i mean, uh, you can't mr. evidence. so let's make, uh, a simple agreement to protect the stations. i have already contacted both. so i guess we'll meet to review the plans within 10 days, or two weeks at the most, and we're ready again. we will discuss something, listen, what obligations can ukraine take on even if it says 28,000 times we will no longer shoot at the station, but we know here and now that they will do this, and they keep doing it in front of people the rich who stayed at the station, and the barrel highway which i recalled, also my favorite character about the fascist state , froze something then tried to somehow replay the wrong period. what is the wrong translation, where is the wrong translation, maybe you don’t need to deal with them at all, what do you think? well sorry roman on the grain deal. i understand that many european leaders gave their word and extended their hands. therefore, we kind of didn’t

believe them, we gave them a chance. and there is no chance. why we successfully blew it, so now our hands are untied, and we can act as president putin said at the far eastern forum. now, as they say, the ball is on our side. you know, the europeans remind me of such a bonfire now, which seems to understand everything, but ca n't do anything. yes, he has such a goal, tied to a stone, yes, anglo-saxon. and so they try to pull something to pull this chain, but nothing comes out. she only gives such squeaks. moreover , the script is so last about with whom in europe agree. let's remember there was once in europe in jacques chirac helmut kohl forgive the uk was even tony blair god forgive me from the seven, at least somehow it was possible to build a dialogue. and how to build a dialogue from a sheet. yes , renaming one well-known russian proverb there once, not a sheet of times, but in the case of rhinestones, probably still once, so often i don’t understand how i don’t envy our diplomat, who are representatives of such an old one, including international schools for which the word much means, and they scatter me. well what is being said. trails what to talk about with the

americans? how can you even count on europe now? let's face it, boris borisovich sighs heavily. and now, somewhere at the front, our soldiers are dying heavily, who are being hammered by european ones, whose weapons are being hammered from french artillery installations, which are driven by german polish tanks. here they also sigh and wonder. and how is it that 2/3 of europe is now flooding ukraine with money for weapons and actually fighting, uh, vs. well, how about us or michael michael, how would you comment on the numerous presence of the former there, i don’t know the ones who left here is the graduation of a us military intelligence officer now in ukraine. what are they doing there, collecting butterflies or building democracy? maybe you don’t fully understand something and everyone is avoiding this answer, what are they doing? how many such russian experts? i'm sorry, we're running a special military operation, we're doing it openly. we do compliance. people. you answer us in ukraine yes. you see,

this moment just needs to be recorded now michael, you got into ukraine and we are not waging a hybrid war against us, but you are not there to listen to your politicians. you are building a democracy. you are building, we all understand very well that in iraq we all saw what you did with libya, where the american boot appears, there inevitably comes a real hell in the world and there is no smell of democracy, because, as they said in one famous film , russian. yes remember everything is simple, except for money. that's all, as you think, maybe you don't need to talk about anything with them anymore. thanks that this is for our conversation. uh, that's what you think, well, you and i are representatives of different political directions, obviously. and we are talking to you because we live in the same country. i will be the same now, but there is no assumption that we will divide the planet for two or eight hours, so there is nothing, because if we are with you, despite the fact that we are in

political views, we will agree on something. oh, i trust you, but i will trust you exactly until you deceive me. same. you you you will trust me exactly as long as i do not deceive you. but if you deceived me once, deceived twice, or i deceived you. well, it doesn’t matter, yes, 1 2 3. well, it ’s probably necessary to stop some. actually conversations. i'm talking about this, if you and i are now an example, uh, as two private individuals, probably really will end the relationship. but, if you and i understand that the future side depends on our communication. this means that we will still need to communicate, because there is no other option, or then we need to leave with you and say, that everything roman and i did not manage. we don't trust each other. please come someone else everything today another version of nobody everything is normal everything in the owner's life. now i will give the floor to vladimir night relations. uh, packaging and uh, most advertising is exactly what the goods are only americans politicians they are all and the robberies of the crime

cover up very nicely in ukraine, the coup they say, no, you are promoting democracy. we defend freedom of speech, vanya, you will not be exactly the same, and here they are talking, guys. give back the grain us, but in the same it would be obvious, well, no matter how ugly africa is starving africa recoil. we saw. well, why are we leading nikolaevich to this? did you do it right , do you know why? because the next story would be such that africa is starving. now look what putin was talking about when he says there is a reformatting in the world on march 2, america well, actually, the americans are introducing a un resolution condemning actions. uh, so to speak, russia and even people have not figured it out to the end. and here and in the world 141 countries voted for the support of this resolution and the studio of ninety- three countries incoming here, and the twenty-sixth. 52

how many were there? and on the twenty-sixth of august, not the second resolution is being introduced, everyone already understood what was at stake and voted. there are 54 countries like this, and there are 141 countries that are partners, they should be treated differently. so, when putin used all this phrase, a potential adversary finally told the truth that such a partnership is any joint activity according to the rules. yeah well, what kind of partnership is this 300 billionnulled. yes, kidok for grain and for all other questions. yeah, it looks like it, so why did we do it? why no, frankly , not long ago everything was violated, because only the people. here the price setting will pass, yes, gas and oil will continue to be the price of any goods in china in any world, they began to regulate what is the basis of the market price. education is second, but what we

do not see in sports. without russia, we will win, as this is also a market. they spat for a long time. they begin to manage globally, what is necessary oppose. this is a different concept, which is why russia has led the process of demonopolization of current world politics. now we're watching won they say you need to reformat and eventually take away the rights to this one, yeah. this is how things stand or in europe yes. this is not absolutely necessary. a statement that, in principle, can lead to something that there will be no un medvedev answered correctly. yes, this dust, as he said there, you are tormented to add, yes, and it will end smoothly. just like michael ended the province say, you know, the best day would be to be silent after the presidential election. not me, trump says, but biden, he says, there are 70 million, semi-fascists. you know why the semi-fascist said he had a term of apoka,

by the end there will be 70 million fascists. do you understand or not, that is, they introduced the principle of regulating democracy. today you are making elections in ukraine. there are five parties, any of them are american , it’s like any horse at the races, put it there in ukraine, this is the mustang of the american mustang has come to the finish line, as a difference, so we have to fight with this and putin calls for every country to be small big and small equal voice in the world. and that's right maykov and if you can go. back to the words of president putin and when he said, we have not lost anything and will not lose anything, and the strengthening of the russian federation is thanks to a special operation. am after all from in ties. i would like to quote a famous russian person. you know him well, he often participates in these programs. and hmm because i want to do his laundry, because he said it better than me. and when you're short

quote when you hear. you will be very surprised, because this is not some enemy of the people. it's not the other side. agent is not the least already. good. come on, i am a cosmopolitan without a motherland, as we listen attentively to well-born cosmopolitans. this is timbre. this is very respected. uh, a well-known authoritative russian russian general, and he said, so as not to be mistaken, i verbatim. why is it good to use the military environment against ukraine to question the existence of russia itself as a state of military actions against russia forever make russians and ukrainians mortal enemies. russia will turn into an outcast of the world community and will probably be deprived of the status of an independent state. this was written by none other than colonel general leonid and entered. this is all

about strengthening russian sovereignty, and we will not lose anything. it's just a word, but that's all, if they ivashov since when did they become an apostle , a witness of christ, uh, the author of part of the bible well, you are his opinion leonid and entered one of the many many people who have opinions, which proves that we are a democracy, please, we even have people in uniform say what they think, even if they are deeply mistaken and the president’s statement is another one. eugene i'm already coming to you. yes, and one more statement about how people actually relate to the kiev regime in ukraine, let's listen. there are a huge number of people in ukraine who hate this regime and are ready to fight. with this, they are under the yoke of the neo-nazi regime - this i assure you there are many such people and we must maintain relations with them. let's do it

do and i am sure that the future of russian and ukrainian relations is precisely. uh, behind this part of ukrainian society. there are really a lot of such people there. based on ukrainian polls, especially the latest ones, the level of support for zelensky is up to 90%, uh, negative attitudes towards russia are also under 90%. this, again, emphasizes only from a solid part of society that lends itself to this measurement. why a huge number of people very clearly formulate their thoughts are found. in fact, the underground, they are outside of this discourse, outside of this discussion, because what do you understand about the questions of this life. this is not a political career this is not a public censure. and it happened. not today, not yesterday. this process has gone serious and radical. door since the fourteenth year, that is, this process of closing a part of society, especially in the east of ukraine, this is a real process, but we must not forget. and you know, you asked a question. what about who to trust? whom not to believe? how to understand?

do you remember how many years we talked about ukraine, do you think the west is tired of this? no, they are just they feel they have been drinking champagne for half a year. i agree with someone, because this is a suicide that is happening. this is a very serious story and question. perhaps we should not deceive ourselves. i will say one more thing. and why did you decide that they are not consolidated elite society, they sold anti-russia to western society. actually. this mobilizes the elite as well. rather, it somehow connects both the elite and society, and i will give an example of the notorious italy that you roman spoke about. i looked at the ips questions with 65% anti-russian sentiment. it so many. well, i won’t speak of poles for 80%. they are the most russophobic according to the data, and there 52 countries passed from europe, just singled out. only e such components that say why you decide that the italians are loyal there. do you think the greeks are loyal there, this is a big mistake, the same greeks. today we can say that they

tortured them for how many more? sorry, they work on that agenda and there is no agenda to support you another argument about finland there 80% now according to the latest data this is what i'm looking at the finnish question is for nato, by the way, this is what you talked about, this is a very important thing. what the president of the russian federation also spoke about, uh, finland's entry into nato is the destruction of the helsinki world. this is it, in my opinion. this is a very important symbolic, if a military thing, because when the war veterans, who were over 60, there imposed us or a little older those who went through the war, when agreements were signed 30 years after the war. this gave stability. and now it's destroyed. it is this world that is being destroyed, it is being reformatted. and if we want to get some answer to the question. how will it be in ukraine so far, except for hatred, you would not find anything there. now in the process of even warming up goes further. we should not create the illusion that everything is very good there. in general, we do not understand the information on

many positions. we don't have experts who can say that it's 100% right there, we just have to not deceive ourselves and build no illusions about what is happening, that this is a tough situation. but i can say to bring pre-war sociology, what we are talking about we’ve been talking about it for many years, you know, we lived under the minsk agreements for so many years, it’s terrible - it’s been so many years and you are tired, and we are tired of this and we said that it will not work and will not fly. well, the reaction has already happened. so , i will now say that the following before the war , more than sixty-five percent of the citizens of ukraine did not consider that we are brotherly people and friendly states now. i think this indicator is roman no, this word is completely, this indicator has turned over in exactly six months, and in sociology this is not saw, in fact. never from the fraternal side of a friendly state. in march already in april of the fourteenth year. majority. the same number considered russia an enemy country and a source of threat. for ukraine it happened not today and not february 24, what happened in the spring of 14 is not

surprised? you are a sociologist. let me ask you a question . it is very interesting to me. and tell me, please, when you say the mood in ukraine, but these moods, these dimensions include the dpr, the lpr, zaporozhye, kherson no, of course, we we proceed from the fact that these territories are not ukraine, the truth comes to remain sociology. wait, wait. here you need to understand very clearly where they get it. yes, on which we are not, who do not look at us, and does not concern us in a country where there is a war and a totalitarian regime of sociology, one must be careful. why because in nikolaev they went around all the apartments and looked at the phones? and now spend there, that whole deep fear. here is not a single acquaintance, he says you know everything, he used to talk to people with comrades. got it dangerous then the kitchen is dangerous. i talk with a

pillow i talk with a pillow. why because there is a danger here boris borisovich said several such interesting things here, yes, his point of view. you would have already been prosecuted for betraying the motherland there in ukraine. no, alternatively, everyone is sitting, absolutely everyone is sitting. it's true, russia. i like to explain it well. so love, as they love in ukraine, and people are sitting there for such a point of view. there is no other. there's only one question now is that uh such with such a state that we can it's a tragedy. i'll tell you, honestly, we are killing the same people in this tracker, we are killing the americans, the europeans are happy, but unfortunately, it is a fact that we need to give a message. in my opinion. that's twice. i already heard vladimir vladimirovich putin on february 24th. and now the ukrainian state is understandable not to this, not to bendery, the question arises among people. and what was this state? will it be more fair if they again rule the score? what

kind of huckster politicians are oligarchs and so on? why are we we suffer for what we shed blood people are carried away by the future, but also by the unknown, so we must give a send. this is how you know, i give you answers on my own ground in the fight against corruption, and so on they ask a question. and who are you? i say, well, like that's politics and so on. well, what and what is the authorized ghetto like what we could elect, and then ask you, that is, we form a positive image of the ukraine that will be and these people should be responsible for this ukraine then we split the society, and they rely on zelensky, which he does not care about this ukrainian people will enter to the last in the blood and people who will say, yes, the situation is difficult, but let's finally think about the future. what is it that we have survived this war is no longer exactly our children have not encountered, nor mental phenomena. i've been listening,

and in my head all the time in the thought. somewhere somewhere here is something very sensitive somewhere. i've heard it before, i went through such a movement. there is a photograph of a crying boy who learned that hitler had capitulated to the germany guitar youth. and in in principle, the history of germany clearly shows that the processes of genocification are not one day, two days people did not ask to be freed from fascism in germany absolutely. no, they did not know that they would be released. they lived in a paradigm that suited everything. but when they suddenly found out about what was going on it's like that. you know now a sociological survey, i agree completely that this thing does not show anything, because many people live in a paradigm. when you hear from politicians who actually legalize fakes, they say that thousands of children die every day, but if you're fine, now you hear, it's you, too, frost on the skin will go. yes , accordingly, when you legalize with the help of political persons , you know there is no technology, it’s true, it’s impossible to say, so denocification is the only way to talk

in the future of ukraine and i would say, i ’ll say it as a philosopher, just a thing during the military actionology on the corner nothing to do there. there is now a reformatting of consciousness. you correctly said the whole people of the whole whole society is a society, when you finish all this then, when such a situation, when we understand, will it hurt and now it hurts and will continue, but 90% of ukrainians, who support zelensky and 90% of ukrainians, who hate russia, i don’t believe in this, i’m not a philosopher sociologist, i absolutely agree. i absolutely agree. i think that, well, it's generally strange to actually make some kind of sociological measurements. well, now, well, it's strange exactly on those, i answered those, uh, questions that you asked and the information that i have, but at least if we

let's take it european trend roman it's not very pleasant things, we er, you know, we have to be honest too. this is not very pleasant in europe, i am trying to make two things happen, that europe is not tired. i am not sure that we are not deceiving the population of russia, not the litas, and not our allies, friends, or those who are more that they are not tired. for them, it's just a boost. this is war, it is destruction. and until we understand this, we will rush about in these illusions, we will talk. our partners are opponents, so society is already beginning to realize and not because i want it. the last thing i would like to tell you about these things, but another very important circumstance is that the consolidation of european society is underway. we are also trying to introduce some kind of confusion, that they are not torn there, that they will fall down there and not fall off. they are now in the public domain. yes, i absolutely agree with you, many people loyal to russia, but they are not in the trend from the word , there will come a change for me. i will tell you

very clearly when the elites, when the political leadership of countries will make such statements, which will lead to a world of no arms supplies and agreements that guarantee the conduct of the future and asked a question about vladimir vladimirovich putin when he said what is needed for any resident of ukraine now on one side or another of the front, in addition to hatred. he needs to understand what the story will be like next, the picture of the future, if we do not show this picture of the future, then it is difficult for us to have anyone believe. it is difficult to ever agree, because now the installation of the ukrainian political leadership of the current lack of any negotiations. it was still an illusion. well, at the end of february at the beginning of march, when these first conversations were over, this topic was closed. and now i don't know what's going to happen. i tell you frankly , there are things, but which i will not give an answer. i agree with the philosopher. now, when guns are talking, well, sociology. she is not around the corner, she is really only filming margarita, only a

part of the measurement of society, which is consolidated and articulates this very clearly, but, unfortunately, what we talked about the risks before the special military operation. unfortunately, this sociology was not heard then. that's the trouble, because we had a lot of specialists who spoke well about this, but i agree that we need to give a picture of the future. a picture of the future must be given. well, in order for this picture of the future to be perceived, perhaps we need to somehow become more active in the ukrainian direction. it’s already somehow tougher to behave, because we are all trying, then some kind of negotiations, then some kind of gestures. kind will, then something else, but in the end we see that against us and the commander-in-chief says that it is necessary to carry out terrorist acts. they are engaged in these terrorist acts, blowing up power lines, shelling the station, killing people, people were shot there and so on, they do all this. maybe even tougher, it's time. no. but you saw the news that came before our broadcast that

ah, just in these settlements. now the evacuation of the civilian population is being actively carried out, the settlements for which we are worried are it's been a couple of days, right? and now the world population is being evacuated. i'm wondering why you remember in winter , when vladimir vladimirovich called on people to evacuate from the territory of the dpr, he announced payments of 10,000 rubles each. we talked, we discussed. yes , i say yes, it will. well, it's not possible for him to just say that, time. he said so, as if now it will begin. well, i don't know, i'm not inside, thank god they accepted the points that are under the control of ukraine. and there is a life support system. and there are a huge number bridges. it’s just that i just remember what they were talking about, there are an infinite number of experts there are bridges over which troops are transferred for all kinds of counter-offensives, including how

hard it is for boris the big one sighs life has cracked, apparently for a long time, because he constantly sighs human. and there is, you know, you know what i'm talking about, there is a system of life. cities swell without a liver. so i remember, there the thermal power plant in belgrade was destroyed by the second blow by the second blow. and there were no problems and no one flinched at these guys. they said that this is a military facility, because this power plant not only provides electricity to people's apartments, but it also supplies military facilities, including the general staff, and the sewerage system. they did not flinch and struck. they hit the oil refinery in panchivaya. i remember this is the fourth or fifth, and the blow to yugoslavia and they said that this grandiose oil refinery. and they said it was a military facility. why because the army also uses this gasoline, not only ambulances problems and so on. i understand about this, that this only proves that they are beating,

destroying, from their point of view, foreign territory and foreign people. but we still consider it ours not today. so tomorrow is not tomorrow. so the day after tomorrow, well , yours. this is the first. the second is my kind of boris. boris. can i say that with you, i don’t understand, bring you something, a pill, some cake , some tea, you speak according to the program. i was silent until the presenter asked me a question. he asked me a question, and the second one is some kind of small one. life experience tells me here are the experts you refer to. yes, what the experts said, then they said it. this is wonderful. but these are experts. that is why experts do not command military units are not responsible for a special military operation of the people who command it and are responsible for the most part. we don’t even know the names, probably, after all, people on the spot know better, and probably. we can't have better answers for them than they have when this is all

over with god's help. and no, no doubt, what you say, everything ends. we will understand this and one remark. sorry i hear that already music you said you need a picture of the future. i would say that in this situation the best picture of the future. this is a general picture of the past of our common recent past, when we are all together, when victory day, when there is a parade, when both russian and ukrainian are taught, when wonderful songs are sung in kokoshniks in one language and in another and on the move all together all are happy, everyone is calm and proud that we are together, of course, as it was possible. i'm back for everything, different impossible for another historical perspective, another is impossible. thanks for everything i want to say. i don't think it's necessary to keep negotiating with all these guys. if you can, their organizations there are countries that will tell us what they are. yes, they are ready to

sit down at the negotiating table with us to sign some deals. it's all useless, again we will be deceived later. there's time again we'll have to talk. well, how is it? we believed them, they deceived us again, there is no trust in these people, as for, regarding the situation directly in the conflict zone. this is war, but at war. this is not a disco. this is a war within a war, it can be different . today we have success. tomorrow they will succeed . if we approach everything that is happening today from this point of view. and we are watching all these events. of course, going through the need to do a very simple thing you need. i just mean russia needs to be understood, if we made some mistakes calmly analyze them and make sure that more of these there were no errors. anyway. we will win anyway, because we are many times stronger and our task in itself is correct. it is more correct than those of these people. that is, the truth is on

our side, it cannot be otherwise, we will win, that's all. thanks again to everyone. in a week in this studio and remember that all participants in our programs have their own truth, but we will always get to the bottom of the truth. his fate became one of the cornerstones of the great russian world in the history of bohdan khmelnitsky reflected all the impossibility to preserve for the russian orthodox person in that ukraine was russian his honor, his dignity and even his family. the pereyaslav rada is the highest point of the life and political path. bogdan khmelnitsky, if only because the union with moscow preserved and multiplied orthodox ukraine , gathered, divided by the mongol invasion of their princely strife. russian people and a single body has never been easy. but we still won every time, let them immediately inevitably win.

bogdan mikhailovich khmelnitsky in baptism, zinovy ​​family the cossack’s clerk, the clerk of the zaporizhzhya troops and then the hetman, a dashing warrior, could go out with a saber alone against four, the favorite of the king of poland vladislav the fourth most educated person at that time. his fate became one of the cornerstones of the great russian world, his place next to the saints vladimir the red sun and alexander nevsky to the commanders suvorov and commander kutuzov. bogdan khmelnitsky was born in 1595 in the family of a centurion who served. hetman of the polish-lithuanian

commonwealth stanislav zhalkievsky birthplace, perhaps, the city of chigirin was where khmelnitsky's father was going to file zhalkievsky, by the way, in 1610 he went on a campaign against mine and there defeated the troops of our prince dmitry shuisky after a negotiation with the boyars, which resulted in the election of prince vladislav to the moscow throne, the polish army was admitted to moscow almost certainly in 1610. khmelnitsky senior was on that campaign as a conqueror and was part of moscow and quite possibly a son. he was there in russian history. often so yesterday's enemies can to turn into best friends, and the near boyars, well-fed court jesters, give and sell, so it also happens that we are at the very beginning of this story. it is necessary to remember the phrase small russia until 1654 .