and at the end of the program, a hysterical detention in vladivostok where a drunk person crushed a patrol car, a lady in the company of friends was returning from vacation, the inspectors decided to stop a foreign car and check avtolady's documents. what caused a violent reaction, the girl did not restrain herself, at the beginning she hit the policeman, and then tried to break the windshield of the company car, the blonde was taken to the department where she continued her speech , broke the tv, as it turned out, the detainee was already deprived of her driver's license. so now she faces not only administrative punishment, but also a criminal case, including for attacking police officers in the next three days. the girl will be held in custody. that's all for today, we thank you for your attention all the best and see you soon. sprouts

of evil, we are driving on the road behind us, why did the zelensky regime take the path? to do something especially nasty and something especially cruel, what a rat kid is capable of, driven into a corner, this is what i wish all russians and why the west calmly looks at kiev's attempts to arrange a new chernobyl provocation and game on the nuclear nerves of the whole world about this today in our program. hello, is this the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear? i'm andrey norkin. my colleague is ivan trushkin. we are working live. at the beginning of the program , i must frankly admit to you that i am somewhat in a state of such impotent confusion and do not understand very well how i

choose my words today. dugin is a person who very actively popularized the idea of ​​the russian world, but i must say that daria also dealt with this particular topic, did it selflessly and i would say tanks ivanovich why confusion, and i have known alexander for quite a long time, i was personally acquainted with dasha and we worked together for many years. and after our work here stopped, at personal meetings, we always exchanged greetings, kind wishes to each other. therefore, what happened on saturday i perceive not just as an attack on our country. and as for the tragedy that occurred in the family, i am well acquainted with it. and why is my confusion powerless? because i really don't understand. what to do now? and what i want to do. i

can't even speak. yes, it is difficult to choose words from the other side. i, uh, i'm aware that probably. uh, not everything can and should be done from what is spinning in my head. in general, such a complicated story, but today we wanted to dedicate uh. ah, our conversation. here are generally those i don’t even remember ivan, when i started raising in this studio, as the question that ukraine is turning into a terrorist organization a long time ago, and in general, there is no intelligible reaction. i do not expect this intelligible reaction from the world community; it will never happen. i would like our intelligible reaction to the actions of this terrorist organization, even now, probably seen on the internet, they often began to call wil by analogy, which is forbidden in our country. well, let's see the first story, there's everything the chronology of this crime, and the only thing i will add is that daria dugina was returning from a family festival of traditions. it took place in the moscow region at

this festival performed. her father. there were many others. e, well-known cultural figures of our country, historians and journalists. and so, when she was leaving, leaving, she heard this fatal explosion in her father's car, which claimed her life. i was not yet 30 years old. immediately after the murder of daria dugina, a version appeared that, in fact, the target of the assassination was supposed to be her father, a political scientist alexander dugin, who fell under western sanctions in 2014, it was he who was going to ride in the ill-fated suv, but at the last moment changed his mind and got into another car against daria dugin, who ardently supported the special operation in ukraine, as before , british sanctions were also imposed against her father this summer the authorities considered that her actions quote destabilize ukraine , undermine and threaten its territorial integrity, sovereignty and independence in ukraine, the murder of daria caused real jubilation

dances, imitators wrote on the bones that she deserved the death of a dog and demanded to continue the attacks. the apple fell not far from the apple tree, she continued the work of her father, promoting the ideology of the russian world and justifying the war against ukraine in general, the earth of this rashistka is glassy and we hope very soon dad will join her in hell. dugin's daughter is not an innocent sheep. she is a member of the propaganda front against ukraine in the photo a person who reaps the fruits of his great love, love of war for a strong death. i wonder if he understands that the death of his daughter is absolutely his harvest coincidence or not, but a day before the murder of darya, the ukrainian gost channel one plus one showed a story about alexander dugin, where he was demonized in every possible way, called the ideologist of russian civilization and a man who

almost vladimir putin is not controlled by alexander dugin, a man who is called the brain of putin and also the main ideologist of rashism, having heard enough of this pseudo-intellectual, as well as all kinds of repeaters of his thoughts russian vanka they went to war when we talk about dying for ideas, or, in principle, it means dying and killing for ideas, however, as in the case of sabotage in the russian border territories, official kiev lacks the courage to admit responsibility for new crimes. adviser to the head of the president's office, mikhail batallok spoke in the spirit of a fool himself. ukraine ukraine certainly has nothing to do with this, because we have criminal states. what is the russian federation and, moreover, not terrorism. yes they will use this for ideological informational pressure on russian society,

like, let's go, really massively cut ukrainians in the russian foreign ministry, they have already made it clear that if the version in the ukrainian version of the murder of daria dugin is confirmed, then the ukrainian regime should be recognized as terrorist on state level. if the ukrainian trace is confirmed, and this version was voiced by the head of the dpr denis pushilin and it must be verified by the competent authorities, then we should talk about the policy of state terrorism, implemented kyiv regime. uh, indeed, the investigation has just begun. and we need to wait for its results, until i can say that the investigative committee announced that the assassination attempt was certainly ordered and was prepared for a long time, and the explosive device was about two hundred. uh was laid under the bottom of the car under the driver's seat, but i'm not talking about the investigation of the crime, but about the reaction of our neighbors

. who comment in this way, what happened you are ready to sit down at the table of negotiations with the leadership of ukraine which denies any involvement in this brutal terrorist attack, of course, how else, so i want to say the following, but with the pole. well, while the president of the surname zelensky is passing from the leadership of ukraine, it is necessary to negotiate with him to end this war. so i'm just going to remind you. you say that they deny their involvement, they deny their involvement in the shelling of the zaporozhye nuclear power plant, correctly. they reject his involvement in the shelling of our villages in the kursk region in the rostov region. they refute and reject everything. well, let's not play naivety, please. the first thing i want to say. i do not feel the

slightest gloating and not the slightest satisfaction there about this tragedy of the family. dugin yes, of course, well, how do i feel about dugin's philosophy, this can be discussed separately somehow, i am not his supporter, but i appeal to all the people who think that philosophers can be taken. there is something terrible to do with it. you urge us to negotiate with representatives of the ukrainian leadership, who deny involvement in this crime. ivan reminds you that the ukrainian leadership will refute its involvement in everything , no matter what you are on the list, dear comrades , a fighter, he is a combatant. yes, and a crime. this is a terrorist attack against his family. this is a terrorist attack. i understood the civilian. who are

you negotiating with? zaporizhzhya - is it fighting? it 's a different story. yes, there is one army opposed to another. yes and here is another story, and there each is this a different situation, the shelling of settlements that are under the control of ukraine, is that also fighting? kramatorsk when in the series the station here is the war yes, and not their territory is shelled with their weapons. it's proven there serial numbers. this is the ukrainian one in the war. this war shooting is too often similar accidents. so one more time. look, everyone who understands at least a little how a big war works. and this is a big war. yes, the two armies have been regularly fighting the state for six months. yes fine understands what exactly and getting people who a day continues with these understandings. here is this disgrace. yes, i, firstly, would not get ahead of myself even if that is, this is the ukrainian

state? let's wait, as the foreign ministry says the results of the investigation, yes. let's wait. we'll see today, i don't know, we'll build ponomarev, we'll show extremely unexpected news that our colleagues have just received. i was told , you know, on the information tapes, if it is urgent that there is a lightning mark, the statement is written like this the russian federal security service of the murder of darya dugin and disclosed no details. not yet. maybe ria novosti will now appear during the program will appear. let's go back then. well, let's then. uh, or we'll agree right away. let's show rose. if you remember, we had such a deputy and a white ribbon. uh, the state duma mr. ponomarev and i are now on the international wanted list and it is clear that he is not in russia, after all this story he gave an interview where he said that he advised how he says murderers dugin and for what happened is responsible, a certain national republican who

consulted with him as a ponomarev, how is it more and more of these? i haven't heard of these either. let's listen to him in full, we've established contact. uh, they asked us for some methodological help, material help. we there something there advised something helped. uh, somewhere they defended at some point there was a critical moment when several people came under persecution of the fsb, we evacuated them from russia first received a message that he had died. uh, dugin with his daughter, and then it became clear that dugin himself did not die. what about the people who filmed this action. they saw that there were two people in the car , for some reason the russian authorities still do not recognize them. the loss of another second person, who passed together, that the main goal was still alexander gelievich. dugin no, what they told us means that it will be daria and alexander, that is, they told us that there will be two people, and as i

understand it, this was still an idea, because that dudin was the brain daria was the hand and a large amount of anger towards ildar edugina herself was due to the fact that she was in this azu and many consider her, respectively, for elenushka. and here is some element of such an executive revenge, so, well, let me now give some details, we will then collect what the news agency will transmit, we will return to this topic. it means that the fsb tells in detail and the crime was committed by the ukrainian special services, specifically the perpetrator a citizen of ukraine named natalya vovk, some time ago. she arrived in russia with her daughter, on july 23 they specify. she rented an apartment in the same building where they lived before gena rented a mini-cooper car, in which she arrived at

polyana and watched the cars for some time. she came to this festival. apparently. this explosive device was planted there, according to the fsb. after this order was completed. ah, this terrorist left for estonia. that's the information we have so far, and now we'll wait for more . i certainly didn't expect some kind of aleksandrovich behind the murder are the ukrainian special services question. let's not argue anymore. i don't know, well, first of all. uh, i want to express my condolences to alexander or i don’t know, when i see him, i’ll use your edges. i wrote to him, he has not yet answered, because, as far as i understand. i mean, well, the story is long. yes, i remind you that i

pressed the red button back in my day, kissinger was in davos. since then, this story has been going on, that is, to the west, e does not allow ukraine to negotiate. for one simple reason. well, ukraine is now in a weak what a weak general in a minus position. this is where the stories came from. it's all about negotiations from here . there was a story with a counteroffensive that did not take place on the contrary. if there is time, i will tell you what is happening on our fronts in the nikolaevsky direction, our offensive is already underway today, and when it became, it is clear that in no sector, uh, of an extended front. there is no possibility. uh, even a provocation, uh, with the help of the army to arrange, they switched to a different method, because every day they need to inform the public about the victories, uh-huh. here drone in sevastopol this is a victory. uh, dzhankoe this is a victory. and most of all, i don’t know if it’s sad or

not, but the fact is the fact of the terrorist attacks that they commit in the liberated territories. i said this is a continuation of those, e political murders that began back in luhansk in donetsk, they do not stop. now there are political assassinations in the liberated territories. now there are political assassinations in moscow and society in quotation marks. this is what ukrainian society perceives as victory. our military cannot understand, but we killed. uh, a well-known young female journalist and this is presented as victory . this means that they are not going to stop, they will continue, and since the bankers are sitting on the bank . their head works in scenario mode, they sit and invent new new scenarios.

political assassination is they will do nothing of the same kind, and they will come to think the next thing to do in moscow, yekaterinburg, vladivostok, the attacks will continue? i understood, then then alexander sergeevich we return to that statement zakharova, which we gave, if the ukrainian trace is confirmed, as we understand about the latest statement, this color is confirmed, then we need to introduce the policy of state theorism implemented by the kiev regime. and state terror, when we should it every time was to get up on paper. it is known that zelensky gave the order. please tell me before this terrorist attack, because ukraine does not solve anything. boris borovich, it is impossible to conduct a dialogue during negotiations with an opponent who does not decide anything, but senselessly gave an order to kill daria or what, secondly after this zelensky, whose goal was certainly not just the murder of dasha, but also the raising of specific

sentiments in russia, as the westerners correctly write? uh, actually this terrorist attack was to convince the russians that security? no, that there is no stability, that even yes people who actively support their own, and they become targets, even in moscow well, to intimidate. generally. it is logical what to do in this situation, and my opinion, i will say, you can disagree with me in this situation you need to uh, make choices with two options first option strike at the decision-making centers in kiev uh, building with a blog. he is the staff of the ministry of defense at least. and now there may be a fireplace with cans , or if they don’t, then you need to explain why this is not the case. well, that explained the man to whom people give absolutely. so that not peskov, not zakharova, but putin speaks and explains why this is not being done, otherwise society cannot arise, because you

want the supreme commander to publicly disclose some details. yes, my position personal opinion. i can't do it to anyone. imagine a general leading his army into battle. he collects the peasants cart. now we'll do it this way, but we'll do it, because, well, listen, well, don't put up with words. i'm not, in this case we are talking about the fact that he began to form in russia a real patriotic citizenship. and this society needs to be spoken to as citizens. and if to be guided by the president, even a very patriotic public in making specific decisions. if it's single a terrorist attack is short possible, but we have a number of crossings of ukraine and the red lines starting. and so on zaporozhye, and ending with attacks on russian cities, it was said long ago that attacks on russian on russian territory would

mean our blow to decision-making centers. if this is not done, i do not argue if there may be some strategic zanakh. let's add something, and then let's just not all. but for now, let's repeat one phrase of this andrey vladimirovich's boy very briefly. uh, performance supreme commander with an explanation. why we do not strike at decision-making centers, firstly, will close this topic, in general, then later it will be necessary to explain why we do not strike them. even these formulations from him are unacceptable. he narrows the corridor of his own possibilities; this cannot be done. and secondly, this is a change. uh, the state of mind of our enemy, they'll say, oh, ah. well , suffered, please, literally this little fragment from the ether. dated august 16 2 weeks ago , zelensky held a meeting at which they decided

slightly change your tactics. they decided to abandon the idea of ​​this offensive, which they talked about earlier, it was decided to inflict as many blows as possible on the infrastructure, the liberated territories. so this is being done very actively before the kherson region and so on. so andrey vladimirovich well, explain, because everything in general is now working out, as you said, it is constantly working in the crimea, some trifle flies there, but still you have to work. uh, we underestimate the ukrainian leadership. i say constantly all the time says that these boys are kvnchiki and other serious logic. this logic is one thing and sasha can confirm. this is the logic at all costs to contain our offensive at any cost to transfer the war operation to the autumn winter period. that is why now the terrorist attacks, i fully agree, will continue and moreover

appear. now in uh, already three weeks of new american drones, which will already reach the depths of our territory, that is , almost there to rostov, and so on and so forth. similar. yes, these are all concrete plans. andrey will already deliver. just now called rostov you know some specific goals that the ukrainian leadership. first, the voronezh region, there is a complex of bridges, in rostov it's normal, yes, but if it's normal, then there is an agreement. and then maybe a little bit, as it were, for boris borisovich, who appeals to the ukrainian leadership, who denies it, which means his involvement, again, last week we showed, in my opinion, even a couple of times the statements of the minister of defense ukraine reznikov, who said that they have an agreement with the americans that they will not carry out strikes on objects on the territory of the russian federation, but in these, that is, they have nothing

else. the fact is that the same new american drones. they are transferred to ukraine , they cease to be american. this is a very trick to turn over papers. well stop you understand one simple thing now really. well, firstly, we must not forget that the day after tomorrow we have independence day with her who are trying to resist. yes, this is the first and second. i say again, now a critical point is coming, or or i understood, andrey vladimirovich found on the air and confirmed only our first thesis that ukraine is a terrorist state, whose leaders, as andrey vladimirovich knows from their sources , are going to organize terrorist attacks on the territory of the russian federation is like our gas, which ceases to be russian, when ukraine buys

it there from some i don’t know austria, but, it means that we are waiting for the shelling of rostov and the new voronezh nuclear power plant and the crimea yes, and then we enter into negotiations with them or now we start negotiations so that there are no gray ones, firstly, with regard to the so-called national republican army. of course, we didn’t hear them, because it doesn’t exist, and it was invented by ponomarev and his curators from the ukrainian special services. well , it is clear that ilya ponomarev ah, could never give such and distribute such interviews, uh from the territory of ukraine. and this is an interview. this conversation, it's its target audience is it is russia that is not america, it is not england or france, it is precisely aimed at russia, as i understand it, that he gave an interview to the media that he himself created. well, or tell him there, i’m a sexton on the territory of ukraine under protection, under the protection and control of the ukrainian special services, what he says, and the activities that he does both on social networks and on video. and of course

, this is all approved by the ukrainian special services. he would never have made such statements without them without the green light and guidance from them now concerning? why was and from was a duginal family, and daria dugina is incredibly her father. why as a goal? firstly, these are iconic figures in terms of recognition, and that is, their names. here we are discussing this, because we know who it is. on the other hand, they are not, contrary to popular belief in the west, alexander dugin was never an adviser to putin, is not a government official, therefore, they did not have them, they were not under the protection of the state under such a level of state protection as some government official their lighter. it was easier to carry out such a terrorist attack against them. why is this being done to show? yes, it’s true, to intimidate it also, to show that ukraine can carry out terrorist attacks right in the heart of russia in moscow, but russia can’t in any way, and here are friends for this, but

in the crimea in the belgorod region, and we can’t do anything . yes, bogdan's goal that is, now i would like you to sympathize with the family, and secondly, yes, i just wanted to say about the same thing, that i do not believe ponomarev any orders. he didn't give. this is pure advertising of pr information technologies and not ukrainian special services. i think they are important just like the illustrations. all this speaks. this is clear. what an arresting thing. i think that these are not ukrainian special services, because they have long become a branch of the western special services. ukraine has chosen terrorism. more precisely, those who stand behind ukraine as a weapon of the weak. they cannot oppose anything to what is now going on the front line. there is a slow but steady grinding of the armed forces over there in the nikolaev region, an offensive and so on, of course, no strikes on the decision -making center until there is a mine on the parliament building there , because this will immediately be used by ukraine in the information war. well, now

the territory has entered ukraine, a column of 200-meter from 18 armored american vehicles, yes, yes. and why not strike at her there, that would be really good, all this disgrace. no , i mean, when they start, please, hush the problem. it seems to me that yes, of course, ukraine is a terrorist state, but the problem is that this state is terrorist and their logic. she is different. it comes from this, then it is impossible to agree with them on the issue of negotiations. that is, attacks on nuclear power plants - it's obvious, right? you can’t conduct it, then you need some other actions, there are specialists and a suicide bomber. it is possible to destroy and stop in only one way, if we give this analogy. yes, only the power ones no longer

regret calibrating. so it's unrealistic. let's. i now wait. we will continue now. e, after a pause, yes, to analyze these facts here terrorist activities. we just have a minute and a half left. come on, i'm more intelligible now. ah. let me remind you once again that the fsb actually reports the circumstances of the crime, as a result of which dugin was killed, i am now quoting you by interfax the statement of the federal security service. in russia on july 23 this year, together with her daughter shaban sofia mikhailovna tenth years of birth, after the commission of the wow crime , together with their daughter, they left through the pskov region to estonia in order to organize the murder of dugin and obtain information about her lifestyle, they rented an apartment in moscow in the house where the

deceased lived to monitor the suspected journalist rented a mini-cooper car, moreover when entering russia, the numbers of the donetsk people's republic were used; here, a specific number in moscow is indicated; kazakh numbers; when leaving, ukrainian numbers on the day of the murder of vovk and shaban. we were at a literary music festival of traditions, where dugina was present as an honored guest. the materials of the investigation were transferred to the investigative committee of the russian federation. well, that is, in general, we know who did it. true, they were not detained. well, what to do next? let's talk about it in a couple of minutes.

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region happened everything near the village of vasilyevka on july 31, the russian military with signs of severe poisoning were taken to the hospital and they found in their bodies a poisonous substance, batulatoxin, type b. it's a neurotoxin. it is able to affect the endings of the motor nerves. it also affects the eyes, nose, lungs, and even in very small doses can cause fatal poisoning. according to microbiologists, death occurs from suffocation. at present, in fact sanctioned by the zelensky chemical terrorism regime of the russian federation, supporting documents are being prepared with the results of all analyzes carried out, proof of the chemical terrorism of the kiev regime. in the near future they will be officially sent to the organization for the prohibition of chemical weapons through the permanent mission of russia, and after this story with botulinum toxin came to light, they decided to conduct

an additional investigation. and the state of what happened to vladimir is in balance. this is the head the military of the civil administration of the kherson region, whose health suddenly deteriorated a few weeks ago, and it worsened very much in early august from being hospitalized in moscow in an ambulance from the skrifos garden , would you ever understand, the ministry of defense could also suffer from the use of some kind of military , toxic substances even then the publication of the base reported that doctors had a suspicion of poisoning. sally is on the mend now. and vladimir rogov is a member of the main council of the military-civilian administration of zaporozhye region, warned that the authorities of ukraine in the near future could move on to bacteriological provocations to terror against the inhabitants of the region, kiev terrorists did not take responsibility for any of the incidents , moreover, adviser to the head of zelensky's office, mikhail podolyak, wrote that russian soldiers poisoned not by some kind of chemical or bacteriological weapon, but by low-quality alcohol and crackers expired in the heat

alexander yuryevich where did kiev get such chemical preparations from? this western comrades supply or this is some kind of soviet amateur performance. hmm, i'll look on the one hand. i think they somewhere zanykalis soviet on the other side. well, we talked about american laboratories before the start of our work; this activity continued under the supervision of the united states in ukraine very rapidly. so what? rayna was a testing ground, uh, including for testing btreological and chemical weapons of any kind, so all this could be on the territory of ukraine, remember the words. okay, what, what was the main thing the main thing is not to let the russian troops get to them faster, which means they managed to hide everything. and, uh, absolutely convinced , i agree with vladimir e that they use it, then everything is there, if they

use it, everything here is necessary from andrey vladimirovich to find out what closest e to the workshop as possible, and this is a sanctioned action by their western comrades, there is a patriological weapon. let's wait to eat chemical weapons. let's have a story, of course, a very complex activity, history, in general, is complex in itself, because all this happened, as it has been known for a very long time, but it became known, that is, 2 weeks, as if nothing had happened, then you take tests and don’t throw words into the wind, and then you’ll say if well, they said, if you take, this substance is it discovered within two hours. trust me your expertise in all areas just amazes me. well, continue sanctioned by someone or not? i don't think it's unauthorized from above. i think it's a tactical decision. and i say again that i agree with what i said here. now ukraine will take every step to change the situation at the front and around it. this is

perfect. it is clear that this is what needs to be done. actually a chemical weapon. i'll tell you, honestly, it doesn't pose any danger. here is a comparison with what may be at the zaporizhzhya npp and against. new case and nothing more, let's then show the plot, because the shelling continues, so the weekend was on the zaporizhzhya situation. last saturday, ukrainian troops shelled energodar with a long-range weapons supplied by the west, the local authorities reported, and at least four nato shells that fell on the territory of the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant , another blow was delivered last night to the passing ministry of defense of ukraine, horror stories tell about a certain russian provocation being prepared for asmol , the station staff was sent on indefinite leave. she object was brought by representatives of russ atoms, who are allegedly preparing to disconnect the nuclear power plant from power. before that, the head of the ukrainian military department, in an interview with an american journalist, accused moscow of

nuclear gland in the first place. they are trying to hold us all hostage through their use of nuclear weapons as a peaceful weapon. we are convinced that there should definitely not be russian units there and what is happening now. this is just a provocation and a kind of game on the nuclear nerves of the whole world. the ukrainian ministry of health is also whipping up fear, he released a training manual in which he told the ukrainians in detail. what to do in the event of a radiation accident, and the former mayor of energodar, dmitry orlov, said that medical preparations were brought to the city in case of a release radiation. as a result of redistribution, 25,000 tablets of potassium idide were delivered to energodar from the regional reserve. i hope that the teams for taking this drug. you will never get it, but potassium edit should be in the first-aid kit of every family in energodar , kiev's hysterical statements about the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant and are strongly

approved by western curators. chairman of the defense committee of the british parliament. tobias. elwood last week said in social networks that this topic needs to be fueled in every possible way. it will give. formal nato's reason to intervene in the conflict was supported by the us congress as well. any deliberate damage to the ukrainian nuclear reactor with a possible radiation leak would be a violation of nato article 5, it agrees on article 5. well, no, of course, because it will be deliberately done by ukraine, because it will be. well , russia will be blamed anyway. well, even if it does not mean look, and what do we have, we have a situation where kiev operates in conditions of complete absolute security. and i wait, you yourself they talked about the fact that it’s not necessary about the ukrainians, because i don’t decide to talk to zelensky and it’s necessary, because i don’t do anything. sorry if i suddenly inflict some kind of insult on you,

referring to the newspaper of the world. here she is, of course, not her most powerful deputation, but she is extremely popular. and in general, as the british tabloids teach life, they matter. sometimes more than any conservative buildings, such as the times newspaper of the world wrote. with reference to various high-ranking british military officials, that e the british army should be ready for the start of a military clash with russia; there are statements such that we are the generation that should be ready to fight in europe a minute further there is all sorts of crap. here but nevertheless. here the british press writes that her majesty's armed forces are under arms, as if this garbage is ready to be sent, yes, then this garbage. here's about the fifth article, like how the military french military german military will enter the war against the russian army. if the russian army

leads troops to poland to the baltic states in romania hmm , western units will not officially be sent to ukraine, nor there, well, some kind of polish mercenaries. maybe there are detachments, but armies somehow, as you will not be sent, because they will be political suicide for any westerner. liter, this can be justified if the western electorate is shown to explain that russia poses a real threat to europe the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant itself yes, it will sound like the russian army. a terrorist threatens europe in this case, thanks to this, most likely it will not. it means that in this situation, look what is happening in this situation, and kiev once again acts in conditions of complete absolute impunity, even murder. eh, dasha did not cause

any. i wrote a text on sunday according to the reaction of the west, but i didn’t find a single word of condolence even because they wrote that the daughter of the way of putin’s ally of putin’s was killed there, and in the context, so that she herself deserves, this is the most key western no scoreboard there, and in this situation again. and when we see that there are such any actions, kiev is not something that is not condemned. they are not even taken critically. we don't need to restrain ourselves from raising rates there. yes, of course, it seems to me that this is a rate increase, since it is still rolling west. so initially they hoped that it would still be possible to delay and force the organization of demetrized zones to negotiations. to something else compromise or just a polite departure. there and so on, it is now obvious that the words are rolling further west. and uh, it's a rate hike. this is a threat. that is what is expected of us. now we and we and the west are constantly raising the stakes. what will this lead to? in the end now to say? e what are the stakes

as material? not? no, we are acting correctly, that is, we are not stopping. we're moving on, no longer raising. i agree. no, the increase would really be shelling there, i don’t know, banking administrations and other things, you know, uh, here it affects in fact, uh somewhat opposite logic. the longer the special operation lasts and we have not yet won, the more opportunities and room for maneuver this gives our opponents. if we already controlled the theoretical kiev, controlled a significant part of ukraine, it would have let us down otherwise , that at the moment we practically control only 60% of the territory in half a year. donetsk region, tells the west that they can escalate. it is they who are now inflating the initiative. here she is on their side. it's them began to carry out realistic acts open on the territory of the russian federation in moscow that they

began to remember the first weeks. during the first months of spice , there were no more strikes on the kursk region in the crimea. i mean , the further it goes, the further we stall, and in a way, the more they feel confident. they believe that they can hit us and hit us harder and every time you don't see us. that russia's harsh reaction is not even more confident if now it means that our special military operation forces would be standing at polish border ukrainians ukraine with poland, you think that the west would have acted softer. they, if we don't. no. quite right, if we, if now the russian army were standing on the border between western ukraine and poland, then no supply of heavy weapons, firstly, they would be impossible. this is the first on the territory of ukraine because they pass exactly the polish ukrainian border. this is the first second yes, but from the point of view of softness, i would be here attacks on the crimea, strikes on the

belgorod and kursk regions would be technically impossible, because we would control the territory of ukraine. and the third part is about what makes ukrainian armed groups directly terrorist. i would name them. and at the beginning we started talking about the reaction of our western so-called partners. they would have acted tougher, by virtue of their own, they would still say sanctions, they would have remained. this is true, but they would not strike at the territory controlled by russia directly from the territory of a nato country from poland , because this would lead directly and armed conflict between russia good good. now we would not stand on the border with poland, we would not have such opportunities. now, following the results of six months of the operation, what to do, curtail tactics, how to win, then we will lose, because these are common words. can i say, i now, unfortunately, do not remember the car. i read this text yesterday very large. in general, i liked it. i’ll

try to reproduce some thesis uh things from there right now. choked. here we incorrectly estimated our strength there. there the author writes about the fact that everything is going on, since any big war is going on. he compares there with the patient of the twelfth year and with the great fatherland what, but this first one, huh? well, i don't know, let's call it the onslaught. yes, it never brings results and victory. in general, the one who wins , then organizes correctly. uh, it's like you're receiving reinforcements from the reserves. and there this author wrote that we are just finishing the formation of this new military reserve, which we will have when, then, uh, it will be expedient to give an order, and we will be with renewed vigor. here we will be. that is, how would it be now to pile on and again try to

capture something there, how pointless it is, it contradicts all the rules of warfare. yes, your two comments. yes, a comment, firstly, it is necessary, so to speak, to put aside the talk that , well, there will be a strike on the reactors. yes, there are six rows on zaporizhzhya to put aside the conversation, because these reactors are all yes, they are very reliable a direct hit by a rocket is also protected, well, many people say that if a rocket hits it will explode, but you tried it like this, you didn’t want to check it further. we are in our program to begin with, you know everything. we even, as i understand it, are in a commercial break. how to lay an explosive device on the bottom of a car, no one says that it will be missiles that will destroy the reactor in our program. they say that the risks that come with shelling of the water cooling system and shelling can be the burial place of the spent. and disaster, yes, this time, but i still

once their stressed the most dangerous thing, it's a vault. now, if you didn’t try to interrupt me, you will, well, i want to say the phrase of one, so to speak, uh, a ukrainian politician of a high-ranking legend recently privately that, ah, perhaps the disaster at the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant is the end war, because not a single ukrainian, not russian army will be able to conduct military operations after that. why because it will be the wife of radiation is 30,000 square kilometers, contaminated areas, on which will not be hostilities that is why i believe that ukraine can go for it, he told you about it, as desired from the point of view of the existing, he wants this ukrainian high-ranking. i think he thinks he will have time to get stuck. so to say that everything must be finished. of course you have to. it seems to me that we have now approached, well, we are russia there and that's it. a very dangerous story to a very dangerous one who is really

interested in crashing the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant, or who ordered a complete murder. yes , the terrorists are interested in the forces that interested in escalating this conflict escalation. there are such forces in kiev, there are such forces in nato and in america there are such forces. you are here too , yes, who are talking about bombing the center, making decisions, and so on and so forth, dear comrades. i want to say all ukrainians. stop me these forces that are interested in escalation. this is who is sitting man, dear bombing. great, just a problem. and yet , you know, we also have a decision to make. and please tell us about these forces that are interested in escalation. here are these valevich's escalators, only we don't have them. well, i’m also in america, you can name it who’s there, this article in it, in which, yes,

some people say, the british army should break russia, i’m turning to finish the game , you understand, but the nuclear war of your beautiful nuclear power plant would be offered to blow up the igil group, which is banned in our country, you would say in the same way, you need to sit down with its head. i don't know what his name is now to sit down and talk. no, boris borisovich, you would probably say that he needs destroy. as soon as possible, because the state and the ukrainian army of the state are now away from the methods that are used by the theoretical groupings prohibited in our country. just in one case, for some reason, these people are not nice to you, and you offer to sit in front of them in the case of us. yes fuck, in this

case, we are opposed to the state by un members for a second, including, at least constantly a member of alexander hmm, returning to the fifth article and everything that was said in early august in one of the broadcasts. i talked about what intelligence signs appeared in the public space, which indicate that the question of direct intervention in the conflict in ukraine began to be discussed with very tightly closed doors in washington and london, uh, the publication to which the vendor refers, and it is not the only one. e, it says that this discussion is really going on, while i have told you, uh, about the red lines and referred to the war of france in china, since then, since the end of the forties , everyone knows. what is what does the direct intervention of a foreign army mean? uh-huh no mercenaries, no

instructors, not army weapons, because then the french americans gave everything, including tanks and planes, but there was not a single one. and in a military serviceman, an american e in china, because then the first council said an american soldier would appear, a pilot would appear. lisitsyn immediately instantly, so, uh, and this discussion is really going on. now the reason for this is that it is obvious to everyone that the kiev regime is losing this war and not, it is called a war. yes, well, just other options for just such tactics terror begins when, of course, yes, you understand? i am sorry. we need to interrupt, but we will continue now. this is the conversation of boriskhronny was silent about who he considers on the other side to be responsible for the escalation of the conflict. we will talk about this just now,

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right now the meeting place on ntv is the place where everything becomes clear. we continue. well, who really is the terrorist state, in general, for us, this is not a question. we have all understood this for a long time, and this is what stands behind it. here is where we left off the previous part. now we will continue , just literally in the last minutes, too , tass reports that there are 15 people in the world less. today they suffered as a result of the shelling of the antonovsky bridge. this is the kherson region. you know that the ukrainians are constantly shelling it, including with the help of the american weapons. right now, according to these data, they fired at

15 people with the help of hayes reactive systems of the zoo, fire. these are employees of uh, local uh, local repair and restoration teams who are repairing this unfortunate antonov bridge, which is constantly under fire. here lykov shell is called. yes, now let's move on to those whom boris borisovich nadezhdin called e, interested in the escalation of conflicts. i said that ukraine is not the first. i don’t know such a terrorist object that these people are creating. let's do it so. first, we will recall what was done on the territory of our country, and then a little later we will talk about other countries where the dear united states and its adult allies nurtured these terrorist organizations and quasi-states, and so on. in the second chechen company, the west supported the militants with weapons by means of communications and electronic warfare in november 1999 , several russian publications reported at once that a batch of seventy

stinger launchers was delivered to chechnya, according to the russian ministry of internal affairs more than 60 international organizations, about 100 foreign firms and tenths of banks in the united states alone, collected money from about 50 various funds. not to mention the informational support of the british press, they frankly admired the fighting spirit of the chechens and called them only stylistic verified words of the station, but not terrorists or militants chechen rebels in the minority, but they are well armed and well dug in and seem to be holding their positions. maybe there's only one left here. a couple of thousand posts, but so far they hold back the power of the entire russian army. they have homemade weapons, they do not have enough people and weapons, but these islamic rebels believe that god is on their side, the successes of the russian military were presented one-sidedly the word

the word as it is now presented in ukraine, the brutal bombing of the world and the inhabitants is moving very slowly the texts of these unbiased stories. could even tomorrow be on the british air in connection with the events in ukraine and no one would have noticed the tricks of the russian military accused of freedom cruelty. many of these people are refugees who come from the southern mountains, where, according to them, russian aviation bombs every day, the number of victims is constantly growing. this woman was carrying her child as a rocket exploded nearby like the lumbering giant of a russian advance. leniya, but it looks like it's impossible to stop the russians determined to win this war at any cost. after the end of the chechen company. the west absolutely openly sheltered those who were declared terrorists in russia until 2019 lived in berlin

zelimkhan khangashvili. he once led one of the detachments. shamil basaeva. he found refuge in the west of the notorious terrorist mirzakai, despite numerous demands from russia and his extradition , he lives in london on privileged political asylum in the united states received militant ilyas akhmadov minister of foreign affairs, not recognized by the republic of ichkeria in june 2000, he met with the us secretary of state with big divo director georgian and in every possible way promoted the memoirs of ahmad, which he published here in america for the grand american national fund democracy. even wrote books. the foreword at a press conference dedicated to its release lamented that the americans at one time did little to support the separatists, this is one of the reasons why i was so looking forward to ilyas' book, his book is a contribution to the history of those complex processes that this small nation has experienced striving for freedom. although the book itself

does not directly indicate this. i see it as a reminder of how we and individuals turned a blind eye to problems. chechnya in your description. chechnya we preferred to simplify the situation there, thereby justifying their lack of mouth. in solving her problems. under cover. chechen fighters from the west became more active and in ukraine back in 2014 in denmark they formed two battalions named after them. sheikh mansoor and jahar. dudayev since then . they operate in the donbass and for ukrainian propaganda. the capital is a valuable acquisition, the capital, chechnya's formidable, was then destroyed by russian bombs, like the ukrainian mariupol today, that's why the chechens came to fight putin to take revenge and restore justice, and we are sure that if all the peoples who have been infringed have all the rights from the russian empire, if they unite and there is a real chance to catch

the guys to break this malicious violator putin and the exterminator from the face of the earth. erase this whole empire, and so that all peoples feel whether you are free, that the united states of great britain and their european allies are working now in exactly the same way as they did a little more than 20 years ago. unfortunately, it is common practice for large states to use proxies in other countries against each other, in the end there are, for example, the houthis, who use iran, so to speak, against their own, and there is e during the civil war in lebanon, israel used the southern groupings. stanislav valerievich here you can give an example of a successful, uh, such tactic , if we only talk about the united states , because if you repeat over and over again that, well, some action is yours, then you are satisfied, the result is bearing fruit. yes, i'm trying to

remember when i can't count something like that good result. there's a plane attack on a skyscraper in new york. why do they do exactly the same thing every time without getting. in my opinion put here, it seems to me, the question is not a political science question. rather anthropologically people with humans tend to make mistakes. with a new one again. i think that this time the same rake. no, well, the thing is, you know, from a financial point of view, there is money to be invested in one or another, er, one or another groups that other countries consider terrorists. well, that's compared to the american budget is not much, and if not succeed. well, okay, it's on the other, and at the other end of the world is efficiency, mikhalych. well , first of all, i don't agree that everyone is big. they just use this tactic. well, of course, but in fact, this tactic is used consistently and constantly, it is the united states of america that they do it all the time. and they not only supported the terrorists bloody fruits.

yes, and it brings bloody results to what is needed, and then it receives, that is, it is necessary to allocate goals there, in the same middle east, they partially achieved it. well, of course they suffered. you understand, yes, yes, not even about the middle east, but, don’t you think that the way we reacted the first time. i mean in chechnya, when our western countries had a rather weak reaction towards the west on this score, they now allowed them to try something and so on . yes, what could we afford at the beginning of the 2000s, except for, uh, statements. mida i don't know, i'm asking i agree that so nothing. yes, of course we should have, probably. what generally happened with us at the beginning of the 2000s , nevertheless, the possibility of an answer, they considered that it was possible with us and the second time they launch victor jose against us in general from program to program, that they are trying to repeat

what they are the third time too. yes, not that they succeeded and i completely disagree with the fact that they have that their activities are never effective. let's see, at the same time we remember the beginning of the zero end of the nineties, even the war in yugoslavia and the ninety-eighth ninety-ninth year. who provided support, and the kasaevskaya albanian terrorist in kosovo was supported by the americans, the british, the turks, did they have support for those results , did they bring them the results that they expected, unfortunately, yes they brought today, kosovo is not under control today belgrade, and under the control of the european union there is a large american military base. he succeeded in this, as far as afghanistan was concerned. yes , various mujahideen supported him, because we will now tell them separately what they thought. yes, it did at the time. i think

we are now discussing what is an effective tactic and ineffective tactic. here i first of all painted the elements of tactics. but you look. we have seen three of them now. yes, the americans are linear , they always act according to the same training manual or scenario. this means that the first element is, respectively, financial support, which is always provided through proxies, international organizations. and here, by the way, now our state has reacted, and in the form of a strict control over the financing of the same foreign agents. this is the first moment. so the second point is the question of whether we do something or not, the second point is this informational support. i think what we saw in the story we saw is typical for absolutely every company. this is, on the one hand, focused on means, and all kinds of inspiring terrorist groups , on the other hand, on suppressing the morale of the enemy. naturally, it means that information work is being carried out on this part. yeah not enough too, and the third element - this is directly the

supply of weapons. i've just returned from the exhibition of our army 20-22. so, you enter an exhibition of trophies there and you understand that de facto the entire collective west is fighting absolutely against us there because these are types of weapons from different countries - these are first-aid kits from different countries. it 's a connection, basically the united states. why are these things important? they need to be highlighted, that is, look here. yes it would seem that we were limited in the two thousandths in that here some specific actions should be taken, but the united states must be put on the board of shame, because it is necessary to hit them, returning to the first point that you just outlined about linearity. all the time linear act we know the result. the chechen company somehow here we achieved our goal, the whole issue was resolved. and that is, maybe we are now too reflective somehow. no need to twitch. we also have to act linearly in a good sense of the word, because anyway the result will be the same which we need i do not think so that is. well, i'm

not talking, this time we even take the segment of the information war. or those too sponsoring the financing of terrorism. i mean, here's the source. now there are different options now. there are the same electronic currencies and so on, that is, our task is to see the main segments. but inside them to build work in accordance with how the enemy is changing, and even ahead of the curve in the information war. yes, in 2000 we have but you can just go there, i don’t know, collect telegram channels in a few hours. i am i think there are several dozens of facts that in our country, for example, at concert venues in restaurants, money is being collected in favor of the apu, and somehow hmm the crime does not stop. and why don't we cross it. you are right at our house. well, look, in my opinion, it’s impossible to put such a policeman here for everyone. you see,

the civilian population should also sit in this. yes, generally speaking, and what is today. the collective west has declared war on the collective russian people and the russian world in general. fact, therefore, excuse me, sitting out somewhere on the sidelines will not work, indeed , the peasant was absolutely right. and i will not pay attention to this, but citizens, and representatives of civil society, really should signal cases when money is collected for needs, because now it is within the framework of the changes that have been made to the criminal code. this is actually a crime, for which you can sit very well. and for this you need to plant, because now we see that, in general, and we have, well, let's say so and politely, i'll say in a number of large cities, and people are not just some do not support a special antenna, which has every right to these personal point of view do not support do not support, they help the enemy. they

help. uh, ukrainian terrorists. what should they sit down for, as it were, at the first moment, if this is not help, but there is no sympathy, verbal sympathy is some texts of the side, that is, when you do n’t give money with your whole appearance, you walk around with a sign on all social networks, like you for them for you worry about the poor for the terrorists. no what they are well done terrorists. and it’s not yours, i’m not for the world , it seems, how could i use this logic, and when these people say how good ukraine is, it ’s completely different. so we are not ukraine yes , we are russia's state museum. if you explain, it is important to explain it regularly to those who call for jailing for any words in support of kiev if their actions are not, but they violate the legislation of the russian federation, we can personally treat them as we like. we can do not visit restaurants owned by people who sympathize with kiev, we can not go to

concert venues for groups that sympathize with, but if these people do not violate the laws of the russian federation , you cannot legally touch it, if we suppose or even there were cases. yes, when we say there, so at the maintenance station they refused, uh, in the crimea, yes, and they didn’t touch the mouse without the law, we touched them according to the law. they had violations, we closed them according to the law. and if, for example, we recognize ukraine at the official level, then at the request of the ministry of justice, the supreme court or some kind of court. ukraine is a terrorist state, and then we get approval for the state of ukraine to act as an expression of support. it's like raising an expression of support that is forbidden on the side. and this is our criminal understanding. in fact, everything is more complicated, if from the point of view of international law. you really, the people, specifically about this international law, will forever forget that if we recognize ukraine as a terrorist state, then we will absolutely not conduct any negotiations with it. it

's needed. i'm personally in favor because i don't see the point with talk to them. but this no, it seems to me, vanya is not talking about negotiations with ukraine, but about relations within and the expression of support within the country, but, let's say, we recognize. e at the official level ukraine in the state e terrorists. yes , andrey vladimirovich, who constantly translates for us here, interprets. this is the ukrainian logic. there, at the very top, he says it will be then that we will automatically have accomplices of terrorism, which means that you support andrei vladimirovich, you explain or i support opponent to what is to be said. which state, uh, went to the decommission of terrorism without sufficient reasoning. it was not enough to eat it was correctly said, there is a whole range of criteria that are applied, including, by the way, the koran and so on. in connection with the support of hezbolism and so on and so forth. that is, this thing must be prepared to do it in the world of organization,

friends, good people. all then. why are you then we are now epilating, like international law, where there is a hole on the hole, and therefore no one is on it refers to them, as the state is declared, uh, accomplices of world terrorism. it's not done on the run, of course. this is a job that should question the other there. whether we have this job temporarily or not. i have a definition of the number of examples. the first on the basis of which you can collect a huge amount of evidence of the problem so aleksey alekseevich well linearly counteract. uh, the states and nato are certainly stupid, because why get in the way of a speeding train attention to the question, where is this train this train rushing rushes to the destruction of civilization to the violation of traditional societies, which is actually declared and encouraged in every possible way. so what to do with it. yes, it’s okay to save yourself this, you need to

put such a thing on the rails, the whole world will be destroyed. you can here the question can be the president has already answered this question. i do not want to quote, you can lie to everyone well. here it is necessary to clearly prioritize and martial arts, which i, uh, i am an adept have such a concept and rimmy, tanka. entrance turn. eh, actually. this is very effective, e.g., information tactics , including the struggle of the economic struggle, which involves the use of the enemy's potential against himself. uh-huh and it seems to me that in our case, uh, the us has now downloaded so many means of information warfare resources against us that they have oversaturated themselves and now the moment has come. for a long time it has already come, but now it can be used. we can well turn all the actions of the us uk of the european union against them ourselves. and can you,

what they need to do, what they need to do. by the way, this process is already running. this protocol is already in place, and in fact, uh, our western partners got what they actually, what they actually went for, they got uh , a terrorist state that operates against russia. they really aspired. may i make a deal? thanks to uh, who actually works against them, they just don't understand it yet. and perhaps they will never even understand, but it's us with a man. andrey should not embarrass us, because all the actions of ukraine now they are simply accumulating. the crime of those countries that support ukraine in front of humanity is somehow being introduced a little in germany, it will be all the way they themselves do not know. what an ass threatens them, but it's not like that with us, wait. we have a point of contention here. let's continue it in a few minutes, at least, it's clear in what direction we now have a disagreement now

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was criticized more than once for financing the islamists in afghanistan at the end of the 20th century, which later turned into a terrorist group, al-qaeda, which was banned in our country, which subsequently hit the united states themselves. secretary of the security council of russia nikolay patrushev recently reminded about this speaking to colleagues in the sco. in tashkent, he spoke in detail about the methods by which the collective smell at the head of the united states wages a hybrid war against russia separately. he drew attention to the fact that support for terrorists. one of the tools is the americans themselves. fighting terrorism. only in words we must not forget that isis and al-qaeda, created precisely by the americans and are still actively used by the us intelligence services to achieve geopolitical goals, afghanistan in 1980 is a vivid example of how the americans they fought with soviet soldiers by proxy, the afghan mujahideen were supplied with weapons and money, but not directly, so as not to put themselves at risk. and

through intermediaries in pakistan and egypt, and at first, in order to confuse trace , only soviet-style weapons were sent, but soon they began to send american m16 rifles and stingers that the americans were protecting terrorists. vladimir putin a few years ago told in an interview with the director, oliver stone, russia has its own epic in afghanistan, how it happened that you did not know where you were and what did a band. it still completely started from the time of the soviet afghan war in afghanistan when, uh, the american special services supported various directions of islamic fundamentalism in the fight against the soviet troops in astana, the americans themselves raised al-qaeda and, but it all got out of control, a similar us scheme used in syria dreaming of overthrowing the president, assad. the americans stuffed the so-called

rebels with weapons. in fact, they were real terrorists, which was remarkable by this secret, trying not to shine, the weapons were not supplied from the united states, but from the countries of the former warsaw pact, and, as in the case of afghanistan, they were of the soviet type, only in 2012 did journalists prove the involvement of the americans in the deliveries as a result of globe-cutting militants in syria for several years. he received weapons, ammunition for them and even installations of grad for more than $ 2 billion in support of the syrian terrorists, the us allies of great britain and france also participated, according to the ndbands, an international coalition, which includes the uk, is developing a military plan training syrian rebels fighting the regime, assad. it is said that intervention is now inevitable, le figaro newspaper. reported that the french military advisers met with rebel groups right off the gulf border it is claimed that the us has stockpiled weapons seized in

libya for future shipments to syria of mariolin. well, you promised in the story that a boomerang would fly here, but in fact you showed it. actually, what really is. here they are financing terrorist organizations in september i flew, my friends just don’t think that this is a tactic the only tactic. in this case, all children wait until the corpse. yours will float right past you, because you understand, while they lead. this funding is through proxies of international organizations, so it is nonetheless. we should still react to it , you know, until they feel bad there. and this will turn against them, it will still be bad for us, therefore, i believe that a rebuff should be given right away, like dmitry pavlovich, thank you. well, actually, i would return to the original point of the discussion. and what is terrorism? yes, and here it was rightly said that this is an absolute norm. yes , international life. uh, the germans supported the

bolsheviks, who they were before they became the official government, in fact the terrorists in the cold war, and we and the americans supported, in fact, the terrorists. there were so many partisans like partisans yes, and after we swelled up after the cold war, we no longer had the opportunity, there was no ideology for this, around which we could deploy some such forces, but the americans. they just continued the practice. of course they are here to continue this, because the state in which we are now, in fact, is a global war. it is not only ukraine, any war involves some kind of sabotage buildup. yes, support for political forces that can weaken the enemy, as was beautifully shown in the story about chechnya. democratic states, where everything is subject to electoral cycles. yes, and what i will accept now, how ronald reagan started supporting

jimmy cards there, that means supporting the mujahideen, what will happen next? this is not so important here, probably the main question. and how do we react to what maria said, yes, should we return to some such cynical pernicious, uh, habit that they support the right terrorists, yes? or do you need to react to this in a more restrained way and question. this is a question for you, dmitry, from what you just said, while we were approximately equal in strength. yes, everyone acted as it turned out, then the ninety-first year, russia, due to weakness. well, in general, due to a change in policy, she stopped doing this, in general, no one stopped this against us and continues to act. well, listening to you, it turns out that we can only either play by the same rules, or somehow turn the board over. it is necessary then to turn the viktorovich board as far as the boomerang effect is concerned, do you understand? i remember well long enough. he was just saying that

it would be nice for us. uh-huh. not only to return to our policy of supporting certain political forces in different countries. in general , i remember you saying then that it is possible, in general, to carry out some such operations there. more serious at the level, there it is really sabotage divorced to carry out such operations by ourselves is not profitable and the united states and great britain and other countries, including some of ours allies, but carry out such activities through, let's say, intermediary through organizations with which there are certain connections , and the soviet union itself did this too, indeed. true, everyone does this because the fact is that there is only no international politics, good and bad. no, no, good and bad. this is a kindergarten. this is the primary school in international politics. there are only winners and losers, and there are no others, and any sponsors are effective achievements. they are good victories, then remain very simple, how to understand him forever?

what methods are effective, and i also wanted to note about afghanistan yes, there was a boomerang effect on september 11, but for america what the first afghan experience meant here is the one when the soviet union fought in afghanistan, this meant their policy led. here is the support of the majaked for what they were striving for, and more than 15,000 soviet soldiers and officers. many thousands died, tens of thousands were wounded. the soviet union spent huge amounts of money and effort to control afghanistan in the seventy-ninth to eighty-ninth years, so and then it had what then grew out of this utility lost more or less no, no, the united states did not fall apart. unlike the secular union on for the american budget. this had a much smaller effect than for the soviet one, and the number of casualties was precisely in people lost on september 11 and was much less than the soviet people died in afghanistan. therefore, from the point of view of american

and british foreign policy managers, they won, and we lost definitely lost, because the afghan war of george bush jr. buried america as a superpower. and, unfortunately, i don’t know before them, despite the fact that they were originally buried in our japanese rights. they acknowledge. this does not mean that they are correct. they give some that yes, they outgrow a huge amount of resources that could have been used in completely different directions, so give them a boomerang. the question is, what kind of boomerang will the current events in ukraine fly? kiev for now, to be honest, i don’t know yet, i know how it will arrive in europe because the europeans said about it that after the victory of russia, the united one completely changes there. yes, these are some global global rules of the game in the world, when america really has to negotiate with russia, this is a so-so boomerang. i mean,

serious physical blows. it will be in europe that america has come. yes, it will really suffer from the fact that the rules of the game will change and other countries in the world. china iran a number of and, let's say, a number of other states that want to decide they will understand their national problems with their own forces, what can be done there, that the russians tried to do it, the russians succeeded. why don't we repeat it? i don’t know the flow of the projectile in relation there. the iranians have their own problems; the chinese have their own problems. and then you understand, this is what america's strength is. yes, america's strength is in fear. america is holding back, and a number of other state opponents of some actions, by fear of possible actions by america in response. china is afraid, relatively speaking, to take taiwan because that they believe that america will hit him hard and the game will not be worth flogging. iran is afraid to solve its problems in the middle east for the same reason if it is shown that the eagle is paper. if it is shown that it works, then everyone

will start doing it. yes, in america there simply is not physically enough strength to pacify everyone , then we will return alexei, because he is the instigator. yes, look, uh, did the collective smell in chechnya win that chechnya is now ichkeria that it is an independent state? is she the center of terrorism? no it is well worthy, the russian republic and so on, then the americans decided to build us with china . . i agree. but when we talk about the european union, the collective, west america and so on, what do we mean we mean part of the establishment? yes, what does civil society think and how does it act, in my opinion, trump most of all will tell in this sense now, with the help of sanctions against russia, the

west has launched a mechanism of self-destruction, and uh? of course, one can be impressed there by the military force of the west, but we are well aware that now this issue is being resolved on the territory of ukraine . does nato's military potential actually exist, which is presented to us in the form of a showcase. we 'll take a break for a bit now. big and we'll be back on the air in a few minutes. silent reference to retirement aleksey kravchenko i have to finish this the case of ingrid alerinskaya alexei nilov is he, immortal or something, konstantin strelnikov of the police department of the city of portovoy, a clerical rat? i haven’t had time to translate the bandits in

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remind you that at the end of july the senate unanimously adopted a resolution recognizing our country as a sponsor of terrorism. now there after some time. you have to debate the house of representatives, really, it's not their competence. uh, the state department can make such a decision, and according to the american press in the us department of foreign affairs, a little bit. somehow i'm not sure what to do. why? not certainly in that way. fears that russia's inclusion in the transporters of terrorism will jeopardize a fragile deal allowing ships with grain to leave ukrainian ports, it took months to work out this agreement, moreover, the country is on the terrorist blacklist, the infamous label of which was awarded only to north korea cuba and iran is suffering from comprehensive sanctions, which means that the us is effectively cutting off americans from doing business with these countries. the restrictions could affect key areas of

the economy that the us is interested in despite the many sanctions, for example, nuclear materials, what are your sources, they say, you know what 's the matter, you have to understand that the position of the state department. she remains in the position of the state department, until the moment when the law is passed, as soon as the law arrives. with the approval and after that the state department. sorry, shut up after that will be declared a sponsor of terrorism. this is the most difficult moment, because , uh, if they announce us, this is at the state level with yellow tourism bonuses. they are obliged to break off all relations themselves. the next day, mr. sullivan leaves moscow back to his place, which means the relationship is at the level . it means then to cut the work, and now she will work there right in the heat. you always start

jumping so briskly in your comments, because this american law gives full opportunities apply secondary sanctions against any other state of assistance. it's been declared a terrorist country in the country. well, first of all, i'm not sure that everything has already been decided in the house of representatives. i have no such sources. you have bad sources to talk about. it is imperative that if the state department says no, they often have enough opportunity to prevent this. but, frankly , we don’t care even now even if we are declared to be the state sponsor of terrorism, the amount of sanctions that it has already imposed on us much more than that of the countries listed here this time, but the relationship will not stop, because

look, the relationship is restored resale. it's just a very large and complex compliance with the internet words more taxi no no no practice let's move on. they already have a law on secondary sanctions. they did try. to do this with respect to india when india began to buy weapons from russia is the main question and that nothing happened, because look, the hardest thing for the united states is pass the appropriate law. and it will be exactly the same as what happened with the sanctions war against russia will be and that and nothing, well, russia will work with iran well, that's fine. that is, you see, for them, uh, to show their helplessness. this is dangerous, and therefore the state department wins back mikhailovich. i think that there are problems not only in what it means that this decision is meaningless or stupid, that we will still

trade with someone. and it seems to me that there is somehow deeper in the direction of the relationship with european union. but the fact is that if we are declared that way, then they will stop in every possible way, yes, that is, these are the same secondary sanctions, that is, in a legal way. uh, that is, from the legal point of view of the right point of view of the european union, it will also be impossible to have any with us, that is, they will not buy terrorist ones. not only gas, there is a lot of everything, yes, that is, now, in fact, there is a lot of common economy, and yes, we also have relations with the americans, not only nuclear materials. what else is the problem here? i think the european union is number will slow down the adoption of such a decision to slow down the adoption of such a decision. i, well, they can influence america, after all, these are allies, it’s not very possible, it ’s one thing, after all. let's just say one thing, it's a matter of calling the state of terrorism north korea, which has no influence on the world police, not a large share of the world economy, but also nuclear weapons. and that i am a north korean nuclear weapon just when trump is nothing to reach the

united states purely theoretical, but another thing is slow, but the other is theoretical. i told a friend that it’s a matter of admitting that the state is a sponsor of terrorism in russia, which america needs not only there in terms of economy, and even more so in europe it is needed politically for, let’s say, work in a number of regions of the world, issues in eurasia can not be resolved without us. without us to lie or decide without our participation or without taking into account our interests , everyone understands this very well, therefore the senate, in its noble impulse, is the husband. adopt resolutions as much as you like, demanding to recognize russia state sponsor of terrorism, until it is signed, and perhaps there is such a version that kiev is specifically trying to spin the story of terrorist attacks in russia in order to force moscow to report that very retaliatory strike on the decision-making center so that this strike is reset there imaginary sbu building issue as a terrorist wait vladimirskaya street and five hundred meters

from st. sophia cathedral, if there is your favorite restaurant nearby. and we don't do it, because we are afraid. that's what i mean what i mean is that vanya said. about the fact that we, uh, at the beginning of 2000, the year 2000 , independently solved the problem. from this second chechen company, the so-called, i remind you that it was an openly terrorist story with an invasion of militants. yeah, including foreign fighters on the territory of dagestan, we, therefore, somehow sorted out these freaks ourselves, er, with terrorist fighters, but we couldn’t influence the west in any way because of our weakness, we didn’t, then. yes, here, and now we have it seems like there are muscles, but we are away from these serious steps in relation to ukrainian freaks. yes

like dimitri anatolian we refrain why but, because we really then concern that now we already turn out to be sponsors. uh, it turns out, uh, mirror stories, mirror story, as if on the one hand, it seems, how we should not worry about this, because you understand this. which some of our comrades adhere to. let's not do it. the fact that no sanctions were imposed against us. i consider her deeply flawed, because the sanctions still apply, and we will not do what we must do andrey that is why i think, how would i admit, this is, as it were, a sequence that could be, but nonetheless. i stand by my opinion. what needs to be done is that now russia is one of the likes. is this one in the west for the americans for someone else or not? one of the uh presenters. e military-political military powers and one way or another to the americans and europeans. we will have to negotiate with russia, and such negotiations are conducted on different

channels on a number of issues and on syria and on a deal in the iranian region and a passive career for the americans. this is the dialogue the americans need to keep. these channels of communication are open to them. they may say that russia is not isolated. but one way or another, without this dialogue , russia is where. what for? press in case the americans completely leave the system of normal relations with russia now, as far as logic is concerned, and the terrorists will declare us terrorist attacks on kiev and so on, the point is that the declaration of russia as a terrorist state is terrorists. she works, it will untie russia's hands. yes, as far as attacks on the very center of russia are concerned, there will be nothing to lose in this case, that is, in fact, if now under the threat that russia really does not want the americans or europeans to be unprofitable, and in the violence of russia on the list terrorist countries. russia does not need this. but, if they come to this, if

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after all these events, stanislavovich's radicalism will now change. i believe that each a new victim of the war, directly or indirectly, is an argument for peace; others believe that each new victim of the war is an argument that the war must be continued to the bitter end and opponents. unfortunately, while i see that the second group is larger. alexey alekseevich, we certainly must draw conclusions and act extremely decisively in this situation, but we must be prepared for the fact that the maniac will not be stopped and will continue to improve his tools. ahead of us, uh, ukraine's biological use of biological weapons, the tabs of which remained in ukraine well, quite likely. yes, the nuclear conflict is man-made. nothing fundamentally will change anymore, because we have to get used to the fact that this is a new reality and a new stability, like in the cold war. maria specifics, i think that some forces of civil assistance should be created in russia that could be taught once, because sabotage

groups will and need to understand that the population must be trained how to respond to these situations. how to respond to emergency situations and , most importantly, help law enforcement agencies noticed suspicious elements, reported thanks, but in my opinion, first of all, the state inside us will change, because if we kill with a club and what is happening around the nuclear power plant and what happened to our soldiers. i mean poisoning. we call all this acts of terrorism, then the next side is that the state of ukraine, its people, who are in charge of it, are terrorists. therefore, any sympathy for these terrorists within our society is unacceptable and impossible. this will actually be the main change, i will say that it will not change. on my opinion. that's exactly right. i will still tell jokes to our program. today i had it somehow. impossible to do. and tomorrow we will return it all, because those people who are now trying to intimidate us all of us, they

should not do this in any case. for one simple reason, it was described long ago, because our cause is just, the enemy will be defeated and victory will be ours. and we will meet at 14:00 on ntv, goodbye. hello , what is the current situation with firefighters in ryazan areas of smog from which moscow is covered by the fsb announced the disclosure of the murder of political scientist daria dugina, who is behind this?