tv Mesto vstrechi NTV June 24, 2022 2:00pm-4:01pm MSK
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this is a victory for people, we have been waiting for this for 120 days, as membership in ukraine and georgia quarreled, he demanded that georgia not become. for what? kiev to go to get the status of a candidate for the eu and as far as moldova is ready to go to the slaughter. first you need to do your homework about this today in our program. hello, is this the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear? i'm andrey norkin. my colleague is ivan trushkin. we are working live. andrey vladimirovich congratulated you on his holiday. yes you drank champagne. zaya i, and now i said that i drank you open it. yes? you just mentally i did not even congratulate. i noticed. as you said. you said it was a holiday, but the fact is that the day before the european union, uh, granted to the two
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parties. but this is the very membership in the new members , remember, yes, with the light hand of our adored colleagues and glad zeynalov and this phrase. here, russian foreign minister sergei lavrov turned it into a popular expression, which means that moldova and ukraine are now candidates, and for entry into the european union, both sides were delighted , moldova was so delighted that they even said that they were ready to join the anti-russian sanctions, but more on that later. i think the money is in 30. let's start with ukraine, because ukraine very skillfully and quickly turns any event into such a bright farce. uh, what happened the ukrainians quarreled with the georgians once again rolled georgia, although, georgia has long been standing in line for this membership . well, in general, georgia was not given such an opportunity by the georgians, but they were offended by the ukrainians, which they say that the ukrainians supposedly persuaded the europeans, so the ukrainians close the door to the georgians and so
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on, they were offended by the georgians, we say nothing of the sort. well, in general, yes. let's see. well , putin again outplayed all of ukraine, a candidate for eu membership, and as he would say, marshak doesn’t do anything, a fool, he does everything wrong. we are waiting for membership in nato, i shake hands, i hug even before last week . it is known that georgia, unlike ukraine and moldova, will not be given the status of a candidate, they say the country still needs to work hard on itself for tbilisi the european union's rejection came as an unpleasant surprise after 30 years of being so far behind the two countries in our partners and friends, our fault. but most importantly, europe has not abandoned us and has not abandoned us against this background. the opposition has become more active in georgia. she blames the current authorities. in the failure of european integration in front of the parliament building, tens of thousands of those who disagreed sang the european anthem, chanted slogans home to europe and demanded the resignation of the government. let's go
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to save the day prime minister of the republic hurried shift the blame to ukraine and the head of the ruling verkhovna rada faction, the servant of the people, david arakhi, who allegedly persuaded western partners not to accept georgia into the european union . he practically put forward an ultimatum in europe that if georgia received the status of a candidate, they would be very upset, and a few days ago they went too far, he said, that they do not envy the participation of ukraine and moldova, they say in the eu they are taken out of pity. this means that things are not so bad in georgia, european colleagues told me and i said openly that ukraine is given this status because it is at war, national leaders confirm this fact, that
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this is a decision? it was accepted because ukraine is at war and in personal conversations. it was said to me that moldova is also in a difficult situation in kiev at the words of the georgian prime minister, offended by rachamia, accused the georgians of replicating fakes. we, as ukraine, as the authorities in ukraine, will help georgia to become a member of the european union as much as possible and, please, do not pay attention to frank stuffing and fakes of the georgian government. particularly the prime minister. so let's first analyze this ukrainian-georgian conflict, and then we'll watch the holiday in kiev. and what does georgia not deserve? here is from the new star of the european flag. why are there two two points? the first point is related to the fact that this is the application that is being loaded, so to speak, it has now been confirmed. the document that was submitted to georgia does not really satisfy the european union in many respects, this is true according to the legislation. right in
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addition, there were a lot of human rights issues on which the european union already, uh, ukrainians, respectively, everything is fine there from this point of view. yes, of course it's better. which means, uh. if we take the criterion regarding this conflict, yes, it really was, because, but the main main argument of ukraine, uh, within the framework of the european commission, when we talk about the european union , it was that georgia refused to join the sanctions against russia, too, refused to join today, therefore, for a moment. e discussions to give, too, were not involved, so to speak, she did it consistently, moldova huddled all the time there, referring to her , so to speak, ukrainians. really offended by the georgian visa, because they believe that they have always supported, please, then technology. and what right does the country have? that's just the server
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dec. so what kind of voting power do they mean, to offer someone there to punish, who also apply. they decide what. clearly not. it’s just that this opinion of ukraine, of course, was taken into account and left in the european commission, of course, as a candidate for membership, its opinion regarding who to be a candidate and take into account. it is ukraine today that these classic traditional mechanisms cannot be applied to ukraine today. uh, acceptance into the european union and accounting. like it's just some kind of fantasy. this ukraine can get a small discount. yes , a small discount. from these negotiations. yes, but for sure they can't be there on whispers to someone in a bar, not to receive, but a candidate's application, and georgia yes, it's somehow. well, yes, that is, there are threats,
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which i, of course, love very much, but there are very significant problems in the field, that is, in human rights and the rule of law and corruption. let me spend one more brush with the diagnosis of ukraine just listed about the rule of law, where is the national security council. you understand the sanctions against your own citizens about corruption. i am silent. i warn you know why, by the way, do not take in candidates for north macedonia? why because the claims to the history there are topics in relation to north macedonia, which sounds again against the background of russia ukraine is a little bit of cotton wool, so, but nevertheless, the european union of ukraine the european union candidate member of the eu by the way, a status that does not oblige to accept the list yes turkey is 23 years old. yes, soon a
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quarter of a century, from where he is already a candidate and fine. it is clear to all current members of the european union that in the coming years and probably even in the coming decades, ukraine will become part of the european court, moreover, as i said here, swear, wait. now we can also listen to look here in a few years and in general, will it be the state that it is now, which in fact, if we speak seriously, gives the status of an eu candidate for ukraine nothing but a number of conditions that are put forward for so that this state could explain to its population there, let's say, that it is moving forward. well then this i would not say that this is nothing, because it turns out that this is a kind of incentive for the state to work. it got better all sorts of shortcomings at the beginning of the transfer, so ukraine and moldova were accepted as candidates. all of them are simply, because these countries are now either in or preparing for a state of conflict with russia. so
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, just for the sake of this, everything else had to be done. this is in 2008. no, the georgians did not guess, they do not want to enter into a conflict. they just already have certain phantom pain on the subject, but enter into conflict. they don't want to. therefore, now, uh, ms. sandu has declared that she is ready for any political actions regarding the ukrainians. that's all the same, besides the fact that peter poroshenko happily quotes marshak there, apparently, he did not find anyone to quote ukrainian poets. yes, there zelensky made a new statement. further, what is real is not my opinion. it's like an expert opinion. it says that now the candidate is with a man and eats necessary for the ukrainian authorities, like doping, which that's how the drug that they are, that's all the candidate, it's dope can cross the border. and it's just that
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you're a candidate. ivan sergeevich information once, under poroshenko, we opened the door for the population to flow in these crowds of georgians, who are european with them. this is the same thing that happened in the fourteenth year in ukraine, here they ask a young man, that is, why are you for the association? well, how are we going to travel around europe , so nothing is said about it there. well, as you say, it is said. we will have european pensions there will be no corruption, there will be european roads. this is mythology. here's the mythology. now they have passed the most powerful stimulus, the most powerful dope, and now zelensky will be able to present it to the elites. if he populates all this as his greatest success. you know this event. i think that this is the most joyful day for georgians for the georgian people. why because it means that georgian blood is not planned to be spilled in the near future? georgians will not be thrown into the furnace of war, at least not yet. but the moldovans, apparently in
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this furnace of war will be abandoned, otherwise they would not have been given this, uh, hmm candidate status, well, your work by the ukrainians - this means that the plan to fight russia to the last ukrainian will be implemented consistently and rigorously, because it was done. this is only with one goal to stimulate the war against russia, there is no other goal . and this is where we hear a lot. what elites degenerated in the west, there is something else, how they all do not understand anything. and notice how they famously work, if the last few centuries of data naturally, they climbed with machines with spears and others and got mostly in the brain. that last 10-15-20 years they decided, otherwise they let the golden donkey in. first, they launched it in poland and really paid. here we buy you. uh, we're flooding you with money. just
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be ours and everyone else. they do n't even give gold anymore. they send a donkey loaded with the promise of gold. see. we made the poles rich. now, if you are under us, then maybe we will do the same to you, while they don’t give you anything, romania bulgaria, they both were beggars and became. by the way, they have become more impoverished than they were under soviet control, however, and now this is being implemented in ukraine, so in order to stimulate the project, they actually did remember the association, that's the mark of the association. and why yes, because people were inspired by ten. they did not inspire the european union - this is the ideal of salvation from all problems. and the worse life is in certain territories, the more important this is the hope that it will come to the european union and
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save you. i'm more in my fourteenth year february. uh, in ukraine, when the maidan was going on, uh-huh, a small town, a small town, completely impoverished, mostly beaten, killed zhiguli drive, i don’t know how they are patched, and almost every one of them had an eu flag why are they not all like that , they were the same expectations, what are the roads right away, but the feeling of involvement in all this collapse is one hope, europe will come and we will have someone there president order. i get it, so they work great. you said that ukraine is a big problem for the eu. why take that's the ideology? yes, because, well, like races in the european union yes, because we will immediately listen to ukrainian voices, not everyone is comfortable in the european union yes, this is a big country big subsidies and so on and so forth, so imagine that we want to absorb ukraine because because, because, so that we have, i
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understand, it’s all the same today and in general, if membership, for now, does not give any bonuses, except for feelings of belonging and the opportunity to put a european flag next to your flag, but at the same time, the ukrainian authorities had to do certain things, promise to do very soon. let us here are these promises that ukraine must keep. and if it does not hold back, again, as the press writes, the status of members can be withdrawn by members. here, let me list the promises to you, writes one of the unspoken conditions of the kiev candidate for the eu was the agreement with moscow on the export of grain from the territory of ukraine just the day before turkey confirmed that meetings on this topic should be held in ankara. the diplomatic efforts of president recep taip erdogan to resolve the food crisis and the line of diplomacy pursued by the minister of national defense hulusi akar began to give positive results. it is known that an agreement has been reached on the need for negotiations between turkey and russia, ukraine and the un
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to solve the problem, one more requirement of the eu is a change in legislation. telstva and for the sake of the cherished status is ready to become more tolerant. well, or splurge last tuesday, the verkhovna rada ratified the istanbul convention, designed to protect the rights of people, regardless of their sexual orientation the rights and freedoms of every person are one of the basic values of the european union. and today, an important bill is being considered in this hall that will strengthen the voice of ukraine in europe well, and, perhaps, the main condition for getting closer to the european dream of fighting oligarchs and corruption, this requirement has been heard for a long time, but now brussels is supposedly waiting for decisive steps. however, the american press advises not to hope much from kiev. whatever the sympathy for ukraine in europe, no one refuses sent an introduction, including anti- corruption for ukraine, a pluralistic democracy with tough politics and an excessive role of the business elite, known as oligarchs, fulfilling the requirements will be difficult andrey nikolaevich
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ukrainian authorities against corruption are bees against honey, how are they going ? join or it's all on paper, some demands that will never be fulfilled if we are talking about an association and a plan for further action. if you now climbed papers 14-15 year, you saw that many of the points that are now put forward as conditions for them. by the way, including on the lgbt theme, they were put forward then, but to legalize civil partnerships for homosexuals. they should have been according to this plan, in my opinion, later we will come to this, if in general, if figuratively, if you speak figuratively, you understand, if you fatten a piglet, and you gave him a passport of a certain citizen. this does not mean that kitten, you will not slaughter, you understand, the little pig will slaughter , because you understand, this one promise promise. well, yes, this is a kind of incentive , you know, and for well, what is someone really? yes , even let's imagine for a second that they are taking this tomorrow to ukraine tomorrow, this is
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in addition to an absolute headache. and if it does not give anything, as well as for ukraine, because no one can express themselves. wait, there will be no additional highlighting here in connection. do you understand? there won't be one problem. i'm trying, but i would say here, here they talked about doping, you know, here, uh, who betray someone's strength there. you know it can give strength there to a zelensky man sitting in lvov in kiev a man who is caught and driven to the front line. they don't sell anything anymore. so even this incentive is. it seems to me that a very false and dubious story is absolutely you explain to me for sure. and why does europe need this, this is not some kind of altruism. let's support the country there. and first of all, about the istanbul convention in the istanbul correction, you all want to talk about combat. she has no relation and is full of others, so i i'm talking about the istanbul convention,
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we'll talk about it a little later. so the first thing to remember is that ukraine is a country with a population of 40-40 million people, this is a huge and this is a huge time. secondly, which means that it is a large country with large reserves of raw materials. not only is it already clear to read. but no. well, because it is much easier, because in the seventeenth eu it is also a free market. this is a free market from much, so to speak , political factors, what igor sergeevich spoke about when he said that all sorts of romania became much poorer to join, by the way, i would not say according to the data after steam data and bulgaria and romania the rich have become much earlier in the last 10 years. yes, yes, in terms of living standards. yes stood up was raised their standard of living. so you want to say that their standard of living is comparable to how it was, if you take no that they were in the same place. so, as
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far as this whole thing is concerned, it means that all we are talking about is the adoption of eight laws in ukraine and now we are on this wave. i agree. yes , that's how the eighth sign in russia corruption they win for 300 years, nothing happens, therefore, in general, in all countries it wins. here are but those eight laws that they have to adopt, they will adopt very quickly guys. believe me, now on this wave of the verkhovna rada for 15 years. yes , they tell you, the czech republic has been working for 15 years, this is another matter. it's different in ukraine right now, just on this wave , the possibility of adopting these laws quickly. why don't you answer the question? the only thing? it can be arranged as an answer. this is the second point in your speech, that ukraine is a country rich in resources. why does the european union need to speed up this procedure so much, why did they start it? only after all, it's now sitting and saying that for what 15 years it won't
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take. with the same czech, quickly do that after 34 years they are judging. here, explain to me in europe why this is savva. tell me why you need me not to return your life, because alexander nikolayevich. it is certainly a decision primarily political and is connected with the situation that ukraine finds itself in. do not be. eh, here are all these operations. i think the status would still uh continued to be discussed after the decision what's the difference? what are the advantages for europeans. um, well, on the other hand, it's a belated decision, because at least a year will pass before the admission. this is in any case, and now, and in what form ukraine will be in a year, what will remain of it and who will be there, but uh, this is currently unknown. here's what it's for, but from my point of view. i have
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spoken about this many times. this is a step. e to join nato and to associate completely with the western bloc, first of all, then turkey was already a member nato is not a member of the european union at first, then you go to nato in case this is exactly what we are talking about , yes, at the forum i said that we are not against ukraine's entry into the euro, or it was repeated before. how long is the question again in uh timeliness, a and b itself, the political decision will be made or will not be taken now is possible from my point of view. come on, andrei vladimirovich, comrades. yes. you have to say ukraine is the first place in terms of proven recoverable reserves in different hands. yes no i understand, yes, second place, yes, second place in terms of reserves of
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manganese rues. yes, it means the second largest iron ore reserves in the world. yes, the second place in europe in terms of reserves e mouth, that is, europe wants to take it all seriously . will take away these resources how to react. andre, moreover, it is correctly said, which means that there e macron said yesterday, after all, a symbolic gesture. and what is the meaning of the meaning of the statement in the end with the fact that the european union claims a piece of ukraine this is a story about a big division. you too want to get. we will not give russia everything we want a part from ukraine, that's what it is actually directly. yes, i can understand why it is in such a hurry to do, of course, yes. let's remember again when all these accelerations began, as soon as it failed. the first maidan yushchenko orange. the revolution, the population did not support , began to fail and there was a danger of integration with russia, then very powerful
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talk about it, an association with the european union immediately arises and begins to unwind as soon as yanukovych refuses - these are associations a coup d'etat takes place. and under the brand of the fact that otherwise we will not enter europe, it begins to be exterminated. everything, uh, russian in ukraine now, when they see that ukraine can be lost? they need to throw in the next candidate. look, you are almost here, and i am sure, almost sure, so let's say that two days before ukraine and the current kiev regime goes. they may even accept ukraine, this already in order to fight again for this richest land. they are fighting for this land for many centuries, drang on a hosten is not an empty phrase. this is what the west has been living for centuries and it is not going to give up, so they understand that ukraine will not be in
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the form in which it is now, but they will begin to tell in these territories, look, if it weren’t for the russian barves, these orcs if you were in the european union now, you would have those same pensions and others. this is the next stage, when i will interrupt you now about this explanation of yours, see. eh, russian orcs, yes, that's how, to tell everyone, and the european countries that in general, in words yes and in deeds, uh, they support ukraine, as it were, they nevertheless find some small flaws. here in this common european policy aimed at supporting ukraine, i mean, here we are now listening to the prime minister of estonia. here she is, as it were , looking at everything that is happening now. here is how ukraine supports. they're in a hurry. this is what says, for example, that nato's strategy towards the baltic states. she's not very thoughtful. what if russian orcs suddenly attack this
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small proud estonian power, then, uh, hmm, estonia will not be saved. not because the attitude to history is somehow worse than to ukraine, well, but simply does not have time to do it. well, because here they have not thought out this strategy of theirs. let us listen to this lady calla, please, it will mean. destruction of countries and our culture, our old city of tallinn on the ancient history of culture, all this will be erased from the map, including our people, our nation. now everyone can see that the concept of stretching does not really work in foreign troops based in estonia do not like the risk of being destroyed in the event of a potential russian invasion. well, in general, it seems to me that this confirms the words of igor sergeevich bogdan anatolyevich they pulled. yes, i just wanted to say. they said here that there is nato montenegro a small country. there's less than a million people, 700,000 i think. here it is in nato, but if it has not yet been accepted since 2010 , for 12 years the candidate is still standing as a candidate, this is a
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much smaller state than ukraine however, if the problem is not enough. it doesn't matter, there are problems everywhere. oh, well, here, uh, as far as estonian politicians are concerned, by the way. recently, one of them complained that the ukrainians, remember, there was a scandal, just a corruption that the former president, yes, yes, she said that you can trade with in principle, they will cheat you on investing any conditions that are now as some kind of formalized the list of items there put forward from my point of view is irrelevant. you can always say that one of them violated all ukrainian officials. always talking about corruption in their own country. yeah, so defeating corruption in ukraine and, uh, realizing these conditions is almost impossible. i also think that no one is there for her. corruption is a management tool for me at the end of this on this part of the conversation. i get a concept. why do you need to rush to really save at least something for yourself? come on, here, uh,
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the decision, of course, is absolutely political why the candidate was granted, uh, in the eu exactly ukraine moldova because they are on the verge of confrontation with russia, that is, it has already been said here. the goal of motivating the same ukrainian soldiers and officers motivates the population of ukraine to continue the fight against russia. and it shows them such a carrot that if they see it, then if they , at least within the framework of their state, somehow overcome, so to speak, russian, and then the enemy them, and the uni-e life will be like in france or somewhere in germany. of course, absolutely nikolaevich spoke a little slippery, but i can to be, i will repeat in more detail. here, for a man , somehow a ukrainian soldier, who is sitting there somewhere now, he woke up with an honest, that he is not a member candidate eating. and now he wakes up with the feeling that he is a candidate, and now how he will go on the attack and reach
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ukraine and and go out in europe there are carbides, but is it called carbide? yes, which means that this is practically fiction, yes, ukrainians are almost 14 and even up to 14 years, another 91 years for ukrainians every year every month each. on the day, they talk about how good it is in the west and how good it is to be in the west from the fourteenth year. this is said to be part of the state's open state physical propaganda. that is nowhere right now. it turns out that at first they received without visas, the only thing is that they made such a huge progress, and now they can travel to europe as europeans. well, actually no europeans, but in quotation marks as europeans. now they got the status of candidates for the eu of course, this is not the status of a member of the european union. and the same thing was done, by the way, with turkey when it was accepted, the same status was given in turkey. in 1999
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, the europeans, including the germans and the french , realized that they were not going to accept turkey as a full member. then already in the ninety-ninth year. they knew it. in this way, they wanted to prevent the withdrawal of turkey, such is the west, to stake out the territory, since they did not go further, turkey anyway withdrew under erdogan. she moved away from the smell. further than it was to think, ukraine is trying to do the same, so the main goal is to motivate ukrainians and motivate moldovans, as it was already said here , we still have two countries to take certain steps against russia. let's go to moldova in a couple of minutes before the disturbing news alcohol will not help relieve stress, stay healthy. take enterosgel to reduce alcohol intoxication. do not miss
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is this the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear? and we continue. let's move now to moldova as i said. at the very beginning , the representatives of the political leadership of this country. it is to this candidate status that eu members even declared their readiness to join anti-russian sanctions. let's
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take a closer look, let's see so far moldova will not join the anti-russian sanctions in chisinau, they argued that the country will not overcome the confrontation, only the current debt to gazprom exceeds $ 700 million sanctions are applied in moldova mainly in the financial and banking sector. now its level of resilience and ability to cope with problems in various areas does not allow to join a large package of eu prohibition measures but as soon as the eu leaders gave moldova the status of a rhetorician candidate. chisinau has changed dramatically but it promises completely, moldova will be in solidarity with the european union. our status european aspirations oblige to solidarity it is obvious that we will join the sanctions they are designed to stop the hostilities stop the killing of people and sit down at the negotiating table regarding the purchase of russian gas, from which the eu is threatened entirely in moldova they are not ready to refuse such sacrifices, they
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say gas from russia does not prevent the country from joining a single europe, these are separate things. we pay for gas consumption. in the fee, a lot of moldova is an independent sovereign country, its inhabitants decide whether they want membership in the european union so igor petrovich do you think this moldovan path will be longer, shorter than the ukrainian one, moldova is actually at a fork here, or wait, like ukraine 10 years and beyond uh, joining the european union or how if such an option become part of romania and the impression is that the current authorities, who are losing popularity very quickly, are simply pushing this topic of unification with romania. and here's how you feel about sergeyevich's assumption that moldova is actually in this way. now just throw a military conflict. in fact, this situation looks very strange when,
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suddenly, a neutral state, around it, talk begins that it should purchase weapons, and even the young president says that even lethal weapons. they would wanted to get. the question is, for what, that is, they really want to fight. the moldovans categorically do not want to fight, and what’s more, they are not psychologically ready to fight the russians, so to speak, like the romanians. well, they live. in general, there are a lot in the russian-speaking environment. there, half of the population is some kind. and by the way, there were romanian volunteers present there, they must have fought in moldova, fought in moldova for the personality. this is true, but there were enough moldovans and romanian volunteers who were ready to fight against transnistria against russia when russia came to this war, i apologize right away there was nothing left, the fact of the matter is that no one is
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considering the option that moldova will declare war on russia or that the moldovans will go to war against the territory, there are options on the territory of russia it is considered what in the west that the moldavian troops may be, the romanian volunteers will enter into a confrontation and this means, uh, i have i have one assumption. wait west would like to create new points. well that's my opinion yes, if, uh, eu membership, uh, ukraine, the european union needs in order to hmm take everything that is left there. what lies badly, then in the case of moldova. maybe i'm wrong. this is an attempt not to give us, but to create this corridor along the black sea coast, about which many say, yes, they are odessa, that is, they will not give us the opportunity and cut through this additional
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point of confrontation in transnistria of potential , there is also such a topic as the mouth , danube. why is the price for the west moldova so because again in order to tear off this territory, they have been fighting since 1812? six months in 812, moldova became part of russia 200. how much is it 20 years ago? yes, 210 years ago, don't ask me. i can't count years ago. this mathematical russia entered the danube russia began to control the exit from the colossal european river, therefore, immediately after our defeat in the crimean campaign, which required the west, all these old european countries cut off a piece of territory so that we would in no way touch the mouth danube and immediately after the first world war. why was romania given the opportunity to seize bessarabia, again in order to deprive russia of access to the danube, and therefore, immediately after the collapse of the
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soviet union, they tried to include moldova in romania in order to guarantee this side now, when we see that moldova is becoming a candidate candidate. should russia somehow celebrate, but now let's now propose, for example, european gas pricing times - this is now you share european values share the european sanctions that are being taken against russia. well then divide the european gas price on the spot 1.400-1500. you know, if they refuse to pay, or if they really join the sanctions, then these agreements can be revised. now we have a contract. e with moldova and they are more or less. i say peace. i forgot the parts of speech problem as it came west. now we need to pit us both here into a conflict and in kaliningrad, in no case should we succumb
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on their provocations. i think it's a gas story. she is a little. well, you can put it off. she's not like that. and here is the military history. more serious , we will show it more. yes, because after moldova became an eu candidate in tiraspol, of course, a very big tension. on this occasion, on the eve of the minister of foreign affairs of pridnestrovie, vitaly ignatiev, said that the unification of moldova and the unrecognized republic was ruled out. according to him , in different values and identities, pridnestrovie does not want either romania or the eu the words of the president of moldova, maia sandu, that pridnestrovie is sleeping and sees how to find itself in a united europe. this is pure populism, i am sure that the chisinau leadership does not fully understand. what does the people of moldova itself want, since no one asked the people there, did not hold referendums. we know what our main vector is independence and the subsequent development of relations with russia, if sandu really wants european integration or unification with romania, then the people of pridnestrovie have completely different plans
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that they are trying to make a second ukraine out of moldova a week ago. sergei lavrov warned that, moreover, according to the minister, chisinau would blackmail russia with the promised membership in the eu, the russians should again give us a discount on gas. compared to those contracts that were signed to defer payments. uh, that is, such you know begging by and large, extortion, and playing here, if you don’t make us faster, let’s go to europe and if we do it anyway, we’ll go slower very rudely the european union is working forcing these here are not even candidates yet. open as you said , the second front, and last week i promised 40 million euros from the european defense fund, they say, don’t worry, comrade moldova, we will solve your military issues in this difficult context in the context of a war that threatens both moldova and europe, your country will receive additional 40 million euros from
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our defense fund, which will double your military budget. we know that moldova adheres to a neutral status. but this in no way means the demilitarization of the country a few days before the visits of the french leader in chisinau, moldovan deputy prime minister aleksein again started talking about the return of the territory of pridnestrovie, said the republic sees these lands in its composition and does not consider the option of abandoning the region. chisinau has some developments regarding the status of pridnestrovie within moldova and reintegration at the level of society is gradually taking place, in my opinion , there is no need to refuse the 5 + 2 format, perhaps it is necessary to increase the status of the european union and the united states from observers to full-fledged participants in the negotiations, so that all parties are equally represented igor petrovich , i understand the quality of the military budget was 40 million. it will become 80 million - this is not the biggest figure, but these military preparations. why is moldova really somehow considering the possibility of
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returning pridnestrovie by force or is it all puffing up the cheeks of devices a provocation against pridnestrovie, it’s very easy there and i must say that the spring months of ukraine really come to for chisinau to do something. eh, against transnistria on a military basis, fortunately in chisinau politics were not ready for this. they didn't miss out on it. right now, the west, uh, is intensively beginning to pump up the young with weapons. uh, romania is also joining in with some of its military assistance. the work at the military airport in marculesti, that is, the impression that this will change in the actions of the moldovan authorities, after they have received this new status and they are linking 40 million traitors. e. promoting its e transition from candidacy to membership with the settlement of the transnistrian conflict. it is quite possible that this is one of the conditions that the transnistrian problem must first be resolved. how to solve on moldovan terms, if
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not by force? eh, it seems that, but about them some promise to go this way, after all, they made it open from russia, in fact, it doesn’t seem. here it was really correctly said that the moldovans themselves should be motivated for the war, this is the right one, but to use it under the guise of a moldovan romanian army. yes, what was actually done and in the ninety-first year during that conflict, well, volunteers are not volunteers equipment. this is a much larger option, because you understand there is a temptation to situations, let's say a complete collapse of the front. in the donbass or some other total complication for ukraine to create a sore point, when russia will have to quickly cut through the corridor, and it will have to be cut through in the event of intensification of hostilities, that is, and at the same time, they perfectly understand that in this configuration special war. the operation, one way or another, you will have to solve the problems of transnistria , russia, officials there may not voice it today, but we cannot
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leave this situation in some configuration. here, with a distance somewhere, the situation will hang, it will still be decided. you understand who will start it first, only this question is for the romanians. why is it beneficial for romanians and why do they motivate, because they really grew up , uh union. this is really a fig idea for romanian politicians, and moldovan politics. they are not independent. there are forces to rely on something, you understand, yes, everyone dreams of something. yes, there is no quieter colleague, not even a single political party in romania that would like to unite an agreement with moldova. where did they get it from? i'm fine, what was the question that was presented in the program we would unite you soviet, did you hear the protocol? have you heard about bssku when they heard this man in the future chair of the president? you never know what the president of russia says about the program?
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no, in short, we're sorry, well, no. to someone yes, if you are going to the country, it is you yourself who program there are such general projects. there is such a party. uh, there are, uh, interested forces and deputies of parliament and the military, who are members of the military -political elite who think so. romanian troops occupied parts of the odessa region, parts of others parts of ukraine well, then, then it was the time of the second world war. the great patriotic war. and in the early nineties, the same romanian volunteers about whom we already spoke about sent here, how they got into the territory. uh, moldavia's spasm of bucharest is the whole thing with more than just laughter. and with the consultation of
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bucharest with the americans. it was already a conflict. they were interested in having russian influence. russian, even then, even the influence of yeltsin was still russia, so that it was minimized, because they understood. what is perspective now, in connection with this, the prospects of pridnestrovie in romania are well understood in bucharest, as well as in chisinau, that the union, about which we are talking here, is impossible, a full-fledged union. until the problem is solved, pridnestrovie will not be resolved, because there is no internationally recognized border of moldova outside of this one common with pridnestrovie, therefore it is important for romania, as well as for those in chisinau who would like, it is not from romania but. there are also such figures there, and everyone there has romanian passports for a long time, including the leaders of the supreme country, they, of course, understand that the problem of the union can be solved only after solving the problem with transnistria and the current conflict in ukraine, in which the west is completely on the side of ukraine against
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russia, for them it may look like such a potential temptation . big at the same time completely solve problems with an annex in some and tomorrow not today or tomorrow, but maybe in a few unions call that they needed a conflict in ukraine they need nikomu nikolayevich because he is very actively disagreed. only i don’t understand what exactly with all this, on the one hand, everything seems to be correct, but on the other hand, one amendment is needed. and now hugh is going on here for a minute , such a rehearsal of informational, and informational preparation practically for the ukrainian scenario, no one actually hides from respected opponents that russia's goal is to establish territorial unity and health. and that a significant part of the ukrainian operation is aimed at this. secondly, it is obvious that moldova or romania should never take the
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first step in aggression. this is exactly the ukrainian scenario. it means that some kind of provocation is being prepared, or simply without provocation. and we know that they will strike in 2 weeks and hostilities will begin from the side of transnistria and the second. this version will not be, just as there was no aggression from ukraine that russia in the fourteenth year in russia had no other way out exactly the same thing will be alexander nikolaevna now i emphasize that neither donetsk nor lugansk were and are not today part of territory of the russian federation, but to proclaim someone’s interests to be their own, including russian fishermen . this was
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spelled out in un documents, by the way, putin, in my opinion, messi reminded about this in order to act absolutely in accordance with international laws. excuse me, as in the bible you can find anything there, they treat the world very carefully. they know that this situation is very easy to destroy, and then it will be impossible to force moldova to fight against. eh, transnistria is quite difficult. i mean in moldovan residents of moldova, but chisinau is now a puppet. the west, they can decide on almost everything, romania, which could help chisinau, purely technically, the armament of the romanian army. they do not allow her to somehow oppose something. in russia, the romanians would not want direct contact with the russian army, but romania has nato contingents, including americans, including the french, and now such a multicultural army, you know, that can suddenly somehow, uh, cross the pond. well , that is, they simply will not have a choice.
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how to join, wait a minute, i would like to say, well , first of all, be quiet, please, transnistria is extremely vulnerable to its own point of view. it is stretched out. there is a very small army of its own. uh, ogrv is a separate group of russian troops. she's also really small. in general, by the way, we are not talking about joining moldova to romania, we are talking about what is real. maybe moldova this conflict he can start there, draw in romania and fight. they will not be with the russian army, but with the transnistrian and ugrian, and then, when, respectively, from the rear, ukraine will strike from the side. e, odessa region. all transnistria will simply be quickly destroyed. there are russian mirotic contingents. he very much said the sound to 6.000 of these people, about which small arms, only now a person, but don't forget there are citizens there. yes, who will not do it, and in connection with this, i would also like to remind you that romania is still in
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in the nineties, a law was adopted according to which moldova is the second romanian state. now regular joint meetings of the romanian and moldovan parliaments are being held regularly , there are no further laws that have been presented, romania has refused to accept it recognizes the border between moldova and romania on the grounds that such a border cannot exist, in principle, since this border is the result of stalin's crimes. this is how it is all presented there about the fact that romania does not want to join the following, romania really wants to grab it all. but, of course, she really understands the balance of power and is afraid. that's why the west needs to push them so that they get involved without the fifth article. it doesn't matter if they are destroyed. the main thing is that we spend at least some of our resources on this, so moldova resisted at first, whether it joins the sanctions, or not. this is where the candidate
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eu members give it to her, we will support you more decisively, act against pridnestrovie now the most dangerous thing becomes the point - this is pridnestrovie this decision, i would say that there, uh, postponed, and now the blood can be shed. in the near future, the interest is in the blood in the conflict. it seems to me quite right of the european union to develop conflicts somewhere, but i have it right and of course absolutely. it is possible for the european union it is already completely connected by a member of bolton said, it is necessary to destroy transnistria, it is necessary to surround russia where this bolt is. he is the united states of the european union does not need it. wait, i suspect. in a couple of years again, maybe come back, right? and what about biden just the other day, what this conflict should show who will run out of steam first, russia or the european union, everything is said, honestly open. so let's take a little pause then. let's continue with the
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the military extreme for failures at the fronts. our command sent us to hell itself, for which the ukrainian authorities took up arms against the oligarchs to be friends , to restore relations, or vice versa, to find out if ordinary ukrainians are ready for a european gender identity. we prove every day that we are part of the european values about this right now. this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. we continue. let's go back again. uh, to ukraine a little more detail we are talking, uh, on those uh points that are required for entry into a full-fledged speech in the eu here separately. here is the fight against corruption, in the announcement it was about the oligarchs, and then, as i said, let's get back to this istanbul convention. although andrey vladimirovich says that it’s not only about lgbt people. well, the conflict itself, which exists in ukraine, is
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just around lgbt people. but more on that later, but now let’s start with the latest events in the war zone, because kiev leaders have such a mood for sinusoid, these are their talking heads. they then say that there we are there, as there is an arrest officer, he says, there we tear into meat. something like that now they are all bad again. i don't know. i read last night, someone from the ukrainians, in my opinion, this butusov e wrote that they all surrendered north of donetsk. i haven’t seen it yet. this is not official information from our side. as it was not confirmed, but now they are talking about it, they began to retreat. well, they started to retreat - this is one thing about this. hmm, there were messages. but the fact that they are completely gone, while no. let's see our material in the russian ministry of defense reported that about 2,000 ukrainian militants were surrounded near selgorskoe and zolote . all of them according to the people's militia. lpr. ready to surrender along the way, our military liberated the village of vrubovka, thereby blocking the
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last opportunity to supply the ukrainian army. in this district. how many days of the week is nothing who where do the men come from? eat? let's. let's surrender in groups at the first opportunity. here are the shots taken in the liberated shreds and rai alexandrovka how old are you 54-34, how old are you, 20? another cauldron is brewing near severodonetsk, or now there, surrounded by the risk of getting up to 7,000 ukrainian soldiers, they complain that they were thrown to the slaughter, our command sent us to the very inferno without an opportunity. well, the task, namely. and tactical support, gloomy front-line reports increase the split between the ukrainian president and the generals, the press writes that zelensky forbade the army to retreat from lysychansk,
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in fact dooms the soldiers to certain death in his the turn of the commander-in-chief of the all-union zaluzhnoy, who back in may feared encirclement near lisichansk, said that the troops were resisting with all their might and the situation was extremely difficult zelensky by all means. he is trying to get rid of the pledged and a week ago he ordered the commander-in-chief to deal with logistics and provide soldiers with helmets and bulletproof vests. this turn surprised even ukrainian journalists. zelensky instructed the commander-in-chief of the armed forces for a false check of logistics, for which defense minister reznikov is responsible in the fourth month of the supreme commander of the messages in the media and social networks learned that some of the soldiers at the front. no body armor. zelensky's instruction to the zaluzhny made not because of the address and complete silence in the minister's message. reznikova looks like a desire to transfer responsibility for supplies from the political leadership to the military . now they have come up with something in kiev. what to do with the inconvenient commander-in-chief, according to some reports, zelensky decided to shift all the blame for the failures at the front onto the zaluzhny, and later dismiss him
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, but in order to exaggerate the move a little heavy artillery went off, the presidential adviser arrestovich turned into a zaradnik and now regularly talks about how bad everything is at the front. the first thing that happens is that the situation becomes complicated in our country and we sweat a lot. it is really complex and creates big problems, let's say, while i remind you that it was literally there a couple of weeks ago. this same arrestovich spoke about how they deftly lured the russian troops into a trap by pretending to surrender, severodonetsk, here alexandrovich, you understand the algorithm by which they get here these are public statements, that is, hurray hurray, we are winning, which means we have a counteroffensive there. we'll take the crimea now, then the bass, everything is bad there, then again bach, it depends on something, probably, that
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they say so. well, including the president himself, moreover, it does not just depend on the technique. and what is this technique? by the way, about how to trap, i already said somewhere, well done lured the bears into a mousetrap. yeah, uh, the technique, their next task, uh, is to maintain a certain degree of excitement in ukrainian society, and here look at when the impact on a person is going on. with the help of emotions, it doesn't matter if they are positive or absolutely love-hate. never mind. the most important thing is to transfer a person to an emotionally excited state. after that, his common sense is turned off and then his box opens and you can play it there on the piano on his brain, what is it called? nlp neuro linguistic programming nlp is very difficult. eh, there, well, it's still right. yes, here are some specific products with which here, here, and here, this is the general situation. that is, it is maintenance in such an excited state. this is
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also how they behaved in the donbass for eight years, that is, they kept the conflict in a semi-heated state. therefore, they were. can content support this degree of excitement at some point? from writing all all the problems on him, the problems accumulate at this moment, it turns out, zelensky tells us that the culprit, he did everything wrong. so we found five helmets that he hid in his safe and did not put them in army. that's who's bad now everyone is nervously excited. and it will help somehow. this will inevitably happen. eh, only there it will not be about casco, e, they will blame. eh, i exaggerate. you understand, yes zaluzhny zelensky, that he is guilty, er, of the death of ukrainian soldiers, because he is a mediocre general. he blew everything, did nothing, on time, and so on, and the helmets will go in. but the only thing. i have already spoken about this and the information that has come
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out since yesterday about the transfer to kiev of additional e-military units, including those that are on border with belarus are. despite the fact that nothing has changed in belarus. uh-huh, they are taken to kiev, it reminds me of something from our history, when there was a concentration. in moscow, military e formations before the shores were arrested. uh, i think this is an attempt to save himself zaluzhnogo, because shoot by the way, andrey do not agree. that's just when we take the example of beria there is a question. decided the soviet leadership within itself, zaluzhny was fed simultaneously to the pentagon in a separate line from semensky and for in order to carry out some operation here. what kind of false against zelensky, what is zelensky against narrowed, someone should get a label for reigning, therefore, when they say that a military coup can happen, a military coup can only happen if zelensky is currently recognized as a reclaimed asset so just as a narrowed zaluzhny can remove zelensky, in the sense of a narrowed one , they can only be removed if
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zelensky is allowed to do this, because that the same mortgaged, in addition to this ukrainian press. including, i must admit, the filings of some russian telegram channels were painted and promoted like a military genius, which is actually a small truth in fact. but, nevertheless , this figure is really for the ukrainian society, it is often so advantageous, therefore, without a command from there, no one removes anyone. kazakov specifically. yes, you can. well , let's andrey vladimirovich say that everything is wrong. i agree so. i just want to say, of course yes, uh dispute. so, uh, sovereign, uh, ukraine and kiev, yes. or a subject, so i always say that it is not absolutely sovereign, but at the same time, subjectivity can be put before the american curators, and they will also have no choice . here is this option, when the tail can wag the dog once. let's say that to completely remove all illusions that
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there may be some kind of military coup in ukraine, the very political system of ukraine is built in such a way that since the ninety-first year, in fact, the military has ceased to play any role in the life of the country in terms of its management, therefore. not a military coup, when some forces are constantly playing with their hands in the water. i want to say that granting the status of a candidate for eu membership is the strongest blow to poroshenko, the strongest, who dreams like that he was happy, so he was happy, but the fact is that this is zelensky’s huge argument that you couldn’t promise. and i did after that really now poroshenko will have no chance inside ukraine. and for us by the way, e membership of the candidate investigation. for us. this is a lesson. in what sense, that all these countries that we talked about there, that hungary austria will not let them join there, everything is quiet calm andrey vladimirovich 27 voted easier, and therefore zelensky is now not just on
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horseback, he really is now much more than before will control. everything can be written on the water, just at the very moment, if you are now at all, i think it's bad. let's next just after. only after now practically, i i would just like to add that not only the military, but also the sbu, because now they are very actively talking about the resignation of the head. sbu blaming what happened yes, as long as it is really in its place. well, not the right person, well, what can i say, and in case of defeat it is inevitable, that is, you need to do something, you need to take some actions, and here the resignation of the military leadership. supply of new people. this is what gives hope to people. hope is what feeds ukraine today . therefore, we will always hear the same trust. at we have a plan. we according to this opposites. it does not matter. who is here with us, but
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still everything goes according to plan, everything is fine, according to plan. yes, today he already told the turning point in the war, all this came. even today i 'm standing already told, only the other way around. but he says that we all win and the main victory is unconditional. this is candidate alekseinovich. just andrei ivanovich says that they played the military, and not when the role is true, but they played all sorts of paramilitary structures, roles, for the first. well, look now they have become military. they were podavakovym and remain under him, but now they are the military, all these tetraboro defenses are a military structure. in general, there would be no attempt at a beautiful center for a civilian form, but for civilian people. well, one of the centers of power, so to speak, if they could not commit, yes, some actions. yes, of course they can. this is ukraine, and everything is there, maybe, but it is clear that in the copper field from the side there are obvious military rights for ukraine. we see
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mariupol there no one has forgotten now severodonetsk or now it's a matter of time. and what remains is a claim to zelensky zelensky say listen, guys, i'll agree. i have success the united states allocates half a billion dollars, which means outside, and outside this huge tranche. i gave you a candidacy, it's all mine, it's all my merits, and where are the merits of the military, so to speak. it is as if for a false one, it does not matter to whom he will say this to. and where are your guys, victory, i do everything. look, i do not sleep days and nights, and you piss, then the situation at the front. may be, maybe, but it seems to me that western curators will not allow this break. they will be e counter e, such a blow for ukraine yes, it is necessary to show in this complexity. they told you that you can do something quickly once and tell this curator. well, that's how it happened. zelensky is also
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not an idiot there in kiev, they are not idiots. then the defeat must be taken on by your choice, or you are responsible for this defeat and say, then we go, we did not manage. well, let's try again, either you find, that's how the wrong person who i am is something good. i worked fine. but with us here, look within the framework of a new sincerity in what it is such a philosophical concept, when zelensky appears t-shirts, when and you, too, in this old one, i have an old one, because it was not fashionable. this is the new sincerity. when you say that the arrest officer is complaining here, they don’t complain here, he complains in every video in every video. uh, the arrestovich talks about the mistakes of the ukrainian army, and the losses and so on. it's important in every it, well in almost everyone, but in almost everyone, he admits mistakes. it is clear that the office? i'm just the rudder
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, we're not a manipulative move. so, zelensky can , among other things, take responsibility within the framework of this new sincerity, but not show it. yes, i'll speculate. it doesn't matter. and because this is what i want to ask, it means that if the military, as you say, but they themselves will never decide to carry out coups. i asked a question, they didn't answer it. are there any other people at the hands of the military. i did not mean, there is a national bad. i meant the oligarchs hmm so if the requirements one of them is the fight against corruption. andrei vladimirovich says that this is now a terrible blow to poroshenko, with whom he seems to be fighting. yes, but the oligarchs cannot show with the help of the military. it’s just that as far as their position is now, the situation at the front is more repression against the oligarchs, not just because they give money there , those who gave, like the good ones didn’t give the bad ones, all the bad ones are already compiled about them as a specific list. who has faults. this week
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, dnepropetrovsk mayor boris filatov complained about entrepreneur igor kolomoisky according to him, a native of the city is the only one of the local businessmen who does not help their small motherland during the war, they say, help comes from both large enterprises and small businesses, and only kolomoisky remains aloof, a person should simply realize that the city that did his billionaire. he must help the country. why doesn't he do it? they say somewhere he helped there, but we do not see. uh, in the dnieper, there is certainly no help from him, that is, he disappeared altogether after all, kolomoisky was not seen to the end recently at the ski resort of bukovel, but his colleague, oligarch viktor pinchuk, does not hide money from february 24 , he already donated a large amount to the army with our money, more than a billion rubles, but he has another problem: part of the proceeds come from assets in russia for example, in our country, the metal trading company interpip-m kommersant writes that it belongs to pinchuk and earned it last year. up to millions of rubles, the oligarch himself
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prefers to pretend that this company is not very it is important to show the whole world and of course ukraine that ukrainian business. here, only in ukraine, for us , ukraine is our only motherland, the only thing that matters to us is the place where we invest, the place for which we will fight . in the moscow region, which is preparing live real estate for sale, another family company sells building materials. in four crimean hypermarkets in 2020 alone, the company earned almost 350 mln rub. spouses fill up the sins before ukraine with the help of army donations for our money for half a billion rubles and militant photos, but the ukrainian army is most actively sponsored by the oligarch renat akhmetov, if we count in rubles his company has already transferred almost 4.5 billion, but all donations may turn out to be few
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president 's office ukraine back in march developed a plan for dioligarchization, and on june 17 it became. it is known that the national security and defense council approved the regulation on the register of oligarchs, as they say, the ukrainian telegram channels zelensky and his the environment wants to take the economic elite, the country under full control and the first on the list is just akhmetov those people who can be considered oligarchs behave differently, someone stayed in the country, and someone ran away, someone helps the army as much as possible, although does not take a selfie does not tell about every car for 20,000 euros that he himself brought it in the same way as when they began to take pictures with machine guns. i call such people selfists. it’s very annoying when they start making political game out of the war. aleksey alekseevich can they to yours these people are big business, oligarch. in general, they can be counted on one hand, feeling that some failures may be attributed to them, we will try to push zelensky behind the fifth column
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. i want to emphasize this. i have a wrong and what he says about kolomoisky. this, of course, they are more than a public pr preparation for kolomoisky for the surrender of dnepropetrovsk, you see, all the oligarchies help, and klomoisky is such a fine fellow, no understanding helped because filatov is kolomoisky, 100 150 or 200%. we see an example of a reverse pr that no longer works for the ukrainian, but for the russian audience. this means that preparations are already underway for the surrender of dnepropetrovsk to russian troops. this means the first second, as regards akhmetov according to akhmetov. we delivered such a powerful missile bombing strike that for the fourteenth year for the fifteenth for everything he has done in the last 8 years, he will understand and remember and by and large, at least half of his business. now lies in ruins he no longer belongs and will never belong again . therefore, akhmetov, in many ways, is also already played characters, which is concerning, and the rest of the oligarchs. uh, the ukrainian center here
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appeared in the crimean. yes, i know this mall . this is also a question in the head of the region. and as for the state in which they work, where they send their income, but in general, and, of course, zelensky is building an absolutely autocratic state. and even i would say dictatorship, and in this case certainly. they will be all oligarchs. e. well, in fact, censure what they are with they will agree on how to defect. and as soon as we understand this, as soon as the dog appears on the air again, since avakov is now, uh, the key force for the oligarchs and controls the scorpus, the most combat-ready aggressive units in the armed forces of ukraine, as soon as he appears on the air, we will immediately understand. um, which way is the wind blowing? here i would also like to add a little more about the zelensky conflict laid down on the previous topic and yet, dear colleagues said that they are there, but they are completely laid down still belong to the uk, he even
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has awards from e from the queen of england. that 's all his preparations, he went through the great britain as the head of the committee, what is called yes , a mentor, and i'll tell you that, for example, in the same danetsk, there are very active rumors that e mortgaged can, e time to take power from your hands directly to the military coup, i would not discount the option, perhaps, about big business, as aleksey alekseevich noted. they feel the approach of another force very much feel where the breeze blows, if they really feel where the wind is blowing, well, you can somehow agree. and vladimir alexandrovich cannot be taken out somewhere on a dark night, but, firstly, uh, let's start with the fact that ukraine has traditionally been a state that was very much ruled. well, how often is the management of the oligarchies just like zelensky, this tradition has sharply broken, collapsed, because zelensky is a mentor of completely different forces of the forces represented . these are precisely the international ones that carry out external control of ukraine, these forces
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much more powerful than all the oligarchs inside ukraine; secondly, these oligarchs now have them. they have no means, no tools to topple zelensky, who has such powerful support. in principle, the calls for the oligarchs sounded a very long time ago, the firtish was arrested in this austria, oh, lord, yes. exactly these calls were made a very long time ago, uh, by a person who in the nineties moshenko plundered the budget, he is still there and sitting in uh, the united states of america, so the oligarchs are considered from my point of view solely as a food base these are people who should finance the war, who should finance, the state, which further at a certain moment a certain carte blanche, because the interests coincided, which are no longer needed, and in this sense, we can say that ukraine has already experienced an anti-oligarchic revolution. well , i wouldn’t say that, ukraine in principle, there was a revolution, in which the state collapsed, it was an anti-ukrainian revolution, an anti-state revolution. she herself is revolutions and the state destroyed. let's nikolaevich well first, i would like to say about the terms. i think that when ivan talked about the word
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big business, can billionaires use it more correctly? than the word oligarch is now used, that's all for ukraine. uh, big business, which is very closely connected with the authorities and benefits from this connection about nothing. i am now what now at the present moment not before, and after you do not talk big business talk and big more true, so on. if you follow, i think that this topic, of course, is possible for discussion, but there will be no practical way out of it, because even if this change of power occurs, which is being discussed, i am also not very sure that ukraine’s position will somehow change, that it will change for the sake of andrey vladimirovich apparently, as i understand you, he suggested that they would fight zelensky in order to preserve the corruption ties of the corruption components. so this will change in relation to russia, nothing will change. listen to this how i will change. here i am a big big businessmen. i know little for us, but enough oligarchs have done it. well
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, no, well, you're correcting it now. this is not an oligarchy. yes, but how do i understand their logic, there eh? the most important thing is to really save. eh your uh, this material uh, if i proceed from the fact that if ah the president, zelensky some time ago there proclaimed a fight against the oligarchs. well, they have some kind of laws there, something else was adopted, which means that now they have been given this status of a candidate member. eu tell you and corruption must be defeated. andrey vladimirovich says that this is all quite fast. might happen there, i guess. i am president zelensky will crush these oligarchs, but they will not think this is going on, there is a special operation. how will they have one desire to save their will they will they will be here it doesn't matter. well, i 'm telling you that i realized that this is impossible. just. uh, this level has already entered when the actual
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military operations. they are incomparably more important than all other actions in their logic in their logic. maybe be, so here it is again. as for personal acquaintances, it means that it’s better now that we eliminate this little problem called zelensky so that he is for us, and then we will agree with the russians. here the big difference is that instead of zelensky another person will come if they think they think, how much is obtained in that, well, i just know, but they are from the ukrainian oligarchs. come on, with ukrainians they don’t have much difference from huge russian ones, because they were never forbidden to withdraw their capital abroad. and the bulk of the money is behind overseas, so it's not such a problem for them. as for the russian, the same farmer and others all brought out during abroad. that is why indulgences alex wait, please give abroad. here is your money, the assets on which they
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earn in ukraine or russia, and have already lost half of the assets. everybody. sorry, the port of odessa was actually lost. e. azov stood up. you were still waiting for me. there is no new base. viktorovich yes, i will briefly just remind you that the main tool for e-power or demonstration the authorities on the part of the oligarchs have always been the media and this is the main tool for influencing work with the population. and now they don’t have this tool in ukraine exactly, because the media clearing is absolutely cleared here they are an unarmed army, and the entire armed forces all armed formations are now subordinating the upper corner to the commander, this clearing has been cleared for them, therefore , they have one option left is this to negotiate with zelensky more andrey bogdan and when he was the head of the office of the president of ukraine, he told quite frankly that one person loomed in front of them, whom zelensky wanted to be without zelensky like, this is putin. he wanted to be such
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a good putin for ukraine and they took a lot of carbon papers, including they wanted to carbon copy work with the oligarchs. how andrei, lord, and abramovich served time, rewound his two terms in the governor's chair of chukotka, covering everything with tiles there . that's how they wanted to work with theirs and he works and let him continue to do it. so for what and now, uh, it will most likely be the same the most pattern. if there is, in general, where to work with this pattern, they initially wanted to agree with the oligarchs. not if not in a good way, then in a bad way, hence the criminal cases and that's it. rest. apparently you will explain to me whether zelensky succeeded or not, at what stage it turned out. now the circumstances are now in general, the rules of the game no longer work aleksandrovich you know, it seems to me that our colleagues argue, as if in a paradigm. sorry
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for the swear word february 22. now everything is different. i'm why they themselves say that now everything will be an army? what's the difference? uh, now in the ukraine everything is possible, as far as the funds for this are concerned. i was trying to remind you about the coup attempt announced, at least handsome, but no one heard, can you once again announce the coup attempt announced by stavchenko and ruban, for which both were imprisoned? well, it's just nonsense, savchenko, if she hadn't been stupid in contacts there. this coup would have happened at once, that she really shot a pomegranate or whatever she wanted to do there, kiev is a very incomprehensible city and the road to the airport is also one, it's all very clear. actually the concentration is there. in the center no, i'm what i was then that's what i heard about this coup plus. do not forget today in ukraine a man with a gun in very different statuses.
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there is an army, there is a national corps, there are national battalions that wander along the front line, it is not clear kievan rus is there, it is not clear who they obey. thanks to zelensky with his scattering of machine guns and cartridges, an incredibly armed gangster underground, a thieves' environment. oh, all the people who dealt with ukraine knew that the world of thieves in ukraine is incomparably stronger and structuring than in russia it was about russian. sash he was in black. that's the mother. forgive me so to say for political science. yes, she was the only russian. the territory is precisely all thieves in law disappeared from there
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along with officials and oligarchs, so here i am and they are now very well armed with zelensky. here, how they do not need ukraine hmm, this one is all the more warring, where everything is falling apart, and the business is worth it, therefore, in fact. let's not forget combinations can be very complex avatars. this is a person who is integrated into all these environments and through us the corps of the army and with the thieves' world. he himself is from there from the political and soligarchs. that is, avakov. he is not the only one who goes to tv, so we know him. he is not the only one there and one more second. we now talk all the time about how the tail saws. let's take a second think about a dog. here such a combination can develop, when it will be profitable for washington to change a person, they inflated from zelensky yes , the pop star of the world will change a person. to leave
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the place where everything becomes clear and we continue to go back a little bit. right at the very beginning, when vanya talked about those, uh, necessary actions that ukraine had to take in order to get this status of candidates for the next eu, we mentioned the istanbul convention and the war said that its supreme council ratified it later with us was small microsport. andrey vladimirovich well, i asked you to put it all off, let me remind you. yes, i said that there is the lgbt andrey vladimirovich istanbul convention. not only about lgbt, i told him that it was precisely because of this lgbt topic that the main sport in ukraine is there
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. they argued about the part of the document that prescribes the protection of sexual minorities and introduces the concept of gender and zelensky did not focus on gender identity and said that ukraine shares european values, its main meaning is simple, but extremely important. this commitment to protect women from violence and all forms of discrimination proves every day that we are already part of a united european value space. the main opponent of the convention is all ukrainian councils of the church and religious organizations. where all the major denominations of ukraine are still included. he managed disrupt the ratification of documents. now the council predicts serious splits in ukrainian society. attempts to ratify the istanbul convention in wartime and the presence of opposing views on this initiative in society will only provoke a new wave of public protests of dissatisfaction with criticism of the leadership of ukraine
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among ukrainian politicians. the most fierce opponent of the istanbul convention is the head of the party, fatherland yulia tymoshenko. she believes that the ratification of the document is nothing more than imposing alien eggs on ukraine tymoshenko expects to cancel the ratification of the convention in the constitutional court. that is, we are not talking about this convention itself, andrei vladimirovich, but a potential conflict in society. that's what you can, i will say now that there will be no conflict against the backdrop of a military operation now , this is all, so to speak. smith somewhere. maybe somewhere on the street can not be cured. now, in no case it must be, because all this has fallen out on the street to ukraine. all these conflict on the street under someone's sensitive leadership. well , everything was different in different ways, and it rarely falls out on the street, but, but this does not prevent conflicts and does not understand how to mature
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. i mean, the population is ready to accept these values, because the poles, for example, are not ready and, as far as i understand, these documents did not come out on the street. but they are ukrainians, as it were, who can tell me this clearly. no, they are not ready, if we take society, because, well, the most paradoxical thing is that no one will even read this convention. this is understandable, but still we want to go to europe, therefore, if they want to go to europe, then they must want to. it all means they're radifying it, and then, when they say, well, you'll fulfill them. of course we will. tomorrow we will start, but now just understand the time is not right now if people come out with some kind of gate. they'll beat you, but we don't want to offend gays. we signed, the istanbul convention, so let's get it somehow, we ratified it. yes, it's true, as with the minsk agreements it was signed. yes
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, we fulfill, of course, that well, the minsk agreements were not completely, what is called and they were invented in order to do something with the war, yes, and there, on the other side, was russia and here, on the other side, europe is a man who well , the structure that governs the agreement can not be implemented, because you are in front of russia, as it were, well, you will look fine, but here you still start bogdan yes, i would just like to say that the main consequences are the ratification of the tambov convention. this is a change in the means of education in the media and in the public environment. so these are legal changes. but this time in norway there is an official law that punishes with three or five years, and the conclusion is, a negative review of the lgbt community on social networks, and in germany the gbt. e lessons. well , the sexual enlightenment they go through. seven years in schools officially and if a person's parents refuse children. they also punish ideally. all this should be in ukraine, ukrainians themselves, to this there are no citizens of ukraine. we are not
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ready for this, but you understand. here we are, when we talk about ukraine and moldova, he always believes that if the majority is against it, then this will not happen. no, no one asks people if you want to go to europe. yes , it means that now you eat, at least choke now, because this is how young people should be. uh, it's taking more tolerance. somehow it can be reformatted. she can offer some beautiful candy. and so on, yes, children, but if two princesses have already distributed books for children in ukraine, what are they like in our country? yes? aleksey yes, first of all, colleagues don’t, uh, overestimate the moral character of the citizens of ukraine ukraine european leadership of motherhood is a loser in all types of fraud, including those who worked for russia in the security service. yes, i can’t help it. i answered well. call me here. now a second. i reset it once, but i already have a phone. well , i learned. yes, there he calls for the second time, the third time. well, i pick up the phone. he says, andrey
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vladimirovich, i say i'm listening to you. it means that you are worried from, uh, sberbank regarding your application, well, somehow right away, but my name is yan sergeich. my name is yan sergeevich with some kind of country accent, which means about your application. well, somehow he quickly burned out, because i don’t understand any application where to send your documents. i say yan sergeevich shove them up your ass. i had something so fun later and he was so silent, and and he didn’t find anything at all. they say no. actually seriously, over the past week, the number of these calls has increased again, that is, there was a decrease. and now they have again become the centers of my monitor, by the way, they only called, uh, the security service of another bank. no, they don't call anything from headquarters. the ministry of internal affairs, uh, are entering. yes, that is, colleagues, and the moral character of the citizens of ukraine is deluca perfection, yes, it is much worse, their state of moral character than in russia, i am already silent about the
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amount of prostitution of all kinds that is carried out there, that's all. yes? i want to say, yes, that, firstly, it will all fall on the rope ground , and secondly, the istanbul convention, you don’t know, there, the incomplete legalization of the gay community. it doesn't work that way. it's all these themes that work for a long time. they are designed for 10-15-20 years. there, in this convention, everything is about the protection of women, there is harassment. here it is, everything, it seems, everything is relatively not about it, so that women at work are not molested and groped for so to speak, wonderful, this is such a small, small cat that separates gender from sex and allows in the future international lgbt organizations lobbying through this window to pass laws that already establish the dominance of minorities in the country. so it's a long process by adopting this convention. nothing will happen instantly. no one has yet noticed anything in russia, such processes also took place, they were slowed down for me here by the key. and so, connecting with the first block of our conversation. this aspiration of euro-ukraine to europe is
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unimportant. so all the oligarchs understand that ukrainian society is torn. in europe, all thieves understand that the ukrainian society wants to enter europe with regard to the istanbul declaration. listen, well, the proud georgians have signed. we understand very well how things are in georgia, so to speak, with this, they signed. i don't understand how things are done in georgia. sorry. excuse me, the beating of protesters has ended recently. yes it was we immersion. yes, we were in the news. yes? well, these are proud georgians, and we are talking about ukraine in the national trait, which i have repeatedly said to listen to. they will tear, damn, all the forelocks, bloomers, and everything, and everything, and embroidered, because you demonstrate the rainbow flag and say yours there to show your
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loyalty. will it be in practice? most likely. no, we also perfectly understand that there , so to speak, those people, that's where the rural thinking is so rural in a good way. you have a large number of them, but they all want to go to europe, we need to offer them something. if we want to win the love of ukrainians, we need to offer some kind of model, otherwise it’s necessary to say so everything. uh, i cut off the lost chunk to offer the victory model and then everything else. see what is completely unexpected. uh, it just happened that the opponent of the opposite side said that, in general, the ukrainian people are not very moral. e, brought the whole point of view of the arguments in this direction. e. well, somewhere there is a nationalist nationalism. what do you propose to carry out denocification in ukraine, telling that in general there is not very good quality for the whole nation, not for specific people whom you rightly accuse in that they are engaged in fraud,
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telephone and so on, but the whole nation. here i am very strong. uh, well, what did he say now, but the nation this is something ukrainian blood, so to speak, don’t talk about a specific one, but the person ivanov petrov and if you never first mean by ukrainian peoples do not mean ethnic ukrainians, but still the entire community living in that area. we are talking about the lord of his containers of amines, for example, well, we can rank among the ukrainians, as such, i don’t know what the person ranks in, who himself votes for the restriction of the russian language, which is now going on the restriction of the abolition of narrow recording of his videos in russian , mr. danil, who the other day someone once again said goodbye to russia at a concert. yes , there the netherlands again, for some reason, the case is in russian. and so, when we talk about moral principles, the whole problem of ukraine comes from the fact that
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people who are in a completely different cultural community are trying to do something different. you see, when we talk about green people, who is a battle in russia who lives russian culture and which does not cancel it for himself, like this community, nevertheless imposes on people values that are personally alien to him, and which he, which he will not follow, because it is for him elite is one thing and for the rest on another. now, if we are talking about the oral principles of the ukrainian elite, if they are at all, this is the problem, the main state, ukraine over the past 30 years, that there are no people there who are responsible for their own people, they don’t give a damn. they're all on it everyone wanted absolutely about it, by the way, the arrest officer said that all of ukraine remembered danilka in detail, we remembered let's show it, then, because sociology is ukrainian. they are the figure that will be discussed in the next story. she says, just that tolerance is the same kgbt, it, of course, has slightly increased, but there it is still very far from the european level, but let's start. we did not end with
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danilka, but ended with it. last tuesday , austrian unconventional combat singer conchita wurst dedicated, well, or dedicated to fighters, banned in russia, the national battalion azov, the hit song of his own composition is called arise, as the phoenix composition sounded as part of a tv marathon supporting ukraine dedicated to granting the country the status of a candidate for joining the eu and asked the sun you, this song is dedicated specifically to the azov battalion with wishes to the brothers. rise like a phoenix however, not everyone in ukraine shares the tolerant european ones. venya a month ago in kiev canceled the so -called march of equality lgbt march was scheduled for june 25, but away from sin moved to warsaw, apparently because of a russian special operation, but in reality, worrying about how something might not work out. and the other day , adviser to the ukrainian president
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aleksey arrestovich demonstrated not at all european values. in one of my streams. he spoke about the true attitude towards lgbt people well, i have said many times and i will not hide lgbt people, i treat them as people with the nineteenth, that is, deviations from the norm of behavior. uh, i'm a conservative in this sense, it's another matter that i'm definitely against their persecution. so i'm related to ldpt i’m fine with lgbt propaganda, i’m against the early ones, i strongly reject it absolutely for this, arrestovich , known in certain circles, as lucy, was criticized by these very circles and the lgbt community has demanded to fire the politician for homophobia. to do this, they even launched the corresponding hashtag on twitter. the problem is that in their views , the arrest officer in ukraine is not alone. according to a survey by the kiev international institute of sociology since 2016, the number of those who have a bad attitude towards lgbt people has decreased from 60% to 40, but these numbers are still oh, how far from european. zelensky's homophobia is evidence of a divided ukraine country is questioning the values cherished by western
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europe debates on lgbt rights are running into divisions in ukrainian society, as in many post-soviet countries. this is one of the arguments against eu membership - this will lead to the imposition of social norms that are not accepted by the majority of alexander yuryevich whether ukrainian society is ready. they are not ready for these european values. i looked that's all and even our discussion through the eyes of a man, uh, and from the pmc wagner which hour cleans up another settlement. uh, you know our coded moron is bent into an armful. get ready to deliver his final blow. he says a second i have to repeat the poem that i need at school tomorrow. what we are talking about? here we are talking about what this ratification will be included in the list of laws that will be canceled in accordance with the denocification process. uh, after the end
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of our operation, i quote everything. patrushevo, all the legislation of ukraine over the past 30 years will be combed and smoothed everything that is connected with deviant behavior rare with the help i agree with sostovich. and all this will be cleaned and cleaned and it would be those who are like human rights. what is well, these rights have their own what rights they will have normal human rights no, they do not want normal, they want their own problems. this right is exactly how we want to kill ourselves. coming out of the hole to kill yourself and tell me how good it is on the lips on the hands sit in your hole. when you want to get out into the street pinch the tail right away, well normal no. yeah, by the way, uh, cry about us
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not offering anything. we just offer a normal society in big letters. this one, i offered them already spent enough to offer already guns, they say they offer something. not even in this we offer them, but normally said relationship. alexey says. and it could be better now , first nikolai igorievich, after all, as if a human rights person. well, yes, yes, yes, alexandrovich’s forecasts, as you like or can scare it seems that the more russian media there are such speeches as alexander yuryevich's the more we consolidate, the ukrainian state, so that the ukrainian citizens of ukraine so that they don’t understand why you are listening, today you don’t like one group, tomorrow you don’t like another group. maybe we are better off really in europe where it is at least safer.
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and that's all, well, someone likes to finish, but he listens, who doesn't like the value in what you want to take into account. well listen. well no if you want, don’t listen, in general, it’s just very similar to the fact that tomorrow i’ll end listening to i don’t know someone leps so listen to everything. alexander yuryevich in turn, you can’t hear anything, right? it turns out, and which, it seems to me, needs to be so attractive, i especially want people themselves to want everything in russia so that people live long, so that education is good, and now we are moving exactly in the opposite direction, i say when we are talking about some kind of freedoms here in europe in its own way. well, what are we hypocrisy, the problem is not in
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that you can say that you like what is right, so if you go out publicly say that you don’t like her, they will start to change you. if you start to say, say that you don’t really like sex change, children of 6 years old will start you from me, because they will find you a racist gamophobe, and all the same measures of aggression will be applied to you. it doesn't need to be written anywhere. here again, the recall of history, which for a while, but for the western layman, all ukrainian events were obscured, er, a divorce. johnny depp and amber heard yes, that's a long story was there for several weeks, as it all happened first, so the scoundrel said. uh, the drunk beats his unfortunate wife, which began to happen with johnny depp, he is thrown out of a whole series of the project's film. yes, it means that he loses a huge amount of money there, yes, yes, yes. this is the end
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of the trial, which admits that he is crawling a victim of slander. well, he also has to pay something there, but the main culprit of this whole story is amber heard. so she must be there a bunch million dollars, what's happening now is being cut from the new. it's not written anywhere . it's not spelled out. what happens the way andrei nikolayevich says and that's it, and what does he talk about? yes, it allows us to hope that we will be able to formulate a healthy model of some kind of non- smoker. do you understand? it is clear that there are excesses, but do they really want europe and finish miles. you think, no, sons, they want to drink it then, because just don’t tell me about excellent medicine, about taxes. i do not need tell. it stops obviously better, of course
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, lord, but it's true, so it must be admitted to deny it. it’s criminally wrong, so to speak, and hurts themselves. alexey says that now they want to go to europe, yes, come on, seriously, how i’m from europe yes and why do they not want russia because they know, but the news is russian how many people left from behind recent months? please tell me how many left, please. well, how many have left for russia, how many have left now, at first they say, there is such a figure of 2 million. and what if there six, you know, like europeans, everyone wants it and that's it. well, too, and he also wants to be russia why, of course, they don't want to, because they know the news, but russian courts, because they know the news about russian style add more. they know the step,
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yes, but then you understand, yes, of course, andreevich , of course, this is infinity, my master sytin about yalta, so that he says nothing more terrible in the world than yalta i say, we are with you in different yachts level life. that's all, well, of course there is no russia, nothing at all roads, no hotels, no cars, everyone knows that. okay, he doesn’t tell you, it’s you who are talking about what i’m talking about. come on, there is an opportunity to create a model that will deny, but the beard says to women, there is no place in this model, only bearded men are quiet, mother their country. it is true very good to say that everything is very good wonderful. and pour shit over the milk. this is also very short, firstly, what
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aleksey gennadievich was talking about. the fact is that this is not a model; the citizens of ukraine really believe that here in europe, which is very different. i have relatives in europe. it is very different medicine in latvia, disgusting and scary, expensive in britain. maybe it is better, but also expensive . for good service. so, europe yes , ukrainians, citizens of ukraine, believe in a myth, into which they hammered a long emphasis on the media , like that young man who believed that we would sign an association agreement, and we would immediately be happy. this is a myth, we do not create a myth for the citizens of ukraine, but we also have a model we have our own stop and now we will sum up the conversation. 20 years ago, a heartbroken husband returned home and told his wife that their three-year-old son had been stolen and conditionally said that the woman took the child away. i tried to call, but, unfortunately, half of these devices did not even work. they searched for andryusha demchenko from kurgan all over the country, and his parents suspected of murder; their
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meeting place so what kind of model we need to offer ukrainians to dispel this myth about the fact that in europe there is paradise on earth, it is much better there than we need to debunk, because our model is in the crimea. i didn’t see something that she left without people from there. and the fact that we are talking about the model. which. well, where will you go to europe as a tourist or an emigrant? well, it’s not the ukrainians themselves who are not very happy, and in ukraine there will be no european model either in 10 or 15 days, in 25 years, at least in the territory that, god forbid, remains under the control of the zelensky regime andrey vladimirovich i i think that our model will be incorporated. in the whole structure of the special operation in a clearer way. you can explain to me. let's win, build a new model ukraine i don't know the answer, that's why i'm aleksey alekseevich our warriors, right now every day they prove that our model is better, because they
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show mercy to our mobilized soldiers, kill and torture, and their soldiers are fed by the poet dress. this model of christian mercy will win. in the end, good will triumph over evil. so vladimir viktorovich their mythology can be defeat only our mythology, but with this we have a big problem. we even formulate our own model. can not. they are all clear. it is clear either liberte galite in kataretel freedom equality of brotherhood, even if it is a myth, but this is a myth that is led to . we are nothing even for a person or death. well, why is bogdan anatolyevich so i think that i agree with vladimir viktorovich in order to defeat someone else's myth, you need to create your own only here uh, young professionals, uh, literate people, and we need means of conveying this myth. even if we create some kind of image, how will we convey it to the
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citizens of ukraine technically, but many of them even your programs cannot watch how they even find out about it so alexander yurievich first, do not bathe and break your brains. uh, millions of ukrainians before the fourteenth year, millions of ukrainians moved to russia. after the fourteenth year, millions also moved to russia after february 24, 2022, it is necessary in order to to lure them away from europe, open a giant five-story supermarket selling lace panties in moscow. this is the first. eh, a dream. they will be sold here and our panties are better than european panties, and the second is our tanks on khreshchatyk - this is the best argument for everything that was gmo live panties, if possible a european model, and what does it offer ours. you have to know certain laws for russia before us, in order to match our european telephone and head and laws and finances, whatever. we can offer a simpler concept.
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you can be who you are if you are with us looking for a criminal project, as we want it to be. bearded women talked a lot. i'm tired of giving me about them this week. i’ll just tell you an anecdote where the beard appears, and it’s of great importance, uh, well, yes, bygone days, the exam at the university, the admissions committee hears an applicant a young jewish guy and thinks how to fill him up because of nationality. please tell me, how can you explain that leo tolstoy remembered himself as a forty-day-old guy says, yes, nothing surprising, i remember myself with the age of 8 days. what do you remember? well, i remember that such a grandfather with a big big beard came and cut me off, as i understand it, the possibilities of entering the university. it was the meeting place that changed. it is forbidden. we meet at 14:00 on weekdays on ntv
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