assistance in the form of food packages in the form of solving specific problems and why the west is turning the ukrainian conflict into an endless one, we will continue to block moscow about this today in our program. hello, is this the meeting place on ntv , the place where everything becomes clear? i'm andrey norkin . my colleague is ivan trushkin, but we're working live . at first anyway. let me say a few words about the main world news queen elizabeth ii has died, why is this the main world news? open any media now. firstly, the british monarchy, the most publicized media promoted, because you must admit that such a number of publications of books of films, no other monarchy can boast of this. and so , of course, everyone is interested. now this ceremonial protocol and so on and so forth, and secondly, of course, elizabeth ii was not just a symbol. she was the personification of a certain

stability of the western world, because she was always, i don’t know, the prime minister churchill or president isenhower seem to be characters far, far away of the past. they worked at their posts when the queen of england was already, uh, elizabeth ii. that is, she has always been, but now she is not such an impression. so now the whole western world is somehow shaking and falling apart in different directions. and this rod he disappears, that is, no, the queen. elizabeth ii has this miracle called a rhinestone sheet of activity, which we, of course, will return to today. here it is such as such a small epigraph. and now let's turn to the topic, which for us is the main one in the center of this topic is, of course, no kings and queens, ordinary civilians who every day risk dying under ukrainian shelling. the shelling continues. the list of settlements in the liberated territories that are subject to these shelling is getting longer and longer and the problem is also serious. this and electricity is the connection of this

water supply. now i will tell you everything in more detail. on friday morning, ukrainian troops resumed shelling of novaya kakhovka over the city , at least six explosions thundered air defense systems reported in the military-civilian administration of the kherson region. the day before, the allied forces also attacked novaya kakhovka and the surroundings of residential buildings destroyed by the school, killing three people. six were wounded under ukrainian strikes and kherson due to damage to power lines . it was de-energized, energodar svet disappeared, and traffic lights were turned off in melitopol and berdyansk, there were problems with water. after another shelling from militants. vsu, there was a massive power outage in the energy center of the militopol. and berdyansk problems. not only with electricity supply, but also with communication and water supply. the shelling

of the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant does not stop either, because of this , the capacity of the last of the operating power units had to be reduced to twelve percent. in energodar itself, the building of the city administration was attacked by a mined drone. as a result of the fall of a kamikaze drone with an improvised explosive device on the roof of the technical operation of air conditioning units, an explosion occurred. then a fire started, which was timely localized. and on the night of friday in energodar , the militants stopped another third attempt at a ukrainian landing. the local authorities wanted to cross the dnieper in the direction of kamenka dneprovskaya, about 10 km from energodar from the side of nikopol. in the morning they reported the attack was successfully repelled. bogdan anatolyevich well, we are returning to our conversation the day before yesterday, when you said, you had such an argument with alexander yuryevich about the need. we, too, strike at such objects. here is energy, well, in general, in terms of infrastructure,

it’s true that you have a unanimous opinion, then there wasn’t what you would say today, i’ll also say that even then , firstly, no, the concept of military or civilian infrastructure, the railway that exists can be carried out both for the transport of humanitarian goods and for the transfer of troops , for two months, for two months, they were transferred from the army near kharkov. i will not criticize our military now, because, probably, they will say that you have no right. you yourself are not a military man, but the transfer was carried out precisely by rail, if there were traction substations were liquidated, there would be no electricity, there would not be these tracks of the locomotive fleet. there would not have been much else as a result of our preliminary preventive pinpoint strikes or not very much any attack on kharkov on the beak. now it wouldn't be. if there was a very tough policy towards ukraine, also note all these destructions in energodar in nova kakhovka melitopol, by the way, from the point of view of a tough policy towards ukraine - this is what, besides these are strikes on the infrastructure, which is completely destroyed by logistics, any logistics, civilian

logistics, military impossibility, the supply of ammunition and fuel, without which military operations are impossible. if you have at least 100,000 tanks. if there are no shells and fuel, then nothing can be done with them. bogdan you are right, but apparently. there is simply no strength for this, and these are two different questions. is it necessary to do it? it is necessary to do everything to ensure that you are convinced that there is. the second question is, is there power? you see, it's worth is there a task, let's just say it straight, is there a task to destroy, er, arms transfers of weapons that come from the west all the time. eh, it’s already been established there, in fact, such a bridge. yes, weapons are constantly being sent to ukraine does it mean that if their destruction is indicated, of course there is. and why why is this not being done to the extent that it is necessary, it is obvious that there are not enough forces of the capabilities of the capabilities of military intelligence. well, why why, if wait if the ukrainian side goes on a

counteroffensive, we have this counteroffensive there we contain and destroy these advancing enemy forces. so we have the ability to fire. it was just more than that, a little earlier than that of the goal and in this way. he's always in trouble. here there are several problems, first of all, the counter offensive is now in vain in the kharkiv region. but unfortunately, the ukrainian side is advancing and balakleya is already lost there and the assumptions are complicated, but why the weapons are delivered to the front line, because ukraine is a huge country, not even about the offensive. for example, there is a certain yagodskogo ukrainian strategic object traction substation everyone knows where they are. i thought the same. why lokomotiv you are also full of such objects correctly. why is there no water in belgorod? no? wait, boris borisovich, they are

still shelling the zaporozhye nuclear power plant. i just understand your logic, if we do something like that, they will strike there, according to our 100%, they will completely shell our territory already at the zaporozhye power plant. they also shoot at you spread there several villages on the territory of the kursk belgorod region, which, unfortunately, russia now knows because they are shelling it from the ukrainian side, which are the terrorist population, who convinced president putin that the special operation will be effective short on the civilian population , we will not hit the civilian population, just let’s go in there kadyrov and everything will be put in order and so on. these people, well, they just put all of us very strongly. and you know, well, i don’t know, let the president figure it out, i can say the following, well absolutely. how sure are you that these apathy do not have who these people are, to be honest. i don’t know, are you sure

there is a president, not himself, as if sitting and thinking, let me start a special operation. well, you came saying that the ukrainians would surrender and scatter. everyone will be asked to russia. who told him this? everything, in the end. yes, we took it apart, but we all know, the main thing is that you know, if you are so knowledgeable, you would call a couple foil, but yes, so now the situation is as follows, we have come to the line, beyond which you just need to understand the simple thing to win ukraine with the resources that russia is now trying to fight there in the colonial war regime. yes , contractors are fighting. there, then, pmcs and so on mobilization no, well, this is absolutely impossible, because the russian army. there is opposed, in general, a strong army, which in full support the strongest economically psychological states of europe yes offer mobilization to carry out military mobilization mobilization there of consciousness or economics of

political banking status. let's sergey mikhailovich to start negotiations or act, since bogdanovich cannot exist in zelensky's nazi regime, and zelensky's nazi regime must be destroyed. and here i must say that there are forces and intelligence. everything clearly shows, but i will remind you of the task that the president set for the genocification of ukraine, and he immediately said that we would. uh, why don't we carry out, and such carpet bombings, as they used to do, for example, in the united states of america or afghanistan and we protect the population, by the way, our the fraternal population of fraternal ukraine, which is held hostage by the zelensky regime and, as i am absolutely convinced that the complete identification of ukraine is possible, only with the liquidation of the zelensky regime b, the liberation from the nazis of the entire

territory of ukraine, a small fraction will remain as a result of negotiations there, or else with him sooner or later we will have to finish what is now very clearly needed to understand that we are not deliberately destroying the infrastructure. although to be honest, i would like to have nodal ones as well. here we have we have there is a possibility of strength in order to continue working exactly as you are now telling your nadezhda, he believes that we have full growth. yes? do you remember that recently you quite rightly said that we have not started yet. well, then it will be necessary to start, yes, strength and that's it. sorry what are we waiting for. so you say, we have enough strength, we hear. that will go according to plan. well, does anyone seriously believe that 6 months ago the plan was for us to

leave groceries there now. uh, the counteroffensive was reflected in the kharkov region. could not take, kharkov is a collegium with the nato bloc by the hands of ukrainians, including a well-prepared army, there is a serious and serious intelligence armament. the proof is a difficult war and war, and it is impossible to predict and teach everything, but there is strength, and most importantly, there is political will and will do the job to the end, when victory before an interview today to say that it’s time to strike, but smartly. decipher, please, in a smart way, this is something, firstly, uh, for yesterday and today. i changed my position. uh, because the main thing is that now taking place on the territory of the former ukraine is fighting. and they should dictate to us both the position and more so harshly now yes. well, i

just convinced you, and you, of course, convinced me. here, but most of all i was convinced by the ukrainian military trained in the uk, yes, which are very sensitive to strike us, this is normal. we are not at war with monuments, in contrast to the participation of the enemy, and indeed staff work is carried out there purely by nato, but hmm and they are preparing them, but these are already, uh, those who were trained have arrived great britain so you have revised your position, how does it look, how does it all look now? yes , war is a very complex concept, and there is also a political, there is a psychological component , and over the past few days we have been dealt a very sensitive psychological blow, because there is no military sense in this offensive yesterday, maybe there was. and by the way, hmm, everyone is talking right now, but here i was, in early july, saying that kherson is garbage. and, if well, the counter

is coming, that is, you yesterday you you you yesterday to us they said you can’t act, as bogdana anatolyevich suggests. because now it will hit the civilian population. your position has changed, my position has changed, what is needed now, er, in my opinion. it seems to me that it is necessary to deal with the destruction of the infrastructure that bears on itself. military load, this cannot be military or civilian, she alone bogdan is your thesis. and i don't agree with him. so, uh, for example, the water supply system of the city the water supply system between the road, traction substation locomotive park infrastructure. we, in particular , did not strike at the railways in the first months in the kharkiv region, because the civilian population was evacuated to the west along these railways, but we didn’t care where just from the cities. leave now in a military sense, and we

got a good picture, because here are all of us who have two words to say about the situation itself, yes, uh, all those who made us panic uh, not many people did not understand a very simple thing, if trained there are ukrainian soldiers in great britain but for front lines. we will meet with him sooner or later we are with you bogdan the question is, bogdan where we will meet him in kharkov which we will take and they will arrange a rupole for us either in an open field or in a forest, in fact, if we made them now to lay bare reserves, as far as comrade nadezhdin is concerned, then once again i ask you to watch your language, because, uh, even to probros to say how the colonial wars are unacceptable in our case. this is the first second. uh, for you a politician with such a long record. can't you climb one head

and throw away everything from military operations, and it includes western europe and the usa, or, you really think from what you say that we poked through the border there and are trying to aggression, a piece of territory is going on, a global war. this is her fragment and it is from here. uh, we must proceed from this proceed in order for the global war and i hope it will begin, but it will begin therefore. value second, well, oddly enough, in one hope was right. come on and it's happening already talked about building up our forces reserves that yesterday went into kuppinsk, and today went into raisins, and not transferred with another part of the front. these are new reserves. that is, a few more buttons for terrorist actions. kiev, let's say, because now it is in the liberated territories, what is happening with targeted terrorist attacks against officials there, the military-civilian administration, the liberated territories, the ukrainian special services and

the ukrainian armed forces are trying to intimidate people. let's take the last examples. in berdyansk and melitopol with a difference of a day there were two terrorist attacks on tuesday, an attack was made on the military commandant of berdyansk, and on wednesday, the apu. in broad daylight, they staged an explosion at the headquarters of the movement. luckily, no one died in melitopol together with russia. although just at that time there was a reception of citizens. here you can see. here is the funnel behind me. if you pay attention. uh, this is actually the traces of the explosion. here are the broken glasses. uh, here and here uh, this is a public headquarters movement in a mission with russia, a headquarters where people received help every day, thousands of people throughout the zaporozhye region receive assistance in the form of food kits in the form of electric stoves in the form of solving specific problems. there, the purchase of medicines or some domestic issues, terrorist attacks became the favorite weapon of the ukrainian special services. in june , the head of the youth policy department in the kherson administration was killed in a car explosion. in

july, they attempted on the head of the mariupol region. the official was not injured napa eliminated a defused bomb was reported on the route of the car of vladimir said of the head kherson military-civilian administration, and the reason for the emergency hospitalization of the garden in serious condition. in early august, there could have been poisoning. on the same days, they shot at the deputy head of the administration of the kakhovka district. vitaly gura, an official, died after an assassination attempt on the mayor of mariupol konstantin ivashchenko at the end of august, ukrainian nationalists were preparing another series of terrorist attacks, but this plan was prevented by the fighters of the guard races who discovered large caches of explosives in the kharkov region. some strange object unwrapped it and found that it was bam additionally, we found an f-1 grenade on the door, in the garden we found, there was a trip wire, a strategic checker plus. uh, in one of the buildings

we found a package in which there was about 3 kg of tnt - this is what we managed to extract. this was clearly intended to, most likely, carry out not even one, but a series of terrorist attacks. aleksey gennadievich, there are two theories on how all this can be fought. the first say that you just need to work harder in the liberated territories of smersh, identifying some kind of saboteurs and so on and so on, second. they tell us that this is not enough and is needed on the territory, in fact, from which these terrorists are sent to the territory of the state of ukraine to do something that will sober up the people who send these terrorists, your principle, which first second or which third second case will not help? uh, to ensure a full degree of security, and these acts, these crimes will continue to be committed regardless of how tough smersh will act, so to speak. although this is with us forever say it won't stop for very long. yes

, very very long, so i literally two words. this is a very important thesis about the level of expertise, and understanding of what is happening, and so on. not not not our program i’m talking about another i’ll say. here it was, and now there is an expert who literally said that the russian military risked dying from behind in odessa, only means from the embrace and, uh, odessans of russians in love. so this is almost verbatim happened what happened after february 24th. we all understand very well that it's not like the inhabitants of odessa don't want to, uh, hug the russian military. and this same expert today, yesterday, the day before yesterday and tomorrow on the federal tv channel says, uh, we must go to the end. we must go to the end and so on. i wonder. if this is an examination, this analysis. in the first case, it was not

just wrong. and you can say criminally wrong, yes catastrophic catastrophic, because now sasha is shooting vaska alyoshka is shooting at andryushka. vitya burned out and so on it's happening now why should i listen and listen to opinion of the same expert, who now tells me that i need to go to the end. that's why, if in the first case, he made a mistake, who shoots andryushka, he is covered in nazi tattoos, and andryushka and he shoots yes, my friend, there is no other way out . odessans strangle us in their arms or not? i don’t know in odessa i did otherwise, but my favorite expert can be a generalization, otherwise you have your own idea, perhaps like this person you didn’t like. but is it generally at all in this, the enterprise itself, this is not a generalization, but in particular, they are fighting on different sides of the front, not one or the other to the side. here's what i'm interested in. i

have to take my side. here is this expert criticism. no, no, i was not talking about you now. you know, uh, who am i talking about? sasha is true, but you know, on the fifth of february i said here, get ready for heavy psychological blows , i said i was. he said, once again i tell the truth your expertise. you always say my point of view very often this is the key phrase in this entire expert dialogue discourse, and when man you know who i'm talking about, he is not a citizen of russia, he appears on the federal channel of a person about the surname, whom we have not yet understood, who the conversation is about becomes interesting only to those who understand yaroslavovich i return to the question on the methods of struggle. with this terrorism only in the liberated territories, or some kind of asymmetric answers, as diplomats say, but only

an asymmetric response, because if we focus only on this territory, then we are missing the most important theses. what is all special operation started? this is a matter of demonstration, and ukraine alone cannot identify ukraine, but it cannot take place without the destruction of those ruling structures that carried out this antazi ideology there, if we see how now to arrange tracts against, and representatives of the war of the civil administration in these territories on the other side . this is being approved by someone, this is being approved at the level of the ministry of defense . not a single rocket has landed with us according to the administrations, how to say, zaporozhye is not one of the officials in ukraine, the real responsibility for terrorist acts of responsibility is not clear, respectively, if we are talking with you, this is approximately the same. in the centers and so to speak, the management of fascist germany yes, i'm sorry, but the soviet union began

the bombing, and berlin on the fourth day of the start of world war ii. and we are still in some illusions, and understand there is. today you mentioned already churching. he has beautiful phrase. if you want to stay with a gentleman, don't go to war at war. there is no place for gentlemen, but these are gentlemen, and our formats are there. yes, this is certainly our population and we, and we protect it, but we are well aware that without the destruction of infrastructure it is impossible not to liberate and destroy this regime, therefore, until then. how to play the game title, and the people and the army are united and so on. from our own experience, we have here a vivid fitting of an emergency that was in illusions, could not save the country, could not give a clear answer topics. and so to speak, with the separatist mood that has ruined the country, we are now reaping the result, because what is happening in ukraine is the result of that. gkchp did it. therefore, if we continue to stay in these people, then we will be with you and we will continue to the end of these, we

must understand that we are responsible to those people who trusted us, who receive our passports, then i'm sorry. yes, what are you saying that the responsibility of this femism, then no well, look. well, let's talk then already open text. they are with the help of and themisms. for example, this is how oleg says that there, uh, the sbu of the ministry of defense, the governors in particular. yes. yes, they did not bear responsibility, as can , for example, the governor of the nikolaev region, kim, this means i translate into russian that it is necessary to destroy him, of course, and kill him accordingly, respond with mirror terror. no, ah, and not even the leaders. let me remember, if you want, and so to speak, liberate ukraine from the nazis without touching the nazis, then this is just illusions fight with hitler destruction. quiet is impossible. i now remember that it is our size, but

the period when the governing bodies of the opposite, and the countries were not, how to say, destroyed by hostilities, we are talking about the fact that in kiev the nazi regime is sergey mikhailovich vladimir vladimirovich then why is its governor kim appointed yes dacist regime, which means, uh, figure, the enemy is acting there, why can’t we liquidate him, because uh, for me, the fundamental russian culture, we should not mirror respond to the bestial behavior of the regime. we have another task. well, let's take people. let them destroy them. so let's not work to judge. it doesn't work, and then dear colleagues, please let the code of our people speak. kim has

our genetic cultural code, in short, start talking about expertise. you think that the normal thesis that everything is now happening as a result of what turns out to be how ppi did not win, but this is an outstanding analysis. this is approximately, since it is assumed that in order for it to be necessary at night do not turn on the light, but stop the sun back and then it will be about. this is also an option, who, when people will stop dying, the priority of killing. this is when there will be a ceasefire agreement and when the world of another option returns, that someone will destroy, uh, infrastructure, what objects, for example? on the border of the ussr the same thesis, even during the great patriotic war , all were restored for several hours to say that the railway tracks would significantly

change some situation. it's not like that at all so the only option. it's a return to the world of negotiation. why are we now hearing in the studio that there is no desire to eat the russian side. no desire, yes limbs, no, you say you don't need it. it means that no centers should be destroyed, and there, uh, strategic and so on, but negotiations are needed. that side that side with porridge. she will never talk to us in any way . i will not talk, she does not want to, if we are engaged in the fact that we are fighting terrorism. then it turns out that it is not enough for you to hit the infrastructure, and then it turns out that for all this to end and in the minds of people from the other side there was some kind of certainty. it is necessary to strike directly at people who cannot accept such people now. so you know, andrey vladimirovich began today with the announcement of the death of, uh, queen elizabeth a.

the only thing, in my opinion, that can return uh, understanding to people, uh and politicians. this is the return of one's own dignity and the value of human life, until, uh, it will hang on the scales. how many people died? how many killed none a return to negotiations is impossible the second prostitute in a relationship, because this is a person who worthily ruled his country for 70 years and showed dignity crowned here yes with her majesty. i just want to say that people will stop dying then nikolaevich yes, it will stop, this is a terrorist act. yes, we have further. there is a kind of conflict, we respond with terror to terror, or we somehow act differently. forgive me for now. excuse me to carry out terrorist activities. uh, exclusively ukrainian side. she carries out attacks. but

we haven’t organized assassination attempts on anyone yet , and she demands at the world level. e level recognize us as a country sponsor of terrorism. just yesterday it turned out that anthony blenkin, head of the united states department of state, was in kiev about this. actually, in general, it became known after the fact and they again had a conversation with zelensky on this topic, what should russia be recognized as a country and sponsor of terrorism, as anthony brinkin reports, 11 hours went to train to kyiv because he refused. apparently he was afraid to fly to kiev through the airspace of ukraine. hmm. so, he is assured by zelensky that washington will, and i quote , support the people of ukraine as much as necessary? e, said that the biden administration intends to allocate more than $ 2 billion for military financing of ukraine and 18 and its neighbors, who are threatened by russia here and there blinkin. uh, well, in fact, he avoided answering uh, this question about

officially recognizing russia as a terrorist state, legal reality should always correspond to reality. and it is a fact that russia has become the largest source of terrorism in the world. you can choose this or that format of procedures, this or that formula of legal pressure on russia for terror, but the world must also receive an unambiguous signal that russian terror will not be forgiven. from what now is moscow already turning for military support to iran's north korea since we systematically cover up access to imports and will continue to exert this pressure? now i remind you again that a few days ago there was a statement by president biden, then an explanation from the white house press service that they would not, huh?