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not that childish, but some kind of, well, infantile. i would say so, it is necessary to stop the shelling, - said mr. georgia, well, very well, but he did not say who was shooting, that is, apparently, to say that it was russia that was shooting, but here conscience was not enough. and they were probably afraid to say that it was ukraine that was shooting. here is such a line, it has not been translated, by the way, the president said today, he spoke at the eastern economic forum. he complained very much therefore about, well, let's first get this report from the mgt. the report, which at the meeting of the un security council presented by the general director of the mtt of the russian federation or georgia following the results of a visit to the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant , the main conclusion made by the experts around the plant was not very informative, it is necessary to urgently create a security zone around the plant. and this requires the consent of all parties. yes, physical attacks, voluntarily or involuntarily, the blows that this object received, which i could personally see and evaluate along with my experts. it's just unacceptable that we're playing with fire and something very, very catastrophic could happen
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. apparently, they were embarrassed to say, but the report indicates that russian war equipment is located on the territory of the nuclear power plant, namely trucks for transporting personnel in kiev, this news caused an unprecedented east the iaea confirmed that russia deployed military personnel at the zaporozhye nuclear power plant, this was published in the report of the iaea mission in in particular , it is noted that the plant has military personnel, vehicles and equipment in various places of the zaporozhye npp, including several military trucks on the first floor of the turbine halls in power units 1,2. it's perfect unacceptably russia is a terrorist country against the backdrop of these accusations, the so -called ukrainian food deal raises more and more questions. it turned out that it works only in favor of western countries, as our un vasily nebenzya said, the export of russian grain
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and fertilizer to world markets, prescribed in the agreement, has not yet been launched, while ukrainian food. they are exported all over the world. the same topic was raised at the eastern economic forum by vladimir putin. he said that almost all food under the deal was sent to the european union they are in poor and developing countries so out of 87 ships loaded by the world food program. the un sent only two to those who really need it, this is only 60,000 tons of cargo out of 2 million tons. and all this pressure that was put on us, uh, from uh, means our uh quasi-partners uh and our geopolitical opponents. eh, it was based precisely on russia's call to ensure the interests of the poorest economies to prevent starvation in these countries. and we, of course, have done everything to conclude these
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agreements, we adhere to them. everything we provide. it turned out that once again , just as the people should say, they rudely swindled not only us, but also the poorest countries from the pretext of ensuring the interest of which everyone is doing this, but this is an obvious thing. and why did we combine this grain deal in the plot along with the report. by the way, speaking about the grain deal, putin said there that in general it is necessary to consult. he says i will advise. he wants to somehow discuss this topic with his turkish colleague, because russia and turkey were practically there, but the main ones cities of history, the turks too. in general , they cheated a little in the same way as stanislav valerievich did us, and that and the other example. it 's really ours. not our habit. tradition, i guess we follow the agreements. we fulfill
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our obligations, but time after time we get uh sheikh in return. that's about the report mgt. well, a lot of our experts. right now, andrey nikolaevich said in advance that there would be absolutely no zilch. yes? well, maybe you will pass me some argument that will convince, but you always say that you need to talk there negotiate that will convince me that we need to continue to follow this practice. well , firstly, when we say that we are always right in this situation. i said that we always follow those agreements. we fulfill our obligations. after all, not everyone can agree with this correctly, that is, we agreed, that is, in this case, wait if you evaluate the address, if you have committed to something . i made a commitment. i'm here from time to time every program when i see you, i give you. e some question in the hope that you will answer me. you usually don't answer me either. as you say, what the representative of agatha said, he very carefully said that
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there are indeed arrivals. yes, what can i say? he's not a ballistics specialist. sorry magi. it's not about who shoots from where and where. yes, they came to find out what exactly yes, let's say. so he said, supposedly, it means shelling, you and i here, it seems to me, we agree. what do you think the director of the iaea if he could not say it out loud. he somehow silently hinted on a piece of paper and wrote it to someone, and he indicated there who was firing, who should stop. he shouldn't be writing this. here are your papers, another important point. here, too, it was in the plot relatively. military equipment that was on the territory, unfortunately, unfortunately, i came up with this to show it. that's how it is. look, when you go to war, there is one army against another. and if the sniper is one army. yes , some building entered the warring party, where people are located. only unfortunately, from the point of view of another army. i don't
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remember this to the program when we showed this technique. these are trucks for transporting security personnel. natural protection of the natural russian points should be there, or something, the russian national guard, it does not participate, heavy military equipment cannot be placed there, no war is right. and you offer to know your offer. this is what i came up with. you offer to put her in these trucks standing there to talk and get her out of there and hope. on honesty in observing ukraine some kind of there are no agreements yet, that is, first they need to be reached at least that no one is shelling. so at least these are not the same agreements. no, unfortunately, we count on the honesty of the ukrainian side that it will not be so. well, it's not she, the ukrainian side is turning stanislav alekseevich let's
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andrey nikolayevich know the word die hard, i hate to be right, you understand that we are now discussing this once again. i more than like it. here's the opposite side because this speech is in the spirit of a discussion of rape on principle. and, perhaps, this lady is too provocative department. well, perhaps there was a reason to shoot at a nuclear reactor. no, if you want something a student of such a global scale, there really is a half stand on the reaction, if you want to engage in nuclear terrorism. you have a reason to shoot the reakt. and if, as they say, you have eyes, but nevertheless you start to do something or you do n’t understand what is happening. do you imagine representatives of the international organization, be it rich obse any abbreviation. enter. unfortunately, we continue to play cards with cheaters who continue to do what they have been doing for a long time, and it was said back in the fourteenth year on a date. it will be the united states. do not forget that you are the losers of the country, and this is the problem. they generally do not see fit in the losing side to carry on. some negotiations. they think that we should be
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forced to surrender. this has been going on all these years, not even since the fourteenth, vladimir vladimirovich and the munich speech. no one wants to find, but also our conditions, and someone wants to force us to force us to kill in the end, to detonate a nuclear bomb. and when guys, let's not do this, they tell us, no, we will continue to act, because we like it, because we act and consider ourselves in this right, andrey nikolayevich, who is not on the side of what you are saying now, i conclude that how would you call with international organizations. at least for now, no business at all, because these are the same cheaters with boxed cards, then it turns out that with these international organizations, continuing your logic. we should not talk at all, because this is my opinion is correct, but i think that now it does not make the slightest sense to talk about what you are talking about not from any international organization. what's the point let's do it. this is what we understood very well in advance. russia understood very well when it approved the mandan, specifically this
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inspection at the gas turbine. will. they could only this is not a military mission. they could only assess the damage that was done to the station. and what is going on there in terms of its security, and who is shooting there? who is doing what? who's guilty? who is right? it wasn't included. now. let's not waste time, wait for this mission. why it was profitable for russia that's the point? why did russia know perfectly well? what will they write about this, why did she go for it? because if russia had not agreed to the presence of this inspections, then all western countries and ukraine and others, by the way, and third world countries they would say that they would say that russia they said. that's why russia is not allowed to go where the mission is, because they keep saying this. so here let's go for a few minutes without shots. yes, that's the grain deal. it's not for nothing that we stuck it in the same plot. no
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one will shoot anyone there. it was said there that without ukrainian grain there will come a terrible world famine , the entire population of the earth in africa - it will definitely die out, because they have nothing to eat. we say ok guys. we don't object. let's you pull out your mines there, which you got there in the port of odessa and will quietly carry them out. we and the turks will be, so in your ships, it 's good to accompany them there, they loaded the ships. and now i'm telling you about the courts. yes, of the eighty -seven ships went to africa, all the rest went to europe this is the invisible hand of the market, quite a visible hand until roskomnadzor does not allow us to name this hand, because we want to name it, please, we we play iaea schulers - this is not a schuler magatet - it's just a tool. uh, shuery. we played when we concluded this very grain deal, about which you just spoke, forced us to make a concession. and this was the game of a sharper, that is, we made a deal. we made concessions, but no one is going to fulfill the deal. and here, in the case of the
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nuclear power plant, it is obvious that they wanted us to make one more concession, what arrived. the magat mission did not arrive, it is clear that the west will draw conclusions. eh, unequivocal in their favor. uh, here, uh, the main thing is that we did not make concessions in relation to the zaporizhzhya npp regarding the organization of a dimetarized zone, the deployment of some kind of contingent, but the transfer of ukraine from refusing, respectively, hmm, from us to stop supplying electricity to ukraine. this is if and so on and so on and so on. we should not make any deals, because it is impossible to conclude them with cheaters. wait, we are. i heard correctly. you rather take your time. that is, you admit that we are making some concessions and we will go further, but i will not call it concessions in another way, but i do not exclude that there is. i am sure that we will receive a proposal from the wealthy to create some kind of security zone around the zaporozhye atom power plant, and i do not rule out that with our amendments we will agree to this agreement. and why, in the first place, to
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close this little forest, but one more front, nothing will close, it will continue in exactly the same way in another place. i'm not talking about shooting. i'm talking about relationships. this ukraine is a treaty able side. and as soon as the country's specialists, the situation turns out. we are now talking about the fact that we are negotiating with quasi-partners. yes, this is putin's expression, but we get it. and the fact that we were cheated, and you say, well, you do not exclude that we will still go with our amendments. we will agree and times will continue to squash every such move of ours perceived by those who are enrolled. it's just that after february 24, you need to think in the logic of february 24. do you know what surprised me? yes, alexander, what are you always telling us with twenty-fourth of the biology of war and so on,
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but with each e your new performance. i see that this one is yours. such an impulse, it becomes less and less obvious, you begin to explain to me that it ’s impossible, it’s impossible, it’s impossible. that's right there in the center of decision making. let's get between us. they can't? that is, if earlier you looked like a turbo-patriot against my background, now it turns out what to do, don’t talk about what you need to do in the logic of february 24, 22, you can agree to a security zone and around, uh, hare, 3 km, 4 km there, they will still demand concessions further you, someone rich turned to us with a request to stop the special military operation. no. no, it means that it is necessary to continue it on the other side of the dnieper, it is necessary to occupy its bridgehead and liquidate it and go further to krivoy rog zaporizhzhya. can i then
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come on, let's go to kryvyi rih porozhye, if we are really aware of where and how we can go, maybe this will clarify now. here is my question, as it were, which i asked you just now. yes, the edition hill, we quote him quite often, very american, they have an authoritative there, so they write that if earlier in the beginning the americans were somehow not embarrassed, but tried to hide information about the supply of weapons to ukraine that is, now they have stopped doing it. why? let's listen to ukraine with a weapon that could inflict serious damage on russian forces, and unlike the start of the war, us officials are no longer concerned about moscow's reaction, explicit support is very different from the early days of the war when the american government. it seemed he did not dare to list.
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what exactly was sent to ukraine so as not to provoke the wrath of moscow, but everything changed due to the fact that the cream could not fulfill its threat. now us intelligence is painting russia as a country struggling to maintain its own institutions. not to mention taking revenge on western countries for helping ukraine, i will not use this phrase about the kremlin’s threats here now. putin, again, at the eastern forum once again reminded us that we are militarily nothing started. we are trying to end all this, but they are no longer afraid of moscow's wrath. in vain on voynevich konstantin you can’t do anything wrong earlier than you need to, and later. they have to do everything on time. now, yes, the ukrainian side. we remember, yes, how many months the race has been under our control. ukraine has now created a knot of
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tension out of this. our task is this knot of tension , uh, remove the boards. and continue military work. this is the main tension, we are trying to unravel it or cut it, so to speak, atomic power plant power plant, but this knot of tension. you can probably fix it by moving it away. there is such a term, but those ukrainian troops at the distance that they cannot absolutely is that we will agree with them and not. no. in general, i began with the fact that, in my opinion, it is time to finish negotiating, on the other side of the reservoir on the right bank. e of the dnieper and we know all three settlements, of which, more precisely, next to which their batteries are located. but this is a very difficult military operation, because you can't force it. and so it’s clear to come in around, so don’t be offended, but your task is just to
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explain this to me and to everyone who asks me these questions there, because people have an opinion that what you say, we need to do, and people get the feeling that we're not doing anything right now. you understand, that's why you're telling all this. yes, this is a difficult military task. but then you have to lay it all out on your fingers . here's to those who are having trouble with you right now. let's just say why are we so about the nuclear power plant and so on, because ukraine is there for about actually. ukraine is now being shelled, everything that can be reached, for example, in the kharkiv direction, this is reported by the war correspondent of the armed forces of ukraine, an attempt was made to attack the attack on the kharkiv region, according to the russian military , the planks ran, managed to frustrate for support. the infantry that beat back continues to beat. with this on the ground, our aircraft regularly fly out to strike at the accumulation of enemy personnel on enemy armored vehicles, however, the situation. there, again, as reported by war correspondents
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remains uneasy, returning to the zaporozhye nuclear power plant no appeals from the international community. no reports, rich no words of some international experts that ukraine should stop these shellings continue every day. over the past day, ukrainian troops fired 15 times at the city of energodar and the zaporozhye nuclear power plant from artillery. a total of 20 rounds were fired. three of them hit the station directly, one hit the roof of the building. ac another fell not far from the power unit, and energodar itself was de-energized due to damage to the power line. in the area of ​​the nuclear power plant , vladimir putin also drew attention to the danger of such strikes, speaking at the eastern economic forum, not often talking about it, but even trying to carry out a terrorist act on the territory of the russian federation, undermining high-voltage power transmission lines. e, close to our e-e
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nuclear power facilities. well, that is, they purposefully work in this direction. e. why? hmm what is the point of creating threats for the whole of europe, to be honest, i don’t really understand, but they continue to do this and continue to kill other strategic objects of power. nova kakhovka was informed of mister rockets fired at the city itself and at the hydroelectric power station, the russian military managed to intercept 11 himax multiple rocket launcher projectiles. due to the fact that directly the danger of oil spills resulting from being hit and inflated by god's cruel drag aggregation love the safety and security the plant's security has been withdrawn operation problems will be big trouble for what it means, which could lead to nuclear development over the weekend. ukraine again shelled the antonovsky bridge across the dnieper in kherson as
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local authorities said, the bridge is now closed, as it is in disrepair, it is almost impossible to drive through it, which greatly complicates the transportation of food and medicine. yanina lazarev i think you will not argue with me that the shelling of a nuclear power plant is terrorism. right do i understand that terrorists, and in this case we are talking about the armed forces, are inspired by a certain impunity. so they do not feel any punishment for one terrorist shelling, they continue to do it again and again, or i misunderstand this logic. you explain to me how in fact the word terrorism never saw. although tried to find good, yes, but rich nonetheless. somehow. here, unexpectedly, she showed herself literally breaking your fine line. well, i noticed military equipment. he didn't need it it was
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surprising to notice her russian media because, because in fact they had to report on the state of the reactors, power units and the nuclear component, that the ukrainian armed forces are rich and have noticed this military equipment and have the right. on terrorism, or what ? i asked you about the logic of terrorism on the territory of ukraine and on the territory of ukraine, the ukrainian armed forces have the right to do everything that they, say, a nuclear power plant. it 's already good. you don't deny perfectly. i don't agreed. i don't know who will fire there. i have a feeling that everyone is shooting there. i think that we are in ourselves, and the ukrainians follow us. yes , it looks great that the ukrainians are shooting themselves. no, i tell you according to your logic. do you know who is shooting? that is, it turns out that according to your logic, we shoot ourselves, and the ukrainians shoot us correctly. i understand you, i cannot understand the military situation. i am not a military expert word to god an expert
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on other issues of our time and not on lazarevna. and tell us for 3 minutes, and that you don’t need military equipment that someone sees there, if you don’t enter, then don’t touch the military equipment. the guitar situation will get better then and then, the humanitarian situation your troops entered the chernobyl station was the most difficult humanitarian situation in the city of slavutych, which was left without electricity water and food, then your troops left the chernobyl station. note for yourself, it means that it is yours to look for there or our common troops for the soviet period. i'm telling you, now he doesn't want to talk about them. i didn't ask you about that. you only you, too, please return to our planet. i ask you in logic. why is putin also perplexed. why shell an object, the shelling of which can lead to disaster?
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why are you doing this? why does the question require an answer . who is the answer to the question? who does not give anyone, so i believe that the way out of a difficult situation, where was the entrance to the shoes of the zaporizhzhya fairy tale. according to zaporozhye, so emphasis, yes, refuses to answer. but the power transmission towers near the kursk nuclear power plant on early russian territory, about which our special services reported that they were ukrainian saboteurs of a power line pylon caught these saboteurs of a power line pylon to blow up. why it for what purpose to do? for what purpose? for what purpose does the ukrainian saboteur do this if, firstly, i don’t know who explain the logic to me. was this fact, the only fact of the explosion of power transmission poles i know you agreed with you, amazing in order to say that you want to see nothing you can blow your brains out. you blow up so successfully that i was in gelendzhik in anapa for the weekend
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questions that came to me. eh, here. well, probably there at 30%, then, as for the transfer at 30%, the questions were related to you. this once was enough for you last week, er, to appear on the air, and you blew the brains of everyone vacationing on the black sea coast. isn't it strange that russia is shelling itself at the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant, i don't know if it is for the purpose of catastrophe, but at the same time, it does not shell the other four nuclear power plants in ukraine with anything at all, maybe then, if suddenly, can i agree, and so on and so forth, thank you, i know, because zaporozhye is the largest in europe well, we see it now, therefore, it would be easier for us to get into a big one than it can be blamed for this, then why don’t we fire at rovno there in south ukraine also chernobyl, there and so on. if it is we who are being blackmailed, that is,
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we all understood that you analyze very well. now no more. and konstantin well, let's talk about the logic of terrorism. this is from impunity. i understand correctly. well, of course, this is impunity and from the feeling that the crash close, so they go breaking bad, like the nazis in their time. they went to the hardest. performance especially before the very end before the collapse, so here it's all the same game, but the most important thing is different. why they demand demilitarization, because as part of the demilitarization, troops will have to be stationed there. moreover, the troops, in theory, are not even ukrainian anatov third forces. this is the name of the danish troops, and then everything is very simple after all, what is the problem in ukraine now is the problem. uh, continents of troops trained and trained and the desire for nato to get involved in this war, ukraine - zelensky is constantly asking for this, so let's say there is a reason to deploy some even
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police forces there. but if a provocation with the death of one, two or three of these policemen is then organized there, then this can serve as a formal reason for the introduction of nato troops into this conflict of intervention in full volume with all the ensuing consequences, so i consider that this shelling of this zaporozhye npp pursues this main goal, the second goal that is pursued is, of course. e is the question of blackmailing europe because this is a counter-offensive, which despite the local ones. and very dubious successes ending in disaster , such as, for example, at the headquarters, here it is forced and unconditionally, talented and prepared smart , unconditionally, the enemy is the commander-in-chief, he is a pledge general. he categorically did not want to
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carry out this offensive ; either you advance either you or we stop funding and support. it was still august 17. this was said, respectively. here again we are returning, if the military understands it that way, but they are forced to obey the orders of the political leadership of the country there. so the political leadership is acting like this because it feels its impunity. quite right. it feels its impunity. that's a plus. in addition, it still works for that simple reason. the political leadership that it hopes to blackmail europe in this way what to do about impunity? how should we react to this? that's all great. you explain, but andrey vladimirovich i will tell you only one question on this topic, to which i have not been able to find answers for the past six months. why does the zelensky administration work? why does the
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general staff function? because we are told that this will not bring any real changes. yes, i can say full responsibility. it’s even here to explain that this will bring a very serious blow to e from the integrity of stability, for example, e, defeat and physical elimination destruction. this very team of the administration of the manpower of the personnel of the presidential administration is paralyzing the political activity of ukraine as a whole. experimental knowledge is elementary knowledge is brewing a new sport. let's. we will now stop konstantinovich defeating the general staff - this will paralyze the possibility of modernizing. here, wait. let's stop and start here, so as not to be interrupted, while we have not really started yet. we haven't started arguing yet. let's let's do it and then we'll talk on central
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continue. come on, we really just just outlined it once again. let me remind you of this dispute very briefly, if you missed konstantin litvinovich alexandrovich, uh, they have different points of view on how to react, so do we need to strike at the decision-making center, if we consider the office of the president of ukraine as the supreme rainbow under these centers, headquarters, and so on and so forth, alexandrovich believes that this will not bring, indeed. really. here is some result konstantin valentina considers. come on, i’ll add to you right now, in addition to these offices and so on, but the strategic object is those that allow the ukrainian armed forces to adjust new weapons equipment to the front line, what do we do, what do we not do? in june, russian precision-guided weapons hit the strategically important skid-free tunnel through the carpathians in the lviv region. through him to ukraine was transferred most of the weapons, equipment and fuel from europe in kiev, they say
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that blocking this artery to the end of russia failed and everything is functioning as before, russian troops once again hit the railway infrastructure on the lviv railway, three passenger trains are delayed. they are in safe places. passengers are not in danger, and just in case, they clarify the information about the striker is not true for reloading equipment to the southeast. ukraine is actively using railway bridges across the dnieper, our military destroyed part of the traction substations that feed these routes, but there are still ten bridges over which trains with equipment are being transported to ukrainian troops. like long -range weapons destroyed six traction substations in the areas of railway stations krasnaya from dolgun zhmerynka berdichev koval and bones, through which foreign weapons and military equipment are supplied to the ukrainian group of forces in the donbass in may, our military
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disabled the railway bridge across the dniester estuary in the odessa region, along which trains with weapons and fuel from the west went from moldova to the ukrainian authorities hastily found an alternative to this route, restoring in august and raising the railway, abandoned back in the nineties, which is thus trying. uh. well, let's just say to disrupt certain logistics between the southern regions of our region and the main part. if in the area. uh, we will work on resolving this issue, with the ukrainian army. he firmly believes that our missiles do not hit the same place twice the other day became. it is known that one of the workshops of the kremenchug plant of road vehicles in the poltava region, where our military destroyed a large ammunition depot back in june, was again converted to military needs. armored vehicles are being repaired there, and the railway leading from the plant to the line of contact has been restored. so, that is, if
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we do nothing at all with political objects with strategically important logistical ones. we don't finish it, or am i wrong? well , first of all, we are doing e and not finishing it here, i believe that the military is military infrastructure, and so the civilian infrastructure that serves the military needs in ukraine should be, we cannot divide it into a military one, and this military infrastructure that is used for military purposes should be destroyed. just remember one thing about everything that is being destroyed today. tomorrow it can be restored about the fact that our missiles hit the same place twice, they must hit twice and thrice, like under not like like the liman bridge five times we killed it over it all the time restoring it to do it is necessary to undermine logistics ukraine, why are we not doing it so actively then? how do you feel about this question, because i
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can say, so russia has enough aviation. a slice in order to solve the problem, let's say , conducting an air operation to destroy not even with missiles, but with land mines and air bombs. that's all the infrastructure. we have long-range aviation. we have front-line aviation to solve these problems. i believe that this is connected solely with what certain political decisions. i've always talked about it here this special, special military operation. it has as many red lines from them as military history, probably, there has never been in any war yet. here, or even in the operation, therefore, uh, in fact, we are talking about the fact that we see military operations against the front line of the enemy. yeah, we are acting tactical depth. this means that the warehouses to the headquarters are here, and even further, even for the operational decision, the
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strategic episodes are also separate episodes. and very rare, of course, from the point of view of the basics of military art. it is very strange. i am i can only say one thing, that if from the very beginning our troops acted, as it is supposed to act according to the alphabets that are taught as a basis, so to speak, in the academies of the military academy of the general staff of the same specific academies, then the issue of ukraine would have been resolved even two months ago. we repeatedly. here many times they talked about striking at the decision-making center , at some others they shouted about it to beat. it is a fact that this is not happening and needs to be analyzed. why for what reasons is this potentially such reasons do not occur, maybe not like, but maybe several times, but firstly, is there enough information, or the ability to destroy, and now we are
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not talking about an object. specifically. it is clear that we know where the generalstadt, prosecutor's offices and so on are located. it's clear to everyone it's known there are those people who are the same e, hackneyed by slaughterers and so on, probably. they are in very, very safe places. that's enough, obviously. and here in this case it turns on, and such a question is the pros and cons, that is on the one hand, attacks on a political infrastructure yes, already such a military-political one in the center of kiev, somewhere in a large city, the capital, and at the same time, will these strikes be able to achieve their final goal? that is, it will be simple and then, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, so then, in this case, the following calculation can potentially be that these buildings will be destroyed with some kind of victims around them, which will, of course, the west and other countries somehow in a twisted to the fullest at the same time people who are there, and who are trying, it means
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to somehow work on them. they will still remain in their shelters. and they will be unharmed. this is one moment that can, uh here. introducing the second point into the calculations can really be fears that if there are such strikes, then there will be some kind of response , which will be on a different scale than before, there may be some potential fears in this sense, we see we see that we already have government terrorist attack and a person died, what and what opportunities do they have, and on our territory this is also a question, so there may be simple factories here. you, in general, can say the same thing, right? what hmm our capabilities, but you understand that there is a massive mass transfer of weapons and the west to ukraine, they are massively in the army well, unfortunately they have been turned over by these western weapons, and it is already operating effectively, including,
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unfortunately, therefore, what we do not destroy. it 's in that. how many are the capabilities of the russian armed synod at the moment? destroy all these targets. but what if if you act differently so, if not for these goals, yes, it’s not to concentrate on them or on some political objects there. and i want it now because now, by the way, it solves another problem. i'm talking about electricity supply in ukraine e. they are very cool, they really work in the field of propaganda, but turn it off at the time and you can't pull out this poisonous pity. of course, he cannot transfer everything else, and he has already started hospitals to do this. let's, let's. we are here this story about a possible shutdown in ukraine light i want to no no let's, we'll see now.
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in addition to the zaporozhye nuclear power plant, which is now under the control of the russian military in ukraine, there are three more operating nuclear power plants khmelnitsky rivne and south ukrainian, in fact. the entire burden of providing the country with electricity rests with these facilities. in kiev, they are well aware that it is not so difficult to de-energize the country in such conditions. since september, the khmelnytsky nuclear power plant has been taken under heavy guard. well, we have strengthened the security of those who served in the armed forces of ukraine, those who passed military service, who worked in law enforcement agencies. for example, police representatives are all firefighters, we all hire to worry and western journalists, as reported by the wall street journal in kiev, fear the shutdown of the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant from the ukrainian energy system and even turned to the mission of the rich for a sadist saying that russia is bombing the nuclear power plant to steal ukrainian electricity. this was not a misguided shelling that could have caused a nuclear
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holocaust, but a deliberate move towards russia's broader goal of stealing electricity, zaporozhye having severed its connection with the remaining territory of ukraine in the 10 days that have passed since the start of the attack, more than a dozen missiles hit the area around the nuclear plant of the facility, which before the war provided about a fifth of ukraine's electricity, the ukrainian authorities are concerned about the future fate of the thermal power plant in ukraine 19 combined heat and power plants. the kremenchugskaya kharkivskaya has already been put out of action due to an increase in gas prices, however, in kiev they consider the main threat of the upcoming heating season to be missile strikes and call stock up on generators. if you leave the military profile for technical cities, they could create reserves to purchase mobile heat generators, which could be used in case of contact with a thermal power plant as the main source of heat. we need to have a certain reserve of such generators in the country and, in the event of attacks, include them in
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the network and duplicate the functions that the central heating network usually performs bogdan anatolyevich well, we just started talking about some kind of power outage. here we are, alexander yuryevich, you would suffer genocide, it would suffer peace pump. i said the power outage and not lazarevna. it also works impossible. turned on the fact is that from a military point of view. there is no such thing as infrastructure, civil or military infrastructure, but it is very weak infrastructure. simply there, it provides logistics for the delivery of ammunition and fuel, without which, in this case, they can really provide electricity, which means that electric locomotives will not work and the railway will not work if we destroy the substations. we can apply a number blows, even a trip, we are still accused of striking at a nuclear power plant. why did vanya hear what alexander yuryevich wanted to say when you remember, when an energy blockade was staged in the crimea. remember when they
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blew up the power lines there, and our territories said what we want to do evgeny kiselyov then said, eh. well, what does he say, what is there in the hospitals of the world? no, it means that putin arranged it all. let putin now save these people, which means that the occupiers should be responsible for this themselves. of course i don't want so that i can now say that i behave in the same way as kiselyov and call for this. only that precisely lazarevna. he said that a is our territory. what we want is what we want, we want what is being shelled, we want to shoot it. we want to blow it up nazar prikhodko generally said that radiation is nothing special . no. they are already drawing maps with a wind rose. we know how the infection will be and so on, but they will still be accused of genocide. we will kiss them on the ass or, accordingly , we will strike at this infrastructure. if we want to win a special operation, we need to deprive fresh troops of fuel and ammunition. we must completely de-energize ukraine to live under the water of fuel, so that not a single locomotive fleet, not a single gas station works, so that everything is to hell, great, here you are alexander i don’t know if you hear him or
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not, he tells you this is our future citizens, maybe not all of them, but it is clear and obvious to someone that it is rather strange to talk about these future citizens. right now we have turned off your grandmother, who was lying on the device, because that there was no light grandmother did not. and now it means welcome, well, it turns out. if we then think in this way, then this spice. let's have to throw meat. more. she is not lazarevna, deprived me of the opportunity to judge clearly, but nevertheless, he discussed our liberal bloc very much, when it means that you call it wrong, but we really have a special military operation. and ukraine is nato war, and we are at different speeds. i'll explain to you why. you know here we sit now the moscow studio. we reflect, we had elena lazarevna here, and now imagine that we, comrade kazakov, are sitting with the arresting officer and also reflecting on the same topics in kiev. i think you can imagine this picture, but it turns out that we are still operating in the fight against nazism at speed, a special military operation with
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restrictions imposed on ourselves with our hands. that's how we try to gore the enemy's head in fact, and more every time we say, in short, you suggest, uh, declare war. but to carry out mobilization in general, here, i can tell you one thing, anything. i'm just historically, so that again they don't write me down somewhere, because we decide there, you know, we had it in history. damansky island, when we were not yet friends with china, but on the contrary, for quite a long time they tried to extinguish this conflict with the forces of the border troops and changed their attitude only when the frontier troops of the soviet union began to bleed. so, then we arrived at the grad stops and turned for those who are on i lived on the farm, just at that time, so big we are afraid we will reach the point when we already have to make very tough decisions simply, because there will be no elections left, we would not want to. let's stanislav alexandrovich first. i, as a reflective russian intelligentsia, have already immediately picked up opportunities, and for the second time
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in the last six months. i am out of phase with well turbo patriots. yes, as unreal here on february 24, when i was critical, how do you uh? everyone remember this spoke special war, remember we all remember your quotes, but you don’t think it has changed much, so to speak, improving the well-being of our citizens, as if everything is insecure, so what are the patriots for, well, that side, yes, uh, said that you don’t understand anything bosses, you know, in general, where you were 8 years old, and now, six months later , the situation seems to have changed, that is, now part of the pipelines are already mentioned there. well, in the decision-making center. come on, infrastructure, come on, and so on, someone else's changed, and i sit and think, the authorities look. and the authorities are more visible the authorities spent six months conducting the central military operation and realized that, in general, it had to be carried out in a different way. than it was originally planned and in this sense of the word the last phrase. yes, i agree with viktor that here, either about the authorities, there is an understanding that this cannot
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be done technically, or that this does not need to be done for some other reason, so stanislav alekseevich is in charge. you need conditionally alexander yuryevich who will tell you something . and after that for half a year your trust bosses. how did you say it yourself? will change significantly. yes, it only says that alexander yuryevich knows how to re-educate his interlocutor without even seeing anything second, so to speak, he says quite peaceful things, and this is surprising and pleasant. i say reason and things back to the different military component constantine here. here, so that or about the infrastructure, here he said what to hit the stations and so on. you know, the infrastructure is a very complex facility and there are a lot of ways to defeat it. it was said that why we are beating no, now the main one, the main thing is that mr. sidorchik just said that we are trying to gore the enemy with our hands behind our backs. i asked him a specific question. we announce the mobilization, we say that all the guys,
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the situation has apologized against us, there is a war for a test against us , now it’s like this alexander yuryevich , here you are, as a military man, your ideas or we continue in the special operation mode, which means that everything is planned, this is quietly, slowly. i repeat once again that so far at this stage. that's what concerns there all these issues of transition hard. i appreciate that i don't see the need even in my point of view so far. i'm talking about something else, which is, uh, questions about strikes on infrastructure decision-making centers. everything, they really exist, there is no clear explanation why this does not happen. now i can’t even find it as a military specialist. well, because we have therefore the first question that arises for me is that
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in order for this understanding to come not at the level of conjectures, but assumptions and the fact that the authorities from above should be more visible speeches by high-ranking officials or their representatives, who clearly explain this issue of agreement, why not interrupt the proposal to transfer everything to the category of counter-terrorist operations. this is also the second question. that's about the infrastructure, because the central question here in solving the enemy's ability to lead with resistance is the defeat of infra. uh-huh destruction of infrastructure - this is not necessarily such massive destruction. colleague said that if there is zaluzhny there zelensky is somewhere right, but god bless him, let them hide, but in order to exercise control, you need an apparatus and a very powerful apparatus, which is saturated with competent trained people. take this device. it’s
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also impossible to put him in a tent camp by the scruff of the neck, because for this already the means of control are command posts, the location of all these command posts, the controls of this party are well known for the destruction of this apparatus. even the digital base that is there. here we are talking about the mobilization of several hundred thousand killed ukrainians. here are the ends to call. well , it doesn’t matter, so these waves of mobilization simply would not exist. that is, a lot of things would be decided, why this is not being done, i don’t know, i’ll say it again, there are some red political lines. they talked about it. so we all stop. now we are talking about thin edges a little different. yes , we will continue to talk that the multimillion-strong
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this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. we continue. well, just a few words. i would like to sum up, as it were, my own conclusion on the first part of our conversation, where we tried to find this fine line, even just in terms of special operation counter-terrorist operation war. i would very much like to see how konstantin valentinovich sivkov said this, and our authorized ones, the heads of the leaders, they still, uh, made these statements, which, for example, he expects from them yes, a military expert, because the number of questions . unfortunately, it is accumulating and it is not in our power journalists if we do not receive this information. we can't just talk to people. this is indeed a very fine line to break. no way, so please, dear empowered people. listen to our today's program, maybe a little more carefully than you usually do now. the thin line is such a completely peaceful time. we have such a
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wonderful picture, it reminds me of it. something from my school past there, such as friendship of peoples and so on and so forth, but if earlier in the soviet union we used to say that as a rule. here we have 15 republics and that's it. there was no further calculation. and now they say we live in russia, representatives of more than 200, in my opinion, people, yes, or something like that, of course, it’s good, but sometimes, again, there are hmm , it’s like, like in the old days, out of the blue, out of the blue conflicts. as an informational occasion for this conversation today, we took a very recent case in tyumen in one of the local schools. last friday, a scandal erupted in the tyumen school number 88, where they refused to let a student in a hijab in class, the director explained that this was prohibited by the charters of the mother of the child arranged a verbal skirmish with the leadership of the school and began to film everything. as a result, the girl was allowed one lesson, that i won’t leave us, you don’t have the right to have a child in him. call
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call. i will also tried it. and now and when i started filming your child, did you miss it? and now you speak, but now you didn't speak. you said you kicked her out of school, we live here. you have no right to expel us from this school. god it turned out that the family, the student strictly adheres to the norms of islam father, girls, ibrahim davuda defeatist tyumen but grew up in dagestan from where and moved the family school conflict intervened by the local authorities. after the meeting of the davud of the governor of the tyumen region, the girls were allowed to attend an educational institution in the hijab; the girls were not forbidden to visit the school with a headscarf. in addition, the governor said that schoolgirls had the right to attend the tsemen region. her tab. the only thing parents should notify the
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school administration about this in advance. but this decision was not approved by all critics, referring to the federal the law on education, in which it is written in black and white that school uniforms should have a secular character, meticulous users studied the social networks of davodov , sr. also other suspicious content. now these entries have been deleted, the topic is quite passable. but the fact that it was turned around like that, yes, was also forced, in fact, to apologize to the directors. it is not right. here. i'm thinking of apologizing to her now. here, comrades, if we really have terrorism propagandized for this will suffer and will, as in the well- known proverb, and women with a vine of his kitty, that is, a girl will go to school, wear a hijab, her father will go to prison in tyumen, this is not the first scandal with religious clothing, previously wearing hijabs, the leadership of the astrakhan medical university, which greatly angered the students towards the muslims. they complained that at the entrance to the university
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they were forced to take off their headscarves, threatening to take away their student cards. according to the charter, it is true that not only hijabs are prohibited. other accessories, which indicate belonging to a particular nationality or religion? well, there really is such a story as a matryoshka. eh, in general, yes, somehow we closely monitor what people post there on social networks here, it turns out that the person who, when i said there was suspicious content, was what he supported, but the ukrainian side. that is, he actually supported the nazis. eh, well, yes , they will deal with him. and so this matryoshka unexpectedly jumped out. yes and here they are an addition, but in another case, so we still have law. it’s not very clear to me, it means why the law is needed then. if like this in this particular case, the parents simply warn the school administration that we will not comply
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with the requirements of the federal law, we will do as we are used to, because this is our tradition. we whose in our religious norms and agreed with them, maybe even well. but then why do we need a law in its own right, this is a manifestation of real democracy, or vice versa, there is some kind of confusion regarding the scarf. i think, that there is nothing wrong with scarves, and a scarf has always been for any religion, only good, therefore, in this situation, and the relationship of a scarf in an educational institution in accordance with the constitution of the russian federation does not in any way violate the rights of other speech. then we close this issue. then we understand what a bad law is. if not a handkerchief, then the law that prohibits it, and it does not need to be repealed. i believe that it is possible to make a clarification in this part, that is, a handkerchief. it in no way violates morality or ethical some principles, other persons are religious, in principle, therefore it does not violate, then, i believe that there
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is nothing wrong with that. in fact, when i referred to this astrakhan case, in general, accessories indicating belonging to a particular religion or to a particular nationality. it's generally prohibited. according to the charter of this person. islam will see a cross on someone. this is not going to annoy me. i believe that if a woman is like a nun and it will not be annoying, despite the fact that i am a headscarf have not found. i believe that there is nothing wrong with this, which means that this, and not this, should not irritate the masses of people, which means, then where is the fine line here, because after seeing this story, for example, deeply orthodox orthodox people can say in the buffet this school, fasting days should be only after the meal; other people who profess islam will say that we have a boy, he is already more than ten 11 years old, our people. yes
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, he needs to demand the division of a meat schoolboy again and a dairy one. i know around this age they start already boys. here we are, this is the fine line. it turns out to be so subtle that the abyss of its interpretation opens up here. no, wait. here michal borisovich said here. yes, i don’t know if he agrees with me, or was it some kind. here. i mean, we need to change the law, i agree. in what sense do you understand the law of the state. if it is adopted, it must be implemented, otherwise then i have questions about any law. here, let's say, i don't like what they put in jail for theft. here i am, i want to steal, but i will say, but you know this one law. let's not act on me. well, then it is necessary to raise the question is not that to allow the hijab to leave the question. uh, this law complies, let's say the constitution yes, send it to the constitutional court. and then there is the constitutional court. our top authority.
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finally, decide whether it matches or not. and after that i would like to have in our society, if the supreme uh, legal. uh, i don’t know whether the council there or the court will decide, then the disputes should, sort of, like in civil society end. it seems so to me. here i am, for example, i know the decision of the supreme court regarding the ban on the hijab, in my opinion, in one of the southern provinces. he said it's legal. prohibition polish territory stavropol yes decided, and then it went to the highest instance of the supreme court and he confirmed that this kind of ban is legal, if someone has questions about the legality and compliance of this decision of this law with the constitution, give it to the constitutional court and get the final decision in our particular society is legal or illegal after its constitutional decision. it seems to me
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controversy is already futile. now a very complex problem has been explained very easily. you said in our wait with us society. we're not just kids like that. here, all of these have been drawn in the picture in our society in a huge number, and here are the traditional directions, well, which are the representative, i don’t know well, one religion is another, but they seriously contradict each other, they do not conflict. here we are as a state. it is impossible to work out this. how to develop a single norm for completely different? well wait here let's say this is a specific example. for example, drawing is taught at school. yes, is it necessary to ban drawing, because one of the religions, for example, believes that it is impossible to depict a person. so. what is your answer. it seems to me that children should be able to draw another question. well, let them draw flowers in relation. yes. eh, i don't know in
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muslim. they can ask their families not to draw a person. listen, you represent an educator. e will be the one of you who will tell. yes islam judaism means you don't draw people today orthodox who can draw people. and you, so we will be these abstract artists. he come to israel there, in principle, though a secular state. you will not find sculptures there. here in our usual understanding. the unfortunate ben-gurion's head is at the airport and that's it. and everything else is just like this, it’s just that in society you need to somehow agree, and with a structure that should develop this position, that somehow this state is the only one before the living. we didn't have a need. let's, probably, ruslanovich dear friends. well, firstly, we have a multi-confessional country. we have a federation that consists of different regions from different peoples,
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which became part of russia with their own cultural tradition with their own religion. yeah, secondly, we have a secular state society, it does not mean that it is atheistic, it is not theomachy and persecuted for religious beliefs. it is forbidden. let me remind you that even in the stalinist soviet union they did not find fault with the headscarf in schools, they taught from girls in headscarves . i have in the classroom, please, in gorny it was in dagestan. another facet a fine line is that even non-religious people can wear a headscarf. my grandmother is a russian teacher who came to dagestan and got married in the mountains in 1949 . she came to us, dagestan. when i was born in the seventy-sixth year, i never saw the color of her hair. i don't even know what color his hair is. she never took off her headscarf at home, even in front of a family member, and she is a teacher of russian language and literature. at the same time, he was absolutely not a
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religious person. so she passed away in 2016. here recently. i extinguished with my fellow countryman. he is not observant, one might say, a muslim, but his mother wore a headscarf. out of respect for her , he bought scarves for all five of his girls. they are little less than three to sixteen. they go home, when yarochki in scarves. now, if they are forbidden to go to school in headscarves, and these five girls drop out of the educational process. what should we do in this situation? so we need to allow and do not need to limit some of these external manifestations of nationality, there religious beliefs. again, it turns out, a thin line of dirt, who should show respect to whom on the one hand, all people should respect the federal law. now we will, uh, analyze other gifts, but i don’t think that if a child comes to school with a cross or in a muslim headscarf, but this offends should be written on paper
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, then the question arises. what for? we came up with this law with these prohibitions. there is just one more facet, but the scarf is not an analogue of the cross, understand this is not a manifestation. we'll only go deeper now in such discussions, disputes of great conglomeration speak out on this topic, and i'm afraid, in our school, all this can attract whether for a muslim, but the denial of one's faith is a rejection of one's faith, probably not. or how the removal of the cross for a christian is the rejection of his vein. well , let him go if he will study with his bitch at our school or at the university, which is absolutely for him. by the way, you cited the sikhs as an example, please, in britain in canada they are even allowed to serve in the police in their turbans. and even muslims are doing developing uniforms being photographed by idiots valery they say that they let's first look, and i'm a supporter of
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technical support, we'll make you come in a colander on your head, you'll be here i'm a supporter of the practice of communication gender and language are given to people in order to talk and negotiate, if only the mother of this girl came to the school in advance, talked to the director and warned that her daughter would come in a hijab. is this possible, if the director there had resisted further, would have continued discussions, but i'm sure they agreed. i'm not sure, similar, similar. example. uh, i was at the gym. well, what was he like now, uh, uh, we have a guy studying. i cheated a little on your editors. e. well, or rather, not so, uh, misleading, but there is a guy in dagestan who is a good promising fighter, he went to us, and then uh, he had problems. why because in the gym they forbade him to perform on the mass they said, sorry brother, but we have a temple of sports, so this is not the place. uh, if something doesn't
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suit you, find another gym. and he disappeared for some time. yesterday i saw him at training, he came up and clarified it on purpose. but it turned out that after all they settled the problem, they agreed, somewhere there are some, that is, somewhere they allocated a corner for him where he could retire to pray. and then get back to training. the problem is solved by communication. and that 's just not happening with us. eh, for some reason everyone tends to go straight to the conflict. e different e, underline the tripod of the constitution in the criminal code. at the same time, no one really knows these laws and no one observes observes only what is convenient, what is profitable, and then close to it. go to any region of the caucasus, go deep somewhere, go to the mountains, to villages. and ask what the law will tell you for you, and dat the word of the father, e-e koran, and then somewhere at the end there will be the constitution and the criminal code of the russian federation, this is the reality in which
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we live today. this applies not only to the caucasus, we have the same thing. we also live by the rules somewhere here in central russia, because everyone spit on the laws, because they you can rewrite immediately the question in the story that you cited. why was it possible to agree, because there it is just a matter of concepts and agreement, nowhere is it written that prayer can be performed here and nowhere is it written that it cannot be performed. here it is the subject of a conversation between two people who want or do not want to agree, but from the point of view of the story with the handkerchief. there, just the director. it’s not like she came up with the idea that it’s impossible in her school. she did everything according to the rules of the school, didn't she ? aha rewrite one-shot as far as i i understand you, zero word charter, tired we have a huge number of caucasians in the army who also regularly want to pray, but there is nowhere and regular conflicts arise, vivid examples, i will give you our countryman with a
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prayer rug under his arm, and a military unit comes to to the commander and says, i know you have a conflict and the dagestanis refuse to wash the floors and say that this is a religious ban, all this is nonsense. i will mop the floors. just give me the opportunity to pray regularly, commander. so soulful he gave him this leninist soviet -era room. as it was called and even stood guarded while he prayed. here comes the man. with respect to him with respect, everything is decided through dialogue , even in the main ones, and organizations have a rigid hierarchical structure, it must be said that teachers. it showed up in this story. not not pedagogically, because, of course, it was not necessary to arrange. this scandal set the ban. we should let the girl through, and invite her mother for a conversation and talk calmly. here it was necessary do. da yure there are many here, referring to the fact that there is a decision hunu here. there is a law on education, it says nothing about the attributes
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of any faith and belonging to it, as well as any traditional cultural features, uh, that your clothes show. this is what it says about the uniform form, where it is introduced into the school uniform and must not be violated. uh, hammer on the head. or even a scarf like this. but it's still a headscarf, it's called a hijab. this is not a violation. this is not a violation of school uniform. i am i understand that if we follow this path on the one hand, the constitution says that russia is a secular state. yes, these issues have been resolved. let's say in israel or in greece where it is written directly in the constitution that this is a religious state, so no one will have any examples. they consider the state very many issues are legally regulated equal. and right there , right through the pen in the constitution, it is written that everyone is guaranteed freedom of conscience in general religion, so we are constantly fighting against some visible part saying that this is important. here she came on a hijab or didn’t come, she incorrectly interprets, we immediately pull up her father, that
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we see a part of such an invisible part. now, if the pigs, apparently, from this, the inner inner conviction of a person, his faith, you understand, if it is supposed to wear a headscarf or hijab for 12 years, well, why should the state become a stake and rest. that's what a colleague said. there are places where, in general, the question is not worth going, everyone was given to the villages of the caucasus and no one will even be there it is illegal to look at a school without a charter and education has been crying for minutes, so there must be reasonableness everywhere here, a fine line. let's keep the balance andrey follows the hijab, but also does not break the tired. i will be forced to agree with colleagues opposite, because i hear this is a preacher. just that the law on the russian federation should not have a concept. let's go further then along this path, if we proceed from the fact that polygamy is allowed in islam. this is on what basis we do not register plurality for citizenship marriages. and this is tradition. if we go through this stage of facts, it doesn't exist. well , here it is again. well, if hypocrisy turns out, wait, no second, we
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didn't have enough of it. wait a second, then let's get it right. come on, if you come to the conclusion that we do not have a state, but a territory on which it operates, but dates and concepts, then we need to properly unite and dissolve the russian federation as a secular state with a constitution and all the leadership, you understand, because the countries wait for your offer. no, this is your proposal, because i'm not distorting, because we are now talking about what i said there must be a balance, wait if you say that there is something that is above the law, then the law does not apply if the law does not work, yes, a fact, i say it again, regarding this issue. there, people understanding very clearly noticed that the question was not actually raised there, but the girls, because the girl could walk without under the fabric, violating vera's questions, which they confirmed. actually speaking, islamic preachers. there directly, but here the question is different. and who made the scandal? is it a teacher? we are talking about adults who provoked us to create a
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scandal with their goals. and when we talk about the impossibility of reaching an agreement, most of those stories begin with the fact that some people make a provocation. so the parents of this girl went to a conscious provocation to shoot. they are the solution to the question, why is it already let others figure it out. here we are again starting to file at a very definite moment there is a school secular institution. and you get a secular education. i don't understand why, if you take it from an empty school, a certain form, we say that this is an attempt on something up, just like a medical university is allowed. you know, there, in general, questions of studying the body anatomy. there they very often enter into such, in general, the very opening of us. excuse me, it hurts some questions of faith, we can, that now we must teach in general or say that we will, let's, we will now be established. you just need a little nikolaevich. uh, looking ahead, but very correct because we want to analyze other examples from him. here was an example of polygamy. indeed, as far as we manage to combine the laws
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becomes clear. we continue to avoid going around in circles around this one story with a headscarf at school. let's try to rise to the occasion, because in our country there are entire regions where traditions, orders, foundations, sometimes come into play, it would not be a sin to say that the law is in direct contradiction. in the republics of the northern caucasus is a demonstration of the female body, as it is not welcomed by the public , some advertisers face problems; any billboard advertising lingerie can become an object of dissatisfaction on the part of local residents. the authorities of some regions themselves are trying to limit the amount of such advertising, for example, in north ossetia, a whole company has been launched to the authorities of dagestan also struggled with defiant advertising with excessively revealing outfits in july last year. they prepared a memo for tourists, where they indicated in what you can, and what you should not appear in public places. in particular, women are asked not
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to wear tight jeans and short skirts, and men are advised to refrain from wearing shorts. such clothes are often considered vulgar by the locals. they themselves scold guests for inappropriate outfit. this miracle has come. you can't dress properly, can you? special attitudes in the caucasian regions to alcohol in 2020 love for alcohol is primarily due to religion, which prohibits drinking, but they are fighting alcohol and local authorities, so in 2016 in kabardino-balkaria they stopped all officially existing alcohol factories. and in dagestan , for example, alcohol is sold mainly in specialized stores, while in cafes and restaurants there is often no alcohol at all, when we are talking about alcohol unconditionally. it is important that today the entire format of market regulation be
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in the sphere of moral, ethical and legislative responsibility from the point of view, of course, because in general, the law of terra is morality. sultan khamzaev will be on your screens now. i'll just remind you that now he is a deputy of the state duma. and yes, members of the public chamber, telling us about the morales of the sultan. khamzaev threw a microphone here and switched to you and the guests. but it's easy to remind those who do not constantly watch our program alexey gennadievich, we have listed certain contradictions, and then everyone in all regions turns on our common one on all television, where everything is what is in the region forbidden shows how then it is impossible to sum it all under a common denominator, but people live. yes , first of all, not the regions, so to speak, these are the people in the first place, yes, and work. of course it is necessary first of all with people there is no. well, that is, geographically, but as for the legislative, what is the region, uh, enough. it's difficult to imagine. i think that the representatives of the north caucasus will not agree to live conditionally according to the moscow st. petersburg
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ekaterinburg, and even the vladivostok concept not by law. so, respectively, and muscovites. petersburgers will not agree. live according to the dates there yes, and it is not necessary. and why do i just say two words? sorry, i'll be back. i didn’t understand at all, to be honest, whether there was such a question or not, a girl in a hijab to school. yes, of course, let it come at all some. well, really for me a very strange story is a girl in a hijab, a bald girl, a girl with purple hair. i 'll end up with a girl with purple hair or green wispy hair or a mohawk. all these girls must i have the same rights throughout the russian federation. just why do you need to come to school with a blue rocket, and i will say in general, because she wants it that way, that's all. i’m less than alexey gennadievich, i’m returning you to the plot that we showed the girl in the pareo, it seems that this is called the rule. in general, in short, as i understand it,
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she was in one of our e-caucasian, she, by law, has the right to do so. here, look at what we discussed now, but an understandable situation arises and we return to the thesis of andrei and to the thesis of volodya a a man who entered the store. he walked in with his phone on. well, i hated her with a key and started filming, but no, well, listen and why did he do it ? why not, if it's so annoying to you, you can make a quiet remark, especially since she apologized, she left the store. he still went out and caught up with her, shouting filth, swearing at someone's ear, he was going to tear it off, in my opinion, this is the pursuit of hype. this is not about morality and spiritual admiration for personal growth. no uncle with a phone, but why should she think?
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well, because you understand such a specific region with someone else's charter with your mouth common to alexei gennadievich but this is, but we return to the fact that our concept is above laws and look, i said that christ is a concept, which means uh, pontius pilate - you understand the law, but it's real because you can then try to somehow compete with the concept of laws, yes, but grace. yes, he means leadership, you know? it's good if you have the concept of a criminal there. no, i'm not talking about this, it's not wrong, the concept is ideologically lower in some such strange spheres. yes, but who gave you the right to come to a serious program. in such terrible socks, not only are the colors completely different, they are also familiar, which offends
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these ones. let's go, yes, yes. think there are still a few minutes before i am in favor of a girl with red or green hair having the same chances of getting into class as a girl with a headscarf or without a headscarf, because the girl has red hair. she can't tell the girls will be a distraction in class. yes, you distract me. i will come. yes, you distract me with your stupid socks on our andrey wait then. listen to how it is much more important for a child at school to get his attention from him, any kind of anything that distracts. yes, it 's great it's great to have normativity, of course, look at the normativity. yes, and brodsky said that he is always a creditor, and not a denominator. yes, not for dividing us all, but for one individual. i, too, in this sense, for one individual person, and in this
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situation everything is individual in manual mode allowed correctly. i have always said. now i will say the state should not be a crazy traffic controller, yes, which confronts the example that andrei nikolayevich cited before. always for one person. this means that in certain of our regions there is a tradition of polygamy, which categorically does not comply with the law of the state in any way. how long has he been talking about this to learn how to leave us, how is it? well, because to create again, as a rule of the road , a way to disperse. and it is possible, for example, there, wait, now he wants a second. that is, if he lives at home in his republic, he can have an apartment, but in moscow there is only one, but if he moves, and if he moves, the regions are more attractive and, in this sense, russian culture together. yes, somewhere there must be a norm of fattening, so that we must want to go and we
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demonstrate the advantage of a broad culture. sorry you can. yes, yes, some good examples. so, naturally, in dagestan we ourselves condemn this guy who behaved quite aggressively yourself can be remark. correctly the girl filmed. well, the shape is wrong, but i will give a bright one. an example of how this was decided in tsarist russia and in the caucasus during the time of imam shamil, firstly, during the time of imam shamil, it was clear that there were captured russian soldiers. it was the longest war in the history of russia, imam shamil, a captured russian orthodox soldier, singled out an old orthodox georgian church in the avar village of datuna. it still stands there from the period of queen tamara. they pressed icons, worshiped and even made church wine, it was a territory of strict application of sharia during the war with orthodox
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russia that is, on the contrary, islam encourages going towards religious traditions, but on the other hand, when dagestan became part of russia , the wild division was created, which glorified itself, including on the fronts of the first world war, and for muslims they made separate medals, where there would be no state could meet halfway and finally. i would like to cite the uzbek yevkurov as an example when he was also the head of ingushetia, and then the island was still a question about the headscarf in schools. now he is the minister of defense himself. he then said a phrase that shocked me and told me, as a man and the head of the regions, you shouldn’t care at all that girls are on their heads. we are now talking about what about we have now come a little bit to a different story and to other signs about a collision. here's how to say these, right? here, for example, here he lives at home as he used to, and then he moves. here's how
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this is a story from dagestan he brought there family to jail. now i remember you told and lived in dagestan naturally. now in the present tense. i live in moscow yes, i wore a headscarf, and i do not rule out that i am one more of him, and at the same time, uh, i think that wearing a headscarf is only good, nothing wrong with that. i don't see if i'm studying polygamy here. i already had a transmission on this topic for a very long time. by the way , if there is an opportunity, then it is a separate discussion. we have the law of the russian federation, according to the law of the russian federation, there is no criminal but punishment ass. uh, what a man polygamy. yes, there is no such thing, that is, a person should have only one wife officially according to the law. as if i were talking about this, that for muslims there are no, e some contradictions and violations between our religion, yes, and between the e constitution there and the legislation of the russian federation, therefore, it is quite possible to live precisely with the fact that
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there is already no need. alexei would be happy to drive. it seems to me that he would support polygamy, judging by his statement. i'm creating some kind of legislation, and to be polygamy, so i believe that there is not even such a law that forbids the girl who was again on our video, just an otherwise understandable example for me for our viewers. there is no such law that forbids this girl in dagestan or where it is an accident to enter this store, but something tells me that if she does one in the basis. the conflict is the basis of the appearance on the street how the police will react to a woman, like this, in any way, but in any case on the playground, she will appear. give a woman please, yes girl, in the same way will come in. uh, in some store in the city of moscow, i am convinced that some kind of russian grandmother will tell her something, she will say the girl is wrong . two more. grandma is like that. yes,
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they were dressed differently. and if we have some common rules in dagestan. yes , and they do not say that someone put on a headscarf. i am not saying to wear a hijab. i was in dagestan in july, i looked at all the places where tourism is developed, not in one place. i didn't see any negative feedback towards tourists. but at the same time i saw millions of people. you can say there are thousands of people who were dressed quite decently. i didn't see any tourists. eh, well, as if debauchery. dressed, i'm just i, of course, i'd prefer shorts i hope. although my hairy may be, my legs are shackled, but, well, i'm hot because i'm hairy. i'm hot, so i wear shorts. i have nowhere to ruin vintage garlic. i can't go. well, i went to chechnya in july.
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the month when i arrived in chechnya, knowing that everyone there was wearing headscarves. i, too, have you dressed in a scarf, come i don’t see anything wrong with that. i came to dagestan, it’s good for us. someone wears. let's. now let's pause again. that is, here we are faced in our dispute with such a situation that there is a certain certain standard that the minority adheres to. yes, and that's the majority. i'm not saying it's good or bad , the majority should be guided by this standard, apparently, if we talk about our federal legislation, then there are many such examples. we will now discuss after the break. show avatar on saturday at 20:10 on ntv buy soon discounts here i will not miss the sale here, whatever i want i want. soon i want to grab a sale on ozone rice in
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becomes clear and we continue. let us let's look at a few examples of laws that exist in our country that regulate or, on the contrary, do not regulate, but administrative criminal liability for certain violations. criminal liability for insulting the feelings of believers in russia was introduced in 2013; before that, such an offense was considered an administrative offense. now, according to the criminal code and for him, you can get 3 years in prison, therefore, in the public space, out of harm's way, they try to avoid discussing religious topics not to joke about believers and not even to be photographed against the backdrop of orthodox churches. another step towards conservatives banning the discussion of same-sex relationships in 2013 was passed by the federal law prohibiting the promotion of non-traditional sexual relations among children and adolescents, advocates of morality demand to go even further. so
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the head of the duma committee on inform politics, alexander khinshtein, this week proposed amending it, according to which the wording will be legally removed, and the age of potential victims, and fines for violation will increase to 200,000 rubles. for citizens and up to four million for organizations. due to the harsh protest of the conservative-minded part of the population in russia, a law on the prevention of domestic violence was never adopted. the first time the bill was rejected back in the sixteenth year, but after the terrible story of margarita gracheva, who in 2019 her ex-husband chopped off his hands, the discussion was resumed, however, the matter did not progress further than conversations, according to the traditionalists , relations in the family are internal affairs. even cries for help are heard from there, what's the problem? why is it that, in some cases , laws are adopted and the number of conflicts
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increases; in other cases, laws are not adopted, and in general, we will also start less conflict in the order in which they spoke. it is based on respect for the feelings of believers, and this respect for the feelings of believers, unfortunately, is sometimes not respected in our country. here's what we saw in the video, when a person shoots, he starts straight, well, he speaks out quite sharply. come on tell me that man himself is still a neophyte in a neophyte. right now, this extremism is so religious, because a truly deeply religious person must first of all be friendly, even if he wants to correct something, he chooses a form that does not humiliate too much. well, that was 10-9 years ago. this talk back is impossible to offend, because as far as the laws of the president are concerned, this will come. look at the latest law. let's talk about what was offered, i myself participated, when this was first offered the law was not completely worked out. not the plot of the law, not the practice has not been studied,
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absolutely ridiculous stupid things have been agreed that most crimes are committed in the family, but this is not true from the very beginning, so here in this law it is necessary, but only from the point of view of protecting really close people, which often suffer, but it is necessary to work it out. you have to go to the experts. it is necessary to collect accurate statistics truthful statistics. and we have a snack today, we do not agree with the statement that this is hmm there was a concession to the so-called. there is no concession to the traditional, because he was not completely correctly studied; it is impossible to say that the family is the most dangerous place, because it is closed. here is how it was said. andrey, it's true, this is the safest place. they weren't. is it again . i'll repeat. it's just a concession. i'm not talking here, even about the religious to some conservative minority. it didn't get any better. i will explain how i see it. you see. with the collapse of the soviet union, we were denied. not just from soviet ideology these are ideologies in general, but the problem is
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that the patrol is a solid foundation of the state without a specific ideology. it doesn’t matter which one is definite and clear, because it’s impossible for everyone to grow a tree of the state out of this, and these laws, including insulting the feelings of believers, are some kind of attempt to find something like that and establish some. canons that suit everyone, but at the same time, look, when we talk about domestic violence, the problem is the conclusion of writing new laws. they are in the performance of those that exist for the home violence under today's criminal code. it can perfectly prove that they are trying to escape from this practice to refuse. and here it is stuffed somewhere inside. it's the same problem. you can write another law if it doesn't work , nothing works, the problem is that you don't have an ideology. you can't you trying to replace it with suragam get nonsense. i do not agree with the thesis that this is a concession to the minority. the fact is that these laws are adopted, because with propaganda the air is not such a concession to the minority, it especially evokes
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requirement. people like people. the majority, when evil is, as if punished, i remind you that the protection of the feelings of believers began with a thrashing and and then everyone really wanted to punish them and looked for some kind of legislative act so that it would be possible to do this. and in fact, it was a concession to the majority, just like, uh, the desire not to get into the family, because if someone quarrels there neighbors, then it’s somehow not very customary for us to get into inter-family showdowns, so uh, this concessions to the majority. they don't seem good to me they will bring it, but well, exactly, because, if possible, it periodically connects. that's what's bad, then, especially bad people, even regardless of, uh, how serious the crime is. they committed simply because the man is shit. uh, we have people of democracy to judge strictly. they will act in this way or
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demand from the state that it act in this way, but here this is why deputies of the state duma and people who have a legal education and special knowledge are needed in order to somehow regulate this process. and at it's like it doesn't happen to us. the wind is blowing to raise all the sails. i rushed to eat everything was accepted. yes , i understand how girls with red hair get into school you have to wear a headscarf. that's how she gets on. but seriously, look, we have been discrediting the word tolerance for many years. while lotman, for example, explained how a mother’s desire is to learn how to talk to her child, who does not yet speak, so she switches, as it were, into his language and that's tolerance. we definitely need in this story in all the described in the stories of the elders, the younger one somehow turned out to be not very tolerant about the fact that we need tolerance when we already need it. it’s just that in everyone we remember that we need scientific thinking when some kind of epidemic appears and it turns out that
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people have mess in their heads, what they watched, and the program about psychics has been treated with conspiracies all this time, therefore, we need to start ahead of time just working with the quality of thinking and the fact that people learn to evaluate sources of information and learn to understand each other, if people of culture. were people. eh, their cultural backgrounds are so different, it ’s like these addictions, but they just sit on a plane, yes, they bring food to everyone and distribute food, then the vegetarians separately carry it, you know, and this doesn’t create problems, the vegetarian doesn’t get up and talk. you eat dead flesh and stuff, no set of services helps us here as a vegetarian. when i flew in aeroflot at the same time, they had very tasty food. the main big purse was not brought to the last, firstly, the more important point. why history
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laws will not work. it was just delicious, the food was very small and that's it. i wanted one day with me. here's a smarter one flew nearby. yes, when why did they bring kashin, i see there i have so much food. he is like that in russia no-no-no, don't think, i'm not a jew. i think it was not me, yes, so i want to say something else. look, why won't the laws work? two two ways, the first understandable from russian folk wisdom to a fool, the law is not written. if it is written, then it is unread there. if you read it, you don't understand. if understood, then it won't work that way. the law is for fools, there will always be someone who will break it. this is the first. this is the first fork, and the second fork. if we implement, then we need to standardize everything and bring to a common denominator, we need to introduce three or four types of hairstyles for boys and girls. this is the only way you should
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come to school uniforms. so for boys there was a short haircut for girls, a pigtail, well, cool in north korean man, what's wrong there are good ones, because yes, i didn’t hear hairstyles good and all the bad was school uniform nothing bad, but a person should have the right to self-expression even so small, how to get out of school? that we at one time did not have any possibility of birth itself. i went to school in creative circles. i had to go to sections. if you want football, express yourself the most, even though you went to the theater for another school. and now all the time has come out in ours, and we will not know what i wanted to say. alexei means timofeev to us, so to speak, we will not let him express himself. yeah everything. blamed my own
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you perform your civic duties. it requires some kind of behavioral boundaries, which is normal for any state. or other signs, therefore, i believe that on this basis, if people want to find a common language among themselves, they will find it, so pavel alekseevich well, our forces of diversity, because all people are different, but at the same time everyone is equal before the law and the court so written in all the constitutions of the world. andrey nikolaevich, our guys at the forefront now do not see development among themselves in religions and always understand what unites them. and why not fight. but in the rear, even this discussion shows. we have somehow the general is significant and is located. it's a pity, it's sad why don't we hold this discussion now, perhaps, not every discussion by consensus? forgive me, lord, that we can all our cultural peculiarities of tradition, of course, of course, but there are, in my opinion, certain areas where we
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