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bets are made, we have everything to burn the russian soldiers of the liberators, are the ukrainian army ready to hit the crimean bridge, as soon as this gut crashes, they will start to panic against whom it is strengthened to arm, poland if you want peace, prepare for war, will china start a special operation in taiwan we will fight at any cost until the very end or it's all bluff in this dangerous world. we have an obligation to make nato stronger about this today in our program. norkin my colleague ivan trushkin we are working live, and today as part of the st. petersburg international economic forum, the president of russia will speak, as kremlin spokesman dmitry peskov said the day before, vladimir putin is personally
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working on the text of this speech, which, like peskovsky, will be very important. basically. it should be devoted to the development of the economy in the current, to put it mildly, not the most favorable conditions, but we do not know for sure. uh, the agenda of the st. petersburg forum, so as soon as the president starts his speech. we'll take him out right away. ether. you will see it live. here we are, let's get back to the current information agenda. bye. sorry no details yet. uh, the visit of the european leaders of the leaders of france, germany, italy , and for some reason, an official from romania who joined them to kiev, they say that they really tried to persuade zelensky to finish. here is some kind of senseless butting resistance and start negotiations apparently failed to be judged. uh, at least for such a sudden abrupt change in rhetoric kyiv naturally in the direction of tightening.
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this morning, some kind of lady. i'm talking about her for the first time. ah, i actually did. maybe you know vanya, she is some kind of representative. e zelensky in crimea, the surname is tashev. this show has not been heard before, so here it is, but nevertheless, such a position, as it were. so she said that hmm kiev tactics, kiev approach to the issue of the return of the crimea is changing and they are now considering exclusively military methods. ah, at the same time, uh , other kiev officials began to speak out more aggressively, in including minister of defense reznikov now we will show it to you. in general, they are no longer even talking about the july counteroffensive, as andrei vladimirovich tells us, but the beginning of the military operation to liberate crimea, with all the ensuing consequences. let's see. on thursday, the ukrainian army was threatened to destroy the crimean bridge, which in kiev stubbornly calls the kerch pier, it is over it that russia is transferring its reserves. this means that this artery must be urgently cut off,
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the kerch bridge is one of the goals. yes this 100%, well, it’s not a secret either for their military, not for our military, or for their civilians, not for our civilians, this will be the number one goal for defeating hemorrhoids - this is a trick. yes, of course, well, that is, we are, as it were, the main gut, er, pulling up reserves. just need to trim as soon as this guts are trimmed. panic will begin on the same day, the american television channel cnn published an interview with the ukrainian minister of defense, who, in all seriousness, announced plans to invade crimea in order to return the peninsula. minister of ukraine defense to say that american weapons will help ukraine return the occupied territories. we are going to return all the territories and crimea. crimea is ukraine. for me, this is absolutely. it is understandable that you say that crimea is the target of the armed forces of ukraine crimea
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is a strategic target for ukraine because it is ukrainian territory. we will move step by step. the day before , jubaiden announced billions of dollars in new military aid to ukraine. it will include coastal defense artillery, advanced missile systems and the head of the pentagon did not need ammunition in detail, the united states will provide an additional one billion dollar security assistance package, which includes, among other things, guided munitions for multiple launch rocket systems, another 18 howitzer 777 and tactical vehicles, as well as 36,000 shells caliber 155 mm. at the beginning of unica. it has already been handed over to the first batch of american himax multiple launch rocket systems in line. party a few days ago, deputy head of the ministry of defense of ukraine anna malyar complained that her country received from the west
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only 10% of the necessary weapons on the same day, the head of the servant of the people faction, david rahamia, arrived in washington where, according to the local press, he asked to accelerate the pace of arms supplies at the same time to recognize russia as a state of terrorists. our diplomats in turn. warned that the new american weapons. in ukraine will be directed against civilians is of extreme concern that a senior pentagon official admits the possibility of expanding supplies long-range complexes. this only confirms that the americans have no aspirations for a peaceful settlement, one can only be horrified by the likely consequences of the use of rocket launchers by the nazis during attacks on cities and other civilian targets. so before andrei vladimirovich, according to tradition. yes, you are the first because you didn’t have it and you are suspiciously tanned somewhere, which means that you went there
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closer to ukraine than in moscow well, it’s clear that closer than to ukraine means before andrey vladimirovich explains two things to us now small additions. e, s. what could be connected? that's what all this rhetoric means, according to nbc, the american television company president biden, showed dissatisfaction with, uh, public statements. uh, us secretary of defense austin and secretary of state blinkin, and according to the nbc, the president doesn't like that they are too supportive of ukraine. he asked for them. now i will quote from this material not to give birth, not to give birth to realistic expectations and not to provoke russia. so here, no matter how much it all fits together, the second. this is quite information fresh for now. we cannot confirm it to you, but it is from more than reliable sources, and it became known that ukrainian servicemen began to leave the north of donetsk with the nitrogen plant and they surrender. if this is so, then all these statements that we will
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now capture crimea there and cut off the gut of the russians there. this is a common story that fits into what happened outside mariupol, that is, we have a problem here, but in fact these are public translations. yes, you need to get over it somehow . now andrei vladimirovich is your some explanation of the version, firstly, with regard to kiev on a visit. uh, the ecumenical thinks the visit went great. yes , why because, and he was guaranteed a candidacy in the european union and from the side of sputum, without any, without any conditions, absolutely this is all already practically, but the second, which means that macron and salt and all four there was an era, and everyone always confirmed to e zelensky that no one would put pressure on him regarding negotiations with russia, moreover, they all said that none no one from the european union will carry out mediation matters. why was it necessary? what is this information to convey? yes , such a delegation should come to bow. this is
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, firstly, a gesture of support once a second yes , everywhere, secondly, solidarity, and this is like a step before the european commission makes a final decision. excuse me , i'm interrupting you ursul anderland. said they recommend they will make the decision, as it is now customary to say membership. thanks, sergey lavrov and radiant, as for everything else there crimean bridge and so on, uh, the situation is a little more complicated. yes, it is juicier, because now in the city of brussels we are working on a very interesting document, a preliminary one, the name of which is about conducting a special nato military operation to ensure the territorial integrity of ukraine and it must be introduced to the troops of ukraine, it starts to fight with us for real. very interesting, there are smart people sitting there. i know many people they talk about what you know, it's not a guarantee that they are smart people, you never know who you know, a
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the fact is that they are just ready to fight with russia on the territory of ukraine and they are considered the americans, the british are satisfied. they keep saying that they don't want them all to be interested in the studio. we now have political issues, they are economic. wait for joseph, a very interesting approach, because we are talking about a war with russia only on the territory of ukraine and moreover, uh , there is an idea of ​​​​creating a joint military command of nato and uh, the ukrainian armed forces on the territory of ukraine what will be the guarantees from the point of view of brussels? they took something apparently, yes, normally, it will be normal to guarantee that the apu will not strike at the territory. what else in this case limits russia from delivering strikes on nato countries if nato countries fight far against the russian one, not everyone agrees that for what they just said,
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referring to them as a bridge, there are dozens of ways to somehow carry on blow, so we must know, so there will be no blow. no, let's start with me. the first one came at night, and the french are considering, and the negotiations, as a disaster. just like a disaster excludes the possibility that zelensky may consider it a run for the french to pull out the issue, after all, not in this, but the day after tomorrow, and the second round of elections to france yes, ukraine has turned into an internal political problem of key european countries and has become a big headache. for all those who have ahead of the election. macron went for victory because he was able to report that we will support ukraine on the status of a candidate, and ukraine will declare that it
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is ready for copper negotiations. yeah, moreover , discussed according to my information, discussed framework, and the leaders of europe said that yes, kharkov and odessa should not go to russia, and everything else should be the subject of negotiations , that’s what it sounded like. we will not negotiate for you. well, maybe you understand that the boundaries of support will be largely determined by our internal political situation. what do you think about this document that is being prepared? this is absolutely impossible, because such a document can be prepared by the heads of nato operational operatives, but it also requires ratification by all countries. here you are
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imagine what will happen. if, uh, well, even with him a very active girl. e in germany yes, if you imagine to ethicize the direct involvement of nato such earn direct involvement in the european war. this is exactly the one within the political nightmare how to survive. and you can say that i'm going to tell you some nonsense in the nearest place. who wants in this operation. stupid participants all the rest you want outside of nato, play whatever you want, but not to a painful extent, the political and military structures of nato come on, yes, here they are
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can not be. it's just a nightmare, which is just two two myths. in my opinion, one such here is that nato is preparing to start a direct war with russia on the territory of ukraine well, nothing at all, even the most aggressive nato members are such a step. but others should say that they don’t want unintentional, they’re not going to participate in direct clashes between the military with the russian federation on the territory of ukraine or anywhere else it is against them that it is beneficial to use various ukrainian formations confrontation with russia. they don't lose their people this way. they are losing their own human resources and using those who do not mind, they are not going to, wait, i will interrupt you. here you are saying that they do not want the most aggressive ones, but for some reason they did not name them. poland is in that number on this list. we here in the announcement remember, yes dear viewers. if you want
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peace, prepare for war. it was the same marovetska, polish, come on, bye. let's give polish material, because there will be two speeches at once in the polish prime minister, which, firstly, threatens russia, and secondly, it demands that funding be increased by even more. in general, there the mood is the most militant. the day before, polish minister of defense mariusz bylschik called on the seven atlantic alliance to increase the military budget, they say. today , nato funding is lower than it was in the early nineties, despite the fact that it is on the borders of the bloc. according to the minister, at the same time, it is necessary to arm ukraine as much as possible, and if this is not done , the russian-polish border will soon will increase greatly. our goal is for our southeastern border to be with ukraine and not with russia, we are aware of everything, if russia occupies ukraine, then it will not stop, but will go further, because the kremlin’s goal is to rebuild the empire, earlier the head of the polish defense department announced that warsaw
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will increase its defense spending to 3% of gdp and the army to 300,000 people, that is, twice at once, while the military spending of the leading european nato countries does not exceed 2% of gdp . in addition, poland intends to purchase 500 missile systems from the united states hymars, however, their absence does not prevent the polish prime minister marovetsky from threatening russia with all his might. the kremlin should know that if russia ever conceives poland, then we have 40 million poles ready to resist it. we are a free and independent country in every possible way, and we will never give it up. we wish for peace, but the roman proverb is still alive. if you want peace, get ready for war, ready for more come on, war, just a few days before this speech, borovitsky went to a forum called the great polish project, where he complained about it the country has not yet recovered the lost territories. however, now warsaw has every chance of that, chances are we missed this opportunity
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between the world wars, but now we have a new great chance to create a superpower with this chance. we are indebted to the ukrainian nation, which today heroically defends not only its freedom, but also our freedom, not only its state sovereignty, but also european countries. elena poles say that they are arming and preparing to return the territories. it's a calculated bluff for some general such stir up the situation or they seriously do not. yes, let it be, i think that this is just not bluff, but more now obsessed with the idea of ​​​​creating the commonwealth two, well, yes, the great and polish project. well, everything, everything, as it were said at once. they did not begin to prepare for this more these nationalist plans today. they never turned, given that they just have a genetic uh, hatred of russia uh since the
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time of the russian empire, although, in fact, poland poland owes the fact that it exists now on the map russian empire to the fact that there is a polish language in general. it owes the russian empire to the congress of vienna in 1815, when alexander literally pushed through. eh, the possibility of creating a kingdom of poland as part of russia is true, while napoleon gave them just for participating in the napoleonic wars of the hertzian, shavskaya. at the same time, it will not even give the opportunity to do all this a little differently. that 's all the same bluff and now, if possible, no. ah, they do it for themselves, they think that it ’s not a bluff, we can regard it as nonsense, a for you, they believe that this is not a bluff. but they are being held back today by the reluctance of nato countries to directly participate in the armed conflict in ukraine, so poland is trying to ensure
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that it seems to close its eyes to the fact that e polish volunteers are whatever. their names entered here correctly, yes, the strength of the polish army. uh, less than the ukrainian army and that's it. yes, they want, and they have a very large percentage there. these are conscripts . they are going to fight as they are going, well going. well? poland what is a hat , a polish famous and second world war beginning of the second year. yes, yes, yes, yes, well, the poles - what else is that? why do they have such parity now in front of the ukrainians. now we listened to maravetsky, after all, they, e, have always treated ukrainians as a second-class nation, and now to defend ukraine, because the ukrainian army is much larger in number and they count. well, it was destroying something. there is something left to call on, which means they count in the same way as the whole west with the hands of the poles with
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the help of nato weapons, but decide well forgiveness hands ukrainians told you, yes , it means to return, if, according to andrey vladimirovich, the negotiations in kiev are europeans. this is zelensky's victory, according to evgenievich , a reference to french and sources. this is a catastrophe change of territory. we see the obvious. yes, we will now go to war in crimea , plus more. forgive the insinuations. so far, so, about a certain nato document. well, let's, let's, we heard that macron and everyone else were not forced by zelensky, which means negotiations with russia. but, well, it's not like that. because the western press itself writes the fact that the level of secret negotiations was just the same as what they said in plain text zelensky should be carefully read. you heard about usa today and today, they are 23 articles. they recalled it because it turned out in advance and so that there were such surprises. so
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that's the result. yes, we are dealing with ukraine, and sometimes it is tracked for longer, because now again we are taking somewhere and not going there literally 2 days ago, the french foreign ministry publicly said that there is no european union for you, and as long as you mean, well, what a candidacy, but this, yes, there, of course, this candidate is perfect. so active today, but i don’t know what anton is there? can't candidate members. it's not a member. absolutely. yes, when no france said this, they are smart people. they perfectly understand that the conclusion of peace in ukraine yes, peace in ukraine is possible only on russia’s terms, that is, they say in plain text, well, it’s true that dudes stop, and then we will discuss the
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european union, now about poland, i completely agree, only poland, of course, in general, well, not a rival of 160.000. well what they increase bullshit. everything, it is clear that they will see it. but it's not now that everyone will do it. it's there, why do they make such statements? well, first of all, they really want to get involved. yes, then they have some chances, but the most important moment, what a colleague said. this is a solution to domestic political problems. they say it to the internal audience all hold on. the french will also stay in power, but the fact that zelensky makes a statement that this is victory is there and that’s it. good. listen, well, zelensky lies all the time every day, that you are surprised now, while even somehow the public plane is a game for the public. and there are secret negotiations. there are completely different things , they are sure that the poles are doing everything for an internal audience. and if the biden winks at them , they will not bring their volunteers anywhere in the lviv region and so on. nato does not want to participate in this, for
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them it will not be scary. you don't hear me wink. what means? what means? well? seek he can wink uh uncontrollable. well, maybe yes, then he will say that they are all philosophy, which said that everything is bad in the economy. only we had a war. wait for modern conditions. never say never stanislav aleks and why none of you are like this or have you forgotten? or are you not conveying special meaning? here is this information from investments that the void pulled austin and pancakes so that they are not very public there, but the fact is that after all, the idea that in the united states there is some kind of such a vertical that is absolutely in goes one way. it's an idea false indeed. there are, uh, hawks, including doskin, who recently stated openly that, in general, the main goal of the united states of support for ukraine is to weaken or uh defeat russia in uh. actually on the
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battlefield. in this sense, the continuation of the supply of weapons, they set themselves precisely this goal , but what about the baydan? well , it’s clear that to a lesser extent than austin is interested in e intensifying the conflict in europe , and, well, because he just came, e to the presidency, to establish a normal relations with europe that have been slightly tarnished through the trump presidency. and here it turns out that he had just established relations with europe, then bang europe began. incidentally, i here agree with my colleagues who say that it is true that continental europe is under the program of large , serious countries like germany and france . i think that they, well, hinted to zelensky or somehow told him that after all, but hmm, someone will support andrei vladimirovich’s version well, i just don’t i see, i don't see. you can entertain us will tell. i do not see the point of germany and france to fight well ukraine version. what for anything? this is really all kiev andrey vladimirovich do not believe it. this is the reality that you will see for them. i won't tell here. no what why? we need to
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see what you see. all questions related to candidacy in the european union, and that's it. everything will be decided, right? russia will not be everything. let's put one more ukraine then on this turret, uh, moldavian, because somehow everything is not there either very understandable, sergey lavrov just paid attention to this the day before. please show us the material on the eve of the head of the russian. sergey lavrov’s mida said that they are trying to make a second ukraine out of moldova, they promise chisinau membership in the eu, which in turn is trying to blackmail russia , the russians should again give us a discount on gas compared to those contracts that were signed to defer payments. uh, that is, you know begging by and large, extortion, and playing here, if you tell us if you don't do it faster, let's go to europe and if you do it anyway, let's go slower
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, the european union works very rudely, forcing these not even candidates yet. open, as you said, the second front, meanwhile, last wednesday, french president emmanuel macron personally went to chisinau where he met with his moldovan counterpart my sandu at a meeting to discuss moldova's accession to the eu but most importantly, macron promised to chisinau 40 million euros from the european fund on defense in this complex context in the context war, threatening both moldova and all of europe, your country will receive an additional 40 million euros from our defense fund, which will increase. double your military budget. we know that moldova adheres to a neutral status. but this in no way means the demilitarization of the country. literally a few days before the visit of the french leader in chisinau, they again started talking about the return of the territory. pridnestrovie, as the deputy prime minister of moldova for integration alex silver told the press, the republic sees
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these lands in its composition and does not consider option to opt out of the region. chisinau has some developments regarding the status of pridnestrovie within moldova and reintegration at the societal level is gradually taking place, in my opinion , there is no need to abandon the 5 + 2 format, perhaps it is necessary to raise the status of the european union and the united states from observers to full-fledged participants in the negotiations, so that all parties are equally presented. well, on the one hand, when the state promises 40 million euros in order to double the working budget. this, of course, speaks a little funny about the potential military this, but on the other hand, it ’s still, yes, an increase in the military budget, nikolayevich, how do you like all this mazaika well, this is one of the components, that is, a situation where all countries of the post-soviet space, uh, try on the situation in ukraine we all want it or not, of course. everything is even quiet inside itself, not
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publicly, and belarus is also thinking about this, if you say something, or do something, or we look. what is happening in ukraine, therefore, to the great regret of the historical at the moment when the the soviet union did not understand that it was necessary to preserve the space and the unification of the countries of the role, then the cis, of course, did not play. yeah look at the european union between the countries of the european union, military conflicts do not occur, although they have been descending for hundreds of years, so some hints are visible. we may even have time to talk about something today. well you're missing, well viewed, that's not what 's really going on. and at the same time, it is clear that a military defeat of russia in a clash in ukraine is impossible and it is impossible to end this conflict until the tools are found for how the candles for safety will be. is it possible to join nato in the form that i
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did not really want to comment on, but i will have to, because now is the time to deny and guarantee that something will not happen in recent years. well, i would say three maybe years is impossible. let's put ourselves in, let's say, the eighteenth year, who could have imagined the world er crisis world lockdown, who could have imagined such a speed? e virus spread, who could have imagined the scale of the military clash in europe? in general , he refused to answer questions . pay attention, everyone, probably, noticed that in any bloc there is military-political or economic, as it is. there are different countries, the smaller the country, the more lightweight it is glory, the more militant it is chloid. yes , pay attention. and this is understandable. why
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is there something going wrong. we are a small one that blows away and then we need little. and the larger the country, including here in this rhetoric, about which you are talking today about some kind of nato military actions on the territory of ukraine, the topic of us is more horror , a european country emphasizes this attitude, and now the germans and the french, as serious players in the european union, date. they are quite tense about this, but most importantly, who do europeans ask such questions when there is an older brother across the ocean. and here is the united states of america regarding the conduct of any hostilities by nato with russia on any territory. they don't even want to close the sky they are just like the largest countries and, in general, the largest nuclear country , treat this with an understanding of what can happen in the event of a conflict. note that it is the president of the
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united states who most often emphasizes that the united states is not trying to enter into a military conflict with russia. the united states is making sure that nato does not get involved in a military conflict. therefore, what you are talking about in relation to the document that such military-strategic documents are being developed in the city of brussels developed are developing all will be developed is a plans, a b and so on. these are textbooks. as you know, some documents of some actions in case of unforeseen events. but that doesn't mean it is. the plan, which will convey what will be official, in fact nato is working, just like many other organizations by consensus, only when all three dozen states have all the questions to say. yes, this is probably impossible even the slovaks will never give to this. welcome
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to the conduct of hostilities 100 km. now alexander it's now. and, if in a few weeks we see how the advantages of the russian army, well, an avalanche is growing and we understand that the ukrainians have remembered that either nato is defeated at this moment can dare such actions against the wall of the beast. yes, clamped. he may be capable of dobrosov. that's exactly what the walls are here for, but if in this situation the wall is no, you are talking about what if, as they say, russia approaches the western borders. theoretically , it is possible not only to the dnieper, but even further there it is worth considering how nato will behave in such a situation. you need to understand that there will not be , uh, no, world war iii is another factor. and you are right, a key player,
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the united states. agreeing to discuss nato's participation in hostilities means that there will be few democrats left in congress at all. you understand, it's just badina, but they will tear it like tuzik has a heating pad. do you see these parliamentary expression, so he is like the leader of the republic of democrats and pulls his a. uh, the ministers who are not responsible for the elections in the same once again in ukraine has clearly become the most important issue of the internal police ukrainians can rejoice. they turned into a key factor in the autumn of world politics, the land elections, and in italy, the collapse of the ruling coalition, that they
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pinned down and start in vain as leaders of the world, but as a result of their activities, well, they really solve their internal issues, but with the lives of ukrainians and russians, who perish there and indeed. there is no reason for the united states to interfere now with its participation in, of course, not immediately large and small countries. well, let's just know that the united states is a large country. great britain is a large country , the area is also not small, like romania, they take a rather aggressive position, and small luxembourg or or holland are not ahead of the rest in the fight. yes, especially some kind of luxembourg, so it’s not the size of the country, but what really matters. if there were no major players who we would like to use this situation against russia, what we see would not happen now, as for this, uh hmm, a leak in the
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nbc about the fact that canoes pulled on the minister of defense of the war and the guests of this blinkin he was dissatisfied with. he was unhappy with what they repeatedly stated sometime in april. it was at that time that they were counting on the victory of ukraine in this military conflict. that is, he fully agrees with them that, by the way, the supply of weapons. he fully agrees with them that it is necessary to use, that is, this situation in order for russia he fully agrees with them to support kiev in opposition to the continuation of the confrontation with russia and not to go into negotiations for the time being. and what they agree with is that he didn't want them to make a statement that he knew full well could not be realized. all this is wonderful. it is clear in the west, including that it is impossible to ensure ukraine's victory in this conflict, that it is only a matter of time, that ukraine's position is, in fact, weakening every day with every weeks, which zelensky now admits in fact, yes, that’s why he didn’t want to create such expectations in the western e-politicum,
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come on, we are now discussing what topic the event is about, well, on a completely different end of the earth, if you remember, i said something a couple of days ago that i was sitting signed. there is a very interesting document, but this is already a fact, because it has indeed already been signed by the western press. they say that the chinese will taiwan's special military operation to carry out this has long been talked about has long been talked about a few years ago. well, i ca n't say with 100% they said, yes, maybe, well, somehow now they are somehow talking about this as, uh, a more likely scenario. let's see last monday it became. it is known that the chinese leader sitting zenping expanded the capabilities of his army and allowed the citation of non-military use of troops. how to understand this it is not yet clear the text of the document is classified, but some details are still in the press or insulated. the document is aimed at protecting
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people's lives and property, protecting national sovereignty, security and development interests, as well as protecting world peace and regional stability, british journalists are confident that comrade xi's order will lead to mainland china's invasion of taiwan, they say. this is now inevitable. china could take on the russian scenario by piloting a new directive that would expand the use of its growing military for non-military purposes. this can provide beijing. cover needed to launch an attack on taiwan without the legal complications or international condemnation that comes with a declaration of war the day before the signing of the new directive , fuel was added to the fire, and the secretary of defense, at a meeting with the head of the pentagon in singapore, he said that any attempts by taiwan to secede would be severely suppressed by all available means, if anyone tries to split
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taiwan from china, we will not hesitate to take the fight, we will fight at any cost and to the very end as the main provocateurs. in this situation the americans speak a few weeks ago, the new york times reported on washington's plans to increase its military presence in taiwan, in addition, the us intends to pump up the taiwanese army of weapons. as it happens in ukraine, at the same time, the president bytes also made a special statement. we support the one china policy, we support everything we have done in the past, but this does not mean that china has jurisdiction to invade and take over taiwan, so we , together with japan and other countries, will do everything to prevent this. so elena vladimirovna, do you see any change in the situation or not, that the directive has been signed, and the possibility of using the chinese armed forces for non- military purposes, or military purposes. what are non-
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military targets? are these civilian targets? i think that after all, this is primarily directed not in connection with the taiwanese issue of using the army, but rather, it is in internal political civil conflicts that the situation in china has now aggravated before the xx congress of the cpc against the baba faster the confrontation within the political situation in china has escalated to say that the comrades feel so insecure that she discusses issues with the army so that it enters the square. well, what will he do, how was he going to make documents for this on the square, if he did so, for this he needed a separate document. this is a directive, of course, because according to the law according to those rules. which ones from china he had to sign, it's a directive. this is which document is not a ccp document. this is a directive chairman. this is the first. second, regarding taiwan, the
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situation is unfolding before our eyes. very similar to how the situation around ukraine unfolded. look at the same, the united states of america again says that we will not allow taiwan, that china will invade. here china will invade putin will invade ukraine tomorrow putin will move to the border tomorrow. everything, just like someone with a mirror is a mirror reflection. it is quite possible that the chinese leadership will try to prevent this scenario, uh, to prevent the united states of america hasn't pumped up. uh, taiwan is pumped up as it should be. uh, ukraine's weapons have drawn conclusions. maybe china has learned from our mistake in 2015, there is a certain logic to this in that preventive means a problem, but let's do it this way, but in order for you to ask a cool question. it seems to me the most correct question. announce the list,
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please, when you ask. and that some kind of document is needed for this, but in a different context, in the case of taiwan, there is no additional document, if they want me you don't need to do something, because this is a war, this is part of china and they have the right to do whatever they want once the second is not military. well, again , this is not military, obviously these are not special military operations. although it may be some kind of police function. indeed, this is not a military function. yes, that's why when we write, uh, or rather, we rely on the western media, but then again, here we are. well, look, they have elections soon, because china is what america is. weak in relation to china - this is again the same claim of trump to biden to the republicans of the democrats, which is not enough. here and here they all begin, then again. this is how journalism works, alas, when we read a source in the russian media and there for a long time
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this is not the work of journalists. someone found out something, this is a controlled drain and the question arises. and to whom and why is this controllable? why? as if we, as it were, also drove the drain tank, framed warned no, wait. i'm talking about publishing there is not even a publication, that there is no such thing. when you say something, for example, he says, the source, for example, expert is a different question. here is the source. and when the publication writes, it means on the internet. and we have a source. and this is 99%, this is my source needed with this information. well, that's how friends work. what is the difference between the first example and the second? what example? well, when there is a specific expert and when you newspaper is written there, when one of the problems is now the source right? about well, right, well, i'm talking about all never on them to use. this is a problem topic. do not leave the problem even
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before the institution of elections, because all our experts today are this shit, because they have elections there, but these ones, because elections are evil to live here. now with this so that it is clear, so where the legs grow from, and exactly a month ago it passed in beijing. well, the meeting of the leadership of the ccp and the military leadership of china, at which they discussed making adjustments to beijing's military strategy, and the most important conclusion was made that in the event of a conflict the united states. china will not have to fight on two fronts, but there will be only one piece of fruit. this was the main conclusion, which, by the way, explain what two fronts mean. this means that in the event of a conflict, let's say standing up and will not arise. the military conflict between china and japan, china and india at the same time, and so on. and that's just the
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key, uh, understanding why. that's where this directive comes in. and the thing is, they're sure they can't stand. now they are sure. this is now they are sure of it. this is the first moment the second moment lies in the fact that now the main phase of the rearmament of the people's liberation army has actually been completed. china last year was key in terms of rearmament - this is the balance of forces at sea, which is fundamentally important in the event of an operation in taiwan. yeah, china now has enough strength to deter the american fleet. this is the third aircraft carrier. yesterday, it all went down that's it, so i think the operation is a special war operation to liberate taiwan from the american nazis is quite possible. here you go it did not. i do not agree, of course, to call a spade a spade there. let's. because it is clear that, on the one hand, comrade xi, of course, would like to exercise control over taiwan and enter the history of china as a
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unifier, which means finally these two, and i would like to unite the torn parts of one nation, of course, i would like to, but on the other hand, when they write in the daily mail that they looked at the example of a russian special operation, they decided to follow in its footsteps, but so, uh, for now. they watch that the russian special military operation. it, firstly, did not lead to quick results, and secondly, a huge number of sanctions there always result. uh, a good result is quite simply what's the point of a man talking to girls about this topic. what's the point? now but what 's the point of china now and a special military operation. it depends on what russia is doing. well , it’s so wonderful, it turns out that russia gets even half an hour, that is, in the future, of course, this is a common chinese tact that this is our territory, but specifically now in this this year or this month, well, i see no reason to fly, that is. 160 into ukrainian there i will repeat everything about the same. ah, it was said. e
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has changed, i will slightly correct the situation inside the political in china in what sense the requirements for the protection of china's national state sovereignty have greatly increased the requirements for selpinin. he did break the two-term rule. uh-huh and he has to justify it every day by protecting national state interests, so an additional document appears that is absolutely was not needed from a technical or political point of view. this is the first. second this document is a warning to taiwan's internal political there is a strong confrontation between those who advocate the declaration of taiwan independence and the gabentans, who traditionally say that let's find. the formula of mutual existence hong kong lives happily ever after. let's try to negotiate and stipulate more free
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terms in these conditions. why should china risk military operations with military operations when it still has a huge the amount of military and political pressure do you think that a special non-military, military operation in taiwan will be a risk for the selpina, or vice versa, an opportunity to rise in china itself to such a height that you need then a huge bonus. but when i read about civilian use, i, of course, have a model for returning crimea to my native tie. if they understand, yes, yes, and when you say that china has no mandate. sorry at that moment. when the security council adopted a united china, e, china was assigned the only representative office of the un and
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in doing so, he established a rule of international law that the authorities of beijing can eat outside their borders. so, look. let's also, in continuation of what the axis said, it means that the united states will not be able to impose such a large-scale sanctions against china, because the chinese economy is much larger and business is connected with the american federation, and despite the fact that they even suffered from russian anti-russian sanctions, the economy. we know that inflation is going on in the american economy right now and so on. but with china, this number will not work with them. it is too plus one. i would like my speculation regarding this document to release speculation, because the chinese are rarely advised that it is political anyway. vladimir still, with whom, as we know, now, contrary to one well-known saying. if every day
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you say halva, halva halva, then your mouth will still become sweeter. this is how psychosomatics is arranged, therefore, with this document and, possibly, subsequent others, china is preparing not only its audience and not so much its audience, but the whole world for the fact that it is inevitable to remember overtone windows. yesterday. it's impossible, absurd in theory, why not. and tomorrow it will simply be necessary, you just need to throw it in the right time. this is the document that says you need to read it. so everything will be ivan the chinese patient. they endured, they endured a lot, but they are very stubborn and they get their way, so you can be sure that china is the subject of its steps. here is a general unification, again here the question is a time, and it will not be soon. it won't be in the nearest place this year. and as for the efforts made,
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will really make an effort, but will try to try to use different tools. such as a threat of forceful pressure, because this is a serious threat in order to get something from taib from taiwan in a political sense, that is, for china , in fact, a military operation against taiwan is not beneficial for them, a situation in which taiwan is beneficial does not depart from them further, and mine may even approach closer to beijing will be established without the use of military force. actually, in all the last decades. they are this is what they were doing. yes indeed. it was rightly said here, since america is much more tied to the american economy by the chinese to wage such a full-scale economic war, as the collective west goes against russia against china, you will not get it. this is true, but on the other hand, the chinese markets, even to a greater extent than the russian ones, are also tied to america in the strange west and cause significant damage. yes, not the same as russia, but it is significantly detrimental to
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the chinese economy. if desired, the west can, yes, in this sense, the ccp which has its reputation among the chinese people for its level of support is primarily due to the economic situation. uh, gets, that is, the chinese chinese leadership knows that in order to receive this support nationwide they must make people believe that with each new generation. they will live better, and there will be no crimean end to the chinese version. you count in case of merging. china is our candy to china despite the fact that the sanctions, the currency is falling and so on, then there was enthusiasm absolutely, of course, of course. uh, if a successful one is carried out, i emphasized a successful and fairly swift military operation to take reunification with taiwan for a while. it will certainly increase the level of support for the authorities, but significant economic sanctions will simply suppress
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final premiere sunday at 20:20 on ntv bets are made the job market is crowded and inflation is too high. why the russian economy will never be the same external conditions have really changed for a long time, if not forever, will our country return to the soviet planned system will there ever be an end to us hegemony in the world economy the country is the most powerful economy in the world about it right now. this is the meeting place
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on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear, and we continue. well, you probably noticed that at the st. petersburg economic forum all of our speakers have russian speakers who represent business. there is a private business or vice versa, state structures or governments. ah. in general, they all say that it will not be the way it used to be, probably the very first to say this, the head of the central bank elvira, let's listen to her now. it seems to me that everything is clear that still will not be. we repeat it how such a banal phrase will not be the world has changed as before. yes, but something is still the same, and external conditions have really changed for a long time. if not forever, and then we have changed. we, as a country, are currently losing from participation in the international division of labor, because our exports are at a discount. and in these conditions, of course, in my opinion, we need to rethink what we also talked about, but did not promote
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the benefits of exports. it has always been believed that export is such a value in itself. we receive foreign exchange earnings in the country. but if imports are not bought for this export, and if you need to accumulate in assets in risky forms, you need to rethink and finally think about the fact that a significant part of production should work for the domestic market to a greater extent more processing. uh, the creation of the final product, when elvira's phrase was asked by them, that we need to rethink the benefits of exports. that's when you laughed the job needed. this is the situation around ukraine to finally realize. what a huge capacity our domestic market is and how much we are on this topic spoke to her? well, it’s better when does it mean, of course, look, even if you take it according to estimates, but 21 years, which means, uh,
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wholesale retail, our domestic market can be estimated at about 34 trillion rubles, even at the exchange rate e not today’s dollar take the twenty-first year. this is about 500 billion dollars, this is all our exports, of course, they have such colossal opportunities. we have been working for a long time already, working for the domestic consumption of not only goods. i say when consumption i'm talking about industrial consumption, but technological consumption. we've been here for a long time. you are talking about a different , more independent, more modern and more developed economy, of course, no one is saying that it is necessary to completely withdraw from the international division of labor and completely abandon the possibility of international cooperation. but many things we can and should have done for a long time ourselves, using the advantages of our
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material resources, human capital, and whether or not there should be a salad for a long time, but, as always, pogrom not to such an extent as in the well-known anecdote, which means, uh, there is huge export potential and we see how the structure of exports is changing before our eyes, and heat, high-tech exports are growing. the average mechanical engineering is growing , and finally markets are appearing that are ready to buy our mechanical engineering, but at the same time, one must understand that when they say with a roar of the curse of russia a. i was present for the first time in the ninety-first year, when it was announced, we had seeds in the south, we are not saudi we need to see what share of domestic production in the cost
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of oil and gas exports was 40% now 60 and we need to achieve 85 percent of our oil and gas exports are a huge driver of high -tech production. at the expense of it, we created, and pipes of large diameter. yes, not everyone is watching. every time always. we saved production due to this. excuse me, engines, it turns out turbines, rybinsk was saved at the expense of orders from gazprom, we have now created an extract of the drilling rig class. the challenge now is to provide drilling rigs that will provide well fracturing. and it is above this that we have created a unique underwater mining technology. means use here i would add that lensky use all resources for the development of the
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russian economy. there is an export option. but yes, we collect kamaz e in sorry in the soviet channel. uh, we assemble kamaz in vietnam, we assemble kamaz, and in algeria, and so on, and always nabiullina says, because a significant part of our production should work for the domestic market. can't you hear it? well, there is a kind of call not to turn away from the rest of the world, but no, not to isolate, but somehow there’s less communication with them, because many of me why did many many hear? this is a small russian market in order to show what it is in order to have a domestic platform for passenger cars. 300 million people on the market. here's a simple figure for you, less than this market
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will never pay off. here's another, as it were, where the market is. china must be chosen entirely, where in half in half. where the possibility of export. export. exportex. you can here because now, come on, when we succeeded, on the one hand there is really a big market, for example, well, i don’t i know it's small, well, it's small. and why is it small economically in recent years, including one of the factors - this is a huge domestic market, no problem, but this is a colossal injection that should be repaid in a certain amount of time. and if this is only the russian market, no one will make this abs system. why, by the way, putin has been building this entire system in the post-soviet space for a long time, because these are potential markets nabiullina never says, but little animals. here it is not in
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meaning to refuse. after all, she says it, she has been cleared and the opportunities that the market can take advantage of, yes, russia itself does not refuse anything or any sales blinks. this would be contrary to elementary economic logic, russia why nabiullina and other representatives of the economic bloc in russia make such statements comes from the changed economic situation, which is really an economic war against russia from the west, it is obvious that not just western markets are somehow for us closes and will close even more, it is obvious that the western countries, including the americans, will try to do nothing else more, such active work to suppress the possibility of the russian economy in the markets of third countries. the so -called oni people so far they have been very active in this sense in terms of markets for the russian military-industrial complex.
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let's see how they are , let's see how we are, because there is something to remember us, because after mrs. nabiullina's statement, many began to say that they were transitioning whether it was some kind. well, there, so that there was a soviet model, when well, you laugh, by the way, here he himself proposed the return of partial systems, when we provided everything for ourselves, mainly up to a certain point. it was successful, but it all ended, everyone remembers that in the soviet union all resources were distributed by the state, and the country's economy was based on state planning. this is our growth from the twenty-ninth to the fifty- fifth year, it is also a record in our history just in the history of the growth of domestic workers, there are 19-20 and the first 20 years. the twenty-first century and it is a record in the history of the growth of national economies in the world, but from the end of the sixties
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the growth of the soviet economy began to decline and although according to official data in the eighties the ussr was second only to the american economy. the last 10 years of the existence of steel for the country of testing, large spending on the military industry took away the lion's share of the income of the soviet union from the sale of raw materials abroad, in addition to a strong technological lag and problems with household goods, which directly affected the economy. yesterday you were paid conditionally speaking, 100 rubles. for 10 parts. and now the norm is 12, but then in april of each year the prices were reduced, the norm was revised there, let's say. and 20%, and the prices were reduced by three. from this increase in labor productivity, a small part was taken and released to reduce prices, and 80% was taken away for military spending. there for the needs of the state and so
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on, but it was just an e-patagon system. that is, she squeezed all the juices. i'll try to annoy the soviet for a long time the union was helped by high incomes from the sale of oil, however, when world oil prices collapsed in the eighty-sixth year, the country faced a serious crisis, including food in the ninetieth year , food stamps appeared due to a shortage, and in the ninety-first, the threat of hunger loomed the soviet union began to receive foreign humanitarian aid. that's what you haven't heard. and when we showed you a large excerpt from an interview with grigory alekseevich yavsky, professor diskin shouted that this was not true? true or false, but sure it is true that, as he promised us, nikolayevich returned to russia for two weeks, in my opinion, from london. you were right. we admit that you do not lie to us, total means the soviet system of communists. no, they just told us that everything was very good, of course. yes, but it ruined the planned economy or in the planned economy. still, some.
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well, it was a planned economy, of course, one of the big bricks of the destruction of the soviet union, to which it led, and we are inevitable. uh, unfortunately now, if not change, we are moving in this direction, because that returns a very strong participation of the state in the economy. this is always ineffective and if there are questions. is it possible to build an independent economy in russia , but it will not be modern and will lead to the same place where the symbol was shown in the current plot - this is today's st. petersburg economic forum, where the bashkir soda company, which was depressivatized , returned to state property. she organizes her stand for tens of millions of rubles. and what do they advertise food? we now speak, and you are not very audible. and here we hear the breath, i am already in my left hand, of course.
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food progress of modern technology is impossible and such will be the economy, because the modern economic is leds. do not buy, of course, yes, the first to cry out was not true joseph evgeny analysis young now why did the soviet economy collapse, because it ceased to be planned, because it was not possible to withdraw inefficient production from circulation for a long time. wasted resources money to maintain what could no longer be produced by any goods of her memory, the bright yuri vasilyevich eremenko of the great e, the fatherland of economy. this will be well checked by the bureaucratic market. this is a well-known idea of ​​the story question about scheduling. sorry duo. there is an organization that technological
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planning, i think i'm here the only one who crossed her threshold to understand is called darpa. this is a department of the ministry of defense, which is exactly engaged in what technological breakthroughs, but determines determines the parameters gives gives grants sorry good. complementing the accident is a success and your late servant went there, they say it's all fine, but there isn't any. and you only plan these breakthroughs. security
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everyone is telling, not a russian company. i usually dig in, stop now stop. i ask, please, everyone shut up, dear uh, gentlemen liberal uh not liberal don't shout. you start screaming our viewers, they don’t understand anything, but the most interesting thing is that you don’t understand. so it's screaming now. yes, your cries now, what was planned, where breakthroughs of one soda scored companies refer to companies that exist. the united states of america is the department for you about
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an american company that plans breakthroughs. so please shut up, i don't know how to say soda in english. okay, i have a question too. shut up please, a second is important well now the question of the boundaries of planning at one time, when there was a discussion of the five-year plan was a joke, but to bring 5 years yes of each machine. and it was an ideal to which a number of our economists aspired to be absolute nonsense. but i want to give an example. there is also an example of how the largest economic breakthrough was planned, the people's republic of china, where for a long time they were looking for a balance between the independence of enterprises and their commercial success and the definition of national priorities. maybe we live decorative planning,
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thanks to which japan has become a global leader, it is useful to use. wait , let's just a little. let's show a story about the chinese, because such a person today are planned let's look now at a story about the chinese about this wonderful example of them, because it seems like a general opinion that the socialist economy, read planned it is always negative. now here is trying to refute. this is the opinion of our guests, but not everyone is ready to agree with this. show me please. at the end of the fifties , the prc authorities began to implement the policy of a great leap, that is, the transition from the country's agrarian model to the industrial one, millions of peasants were forcibly sent to build factories. because of which the agricultural sector was left without workers in trouble,
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added to the chinese and mother nature, floods and droughts destroyed almost the entire crop in 2 years. as a result, the country found itself in conditions of total famine, at least 15 million people died. between 1966 and 1976, it became a lost decade that threw the country back, putting the prc national economy on the brink of collapse. the country's economy was almost completely destroyed, hundreds of thousands of people were below the poverty line by the end of the seventies after death. mao zedong economics. china was on the brink catastrophe, to improve the situation in the country's government decided to reform a new model of the economy. it was to preserve communism, but to open their market to the rest of the world, then the chinese massively let foreign investment into the country, legalized trade with other countries and began to actively attract modern technologies. as a result, in 1982, china entered the world markets, and after 15 years, the volume
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of foreign trade increased by 17.5 times, and the volume of foreign exchange reserves increased by 170 times. it's an economy that runs on capitalist principles, but very heavily modified very heavily modified offset just this one here. uh, this party system that allows them. uh, some things without waiting for a crisis to come over there. naturally, everything will be destroyed by the way , uh, without waiting for this case. and these with these imbalances to fight so elena well, i want to say. um, actually, firstly, you were outraged about the brick. i heard. and secondly, you said that you had written all this into law a long time ago. there is a collegiation that i prepared and issued and then a presidential decree on basic strategic planning last year, which the security council was preparing, means the invention of a planned
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economy, one of the greatest achievements of the soviet union, which is accepted all over the world, as far as the socialist-revolutionaries are concerned. eh, it was the planning system that helped during that war period to make a colossal breakthrough in the economy of the ussr and in fact. we turned out to be prepared for war, no matter how difficult it was in the forty-first year, but when the factories were evacuated, there were sites in the urals beyond the urals, all engineering communications were already ready. all without roofs, but they were already starting to work, the post-war period. the unprecedented pace of recovery is also a planned economy. which that allows it allows you to concentrate all types of resources and only finances all types of resources in strategic areas, strictly monitor the implementation and achieve the intended goals of the results. this experience is absolutely clearly involved everywhere. we are now out of this experience. we can put something into
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practice. from this experience we should have long put into practice, when it came out in 2014 . here i would say the federal strategic planning law. since there is a presidential decree, but, unfortunately, we have so much. while you are still stalking our brainwashed western economies, all the time ending that we are still poorly adjusted to the system, we begin to resent when the american one comes for such a short pause. i want you to kill one person, even at any moment.
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now then osteo will be yours for only 4.000 999 rubles. call by phone or order on our website leomax.ru. this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. we continue what is now a pause shouting the economy must be frugal i say everything that you remember from soviet times. let's take her and vladimirovich in terms of a special difference. no, a smooth economy is not a smooth economy. today is the most important thing . on what technological basis will this economy develop, and now, from my point of view, the most dangerous thing for russia is cutting us off from modern technologies in all areas, from computers to shane’s oil and gas production technologies and so on, it turns out that his
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sergeevich and here in this issue we can not plan. something to you now a few minutes ago i was talking about our technologies , about the fact that not a single one succeeds. taxes, from which we could be cut off, because the soviet company please forgive me yes and now, sorry your whole project, yes, and it is shifted by eight months. it's not a completely different story. do not cry. all this is wrong, really. why because there is a russian company surgutneftegaz that initially worked only on domestic technologies. i want to remind you that her and here are the deposits. she has
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more money than she's worth on the market. give it back. himself their successful companies are now about to cut off. just yesterday, just yesterday , the prc went to russia. we will help russia with spare parts for the aircraft, they used to say, no, we will not violate sanctions after a political decision, a similar situation. uh, sorry since then. what do you think that china since because you want to say that the chinese ambassador is 100% a figure, there is a famous james bond film being made on his own when his intelligence general awards the order of lenin to the rescue of silicone valley general. pushkin yes. yes, he says, and where are you going to steal our technology then, that's why this issue since money was invented, nobody
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can be cut off from technology. that is very difficult to cover with technology. i'm not saying how to steal technology with such a big word, but remember recently we discovered such a concept as parallel imports, which means a situation where you need to save all means well so that they are legal. if you join us. i 'll explain what i mean by telling in today's world it's easier to get technology than it was 20 years ago, taking into account the digitalization of communication, other things, and money, so most of the technologies. they will be available to us, if not in this way, then in what way. sorry terrible and the secret of the golden key for those who do not understand economics in anything, but, well, usually for people who live in mythological constructions in the soviet
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period and in general about the planned economy and o planning in general planning is carried out by any country in the world. even the organizers of the federal budget, for example, the budget, especially for 3 years. yes, this is planning any national project, where is the event. and there are indicators. this planning has just given you an example. sallations a lot, well, you see the difference between the two, but wait, don't tell me the basics, yes, yes, wait for the private business. what is movement? just from when you try to
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tell, i have an offer, my friends. eh, so i'm just saving my throat. i'm not going to yell and turn it all into moisture. so, here, if when such a moment arises. both are out of touch. with all due respect, antonch, there's some good news. here no, he wants to judge the bad news, these are two different concepts. the soviet planned economy is a story about how the state, in fact, controlled the vast majority of enterprises in the ussr on the territory of the country in private ownership there was very, very little shoemaker there. he could be individual, so to speak, as in our time he was called there, he paid taxes. there is someone else, uh, sewing something like that, and
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they were there, of course, in private property. there was a vegetable garden to its private. actually. yes, it was the personal property of any enterprise from a toy factory to transport companies that operated some e on the bus to a kindergarten to everything. it was public, there were no unfortunate schools, no unfortunate companies, no private factories, and this system is valid. i will now explain here in general, here it is ineffective, but, but it was effective at a certain time. here elena vladimirovna is correct. she said such a system is not necessarily just such it can be, a mixed system of a mixed economy. it maybe all in those times when it is necessary to mobilize society, and by the way, now we also live in such times when it may be necessary to mobilize society. this does not mean that we will switch over to the soviet planned system. but what is quite here, perhaps, we are now, yes, that level of planning for the participation of a state corporation in, uh,
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the structure of the russian economic structure. we are already, in fact, in such a mixed type of economy, most likely, there will really be a more mobilization model of this mixed economy. no one is going to nationalize all enterprises and all companies in russia, no one has such plans at all, no one is going to do the whole world. well, could there be more? could a more significant involvement be required? the state and state directing bodies in the management of the russian economy are quite possible and even probable, because the situation in our country is an international phytocomplicated one. it is impossible to pretend that the economic war that has been declared to us, that it is not there can not be pretended that that the struggle for markets will intensify competition. then. let's get back to what this piece started with, when the nabiulli thought they listened, she said that you need to understand that everything has changed. eh, the way it used to be will not be, maybe it will
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never be. uh-huh this is how we understand that such a situation really, maybe forever, that we are doomed, er, many, many years to come, to live in conditions. when we hmm well , first of all, we'll have to rely on myself. we will all put sticks in the wheels. how will it be will i wouldn't call it i didn't want to say u use the word forever, but what is it that yes i we look at historically that such situations, but not forever. and can it be, uh, quite a lot of years, perhaps, and i will even repeat. well, in fact , here we are talking about planning, you understand how both theory and plan are good, but practice breaks down. actually happens every day. in the end. we are talking about the soviet in our hands. just the soviet union we say the word soviet union yes after all no one, except for a couple of people who have such a specific way of thinking, no one expected that the soviet union would go as fast
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as it collapsed, that the cold war would end, so when we talk about some big such global shifts that now we really see. we are in this process. we can’t look from the outside, i don’t know from mars and how it all can develop, therefore, in this case, to say that a nothing will be the same as it was before, in principle, is quite a banality, because in one river you can't log in twice. yes, that is, as if nothing happened. we also said that this year is not the same as the last. in this sense, for a second. look, and again , we are returning to what was said today , no one could. there is no way to predict and so on. here was a chinese example, which seems to refute. e is the opinion that a socialist planned economy is always bad, because we were told all the nineties. there is a market economy. and that's always good. here, look at the united states of america everything is fine there dollar and in africa dollars and so on. let's see. last wednesday , the us federal reserve for the first time in
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three decades raised the key rate by almost a percentage at once, so the us authorities are trying to contain the frenzied inflation, which broke a forty-year record. ieta manstein. we are determined to bring inflation down. and we are doing everything for this, the current picture is obvious, the labor market is overcrowded, and inflation. too high president, biden all economic problems associated with ukraine supposedly. record inflation is a retribution for helping kiev, the head of the white house said that his administration is working on a plan to save the economy and ordinary americans do not have to worry. the bottom line is that we will live with this inflation for some time, it will gradually decrease, but we will live with it for some time ordinary americans should not worry about rising prices, including for food and essentials, since the us is the fastest growing economy in the world. undermine
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the economic stability of the united states can also be abandoned by the dollar in the calculations for energy resources back in march. it is known that saudi arabia is discussing with china the possibility of selling oil for yuan. such a scheme is already working in settlements with russia. and this week, bloomberg reported that india asked moscow to sell oil to it for rupees. all this , experts believe, could lead to the end of the world to the haemonia of dollars, despite the fact that the status of such a world reserve currency as dollar is an important element of the global the dominance of the united states in the medium term will not change fragmentation at a lower level certainly. it is quite possible that this will lead to some trends, as well as to the fact that other currencies will play a more significant role as reserves, we do not want to say that america is doomed. now it's falling apart and that's it. we are simply talking about the fact that there was a system that worked for years, maybe decades, not bad. they work, but then something. it happens, it starts to fail. this
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system is antonch, here, i did not have time to finish us when i said that all countries are planning all countries are planning. there are two points. the first point is the depth of this planning. that is. well, just as far as the state goes into its own, the united states is also a planned economy. they also plan it's a myth that they don't plan anything by themselves. there is no earing and there is no change in the rate - this is all interference in the state regulation of the economy. and this is a normal phenomenon absolutely china by the way, socialist planned china is market planned economy in the first place, because market instruments work second moment. everything was discussed with a colleague. he quite rightly noted, and the whole difference lies in goal-setting. where these goals come from, they are based on analysis and the need that they can be realized, or they are political decisions, loud statements. here. the problem with the soviet
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planned economy of the second half, er, this one is political decisions, untethered from reality and voluntarism. they have problems with me planning more than that, me it seems that if in the soviet union there were such technological possibilities from the point of view of computer processing, programming of data processing, then maybe some things on the planet would be easier, because there were too many. but if i argue, so the first e about america was such a great administrator, robert mcmar, who created a unique system of planning ppb, which, i apologize, reached every department of the united states and determined the parameters and requirements for the structure and purchases and regulated the market accordingly, as soon as they disappear and were. uh, this is uh, 63. sixty-fifth year, so this is the system? well
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, at the moment when the bureaucracy decided that it was very uncomfortable to eat in such a rigid system. they were engaged in 15 years of curtailing this system; they planned the first question in planning methods and the question in that one. to what extent the political system provides support for this planning system and the question of purpose is now a question, but by the united states. and you have to understand that it is they who have flown in. you are absolutely for ideological reasons, im it was necessary, rather, to provide the pour, where they are really the most dynamic economy in terms of pace, just the national debt. yes, this is absolutely a record a record and you had to pay your own to him or to sprinkled with ashes no
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no no no no head without powerful ones in turn. start again the crisis from which the socio-political foundations of the united states will shake monetary economy, that you can print money without restrictions, but clean for anyone, if i remember that i am a doctor of economics . but this is pure horror. these are the ones who believe that a progressive theory is needed. and who demands the introduction of unique methods of support, and gender elimination. gender family, some kind of relationship concerns the economy. uh huh, gigantic budget
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spending going on the united states has run a gigantic budget deficit for a huge amount of time, which was financed by the growth of the national debt today after the decision of the fed, servicing the national debt of the united states became the second item of budget expenditures. this is what it has to do in order to at least somehow hold out in the elections. america will have to once again arrange a shower so that i just mix some different different stories here, some genders , some minorities and the economy. well, i think it's on the minority footing, but that's where the minimum share of the american budget is spent. what about? look at the article here. how many percent well, there is a budget code of the united states money you live, and there
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budget items, respectively, of billions of dollars is already a gigantic amount; the question is no longer in percentage terms. it's very easy to understand, we talked about it in one of the programs. it's just, maybe you weren't there, because uh. that's a huge leap. actually market budget for gays. everything is needed. eh, everything. everything that is for ordinary people, but for gays. that is, it is, in principle, twice the size of the economy. stanislav is easier. you seem to have so effectively scolded the story with other politicians ahead of the economy. and this problem. o what makes it easier for you. now very detailed practically goes. excuse us , the police are coming along with the economy. we have. sorry professional budget. just yesterday, the finance minister announced two trillion.
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rubles of extra money what to talk about? alexander yes? yes, i was lucky, but i would still like to return to our country, because the main question that has now been raised in this studio is and in general, people are worried. how the russian economy will develop, if not forever, then at least in the coming years, visibility, so that we can live, yes, to the children of grandchildren, so i honestly admit. i am not an economist. i'm listening to you all carefully. all great economists. i drew attention and would like to draw your attention to, and recently, the statements of first deputy prime minister belousov andrey revich, who suggested that the development of the economy can theoretically go in the direction of non-isolation economic development. the economy is on the path of reforms and situational development of the economy. i briefly here are the most mobilization in general view. not well undesirable uh, economic development economy.
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feed also e requires a lot of consent, in society society is not ready for reforms. the more i agree. i am a candidate, so i still waited for my economic no, of course, yes, so, here, but the situational economy is considered, well, it has shown its effectiveness as a laggard, not only now, but during the pandemic, the whole economy is off the wheel economy according to the development of the situation, look, as we are talking really 3 years ahead, not 30 and not 50, and so the last thing, as far as there is already talked about america so only here is america so all the attention. let's. now you are interrupted. this concludes our issue of today's long-distance live broadcast of the ntv television company, the speech of russian president vladimir putin at the st. petersburg international economic forum.
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good afternoon, it's almost evening. you already know that there were minor technical problems, thank god they were quickly resolved. thank you to everyone who took care of them so quickly . thanks to those present. thanks to our leader leader vladimir vladimirovich for taking the time, as always, to speak at forum and tell what awaits us from an economic point of view, not only from an economic point of view. thank you oblique zhamarkemelevich for finding the opportunity to come to us, we understand that this is not so. just. thank you for your support of our forum and our country. we really appreciate it. we have questions ahead of us, not all of them you will like to hear, and not
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all of them i will like to ask. but in general, we are probably happy to talk only about the good, but only the good will not work. until then i ask you vladimir vladimirovich petru and tell us what awaits us all thank you very much, dear ksmeilevich, dear friends of colleagues i greet the participants and guests of the 25th anniversary st. petersburg international economic forum. it is taking place at a difficult time for the entire world community , when the economy, markets, and the very principles of the global economic system have come under attack, many trade and production logistics links previously disrupted by the pandemic are passing. now through new test moreover such key for
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business concepts, like the business reputation of the inviolability of property and trust in world currencies, are fundamentally undermined. unfortunately, our partners in the west did this intentionally for the sake of ambition, in the name of preserving outdated geopolitical illusions. today i will state ours, when i say ours, i mean the russian leadership, their view of the situation, which turned out to be a global economy, in detail, i will dwell on how russia operates in these conditions and how they plan their development in a dynamically changing environment. year and a half ago speaking at the davos forum, it was again emphasized that the fluff of the unipolar world order was over. i want to start with this without it, there's nowhere to go. despite
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the end, despite all attempts to preserve it, conserve it by any means. this is a natural course of change - this is the natural course of history, since the civilizational diversity of the planet, the richness of cultures, is difficult to combine with political, economic and other patterns. templates. templates do not work here, which are roughly imposed without alternative from one center, the flaw is inherent in the very idea, according to which there is one. let it be a strong power with a limited circle of associates, or as they say, states are allowed to it and all the rules of business and international relations, when it becomes necessary. it is interpreted solely in the interests of this power, what is called working in one direction, the game goes in one gate, the united
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states is definitely unstable in the victory in the cold war. well, they announced themselves. messengers of the lord on earth, who have no obligations, but only interests. and these interests declared sacred. they don't seem to notice. that over the past decade , new powerful centers have been formed on the planet and are louder and louder declaring themselves, each of them is developing its own political systems and public institutions are implementing their own models of economic growth. and, of course, he has the right to protect them to ensure national sovereignty, we are talking about objective processes, and truly revolutionary tectonic changes in his policy on the global economy in the technological field. throughout the system international relations, where the role of dynamically promising
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states of the regions is significantly increasing, interests that can no longer be ignored. i repeat these changes are of a fundamental turning and inexorable nature and it is a mistake to believe that the time of turbulent changes can be, what is called to sit out to wait out that supposedly everything will return to normal everything will be the same as before . however, it seems that the ruling elites of some western states are just in such illusions that they do not want to notice obvious things, but stubbornly cling to behind the shadows of the past, for example, they believe that the dominance of the west in global politics and economics is an unchanging, eternal , nothing can be eternal. and our colleagues. they simply deny reality. they try to counteract the course of history, they think in terms of the last century, they are in captivity of their own delusions, and countries outside the so-called golden billion
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consider everything else on the periphery to be their backyard , still treats them like colonies. and the peoples living there consider people of the second quarrel, because they themselves read themselves exceptional, if they are exceptional, then all the rest are second-rate hence the irrepressible desire to punish economically crush those who stand out from their general ranks; they do n’t want to obey; moreover, they are rude shamelessly enjoying their ethics of looking at culture and understanding of history, and sometimes question sovereignty and the integrity of the state threatens their existence. suffice it to recall the fate of yugoslavia and iraq. if a rebel cannot be pacified, then they try to isolate him or say cancel. the entrance is coming, everything even sports,
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the olympic movement, forbidden culture , masterpieces of art, for the sole reason that their authors are of the wrong origin in this nature and the current attack of russophobia in the west and insane sanctions against russia are insane and i would say mindlessly their number, as well as the speed of stamping do not know precedents, the calculation was clear with impudence. how much will the russian economy crush due to the destruction of the business of the kidneys of the forced recall of western companies from the russian market for freezing domestic assets to hit industry financial in terms of people's living standards. did not work out. it is obvious that this did not work out, the russian entrepreneurs of the authorities did not take place, the citizens worked together professionally, the cohesion and responsibility of the mice showed up, we are gradually normalizing the economic situation, at the
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beginning we stabilized the financial markets, the banking system and the trading network, then we began to saturate the economy with liquidity and working capital. in order to maintain the stability of the company's enterprise employment and jobs, marriage forecasts regarding prospects for the russian economy, which sounded back in early spring. at the same time, they did not come true clearly. why was this propaganda campaign inflated. where did all these spells come from and about a dollar for 200 rubles. and about the collapse of our economy. in general, all this was and remains an instrument of information warfare. by the way, some of our experts also succumbed to such external pressure as a factor of psychological impact on russian society on domestic business circles. in their forecasts, they also proceeded from the inevitable collapse of the russian economy and critical weakening of the national currency. ruble life has eaten so similar predictions. however,
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i emphasized and would like to note in order to continue to achieve success. we must be extremely honest and realistic in assessing the situation , while being independent in our conclusions. and, of course, believe in yourself. this is very important, we are strong people and we can cope with any challenge, as our ancestors will solve any problem, they say about it, the entire thousand-year history of our country literally 3 months after the massive one. literally later 3 months after the massive package of sanctions , we suppressed the inflation surge after the peak of 17 and 80% as you know, now inflation is 16.70%. and the economic dynamics continues to decline, the public finances are stable. uh, i
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'll do a comparison with other regions later. yes, and this is too much for us, of course, 16.7% high inflation. we must work with this and we will do it, and i am sure we will achieve a positive result in the first five months of this year. the federal budget turned a profit and a half trillion rubles, and the consolidated budget with a surplus of 3.3 trillion rubles, while the federal budget surplus. only in may amounted to almost half a trillion rubles when sowing, last year's may value more than four times. today, our task is to create conditions for increasing production to increase supply in the domestic market and, in a balanced way with the increase in supply , restore final demand and bank lending to the economy. already said, we have taken special measures to replenish the working capital of the company, including
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business in almost all industries, it has received the right to defer insurance premiums for the second quarter of this year, while manufacturing enterprises have more opportunities. they will be able to take advantage of the deferral in the third quarter, in fact, we are talking about an interest-free loan from the state in the future, deferred payments on insurance premiums will not need to be paid, what is called at once, this can be done in equal installments within 12 months, starting from june next year . next since may has been reduced subsidized mortgage rate. now it is 9%. at the same time, the preferential mortgage program itself has been extended until the end of this year, as already mentioned, the purpose of such a measure is to help citizens in solving housing problems to support the construction and related industries. and uh, millions
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of workers are employed there after a sharp increase in spring interest rates in the russian economy are gradually lowering the central bank is lowering the key rate in this regard, i think it is possible to lower the rate on subsidized mortgages again. now up to 7%, well, what would you like please note that the duration of the program remains the same until the end of the current year. this means that those of our citizens who want to improve their living conditions. this benefit should be used before the end of this year, the maximum amount of loans also remains 12 million rubles. for moscow and st. petersburg and 6 million rubles. for other subjects of the federation, i would add that it is important for us in general to increase the availability of long-term financial resources loans for the economy in the
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near future, the emphasis in supporting business activity should shift to the budget incentives to market mechanisms. bank lending, this process must certainly be supported so as to increase the capacity and project financing factory of 120 billion rubles. from the sovereign wealth fund, such a measure provides additional lending to demanded project initiatives. dear colleagues have already said that the economic blitzkrieg against russia initially had no chance of success with this sanctions weapon. it is known, and the practice of recent years - it shows well, it is mutually acute. it wears. comparable, and even more damage is inflicted by the ideologists themselves and
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its designer, and it is not only about the current obvious consequences for us. it is known that among the leaders of european countries, at the level of informal conversations, what is called furtively discussed is very disturbing and the prospects that sanctions can be applied not only against russia but also against any objectionable state sooner or later can affect everyone, including the members of the european union and european companies until it came to this, but european politicians have already dealt their economies, a serious blow they themselves did it with their own hands. we see how the social and economic problems have worsened in europe and the united states too. how the cost of food products , electricity and automobile fuel is growing, how the quality of life of europeans is declining and the competitiveness of the enterprise is being lost. according to experts, only the direct even-numbered losses of the
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eu sanctions fever over the coming year may exceed $400 billion . such is the price of a decision divorced from real and accepted contrary to common sense. this cost is directly borne by the population and companies of the european union, the increase in inflation. in selected countries, the eurozone. already over 20%. here, i was talking about our inflation, but strangely the eurozone does not conduct any special military operations. and inflation is up to twenty percent, and grants are even unpleasantly unacceptable, the highest in the last 40 years. yes, of course , inflation in russia is also still at double-digit levels. however, we have already indexed social payments and pensions they raised the minimum wage and the cost of
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living, thereby protecting the least well-to-do citizens, and in turn, high interest rates made it possible to save people's savings in the russian banking system, of course, for business representatives. it is understandable that the high key rate is pressing down on the economy. understandable to citizens. still, in most cases. that's a plus they keep. they returned a significant amount of money in the bank at a high interest rate. and this is the main difference from the countries of the european union, where the growth of inflation directly leads to a decrease in the real incomes of the population and eats up their savings, and the current crisis phenomena fall first of all on low-income citizens. serious long-term consequences also have an increase in the costs of european companies losing the name of the russian market, the result here is an obvious loss of global competitiveness and a systemic slowdown in the growth rate of the european economy. and for years to come. all this leads to an aggravation
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of deep problems in western societies. yes , of course, we have enough problems of our own, but we are forced to talk about it now, because they keep their fingers on us all the time. and they have enough problems themselves. i also spoke about this in the dowse, a direct consequence of the actions of european politicians and the events of the current year will be a further aggravation of inequality in these countries, which in turn will further split their society, and the question is not only in the level of well-being, but also in the values ​​of the reference points of various groups this society. yes, now these contradictions are suppressing democratic procedures being swept under the carpet.

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