyova, who is still in russia, but turned out to be so-so. here we are in general, it seems to me that today is about the very creative class that i represent, it is very easy to kick it today, because that you are a creative class, it seems, uh, by such people who, on the very first day, were frightened of everything, left the cats in moscow and left, and they burn their mother’s day in armenia, the money is repented from there, so for all of us, they yearn for powders, artificial ones for 50 rubles . well, it's just not pretty. this is the interpretation of one of the representatives of such creatives, a former columnist for businessmen. mikhail korostekov, at the beginning of the month. he said on social networks that he left
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russia because the usual quality of life has changed. he is also very afraid of mobilization for the first time i encountered a situation where some kind of aggressive bio-garbage. can get the legal right to dispose of my physical body in the case of the so-called mobilization is unacceptable for me. i was disconnected from the services that i was used to and it is obvious that i will lose access to the life that was important to me. none of the representatives of the country's leadership considered it necessary to somehow take care of these issues, another representative of the creative intelligentsia. showman. michael chance claims to leave for a foreign land forced the law on fakes, allegedly. it interferes with self-expression at the beginning. i think, i also, like everyone else, experienced, in general, absolutely horror, a nightmare. ah. i didn't know what to do. that's actually somewhere on the second day. i realized that life has collapsed. eh
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what? i absolutely cannot exist in these circumstances that i have no way to express myself, when the special operation had just begun, one of the first ksenia sobchak flew abroad , then she joked that she went with her son on a planned vacation. now sobchak periodically dangles abroad for work last week, commenting on a trip to venice and she compared it to escaping from the ussr, though later this video. she deleted it, but the internet remembers everything, so you start. to evaluate a trip to europe, firstly, you understand that each can be the last, and secondly, all this sweet, petty-bourgeois life with cafes, restaurants, smiling tourists, all this is so much. it seems that from a different life from a different
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reality, you begin to appreciate it so much, you feel as if you escaped in the seventy-sixth year and the soviet union came here. no one knows you just got out. well, it’s a very strange feeling, i’ll think literally 3 days ago i looked at bourgeois life with cafes, restaurants, smiling people, tourists by the sea, that’s where the only minus is when you go to this bourgeois life by taxi, and the driver shows you. but this is the place where sobchak, uh, had an accident when there were people, i'm talking about krasnaya polyana, i say vladimir viktorovich please tell me, in your opinion, is there really such a creative class in our country, representatives of which, as people, but talented smart ah, mentally thin, such a bully, like kicking me in every possible way, as it was said, what to live here. yes? of course, you worked for a
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representative of creativity, let's start, i do not work with her now. well, you don't work with clients. and how did she shelter you then, some kind of bully, and you understand the logic of those people who call themselves a creative clan and have different opinions. they are well aware that in any country of society. there are people who are strong in certain positions. i always have them arise. this creative class, these people are in this creative class. they consider themselves to be higher talented than everyone else, don't they? let's start the term quacked. well, i figured it out. one of the representatives of the creative class, pavel pryanikov hello, it was big, in my opinion , until 2012, in order to somehow
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characterize this mass of people who come out on the square. this term went people. this is the second time, and the creative class is heterogeneous. just like the intelligentsia. lenin called for a reason uh, shit intelligentsia. ah. everything, why because it is, because people with whom it is almost impossible to negotiate, they are different, they are colorful and they are all the time through your fingers no matter how you try to squeeze them and the disk through your fingers was called in a children's joke further, why is this happening? can, for example, eduard limonov be attributed to the creative class, but uh, he is one of those who would not run today, alexander gleevich, dugin is a creative class, of course, an intelligentsia is an intellectual. can it be included in these? no you can not? this is very different people. there are those who run away. there are those who remain, but they do not cease to be, uh, creatives, the problem of the russian federation is precisely that we have nowhere to run inside russia, if you need to run somewhere, i explain. if you are in the united
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states of america, you are not satisfied with the lgbt agenda, you are not satisfied with the liberal party, you are not satisfied with the leftist views. you run to texas if you're in italy you run from the north of italy to the south, italy somewhere in the collabrue they call our dagestan is there somewhere to run? yes go to dagestan and so on the conservative agenda of the ultra-conservative agenda. here are our flights why do you want to run all the time? you see, while he ran away from sobchak, i understood. that, then, is also a small little tip of your theory. mirny parted ways. this is not escape found some other use for yourself to run away, nowhere, also. i 'm just creative in a different place. that's all. well, it means that this means that this is mrs. solovyova yes, the first one, i would summarize it somewhat and, probably, let's vitaly andreevich
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also as a former mallard, you are now denying him the right to be a mallard. no, well, we also had a kryakov. you know, it seems to me that this is a very heterogeneous world, where society is really class-based. it appears, perhaps, very clearly. please tell me, now you can understand the pain, uh, which misha voiced here. why can't he express himself right now? if i just somehow don’t believe a priori, like tatyana lazareva, i wouldn’t take him at all, because misha has a chance. now, if there was a war with japan now, he would be for the japanese, if it were now the first world war, he would sympathize with the germans. there would have been world war ii yes, even to put what would have happened, therefore misha shash did not even in ukraine, nor in this operation, misha shatsy has such an ideology in relation to russia, consumerism, it is not good for a person to express himself. you can understand this, you understand, they are all stars. after all, they are all such, you know , subtle egoists who believe that the world should revolve endlessly around them, that there are no
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national interests, that there is no side. there is no deep people around them, it simply does not exist. here is. he is sobchak and whatever she does the world will always wait, well, you must admit vladimir there is such a story take-off about heterogeneities to me here is a trend, by the way, very interesting outlined still have n’t written about her anywhere that she called me for about the last month , but five people exactly called, which you know is the lowest link, someone moved to the baltic states, someone is in georgia, someone is in armenia , and they call, apparently, in the form outside in the form some source. maybe i'll go for them to negotiate it. yes, it is unclear what they want to return. although someone wants to participate. you will not believe in moscow. sleeping bag, yes, although they are afraid, they are afraid, when you come back, they wrote nasty things somewhere on twitter or maybe, well, if not, just no criminal case, they are completely calm example, if i’m not sobchak, she continues to work as a shuttle. well, you know the question here. that's what someone great said that
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history repeats itself in the form of a tragedy in the form of farce. this is pure farce, because, well, i do n’t see bunin on my side, i don’t see bunin among these people, they decided apin why they are so wonderful and why russia cannot live without them. well, these are their problems personal valery valeryevich where is kryakova where are the fields, where are they last time you said that it lost the contract with miropol there, yes, it’s true, i began to sympathize and went to her website. i see her in europe, then she sings in italy, yes, and everything is in order, and she also works as a cultural shuttle, and i continue to insist that a figure culture should work as such a shuttle, because he believes and foreshadows peacetime. if you, when you were already playing happy birthday, the diplomats saw this negotiations for some reason bolevich. why are these diplomats doing this? well, this is how we see it. now, the more their grumbling of these
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diplomats, the more they have this, if russia is at war with japan, they are for japan, why did it somehow happen like this? it’s just that it’s very pretentious and you can see now, if it used to be, just some separate statements of baba yaga against the now, the more a person considers himself. here's to that very beautiful kind of creative intelligentsia. now we have called, the more. he feels somehow. here is my personal for another month. well, things have changed in the past 3 months. so today i have made this decision. i turn on the interview and immediately ask myself this person, where does he live now, if he has already left russia, shines for me like a light bulb. yes? uh-huh from behind a horizon i say well, wait, my dear. i want to listen to someone who lives here. here i will listen to sobchak, because she is coming back here. yes, i will listen to those who are in the same context with me, because i see how necessary it is. wait also the need to receive an alternative point of view valerievich
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how do you then an alternative point of view, if you refuse to listen to those who light the light bulbs of this content, i more or less understand, i am now wondering, then stayed. well, let's do it this way, if we show those whom volleybovich will not watch, because we will show. now then yes, because if not bashing, uh, according to valevich, for such a peace-loving shuttle , then it means a paramilitary shuttle, because it does not get out. there, now we will show the creative class of the creative intelligentsia , whatever you want, there will be two types of throwing, which means throwing ashes on your head. how so? is that what i did? and then nothing happened. and the second type of throwing people got the wrong one. somehow blogger nikolai solodnikov came, famous for being the father of many children and the husband of another blogger katerina gordeeva in an interview with a film agent they began to measure up to yuri dudu, who did more nonsense in life competed for 2 hours, 44
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minutes. yurma was engaged, i'll tell you, you were directly engaged. you see, we spent a huge part of our life in vain when you do material with morgenstern, when you do an interview with nastya jewish, when you do an interview with vangai, when you do another 10-15 interviews with such heroes, you work for what do you simplify the consciousness of our citizens or complicate it or do you do it or do you entertain them? what are you doing? yo-mine the producer, alexander rodnyansky, is also on fire, as if he was filming poor nastya of daddy's daughters from stalingrad and raised some wrong people with these people on these films. something happened, and we made films for them and tried to make them these films. russian culture is better in the form in which it is music literature in which it existed and consoled itself with hopes
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for and, so to speak, the preservation of some beauty. ah, outstanding. given the importance of the inner grain in a person, she did not cope with her task and two things come out. the first is that i was a part of this society, the second is that the culture did not cope, so i did not cope, of course, and for me this is such a monstrous painful experience, to be honest, i worked in entertainment projects, including ugly tatyana lazareva now lives in a villa in spain, but she laments no peace. now she said she went to a rally on bolotnaya street, she did what she could, however, not for people, but for yourself, you don’t have it. now such that just the ruling elite was very well represented, on the contrary. she knew what to give him and everything back to the crimea, and now everyone is so happy drawing the letters z on wheelchairs
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. ok then. yes, i agree with you, but i hmm know that i went to these rallies, probably now. terribly stupid. yes, not for the sake of some people there, i went for myself, you understand? and what i didn't like, i went out, i couldn't sit. a little pessimism was also included by the founder of the optimistic channel and on the rain agent natalia sindieva, they say missed the moment when it was possible to fix something beautiful lifestyle sucked, it really was a parallel life, and i was not at all interested in it. i didn't know any names. well, conditionally the prime minister is the president of these people, but i'm not interested. and then all those fat years of the 2000s , of course, they distracted us all. we didn't go to the polls. well, not a home for the example that we have just given, all the heroes
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oppose themselves in one way or another. well, to this people, i’m pledging to some mass, these are their claims to themselves that they didn’t do something, or it’s a claim that the people of the people remained wrong. it seems to me that in general, in principle, they exist with some kind of parallel reality and tried to do something with the people. here he says rodnyansky, they they did not cope with the deep folk, but russian culture for me personally. now, uh, deep russian folk culture. uh, is that here i dropped the cry to collect money for the front for some things that will be useful. there, for our fighters and people began to send from 37 rubles. before 100.000 rub. you see, this is for me a deep folk culture. now i look to the future with great optimism, because now civil society is beginning to gain strength and is beginning to influence and it is civil society, it is real. it is directly related to the real depth of
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the hand, you understand everything that you were talking about. here are the people you are talking about now, this is the same bully, yeah, who doesn’t rise to the truth. creative creative class i'm writing songs i'm writing a song in russian i'm also writing i wrote a song there, i write something about meat, but i write, yes, i write for the people. i want the people to listen, i am their soul. i want to feel, and not just write in order to light up somewhere at some party or get some kind of title of some grunt. i would like very unpleasant. if someone would call me a quack, that is, you want to say that it's still based on money. this is what self-love is. here i absolutely agree. here, uh, it's just a worldview . unfortunately, alexei gennadievich, he told me it seems, with all due respect, alexander nikolaevich alexei to drive out a more creative class. oh well, just how do you fit into the concept of born
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alexander nikolaevich maybe philosophical? well , okay. let's grow up in donetsk in otradnoye, what does it mean? i can say it’s creative alexei, you somehow oppose yourself with cylinders, because again, based on what you say we have uh-huh why are you why are you putting these sides and i ’ll try i want to shoot. and i want to say this, i want to halvay want to prioritize absolutely no, when you, uh, you're just afraid to answer my question. i will answer now. i'll answer now, look. and when you separate, so to speak, these people there are some people, some people are not people nikolai solodnikov, my favorite blogger. he showed these countries. listen, he did not show and did, so to speak, for the country, but much more than nikolaevich interviews high-profile russian composers that we do not know them at all, outstanding russian. this is how it happens kant,
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an outstanding composer, of course, this is a classical musicians andreevich yes, alexei gennadievich i won't watch tv, the team demanded that i be allowed to peep a separate video for you, there i have several hours to cut, when alec cries with his interlocutors. i don't cry on camera, i 'll try. at least, and so i can know, and we will be with you. i just wanted to just like that correctly solodnikov was born in some small town very often worries about the collapse of the soviet union and a. seeing everything that is happening around. uh, what is it and so on, so nikolai solodnikov, graduated from the suvorov military school. nicholas became. closer closer to the point was you, they asked alex whether people are the creative class or not to be separated from the people, and the creative class is the people, and oddly enough. sobchak listen. you don't have to share,
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dude. you separate yourself. yes, no one, we are creative, this is who our kids are, and yours what do you do as a storekeeper or listen, well, you don’t even know how to hang labels. why hang these labels? we are a huge multinational people. so do people do anything i do. i'm crying taxes throughout alekseevich yes to the people. what are you doing to say? i am very grateful to you yes? no, by the way, in your family. you were there when you were last, you went with me, you went. i am inviting you. let's exchange contacts after the program. let's go now, like there is no need to separate the people. here you are now talking about it or you will talk about your merits , you want to talk, please. i want to listen to you to open a little another world. listen, i don't need to open the world of real events.
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real people, then i'll tell you what the real world is. here are my two second cousins, and with whom i have not communicated for a long time, of course, they are fighting on opposite sides of the front. this is the real world for me. yes, which side are you on? on the side of truth i try. where is this true? aleksey gennadievich well, look, it turns out, after all, you are the same, well, that is, seriously. you will not be able to reconcile these relatives of yours right now, if they are on different sides, maybe after a while you will succeed. well then you have to choose the truth or one or the other, and listen to this question. tomorrow mobilization and a huge amount of mobilization. i'll go, of course, don't spread you like what's next wait let's stop people. we all understood the people, and our society presidents kept saying that
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alexey shouldn’t be divided by his management, because the society is divided, of course, by the very so-called creative ones. the people we are talking about now, we will show maxim galkin who then he loves one separate country among people, and does not love another, some other wrong country. somehow in his head it all separates perfectly. let's listen to him. i have my russian gooseberry bush and creaking floorboards. at the old cottage. this is sakharov on the podium of the congress of people's deputies. this is kalina red. vasily shukshin, this song by alla time machine ddt this is baikal and the hills of buryatia, i didn’t list everything, but there is also another russia in which sakharov was expelled from the stands, to which shukshin this is now about
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trolley flat on the air. and mikhalkov talks about infected birds from ukraine where ddt concerts are banned and children are lined up with the letters z like with gooseberries, why does he divide into and bad ? far into history. that's what, by the way, creative class creative class. this is the barking version. this is such an updated naming for the same intelligentsia, because before these people who do not agree to run, somehow structured called the intelligentsia in our pit although the intelligentsia is not about that. and whoever disagrees is not an intellectual. that’s where it means, respectively, closer to the twelfth year , this mass, which went to the rally completely heterogeneous there, from rich people to some kind of marginalized people, and they began to bypass the creative classes, because the intelligentsia, it seems, as it were to
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name for the young. well, not so, so they came up with such an element, which means, in fact, the intelligentsia. pay me. it's people who think it's at least three combinations of three factors. this person identifies himself as an intellectual, a person has a good informal education, namely this. what a cultural humanitarian. for education, that is, such a well-read one, yes, and the third is a person. e hmm has a good culture, for which we make a high culture. in what sense, an integral part of interesting is very important those people who allow themselves to call someone biogarbage, be rude, insult. yes, they can't automatically be considered intelligentsia, because they are not the bearer of this culture. here is the intelligentsia, let's bury it in the broadest sense of the word. it 's all here, sitting and alexander nikolayevich alexander nikolayevich who, to put it mildly, and
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the creative class, to some extent, everyone is here, sitting creative class here. excuse me, this is an engineer who creates something, these are programmers who create something. these are singers who create something, these are people who create political science . yes, i understand, yes, so let alexander nikolayevich always block. here i am against it let's not mark historically with us, so those who are against the authorities, it means that they are some kind of intelligentsia, but for me, those who are against the authorities are not intelligentsia, but rather, on the contrary , the intelligentsia, as a rule, are very critical in relation to, but let's alexander nikolayevich, i will repeat now the question that once, well, i think that the vast majority of the russian intelligentsia and the real creative class are absolutely healthy, absolutely healthy physical psychological people, when gumilyovs
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asked lev nikolayevich, an intellectual. he is now the god of efforts, no you intellectuals alexander nikolaevich god fall. why at least you could not love it. well, either means in 20-25 years the controversy that sounds here will be exactly 200 years old, so the answer to the question. i'll start with a short quatrain alexei konstantinovich tolstoy dvovstanov is not a fighter, but only a random guest for the truth i'm glad to lift a heavy sword, but i argue with myself. we hitherto my foal. eh, no one could draw me into a fight with a secret. i listen with horror. everything, what does it mean here, and it is infinitely far to me. uh, the so-called creative intelligentsia and i can, i can proudly say. although i do not see in this reason for pride that not a single acquaintance, except for ksenia sobchak, with whom i once took a picture in the ostankino corridor to
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annoy my friend, who dreamed of such a photo. and here, uh, uh, uh. it's good that you explained why, but it seems to me that the so -called people here are even further away from you than and rather you are from them. that's how your people think from me and the poison of the people is whatever. eh, very far away. so, let's caprice a. we will proceed from the following traditionally russian society, but it is divided into two unequal parts. well, let's call it conditionally deep people. and here is the fact that in the 19th century it was so simply referred to as an educated society. the fact that an educated society has now degraded to the portraits of the lord that we now see is another conversation and another topic. this means that these parts practically intersect with each other in one way or another very badly.
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periodically, an educated society has a syndrome. oh, how are we part of the people, we are something to the people we must free the people from serfdom, explain to them the truth, show there the negative features of socialism, and so on for ourselves personally for ourselves. i divide people into soviet and non-soviet. it's easier for me. i understand all the conventions of this selection, but nonetheless. i divide in this way, and this method has never let me down. so. eh, as far as uh, you can say you know. uh, the problem is that not soviet people they are not delineated in any way, and geographically, socially, materially, in general, non-soviet people are better than soviet people. but if you ask the question, with whom i am definitely not soviet and always against,
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which of us is the council, who is not soviet m. and which of us is soviet, who is not soviet, is there no? no, as long as i can determine, only uh, andrey as a person, i don’t advise, not soviet yes, why do you have a bruise that concessions, but i can’t understand, we don’t know each other, you think i’m slyly pretending. in general, well, you have for a while, but i don't know if it's professional or personal. yeah. let's write it down on social networks. sytin called norkin his type of thing, well, what to do, i originally identified ivan as a person, but i made a mistake for myself at some point. good. why did you ask for it? anton valerievich you who are you yourself? how are you asking now? somehow you
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know, yes, supposedly? it seems to me that at the same time i do not advise soviet and purely, because i was born in the soviet union and because, well, i can not soviet union yes, that is, historical era, or paint everything white, or you're wrong. you can, you understand what 's the matter, why, in fact, real intellectuals differ from fake intellectuals are more and more complicated, but not an intellectual who does not think, everything is simple for him black white white black black white. in fact, they noticed just the same totalitarianism. yes, that's why people or does not give. it is his duty to say how devoted he is to his family. and how much he is not devoted to his family, but if you go with him for reconnaissance, he will not go. to characterize the system, including the need to characterize the event for whether you are betrayed there or someone else of your family or not. to you, i'm with
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that we are reacting to the fact that my conviction is happening, that it is precisely the creative side that is trying to separate, because it always explains that she is better smarter and tankier and so on. but we called them already quack appeared. the definition is here on the air, there soviet people are not soviet people. and now let's move on to the opponents. these mallards, it turns out, they are also called. now. today i learned this word cultpaths, which means that this is a cult pass - this is a typical here he sits. it's like alexei. this is a cultural patriot or a patriot from culture, that is, here is a person. it seems like he is also creative and intelligent, but he does not criticize the authorities, but he the authorities support from the side of the creative class to such people such a little, squeamish, or what ? relationship? let's listen to a few of these cultpaths, as they are called. defense of our brothers sisters and then you will
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list yourself what we defend, and critics speak critics, but for me not criticism. you know this, uh, i have long for myself and many, probably, determined that there are people, and there are non-human people. it will interfere with understanding by people significant and respected by many. e even by millions of our russians, that they opinion, can be heard and perceived sincerely, they can become the mouthpiece of not truth and lies and hatred for their country. they don't think about it. they think that's where the stream is. i'm on my ship, i don't leave my ship . i want to do it on my ship in such a way that
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it is clear to the whole crew that i am on my ship, if i don’t like something here, i do it on the ship, they will cross over to another boat that is more convenient for me alekseevich, you will agree that this is how if only there was a statement by vladimir mashkov or dmitry pevtsov at some part of our creative intelligentsia is caused by this disgust or distrust there? well, somehow you know how. well, it’s not customary to say to measure in large categories. let's remember that at the beginning of the great patriotic war, when it was generally not clear what would happen, several hundred russian soviet writers, poets and composers went to the front. why, in order to see with our own eyes what is happening and it was precisely this experience that we felt with our own eyes that later gave a colossal impetus to soviet literature,
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which many do not agree with you. everyone went right, but aleksey aleksey, when you stand in front of the battalion, 19:19 at the turn of vavdeevka, where alekseevich’s shells are flying, you don’t need to tell me the dialogue. andrey, i was there too, you are mistaken. see people. look, they have fear in their eyes. listen, when was the great patriotic war. everything was clear and understandable. we've been attacked. it's clear. these people these people , please listen to me, these people lived in conditions where no one attacked them personally, what happened in the donbass was simple, but not interesting. and now they perceive all this happening as their own. no. no, they perceive it as our aggression, which led to the loss of their own, and now they perceive it as a threat. actually, well-being from this, in the end. look into the eyes that
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confidence sister. they understand they will not be able to return to russia, they will return. feeders can't . and suddenly they will be condemned here for their statements. that's what's going on? no, well, one person explained to me that this is an attempt andrey to save a colleague on radio sputnik that answered this question, but he still answered with whom he would still fulfill the oath. he will immediately comply with the store. just leave, in short, intercede, there is a huge number of eccentrics with the letter m. where among yes those among those who spoke about others, listen and among those who praise 3g and, there is also a huge number of eccentrics with the letter i, so to speak, i don’t want to name anyone there, but i know people who say one thing in smoking rooms, but in the frame they say something else, you know, and who also at first, some of them left, who are also afraid that they are just afraid, staying
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here , that they will be moved away from the feeder, you understand. well. yes, it's bad , yes it's bad. why because the number of people , this is this situation, what happened on february 24 aroused and, so to speak, contributed to the manifestation of negative feelings. you represent what they write. they just write about me in the comments. leave it on their conscience. it's just us leave it to their scum. can such write a mutual procedure, because we have now shown the action when you can always return safely. we have now shown you several artists who, well, they say, a patriotic thing is absolutely accepted now, but i regularly meet
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some caustic remarks in mashkov’s relations with vladimirovich and in relation to rosenbaum that this is all some kind of thing. to this trust that for sure this is all for the sake of some concerts of grants and so on. why is it so perceived can you explain? why i don’t disagree with mashkov’s rosenbaum there, of course, this is absolutely personal, because as he said. this is a personal confident position. for example, i have no questions, and midges periodically arise. how sincere is this position. why? here they are for you . and i don’t know, maybe he doesn’t finish his acting as an actor. perhaps, i may, i may certainly be wrong. that is, if he says it, not as an actor, then he says it sincerely, yes, well , it turns out that you look, first, first, said by rafts experience said anything. these people measure life experience by themselves. it tells me that yes, indeed, the state periodically turns to cultural figures in order for them to
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support them and generously pay any state for this, many have come across this, therefore, people in if i periodically have doubts about the sincerity of the positions of certain figures and culture who begin to wave patriotic banners, and after that, indeed, secluded in a circle close associates say the opposite thing, not what rushes from the stage. a priori do not trust. i'm talking now, he's like life to him an experienced lawyer. i will say this, and the fifty-first article of the constitution allows me not to testify. i will not testify against myself as well, against those people whom i can lead into an uncomfortable position, because this will already be a false denunciation. no, it won't be difficult. given 366 there will be no false denunciation. please don't separate us, please, let's just keep it simple, because i'm quoting, apparently, in the description of you will recognize the fruits by their fruits, thank you, then we
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will show you one such fruit now, this is alexander marshal oleg gazmanov it so happened that after that, it just might be a coincidence, or maybe not a coincidence, that after the presidential fund. a-a cultural initiatives announced that it would allocate a billion rubles to support culture and patriotism in culture, not only an association of artists appeared. e, patriots well, the song let's say a few words about the song. the song is called mama rodina in the text the artists ask forgiveness that when you fell for perestroika propaganda, they wanted jeans and a zhrachka and they say that even if the motherland did not feed truffles with parmesan. but in soviet times, there were books building detachments of space, and the olympics did not feed friends. we only have what we have. but there were books on the screen. at this moment, idyllic images from the soviet past olympic mishka pervomaisky demonstrations are quite pioneers, they are replaced by a video sequence from
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the times of perestroika and the dashing nineties, the path of alcoholics, fights in the state duma, and then on the screen there are torchlights from ukraine and a grandmother who came out with a red banner to meet the military. i wanted to ask clearly that to evaluate the work of colleagues to do this, especially publicly ungrateful, nevertheless, this is patriotism. this is fervent patriotism. it's just a good song. yes, let it be whatever. listen, let this song unite somehow. here again for the association. let her unite. i just wrote about motherland mama there 20 years ago. well, nothing is such a thing, so she can also share, because someone will say that, uh, the fact is that there
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is a second second, so to speak, the aspect of this all after all. it seems to me that those who are involved in music and the song genre in general. they should be first and foremost giving. uh, good quality elemental music and so on and so forth. right here, right here, right here, i didn't listen to the whole song, you know, so i can't judge it. e. our task is to really do our job at a high level and someone said it all wrong that if you want to really show patriotism, do something for your motherland, for example, write some good songs or and something, well, do something, build a bridge. i don't know design anything you say live patriotism. this works for the benefit of the motherland by strengthening the defense capability, for example, now i believe that it is necessary to support as much as possible. uh, the fighting spirit of our guys. i'm speaking in hospitals. for example, i'm coming, guys. there in
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the ward you know with terrible wounds. and i think listen here we win come back all these guys where will they return home? into what reality and in kirk's, which are trampling on orthodox crosses for the taste. where they will return, you see, we must, we cultural figures must also make some efforts. if we are citizens of this country. here we must make some efforts to ensure that this is just for him as far as i remember, the cross he chose should still be of high quality , you understand what kind of thing and listen to the words, well, alexey viktorovich is now published in some telegram channels there here is a photo. well that one petrosyan, for example, also speaks in the hospital , they write a lot. in general, there petrosyan speaks to different people, what a bastard in general, fu, it's called. yes, guys, by the way, many have retained a sense of humor even with the most terrible injuries. yes, and secondly, doctors say that it helps humor helps to recover. well, and someone needs to help it carefully, firstly. i
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propose to lag behind the midge from gazmanov and other things. because people in general have been quite consistent in their position all these years and stick and some sticks would not be glued. we have to show you can't. eh, in this sense, to say not to shake, that our enemies are our opponents, this is what we are doing today i am publishing. a la investigations in which this patriot a supported, and he used to receive such an amount from the state there, and now more here you need to understand that they are just on the other side of our enemies are interested in what we were sitting here and discussing whether it is patriotism or not. here's the worst thing that can happen. it, when our cultural figures will sort out our camp inside now during a special military operation, who, damn it, is more fucked up absolutely agrees. this is terrible, because in no case should this be done. and let there be many more songs of different people will be determined, of course,
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let all this be. well, that's what concerns the one who writes this. eh, so you started talking near. but the missing colleagues are telling you. and who is writing this? indeed, aren’t these people writing, who aren’t people writing this, aren’t these people they write that they are such sleeping opponents who themselves do not publicly say that we are against it, that we do not like it. don't investigate. please excuse me, now it sounded like this, that there are people who are indignant that someone has received something simple patriotism of a colleague a very large society who writes vasily in russia they generally write there or write from ukraine please stop wait. i tell you the truth yes, i wanted to explain this with a creative example, well, in
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history, transitional kinds. such as we are now, yes, we are making the transition from one state to another, there was such a small animal architeks. this is a bird with claws. and now it is practically the only surviving transitional specimen, because all the rest disappear, whether it is a living architect or not. nowhere, apparently, where do they not really survive. there is such a cartoon catdog that's about us. yes, a divided creature, but which is trying to live, well, together, and you build a philosophy of existence on the basis of nickelodeon cartoons, but we are moving on and apparently, few of us were left. why are you here now in st. petersburg this covenant arose or did not push this speech, for what? who would like to tell us? well, i wanted to say, can i
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ask you, why do you live, and you can go out for that once again, we now live in order to probably become some kind of new creature. it’s just that we are now riding this, and we are writing so that our country wins, so that my children live in the independence of a strong powerful russia, this is blood. you say, here we are talking about understand something will turn. wait, please, if the dog who wants his country to be strong, so that the children live in this stylish country, happy. and you say, i am a dog, so you don’t want your country to be strong, so that your children live in the hands of a new country. now it’s important to understand that you and a dog are not antonyms. here you make them antonyms. these are just different creatures, because we are glad, because valery valeryevich quietly quietly sense. wait, i'm a man of metaphors, because in life in life there is a cat and there is a dog, and
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catdog - this is what they came up with banned catdog no , there is no department, because it's not true. have you seen kapsa alekseyanovich. i will explain, yes, this is really an allegory, we will not omit it in order to no, you always open the allegories of me. yes, not me in this case, yes, overlap, do not want to answer specific questions, he says. i want my country to be strong. yes, so that my children live in russia there is no russia for anyone on the screen. they will say damage the same. and what was it? here we say over and over again that anyway in russia there was a balance between now soviet soviet before. it was the liberal conservatives in russia, so to speak, during the current government. somewhere it was long, different, and so on, there was always a balance. it
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seems to me that it is not now that the situation is such that an imbalance occurs, it is violated, it is violated. this is on the scales, even if 20x80, if the liberals have 20, but it's all the same to the stuccoists, and you will agree. please, and now there is an imbalance alexei if we speak, and if we we say that with a balance, if we speak with a balance and the president talks about it during the munich speech, yes, what is democracy, the rule of the majority, while observing the opinions of alekseevich , you can say so, maybe we are smaller. stop, i'm glad to explain to you, perhaps a special military operation. yes, it seemed to you that it exists in balance, because a significant number of people did not adjoin to anyone and neither to the other side, and in general to them. here, yes, in this
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other country, you still lived anyway. and now, when everything has escalated, we suddenly realized that i i don't know, maybe to your sadness. maybe my joys, maybe, on the contrary, i don’t know that in fact there is no balance, that there is just one small group that loudly tells us certain things that we are now showing , there are all the others that are at the hour when you need decide. they take a very specific position. i don't know, so to speak, how to measure these piles, about which you speak, ivan sergeevich, really, i don't know, i admit that this is not a small pile. this is not a small pile and i admit it is small and smelly. yes, yes no, and the reduction in the reduction of this handful harms our country harms our country. so everything after the victory. we take a break, we take a break, we ask the final question. the sister worries about her sister, because of her appearance. her husband
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mocks her and changes at the beginning of the word. i think it's offensive toad. well, how did your tongue turn to call your wife a toad. that's how a quarrel jumped out to get married is a mountain for his wife. it's her family that drives her into the complex because of her appearance. and why doesn’t it bother you constantly in our family tastier, as we met, a small tumor was growing over the years. is it possible to save the face of a woman with a pathology that threatens her life and save her family, we are all worried, what will happen next, i left it's hard for some woman in the region. well, yes, sergei flew after all. it's not easy if you visit your old friend, of course, here 's something like that. that's the moral right to get into this situation is beyond today at 16:45 ntv shark premiere today at 20:00 on ntv are going
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will receive a second icon as a gift. call or order on our website leomax.ru shark premiere today at 20:00 on ntv question what did we get? why in our country and? you can probably even these soviet union yes and the russian federation right now. this is the general trend. so, why in our country the intelligentsia, as a rule, is critical of authorities. in general, this will change sometime or it will always be like this. andrey andreyevich, you know , the intelligentsia are very different. i know now very many people who, without the demagogy of these sufferings. just because of their name, they collect a lot of money for our army, buying very expensive equipment. and here are these people. they will always be here, but these people, well, the checks have earned and quarreled, and god bless them. alexander
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nikolaevich well, as i outlined the situation today. i think this is because the power is practically always relies on the deep people and almost always does not take into account the interests of what we called the intelligentsia here everything, that is, they feel so unloved, as if pavel alekseevich well, the problem is that this definition itself has undergone such a metamorphosis over the past 100 years perceives anyway, nonetheless. yes, this person is an intellectual for me. uh, smart, educated, critical thinking, of course, who are with their country first of all, because patriotism is to be on your part the most difficult moments when it is not profitable for you, this is the real intellectual. yeah, so vladimir viktorovich, the intelligentsia is not only critical of the authorities. and to everything, because she is rightly seen as a critical thinker, including critical thoughts, thinking in relation to herself, and this will never change like that. i think everything will change when it changes, like vertical
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relations, because power is always on top, and the one on top is always right. antonovych power is on top of others. yes taxes, then, uh, come back. yes, because as you call the ship, so it will float. as they say, we called the wrong ship the intelligentsia, the only question is just a question - it's like with mcdonald's, the point is sad, some new naming. now the title to speak. i recently read that the best roman soldiers of the most e, generally qualified and experienced were called intellectuals. yes, i have not heard about this speech about the fact that intellectuals must be the critical setting for everything. this is vladimir viktorovich, i thought about my grandfather. doctor of technical sciences aircraft designer laureates of the soviet era are still state awards for inventions. for which i can not really find, because some of them are secret. these are all military or near military developments, but at the same time he was an honest communist. here, was he really not an intellectual
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at the same time? well, i doubt something, but the story is about the fact that real intellectuals have enough problems besides political ones, odessa is evening. an intelligent family, the husband sits reading a newspaper next to him. the wife plays the cello. half an hour -an hour and a half he puts down the newspaper takes off his glasses well. we will buy these italian boots. it was a meeting place that cannot be changed weekdays 14:00 ntv goodbye.

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