the show goes on. which turned international politics into a farce, ukraine cheered up why the pope and the un secretary general are participating in the performances of the ninety-fifth quarter and what will change if the bad actor with the napoleon complex is removed from the political stage ? hello, is this the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear? i'm andrey norkin. my colleague is ivan trushkin. we are working live. as you, of course, remember, professor preobrazhensky very accurately said that devastation begins in the minds. today we want

to, uh, try to understand. and how devastation is there in these heads, but it means that it is born, but in my opinion it is born there, because these heads , uh, are constantly trying very conveniently for a long time to stuff all kinds of game. here is the process of stuffing this game into the head. we so delegately delicately named the show, because when you're some kind of, well, nonsense, uh, you have to man. here in this nonsense to convince you must do it brightly. pushy long completely there without uh, nothing, not embarrassed. here are our western opponents, their ukrainian followers. they have mastered this tactic. just perfect. they have different directions. this is what the show means. putting the game in the head is exclusively for the ukrainian audience. this is a show. this is for the western audience, and everything is somehow actively supported here. let's, perhaps, we'll start from the e direction, and we'll start with the international western direction, and

then gradually all this will go on. oh, right, the show at the expo, then we'll parry all this. last wednesday vladimir zelensky staged another performance at a meeting of the un security council, speaking via video link, he again told his western colleagues the famous ones that russia is allegedly doing in ukraine this time. according to zelensky, the russians staged a massacre of train passengers in the village of chaplin in the dnipropetrovsk region and four passenger cars are now on fire, as of this hour, at least 15 people have been killed and about 50 people have been injured and rescuers are working, but, unfortunately, the number of dead can still increase. that's how we we live every day so russia, they prepared for this meeting of the un security council later, zelensky said that there were already more than 20 victims among the dead, there are children, no evidence is being introduced, he did not

provide the strike on the train in the russian ministry of defense , but they specified that he was transporting two hundred ukrainian soldiers and equipment to the war zone. these targets of our military were destroyed by a direct hit by a rocket from the kander in the photo, which publishes on the net near the train, army trucks ukrainian soldiers but the west are visible by an unqualified announcement from kiev, russia's missile attack on a train station full of nervous residents fits the pattern of the stars. together with partners from around the world, we will continue to support ukraine and seek accountability for the russian authorities. the european union strongly condemns yet another heinous russian attack on civilians in chaplin on ukraine's independence day, those responsible for the russian missile range will be held accountable. the real crimes of the ukrainian authorities, the west turns a blind

eye, even in the presence of strong evidence of one of these, a forbidden minute, a petal, with which the ukrainian military regularly fire at donetsk at a meeting of the un security council, russia's permanent representative vasily nebenzya brought it. imagine what it is. petal lying on the ground among the grass it can be camouflage. what makes it practically invisible on the ground, given that these mines are scattered all over the cities and villages far in the rear, they pose a threat not to the soldiers at all. no, they are specifically designed for civilians. especially for children who are at risk of or if curiosity pick up such a toy about the ukrainian shelling of zaporozhye and if they also said benzo, russia even spread it. look, a whole collection of evidence of criminal strikes by the armed forces on a nuclear facility, but the west continues to support the absurd version of kiev, according to which we ourselves are shelling a nuclear power plant under our control. well, we can, yes, wonder

why it supports such a version? well, here it suits my thesis well, because if you have in your head this one of yours destruction begins gradually. m-m somehow decrease. yes, you need to drink it. so we need something even more ridiculous wild in the ambas. that is, as if one clings to the other, and this is how it turns out . some kind of endless process stanislav falevich it's good that you raise your hand. just don't get mad at me, please. it seems to me that you m-m agree that uh hmm in the public sphere in rhetoric. uh, it's right to use a similar method, because you sometimes, when answering our question with ivan. you you start from so far away and then ask for such a blizzard that we even get a little lost. what are you talking about? talk to whom dad? are you talking now? am i right or the truth. well , now you want what you want, but what exactly is right or wrong, as for, and politics as a show, then, excuse me, it began the roman republic from athenian democracy, when the police went to the

stands, or in front of the people, as in case in athens or something like that, it began to talk about why it’s more correct i don’t know to destroy carthage, for example, or something else, because in the case we see that zelensky is telling, how can he that ukraine needs to continue to be assisted and ukraine is already what it is about. some arguments. if we talk about this, here is the alizelensky show, i would probably remember. e, i don’t know there, everything needs a horse, yes, and here the horse is still e, not everyone agreed that carthage should be destroyed, by the way, firstly, but here in general, if we talk about western countries, if uh, they are ready to listen to zelensky because initially. they agree that ukraine needs to be supported in it, so to speak, it does not matter. what arguments grateful spectators are ready to perceive any game. and zelensky what a wonderful showman this game is ready. grant, listen, well, you understand what the game means showed us the train

that was destroyed there. yes, and russia says that there were armed forces, e.g., representatives of the armed forces of ukraine of ukraine, you say that there were civilians there. what is the game here. well, what the hell that ukraine does not provide any evidence. and what should be the evidence, if you want to get hooked on this story? on the video footage and photographs of this train, if there were 200 people, as they say, wounded and 25, in my opinion killed, then in this train. excuse me , someone had to stay in not the most interesting and we shoot their evacuation positions. there, i don't know, there i am to my life. unfortunately, the reporter saw how burnt ones look, including, well, not trains, but vehicles, including when people are not managed to leave them. it's much scarier. that is, we are talking about the fact that this is not a game. we are talking about questions. yes? question it's good that they arise, we discuss them, including those on the program, but this is not a game of different interpretations in order for this to be broadcast. so this is a show. yes, these bogdan anatolyevich, you know, i would slightly correct the phrase of professor preobrazhensky who began the transmission of the devastation

begins with his heads, and the devastation begins with the show, that's all, this is what is happening now on ukraine reminds me of the events that took place in syria. you remember how the terrorists from isis, when they took prisoners there, let's say, what theatrical performances they staged. not from their execution. it was a complete single film here with a lot of good quality cameras. it was a super show. now, unfortunately, not only, uh, politics is turning into a show, not only has it begun. there it is from kuchma when he was depicted there in trouble rock, e-punk with a mohawk, there and so on. well , terrorism turns into a show and ukraine commits terrorist acts against the donbass and against their own inhabitants, threatening to destroy the nuclear power plant, is also a terrorist act. e sows even the border regions of russia with these minami petals. and it's a complete process. that is, each time there will be a new step. even more unthinkable and at this height. here in this , or sooner or later, her fantasies somehow must

be everything ukraine exists with or without fantasy. but this show will go on but is it not a show. there is even somewhere in ukrainian ukrainian the media admitted that you know, yes, marauders, in fact, russian troops did not kill anyone there, and so on. unfortunately the world. now they do not use information, but the show that was going on provides it with this and feeds on the majority of the townsfolk. there in the west. you see, we find ourselves in some hopeless situation. here are sitting conditionally 100 spectators who really like to watch about the fact that the earth is not flat triangular there, but some kind of rejoice at every new proof. and how much you don't want next to the globe and do not try to somehow explain to show satellite images. well, here we are in this situation. it's still cool to watch triangular ones, guys, they make funny triangles there. so there is each side of their interests and their views. this is just a very good case when one believer in a flat earth, he was fired from one company. why because

she was engaged in global positioning systems there they said something you are doing with us. we are setting up satellites. we are planning their launch of this, based on the fact that the earth is round, and you work for us, that the earth is flat, the idea of ​​​​these people will collapse when they try to do something, some technology of action based on their beliefs that the earth is triangular flat. don't know. well it's listen it's so harmless. in my opinion, still triangular, i have not heard. and about the flat yes , now, i turn the level of the show even more, if people believe that there have been 15 russian ukrainian wars in a thousand years, then, of course, they will go to war, they die there. naturally. i mean, it's the never ending story. so far there is only what u have raised actually now. indeed, the whole world politics was primitive, and therefore such a show it takes place and therefore zelensky was a showman. and so, in general, with such a colossal margin from poroshenko from the president and enjoys that he used in the calm before the war

, that now i enjoy such support, to be honest, when there were elections, and proshens against zelensky i was rooting for zelensky, because that poroshenko had already done a lot of things then, but now in hindsight. i think the firmware would not have allowed what happened, after all, he had, but some kind of cost system and a counterbalance, because it was politicians. yes, officials, despite thomas there are other things that infuriated the kremlin. he still had communication channels. for all his bugs, he had a sense of self-preservation and not only for himself, but also for his country. it is of great importance here that zelensky really leaves show business and the team they are also from there, a talented team. you know, here, and plus poroshenko well, already a virtual plus. yes, that he would not have allowed this, but now, when everything has already happened in warring ukraine, he is more effective and even for the west. unfortunately , zelensky is effective because

poroshenko’s double bottom and the fact that he is a bad actor would feel all the time zelensky is a good actor, and interesting, listen to his speech, but for the unpretentious western public, and 90% of the deputies of western parliaments are not quite uh, pretentious. here they are they don't get into the details better. he is very good, he speaks wonderful letters. these are the same people who wrote the script for the brilliant series servant of the people one, two, and even a small third part, that's why it is convincing, that's why the poll results. now such people in ukraine, uh, what kind of support he has, of course, is difficult. i'm afraid i understand. yes, but as long as they support, it does not mean yet that it is an attempt to transfer some kind of flat earth. uh, virtual history into reality for now. here she was successful. well early or later, even the most wonderful series fizzles out. well, it always happens so a bit of a

serial film there, some kind of i don’t know 17 moments of spring, in which there is a certain number of episodes. he is people. but when one season is there, then the second, but then it starts, as a rule. all this to lose interest, does this mean that this story with very talented professional screenwriters there is also doomed to lose its topicality and success once anton but, in fact. i'm trying to figure out how much speaking both the ukrainian side and in the west in plain text. they say that the most important sharply. this is the weariness of western society first of all voters yes from this tv series, so he come every time to come up with something new another thing that this train. you understand, there is nothing to be surprised here, but you can always find some, uh, object that fell under the aveo strike , look for what it was here that were civilians. and that's not a problem at all. yes, he had the task of interrupting, respectively, the argument. yes a large group of su astonished at what sit

nodding. well, listen, well, yesterday there was news, uh , the united states is officially everything. unites it, they assign it, so, uh, the name of the operation is the rest, but it’s clear that they are already saying in plain text that they are side to side, as if confrontation, it’s clear that no one there is it’s all calculated for yes and, accordingly, how would i this otherwise. and then let's show, it was an attempt to interrupt. that's like a show, but what 's the problem? you have the same problem find some thing so that something is weaker the effect is the same the same butch - this is already immediately the bar is higher here this picture is completely different the first here now this is already against the background of butch is no longer why, relatively speaking, it was profitable for them some kind of terrible situation at the zaporizhia npp because it would be a squabble, of course, it would be, but let's get together. yes, like independence according to the laws of the genre. everything should go like this, let's show examples that are not for export, which we just

showed you, but for the show import that broadcasts zelensky for his audience. there does not mean yaroslavna's crying about how the poor is being offended. there is no there, on the contrary, a solid major and a quick victory , of course. on wednesday, the ministry of defense of ukraine published a post on twitter calling for russia to surrender immediately. mol. otherwise, our military will face complete annihilation, and the head of ukrainian intelligence. kirill budanov announced that a turning point had allegedly come at the front, the russians are frightened and await defeat with horror. this is not the second army of the world. and not even the fourth and payback will come to the attention that payback will come to people when they personally begin to see and feel that the war is not somewhere out there in some part of the world. and therefore, the turning point has already begun for them; they picked up the wave in the president's office the day before. they said that it was impossible to negotiate with russia and that it was necessary to act as

harshly as possible. ukraine is interested in the most cruel displacement of russia beyond our e- borders. and our borders are fixed in international law in the ninety-first year, respectively, donbass and russia fall here afraid only of the fist. unfortunately for all other humane civilizations , the main ukrainian storyteller aleksey aristovich did not stand aside either. returned wednesday. he said that the russians are doing badly at the front, and russia allegedly itself is looking for a reason for negotiations, sitting and thinking. everyone thinks whether it will fly on my head today or not, fly. not even with me, when they threw out 100,150 rockets a day to our heads, killed the inhabitants, and we couldn’t answer how it was with him, but only with short-range weapons. it's long passed already here, we can already get the crimea and everything you want. there are two versions of the show and they absolutely work. well, it's different in my opinion. and

how is it that viewers of one do not intersect with others, some viewers are used to one thing, while others are used to completely opposite ones, if we are talking about europeans or viewers, uh, countries, the west, then this is one story, there the grateful audience is always ready watch tv series what russia well criminal country. uh, what kind of putin uh hitler is there or some other parallels, which are usually given in this sense, but when it comes to the inner viewer, but here it is necessary even more primitive, because this kind of reasoning is already called. well, no matter how it fits. this brain is absolutely correct, they really want to hammer too much into the unfortunate simple ukrainian to shove it into his head. he must be some kind of ukrainian. he must be some kind of european. he must believe that russia

is the most terrible country. wait so then, as i understand it, something does not work, if here export yes, everything is good there support, well, at least in words, money, weapons, uh, and so on, so here and there they ran, there all sorts of ukrainians are fighting there. everyone is fighting there. but as far as i understand, uh, young people in ukraine are somehow not eager to go all out to take up arms and defend their homeland. if it had been different, there would not have been these clouds, where they are handed over to the police there, which means they work, which means they are here. well , yes, it means it doesn’t work. it’s just harder and more difficult to compare when there are a huge number of relatives or people who have already participated in the military company according to the stories. make sure the russian army. weak, can't do anything, and now we'll go on the offensive. that is, for the europeans, some portuguese, of course, this crap can be easily sold daily for people who are

inside this conflict. even those who are not at the front, they do not care. three conflicts, they still know really more about what is happening could, despite even propaganda officially. can i assume that the export show will be last longer than within a day the vector will uh, and inside and out to stretch as much as possible uh, this informational the fact is that, unlike maxim, i did n’t support poroshenko or zelensky in the nineteenth year for me. it was obvious that poroshenko’s project had already , but collapsed. he was too discredited. in general, we have corruption scandals, and zelensky is in his place. uh, in general, was a convenient candidate for the west that i supported just soreness against zenith plays. i am forced in this match for some command that's all turned out to be the smallest. you have to blindfold and shout dynamo speakers. did not

participate in the elections. it is they who go through that spartak admins are russian teams. and that, really, both poroshenko and zelensky are the enemy, so rooting for you for a more effective opponent hmm you are russian, understand? you said that you were rooting for someone, you said that you were rooting for zelensky, yes, yes, that he was, in fact, it was obvious that he was more evil, because poroshenko was already credited here. and would be less why now, let's talk about this. that's what it concerns a information policy. i even any modern war any modern conflict of russia is an essential part of this important. this is an information war, a psychological war. and here we must evaluate zelensky in terms of efficiency. here are the last six months during and even before well, during the military conflict, he

manifests himself as an effective propagandist or not, here we can we have hitler, he was an enemy, we don’t like him, but was he effective marator. was he even considered by many to be an outstanding orator? yes, it must be admitted that hitler was our adversary. eh, but at the same time it was increased. that's what i'm asking if hitler spoke, so he lit the mass and they went uh forward to the east there. why does zelensky not light up his insides very well, and those who are outside in the west, they shoot there and go crazy. the question is what for these 6 months? were you able to carry out several waves of mobilization? yes, of course, those who are unhappy are those who are trying to escape so so it happens. here, imagine yourself. i do not know twenty-year-old residents. i don’t know kiev, and here you are , here is the material that we have now shown you even without our comments, but just all these twitter that we will win soon, then everything will be fine. victory will be our arrest. all russians scatter because you

look at all this, click seeds and think that you already liked it without me. everything is fine, you don’t need to be drafted ivan the fact is that the person who lives here is the twenty-year-old person who lives in kiev he is subject to twenty-four hours of propaganda. here is this endless telethon in ukraine where they tell him, they tell him they are serving something completely different. it's like that for six months, huge russia has not been able, so to speak, to solve its problems in ukraine, and they and yes tell them when it does not need to go. a little more is needed, maybe even more revenge, maybe another 2 months, another six months. and now it will be there, which means that she does not give birth to the apparatus. she is so much. i probably won't continue. sorry to say before moment when russia wins. you see, while russia is fighting, the enemy will say this , say and say and say, count on the fact that they will get tired of their propaganda, which, by the way, they are unfortunately leading for us, it means

effective propaganda is obtained, right? day 2 of the day they lived there in full confidence that berlin would not go. at least it was clear that death was written off just a few weeks before the fall of berlin that the german troops were so densely concentrated around the german capital that they could make a dash and break out of this ring and win. in general, the red army and go further with the west. so somehow there is an agreement, you understand, that is, until the last moment, this will be maintained until russia wins, and ukrainian propaganda and western propaganda will work close to the last moment by this. we are already there in december 1944. he really wants to be far away for a very long time, he thinks, he can stretch his hand. yeah, i'd just like to add to why young people don't, uh, aspire. come on and hand it over weapons go to the front, and this does not mean that propaganda is ineffective. she is very efficient.

you just understand one thing to sit in front of the tv and get sick. for the russian national team there or for your favorite team, but it's another thing to go to the field. that is, your patriotism does not decrease when you sit in front of the tv and get sick, tear your throat or there at the stadium. and you have a lot of it there, it boils, but you won’t go out on the field, because you are there, well, you get to go to work, you’re used to watching. you don't have to participate in it. if you you will have to understand something, that you yourself must participate in it. if you can, you can pin new members to make it more interesting for you to watch, but this does not mean that you yourself are an element of our life. we ourselves are members of the wife, we have a show. there is good dramaturgy. there is still a very good one, although nothing sits a little. who like re-evaluation. he's always been better now, i

don't know. when we are now discussing this topic, we proceed from the fact that the information components are one, as it were, secondary in relation to to the military component, everyone first of all talks about how the war is going on, here are the fighting. in fact , we are dealing with four simultaneously marching warriors, four wars. this is fighting - this is a political war. this is an economic war and a propaganda war, so expect that side to be submissive. so to say, keep quiet or swallow our statement is not a question at all. in fact, it lies in the effectiveness of weapons on both sides. why do we look weaker not because we are less talented even the people who are present here are capable. each of us here in the audience line up very well. so to speak , the argument. the most important thing is the carriers of this information, because on the other side, in fact , all the so-called world media of your information. that's the most important thing, why because it expands the maximum audience while

our artificially collapsed. i mean rashi today, so to speak, her even, uh, for the time being, the whole world watched it was the source alternative information. there are no zeros now, and in fact the world is dominated by a single point of view. that's what to explain is not talent. e zelensky of his team. and the fact that they have tremendous access to the widest media. now, with regard to efficiency, there is something that concerns the effectiveness of the impact on the ukrainian audience. understand what's the matter in any country to the people of any country that is involved in the fighting. i want victory and those people who say that they won, so to speak. here she is no longer just around the corner, so to speak, they want to believe it, but now the moment is coming. it has already really come and continues, when it goes on, by the way, mass desertion goes to a funeral, so to speak, and most importantly, the economy continues to fall. well, of course, they watch, well, they compare what they see on tv. and what's going on around below and they're

not fools. they are well aware that pies, so to speak, are very, very far away. so these are all the tricks that they have to go. they are becoming less and less effective and my opinion. not very far away is the moment when i’m better sure that people understand, because here is the example that the quiz now cited that in april people in berlin were still in some sort of information vacuum, they were told that they were about to everything will be fine, but i have a feeling that people in ukraine are in the same vacuum, because we are now continuing to give some accurate information there a couple of months after the start of the special operation. well, in our opinion, the most reinforced concrete arguments, what's in the situation is getting sadder and sadder, but as we see there is no movement from the other side, nothing in people’s minds snaps, so there is, unfortunately, but people feel connected. here is a young guy, i think he is chernihiv, well, he

spoke ukrainian, this is some kind of ukrainian media talking to him. so he says, i say, i love chernigov there. there, if anything, then they will defend something that you love chernihiv. he says, and we say mcdonald's is cool here. i love mcdonald's muscovites. mcdonald's closed. we cannot allow this to happen. so i can say how all this was rearranged from place to place. i would like to support vladimir karpov himself, this is what ukrainian patriotism said. it consists of what i'm looking at. yes, i hate russia, i approved the murder, i approve, so to speak, e the victim is there in odessa in the donbass absolutely i don’t sympathize with them, i’m not loyal, and so on, but as with bulgakov, you remember i’ll get registered as a ball, but i won’t go to war. nowhere me white tickets to suppose. it has all like that. here is the ukrainian khutorsky patriotism, as far as the ukrainian information environment is concerned. she's just sterilized now. what kind of

projection are you? mikhail borisovich in general, smartphones are checked if there is correspondence, calls from russian numbers or some kind of, russian telegram channels put them in the sbu who will be watching these social networks besides one blogger, he also conducted such a peculiar experiment, he, on behalf of a resident of the crimea, uh, issued instructions that this is how to run and escape from the crimea, uh, because here like a lot of missiles fall. here he was immediately quoted by the ukrainian media without even checking what he had done before. what videos did he shoot and he says that you know , the so-called wishful singing, that is, wishful singing, is very typical for the ukrainian public, and all this information machine is constantly broadcasting what they want. that is, i sit at home with a bottle of beer. i watch ours win. i hate rashka, but i won't go to fight anywhere. this is the whole ukrainian patriotic doing a little break and continue this topic in a few minutes. don't miss the events and people of the week on

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today at 17:50 on ntv it becomes clear. and we continue. i would still like to return to the role of the individual in history. if, as some of our guests say, zelensky is a good actor. and the fact that he left show business and came out with a team of very talented people. this is something that seriously affects the situation. but to fantasize a little about what happened, so that what would change if, uh, this man zelensky, he would, uh, well, be eliminated or was not eliminated in a physical sense? i'm not saying that he should be killed there, but he left, because if we believe the ukrainian side or the western press, which constantly quotes ukrainian representatives of zelensky literally there they persuaded him to run there, they gave him the opportunity. uh, save your life in one

european country in another. whether this is true or not. i don’t know, but what would change something. please show the following material in an interview published in the washington post newspaper, and zelensky claims that in the early days of the special operation, european officials did not believe in the ability of the ukrainian military to withstand the onslaught of russia, and therefore they strongly recommended that he leave kiev so as not to lose him as leaders of the resistance, but zelensky did not agree that it would be different, then we would give up power without a fight. and this is impossible. i said i'm trying to hold on to power. if the question is that i will leave and this will stop the bloodshed, then i'm all for it. i'll go straight. now. i didn't go into politics for this and i'm ready to leave at any moment if it stops the war, but there was an instruction written by the russians who would take what position, how to manage processes and

all that story about the brave zelensky was told by the adviser to the office of the president alexei aristovich, in an interview with dmitry gordon, who was recognized as a terrorist and extremist in russia, aristovich said that, together with people who understand military issues, he personally persuaded zelensky to leave kiev , but he was not persuaded. you told the president we are finished, we are finished. we directly tell us, of course, if we do not smoke, basically the end. he says, i want to quarrel with me again. he said, the last time i heard from you are the same, so that it doesn’t happen, we stay here. we shook the keys and left. there zelensky boasted in march, czech journalists that after the start of the special operation, he was advised to flee from ukraine almost every minute, but he stayed, we didn’t all say everyone told me that i should immediately leave all the special services within our state and our partners. they received signals from other countries and

recommended that i leave ukraine within three days in the spring. the western press wrote that zelensky was offered asylum to the uk, according to reports. sunday times. this issue was personally discussed with prime minister jones, american washington post then she said that the united states planned to evacuate zelensky either to lviv closer to poland or to poland itself, where he could create some kind of government in exile. now, if you say that nothing like this would have happened under poroshenko, firstly, do you believe that zelensky was really so actively persuaded to leave. and now, if he were absent in kiev weak in a leadership position there would be some changes in the course of events. i believe that they persuaded, because the westerners thought that everything would end very quickly in favor of russia, it was a surprise for them that kiev was never taken, that zelensky never left, and now it’s useless to say what would have happened. if he had gone, it might have been different. but now, if he goes to the huge, unfortunately,

nothing will change. why ukrainian society is electrified with terrible force hatred towards us is that secret tatal and it is hatred for several generations. we and they measured how you scored, okay, well, i would like it, though several generations ahead, because i communicate with them, unlike your partners, with whom you communicate with you, i communicate with interlocutors. and how many of them will soon be all for you, so tell the total in the country, there are two people here. who have the right to ask questions no. well, just, sorry here. well, he is trying your functions, dear comrades, ending in a very communist way, and i think that now the branch is leaving, it won’t change anything, another will come, adhering to exactly the same line. maybe it will not be

so talented to promote it to the west, but on the other hand, it will be more effective to organize a military point of view, we agree that there is total hatred of her absolutely definitely we are dealing with several ukrainians. actually. you should be fine. it is known that one mentality in western ukraine is different, differing in the central part of ukraine. and the east of ukraine is a mood. here are a few of your acquaintances, so to speak, for the whole of vast ukraine , which is completely wrong, in principle, because there are completely different moods, even to the point that the ukrainian soldiers who are fighting in the donbass say why we are fighting, the people hate us here. they want us to leave. and why don’t they give up, then these are ukrainian soldiers and they should be hated by the local population, about whom they say that there is a total no. recently, a poll was held in ukraine 86%

for ukrainian to be a single state of ukraine there are no political parties, when there are none and you believe into sociology. well, that's a relatively harmless question. let's, let's, it doesn't matter zelensky will stay, he won't stay. but what maxim anatolyevich said on e, as he said, is only a few parallels generation, it will all remain like this, our mess about zelensky. i think that this is part of the myth of legend. that's what a powerful person, let's say, who refused there did not become, this is cosplay. stalin is also a show, which we discussed in the first part of the program. well, not stalin, some strong leader, it’s clear, even the same hero from the series, and i’m convinced that, in fact, along with the fact that even if zelensky had left, nothing would have changed in reality, of course, because we once here

argued, including with my neighbor. ukraine, it does not have a full-fledged subjectivity and, uh, hmm, does not have a full-fledged independently again a mistake. they would have found someone else. they would have found another politician. poroshenko got up with pleasure. by the way, he is now ready for 2, please, so zelensky is now starting to put pressure on him, and so on. and uh, maybe there would be some kind of small period of turbulence, when the plane flies a little shock, but it would still be the same as it is now, that as for the hatred of several media outlets to induce new cultural products and a new strong state with a certain vision of the future will simply come, most of the inhabitants will come to terms with this. those who do not reconcile themselves can leave in history there were, oh, there is an experience of the exchange of population, even the same, by the way, u people of ukrainian origin ukraine poland, there is an exchange of experience. uh, population exchange experience between pakistan and india there are generally different religions of our target. we shouldn't look will us there to hate these problems. we must carry out our own goals of the task. as for what you were talking about, that all

these people they are from the east. yes, ukrainian nationalism itself was born in the east. dmitry dontsov is not an expression from galina and professor grushevsky is not an expression from galina. it was just breeding ground. well, let's fight this nationalism with him. the fact is that in order to fight the anti-russian radical. nationalism needs to talk to ukrainians like with the people they consider themselves a separate people and will consider themselves as such, we see even, because the name of the child's time, you understand that they do not exist senselessly. it harms harms the progress of the special operation to tell, yes, yes, here in the dnieper in kharkov in odessa yes, let odessa be there, rather a russian city, but in the dnieper in kharkov somewhere in e. in kiev, he tells everyone that ukrainians do not exist, that the ukrainian language. they exist, you know, this is nonsense, more of them now we are talking, now one second.

we say, and even propaganda, which leads the kiev regime is effective. unfortunately, propaganda, which interferes with us quite seriously, but where is our effective directed science. let us solemnly recognize that borsch is an exclusively ukrainian dish. national we can over them so daring. no, i won't, wait, i'm trying some kind of incarnation of this one. as you say, we explain to them what they are. here, let's start with borscht, why not start ukrainian theater with ukrainian cinema? tom, these know it to me stories, for example, telling the armenians that the armenians do not exist is not the best way to build one person the russian language on the fact that ukraine and our allies

will someday win there and these people will live with us either in the same state, or we will to live in some kind of union state, like belarus, something must be taken into account. and the way they are all very simple in your picture. eh, now it doesn't. this is completely impossible. if you want to tell something to ukrainians, but to ukrainian cinema. if you will, if you find any, indeed. uh, highly professional examples, they will tell you that all this means the soviet union because what they filmed, ukraine later, when peter i fucked a soldier on lata there, remember the wonderful film. here it is impossible to agree on several cities, he told us, kharkiv odessa dnipro but did not mention, kherson where the show is.

a little about this main showman. let's say a few words, because here i do not agree with bogdan anatolyevich. if there were no zelensky, there would be someone else. nothing would change. there is a feeling that this is showmanship, political unprofessionalism , they are driven, the leader of ukraine itself and all this, uh, everything. this state is quite a stalemate . let's take, for example, last wednesday volodymyr zelensky in his address on the occasion of the so -called independence day of ukraine, in fact, cut off any ways to change the ukrainian the president said that he does not intend to negotiate with russia and will fight to the end , we are holding on for six months. it's hard, but we clenched our fists and gnaw out our fate every day. this is a new reason not to give up, because after going through so much we have no right not to reach the end, that for us the end of the war before we said peace now

we say victory it would be very serious, but only a temporary victory, and developed the idea this week. i don't know yet, crimea i know that crimea is from ukraine and i want you all to know, we will definitely return it, we will return the force of international law. we are returning the ukrainian flag to the land of crimea. the roads of crimea will be the roads of europe. to his continent, the board and the crimea will be the ports of all of europe, zelensky repeats his ultimatums to russia at all international meetings with this mantra. he received receps, erdogan and antonio guderish. he also spoke with her on the crimean platform unexpectedly, remembering the russian language, they decided to occupy our country, but just as in the fourteenth year they made this decision and the world did not give them a good face, but did not give them. they

went on and on and on. and we give them more dear stanislav aleksey, there is a showman who turns this situation into a corner as much as possible as a dead end due to the fact that he continues to play, certain shows do not work like politics after a certain moment. will there come a moment when the show has stopped a critical point, after which the show will be discarded and actually he turn back into politics is impossible. i think it's like the show starts but doesn't end. we all live in the information world. and here even those people, let's say connected. the ministry of foreign affairs, what is ukrainian, what is russian, what, and so on, sometimes, in my opinion, they play some kind of internal role for the internal audience, and not for the external one, you said about kherson and i want to tell a story that is just about zelensky, in fact, did not answer with nepayevich. no, i answered zelensky will remain who he is now, but a professional politician who can speak beautifully and interestingly, who is supported, and actually in this case i don’t see all the politicians. this is a person who can

make some decisions. it is possible even for him in the moment to decide on one country of life. and here he turns out to play the role to the end, and the role is excuse me. if we are now talking about the show, there is an end, only one is the final of some kind. here is either some in the direction of antarctica. we all have different roles. yes, i what about kherson is very an important thought to say i have such a problem. i think that many, uh, viewers of our calls from banks, supposedly from banks and bank security, supposedly have it. there on your took a loan so something like that. i usually just hang up. but the other day i got a call. i wanted to talk so much there stanislav no, i'm the only one with words. oh, but i can talk to stanislav. i say, and you first tell me whose crimea is, well, there it is, but on the other side this girl was. she's so russian so good as well kherson pause no, i can talk. if stanislav. i say, well, you tell me first. that's whose kherson a. i'll think about it later, whether to talk demolished no, she thought, ukraine and

hung up, of course. where the girl was from is obvious, but here it is, what it shows shows that nationalism is patriotism and obstinacy. they, as it were, to some extent do not play some pluses or minuses. i'm from the very beginning of the special operation. if you remember, there, the task of the fourth day, starting to say that and if i were in ukraine, i would simply surrender, because you don’t need it, because you don’t need to fight. i am in any one more argument one more argument in favor, so to speak, i am right then. and we know that now some russian cities and regions are taking patronage over some cities that are now under the control of russia and ukrainian. yes well, there and donbass. yes, in principle, imagine, if it weren’t for these narrow-mindedness, uh, ukrainian nationalism and patriotism, which zelensky personifies there. imagine the 24th . they would have surrendered and all of russia, all the cities. would be obliged, so to speak, to support there to take patronage to restore well. i’m talking around, then right with them, according to the soviet scenario

, it was wonderful, as in the soviet union the rsfsr was a donor, so to speak, of all the outskirts, and now we would play this zhur - we would restore the soviet union of beautiful russia would restore all of ukraine entirely. this, in my opinion, would be great for the rest of the mushrooming bold lively, and most importantly, relevant thought. this is a speech, firstly, a small remarque answer to victor let's not distort on official level official. nobody canceled, not ukrainian. the people, not the ukrainian language , moreover, there are more of those where the gifts are still permanent, they say, i don’t care for i went, i’m talking about the official level, the official level has always been respected and, as far as the ukrainian people, ukrainian moreover in all the territories that are now under our control, as far as i remember correct in the schools of instruction, including in the ukrainian language, who needs to be canceled, but in my opinion, it was still the least such thing that everything should be canceled. everything, the rest is still signboards, a bitch on the ukrainian mountains, therefore, in this sense, we decided in this sense

. and we went to discuss, do not understand what, first. that publication protected us all, that is, they took the topic somewhere, that publication that was. here is washington late, which was indeed referred to. this is a continuation of the formation of the cult of personality. some icons of democracy on the one hand strongly like this leader, well, in the eyes of the public, who now tell him that there is a belief that some personality does not correspond to democratic ones. uh, like a devil, but on the other hand a person who does not cling to power. although we know that a person, well, dictatorial inclinations, how he struggles with the political authoritarian, when everything means everything is clear. uh, all these talks are different, to ban the talk that zelensky is not an independent puppet at all, to which they control and allow us to make some mistakes, then we conclude zelensky due to the fact that he was just pumped up. dripping and he became more popular than many there, well, right in the united states, the most

popular politician - this is not biden. this is not trump , this is teletsky, in fact. they made icons of him and continue to do so because he is able to manipulate through western public opinion to manipulate politicians, which he does. you know what, i overplayed it? here he did not transfer them, he uses them in many ways. they think he controls them, and he them uses, but not americans americans and americans, including when victor said, look very important thing victor said, here it is customary for us to believe that zelensky is such a nonentity, in general, like something at all victor zelensky enemy is true , but the enemy is an talented, passive name, if it weren’t for zelensky all this period, everything wouldn’t be a little different if zelensky was like stanislav olegovich and at the first opportunity, such as surrendered and surrendered or himself? at least it was easier for us, of course, of course, because he is now playing the role

of cementing the nation, on the one hand, inside ukraine, they did this from the point of view of their eyes , not ours, but they went on the right decisions complete censorship. for example, an example, by the way, this washington post, in short, it’s time to end the washington post with headlines that he would, uh, would recognize the authorities, for the sake of it. this is positive news about him, yes, well, something like that in the top of yandex is simple. the information company write is a quiet horror and works in mode. get your point across view, including for us try to read something in ukraine that putin said. well, listen to us, this is a joke, because they are really in the information war on a slightly different topic. i, too, would be happy to bring such an informational order, but that's another time

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continues i had girls and guys, but i was not happy with them. why does sex with animals become? in the west, it ceases to be a rarity in certain circumstances. won't such a cultural progress kill western society today freedom of views above basic values ​​and why even ukraine is not yet ready for such a mental upheaval? about it right now. to this meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. we we continue the conversation about these stuffing shows. eh, in the minds of the townsfolk different game. so we talked in the first hour about how, uh, ukrainians. this is done officially by the ukrainian authorities

in two ways. here, and now let's talk about such a generally more global attempt to shove game on the head of an inhabitant in the planetary. scale game. now it will be such that, to be honest, i need to somehow prepare for this, because i decided to tell you a little about a good show, because our programs have resumed season. here we are, when the second week is over and, accordingly, resumed for my meetings with you in real life. eh, it's in september. i invite you, firstly, the very next day i can be caught in the south, gelendzhik on the third of september, the city recreation center and on the fourth, the legendary summer bandstand in anapa on september 23. in moscow in the amaret club, then on 24-25 i will be in yaroslavl rybinsk and on october 8 so i run ahead of the big hall of the cinema house of all muscovites, guests of the capital, residents, i invite the moscow region interesting, although 18+, but i will remind you. this is that i will write about everything, kashchenko will definitely write this show of a

healthy person about all this. and now let's pass an unhealthy person. i can like how it means, you know, that's sometimes even in the studio, well, during our program. maybe you remember laughing at an extremely dramatic story that was broadcast on one of the broadcasts by our colleagues on another channel. this story e told about the fate of, er, a turtle, which means they were raped in the copenhagen zoo, in my opinion. yes there it was building geography, but telling in a dramatic way. i 'll tell you more. in general, as if laughter with laughter, but imagine on the spot. the telefauna of the free democratic world, i would n’t feel completely sexually safe, so the game bring the game to us, please, in every sense of its kind, the september festival of dangerous ideas should be the platform and the legalization of bestiality, which will be held in sydney by those from the

catalog will be dedicated to a separate large discussion behind the meeting is the british professor of history, jana burke, author of a book on human love for animals at the festival. she miscalculates a lecture on ethics for aphile and will suggest including zoophiles in the ranks of the lgbt community, that if there is another model of love for animals, non- violent non-pathological people who prefer animals pay close attention to their needs and preferences, lovers of sex with animals have long been pumping their rights into in germany, since 2014, rallies in defense have been held in the center of berlin. afilov, to which participants come with their four-legged partners, all this, despite the decision adopted by the bundestag a year earlier the law prohibiting cataloging for violation of this law provides for a fine of up to 3,000 euros and a prison term of up to 4 years, however, animal lovers are not afraid. they are open about their

hobbies. i wasn't sure if what i was doing was right. i tried to build relationships with people. i had girls and boys, but i was not happy with them. american journalists are sure that a little more from the catalog will become one of the new norms in western society and the zoophiles themselves will stand on a par with other sexual minorities. after 15 years nagil parades will be isophiles. why not? how to forbid someone to have sex and announce the sexual desire of animals when it comes to diversity, and if you say that bestiality scored evil, it is reasonable to ask. and why do you say, it's disgusting, but he will gladly answer that disgust is not a reason to prohibit the free expression of private desires. and if you had time to read, here, uh, on our screen the title of this article was bestiality colon drop last taboo

vladimir vladimirovich here. well let's be honest we will talk about the fact that the west is rotting it with schoolchildren. i heard it too, really. uh. it must have been invested. basically some kind of economic. that's the meaning of this, we are now talking a little about something else. is this the limit or is it not the limit yet? or some other taboos have to fall so that , well, somehow it's all not related to this, like, uh, you know, oh, they rot or oh, there taboo fell, what is it? i have a completely different attitude to this , you know, if you say for a long time that a nuclear bomb will bomb and half of humanity will disappear, then thank god only 100,000 died. that's the whole statement, strong. history, this operation of distraction. then she is very serious. she thoughtfully explained and thought or somehow everything happens means in the late sixties. uh, one of the most popular and most famous psychologists in germany , by the name of kentler, launched a program, uh, for the

adoption and custody of street children by pedophiles. senate. berlin paid for this program. when the keinker died, he was so fashionable that he was visible on every talk show. he he gave advice at night to people of his book articles, they were published, it was not just fashionable. it was tren. are you a psychologist who led certain concepts, including the struggle there, er, with what we are talking about? we are now talking and the senate of berlin actually paid extra money and gave it to pedophiles who adopted six-year-old seven-year-old street children. children, then they grew up, thought of going to the police, when it all surfaced, they all clapped their hands and put out this scandal and said no, no, that you are still alive, we can do it see? i got it, yes, that's hmm yes, so you want to say that from one sexual horror story, but a distraction. well, i would agree with you, but in general, this story is in no way uh, not

in germany and the festival. uh, uk aunt - this is also not a german this topic. now we will sigh on this subject. why would they come up with a law once upon a time there sexualism was prohibited by criminal articles were exactly the same all today the vice of sex. wisdom a huge number of lobbyists there to lower to 14%, but still global here. uh, as it was said. this will become the new normal. uh-huh and for all of us with this, how to continue to live is the last such mental, besh, yes. let's now those who like a creative person. they argued which of the creative people here first. and to remind us of the famous rhyme, a necropeda came to us today for dead little ones. sonya some authors that is not. i thought that pushkin no, according to albertovich lobkov, our ex is excellent. yes, to me,

in short, i once again tell me at school that this is much more classic. here is a necro-peda. for phil already many, many years. everything brings its dead little animals scary. and look, yes. this perversion must immediately tell you how to understand, in general, what is perversion when you cannot get the consent of a partner, neither a cat nor a dog can give such consent, respectively, you know the argument. yes, you know the counter-argument of this, but it’s better than killing, because the cow also does not give its consent to be slaughtered, so i want to refuse, including meat in some future, and parking agreed to your strong ones were devoured. i'll still get this far. i haven't arrived yet. so here it is in my opinion. and what different systems work, see the system in which more freedom always contains

more garbage. this is not advertising, but there is the iphone and there is the android iphone closed system. there are practically no junk applications in the store, and in android there are a lot of them, because everyone can go there and there is really a lot of rubbish and every system. himself in a steady state with the help of his logic, so the west is with these, means for filami pedophiles and necrophiles. they are in a stable system. for many years now. precisely stable stable every time i overcome a new one they say it shakes. it's the same, if you wait valery, i can't agree with you, because well, i'm sorry, and in the west, well, so far. eh, a lot of what you listed still didn’t consider the norms, maybe they don’t consider it a perversion, but now, in my opinion, there is an attempt to remove this rank of perversions from this. this is the norm. hmm it

trying again she is very many years old. there is such a writer gabrielle vitkov, who is not 50-60 years ago, and it has long legitimized everything in the elevator 60 years ago, international congresses dedicated to this topic were held. that's how it is now. well, a classic of european literature, i have been studying this one person for a long time. i have not studied such a facet, such literature, unlike you healthy leila, but the official events that want to legitimize this topic. it seems to me that they didn’t pass again, it’s just customary to discuss on any topic, though, i'm afraid. let's discuss, you know, but let's talk. on the one hand, if you go into evil, that a man can be with a man, a woman, a woman, because the shelves there, like nature, once it allows it. so, let's allow it, then it catches on this one, of course, because of the affiliate and whatever. maybe, yes, it

is considered as some kind of gifted prospect of legalizing all these things, but here you need to understand the mechanisms of political mechanisms , such as, for example, all this lgbt history has become, accordingly, as if legal, after all, as it is happens either on one side. there is some kind of group of people who, accordingly, there, well, this community of the field is starting to be active about their rights. well, it is significant enough for politicians and on the other side of politics that we started with such a bright and memorable topic. you are a little around her sergeevich. seriously, right? we are just what it sounded like right now, that the last mental frontier and after it all this sounds quite often, we will now just give you a few examples for the twentieth century, when you too there was a certain boundary at which everything speaks after that. the sunset of europe, the fall, everything that is unknown below, but it is still falling and each time it did not

roll up and did not catch up. let's take an example an important stage in the development of western society occurred at the beginning of the twentieth century, when the suffragette movement was born in britain. they demanded that women be given the right to vote. the activists staged demonstrations and chained themselves to gates and doors. glasses were broken in government buildings and the houses of political opponents of the newspaper were set on fire, then they wrote that freedom-loving girls shake the european foundations. true to their goals of the movement. nevertheless, european countries, one after another , allowed women to vote. among them were women involved in the frank. violence planting explosive devices, explosions of warehouses , an attack on private housing, historians are still arguing. is it possible to talk about outright terrorism and the terrorist movement, but in those years they really caused alarm and fear, european society received another blow in the sixties, when the sexual revolution broke out. it was spurred on by

the appearance of cheap and affordable contraceptives. as a result, sex has ceased to be a taboo topic, and what is now called traditional values. more and more receded, revealing clothes, including miniskirts, and promiscuity appeared in the background. were no longer a crime. older people who did not understand the new wave wondered what was wrong with the new generation, that then a large-scale consumer revolution took place and, as a result , sexual revolutions if you look at something last years, at least twice there was a sharp surge in sexual activity for the first time at the beginning of the 20th century, and for the second time in the 1960s, europe overcame the next mental milestone in 1989, then denmark was the first in the world to recognize same-sex marriages, homosexual couples received the same rights, as traditional except for the right to adopt children, however, already in 2012, danish

gays received. and it's true today in 20 european countries, including germany, france and spain , same-sex marriages can be registered, while according to last year, the european court of justice ruled in luxembourg that all eu member states are required to recognize same-sex parents and their children as families. i will not rest until the equality union is established. the union is removed. you can be who you are and love who you want without firewood and antonovich's accusations, we killed you. but please, without without, these were the moments. again , after which to say something like that we are now in the studio, europe somehow does not end, right? just one thing about bestiality bestiality, won't it fucking not legalized, because there are much more people who protect animal rights there about a person is important to you. for you, the topic, but please return to what we asked you about these things.

history shows us that everything is changeable, you know, in ancient greece, ancient rome rolled up . lgbt in everything was hooray then there were times. so it was under the ban, then again it was with a bang. and here you did not bring, the main example, well, all these sexual revolutions american 60s and seventies new yod in no comparison to the sexual revolution of the soviet union twentieth year after the revolution. we will now give you this example and even show the plot. that is, you want to say, quietly screwed, put things in order. all you want to say is that, uh, these are not issues to worry about at all, everything goes without saying somehow. i didn't say that. i said that this is a problem, about who needs to be worried, for example. much more promising topic, for example, polygamy. uh, here's the next step for lgbt for europe and for the west because sociology is a huge

number of people. it supports for politicians. this is the electoral base. well, that means colleagues , you understand the question here, because the matter is not in specific. uh, the name of a particular perversion. let's see how good it was. you know what, in terms of history. but e, why is this not the last frontier of this, what does it show? why last frontier? why because this is all done, when, how, when the political elite of the country allows it, it is, firstly, weak. she flirts with politics. and you won't believe it, it's cheap. this is much cheaper than maintaining the level of morality. wait, but they allow it precisely from weakness, and not because they are interested from weakness. from weakness , everything else is already manipulation. and then it's cheap. and i want to assure you. you know the absolute majority of the population of these countries

the united states germany england, when you talk to them, well, these are absolutely traditional people who bring them up to orientate everything this manipulation. it's all presented as a kind of hmm progressive change in life consciousness, of course, that is, here you all lived, of course, traditionally nothing. but this, yes. it is not simple. in the service in turn, so, see how convenient it is. there are politicians who need to have a good talk , to say what they can talk about best, but to freedom. and what if we talk about the economy, problems may arise, because as i said that i am talking to you about the economy, listen, something in 5 years, not a damn thing happened. and here, there is always this one is in the sixties. well, returning to the plot, yes, the second wave of the sexual revolution, if you see this lady, that this was

just some kind of weakness that boomed in the sixties . this is political weakness. she doesn't want to do it. here, look how the power. if e the politician who is in power starts to prohibit something. and as we see them, we see it very well. this is the minority, it is aggressive, yes, so if it is forbidden, then it means. what to do? look like they take a farshist, means under the white pen and means her. uh, time konstantin aleksandrovich we can't imagine that a man votes. oh no, a woman, therefore, that scrapping and that conversation about the end of europe turned out to be good in the end. although tell you then the policy of 1900 to the beginning of the xx that now, when women will vote everything will be fine, he took it. quiet, can i ask him a little question? here you say good, yes, then okay, but you think it

that is good that now lystras will become prime minister of great britain elections. evil let's not. let's see, maybe it's worth nominating deputy zhuravlev for the post of ombudsman for the protection of western animals, but if he is serious, you understand, the pendulum is swinging, we are talking about a traditional society here. here are the sixties, and in the west, but there was a reaction to that in the very conservative fifties, and the very conservative fifties were reactions to the unbridled twenties, the so-called rowling ivantis. what were they called in america with a variate show with a girl and all this we are talking about before

that, the conservative post-war soviet union was by no means conservative, as has already been said here, so, that's very briefly. this still leads to some correct good good, changes or not. no, well, at least an example of shuffling. here we are looking at a traditional society. here the russian empire was a traditional society. romanovskaya but well, we read dostoevsky sonya marmeladova, or is there kuprin's pit legalized prostitution legalized child prostitution in the russian empire, legal according to the law. this is a retro tradition of the russian society of the revolutionary sea, wait. those are not. it ’s just that we then twisted it, and then from the country with all these such complex matters and continue. the man found out that he was

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answer nothing. next example of your predecessor you want to say? beyond the new season today at 16:45 on ntv hamster is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. we continue. let's now see a story that will take us back to that period in the history of our country, when we really looked much more progressive than the whole world, here colleagues found a quote from one of vladimir ilyich that vladimir ilyich said after the victory in practice, but the bolshevik revolution everybody prohibitions regarding sexuality must be lifted. we have a lot to learn from the insurgents, even

the ban on same-sex love should be filmed, it was poetic, and then turned into a political institute. so let's see. with the advent of soviet power, the idea of ​​values ​​and morality in russia changed dramatically . the bolsheviks simplified the procedure for divorce, allowed abortion, decriminalized homosexuality in 1925 . soviet demographer. grigory babkis, published an article on the sexual revolution in russia in which he claimed that the ussr was then much more progressive than conservative europe while european legislation considers this a violation of public morality. soviet legislation does not distinguish between homosexuality and the so-called natural intercourse all types of sexual relations are considered a personal matter of each criminal prosecution is carried out only in cases of violence abuse or violation of the interests of others, at the same time, a movement of

radical nudists arose in the soviet union down with shame to its ideologists, was considered a friend of leo trotsky karl for some according to the public, the soviet revolutionary alexander vantai was involved and is credited with the famous phrase that having sex should be just as easy. like drinking a glass of water, members of the movement walked naked through the streets and declared that shame is bourgeois prejudice. at the walls. the kremlin even organized a nudist beach about how shocked the townsfolk were. vita nudist radicals can be judged at least by the notes of mikhail bulgakov september 12, friday, a bright and sunny day a new one of these days appeared in moscow completely naked people men and women with bandages. over the shoulder, off with shame, they climbed into the tram, the tram stopped the public, outraged. no less impressive manifestation of progressivism in soviet society were the parades of athletes in the mid-thirties, they were held on red square and acquired all-union status in the

soviet press. it was argued that these parades were a new type of monumental grandiose art, fit young people in shorts and colored t- shirts and torso-heads with banners of different colors produced an indelible impression on contemporaries. impression, however, the sexual emancipation of soviet society. it did not last long in the mid-twenties. the party leadership came out. they condemned both the theory of a glass of water and the movement was given shame, believing that it gives rise to sexual promiscuity and in the thirties all mass actions ceased so michael why this progressivist breakthrough turned out to be so short , it’s like all this for us. first, first of all, why was it that we had a really very wide wide -ranging revolution that couldn't to affect only the political, component of the life of

our country, firstly, they changed, in general, the whole country was changed in power. well, and, accordingly, they tried to change morality. behavioral little men were impregnated to change certain norms, because they built something that is most important, what the soviet countries built. well, here is a man, but a new man, what is called here, as lenin wrote? what is communism? now, if you have read both the state and the revolution in his book, he tries to answer this question several times there, and each time says, yes, we do not know how it will look, therefore, here is the electrification of the entire country. this means that he himself did not know what communism would look like and constantly wrote sincerely about it, therefore no one knew what the new man would look like either, quite possibly, he should be naked, but impossible. but he must be gay, it is quite possible that he must somehow walk in parades. here, uh, in such a form in shorts, as we have shown there yes, but

after trying it, uh, nina, mm, the majority of the population, how they reacted to this later, as the minister said, semashko yes, health care, well, somehow gom in our climate is unhealthy to walk. yes, we will get sick. here is some more rational approach, it became necessary to prepare the country for military operations. uh, walking around naked and drinking a glass of water. uh, there, entering into some kind of sexual relationship with everyone . this is a lot of diseases of all kinds, a lot of some kind of problems, therefore, i think that the solution was just a rational way out of such a kind of moral bend. at the same time, in the last part. we have mentioned legal prostitution, including child prostitution under the russian empire. it just doesn't fit. here in this here is the theory of the soviet bend. that is, some bends. we were still going there prostitution. these are hundreds, well, in the extreme

case, there are several thousand people for the entire empire, and here the massively introduced norma behavior is an attempt to introduce it, as some kind of new behavior progress young man, unfortunately, the task of various forces is legalized and you don’t understand enough about that well, you yourself translated the example there with dostoevsky yes, it’s unlikely, uh, sonchik marmeladova was hmm, a representative of uh society, uh, which is all of society. yes, i loved support. yes , someone there could feel sorry for her. and what mikhail borisovich is saying now is all this, down with shame and so on. this is the state. here there was an attempt to make the norm, really mass order. yes

, i know that they gave out tickets, there, uh, one cannot calm down in any way on the topic of bestiality, the second with brothels in the russian empire. can you somehow a little word to vladimir viktorovich, who has been sitting silently until now, and so about cultural bestiality, look, and so the soviet society of the twenties and thirties is unconditional. this very progressive society, the most progressive on the planet earth, in soviet russia, the word progressive will also get a negative from us. yes , as a liberal evidence of strength. actually. here , like soviet russia, they looked at it as a center, as trendsetters, as a country that brings something new. why? can i finish after that enter into a discussion with me calmly

absolutely so. eh, why are we now looking at some conferences with such attention, it doesn’t matter if they are pedophiles, necrophiles or someone else, because we look at western society precisely as trend centers, we try on this shirt on ourselves now on the planet. the earth is a traditional and very archaic society, where pedophilia is legalized, where bestiality is legalized, where there are a lot of perversions that are different from our point of view. we do not pay attention to this, because we are wearing this shirt we don’t even try on ourselves, but their example is contagious for us. and at that time we could become an example for the entire planet earth, and therefore, when we missed such an opportunity, we missed it, in part, no, we ourselves rolled back smoothly, because our society is very traditional and it vomited out, like a foreign body, these ideas sold shame about and the extermination of the institution. families of this people did not accept people were from this, in contrast to the progressive elite,

which has long lived by this, read leskov in the middle of the 19th century. this is pure disease. sorry true, pure politics happened just a civil war. an experiment experiment was conducted at the state level. and they are limited, it was done. why were people given freedom? this, by the way, is the right thing to do with the nep to save money. e freedom in the economy freedom in this freedom in this, so that people calm down, because it's all distracted. yes, they were distracted that these things showed him to this. there everything was more terrible there rape on rape. he was not doing that who the fuck t-shirts go, there the men raped women, because a glass of water, because it was a state ideology. this was completely with the state, then other statesmen and specifically began to understand that sp. and this whole garbage, i apologize for the expression, the country is driving a dead end,

order. the point is not that society, but traded or did not tear off another turn. excuse me, there is valery valeryevich, you immediately, as now, here is a modern liberal. uh, right here in the chickens, that is, wow, all this progressive. stalin replaced repression. he said a very good word. experiment. see there is a laboratory format. yes , when scientists get together and do really dangerous things, for example, the price of a hadron collider. yes , he scares everyone with the fact that he can create a small black hole and destroy us all, and some restless citizens say. and why are you accelerating the particles there? don't you understand that you can destroy our entire earth , they say, but this is a property of science, if such a territory appears, if people have the opportunity to conduct experiments, yes, then they begin to do this. therefore, depending on the historical period, one side begins to laboratory, then the other then they begin

to change our twenty. clear. yes, that is, a ban on something like that will immediately be repression. i’m translating a few today, because what happened and how it happened, i’ll just give a parallel, which means that in europe and in soviet russia you could buy cocaine in a pharmacy. uh, for a headache. here he came in, use what they are famous for, what element he has is the sixtieth in the seventies, the cia launched the process of legalizing drugs, what effect of drugs and starts again every time, like drugs, the sexual revolution only begins when it was the first time it was according to your experiment, and the second time after the experiment, the cia clearly knew what she wanted, why she launches a line on drug traffickers side get used nuts alcohol stop and

when the unit of society in the form of two homosexual men did not care about that family, by the way, workers bring certain benefits to society, these all pendulums, they work, and every time it brings it back to morality, it begins to triumph, as a weapon against according to your experiment, we stop. let's take a little break. hearts warm in our project, because we are always ready to share our warmth, the new season from september 4 from september 5 on ntv with a bank loan

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or order on our website leomax.ru the show avatar from september 3 at 20:10 on ntv is the meeting point on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. we continue. unfortunately, we cannot show you what is happening here during our breaks. what discussion? and i would very much like to, but i i always deposit. i just haven't heard laying right now. useless. it was necessary to hear that's it . yes, this stream, nevertheless, is about survival. here is this progressive at some of our zeros near ours. uh, the territories here are ukraine, which is now trying to somehow, i don’t know, resemble its older western comrades, these big ones here, perhaps in europe all this is no longer so particularly relevant, but everything continues to somehow enjoy it there. let's. in early august,

ukrainian activists launched a petition with the demand to legalize erotica and pornography , the authors of the idea are sure of the times. today, many hard people have lost their jobs, and employment in the porn industry is a great way to earn extra money, moreover, such a ban no longer exists in the entire civilized world. but the progressive ideas of ukrainians did not end there. in odessa, the monument to empress catherine the great was proposed to be replaced with a sculpture of the american gay porn actor billy herington. proposed project for a monument where actor billy herington will sit at the bar stand with a bottle of beer. thus, we will win on several points at once, the rejection of the infamous russian heritage and the loud statement that odessa is not some provincial town of the russian empire. secondly, a clear signal from ukraine about the support of the lgbt community in the third is fun and funny with this

vest, the government of ukraine agreed on a bill on the legalization of the medical channel . the initiative was enthusiastically received by the ministry of health. the document must now be approved. verkhovna rada first of all, we are talking about the medicinal properties of this plant, which scientists still admire, and unique developments and studies are still being carried out in order to understand . . and their influence on our nervous system and the body as a whole was thought in kiev about the rights of sexual minorities. volodymyr zelenskyy considered a petition calling for the legalization of same-sex marriage in the country. and although, by virtue of the current constitution, to legalize such relations. now legally impossible zelensky promised to think about the options. victor zhozevich, for whom are they doing all this

for themselves for the west, or is it such an attempt to me, this is closer to the third option to spite us to freeze our ears, no. here, most likely, this is not done in spite of us, but the fact is that since ukraine is uh dependent in the political military sense now uh is comprehensively dependent on the west, it somehow looks at the trends on the trend at the trends of social trends in western society . they want those they depend on. and who are they for? look from the bottom up in europe, far from legalization in all countries, they are trying somehow, i just doubt that at some big negotiations they say, one second third. and also, to be mentally similar to us. you please drug milan in the west now in brussels in washington, the main thing they are interested in, because kiev is for kiev to fight. in russia, so that ukraine fights with russia and does it effectively. this is the main thing that they

are interested in will there be legalization, cannabis or not. will be. will they legalize something to do with lgbt people or not? this is essentially. few people to pour out now? uh, western or these political few people are interested in what they do in ukraine , they do, in fact, themselves, following the trends in the west, but ukrainian society. here , ukrainian society was correctly noted earlier. it 's actually quite conservative and it's highly unlikely that it will go the way. and for example, hmm france or germany in some they are so somewhere more along the way. yes, there is there are zap- there are countries in nato that are very conservative, which even have some problems with, that is, at certain points, as far as lgbt rams are concerned, ukraine will rather, uh, take a position that, well, maybe not close to poland, but not like like in france or germany what i want to ask, when was the last time you were in ukraine. that's how you are. drown that there is a conservative society on this rhetorical question. not i can

answer. why, rhetorically, it means that in ukraine i was in the 2000s, and the dpr is not understood by vladimirovich and when will you last two years ago? that's nothing now a second, wait and what you know right there in those days, for example, the plane lvov istanbul on sunday alone the men who went to the brothels of lvov well, for example, today the whole society. it's not exactly what it means. this is planned legalization. this is a different story. yes , there you can buy such cannabis at the station at any geographical point, which means lower drug addiction. dirty drug addicts, there is a chemical drug addict , fashion is flourishing about trends, and now on these wave just politicians, they say, guys. look how progressive we are, and the russian monsters want us progressively. beat, and then what proof of progressiveness? they don’t just want to kill us ukrainians, but also our

progressiveness and it starts with lgbt rhetoric plus and so on, it’s just that there are mutual speculations of society, far from being a conservative youngster with a drug addict completely. this is nonsense. still, if it was 2 years ago. see everyone quieter. this is a question about conservative or not the conservative never tried to carry out, because vanya warned me that he was no longer taking pictures. yes, he said andrey vladimirovich you don't go to this post, because it will be strange looks good. i say, here you can remove this so that i can move. i agree. here is the same can be here. yes everything, thank you. yes, it means that when they tried to hold gay parades, these gay parades were heavily guarded, because

otherwise these gay parades would simply demolish an active conservative society in ukraine, which means took down cool. what do you want for? why do all the stubborn once now govern ukraine for what? actually, all this is being done, there are two reasons, the first reason for this is economic and legalization, and cannabis and pornography, everything else and prostitution is an opportunity to earn money for the budget. by the way, for example, they write about it in petitions. here in these implementations. this is some kind of opportunity there to fill our colleagues, and this is internal political information, they throw deliberate informational occasions in order to show that life goes on, that everything is progressively civilized like this war is war, but life goes on turning off attention, that is, there are two tasks. all of them are not guided by any west. it's cleanliness in this case. no, i mean, the west won't particularly care for

the bombs for that. do not put natural processes. when we discussed. it was in the soviet union in the twenties and thirties someone mentioned the pendulum, that you are the society of the tree itself, a fan of ukraine and everything will pop out, the pendulum will swing in the opposite direction and or these are some other transformations. history, as far as i taught it, looks like this. yes, and classic said life will swing to the right, swinging to the left. this is how it works, and how it works and how it develops, so this is simply the essence of the historical process. there's your partisanship in america when one comes, then others come, they are the same, so i say it again, first the laboratory works, some people look at others, then they start to change places. this is history. it's just that we live there for a short time, yes, but then again, books give us the opportunity to do this. see, as for the monuments, i'm here the first day i say that everyone needs to hurry up to the meter of

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some of these taboo moral boundaries in modern progressive western society vladimirovich well, look, pedophilia is allowed. no, necrophilia is allowed. no, yes fillets are not allowed, but, in some us states, abortions have now been banned. there is something to work on, dear comrades , there is not quite understood? your answer. well, okay, here in the traditional values ​​there are abortions. yes, yes, yes, in western society, as such, in the population, moral values ​​exist and remain. but when we talk about the political elite, politics, the political establishment. that's where taboo and moral principles died 50 years ago already completely. it is clear that viktor zhivchik was and prohibitions exist in any society and in any class in any stratum. it’s just that they are different, it’s important not to wishful thinking. uh, the enemy does not rot strong and tough and will use

every opportunity to destroy us, so do not calm anton to lie down. yes, of course, everything is everything, it is preserved. the key story is the request of the people, if these fools are cynical politicians, that there is some kind. the number of people who can bring them voices, they begin to promote it yes , they remained, because we are part of western society and the western mentality, and in this case we are and these values ​​remain with us vladimir vladimirovich but learned from yesterday's immorality to make today's morality. it is the politics of technology. this is the root of evil speculation abuse, but western people. they are the way they distinguish between good and evil mikhailovich well, i think that europe has already rotted several times, then europe was originally, which we are talking about christian europe and it is no longer and for a long time. yes now there is no next europe which was humanistic born there with the revolution in

france it died as a result of 2 moral values. in my opinion, we and some french people actually have 98. there, 95% are about the same question. which society has more taboos that this society preserves within the framework of these moral values? here we have more of these taboos, allowing us to save better. well, off topic. in general, in fact, i will not decipher one uncle comes to the doctor and says, the doctor knows me. completely disappeared i just don't have a sexual desire at all. no way. well, let's examine you examined, the doctor says, well, i think it's okay. you're just out of shape. we need to pick it up, but physical activity will be needed, come on. you try to run 10 km a day, and in a week call me and decide. what to do next in a week call the doctor. hello, this is me. uh,

you told me to run 10 km a day and called you a week later. i'm in my seventies now kilometers from the city and what we will do next it was a meeting place that cannot be changed, 14:00 will not be ntv by this minute in the studio i am healthy. hello