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this daughter is your daughter. yes daughter is i am the biological mother. we assume that while undergoing the eco procedure, my husband’s biomaterial was replaced, that is, my egg, uh, was crossed with an unknown man. what happened to you, when you found out about this, i experienced a deep shock to this procedure. i didn't come by chance. we really wanted a child, so this is a long-awaited child. let's then understand together and in order. how much is now in your baby girl our daughter is six months old. we have been planning for a very long time we are not and did not get. natural way. my husband underwent numerous examinations , and i also gave us a year to plan in a natural way to try a year later, when nothing happened. we resorted to the eco procedure
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. you did ivf for a fee. we did it at the expense of compulsory medical insurance according to a quota, and you received a referral to a specific clinic. we chose the clinic ourselves based on numerous reviews, as well as friends, acquaintances advised. uh, this stavropol perinatal center is why they turned to this particular clinic for this doctor. as the preparation for the procedure took place on may 18, i entered into the protocol, i had a hormonal simulation performed. and a drug was injected into the stomach that stimulates the growth of eggs, and i also took drugs orally for my intended purpose after this stimulation on may 20, 8. we arrived in the city of stavropol to directly collect biological material. they took
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my eggs under anesthesia, and my husband donated sperm. on the same day, our cells were to be spliced and cultured for 5 days. on fifth day after e-e material sampling we arrived directly at the transfer of embryos to the uterine cavity. it was the second of june 2021, the replanting was carried out. after that, i rested, and we went home. how many embryos were there? a total of 8 embryos were received, one of which was transplanted to me. seven embryos were frozen and preserved. ah, for which we paid 1,700 rubles each. per month. uh, well, every month through january , tatyana is ordinary. how many embryos are implanted during art as a standard a single embryo transfer is performed in order to reduce the risks of obstetric complications when
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transferring two embryos and possibly the likelihood of a multiple pregnancy, so yes, one transfer is performed, uh, one embryo and the rest of the embryos are cryopreserved so that if pregnancy does not occur. or if you've carried the pregnancy safely and had a baby and decide to, uh, repeat, yes, then those embryos that crick is canned. they can be stored long enough to be transferred and become mother, the second time the third time, without resorting to the value of the standard procedure and hormonal stimulation braids with function, in fact. i had complications after stimulation. i started ovarian hyperstimulation, which continued until the tenth week to the twelfth self- fence. passed under anesthesia, there were painful sensations, of course, after the puncture. well, everything is within tolerable limits. well, how would this be done
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for a child. everything can be endured elena and how did you understand what has come, the long-awaited pregnancy on the fourteenth day after the embryo transfer , on the recommendation of the doctors, i passed the mm. did a test first. i couldn’t stand the pregnancy, but then i donated blood for hcg, which confirmed the pregnancy. it was delight. we were very happy with our husband, what finally? here it all worked out. conversations, uh, such a boy -girl began, then closer to the second trimester, when they already found out the gender, of course, they decided on the name and chose the name. i approved of the husband called alina how was your pregnancy. pregnancy didn't go smoothly. well, it all started here
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hyperstimulation of the ovaries, which brought a lot of discomfort more than a-a. then the taxi was replaced by a goat, then we had a hyperthermia uterus, i repeatedly lay down to save all the tests, all the screenings. uh, including the blood screening, which was fine. uh, the only moment uh, at the second screening, we were given uh, pre- club foot in a child, but at the third screening. this has not been confirmed. just, apparently, the child lay his legs like that, inside. all was good. everything it was ideal, how the birth went quickly, on time, and at the thirty-eighth week. mm 10:00 pm. i felt an uncomfortable sensation in my stomach. it started with severe pain, as this is the first birth. at first i didn't understand. that this is the
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beginning, but still we decided to play it safe and went to the hospital. and an hour later. i gave birth to a girl you immediately showed the girl showed immediately. well, they didn’t put their breasts on their stomach, they didn’t lay them out. doctors, and when they saw the child, they suggested that he had a diagnosis of genetic down syndrome, which implies numerous defects, therefore, the breasts, as they explained to me, were not attached or she, well, you said that during pregnancy the doctors did not find any pathologies, no abnormalities and screenings showed absolutely nothing. well, all the risks were minimal, everything was fine. nobody could even put it down. what is it, perhaps for the whole pregnancy. i did about thirty ultrasounds from different doctors from different specialists on different equipment , including the latest, and no one saw
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this pathology. why did you do it so often? ultrasound you had indications for uh fetus for a child, unfortunately, such situations sometimes happen, but in order to minimize these risks, yes, there are also. screening, uh, there is, uh, a non-invasive prenatal test that is performed from 10 weeks of gestation, that is, nothing is pinched off the baby. yes, what pregnant women are afraid of is determined by the mother's blood, the fetus cells, which look at the chromosome set and exclude chromosomal pathology. this is a paid analysis. unfortunately he doesn't i did not do this analysis as part of the mhi, since it was not shown to me. or how old are you 31 years old at the moment, well, at 31 years old, the risks of chromosomal pathology. in general, they are generally minimal, that is, up to 30 years, and the probability of having a child with down syndrome
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is approximately one. uh, 1500 case hmm age 40 and older uh. this probability greatly increases very much, therefore, in general, of course, by age to assume this. yes , well, it was, in general, impossible or how are you survived the news. when was the child's diagnosis confirmed? i can't put it into words. it was a sleepless night that i spent in tears. of course, i prayed to god that the diagnosis would not be confirmed, but unfortunately. it was confirmed to your husband
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. you were informed immediately about the condition on the same night. he, of course, too. no, they decided because of the blood type, which they put in the maternity hospital, but we found out about it a month after the birth of our daughter, a nurse came for the first patronage. i asked her for an extract, they didn’t give anything. the extract indicated that the child had a third blood group. the medical worker understands this a little. the
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fact is that my husband has the first blood group, the daughter has the second group, there can’t be a third group, so at first we thought that perhaps it was a mistake that they decided to double-check in another laboratory. donated blood received the same third group. did you retake all three of us or is there a comb? yes, all three of us, of course, we expected this result. we completely trusted the doctors, after all, there was hope, that in fact there was some kind of mistake . therefore, we decided to come to you for the transfer, to double-check everything, so that you can help us, but then having decided with her husband for a genetic examination. what result did you initially expect? we assumed that there was a complete replacement of the embryo further. when we already received
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the dna results in our hands and realized that i am a biological mother, and my husband is not a biological father, we began to eco was exchanging exactly my husband's material. this is a huge pain, this misfortune is grief. these than imagine even hard to come for your his child suddenly find out that he is not mine, that he is a stranger and someone made a mistake, in what state? husband elena when did she find out that he was not the father? the husband was in deep shock, he is us in general, as if the two of us, we were in complete prostration. we did not know what to do, where to turn, then, when we gathered our thoughts, we began to write letters to the ministry of
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health and natal center. we were just a shock, in other words you can’t say, but here’s your husband, he didn’t ask you a simple question. that's how you are mom, and i'm not dad, we immediately thought that a mistake was on the way laboratories. we my husband had no doubts that i could go to the left, there or something like that. we have a very strong family, our trusting relationship. and this is out of the question. well , how did it happen? i would very much like to know if your husband and the official father of your daughter intend to find out where his biological child is now in the studio
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. alexander said that you were very happy very happy to know what will remain. i had a marriage, well, before elena, but no children either was. that's when i met elena i realized what i want with this person have. i want children from her and how, well, more kids. so, of course, we were waiting for this child, we couldn’t even think that you weren’t the girl’s father, then, no matter how i could think, and yes, there were no such thoughts around. we did not think that there could be any substitution. and we had the documents on hand. well, they are on hand, where it says whose biomaterial, who should be the biological father. here thoughts were not such i can not
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imagine. and even thoughts when he told us about the blood type. we learned for the first time from a nurse who came to us. here she told us something so incomprehensibly written. here the handwriting is like the third one. well, let's send you a photo from this particular fragment. you yourself, well, you looked, yes, very similar to the third. well, with the growth of doubts remained. well, little and right put the hospital. well , that is, it was just decided to double-check this issue. uh, the blood type of the guys in another clinic is already there, too, to confirm that you have the third. well. i can't be like that. well, if there were, what happened to us, a complete replacement of the embryo, that is, that she’s not a mother, and i’m not a father, damn it, 50 to 50. we didn’t even consider at first. and when the result turned out to be zero, only you, what
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doubts did you have , even still remained, be certain about this issue. as far as my daughter or not my daughter seems to be but thoughts. and how could this even happen. we have a document confirming that the biomaterial was mine and you handed over your biomaterial on the same day. yes, we gave up on the same day. we are may 28, that's how it is now i remember, i appointed the time of arrival at this clinic, my wife was taken to the ward, because, well, her procedure. she is under anesthesia, it is more time-consuming, so to speak complicated, and i have a nurse for a prescription that she gave us to sign some documents confirming that i can once control the further fate of the embryos received, so that, as if without my consent, the
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spouse will not be able to dispose of them, that is, we are, as it were, both responsible for them. so she took me to a room specially opened there at the end of the corridor. it should have been closed, like this room. she opened it, and said that there was a jar with my name on the table, exactly what was on the tag. by the surname on this jar, so she said that when the whole procedure, well, it will be ready, that is, the jar is on the table and leave. then she'll fit. she will be taken away, the jar is signed. and even if on this day a man with the same surname gives, it's all the same. even though there are full namesakes in general, there is still a possibility. yes, do not confuse this material because there are very strict standards that do not must be violated. yes, when working with biological material, respectively, and the cap. even signs. she was already marked with her last name. she, of course, my last name, my initials were on her when i left this room. i
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passed by the reception. and where is the nurse there was busy talking, well, with people people clarified something with him. i said, i can still go. i said, yes, that's it, you can go to your spouse, pick her up there in a few hours, because she will have to recover from anesthesia. here i am, i'm under clinic. this is what i've been waiting for a few hours. spouse and what happened to the jar? i don’t know how busy the nurse’s room would have been. i left open, well, where i blocked and left, that is, no one locked the key. the material is taken for several minutes, then for a certain time, but processed, so nothing in this is not criminal. moreover, the jar was signed. someone there specifically something to pour wisdom. eh, well, i probably wouldn't. why alexander we have a document stating exactly what you were supposed to become a biological father. let's see. for fertilization, the sperm
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of alexander mikhailovich lysenko's wife was used. this is what we had confidence to the last, we must understand. how many punctures were there that day. yes, how many men handed over, uh, spermogram at that time in order to, well, try with the clinic in some way, yes, it is possible to establish. uh, the fact that after all the material was replaced, we came to the opening of the clinic. we have an appointment time of 8:00 am, 8 am or 8:30 am. there's no one there yet was. we were the very first and after us there was another couple who came, with whom he talked to the nurse at the reception, how would i go out into the street and , accordingly, i don’t know anymore. how many people passed through this branch. how did the clinic itself explain this fact to you then, i called the perinatal center and asked to connect me with the head physician. i introduced myself. eh, i described my situation a story. to which the chief doctor interrupted me, he did not begin to listen and said e is being checked
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on your problem. all the best. goodbye. to me it became very insulting that even hmm, it’s not that an apology, probably, is out of the question. it can't be, well, you can't even talk to me at the table. i wanted to ask. i wanted to ask how it could be, why did it happen. and how much time has passed since this call and did you write some kind of written application to the clinic, that is, there are certain deadlines in which you should have been provided, well, alexander wrote some answer to the ministry of health and to the clinic itself it's over now i'll tell the end in april, the clinic did not answer you. no, there is already a violation. yes, there is already negligence of the medical institution. first. why has n't the medical institution called and spoken to the parents so far? no, i did not explain the situation, i did not explain
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the situation. this is the first moment. why didn't they call and clarify, right? what what do we do next with your jar, what do we do with your analysis. come sign up. we have to dispose of it there. or will we keep it further, that is, the second moment, where the medical institution shows that they are already showing their negligence. everything that cannot be frozen or stored, yes, is disposed of, therefore these documents are signed by both spouses, therefore, as if there are no violations, the clinic should not call and ask what to do with what is left of elena in your relationship with anton something that changed after what happened. no, we have become more supportive of each other without support. we're just, well, nowhere alexander, elena's mother is very worried that after what happened, you will leave her daughter in valentina's studio
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polina when my daughter and her husband decided to have a procedure, you supported them. of course, i see that they have a very great desire to have children. they have a very good relationship with each other. i supported them, that the family would be complete. my daughter is closely connected with medicine. she is my nurse of the highest category , she studied a lot. she read a lot, never in her life would have thought that everything would turn out like this. did you know that the daughter and her husband decided to do a dna test? yes, i knew. at first i thought that the child could take one of the relatives. uh, blood. for example, my husband had the third group. i thought the granddaughter would take her grandfather's blood. for some reason, i hoped that like this, that there would still be 99.9% of both dad and lena's mom. i
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hope that the child will still be native. well, in principle, it will turn out 99.9%, for some reason i now also believe alexander, according to the documents, you are polina's dad. yes , i was waiting for her, i wanted her. this is my daughter, despite the shock situation, alexander is a loving dad for his girl. let's see the very birth of their daughter elena and alexander live according to the daily routine little polina walks sleep feeding strictly by the clock with breast milk. i asked myself because of the stress. well managed to feed the month. well , they have already introduced complementary foods, they are already eating vegetables and cereals, rice, corn, buckwheat, health of little polina for parents on together elena performs all the recommendations of doctors, therapeutic exercises and massage five times a day, starting from the fingertips, ending. and i’m still working out all the muscles of their
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efforts, we can’t go in vain, elena rejoices since she was three months old. uh takes items. we have her rattles everything is of interest. she is a very inquisitive girl. a very emotional smiling smile does not leave polina's face when she spends. time with dad alexander devotes every free minute to his daughter. uh, we come home from work. that is, we can take another walk with the child, then we have dinner. a family child , the redeemer is definitely necessary, and then already. let 's sleep. he is so attentive, kind, responsive and in relation to laziness, and in relation to polina alexander, taking care of polina, you often
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think about what is possible, somewhere in the same while another man also takes care of your child. yes, of course, thinking about it, because the question remains open. what happened to my biomaterial. and maybe someone in the family has my child, the doctor leading the pregnancy and the incredible result of the repeated dna test will continue in a matter of minutes. from the creators of the mask a new show avatar coming soon only
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customary in our family that the children always shared themselves with me and joys and sorrows. and i knew about all his hardships . the first for us was, firstly, a very terrible night of childbirth, that is, when he was informed that the child was sick, he was terribly worried. i tried my best to calm him down, but that turned out to be all not all of us were expected, the second blow, the second blow it was. when we found out that our blood type, i, as health workers, understood that this could
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not be just according to you. what happened during somewhere, there was simply a negligent attitude to their duties. maybe it was accidentally mixed up the material really wants to achieve justice. i hope the program will help us in this, i want them to punish their guilt, they denied and did not shift each other. i want to raise a child and give him a decent future. large investments are a lot of finances, if any amount that could at least somehow e compensate and measure transfer. i consider 25 million. the amount so that we can
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give the child. worthy, at least development in general, of course, you can try and fight this situation, but there are cases when in in the case of substitution, the establishment of substitution, the volume of materials was collected in 2 million. in your situation, the child was born. hmm, unhealthy in this case. i believe that it would be right to demand compensation in a larger amount if, in the event of an investigation , it is found that yes, indeed, there was in the actions of the staff. mm, there were mistakes, there was negligence in this criminal law aspect. and civil is the recovery of moral damages. why didn't you contact the investigative committee? in the sense of the committees of the russian federation of criminal affairs. at this stage, the investigators refused to initiate a head case, but his boss handed over, well returned him to the time
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of redevelopment. yes, they were familiar with the materials, there is no verification. why didn't you use this right? she us did not cause us questions. you can come to therefore, file a petition in different cities, but 250 km distance, he and his child ride there, maybe once they went to idle, the investigator called us 250 km away to ask just a question. he did not even study the essence of my message appeal to them, and then he says at the end, well, we will transfer another case to another district. well, the other area is one because it's not a clinic located in our area. that's all, contacted. at the end of april 20, somewhere around the fifth of april, i wrote a letter to the regional roszdravnadzor and the regional explosion. what happened in this situation, i ask you to sort it out and find out in general to conduct an audit. to which the roszdrav
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replied to me in mid-may that everything was documented well. and the myth i got answered that they would hold just a documentary check and that's it. that's it, and after that the ministry of health did not send a single letter on the 27th of april somewhere. i wrote to the investigative committee of the russian federation, this is it for us. they began to gradually lower it down, then i wrote, uh, the information center on the social networks of the investigative committee, that i suspect that the investigative committee, but artificially delays time and simply shifts my problem back and forth. and that i received a letter from moscow that they do not see any violation in this. if you will be remain with her satisfied with the response of the investigator or the investigator refuses to give up the criminal case. you go to court then, well, according to the law, as it should be. why did i write to the regional prosecutor's office. ah, the bloody prosecutor's office. we also began to throw an appeal in the wrong area, good. they quickly and in any way investigative committee 3 months. well, within a
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month they handed it over, after all, they need a department. i wrote on the government website. and as for the governor of the stavropol territory, they transferred the ministry of health for consideration. i wrote the federation council of the russian federation, they handed over to the prosecutor's office of the stavropol territory, the prosecutor's office of the stavropol territory, said that they do not see any violations of the documents. all of them are correct. they checked, and a third party ruled out in the matter refer to orders from more issued later. we even appealed to the ministry of health. and that everything is fine with them, and they added that the investigative committee. it is still checking at the moment and waiting for the check. if you are not happy with the answers, go to court, show us, please. answers from prosecutor's offices and federal services for supervision in the field of healthcare prosecutor's office of the leninsky
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district of the city of stavropol by checking violations in the implementation of assisted reproductive technologies eco , an exception was also confirmed, the presence of biological material from third parties during the procedure of your wife samarina elena ivanovna territorial body of the federal service for surveillance in healthcare in the stavropol territory. confirmation of violations of the procedure for the provision of medical care in the state budget institution. the stavropol regional clinical perinatal center has not been documented if uh the result of genetic testing was attached, which demonstrates that elena is the mother, uh alexander is not the father, but here the question is, if the woman has fallopian tubes, the transfer was carried out in a cycle with ovulation it is not excluded at 100% probability, and the pregnancy is from a man, therefore, it is possible to prove the substitution of the clinic’s fault only if yes, it will be found, uh, the source of
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biological material, yes, or it will be found, but a child from, let's say, obtained from your biological material, because the prosecutor's office is conducting a documentary check. yes, and uh you, the prosecutor's worker interrogated. and you elena well , it is obvious that such a question, yes, excluding the fact of infidelity, and the birth of a child. here, uh, a third person should have been asked by the prosecutor's office, but this was not done. and this indicates that the check, in fact, probably boiled down to the fact that the prosecutor's office sent a letter to this perinatal center. they wrote there what we have in the magazines. we are puncturing something and getting the bottom of the material. everything is fine. the prosecutor's office was limited to this. that's all, and therefore you need to go to the appointment with the leadership of the prosecutor's office, the same applies to the investigative committee, but some additional checks. they won’t
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let you, at least, you need to see which of the men applied at least that month to donate biomaterial to conduct a genetic study with their consent and find out maybe there will be a match with the girl who was born to elena elena you they said that they took the choice of a doctor very seriously. and on the recommendations of friends of acquaintances, you managed to talk with your doctor after the incident. no, my colleagues met with a doctor that you yourself chose based on patient reviews. let's listen to what he said of assisted reproductive technologies of the stavropol regional clinical criminal center. sergei is not a river insists his colleagues. they could not make a mistake during the artificial insemination procedure. this is excluded during the procedure of auxiliary product technologies all manipulations are performed individually from different times. for
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each pair separately and in the process. crossing of biological material from other e- strangers or between married couples is impossible according to the head of the department at the clinic checked no violations found. and how did it happen that little polina had a different father to ask elena in this case, pregnancy, but it could have come. naturally, along with the same institution, that is, not through it, and of course people. well, would i really go so far, come on the transfer, if everything was real, as this doctor says ultrasound june 1 hmm i felt bad. i was already on the record. uh, due to the stimulation, i started having severe abdominal pain. i ran to do an ultrasound.
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it was june 1, the doctor looked at me. there, the ovaries were enlarged against the background of this and, as it were, after that on june 2. we went hmm on a twenty then eat the day before, and replanting. here that is, you can say was convinced that you are not pregnant. well , as it were, yes alexander but a few days, well , let's say, there a week before, artificial insemination, you were next to ukraine, of course, these facts are infidelity. so i completely exclude him. after the stimulation, the wife was very uncomfortable. elena has documents. let's look at female infertility of tubal origin. stimulation of ovulation was carried out with the use of gonadotropin antagonists rezek puncture hormone follicles produced on may 28. at the age of 21, the in vitro fertilization procedure plus
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intracetoplasmic sperm injection was recommended to be physically and sexually rest during. uh, this document does not say that the pregnancy was due to a transfer. have you received any official response from the clinic from the clinic itself. we do not have a single official answer immediately after the advertisement suzuki will meet with a representative of the very clinic in which they underwent the procedure eco cheating cancellation or mistake in conducting the first dna trust of cabbage and motherhood, the decisive moments in the life of the family will come immediately after the advertisement. there is a raider seizure, you yourself know that everything is possible here alone. can't others? mr. it is necessary to close we are doing this for legally it is he who
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leomax.ru. spouses who underwent the ivf procedure accuse the clinic of substituting piomaterials in our studio deputy chief physician for organizational and methodological work of the stavropol perinatal center, where eco was done elena alexandrovna gorbunova hello, do you remember elena alexandra? yes, of course, i remember this couple . the problem of infertility. how did it happen that elena became a mother in your clinic, and alexander did not become a father of pregnant women after ivf uh, these are women
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high risk group, and they should not only be observed in a third-level hospital. this is a perinatal center. well, the kind will be resolved elena as far as we know. e, i got registered at my place of residence, and on this seven weeks all weeks, and on this, as it were, we don’t know what happened next, but elena was recommended to be observed. of course, there was no such offer in the hospital of your clinic. all women who have undergone an eco-procedure stay with us, as a rule, and childbirth is allowed. we have june 2 after the transplant embryos in the uterine cavity. uh, they closed my sick leave and sent me home to be observed at the place of residence. it's even listed on the listing. as you comment on this, i can only say that investigative measures are underway. uh, hmm was within
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the framework of departmental quality control and safety of medical activities were documented, exit travel. uh, checking uh, where there were no violations on the part of the reproductive uh , that is, our violations. yes, how do you explain that elena still became a mother alexander dad did not, if no violation was revealed. well, there is such a version, huh? can not say, well actually consider enough of the complexity of the current situation. and it is very important for us to hear the opinion of the clinic. how could it happen that a woman became a mother, and a man did not become a father, while he handed over his biomaterial . i want to say that a man donates his biomaterial to a simultaneously simultaneous
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woman, who, on that day, the function of the follicles is carried out, all this is given to the embryologist and uh, where's the embryologist. uh, so in his lab doing egg fertilization, there can't be any mistakes. why because, uh, the lab is closed, there's only one embryologist working there. and there is not allowed any outsider even staff standards and have not been violated by mistake is excluded is excluded at this point. uh, the embryologist only deals with one married couple. he deals with one couple material, so everything was clear here hmm viola now, if everything really was so clear, how then dad got not his child. perhaps this happened. naturally, that is, before that moment. how the eco operation was supposed to happen you mean that elena had some connection . no of course, i can't blame anyone. no, this
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assumption cannot be assumed that alexander did not bring his own material and poured it. of course, i am here as a representative of the clinic. tell me where are the embryos left after this program. they are disposed of with consent. e donors. you have such consent if they are disposed of, then on on what basis, because it was not written in viola's contract, what guarantees does the couple have? that the embryos are destroyed, they are used for some further procedures with other couples unequivocally. they're scrapped because uh. hmm well , they're not scrapped, but what are the guarantees ? no, well, that's the legal side. this is probably not my question after all. explain
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the documents that the family has in their hands, which were issued by your clinic. let's see let's take a look fertilization used the sperm of lysenko's wife alexander mikhailovich alexander mikhailovich, but it turns out, how is the document? doesn't the father have a child? why does the clinic not communicate directly with patients? why? do you avoid these people by not responding to their complaints? you are already getting three checks by the investigative committee, the prosecutor's office and the ministry of health of your region, but you didn’t even bother to communicate directly with your parents, what else is going on? inspection of the ministry of health the results of the inspection did not reveal violations, just in friend. for some reason you don’t want to get in touch with people to explain to them humanly what happens
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when there is an appeal or a complaint is always contacted, we always answer. hmm therefore, i think that elena alexandrovna received an answer to her appeal if they were personally nobody did not communicate, for what reason? well, for a reason. probably because they had to go first, probably, to the clinic. a version of alexander regarding his biological material. you heard i heard. i want to say that there can be no errors in containers. could lose. i do not know could drop could drop another palm off. i was embarrassed that the room is without the supervision of employees, so to speak. there was one nurse at the reception, which is located in the middle of the corridor, the room at the end of the corridor. there are chambers nearby. uh, lab or something, the door is locked. i don't know anyone. can enter there in this
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room. well, let's say no one can enter you. the children are there alone and collect your biomaterials of employees who came, dropped and left. well your the biomaterial is immediately given by the nurse to the embryo, which, even as he said, will take this jar and pass it on, but it was busy. she was talking to other reception people. well , excuse the chronology, i can't. that day it was found as part of the inspection. how many more hmm men turned in their bemoy material. how many times the embryologist performed these manipulations with me in the ward, there were four more women who, uh, were undergoing a puncture. please look at these documents of female infertility of difficult origin. ovulation was stimulated with using gonadotropin rezek antagonists , the follicle puncture was performed on may 28, 2021
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, the procedure of in vitro fertilization plus intracytoplasmic sperm injection was recommended, physical and sexual rest was recommended. parents within 14 days you guarantee that the child will come from those donors that are indicated in the documents, because you have alexander in elena’s documents, and in fact only elena, of course, it definitely didn’t work, our grateful ones. tents dialogue at the moment we we have just such a situation, your clinic somehow apologized to the family. we comply with, uh, all standards, all clinical guidelines. and uh, orders in force from the ministry of health uh. russian federation where? well, that is, the clinic does not see its fault. no , he does not see. if there is no violation on the part of the clinic, there is no fault. how could this happen? this could have happened naturally
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or she i have to ask you again if you had intimacy with another man, there was no intimacy with another man. it's out of the question for me. you still believe that your husband and polina's dna test might have been wrong. i hope, i hope, to the last we hope and that the tests were wrong, i invite our dna specialist from the stavropol territory to daria popova’s studio for many years i dreamed of a child, but both were diagnosed with infertility and elena samarina and
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alexandra lysenko underwent the procedure in the forest of compulsory medical insurance and the couple chose the doctor themselves six months ago. elena and alexander became happy parents. they had a girl, polina, but the blood type of the child does not match the blood type of the parents. conducted at the initiative of the family, a genetic examination showed that elena is polina's mother. but alexander is not the father today, in the studio, representatives of the clinic in which eco was made a spouse denied that they could confuse or replace alexander's biological material. and they suggested that elena simply became pregnant from another man? however, elena denies cheating in the dna program, the family
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turned in the hope that there was a mistake and alexander is still polina's biological father the answer to the main question in their life in this envelope elena i can open the envelope alexander are you ready to know the truth? i open the envelope. on the one hand, the official daughter of polina lysenko, on the other, her official parents are mother elena samarina
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and father alexander lysenko polina is not your biological daughter. i hope there was hope before. feels like when you heard it for the first time? you planning to undergo the procedure again. probably, most likely not, because yes, if we have such an imperfect system, we don’t want to repeat this a second time. i can't even trust doctors now . no, i won't go again. or maybe
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you still have something to confess to your husband elena no, absolutely. i’m clear in front of him like morning dew, that it still happened, i ’m sure of my daughter-in-law, and there can be no other option. elena voluntarily passed a lie detector test. here's how it all happened. let's let's look absolutely calm. she herself helps the specialist to fix special sensors on her body that will record her every reaction. in general , they cheated on this husband, no, some time after the replanting, you had an intimate
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relationship. well, the forbidden period means, and you would cheat on your husband in order to get pregnant, no. we are confident in your honesty in the right. i am confident in my decency alexander my husband, beloved and relationships can't be outsiders, i can swear daughter are ready to hear what the polygraph examiner will say to his wife. i can't be there. did the wife really cheat on her husband and there was no substitution of biomaterials, the long-awaited result of a lie detector test immediately after the
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nothing to do with keeping the child. i invite polygraph examiner oleg baryshev to the studio, we are all really very worried about what you managed to do to find out the word for you, please, i can say, absolutely and with certainty, that elena did not deceive in this polygraph test procedure, the desire to deceive or there was nothing to keep silent about hiding and the polygraph that was carried out and her answers were absolutely reliable. she spoke true. what conclusion can you give here , that there was no cheating on her husband, there were no third- party or parallel intimate relationships , and the desire to get pregnant with the help of eco was real, it was thought out, she was waiting for this child. she went to this, honestly and normatively
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complies with the requirements that had to be observed. i was in it. the answer is 100% sure that this is how it will continue to work, we will seek justice so that the clinic admits its mistake, and not denies it. that fact was in the clinic one day by stephen alexander. i think about six of these people could be found. yes , of course, and to take dna from everyone, of course, the question here is, of course, i agree. us after such a transfer, they will definitely agree marina if you show with dna that alexander nevertheless became a father and that his child is growing up in another family, what will happen next if this happens, this is definitely the responsibility of the clinic, but the issue of recovery of moral damages. here, not only for this couple, but for other, uh, married couples. that is, all this will be established. hmm, according to the situation, of course, it is up to the decision
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. hmm, the couple elena alexandrovna you want to contact the couples who were in the clinic on the same day. yes, very much, please, couples who passed eco hmm and on june 2, 2021, please respond as well as those who passed e follicular function. and the collection of ejaculate, may 28, 2021 , please, respond i will be glad in any information people, please, respond help me figure out if and you need a genetic examination. contact us and we will definitely help you. tomorrow on ntv news.
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