tv Mesto vstrechi NTV August 15, 2022 2:00pm-4:00pm MSK
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you are trying to shift the blame from the aggressor to the victim about this today in our program. hello , is this the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear? i'm andrey norkin. my colleague is ivan trushkin. our program is returning to the live broadcast vacation is over, of course, all the impressions really want to talk about everything, but i think that we will do it. how generous, right? when there will be some kind of correct pretext , an occasion to share some impression, because while we were resting. that's for these four weeks continued and our special military operation. by the way, here are your first impressions, perhaps. i live here at home, uh, in the klyazma area. well, it's relatively close to sheremetyevo airport, so every day i see a huge number of planes that land or take off from sheremetyevo in crimea over these 4 weeks. naturally, i didn’t see a single civilian
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aircraft, because the airport was closed, but constantly in the sky there were combat aviation attack aircraft, fighter helicopters, and along almost all crimean cities. well, at least those that i traveled around can see how warships passed from time to time. this is, of course, such an experience, very unusual for me, but as for the special operation itself, the armed forces of the russian federation, units of the luhansk and donetsk people's republics continue to work according to plan, freeing more and more settlements , including extremely important now let's talk about this in a little more detail, as for the kiev authorities, they also have not yet change. this is a tactic of terror and intimidation of the civilian population. well, blackmail and begging. there is something from western partners hope to receive some additional military assistance. let's start with the most, probably the most difficult moment, because it has passed. that's still quite a long period of time 4 weeks, and many people think that everything is going
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wrong, everything is going too slowly. it would have to be somehow. well, that is, you remember, we left this vacation exactly, with the same question. let's, we'll start with him again, and right here in the very in the beginning, i will tell you about that settlement, which is extremely, uh, it was important to liberate, and it has already been liberated. last saturday, the russian military took control. strategically important, the village of sands in the dpr for the last 7 years, it has been a fortified area of the ukrainian army. from where did the shelling of the residential quarters of donetsk, the allied forces also liberated the settlement, uds of the kharkiv region the storm of the village of new york in the gorlovka direction continues a large grouping of enemy troops, according to the people's militia of the lc. ukrainian commanders fled leaving ordinary soldiers to their fate. in addition, the ring around avdiivka is shrinking, where the ukrainian military are published in whole groups, it turns out to be men. let's go out. leave here
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right away, there were no these troubles against the backdrop of heavy losses, kiev, by tradition, resorts to the most cruel methods, from which they suffer first of all. and citizens again fell under the blows of residential areas of donetsk and gorlovka perished within a week more than 15 people, the stirol chemical plant in gorlovka also became the target of the ukrainian military. after the shelling , a warehouse on the territory of the enterprise caught fire . another target of the ukrainian military is the zaporozhye nuclear power plant in energodar, and they have been hitting it for several weeks now, and western weapons are actively used as a result of shelling the day before.
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accident experts said. at any of these facilities , the problem of big trouble can lead to a major man-made disaster. let's divide this piece into two parts at once, and a little later we will remember the zaporizhzhya nuclear and kakhovka hydroelectric power stations, a-and konstantin valentinovich well, it’s clear that i had a lot of different conversations, because people approached me on the streets. well , almost everyone had the same question. why are shellings of donetsk and donetsk suburbs still going on? well, i somehow try to rely on your clarification on the clarification of alexander yuryevich, but somehow i tried to explain this point of view to people, well, what is the difficulty, how much the situation can change after petsky came under our control, that you shake your heads, so uh- e must be borne in mind that
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the principle of building a defense system. e, su. e to build again on the use of the so-called strongholds that are built in settlements , which means, uh, organized between them. fire interaction plus mobile groups, which, uh, where it is, may be fighting , that is, the central node is these very strongholds. this means that now their line of defense is passing, fortified, conscious for 8 years. that's all i'm there. you say, that's the very beginning of the brand was e in the girl went up there. eh, solidarity. here are these here in new york, here are these knots, then, if you look, then take the sands, if anything, well, how is the tactical defense zone of the so-called e broken through, then
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the defense system of the line, marinka and gays. broken gap. now, of course. that's why it's a special issue to take in a gay woman, because there are already worn points there. they are small, there are very serious defenses. it is possible to create an encirclement, but at the same time, we must understand that our task is to exclude the loss of civilians and our troops. i understand everything, the number of shelling that they fired from here, but in theory, it should decrease, alexandrovich, you’re somehow one point yes, well, what is minus one point look, i’m very short, because i answer 128 times for 8 years. uh, until the special, military, operation sands began. avdiivka marinka were fundamentally important in terms of shelling, because the ukrainian side, at the very least, tried to comply with minsk, they fired mortars at donetsk at that
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time from artillery. it was a scandal. now and this is the distance of the mortar, but this is a short distance. they even stand on the border of the petrovsky district, in fact, the petrovsky district. they fired from there all the time. then. wait now maybe i'll then wait maybe i'm overestimating the importance of this event then. look, when i told you, it's very important. yes, as for taking the sand. that's right, konstantin began this complex understanding should be in terms of shelling. donetsk they have artillery. now, at 60-70 km from the avdiivka border to donetsk, 10 sands are actually right as it ends. yes, no, it ends, that is, the sides, therefore, they can shoot from kurakhov with iso mouths, this is less than 50 km, and that is, pokrovska, 70 how many are they once donetsk said a symbol for them, they will be here if they find something with which they will shoot at
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donetsk, because it’s good for a few bones in the throat. do you know? it is here that you need to look at the economy, because if you take the largest one there, if the nuclear power plant zaporizhzhya is 20-25% of ukraine's electricity, then there, which was the starobeshevskaya kurakhovskaya. here is one of them too the largest in europe that is, if this energy complex, i just studied it very deeply. this is thermal energy. there is a very large very stronger. i understand. now do not excuse that, despite the fact that the zaporozhye nuclear power plant is under our control. there our military continues to press the ukrainian energy. and how can you explain then the attempts? e ukrainian apu hmm to bomb? don't listen, it's obvious. it's
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politics here, economics here. no, they will break this situation, they will start saving themselves, so they will become in this case for ukraine it is pure politics. they will understand that they are losing these territories. they are losing this energy thermal nuclear resource, and then they will understand that it will not work for me the day before, that's all. yes, the ukrainian armed forces is not to create some kind of big nuclear catastrophe, but simply to create some kind of misunderstanding of excitement among the europeans, and so on, in order to put more pressure on russia to try to conduct some kind of peacekeeping, listen. you just, when people in my understanding. this logic does not work yet. why when you shoot at a nuclear power plant? you cannot guarantee that this one particular projectile will not lead to some irreparable consequences. in fact, these options are not considered in ukraine. let's be frank and say that they are doing something for the europeans, but i have even had a discussion with you , it is not the ukrainian side that makes these decisions. once again they said so far. if there is a
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will that the west is not tired of ukraine the west will continue to pump its weapons, it will create conditions for the destruction of infrastructure. first of all, i emphasize energy ukraine. it 's not in vain that andrey vladimirovich asked a question. it 's about economics. you say military. for now, i’m talking about the economy , the nuclear power plant will be closed and restored. that is, before the fall and winter, these will be big problems for ukraine and for russia itself, too, because it either needs to be turned on there. they also included the system of ukraine and kherson and zaporozhye region. and the nikolaev region. and donetsk luhansk this is a whole energy complex, despite the fact that they were separated. this is from economic geography. clean model. it was created for all this, you argue eugene georgichesky with such an economic one. here are the points of view. i reason in the understanding that there is no terrorist regime. wait, i don't understand one thing. here alexander yuryevich says that shelling near donetsk donetsk is a symbol, so you need to shell it, okay, why
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shoot at a nuclear power plant? uh, risking in general, i have now promised konstantin valentinovich. yes, there is a whole complex at once, starting with the uh operational and ending with the geopolitical. interests, well, it means that the first level is the maintenance of the zaporizhzhya npp in a tense state, the operational complex is pulling away a significant resource of forces to cover the threat of a terrorist attack now, the threat of shelling, this is in line with the anti-terrorist defense perimeter, this is a significant force. these are the air defense defense forces about which they should cover from this order once a second moment in these conditions threat. uh, so, uh, the zaporozhye npp naturally arises, the decision to move the troops is high, as far as possible. here the zaporizhzhya npp means the calculation of the ukrainian side that there will be redistribution forces for operations in the southern direction of zaporozhye
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and the pressure on key objects is reduced, this axis, which we we have just considered the dispersal of our forces in the donbass, the decrease in efficiency. this is the operating block. this means that the economic bloc was characterized, and i will not repeat it. what i will add next itself, that this is the most difficult problem, uh, concerning issues means the restoration of the same mariupol, many other geopolitical bloc means, uh, as we know, europe is not just a sponsor of ukraine, but the main player in this war, therefore creating tension. here in this region. this is keeping the european leaders in good shape . we are concentrating on the first point, i’m talking about pulling our forces away, perhaps somewhere here. uh, yes, because we still have mr. fedorov before the holidays. everything promised some kind of counter-offensive, or in july or august. i don't know to what extent this is a
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counteroffensive of reality. the season finale itself was postponed. how is this true? hopefully it will show up soon though. and so it is located on the right bank of the dnieper. our troops are trying to cut them off. here is the supply, it really is. last month, the ukrainian army began to attack bridges across the dnieper, the goal of kiev was to block the supply of the russian army, located on the right bank of the river, on august 12, it was reported that a dam had been hit on a road bridge new kakhovka and the dubious successes of the ukrainian military. local politicians immediately reported. the russians no longer have any opportunity to fully transfer their equipment, of course, they will try to repair and look for an alternative in the crossings. but this time is money, and then as soon as they prepare and collect equipment and strength. we will destroy it again, and on the night of august 14, the ukrainian military once again damaged the antonovsky bridge in the suburbs of kherson, a simple goal
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would make it difficult to transfer russian heavy equipment and ammunition strikes captured the local inhabitants of the second earth. the antonovskiy bridge has come under fire from the ukrainian army more than once. the first reports of strikes appeared on july 19. in recent weeks, other crossings across the dnieper, the antonovsky railway bridge and the bridge in the village of daryevka, have also been shelled. they understand that ukraine is preparing for counter-offensive operations. and in this regard, they are reinforcing their groupings there, deploying battalion tactical groups. but that won't help them much. our command is south. now he is very successfully delivering artillery strikes against enemy targets, and the mythical counter-offensive on kherson was spoken in an interview with the western press by the minister of defense of ukraine oleksiy
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reznikov, then he really refuted himself in the president's office, they explained the information about the offensive in this way - this is a psychological operation against russia however, western journalists change of plan. understood so ukraine simply does not have enough resources for this offensive the washington post quotes an anonymous source in the ukrainian government. we have to be honest for now at the moment, ukraine does not have enough weapons systems for a counteroffensive. you can still achieve a result, but this is possible with the help of a smart strategy of ukraine and not confrontation with russia on an equal footing with it is very difficult to compete with konstantin vasilievich to you, according to your information, according to your assessment, based on your sources of what you know, we we don’t know this ukrainian counteroffensive, which has been talked about for so long, is it, perhaps it is being prepared or is this the very psychological struggle and it needs to be that way perceive. so let's do it like this, spread things out, which means there will be a counteroffensive or not. this is
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a purely political issue, and not a military one from a military point of view, a counter-offensive in any form. on smoking a successful counter-offensive is impossible, because a successful counter-offensive under the conditions of this enemy dominates the air information. then our space has overwhelming fire superiority - this is suicide, especially if there is not enough military equipment and weapons. now will it mean uh, if one argues in terms of, uh, the logic of operational art and strategy, it should not be. if one argues in terms of politics and the need to designate uh, it would be suicide. it doesn’t somehow stop these guys very much, so it’s important for them to indicate that they are advancing so that they again receive funds, er, equipment and everything else, that’s all. they need to bring de-
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demonstrate capacity. well, on the other hand. uh, too suicidal offensive, accompanied by monstrous losses. this discrediting this government itself on the one hand, and on the other hand. this is a rather serious weakening of the grouping of ukraine as a whole in the south-east of ukraine, and in particular at this key moment. well, yes, in the direction of donbass, because from there you will have to shoot it. where to get them. well, all the more well, there are probably skeptics sitting somewhere in ukraine who are russophobes and argue. here the propagandists are seated, imploring the possibilities of the ukrainian army. but it is not only we who say that the resources of ukraine not enough here, please, bogdan and i recently read this article. this is a stratford article. uh, it means, uh, the analytical development of the analytical company of the american stratum in the area there they write in black and white that ukraine today does not have the opportunity to turn the tide in any
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way, and then they paint, but whoever is interested, will be able to get acquainted, however, this is at the subscription with tatya, but nevertheless there right along the way. i think the results of this can be found it scattered. i published in my telegram channel, why and how is everything point by point? here this is american analytics experts, please, with regard to the situation that has developed in ukraine right now, it is really between scylla and charybdis, because on the one hand the resources are real. no, it is objectively so on the other hand not to undertake anything that is fraught with a turtle. now my colleagues have suggested to me. i didn't know it myself, i don't read it. i am ukrainian telegram channel 4 you read. i read 5 minutes a day and charge there. well, uh, so colleagues are now suggesting that ukrainian telegram channels. what they write about that it is the backers who insist on the need to carry out this counteroffensive. i mean , they say, so if you want extra weapons, we'll give them to you, but then you can show some body movements. yes? that is exactly what i understand. so, when
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i say that e oni is between strength and harito, that is, on the one hand, there is really weakness and insufficiently lack of resources on the other hand. uh, so the owners insist western colleagues. otherwise we won't give you what you're in 100% i don't quite understand. here then, damn it, wait for the sequence, if now there are no forces to conduct a counteroffensive, there are not enough ukrainians. and that would be suicide. yes, but then how to carry out this counteroffensive in order to get weapons later. i don’t quite understand how it turns out that at first you are intellectuals, commit suicide, and then we will give you something to the logic of logic, in this case, no. that is why the military people there are the same zaluzhny and so on, realizing that they want this suicide in every possible way to avoid the rights of an absolutely colleague. they are trying to imitate something to delay in every possible way the time to strike at e, at civilians on
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infrastructure and so on. well, there on the bridges, well, in every possible way, delaying not in any way, not solving their problems, but delaying this conflict interferes. really. let's call a spade a spade. it's really a thorn in the side. eh, in the finger. so in the big toe, which slows down the movement, but it shows western colleagues like , look, we're doing something. you are ready let's have more weapons, let's have more, because we are not yet ready for large-scale actions regarding the offensive or about the zaporozhye. you want to build your performance in an interconnected way. i think that this is just blackmail against russia and the european union blackmail that is calculated on the fact that with the help of international organizations of the un iaea it will be possible to hack russia in a certain way to force it to make concessions to a truce, delimitation or anything else, maybe we in the device one demetered demilitarized zone. and when it is equipped, then the second third and then a lot of other things, as for the counteroffensive, of course,
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ukraine is not capable of a counteroffensive in the sense in which we imagine it to ourselves, but to go for a local counteroffensive somewhere in some area . it can, for example, in the region of raisins , counterattacks of ukrainian troops are constantly taking place. if they borrow a few donkeys it will be used completely they cannot borrow. oh, well , a pr offensive, and weapons can also be used for this. ask money and partners will immediately give. and even the report about here won't help us. why because there are people in ukraine, and equipment and money can always be provided to them well bogdan anatolyevich, i will interrupt you now, but immediately after the next story i returned the word, because pr is not the ukrainian authorities. i don't know at what level this decision, uh, is made there. they are not only pr, of course, busy. here, in those territories that we have already liberated and where now hmm in one stage or another of activity, but preparations are underway referendums on joining russia, a real such terrorist
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company is deployed there, absolutely classic against those people who are now heads of the interim administrations. i mean, these are the locals. it wasn't some officials who came from russia. here they are trying to simply kill them, we can have this story. the liberated zaporozhye and kherson regions are actively preparing for referendums on joining russia, and the authorities of the donetsk and luhansk people's republics may follow their example. at as a possible date they call september i sign an order, the central election commission, zaporozhye region on the beginning and preparation of a referendum on the reunification of the zaporozhye region with the russian federation kivino, this was answered with terror and new shelling attempts to intimidate the population to disrupt referendums, ukrainian nationalists strike at the civilian infrastructure of kherson region, in addition, they announced plans to carry out a
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forced evacuation of residents of donetsk, kharkov, dnepropetrovsk, nikolaev and zaporizhia region, so that people do not resist and are afraid of fake russian aggression voroh russians can go on a counterattack in order to capture the entire territory of the kherson region before the referendum is held. here, there may be such a two-sided situation, either the enemy will go on the defensive, or will try to take certain counter-offensive actions in some directions, because many troops are not intended for defense, but for the offensive are transferred to the south of the country against the leaders of the liberated ukrainian territories saboteurs use openly terrorist methods. so in early august, the deputy head of the administration of nova kakhovka was shot dead in his house . the head of the provisional administration of the kherson region, volodymyr salda, was urgently hospitalized. the ukrainian press claims that he was poisoned earlier
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. in the kherson region, an underground group was uncovered, preparing the whole of syria to assassinate officials persons. we committed an assassination attempt. it was the driver who used this weapon. yes, for whom was this weapon intended for further sabotage or what else did he say the day he left said which ones to pick up and hide against this background there are calls to hold referendums in electronic format, that is, remotely, in particular, such a proposal was made by a state duma deputy from crimea mikhail sheremetiev according to him. this will help ensure the safety of citizens and will give the opportunity to vote to those residents who have left these regions. here is bogdan, comrade, again a question that i have already asked vanya more than once. again , it concerns, there is some logic there, obviously absolutely, that neither europe nor america , these referendums recognized my results. why, then they are so afraid. this decision
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of this very will of the expression of the inhabitants, well, in my opinion, it’s very simple, because this is one of the tools for integrating these territories into the russian federation. because this referendum will punish the impact, they came to those people who live there and in neighboring regions , too, when kosovo was separated, no referendums were held, in principle, these territories, and especially the territories that, say, are now part of the lugansk people's republic. they will instantly integrate no problems. no. they return to their natural environment. therefore, the fact that the russian federation has taken a course towards the integration of these territories is most frightening for both the west and ukraine in the person of kiev. i don't really understand one year they were looking for about other territories. e, but in order for these others to be conditionally there, well, let's say nikolaev, yes, but for them to announce their intention to return to russia and hold a referendum. this, of course, first we still have to take it. physically, this is nikolaev
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, of course, but here we are talking about, what is it about that russia is not going to leave just like that and is not going to use these territories as a bargaining chip. two is without a turning point, this is the point at the end, there is no point of no return, we will not leave here and bargain. for this we too we will not. we all bargain. we will be for something else for lvov exactly, i don’t know anything else with the poles there. how so moment? you have been trading with us for 8 years with the minsk agreement. here you gave back to us well by this terrorist method. i would go back for a second, because i can understand the logic of kiev when it comes to terrorist methods in relation to the territory, as well as to the citizens they consider. all of you are not cut off to break. you are all wrong, but if you listen to the head of the national security and defense council of ukraine lord danilov, he is ready to apply repressive terrorist methods to the entire population. if at least some connection with russia is noticed there, then every search for it will have the opportunity
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to check all ukrainians without exception. it would be done. as it's an issue over security, it doesn't matter where these moles are sitting. we need to find these rats and poison them and poison them so that they remain on our territory, alekseinovich, then it turns out that these terrorist methods do not work, this scheme does not work. you are now from russia, that is, we are now acting against you in this way, they are ready to act in this way against the entire population. it seems to me that all the actions that are being taken now with the west and ukraine are working against themselves , and i, so to speak, really get lost when you try to understand the motivation, the motivation of the kiev authorities, the west, and so on, but the truth is, it’s just that they harm themselves scatter petals in donetsk but this is generally, well, so to speak. well, now there is no more military sense in this. well, there's no military sense in it people get hardened to an even greater extent. so to speak, they begin to hate kiev, why do they need it, but instead of demonstrating humanism, there and so on, to withstand this wait, but
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what do you think, if they are carried out, well, i would probably say so, when the referenda will be held. well, at least in two regions and in two republics with e, an understandable result, how it will be perceived. here in those territories of ukraine where we are not yet. so to speak. so, when he began not to explain, i am so a little understood, because with the referendum - this once again emphasizes, and our hmm the difference in our intentions. and here is what, in my opinion, you talked about, when yes, that is, people need to be explained that russia is making some kind of image in the future. yes, this is the image of the future because, so to speak, i always drown for being sincere with myself. i just remember the referendum in the fourteenth year in the donbass, my relatives came to the polling station at eight in the morning. and there were some 500 there, you know, they all voted then. and so to say, we know what happened then eight years, and so to speak, their more expressions had no
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practical significance. why is this complicated political there, the topic and so on, and so i, of course, uh, hopefully. on the basis of this referendum recognized. didn't have in 8 minutes eight okay? yes, by the way, i wanted to return this is an important topic. why else? should it be carried out? yes? yes, uh, the independence of finding russia, they all of them, so to speak, have been asking for this for 30 years, but for the last 8 years they have insisted on it. nevermind. i wait there was no question of joining russia in the referendum, no, it was only independent there. yes, yes, everyone understood perfectly well that independence means, well, you kind of understand one second. look, when we say why the referendum is still important. yes indeed. nobody recognizes him, but they do not recognize him now in the entire international legal agenda. the law, like a drawbar, where you turn, so it came out.
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now they do not recognize, then it will be necessary to negotiate, they will freeze. and in general, alexei , it is generally important for us that these beautiful ours are so called former partners. something we recognized there is a referendum. we make it so that people themselves there on the ground and here in russia can see how things are and what desires people have, all of us are an external reaction beyond uh, borders that are not really interested, you are interested in people on the moon we are surrounded by people we are still with them . uh, we are still trading, so to speak, we are selling gas to you - it's all the same for rubles life. she still continues. excuse me , this is starting to burst. we're moving on. these are the last weeks of vacation we went to bolshoi canyon of crimea it's been there for 10 hours, we climbed there along this mountain river there, this is not about that, we are going back. and well, this is the bakhchisaray district. that is, in general, this is practically the heart of crimea to the middle. suddenly i see that a volkswagen minivan with estonian numbers is driving in front
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of me, and i was in such a good, dashing mood. but no. well, i climbed into this bath when i was young. i have four or five degrees there, the water is bursting me, and i, therefore, see and say, listen to the guys, well, those are the same, and let's stop. let's give cut it. no, let's give it to him, so it's not there, that he drives here, you understand? well, this is a joke, of course. no. i mean, anyway, people make their way there, so one man told me an acquaintance from kharkov arrived. you know how they drove, they came to the crimea in a car, now i remember they left for poland. yeah, later. no-no-no through a. they, in my opinion, through oni through finland, that is, apparently on the threshold of finland then, in general, it turned out for them despite the fact that from kharkov to crimea there is a little more than 700 in a straight line. five and a half thousands of kilometers they traveled to get to the crimea, people really wanted to. they really wanted it, no matter, apparently, a referendum. that is,
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here are some people after some time anyway they will return. here's to this normal vision of the world. although maybe, i just don’t say it myself, it did n’t come out, the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant and the sands, but listen to people’s questions, they, of course, are quite natural, it’s been going on for six months, a special military operation about sand 10 km from donetsk is true, but we are in the first day we reached kiev on february 28 the zaporizhzhya npp was taken. alexey, you are just confusing everyone again. so here i am, together with you, offering maximum effort. here sivkov and kazakov explain all this to us. and you seem to have not heard our questions or answers, and again there is a feeling. yes? yes, no, well, i heard everything nosta is not satisfied. you see, of course, they are not satisfied. no, changing the answers is not satisfactory. and i, frankly, say so. i think that if the beginning of the special operation was a little different, why do people have such an expectation, because
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indeed, the beginning was very intense, but all 24. we were near kiev and from here. many people there had their own expectations. and, while others, on the contrary, have some fears of their own, delusions, fears, and so on. here, in order to grind it was in order to deprive uh of the opportunity, we didn’t even need it, we received any sanctions that we received, four packages were prepared per hour. they are already working. i think not. i think there is. let's from the very beginning, if everything was within the framework of the donetsk luhansk authorities, if aleksey gennadyevich understood, he would understand everything, i wanted to return to the discussion about, uh, do we need the reaction of the west or not? you know the referendum. well yes, the longer i watch the situation. more i come to her no. by the way, i agree with my colleague that we do not think of the current situation as a break in relations forever and the point of no return
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has been passed. we think of the current situation. like the beginning of a new chapter and beyond. it will be written jointly. and uh, you see, everything flows, everything changes, including in the west and in this the new head of the most powerful argument, the people self-determined, as it was in the crimea, we absolutely need it, and we need it and we also need it. although our european colleagues will never admit this to the americans, who will later be forced to explain to their people, maybe wait, none of us will lift the sanctions, maybe i really somehow persuade myself. let's, let's make 45 years. yes , we will live happily ever after. let's take a little break now and come back to this reaction. and the west on one very an eloquent example is literally there this week everything happened last week.
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becomes clear and we continue. here is literally one more episode of the continuation of the topic that we touched on about the international reaction. here is the organization international published a few days ago. well, there may be a little more than a week ’s report, in which it’s not that it’s directly accused of jamming, but it points to the facts of ukraine’s violation of the rules of warfare, what exactly they wrote, they wrote that the ukrainian armed forces are deploying, including there artillery guns and tanks in residential areas in schools. yes hide international has apologized for its own report. and now, in general, as far as i understand, they will rewrite it. give us a short story on the international crimes of the ukrainian military against civilians, independent experts will check that the report was allegedly prepared insufficiently
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correctly and without the proper context of one of its most important aggressions against the civilian accusations of those. we want to understand what exactly went wrong and why, in order to extract lessons and improve our work in the field of human rights in our report. russian aggression was not given due attention in violation of international law and the numerous war crimes committed by the russian military due to the documented anti- internationalism in the original document , human rights activists told how ukraine hides behind the civilian population, like a human shield, and places military equipment in schools, kindergartens and hospitals scary in kiev. the minister of foreign affairs was offended. kuleba, accused human rights activists of intending to disrupt supplies weapons did not remain silent, and about president zelensky , we saw today a completely different amnesty of the international, which, unfortunately, is trying to amnesty the power of the terrorist and shift the blame from the aggressor to the victim. and if someone makes a report
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in which victims and aggression seem to be the same in some way, if some data is analyzed, and the victim. and what the aggressor was doing at that time and that cannot be put up with, the british times called the organization of amnesty international quote putin's propaganda mouthpiece. however, american journalists. now they are hinting to zelensky that he needs to restore order in the army and learn to admit his own mistakes. zelensky should admit that even heroic defenders are capable of making a mistake instead of blaming a human rights organization, maintaining public support for ukraine requires a constructive response to criticism from authoritative human rights organizations, and not trying to silence them or discredit their conclusions. even in spite of this passage from the politician's building. it turns out that while i am myself i’m deceiving when i say that sooner or later all people return to a normal vision of the world, until it happens, but there is a struggle, you understand
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that now the international is together and broken on the knee does not cancel the fact that this report was written. and so, as there is international ne e sovereign yes, an organization of extreme dependence and they do it to a spider. that is, we can assume that it was written. not just not for zafira yes, not in order to clarify some details, but because really there are forces that will need these arguments in the future, they really appear that way . i have the whole watch. and let's like this, but they know well how they are russia for a second. here you said abbas additional arguments. yes, you understand that, yes, the sands that were bursting in donetsk when the ukrainian army launched shells that russians howled anti-move mines in the donetsk environs. this is an absolutely terrorist story. why is it terrorist directed exclusively against civilians, such a mine will not work, because
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such a mine will not do anything to an armored vehicle. she hits the kids. she hits on the women on the old men who just didn't look where they're going, yeah. in recent weeks, the ukrainian armed forces have been actively shelling civilian targets in the donbass with prohibited shells with anti-personnel mines petal, over 40 civilians were blown up on the petals in the dpr in 2 weeks of august. so last week, a fifteen-year-old teenager from donetsk stepped on one of these mines, doctors did everything possible to save the boy leg, but as local journalists report, he will still remain disabled, but he is nowhere else. yes, this was blown up. well, there, i'm telling you, he's there, how old are you, 15. we'll bandage him now. now we’ll move the car, and we ’ll do everything concretely there, a significant part of the explosions occurred in donetsk, mines end up on sidewalks and lawns near residential buildings and you won’t immediately notice them,
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a resident, svetlodar lost her foot when she just went out into the yard. well, people walk in the yard, children walk on the street, everyone except you, there could the child turns out to be any person. i could walk in italian, that in general doctors say how it will be, then the whole situation with you, what they say you will have to make a prosthesis the russian foreign ministry emphasizes the shelling of civilian objects in the donbass is disgusting this is a violation of humanitarian law in the dpr, the actions of the ukrainian army were called a cynical terrorist act practically . new ones come in every day, victims, this item was developed by engineers in order to make a person crippled. not even to kill a person, but worse cripple. it tears tissue, destroys the bones, and
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it turns out, that is, patients are brought to us already with amputated limbs with a limb detached . we understand that it is not worth operating on him, in general, in the charter he is not with the international, this is a donation from individuals who stand outside political , religious and some kind of beliefs, but in fact, supposedly, yes, but if you look at who it was behind, if you look, this is transport, there is still some question of finding out that relations between representatives of various political clans , let's say soros, as a word as one of the options and other defendants in this political struggle, and here russia and ukraine and human sacrifices this is morality, which we are talking about here. here they solve their uh, distant geopolitical tasks, including i believe that this report is more for a western audience by and large. we appeal to them in vain, because, in this case, they
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solve their tasks. this is more of a political game, which is aimed at resolving relationships within the ruling elite. uh, the same republicans, also depar and so on a similar vision. i once said that this cannot be called military action, because it's uh, these petals are scattered rain on our positions. they are here on the playgrounds sooner or later , someone will pay attention to this, or is it no one in donetsk who understands, as you understand, if anyone has seen donetsk under shelling now, so i want to say there have never been such arrivals and when they fly, let's say in our fences. it's noisy. and when the americans fly, it’s quiet, but the earth trembles the same way, and what hasn’t happened since the fifteenth year is arrivals in the center of the year, which continue to this day and sasha, in my opinion, or a colleague said correctly that uh, 50- 60 km they want from this from kramatorsk to beat and the whole task is that they beat like heavy, they beat with this and questions regarding the fact that there will be some kind of morality put on them. i would not,
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if we have already, uh, made some conclusions for ourselves, then do not look for it, there is a rally for it. there's just no morality to say that there is from the side, which is from the side. whether we want to generate to them or not, we don’t need to motivate , we don’t need to introduce a simple idea that we don’t have to operate on them, and how they don’t think and won’t. we are targets for them. we are game for them, they will create solutions. i am trying to convey to you a simple thought that it is you with the international that it is not for us, and not for solving our own bomb bomb bomb. as they say alexandrovich, i would from your permission to rewind the film a little more. uh, because probably many viewers. we confused them a little, when the questions went to the already answered answers. i said in this studio, er, more than a month ago, that there will be no counteroffensive in the kherson region, and even more than once, and i even said where it is most likely to be, but it is most
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likely to be, because they have no way out, and they have an order to go somewhere, it was already correct to have been named the direction they had until the last moment. i said it here too. that's just now this possibility has been cancelled. they had the possibility of a counteroffensive into donetsk right into the city just from avdiivka sand and marinka. that would be hell. it was a real hell for us, this may have been stopped now. that is, only kharkov remains. there are reasonable grounds. once again, when we talk about the fact that they were furious. yes, they didn’t get mad, but the animals, right? but logic does not go anywhere in military logic. there is a sense of an offensive from their side and to the north of their e. north of kharkov to cut our communications, and this has military logic, because they leave our grouping, which is pressing on the north to the slavic, kramatorsk in the izyum direction, they are doing these attempts correctly, but kherson
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. we remember we said month after month that we would not storm the avdeevskaya sands, because we feel sorry for our guys berezhok personnel. what suddenly went something? yes, because ukrainians deceived themselves with this kherson direction. we have information from the ukrainian side. they really counted. uh, more precisely, artillery was thrown in the direction of nikolaev, and ours said we, uh. yeah, we're working on them. we have a standard to escape. we had time to come. no, there was less artillery there, gaps appeared. an opportunity arose. it was a strategic game that we won at this particular stage. uh, you are right about the referendum, but the whole story with the counter-offensive is also under a referendum, all this
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hype, all this heather who says take away children. run. this is the same as the shelling because of the eu, the whole story with the counterattack, but they tried to do it, and i said a thousand times, follow the official information carefully, there is a huge amount of e information to understand the situation. while i was on vacation, i did a little little work on purpose better. wow , it took half an hour. it’s just that when we once again started talking about the counter-offensive, near kherson, i opened the map, firstly, and looked where it was possible at all, such a direct offensive history under davydov ford. looked three were attempts. they lost 450,200 there in three attempts, and then we open the reports of lieutenant general kanashenko, and you see that during these attempts we work out with long-range strikes not davydov's ford, but birch wood, look where it is and you are their operational rear. they're trying to
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get in here. and we are depriving them of reserves there and starting somewhere from uh, from the twenty-second to the twenty-third of july day after day. watch the briefings day by day and work on nikolaev nikolay in the steppe. there is nowhere to hide reserves only in the city when we hit the vegetable base, because there is like, that's what , uh, what distinguishes uh, absolutely confidence. uh, the meeting place program from the work of uh socio-political shows here are our colleagues, even when we go on vacation, our experts continue to work from closed out without any irony said. eh, sincere. thank you, this is our big plus. now let's pause for a few minutes and continue. the mother of seven children demanded alimony from her ex-husband. he last gave 900 rub. and then, as you remember now, for 10 rubles. iron
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a supermarket, when our citizens are completely denied entry to europe, this is also ours, that is, the war of the european union, and what the west is trying to achieve with such measures should change come from those who? about it right now. this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. we continue. let's talk a little more about western reaction to all these events, in order to gradually move on to another topic a little bit, and since europe has practically exhausted the sanctions resource against our country, but in general, they themselves admit it, they talk about it, and there new ideas appear. uh, original means one of the latest and really original ideas is to ban russian citizens. they just get a schengen visa, and prohibit russian citizens who already have a schengen visa in europe
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, e, to move to enter certain countries. and well, let's first see how serious a threat it is to us. there is a saying about the fact that you don’t have to scare the hedgehog, there is something, bare places, bare, yes, sometimes wires antonwich, if the word bare causes the only association in you. water, i sincerely sympathize with my associations, others are more interesting. so statistics. give us, please, so that kharchenko does not distract us. here, look at this in the public opinion fund and interfax , it turns out that 69% of our citizens never only 2% did not rest abroad, and russians over the past year. e traveled e, outside the country. and if we talk about applications for a schengen visa, then in 2021, 500,000 applications were submitted in total for everything, that is, i still don’t quite understand how this proposal should. to excite the russian
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public, and it is clear that the idea is aimed precisely at this so that the russians here begin to somehow buzz now. let's see the plot. with a call to stop issuing schengen visas to russians last week in an interview with american vladimir zelensky spoke to reporters. the idea was quickly picked up in the united states by the former american ambassador to moscow, michael mcfull, who gave out his creative. he proposes to take from the russians, an additional visa fee, which will go to the restoration of ukraine, every russian citizen who receives a visa to travel to a free country must pay a tax or an additional fee. the funds received from these special taxes or fees should then be transferred to the fund for the reconstruction of ukraine first the balts of estonia declared a visa war with on thursday, it closes its borders for russians with schengen visas already issued by this side, while finland announced visa restrictions last weekend, and finland decided to
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issue tourist documents to russians only on mondays in order to slow down the process of issuing them, but lithuania offers the most radical option there on the eve called on all schengen participants. stop extradition from russians, including. representatives of the russian opposition, the idea has already been supported by poland, the czech republic and denmark, people from the country that is waging war can still freely travel and enjoy all the amenities of the free world, then adheres to democratic values, even if in russia there were 5-10% of people opposed to the war, then we would already be talking about millions of people. do you want these millions to be inside russia or outside it? changes come from within a complete ban on the issuance of schengen visas to russians, the eu foreign ministers will discuss this item in the next sanctions packages at the end of august. such prospects are very pleasing to the ukrainian the president of europe cannot turn europe into
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a supermarket in which it doesn’t matter who comes in and the main thing is that a person simply pays for the goods to that person, therefore visa restrictions for russian citizens are justified by all the defenders of the euro. to values must insist on them. well , in fairness, it must be said that while not all defenders of european values are ready to insist on this, some of the baltic politicians are there. they even say that this is a little reminiscent of dementia, and the proposal, but i don’t know, is weak. they have courage in me. yes, they go together, against whom calculated. here is the world. what do you think vladimirovich is designed for everyone, but now i’ll just explain, and not russia is considered as a pressure cooker. yes, that is, what are we talking about there inside russia, but yes, there was an explosion, excessive pressure, as a result of which it was impossible to press the valve, there was always one. no, this is sheremetyeva domodedovo vnukovo. this is a valve there that would slightly press to bleed. people
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scattered somewhere. all if, in their opinion, cover this frying pan tightly and do not bleed the valve. that sooner or later you must come back. well, i'm a little exaggerated, but the third russian citizens did not leave, did not go abroad to rest. it 's true, so for them it's, well, back to the revolutionary masses, then it remains that 10% is literally needed there. uh, here are those most active people, in order to accomplish a great deal, a coup, for example, a state coup is not so much, these 70% are conditional silent-silent people, this is the development of the population. do you really think that people who will not be given now, then schengen visa, and they did not go then it or you explain this logic, what is good for these people who will not be given such an opportunity. i can say too. because if you talk to me closely with them, they are upset, terribly. they are upset next to the address. here in those very, european politicians who offer this, they twist at the
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whiskey and say, idiots. what are you doing about them, what are you upset about that they get in the wrong world. eh, smear, or what? no, they are upset that this is absolutely such soviet logic. let's, we'll put up an iron curtain and make it bad for them or, uh, make it so that people can't get out of him again. i just didn’t hear that 10% of the entire population would travel to europe, but to rest in europe, nevertheless, 10%, it seems, 10% more to rest. nobody is traveling with us. this is, firstly, and secondly, the valve is like if we continue this analogy, it has already been pressed a button for a long time. yes, and a few more times everything has already left. most aggressive. it's all gone pretty much already. further he really. to me i think this is soviet thinking. and, for example, i see mainly such assessments, just in the baltic states and post-soviet countries. they themselves, according to
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their own logic, think that this is the most terrible punishment for i don’t know the citizens of russia, if you don’t go somewhere there, it’s impossible. yes? remember this lady, who is now the current german defense minister who first said it is necessary to deprive putin of the possibility of russian fields. yes, i don’t know putin where exactly the champs elysees are selling some problems, they absolutely don’t have to go there, and then most of our people, like me i imagine our people go to the bakery in a taxi , too, nothing further south our people drive cars, it was more like a place where they wanted to buy something. they, apparently, represent us in this way and may not be europeans in everything. here are the ones that this idea has now visited. right because, well, the news really banged and some of the brightest representatives of this ours, or how to call it, the liberal opposition community. they were
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serious, yes, the freedom of the beloved public. they were seriously annoyed by this news of all those who now really destroys the monolithicity of the accursed monolithicity of this regime with their fearlessness, their consistency, their actions. yes, they are waiting for us there, zelensky would have to know about it. he doesn't see much difference between us. that's why i asked vladimir viktorovich what these people are offended by, that you see them smeared all the same with the wrong world, they don't make a difference between them between good and bad. can i give a few examples now leonid volkov is a foreign agent, who worked for mr. navalny for a long time. now he is on the run in europe. here is his point of view on this initiative, see what he says, if the russians cannot travel to europe then they will overthrow putin and answer for himself. no
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, this is some kind of extreme stupidity, or, uh, julia the latin. eh, they have nights to be remembered. let's quote. she, too, is now visiting us, and in this initiative, she is afraid that they will return her back, she will be forced to return to russia, again she quotes. that's what's disgusting is the attempt. here, what is disgusting is an attempt by representatives, ugh, here are the writers. magnificent from here, what is disgusting is an attempt to present a cannibalistic deportation, as we simply do not give about putin's. uh, about putin's tourists. you can not give visas to tourists, and they are all to blame for not drilling the way. well, here it should be noted that this is zelensky’s statement, zelensky’s call, which was picked up by the leaders of the baltic states. it's probably exciting in the first place. the freedom of the people who went and are now serving time in europe and here tatyana tolstaya is a writer who seems to be also like freedom-loving, but she does not sit out in europe.
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she stays for a long time. yes she is thinking she is in russia and she is. actually everyone. i explained to those who were frightened what fascism really is, i will also quote here, which means that fascism writes to us, my fat children never bomb bomb badly with any ideological lining and layout, fascism is when you believe that there are people of the first and second grade and ethnic groups of the nation of the country good and bad important and unimportant. well after that how tatyana nikitichna wrote all this. of course , the commentators tried something on her such an interactive panama hat, but they accused her of treason and support of the russian authorities to cram her. i have only one such statement. yes, tolstoy writes superiority over little people in the post itself, what makes the author close to the kremlin party. well actually antonch, we're watching here. the split of freethinking and freedom or not watching freedom, beloved people took it all so sharply negatively, because this braid can
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to touch and touch them not because it concerns some kind of vanya pupkin who rides to europe to see something, because he himself is now in europe and he thinks he will be embroidered from there or not sent out or get out of europe from europe from europe, that is, either he understands that there are people who are his people there. so they will not come to europe now. that is, some difficulties that concern them. they are all the time possible to the difficulties that concern me. here you explain to me that is, you think it's real. uh, such a development. some of the people who left here have russian passports at some point. a situation may arise when europe says, so everyone who has a russian passport does not matter, so you are talking about putin. you are talking about zelensky. are you talking about american ones? march back to russia and they will send these holders of russian passports back to us. i, if possible, will return to this. by the way, i want
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one of the attackers to enter latvia today, because they said what is not, because he has a russian passport, because he has a schengen yes, a russian one, it just worries me, because maybe i like the situation when something like that. let's so we are ballast, firstly, right away, so that russia is not accused of being some kind of backward country, you know such a magnificent strange state. that's when the numbers today filled up slippery never left 60-99. a little less than 54% of americans have never traveled outside the united states , which is, in principle, normal in america's huge brothers outside their city. nowhere. i mean, it was absolutely right to say that. that they are an active minority, and in this sense they are also our citizens. they like going to europe, of course, this is a big one, as it were. well, this is an inconvenience, of course, someone wants time to eat, someone else someone, well, they like it. well, now they won’t be able to ask another question, what is this measure itself, which is proposed? and let’s talk about the fact that, both in russia and in europe, there are people who are given
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something to ban. give something to punish forbid to flog anything else to do. and these people. now they give voice. at least eastern europe is at least public on the plane. i am sure that the vast majority of our opponents in the west in europe, they are now also twisting their fingers at the temple because what are you doing, after all, what is our tourist in europe a small communication moment of influence on this person, not corporating into that system of values, and they cut it off with their own hands, and so other opportunities in europe. this is a man, which in the store saves tourists necessarily necessarily. and they like this picture in different ways . they are there, and it will cut them off, you know, this mistake from their point of view. and we just need to rejoice, no matter how cynical it sounds, as for what to do now? what will they do? it seems to me at the eu level. of course, they will not make this decision analogous to each country. it’s generally
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possible by law not to determine the government themselves, and we will get a situation where there is conditionally eastern europe where ours is a favorite trinket, which will put spokes in the wheels, which, if it does not change schengen, will reduce the number of visas, will issue visas, for example, on mondays. only there, i don't know, from 8:00 to 12:00. well, that is, it makes everything as inconvenient as possible. well, opportunities will be opened in some france, germany, to obtain this visa and ride through these visas and so that, in fact, you know, uh, differently estimated. uh, this ban also applies to a dash of 7 million people. well, this or not enough. we can evaluate differently as well, but on my sight. here is viktor stepanovich chernomoryevna. i would like to quote never like that. here again here, look, what's what why do people go abroad. first tourism. relaxation. second, if there are some entrepreneurial business objectives, there and so on. and if someone has property complexes, people are accustomed to living in several countries, in all these cases there are cases that we are just now considering.
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this is some. uh, political representation of how it was standard. now we have a huge the number of e liberal, which means that part of the population left precisely under different types. eh, there and now they find themselves in a state of outcasts there. yes, that is, again, an amazing situation, uh, in their place. uh, well, to put it mildly, now it will be very unpleasant, because to go back. it 's agressive to stay here. it's impossible to place them here, because any society will now perceive them as traitors. i am straight traitors we have never loved and do not love, that is, the image. no, depending on who's here, if nevzorov is acceptable, as far as i understand, we have a criminal case . yes, and latynina, who the hell needs any criminal case, public outcry - this is what they are actually very afraid of, too, because being exiled in their own country. this is the most terrible thing for them, because they always believed that they were luminaries, that they were leading
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a mass somewhere, it turns out that they are not leading anyone anywhere, their exiles are nobody. actually in their own country. nobody kicked them out. it's their own and nationality's head turns, in of which they are especially those who will need to deprive now of a second. we must deprive us of citizenship. we can deprive them that we can not, there is a procedure. in fact, the procedure for dealing with citizens, especially those who have received. you're newly acquired it's the ones that spawn here yes there's a problem, but those people who are and what do you ride? wait there, personally it will give. here, uh, nothing. this is not what it is. this latin will be driven back to russia. and we will deprive our citizens of it. i'm right it's so on it is convenient to stand experiments nikolaevich let's not love women. i do not like yulia, a latin woman.
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this roughly corresponds to 5-7 million e citizens of our country. i think that this roughly corresponds to uh, in no case should this problem be downplayed, because the visa center in st . in the world. the visa center over a million weight per year was issued due to the fact that 100 km. in this petersburg border and lead the northwest. yes , there really are people who drive, uh, who drive. uh, abroad only lie down on the beach to relax or buy. well, there are people. imagine there are quite a few of them who travel for educational purposes, who go, uh, to look at the museum, to see, uh, cities and adrianovich. they don't leave very many people there, they don't have a lot of money of their own, including a tourist. there are some very very economical and i have a very large one. unfortunately in that
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offer now we will continue. do you believe that here it's an idea, it really is. maybe some company, which i really hope not. i have a very serious e, causes concern. and when it is, when any kind of measures concern the citizens without exception, e.g. the state. and i drew this already in this studio, when someone spoke about ukraine in this way. the same goes for anyone when against any state. you see, such uh, such measures, i very much hope that such decisions will not be made, because it will only delay uh, improvement of the pause, and then vanya after the u pause. uh, we'll be back after this. let's go to our country and see who is really leaving us. why do we have how long and how often and so on
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talk about him like that, my dad has never been with me. you will not show in the dna let her look for other fathers and the father about their production. i hide the envelope. dna today 17:50 on ntv cop wars today at 19:50 on ntv is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. we continue. come on, after all, we will clarify these figures for those who left, and how many of them we will clarify, because i remember boris boris with us back in the spring, when he came to us. he kept screaming, which means she left millions of people. you look and so on and so on. what does the numbers mean in the first quarter of 22 years, this is the statistics that the fsb and the ministry of digital development give. in the first quarter of the twenty-second year, 3 million 880,000 people left, it seems that a lot of you left
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the country. you are right, while four out of five came back 80% came back, that is, people who went there for work or for tourist trips abroad. again, according to these statistics, 776,000 people remained. well, the figure is really not the smallest, but here it is necessary to clarify who these 7706,000 people are, because these are probably not the people who traveled once and for all, they work for russian companies. they somehow work remotely. in general, in fact, it turns out that they left the motherland, but did not break ties with the motherland, but there are those who really left. here, as they say on permanent residence, almost forever. the outflow is observed in particular among it specialists in the spring from 50 to 70,000 it specialists left russia. well and here is a funny statistic that 15,000 dollars of millionaires left russia this year. out of that 1,000 dollars, we lost 15%, but even
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with these thousands, it is still proposed to do something to somehow stop this outflow. right now, one of the biggest questions we're going to face is exactly this question. how can we preserve the human resources potential in the country, because we see what is happening we see what kind of pulling force is now operating in our science. and if we do not create such conditions now, so that here it was more comfortable and more interesting to work. we will have losses, every scientist, entrepreneur or engineer who leaves. this is the lost future. it's not just one person leaving. it's not 10 people, leaving and not 10,000. it is the people who are leaving who could bring great results on the sidelines. many international companies. they didn’t just leave russia . they took people along with their signs. they didn't take everyone. they took better. igor
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vladimirovich how to return these people back, if a man, if we call them the best partner, if we are talking about these people, then we can return these people, and i am sure we will return them, if we create conditions here, this is about this and the president of the wounds speaks and it is clear that there is a problem. we didn't have these conditions before. it ’s just that it’s just that it’s just some kind of it people, it turns out in any mind that they need to leave, because here everything was called right now, it turns out it wasn’t, otherwise there would not have been such a swift offer for them new conditions. yes, remember how we are in february march. suddenly they began to offer jehovah and it’s amazing there, of course, it’s amazing that it’s amazing that we clashed like that at that moment, so the internal problem was really exposed with this story, but it seems to me that this is not critical. this is history. indeed, these are people with them, these are people who are
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looking at what they created. uh, their well-being based on the baggage of knowledge that they received from us, and so on and so on and so on. they are still really a long time ago many of them ideologically broke away from us a long time ago, because those very free ones are the same free movement to the same europe the same active communication with certain people. would have long ago made them such people of the world. yes , national people need to be returned or not . it all depends on whether they want to return, if they want to return to these new conditions, andrey, if they want to return to these new conditions , then we need to continue working with them. i just read about suffering there too. there's a different story here, they're a different story. come back when they see that there are a lot of them don't wait for the bill. now these are the best ones,
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alexey, i agree with varlamov’s assessment , indeed, if a corporation took away employees, then they took better ones, but it’s actually difficult to argue with this. and i said the only thing that logically said, an important topic, but the constitution says, no, no ideals, like who are ideologically not ours, yes, all of us, but all of ours they all create a product they pay, taxes are those people whose values differ from those values that the traditional world has for me is difficult, so to speak. now let's evaluate. what is traditional there, yes, for people who grew up or were born in the late eighties , in the early eighties, the dream manifests itself, and even zhirinovsky's zyuganova already has different traditional values \u200b\u200bthere. yes, from heavenly vladimir , listen exactly, exactly, and the task of the west and this is the measure with
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which we began today, uh, the conversation. yes, when the baltics want to lose in the future, but also in the past specific examples. here we are just now bringing you or professions. here's how you it people. well, often then either laziness or surnames. yes, here we have a potion of nevzorov, lady of latin, this gentleman. uh, volkov is still someone of the surnames of 700 thousand and the surnames of 700,000 people, and 698,000 uh 980 they are also you think, there enemies of the state are ready to work there with uh, i don’t know intelligence agencies of different countries, being frightened, there was not enough. so okay, it's boris buttons. it was boris who got scared. these are the baristas who used free coffee, and that's why they got into georgia, and now they're having
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a hard time there, because, yeah, well, wait, wait, they have a hard time there. they don’t have housing there, which means that the georgians also attack them there and ask whose crimea or whose abkhazia is there, and now they would like to return back. why didn't they call then? no, they arranged a mini moscow for themselves in tbilisi and communicate with each other, you know what why do they lay out their cheekbones, you know it was opened by the same eateries that were in moscow, but this community, but moved to tbilisi , organized, that is, they they did it there. yes , they are either good or bad. i don't understand, must can not describe because they complain. i always see how hard it is for them. well, like, tbilisi and batumi on georgia on i say stay. of course not, for example, this is how it looks. why i want native shit, they just dip right here. they are building
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further routes, where they will be comfortable there already in europe, why it is not comfortable there as friends, they cannot be realized. and what is it when the statistics of tourism history? no no no, well that's an advantage. yes, but the statistics i have about the same half of those who left returned, the other half is still building their further routes there in order to understand how they should live. uh, and in which of the countries they end up settling. i 'm sure that of this half, the remaining half will be in the coming months. uh, somewhere late you build and their routes were frightened by the statement about visas of all kinds, of course. they from it they blame it. and who is to blame, and someone blames our government, someone blames it. uh, these idiots who make such statements. he blames himself that he broke loose, burned all his e accumulated and now thinks. well, damn it. what about
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coming back, right? here with a tightened grip on the return after all. here are some of the best. and you know here in my opinion. let's be honest with ourselves. eh, we are always in a state of competition for high minds. and this is not a question of today, as if always, and we have said many times, including in this studio , that we ourselves are to blame for the fact that we did not create good enough conditions not for engineers, neither for uh, scientists, nor for it people and now we grabbed thank god, at least they grabbed it and talked about it many times, remember, we somehow talked about the space industry. uh, discussed and the best developers went there, why because they have a demand there, and they can implement their ideas, uh, by offering them on the open market. uh, many left in this sense to israel for sortaps and so on, so we must now think very seriously about how to create conditions not for those who come back, but for those who are ready to work with us here, why do we have profitable, because the economy is now like it there
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or not like it will develop and will need new personnel, and here it depends on us how we will create this system correctly. and what about the same it people. recent studies have shown that these measures are proposed by many now began to return, do you know why? because work began to appear here where there is work, there are people because just sitting around waiting for something to be offered to us, no one is ready. but we still have to think about industrialists and about engineers, because we need produce their own machines. we need equipment for our production. this is what specialists are for. top class. here, everyone from my whistle group left me, except for me, but they left in nothing. he is a little older than me , but they didn’t leave yesterday. they left 20 years ago because they weren't offered a job at the time. i ask how they feel there, and you don't know very well, because anyway, there they second hint at your age, but you got it.
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as a result, at a turning point, this moment, when techies techies no one offered to work. i can tell the same thing about my classes, where i have. how many five guys went to the bauman to work, and then, of course, oh, to study and no one, of course, did not work, then in fact the picture for us, maybe a little more complicated, of course, any immigration in any amount. this is bad and hmm, this is not even an argument in them. even for the simple reason that we have a birth rate. how many people live in a country so bad, but is it a tragedy? do i need to wring my hands and arrange insoles there, therefore, there is certainly no reason, firstly, because you need to carefully look at these statistics. which countries did you travel for what purpose? uh, for example, well, among these millions, for example , more than 300 thousand. this is ukraine, and it is not known legally how ukraine was considered at that time, this donbass was considered with ukraine and read with ukraine, that is, one must be very careful here. the second point here is the gentleman, uh, from the wounds of the respectable organizations says that there will be problems with scientists and everything else in general. need a lot
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be careful about these statements, because already another gentleman from israel stated that every year, almost 70,000 people of scientists leave all of this in our country, then replicated it. the media later denied this. this is utter nonsense. here. uh, i just took a person and all people with higher education were recorded by specialists, highly cool and so scientists were looking for him. here we have 70,000 leaving. who's leaving, who's here? massively, our ph.d. candidates, of course, do not sing anywhere. well , firstly, english, yes, or there are foreign language secondly, because well, damn it, well, no one needs it. that's where all this is massively needed and indeed experts are some kind of research groups, research groups with a worldwide reputation. with what world works, of course, there is a struggle for them, well, again, colleagues, but talking about creating conditions is not about these people, if you need spot work, you know in a word this is for everyone, so that in general, science develops in general, everything is fine . we are no state. if this is some kind of cool special or some group in which changes were made
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coffin. maybe so much 10 million dollars. excuse me, please, 10 million dollars and which state will not block this. this means you need some. i don't know any company that maybe, there would be happiness before misfortune and helped if europe there the european union is really now in this ecstasy with innovation. uh, deprive russian citizens of the opportunity to leave. well, maybe that's good, so they, well, will be based. i said, at the very beginning, as it were. didn't sound what they're doing now, if they do it, it's russia good, because indeed, this is to some extent, but here there will be colleagues one more moment to go through. as they said, 85% of the it specialist returned ta benefits such whether they suggested to it specialists that there, there, eighty percent of 80% of all those who considered it specialists had the figure 85% you are trying to see everything, and you do not have a percentage of those who left. yes? yes. no, i’m also saying that out of the number of
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it specialists, there was a figure of 85% of it specialists who returned to russia, because it’s really very steep conditions, then keep in mind that now ends the period of short stays in different countries especially. they were needed. yes. yes, it is, first of all. secondly, most of those who left, they really left with their hard-earned work there and found already spent everything . in any case, this is an ongoing process, and in any case it will be a return to russia in the next problems that really represent some kind of scientific value. uh. i just want to bring you back to words elena, i don't know, heard no when she said that businessmen would also invest here, they are somewhere very important. i agree, we 'll talk about it now.
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which the prime minister says that 85% of it specialists who have already left are absolutely one of them. okay, they counted on sim cards, wait a minute. yes, let's go back to what i uh talked about, on what. i would like more concentrate attention regarding our largest entrepreneurs, who, as you know , have been sanctioned for a long time, probably almost all of them from the current list. it was they who were under sanctions even before the start of the special operation war, all the more interesting. and that now there are some changes. here in this sanctions policy and the states of great britain and part of europe, some russian citizens of wealthy wealthy entrepreneurs began to be deleted from this sanctions list very interesting to know why? the fact that the european union can remove 40 russian
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billionaires from sanctions at once. andrey melnichenko alisher usmanov is among those allegedly asking for de-blacklisting, bloomberg reported . punishments were either weak, or old, or infidels in the united states have already made some indulgences . the ministry of finance has actually exempted companies associated with alisher usman from sanctions, and president biden has been blown away by the american press. i personally brought the businessman roman out of sanctions. abramovich the us decision to delay the imposition of sanctions against abramovich is an unexpected twist in the west's strategy to punish wealthy oligarchs with connections to the kremlin in an attempt to pressure putin.
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tinkov’s yachts and planes were not taken away from him , another lucky founder of an investment company, milhouse, billionaire and evgeny shwillerov, nikolaevich, how would you explain such selectivity. well, it's probably really in the interests of the european union that these people have such hope, maybe, uh, some kind of on the side from my point of view, somewhat. naive, something abramovich will be some kind of intermediary there or their money of these people will remain there. well, it won't affect the relationship in any way. people. these people. uh, in general, they carried out successful business activities not only in our country, but also in various foreign countries. yes, there may be a different approach to activity, i agree, but maybe from the point of view there, i don’t know the american leadership or the european countries there. let it be better. these people continue to work there in europe and so on, they should be removed from the sanctions list, probably, probably, it is something else. you think that everyone
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should only work for us. no, i think that these people are not in any case the majority. er, of them are not people who are self-reliant thanks to their creativity. uh, outstanding knowledge reached those high-rise which they are, they reached them due to the fact that they were in the right place at the right time. the most important thing is that this will in no way affect the improvement of relations, but, nevertheless, russia and europe are neither within nor within the country, because, if i may, very briefly on the previous one. come on, because it's important that everyone was talking about what was needed. e to create conditions here, but the conditions or it is not much different from what you would agree 20 years ago, because then, first of all, it was necessary that people have prosperity. uh, wages , to have an apartment and so on, and now you need to create a different atmosphere, because you rightly said, left out of fear, when there
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is no atmosphere of fear, then people will return, otherwise, no one knows what was done and please wait let's repeat. it 's bad in less cannibalistic examples there is a saying, that fear has big eyes. sometimes people are afraid of what is not there, and they do it. this is very common. i would like to go back logically impossible to explain more and walk more in the fresh air. let them take the item from me. it needs to be so quiet. wait , nikolay igorevich. wait. i wanted to return to these businessmen, putin's thesis at home is better for leonidovna's idea, and that's why i want to ask you so much. and if they make exceptions for certain russian entrepreneurs rich in the west, or maybe even at their request, that is, obviously then they do not leave their activities
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outside our country. that is, they do not completely return our relationship to them. do we need to be suspicious with some? that is, i think that there is no need to look for any complex , uh, reflections here, therefore, about. it seems to me that if people are in such a tough russophobic situation, uh, and such under such regimes. e introduced by russia are doing indulgence, so there are two options, or people personally solved their problems in a financial way. well , that is, who needs to be brought. no need to decide where they must have promised, or even worse, they said something, well, let's say about our economy, which is critically important for some structures of the west in order to understand how our life is developing here, that is, in any seroval. yes, or financed, as there are rumors about many now. well, some injections into ukraine there. yes, thus buying yourself some freedom, the presence should be connected, for example,
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with the fact that you can show people, there are some important enterprises, for example, chemical ones, invoking fertilizers, producing some kind of food stories and so that these rich people, who have already been sanctioned, do not stop trading with the same western countries, bring them under sanctions, you give fertilizer. west simply leaves the company and this company works without this person, yes, because just from those criteria you listed. this one is blacker than the other - it really is. i'm trying to figure out if there's nothing here criteria, if white the meat of doubt, it seems to me that this kind of forgiveness can now be earned, well, some kind of traitor to one degree or another, or the men there is some kind of personal solution to the problem. i also think that there is hope for the mediation of our oligarchy. the so-called already these hopes are
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absent, and this is only a solution to personal issues. they don’t rely on anyone, abramovich, or anyone, as it were, a person who can negotiate with putin, but maybe they hope for him somehow a person who is capable inside our country of creation to create some kind of organization, or again financial assistance. to influence some minds to direct and so on very much. naive people can this be? yes? they are very naive people. although, by and large, even the creation of an iron curtain. it's also history. e about naive experts who suggested that these people who are not revolutionaries are sitting in tbilisi as a colleague said. yes, when they arrive here, they will create a mass that same explosive mass, they do not want to be revolutionaries, it turns out, our western-oriented ones, and the townsfolk don't want to be revolutionaries; they do n't need this sealed carriage. they don't need this sealed carriage. yes, how did he put on tyulenin , that is, they will not come and will not bring a revolution,
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so maybe ivan and you are right in this regard, that you hope that there will be such businessmen, but strange people. well, of course not. of course they are hesitant. this middle class is ordinary, so to speak, no offense to anyone with bespectacles who want to live in peace and that no one touches them. i never i defend normal. think opponents listen, we once again do not need to do generalizations. i’m just acquaintances on social networks whom i subscribed to when they left, it was already there that we somehow named 20 people there, 20 names, which are really up to, well, in a certain sense, in a certain sense, you can call it a traitor to swindle in the interests of other states there. well, there are hundreds of thousands of people in agro, and i think that out of these hundreds of thousands there are thousands of people, there are thousands of people who are involved in communications. siemens has been working since russian tsarist times. but this is just communication interaction people. they
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which he could put pressure on our country in order to cause some kind of political seething nikolaevich well, today we discussed the entire program of the second block such an action. it is possible that there is a complete refusal to move our citizens. now sanctions are actually replacing a direct military clash. i very much hope that we will finally move away from this to a peaceful existence. antonchik well, put some pressure, of course, they can only try the result. no need to press, but it will leave a bruise. and then they forget that we are still, to some extent, masochists of us, when from all sides you immediately begin to develop right away, we went calmly. we sit like nothing happens to the oven. well i guess we're not all masochistic let's say so. so someone even gardens, but not mine. yes, therefore, i think that our
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allies along the borders will rather press on interethnic relations. the americans are already conducting exercises in tajikistan. so this kind of geopolitical uh, the introduction rather than sanctions. how many tricks, it will continue officially such sanctions, i don’t see, but i just didn’t have time to tell now such gray schemes are working between europe and us amazing someday i'll tell you how. wait, yesterday or the day before yesterday there was a message about an increase in imports from europe by something like 17% per month. yes, crazy schemes. it’s getting worse with the opening of enterprises there in order for it to work formally for europe; in fact, everything is being done from here, if they strictly comply with their sanctions, it will be unpleasant for us, but there are no more opportunities to introduce anything additional. yeah, you know, in my opinion, they made a strategic mistake. they are you everything at once and all subsequent sanctions, they are so narrow u are small compared to what they have entered, what u will cause. this is the first, but a smile, and
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the second, is the desire to wait until autumn to say that they think the chickens in the fall will soon be cold. let's see who pays for it. i see how one method, how to put pressure on us, is to continue this story so that all those who, it means, left at different times, have a residence permit. maybe even acquired western citizenship were returned to russia well, for example, they are returning to russia the former head of the bank of moscow, mr. borodin, as we remember, to whom there are claims, in my opinion, for a billion, then rubles, or i confused the dollars. the same courts can be paralyzed with how many excellent criminals will be returned to us missed this news. no, i have now returned all these financial refugees, our courts are tormented. all yes? thank you very much, and this is how our program begins the new season. and as you always know everything, here we are. hmm, we think everything we know. we're talking to you live. we do it. we do not put it off immediately and do not forget to subscribe to our telegram channel, then we will show you. that's about the
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immediacy of the squad. yes, svetlana sergeevna ah. yakov son. what are you good at? uh, the best thing in life you know, the best thing i do is procrastinate . what are you postponing? i'll tell you this later, here, and we tell everything on weekdays at 14:00 on ntv air, this is a meeting place that cannot be changed. all the best to you, goodbye. hello , you are watching news on ntv in the egor konovalov studio
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