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plus nine, and then the sun and heat. yes , thanks irina. it was the weather forecast from irina polyakova, that's all for now, visit our website ntv.ru see you soon. beyond the limit, 69-year-old olga berukova said. she rescued from slavery a woman without legs and documents, who begged for alms on the street in chelyabinsk, an unfortunate hope was called and smirnova olga laughed at her, she settled in her apartment, a new settler tells
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olga you now live they don’t live like that. now you want to live with olga, no, except that
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she lives at home, a homeless woman, that she brought a disabled woman to the garden, without legs, as if we were in general in shock, it turned out that she even confuses the date of birth with her place of birth. it's called right here, actually ufa. this is not ufa abzakovo, and as it turned out later, she didn’t have a passport at all, that is, she remained in the
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ussr i don't have a passport. why because uh, mean, uh, hope was attracted to administrative responsibility for this period. you are talking about nadezhda smirnova true, of course, but not the fact that this woman is really nadezhda smirnova no, i don’t think so. i'm more inclined. that i am leading the way of life that has developed for her lately. she had some mental changes that a person, uh, can not realize, uh, his date of birth, for example, cannot remember uh, place of birth, natalya, do you think this is the same nadezhda or is this another person? and i think the answer to this question only possible by requesting the relevant documents, that is, try to restore. documents to apply to government agencies, and in turn, i can help make a lawyer's request to find out, but still the
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place of the date of birth and is it really, hope is hope? and how will they determine that nadezhda is really nadezhda does not have a passport? by what signs will all this be done, but nevertheless, she points out that she lost her documents and yet her passport was once issued, which is issued on the basis of a birth certificate. that is, if at least once in her life she received a passport, and simply lost it later, then, accordingly, uh, they have to request all this data. yes, and there will be photographs of this person for archival data from registry offices of photography. no, well, here, let's say, if i come tomorrow, no one knows me and i'll call myself, uh, matvey ivan, for example. my photos are not there. well the age matches. for example, i had such a friend matvey ivanov, i know that he was born on august 10th. i'll tell you everything. uh,
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there is no photo of this very friend’s entire biography, and you are there yourself for this very matvey ivanov. look , if you come to the registry office and declare that you are matvey ivanov, you will be asked to show your passport. i have lost nothing personally to you personally to you the registry office will not give you any information here you need to involve, and a lawyer who can make a lawyer's request here needs to contact the police. here you need to contact the fms to request any data, whether passport data was issued for this person or not, that is, it is necessary to establish all these circumstances in a chain. just to come to the registry office to be called nadezhda, of course, no one will give any information here in this situation. i think that she was detained on administrative offenses. it could play a positive role. the fact is that, uh, in my opinion, since 2000, we have a system in the ministry of internal affairs that, uh, rolls back the fingers of all detainees who fall into the system of the ministry of internal affairs and on a
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fingerprint card. it will be possible to accurately identify whether this is a person, that is, about boys will be able to determine whether this is hope or not, yes hope, but you had administrative offenses. yes? the police took you. no no, that was before you came to see your sister who died. listen, she was still in the hospital, she was lying, as we remember, yes, that is, accordingly, there may be some kind of request to make a request. that is, if this person was treated, accordingly, some borders where she was treated need to be unraveled along the chain, and step by step to find out what kind of person he is, where he is from, and so on sergey and you managed to find out where the wife is hope of how she wanted to come to her sister. well , actually came to my sister. and she has already died, traces lead to the amur region and, accordingly
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, here we can talk about her son, who, uh, just lived in the amur region too. if e to touch on this topic, then the son, previously convicted here. here and uh, multiple convictions. basically, it is 152 158 part two or part one. that is, it is theft. all very unusual thefts of the theft of bicycles in two by three, that is, at once. and so the periodicity is very clear, e, in practice, one theft is followed by another, that is, an unwillingness to live in our society. yes, that is, the desire to be in the society where he is fully provided nadezhda do you know, well, at least approximately the address where your son sergey can be now, did you succeed? yes , to find out, this address is still the last address, it was the amur region, we also eat, so
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a very interesting meeting was waiting for us at the address. let's see, the amur region, the village of semidovka was exactly here in 2009, after being released from prison. eugene's supposed son arrived a homeless woman without documents was not at home, he was met by elena pankova, who sheltered a man at her place, her son came to us and said that he told us there was nowhere for the guy to go to the orphanage where i was freed, so we sheltered him here and gave him a residence permit. well, for a while. he lives here with us. yes, in a hospitable boy, somewhere in the village they will even ask for help, too, he will not refuse anyone. even learned to give birth. well done elena said. she repeatedly asked yevgeny about his past. man always answered briefly about his family. he only knows that his father took him away from his mother when he was 7 years old with his father, he lived for 3 years at 10 years old. his father
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gave it away, well abandoned him, he was decided parental rights by his mother. he knows that smirnova nadezhda remember, he does not remember her. when i went to the internet it means, yes, he tried something there and then it means, uh, well, nothing came out of it and somehow abandoned everything and not before, not before he was at work. well, in general, my hands didn’t reach, maybe i didn’t really want to, but i always to him hope is the right of your son in question. are you sure that the father is dead, and the son?
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accordingly, she simply could not be found in the orphanage. nadezhda, you knew that he had such a fate. no, you can imagine, but he has been looking for you mom all his life. do you think he wants to see you now. do you want this meeting? do you ask your son for forgiveness? hope, we managed to contact evgeny. afraid that
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your life will not accept you in a direct connection with our studio. evgeny hello hello evgeny hello, your friend told us about that. that you all your life you look for your mother twice, then you give up the whole thing. i don’t have a mother and never had one, and for them to know i don’t know anything, it doesn’t mean, to be honest, i don’t want to do anything. i don't
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blame god probably, yes, but eugene surely you 've ever been in your thoughts? did you imagine meeting your mother as a child? what is the main question? you would have asked her all this time for 20-39 years, where was she? where did she disappear to? and if now she appeared in your life, i would like to ask how she got there in the first place. slavery, and where she lost her legs, she was taken from slavery by one compassionate woman named olga and she now lives with her and olga nadezhda
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just told. that she went to visit her sister , but by that time her sister was no longer there, she died, but at the same time your mother remained in this city; she had no more relatives there. she had nowhere to go. uh, so she stayed outside with frostbite on her feet. after that, they amputated them. well, just as i thought that my legs were frostbitten and frostbitten, you probably did, yes, yes, well, you see, even i guess this information, because i know how it left my father. she says that the father himself left and took you away, because she was walking, caught me on her red with other men, took her away, so he, accordingly, what should he do? why does he need such a wife? yes? and there is such a mother, why? what did you take from me? are you grateful to your father for this?
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of course, he did, no matter what he was, but he did it for me, that is, you would not let her into your life now. and where do i let her go myself to with a kind word, good people instilled in me also replaced my mother and sister and brother and everyone in my life, and my mother, so it didn’t matter to me that i was brought up in a shelter alone and ended up. if only my mother hadn't left me, maybe i didn't turn out myself, but i have creeping people. they took me and studied, did a residence permit, otherwise i would be like a mother now. how to persuade without a knock, maybe without a head. where do you live now? eugene the fact is that now
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i have a woman with me who calls herself your mother. you want to tell her something. mom i am her i won't name it for sure. how should i contact aunt nadia, but for some reason she was nadezhda viktor smirnova, as far as i know, they told me at the boarding school that she is nadezhda viktorovna, and she tells us that she is nadezhda vladimirovna, i don’t know, i know other information that she is nadezhda viktorovna smirnova a here i look, in general, something and everything has already changed, where she was born. your mother, what date was she born before ten years old
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? you say, and then 29 passed here here they all showed up, i understand your resentment and your pain. everything here is clear what to say the fact is that now she would like to see you. you know, to be honest, i don’t even want to ask her any question, since she herself chose in this life. what questions can i ask her? where have you been? and where were you? so what and what? something will change, is that it? i myself answered the question a long time ago, so i stopped looking. i understood, so what does it mean, if it's not looking for me, it means it's not needed, it means
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change, so my father took me away from her. everything she wants. it's easy to see you. you agree to such a meeting, and i just need time to think, otherwise, this chair happens in this life, it’s not clear, then it’s not here. here they showed up. i understand you eugene all this fell on you like snow on your head. this is your right. thank you for talking to us and ready to think about a possible meeting with the mother. ok, good bye. hope we will then wait for his answer roman what do you think? eugene wants to see his mother. to me it seems not. i feel a bit, he has a very expressive voice and really his pain was transmitted. it seems to me that no. although i would very much
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like for this to happen, for there to be some kind of reconciliation, some kind of acceptance. i think that the situation will change a lot when they meet, because it's one thing to talk on the phone like this and another thing when a son looks into his mother's eyes. it will be completely different. can he forgive her? i think that he can not now in the place of evgeny, of course, i forgave one simple reason, she gave him the most valuable. this is his life. he is alive, he breathes, he sees this world only thanks to this woman. this is worthy of respect. you know, an amazing life, of course, probably justly cruel. this is a kind of boomerang principle, because when you have hope
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, i'm sorry, i will now say, maybe not very pleasant things, when you had legs you could look for your son. you lost him, you didn't run, through the fields after him through the cities, to find him, you didn't tell him now. i'm sorry, you understand that's when they heard his voice. and now, several years have passed, it turns out that nobody needs you, you understand. you are only needed for business purposes. this slavery is your seat on the porch. uh, olya, who still doesn’t leave me with the thought that olya wants guardianship over you for the sake of money. i can't get rid of this thought. here it is, the principle of a boomerang. you see, something happened to you that , apparently, it probably should have happened and now you must ask for forgiveness from your son, who wandered and yes, you gave him life, but then
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his whole life no longer depended on you, and his life was completely non-sugar. what do you think, what a miracle should happen so that the son of nadezhda not only sees her, but takes her to him, this is a miracle in general, perhaps he himself is homeless, as i understand it, but the voice has a very beautiful voice this guy has so directly energetic, and i felt that he would very much like to see his mother very much, of course, he blames her for everything with pretension. but he really wants, maybe not me, in general i understand him and my mother understands, they must definitely see because he must understand that he has one person left on this earth, this mother , you understand, this is no longer his role as a mother. she did not fulfill, did not fulfill, but she did succeed , these are two close people. whatever the
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outcome. let no one forgive anyone. and let them see each other once in not the first and last, but it will be a very great event for everyone. and what about the bloodshed for nadezhda now? we are ready to provide shelters for the blood of a person. residence rules. if nadezhda is ready for this, then this is three meals a day. this is care. uh, babysitter wow three meals a day. he was sitting. yes, great walks. yes, much better nadezhda and here to live in this center. fine. will the former captive, accustomed to imprisonment and begging, be able to start a new life, the most important thing for her is to go through
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and three years of non -experimentation 63-year-old nadezhda smirnova introduced herself this way. a woman who sewed the opportunity to find a khan moved to a social center in the suburbs hello nadezhda welcome to the center live people from a similar fate. those who lost relatives became invalids. the house and the most important thing for her is to go through this first stage of social adaptation, when a person gets used to new conditions, a woman will not have to pay for accommodation, food and care of the center’s employees, not a ruble, however, like everyone living here, they will have to do passive labor to knit or embroider. she e as an obligatory element, social adaptation, feasible work that is available to a person, that is, not violence after a week of stay. the former captive of the shelter is again going to the studio programs. beyond the border
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, a man whom she considers her son suddenly agreed to meet him in the studio nadezhda smirnova hello nadezhda we are glad to see you better again you are satisfied with your new place residence. sergey nadezhda has a comfortable accommodation in the center; she lives three of us in a room. that is, now she is going through a stage of social adaptation. hope is now slowly starting to knit. that is, it turns out that she knows how to knit and this occupation is to her heart, and nadezhda communicates with other people in your center. well, of course, they live there as a family, that
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is, our task is for every homeless person to perceive this place as a home. hope tell me, have you already got friends, a friend, there is, yes, hope. i am very glad that in your deepest the eyes that suffered through this grief of life, and today they are completely different with you, even the plastic is different, they didn’t turn their heads, your hands were silent. now you live right roman remember, you said that you doubt that the son needs a meeting with his mother. are you surprised that he still decided on this, i'm more glad than surprised, although surprised, of course, hope. you are afraid of this meeting meeting with evgeny and what do you think, you will immediately recognize him , will you understand right away? is it your heart that should tell, he really took a long time to decide
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yevgeny pavlenko came to this meeting and today still flew to us in court hello hello evgeny to be honest, many of us are surprised that you nevertheless decided to fly to us today. yes, i made up my mind. i just want to, well, find out, for 30 years she has never appeared in my life, of course. mom, i can't name her. i know her, like she is smirnova nadezhda viktorovna, let me introduce you to this woman with nadezhda vladimirovna. i don’t know, i can’t even say anything. do you feel something about to the woman sitting opposite you. honestly,
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no, nadezhda and your heart is also silent, nothing in common, you are similar to your husband's family. yes, this is your maiden name, he was not painted with her. well, that is, they lived in a civil marriage, as far as i know, your parents were not officially married. no, it turns out that your father, since he took you away, means that he was officially your father, but he was officially registered as pavlenko nadezhda . tell me, were you married to him? why? and he was married, it turns out, did you go in mistresses, or something, that's why you and him
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broke up, because he had a different family. and why eugene raised his hand in front of me, i never raised it, i don’t know. tell me how it turned out. your life is seven years old, when dad took me, there swords and now 10 years old, i got. he was brought up in a shelter , it was hard, of course, and he was drawn to go home. no matter what the house was until 10 years old, 3 years, yes, when he didn’t drink, everything was fine, and then, when he started to go into a binge, accordingly, i started running away from home, and people began to watch what i started. well, to engage in theft and something somewhere. well, to create there to be weird with your own. yes, probably, as it
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usually happens, i was issued accordingly. here's a shelter father tried to bring you back relatives or mother's relatives. after depriving him of parental rights, he did not try to bring you together. no, that is, until the age of majority. you lived in this hostel. didn't you have to get an apartment from the state, like an orphan? nobody told me, nobody explained about housing. the guy told me willingly. he was a lawyer. and here he is i was told that i was supposed to be provided with housing, this issue is controlled by the guardianship and guardianship authorities and but at the place of release. i would like to ask which orphanage you graduated from for 18 years. lokhvitsy, belogorsky district, so you
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know where it is? that is, we can safely send a request and find out if he is on the waiting list for housing, and that he can still be on the waiting list there absolutely yes, he has such a right even after 23 years. if a child in need of housing is not received this housing, yes, then indeed, with confirmation of the fact that he was put on the waiting list and as a needy, as an orphan, in fact, yes, whose parents are deprived of parental rights, he has the right to judicially, and to demand, uh, gave him this living space, natalya, you will take this issue under your control. of course i can help make the appropriate requests. at least them, but all the facts to compare a single chain and help a person, yes. eugene and
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after when you graduated from the orphanage, you tried to find the mother. no, she did not try to bet, imprisonment, and so many years you have spent in prison 8 years to date. i didn’t know what was wrong with her and why she left me at all, why she didn’t want and wasn’t interested that i got on the internet, and no matter how the badges were on me , 30 years had passed. they tell me they are completely different people. it was with your program that they called me and said that my mother was found, that she was looking for me. i also know from your people that she fell into slavery, that she got frostbite on her legs. you see that hope speaks the truth. well, about disability. yes, of course, well, only i am tormented by the question, how was this possible, then marina drank if the fault of
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hope, in your opinion, is that yevgeny's life went downhill. well, of course there is. i have already said, nadezhda, you did not run after your son, under any circumstances, while you could still go looking, screaming, calling, running somewhere to demand to look for your son. you didn't. he started looking for you. but you never looked for him, in general, you don’t motherly understand, regardless of circumstances. her life was terrible and cruel , and especially in the first place herself, of course, and the child who did not have a number paid the price. neither mother nor father. as a result, he had no support, no upbringing. he just didn't have a kind word and a child. hmm what in the end what kind of life did he have again eugene who
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do you blame that your life went so to put it mildly , i do not perfectly blame myself. to be honest, i started living like this myself. and now you have some close people, this is elena nikolaevna pankova, who she has taken me in since 2009. who is she to you? but she replaced my sister and mom and dad and replaced everyone. how did you get to know yourself? her son was also in prison with me, and i was released in 2009. i had nowhere to go. he sent me to his home. that's the way i am, well i stayed. is it possible that a woman without legs and documents is not the one she claims to be, or that yevgeny left to the mercy of fate 29 years ago will be
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, a woman who calls herself nadezhda smirnova was told that he wants to see him, his mother is also called, her own was unknown all these years. she did not live in torment, because at first she lost her legs, then she fell into slavery. why did you decide to have foot exposure at all? yes, you remember how we fell into slavery. eugene only remembers about his mother that she regularly took a bottle for 7 years, his father took him to another city, but also to his father. he soon became unneeded until he pecking began to drink. they took me to the boarding school. have strangled parental rights until the age of 18, eugene lived on the internet. somewhere in the agricultural college. but painted 2.5. come on, then i went out, a month later in 2009, eugene was released and came to the village of semidomka. amur region sheltered a man
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relatives of his friend. they are good people. compared to my parents. came here today too . hello lena hello, dear studio elena, how did you decide to let in your house an unfamiliar, and indeed a complete stranger. well it so happened that he and my son served time together. well, i think that the son did not send a bad person and it turned out that my youngest son was to be taken into the army. he tells us, well, there are good boys, get yourself an assistant. and so he showed himself in general. on the positive side of the house, you need to block it. he will go for the fence, something needs to be done in the yard. it will make him not even have to speak. he came to
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look, there he turns the sockets, something is there, everything is here, everything is boiling in his hands, and he pays you for accommodation. of course not, evgeny let's see how you live with elena now 35-year-old evgeny pavlenko has been living in the village of seven dopka in the amur region for 13 years since he returned from places not so remote, a man settled in the house of local resident elena podkova and immediately i proved to the hostess that his hands were golden zamors that it’s all worth it. my hands have now done all the men’s work on evgeny’s shoulders and repair the stove and chop firewood and with the garden. we plant a house and potatoes and our own carrots and dill, but this only the beginning says yevgeny planov to acquire a household and turn the woodshed into a pen for animals, or he can put rabbits to cook most often in the house. elena however, her. the neighbor
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also excelled in culinary skills. eugene is recognized after the orphanage and prison. for a long time i got used to elena's kindness and hospitality. thank you, of course, people. if only now i don’t know where nadezhda is. but without elena, evgeny would really be gone. you are grateful. you know, i would like to. well, i don’t know on behalf of, probably, many moms, but it’s just here is a low bow to elena, after all, the boy is getting out of prison. it is not known what is there and how can you do it, what could be expected, but she accepted it. thank you very much that evgeny seemed to have a mother who was not afraid that he would want to bring her to you. no, i wasn't afraid. after the first
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call. i had to not talk about this for a whole week. well, i convinced him that the meeting should take place. wait, you wanted to invite hope to live with you. i even talked to my boys, but they they did not support, to be honest, you are interested to know how they are where nadezhda lives now yes, of course, let's show you. a man who appears to be the hope of smirnova lives in a social center near moscow, where in addition to her , three more people have already acquired blood. they will master any skin that wants her perception is good, she communicates, but is very little shy about a room with two neighbors. each has its own bed and bedside table, in addition to this, she was provided with a new stroller. i now have a new stroller; everyone
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living in the center chooses a job they like. she would have preferred knitting to new stands, now she also makes scarves for orphans, it turns out, of course, she didn’t know how to do it a little, because the handles have not yet been developed. but this is a good training for the development, motor skills. after work, lunch time is again wider, butter and even a cake for dessert, and then a walk in the social center is a must. their timetable to the yard of our invalids, who helped sergey but, if it suddenly turns out that hope is not hope at all. and in general, not the one for whom she claims to be from the shelter, there is no such task for us the task is to pick up a person from the street, they don’t have documents on the street, and we still can’t understand hope or she has a dna test with evgeny. do you
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think it will help to sort out this issue faster with an evidence base? yes, i would like to ask evgeny, if they are mother and son, to come, then to the court and give their testimony, that is, to say that yes, this woman, indeed my mother, gena underwent an examination yes, we applied for a genetic examination to the most reliable source in the dna program, i invite an expert to our studio forensic medicine candidate of medical sciences yuri is a genetic examination was carried out between the alleged mother and son, who did not see
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each other for 29 years yevgeny pavlenko recalls when he was only seven years old, his mother threw him at his father and disappeared in an unknown direction after 4 years, his father was deprived of parental right and evgeny ended up in an orphanage, where he lived until his adulthood, already in adulthood, evgeny tried to find out something about the fate of his mother, but he never managed to do it, however, today he first met with hope, which eugene is sure is her son. but the woman does not have any documents confirming that she is the very smirnova nadezhda that evgeny has been looking for all these years
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evgeny what do you think nadezhda is your biological mother? honestly, i do not know. hope this is your son? attention, i'm opening the envelope. alleged son evgeny pavlenko alleged mother of a woman who calls herself nadezhda smirnova the likelihood that evgeny is now next to you in your biological mother, who i cut you out of my life 29 years ago. is 99.9 percent i
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doubted now. it will be good.
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no, to be honest, i did not expect, i think you deserve a separate applause. this is an incredible act of male human this is an example of generosity. it 's amazing. you will always be next to your mother now. i have to decide now. i have housing now , people will help me. yes, yes, i will take it. and no matter how good everything will be, help, true, of course, i think that on our part it is necessary to do, in general, everything possible so that this family reunited, a in order to restore the documents to nadezhda, so that yevgeny could establish custody of his incapacitated mother. yes, all obvious reasons, and we will help. yes that's up to us.
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whether to hear hopes after 29 years of evil, which will turn your whole life upside down, you want a miracle, we will find out in a couple of minutes the wife left her husband for her lover, taking four sons, the abandoned husband decided to check if these were his children. i want to know the truth, who is really my child, because i found my wife in bed with my wife's love. and vova here he was on the bed about the undressed third son, the wife herself called the other, said that the third son, most likely not mine, and even showed me a photograph of the supposed, and the second son was born. after the wife walked at night and returned home, they saw her in a cafe in the company of girlfriends and young people. there is no doubt the man is only older in the first child. i'm sure the elder yegor is not his child. so how many relatives by blood are the children of a father with many children. i am shocked that i lived
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she had a son, eugene. nine years old. i don't have a mother and never had one. after much deliberation , eugene nevertheless decided to meet her face to face. is she really his mother, the man agreed to a dna test, the probability that eugene is now next to you in your biological mass, which 29 years ago deleted you from her life, is 99.9%. i understand, so svetlana, that nadezhda’s documents will now be much easier to restore using a student test, indeed a dna test will serve, but very good evidentiary evidence base in the civil process, but separately i would like to say a huge thank you to you and the beyond the boundary program , if not for you, i just clearly understand this
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now, but this meeting just didn’t work out for you and many thanks to evgeny what kind of him in general a huge warm heart today on this program, i was almost sure, well, with a probability of 90%, and that eugene would not accept his mother and would not even want to communicate with her. well, you know, the fact is that the longing for the mother of each of us is endless, when a child at such an early age, well, mom leaves. when you know, such a shock trauma, when the child’s psyche decides that i’m bad, they don’t like me, they abandoned me, and when elena accepted him, she gave him motherly love, if this hadn’t happened, i can to say absolutely exactly, otherwise evgeny would most likely roll down the slope, but elena helped him with her love. that is, he felt what mother's love is, that he is
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far from being bad. marina who would have thought that thanks to olga, who saved hope from slavery. she again hope will find a son. this is incomprehensible to the mind - this is some kind of miracle, you know, 29 years old. we are the complex of the most terrible life, and have hope and respect. and now you understand, here and now you have found each other, and i want to wish you further. here, to be sure to find yourself a wife, so that you have grandchildren, that's what i have now is born to wish you. i would like to tell nadezhda that you should not be afraid if your son can really take you to him, do not worry. you will not become a burden in the apartments , just the appropriate supports are installed. now there are a lot of devices for the disabled, which

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