we are ready for digital transformation, like ukrainians, not embarrassed to stage the results of the shelling. take a picture of me, andrey, and with what tales do the listeners lure me into captive mobilized russians? you're not afraid. about this today in our program. hello, this is the meeting place on ntv , the place where everything becomes clear. yadrener my colleague, ivan trushkin, we are working live. well, in a few months. you and i have absolutely got used to the term hybrid war, which, as you know, i don’t really like it, and about that always said, because, it seems to me, he belittles the very meaning of the word war. it goes to the present. yes, another matter, what is being carried out? she herself is not a variety of methods, including high-tech, related to visual technology to information technology. well, the other day

there was a reason to talk about it, what we want to do today. i literally yesterday. in our office there, in the premises, he asked the radio. did he see some strange picture where zelensky writes down some kind of appeal? wires, he is clearly in a television or film studio. here, against the background of this green, such a backdrop, which is called a chroma key, on which you can put anything you want. because you remember some time ago. doubts periodically arose there that zelensky was recording his appeals in the studio and suddenly it all showed. and to be honest, i didn’t understand, i don’t remember what you answered me yesterday. i said that i also saw, but i didn’t delve into it yet, in general, yes, we decided on them. well, there really is a lot of interesting things. let's start with these shots and see. all these videos appeared, behind the scenes of how zelensky is recording the appeal, all hung with wires. it turned out that this is how foreign experts create a hologram of the ukrainian president. to do this, back in june,

film crews from several british companies specializing in computer graphics and creating human three-dimensional models came to kiev, we are starting the motor. even now, when the war is raging, we continue the digital transformation of our state. we need to use technology, the future bombastic speech of the holographic zelensky was shown on june 16 at several european forums at the exhibition of startups and technologies in paris at a technical forum in london and in several other european cities, in addition to life-size zelensky, technologies created a smaller zelensky avatar for smartphones and glasses and virtual reality zelensky for his hologram transformation. for some reason i chose a t-shirt. with the inscription go to the dark side. perhaps it is unusual for presidents or heads of government to use a hologram to speak to people, but this is not our only borrowing from star wars,

just like in the movie we are planning to destroy the empire by many experts. asked a question. let's say this whole high-tech story was made for exhibitions, but it doesn't throw away such expensive developments. this means that the technology could also be used to record zelensky's regular addresses, including during rocket attacks this week. after all, it is not difficult to use his container of the ukrainian president. we are not stop in our development. even now, when the war is going on, we continue the digital transformation of our country and our goal is to make ukraine the most digital power in the world. i didn't see this. i hope he jumped on the last words in well in star wars really holograms - that means what was the first movie you came out in 77 or what? i don’t remember when there, well, remember, yes, such a screen lights up and such a transparent little man, as if appears on some surface and starts

talking there, everyone understands that it’s her hologram and it’s clear to me that, as it were, zelensky has been using the video message method for a long time. i don't understand why they posted it. this is all behind the scenes, because here somehow questions arise. the first question that i had today andrey vladimirovich are you sure that you are not communicating with holograms when you are in touch with kiev. i may be one of the few who have been watching zelensky since the start of his election campaign. so up until january, you don't want to write everything in the life of people's remarks, what's there, well, until january 2022, so i want to tell you that he is just e, he is very real, he is very organic. and he makes great use of the entire media space, he does not need these holograms, because, uh, he has enough other possibilities and, most importantly, he is constantly present in the operational space absolutely, where the presence is in the information

space, where he is physically present . can you here guarantee that he is not somewhere in such and such a place where there is none? well, at least in kiev in other places and in some visits to the front line can guarantee what it was? how do you explain that these shots were thrown out. he, in my opinion, they were clearly not intended . why broad so to speak? we are leaking too. someone has a performer. really. slavia that they made a virtual zelensky and so on and so forth, the problem is that we are not used to seeing such a president. yes, we are accustomed to the president in an expensive capacity. with such watches, which once a month speak at some forums and so on, zelensky has a different strategy. it is the largest once a day on several zelensky e-mails since 2019. this is the concept of constant daily presence. it is practically being realized, you know, and this is where

his strength is now, because he keeps the attention on himself, not only inside ukraine but also in the world, these people asked this question, which i wanted to say, andrey vladimirovich, will the publication of this faith in that that the president is real and it seems the tsar is not a real project, alexandra you said something not a fact, yes, well, first of all, i uh not ready to agree that this is the best strategy. what are the cons. uh, the media strategy is constantly present in the media space, as long as it doesn't matter, the real one is not the real one. uh, because hmm , this is the daily crackling literally every day. she is in the end. they devalue the president's word, it loses. uh, hmm sacrality. yes thank you. maybe they have, on the contrary, that's exactly what tests are required every day. no, uh, psychoanalysis. they are engaged there, when we are talking, here, let's look at us now, here is how it develops an expensive suit there, an expensive watch. here we are accustomed to

such a president who speaks somewhere at the forum. but we periodically have, how shall i put it, such an urgent need to listen to what the president has to say. and they get that every day he buys already once. well, maybe someone has it. see. here, judging by the same way they had fun and on the eighth of october in kiev, it means, here are all these daily blah-blah-blah. they're just so good. i will add. it's just that even our program in in isolation from the first persons, even our program is sometimes made such claims that you explain more, explain more that this is the very place where everything from alekseevsky will come to people, everything will be people need to look. it's good. it 's not bad. so comparing, you understand, comparing our president's strategy. there will never be a headline in the western media, and massively on the front

pages. what zelensky is silent about and sometimes it is better to be silent than to speak. for example, for putin, yes, from time to time this pause becomes a strategy, and it works, because one of the tasks of putin as president. now the warring powers in fact. yes, this is to bring fear and panic into the ranks of the enemy. and this is how it happens. i am actually a people, while my own people. there are people who have been delegated powers in an obvious way. we can list them. well, let's say five people, so that they can be spoken by the people, and they are perceived as words, it turns out so on, what is better our uh, the version is rare well, weighty, yes, not like a mark, but right here or daily small ports. that is, you think that in your very question, andrey vladimirovich, the answers are for me

to personally understand, but here, vladimir viktorovich, look at the sacralization of power - this is still our trick. now, it doesn't matter if it's good or bad? ah, but this is, uh, what political technologists work with, this is the image that they create with us and from which to retreat. uh, now they can't physically. i just don't remember on uh, let me remind you of our recent history. we had one man who tried to be his boyfriend for the citizens the russian federation, this dmitry anatolyevich medvedev, when he became president, he went to twitter , he began to actively use all media technologies. that's how the ecumenical does it now. yes, it seems to me that he is now not to this. i say the attempt was his attempt to see him off with a hashtag. pathetic. these are these how is it mallards to see off mallards, because

for them he stopped by. nothing even a popular character every day about him a new anecdote appears losses, trying to drag medvedev away from the missile control panel there, that's it, that's it now he's gone to jokes. it's true, no one knows where he's broadcasting from, but all the time he accompanies everything that happens with these media shots. this is a different image. this is not an image of her boyfriend. here zelensky is playing in another clearing with power in ukraine. for a long time already, where it is saralized there, the president is treated like some kind of supreme figure, because if you go further east to central asia, there is even more sacralization and you can reach such a rank-un where, well, it’s just that you can get there, for example yea king thailand for insults. well, in north korea they won’t ask, and even in the east? i say, and not so and so, that is, what is good and not bad.

it just sort of happened, yes, what works for them is oriented towards western society, what works for us is oriented towards our society towards the soviet nationality of the president. it's just that someone is a real president, and someone is a western avatar who can make him anyone. today he is a dragon. tomorrow the bunny is the day after tomorrow. zhabka just zelensky is just the staff would take it in turns today, please. okay, vitaliy andreevich add something pressure, you know, well, it's hard to compare our system, yes, and the ukrainian system. well, does zelensky have the fullness of power that the president of ukraine should have well, of course not, so the hollywood team comes and starts to make him the one who was chosen by washington, today they need you know this type of iron man, who will inspire western teenagers with a funny t-shirt . i don't know any will victory and escape, and that ukraine needs to be fed for another 100,500 years. that's all, and about well , you know. here is the american process, what is it built on? it is built on a picture, and our process is

always built on content. therefore, it is fundamentally wrong to compare these two different schools, the question is whether zelensky will be popular with the older generation, or with people who make decisions today, or whether he will be popular with people. who are at the front. no, of course, he will be popular with western technologies, which are probably already his are considering how the future actor of their series is actors, let's then. you can show us, because we 'll go for the last 6 months. this film was often remembered. this is a film. uh, tail wagging dogs 25 years ago. it was filmed there, if you remember, yes, the single hoffman is a team of american political strategists who solve some of their absolute american tasks, which then ended badly. well, nevertheless, it’s very, how correctly yes, solves american tasks, in fact, inventing medina such a war, it’s not clear where for the american voter, all this is organized with the help of the then very high unforeseen technologies. let's look at a piece and compare with today. good on the

back flank. what about screams, great idea? add some screams. add his sirens. what else is a siren, like during the war, and not frank is excellent. find such sirens blood runs cold alive well. i just have goosebumps. find the sirens that he wants white. he wants white. we have a white kitten, he needs a white kitten. thanks

when everything is mounted in 4-5 hours. we rarely see footage like this. is n't it amazing how they screwed everything up. and this is only the beginning of 25 years have passed since the film was made, the technologies that are here, in general, described are now successfully used in ukraine , what is there, i'm sorry that i'm 5 climbing. in the same place, the occasion was quite peaceful there, the president of the country, as clinton was pierced in communication. eh, not good, as it were okay with a girl. it was necessary to distract

came up with this albanian war. and now it's like reason is completely different. this other does not use. that's it, let's get the material. let's see, european newspapers came out with horrifying photographs, and the bloody victims of shelling in kiev, strikes on critical infrastructure of the western mussel , were presented as shelling of civilians, but in the yard of the 21st century. and you can’t hide another video anywhere, where you can see how the victim poses for a photographer and cameraman and asks in a completely ordinary voice to be clicked on her own mobile phone, and then it becomes clear that this is all staged. that there is a story that almost exactly repeats the events of the first days of the special operation on february 25, a photo of a bloody woman, supposedly seriously injured due to shelling in chuguev, spread around all european publications, then

many users doubted the authenticity of these pictures. the blood on the face and hands was too unnatural, and the bandage on the head was completely clean. then, by chance , a couple of photographers working with foreign publications turned out to be next to the victim. this is us. i'm already working on us using the methods of the 20th century. it’s like this, well, judge for yourself in the conditions of the information war, which is said, and after 2-3 days most people will already forget, and any information that appears in this way, and in this case, they continue to bombard with a constant information shaft. that is, if you can compare it with a barrage of fire, then they bombard constantly and they do not stop. please note that just really media technologies, which are already enough

worked out. they are used actively boldly decisively and en masse. i can say that as soon as the special military operation in ukraine began, most of the online producers and videographers who had previously worked in the format of promotion of various kinds. online schools have retrained precisely in combat. these are the bloggers and fighting youtubers who continue to churn out these fake technologies, well-known technologies, understandable technologies, clear white, kitten. why white because he should stand out from the crowd? here it is black and definitely needed, an attractive detail that will simultaneously carry a semantic load, a kitten, an innocent white pure girl saving a black kitten. it is unknown who the albanian girl is, the albanian girl saving the white

kitten. it is indeed a symbol of innocence , a symbol, a symbol of childhood. and from this point of view, the constant use of these technologies here gives the effect of a constant, mixture of emotions. the girl should cause tenderness and the kitten should evoke emotion, but against the backdrop of a hot village against the backdrop of sirens. it evokes at the same time a feeling of powerlessness why because i understood? uh-huh, why then does the exposure not work, because now we will show many episodes now, after a while it becomes clear. i see everything yes exposure. can match the kickstand it 's not true, but it doesn't work. why when they work, because exposure is a defense , it is already a reflexive response to actions from the other side. that is, it is not an advance. this really. we are constantly in the position of

making excuses to expose and trying to somehow restore justice. and this is in the media space. sorry why does this work? because, conditionally, there are people who create this shaft once, twice, five times, it was exposed that it was all fake from beginning to end, that this was a decree? and that why why trust to this shaft does not decrease. here, it's just that when i see this shaft spreading, i see how he deceived me, many, many times. i am i stop believing this source, because three days is what people forget. that is, today, no one remembers what i refute. or it doesn’t come at all, let’s maxim. i think that in general, zelensky is doing the right thing in a hologram, turning what i am short of the hour when he will have to really put a real hologram to hide from the wrath of the ukrainian people, who will understand all this lies. that's how i'm not very people understand.

i won't go into all this anymore. i am also at the beginning of a special operation. thought so, well we yield. we're not doing very well. there's cnn there's a bbc picture of six cameras in today's is convincing, but my personal communication with many people in europe shows something gradually the trend begins to change people who at the beginning said, yes, putin's killers attacked, well, ukraine which you saw refugees who see how ukraine is bombing. the peaceful game is gradually beginning to see this trend, not decisive but it is, the second. i can't understand why we are so convinced that we lost in the information war, at least, because we always succeed. as if the truth tells the defense, it's too early. if you say go out, in a sleepy war - these are not pictures, and those and technologies of the complexity of their results. we have a president rating rather big johnson dredge. ubayd flew out to a very low rating for the macron, the problem of the embassy of the problem. i

think you don’t understand, but they have them, they all have problems, because putin is the darkest teranga. almost no one believes. they believe this very well, because their study grew up for putin and that's it. the rest is there because of putin, so we have time. let's. we will show. here are some rather high-profile episodes on mondays, according to which even the western press has already come out with a refutation. some even apologized. it 's really something out of the ordinary. outgoing. well, that's right, the troops have already forgotten everything, and actually, the reason was originally. what is being refuted here? i don't remember what it was? last week, the german publication bild exposed another fake atrocities of the russian military, which in ukraine called orcs, the ukrainian ministry of defense claimed that the russians staged a mini auschwitz in the kharkov region, allegedly these orcs of a generation of civilians pulled out their gold teeth and buried them alive. as evidence

, a snapshot of a gas mask and a box with gold crowns, however, german journalists quickly found out that the teeth found belong to the non-fiendish tortured, and to the patients of a local dentist. actually. these are the teeth of dead people. god save them from the people i have treated over the years years. i removed those teeth because they were bad for 30 years. i have removed tens of thousands of teeth. this is only a part of them, another epoch-making fairy, which was actively replicated in september about bodies allegedly found in the raisin area here. in our komi , this version was promoted by a personal delon, but western journalists who visited raisins. they fought that it was all nonsense, in particular, daily telegraph reporters stated that they had not seen any evidence of mass executions of arrests or torture, and the german newspaper frankfurter runshaw officially brought apologies for the fake news about the dead bodies of pike perches this week, ukrainian telegram channels were spinning a fake about the

strategic american bi-2 bomber that arrived in poland, capable of carrying 16 cruise missiles with nuclear warheads, saying that the plane is needed to fight for russia in the western press. all this hastened to refute in order to check this video. we split the clip into separate frames. something like screenshots, then we used to reverse image search and found a mirror image of the same frame of the video that smith posted on youtube in april 2020 in the caption to this video it says that the bomber landed at the british military air base ford and not in poland but definitely the laurels are the main one. the clock of ukraine remains with lyudmila denisova, when she was in office, the commissioner for human rights regularly listened to her nonsense about the atrocities of russian soldiers who raped both babies and men in the west, when it was revealed that all this nonsense denisov was driven from his post and now last week. she told the russian pranksters. what kind

fakes did not have time to voice, and you can write that there is a prison. at the zaporizhzhya res it is necessary that official sources give this. doesn't want to give it. it's because he's not prosecuted for human rights. he writes only what he is told at the president's office, so we have now decided in this way. so this is what the authorities ask me, well, intelligence, that is, it turns out. this is such an absurd situation, as if the situation was poured over you with shit. naturally , you have to wash it all off somehow. and if you then say something after that, look what occurred. well, in general, yes. you get, as it were, well, okay, shit was poured on you unpleasantly, so you are now trying to justify yourself. you make excuses looking weak. that is, it turns out

that we cannot simply a priori win this information war. yes, i can say what is happening now, uh, around zelensky and ukraine, this is a kind of digital chimera, here is a digital twin. why are there ours, for example, the president or the western president, they make a digital copy of themselves, everything is simple. it's just that now e zelensky can will rule britain or america and uh, placing them in different locations and making him talk. what they want, uh, western, but the country did not make a mistake. well, yes, he already made a fine once , when there was a statement about the crimean bridge . then they played back. now this won't work. already before him, everything was sold, the second situation is what happens with fakes. but just due to this digital twin, people will find confirmation. why zelensky is not real, for example, is in kiev or god forbid there bayraktars that fly out from behind him or explosions that are 100 meters from him. here are the fakes. there is also such a media story that when the western media shoot a fake, they also shoot

antifreak. well, that means it’s like an investigation, and then this anti-freak is resold to other western media in order to make money on the second round and thereby justify it once, and this is the media on the other hand, that they are like a conspiracy theory. it looks like this is not a theory of the sign, this is quite normal work of the western media and now the next stages are there will be comedy shows just uh, mr. zelensky , what we saw today on the toilet bowl will laugh, it will be possible to somehow win the information war or not, because you are always, firstly, the information war catches up on a very large number of fronts. so you see, when we talk about the rebuttals that we've seen here, they're perfectly effective and work well for our audience. whether they work for an audience in ukraine , they are not sure if they work for western europe i’m sure, because there is just in many ways a game of ping-pong is going on, that is, an information

refutation is being thrown in, an addition and the topic is already becoming almost canonical, you understand, that is, there is another game, if we are talking about zelensky himself, then in this case, for the part ukrainians, and very significant. i also have friends. he still remains not president zelensky, he remains in vasya goloborodko a teacher who accidentally became president as a result of the film servant of the people , you know, which were then and remember there too after all, there was an episode where he had. uh, big difficulties with russia and in many ways he continues to play this we are there a lot of ladies. they still perceive him in ukraine, what kind of character? and for them it is clear that for the crazy story this series continues in the countries. if you saw it, then it’s only a trailer for 2-3 minutes, and in western countries they continue to perceive it, how many revelations do we not make? how much truth we do not present. it really doesn't interest anyone. we continue to walk around spat on. you you understand, what's the point here is the question that we

present the truth from official tv channels. here , just a second. we have completely different logics of media struggle. we believe that the most authoritative channel is the official one. and excuse me, the new generation that has grown up in the 21st century. they believe that the authorities always hide everything. the only thing you can get is the truth. well it's through, uh, exposure on youtube through other online games and saying yes, we need to hire 200 of some mid-range american bloggers, through through which we can refute all this. yes, no, yes, it will be more effective. do you consider the physical channel of unofficial poking channels, each with its own target audience of a different caliber. they are effective, you will still answer, of course, yes, you will still take a step after, of course, what's the difference? we'll still be walking. here is a conceptual question

. the fact is that our information and propaganda system is not prepared for wartime conditions, because here we really have, relatively speaking, kanashenkov is zakharovo and all and all hundreds of military commanders of ukraine there are not so many battleships on the line of contact, you understand? russia has ten hundred times more battleships than ukraine, but what are you talking about, only the russian public and all russian people and everything, of course, the main source of information in many respects for ukraine is ours that when something happens, we don’t we can react immediately we are waiting for an indication from above, how does the reaction take the quantity. you do have informed sources in kiev let's think logically here. how many in relation to the russian military commissars of ukraine in kiev now you already know that we have dozens of times more medics. i understand that every

person is on the front line. they, having a smartphone , become the military commander of every network hamster, just took this video and remanufactured it in their own way by the broadcaster. and that's it. i'll give you one example more than that, we ourselves wait, you understand, i'm filming you. he is not a non-medical pr person. it gives a more or less picture, mind our propaganda often uses these materials more. better than the ukrainian liza zapadnaya is a fact , just take a closer look and see, this is not like a sectoral inhabitant, because again you are now talking about our propaganda channels, based on your narrow sector, where are you present on the sites if we now interview other age groups they will have a different opinion . you mixed what works for us. yes, this is one. and what works outside, it's different with all due respect to our military officers. they don't work outside maybe i'll read it. then you can bully me and so on. you can just say one phrase right here and you

guess who said it, we are losing in the information battle, because they are not fighting actively enough to conquer territory. it is necessary to win the minds of the people from the russians and the chinese. this is very good. it turns out. we don't have rashades or satellites. and now experts in propaganda. tell me who said that just recently. yes, it doesn't matter. it said what kind of illness. well, what an old fact, but he admitted it. yes, the problem. so, andrew apparently he hasn’t turned on the tv for a long time, an old fascist, because the artist, listen very strange, which he says is not there, but you understand different sources of information, this is not a platform, please. stop being nervous. this means that the problem lies in the fact that for probably 30 years we have not been able to form within our own country this correct information contact between the authorities and society, therefore, of course, we have certain distrust, the paradoxical situation

is that we have a huge trust the president. and then all this nonsense begins. this is what we have here from time to time . almost a fight, this is the last time when e, you and i already thought that the sidorchik would go for a day hoping to be a muzzle. why is nadezhdin talking? yes , no one supports, e special operations, and i have a survey. and he actually sent me this question. i just tried to explain to him there that it’s like in your circle what you are saying, so we ask him then he was on the air. i say, i saw this poll. i say boris borisovich and who conducts it? he says, i'm here i spend in this, spend it. i just have one answer when you already kick nadezhda out of the studio. i get asked this every time. better yet, kick him out with kicks under for that is, it all depends on the scale. it all depends on the fact that we have several information segments and people,

depending on their own, are there, i don’t know any political preferences, they sit exclusively in these segments. uh-huh and they are more here boris borisovich is sitting in himself correctly his religion the bubbles are absolutely packed. the problem is to destroy these sandboxes so that people can get all the information from us, or then it is necessary, on the contrary, to fill it all up so that there is no information at all, so that there is censorship, here the second third option is a technical fence. yeah, i'm a little perpendicular, but on the same topic we are still talking not about our information space, but about the possibility of influencing outside. i have spoken about this many times. now finally. i got the obvious an argument that none of you can argue with. well wait you say many times that the world's most powerful pro-funded information companies end here on earth. you've been flying into a concrete wall since march since

march, many millions of people of ukraine have been trying to convince people of arrestovich. zhdanov and all the rest, that the russians had run out of missiles, and they all believed in it, and this week even reznikov counted them to come up with, and somewhere the information company of our rocket. this week they blew up the ukrainian propaganda more than all of ours do not pay alexandrovich, you are not convincing the mirror at this moment. that's right. well let's take one hard example. so you remember the recent one, we will not talk again about tracking the exchange of prisoners. yes, thank god, they returned ours. yes, among those who were found there are our pilots. yes, and at the same time, even now, the defense has not given even once in 7 months information about crashed planes, but downed helicopters. that is, it turns out in the forest, or what? for the front line was taken away either

behind or in the dining room for a meal. here are such blunders you understand this is the position that was voiced in official reports, this was never discussed, but at the same time, from the first day i can name large telegram channels with millions of people, where from the first day they write about crashed planes and problems. it's not official, you know? zero people ask why on the official? crimea don't say anything, because this is a taken position. the same, by the way, as the ukrainian position is this question. and this question is on another show. let's break already. yes, now we have gone over a little, we'll continue in a couple of minutes. don't miss the event and people of the week on central television. the range of which matters the west is still hesitant and does not want to give the ukrainian military

missiles that will reach kirov and voronezh but it seems that kiev has found a way to push the nato leadership to a decision that could turn out to be fatal everything that makes this world comfortable and modern, from gas storage facilities to power transmission lines, could turn out to be hit . all these internet, while infrastructure saboteurs do not even hide exactly where they plan to deliver their next strike. heat and light will be released on the cards, while brussels is discussing the price ceiling for russian oil , the price of the energy crisis for europeans is growing every day, how will europe save electricity and gas, and will the coming winter be able to cool hot heads? this will be your central television tomorrow at 19:00. likhach new season today at 20:00 on ntv, the vtb team

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guarantee compliance with the geneva conventions in relation to prisoners of war three meals a day medical care legal support from international organizations communication with relatives through the red cross. the quick possibility of your exchange of employees of the ukrainian armed forces was supported by this idea and the president of the terrorist volodymyr zelensky well, or his hologram several times in his video messages. he urged russian soldiers to surrender young, the only way for them to save lives and return to the people, and so-called intercepts of conversations allegedly between russians and ukrainians began to appear on social networks, and surrendering to films of ukraine well, or parodies of them oh, this is ukraine so listen, tell damn you can give up. yes, return to god you will give birth to us a good man, this armored personnel carrier has already left for you and is leaving. you are sleeping on your

hands and the russian liberals are calling for surrender on the telegram channel of the project of ilya the dyer. he was put on the wanted list and for some reason has not yet been recognized, and on october 7, a publication appeared on the agent with the heading what to advise a person who had already fallen into a war zone. there we read situations of direct collision. stay in the cage, if the vushniks used to post videos where russian foamsters are tortured and mocked in every possible way, then now the trend has changed, they say. look, what a kind and understanding ukrainian army a couple of days ago, a video appeared on the network in which, to the emotional music of a russian soldier , medical assistance is clearly audible in the video . well, if the conditions of a five-star hotel and a comfortable transfer to ukrainian captivity fail to convince russian fighters to hand over their weapons, ukrainian political strategists will launch heavy artillery into battle, and seushniks

with cats, such videos have become a new trend. yuri anatolyevich, we are working on these cats, yes, we are being ironic, of course, they are working about a white and black cat. everything, he said quite seriously, but in theory, yes, the cat should cause emotion, but the fact is that psychologically tougher information is remembered, unlike information that is just positive, and therefore, i don’t think that it will work after just that amount information about how ukrainians acted with russian soldiers in march in april this summer . after that try to go on repaint

change shoes to become good bandera. no, then you, in my opinion, contradict yourself. no, because in your first speech you said that it would be forgotten there anyway in 3 days. and now you're talking about the fact that what was a few months is still not forgotten. explain, for some reason i will explain one living thing. uh, the fact is that uh is just negative information that causes pain, causes empathy and defiance. just bad feelings. she is remembered and a reminder of pnevne for russian it will evoke soldiers, just memories of those soldiers who once surrendered and that they were shot in the legs, shots in the head , and shot on the highway. that is, it will be remembered after the words about captivity. that is, here the associative chain will tighten up, which would seem

to pass positively. if everything goes well, but still. she will call. exactly what, that is, you are saying that a specific individual history will not be remembered, but in general the image is here. ukrainian soldier, who is over some russian being tortured by a soldier in every possible way, he has already been so tightly preserved in his head for six months that you can’t kill everyone with this. he may not be remembered right away, but as soon as it comes to raising hands and from surrendering, this is exactly what will be remembered, that is, there is an associative series here. here. here the anchors will be remembered precisely here is the tin that was in march april several episodes on israel on various israeli tv channels on the air of israeli radio stations, when, uh, the remaining still sober- minded jews, uh, invited as guests in these various shows, they began to say that how can we support this current ukrainian government, which is bandera, which did and

goes on listing it, it did it, it did it, it did it, and they also do a lot of things with respect to the jews and, as a rule, the leader in all these cases, well, there now a little bit different situation, there is not necessarily. yeah. that is, it is already in their blood. it should be just a formed image of these nazis, of course, an active right. i absolutely agree, historical memory and operational - these are different things 50 years 70 years have passed since the war, and they are no longer connected with practically anyone living today, but this situation, when we are able to compare ourselves to empathize with the one who was on the frames, she is remembered for 2 seconds in 20 seconds. the sbu is now just in progress now is developing new information packages on this topic especially for russian prisoners who are given the opportunity to participate in special wars

if it has been developing for two months now to develop this is an invitation to surrender this story. from the results of an initially uninformed campaign, but essentially from what is said here, uh, half is perceived as a lie by our military personnel, because all of our military personnel know, in particular, that the red cross does not allow our prisoners of war there is, again, a real story. not one of ours, not one of our prisoners of war was actually given, as they show, to contact their relatives. these are either fake stories. this sex is working, or the same openers are contacting relatives, threatening their violence and the brain emotionally for six months. i know a woman who has been calling for half a year already, in contrast to our history, where, firstly, if the red cross and television shootings and so on and i don’t say,

for a long time. according to my feelings, more than a thousand ukrainian prisoners of war made contact with their relatives with the help of phone. and this is a thousand people in ukraine who spoke with their relatives, knowing that they are alive, healthy, accumulated, live in warmth, that is, this situation on our land, military personnel are aware of this . why did this story change because until yesterday, e is against. uh, contract soldiers fought with the kabandera troops, the cadre army fought , plus a volunteer, it is useless to recognize volunteers as prisoners. they do not surrender , that is, psychologically prepared people. and now, and now, not the ones who are educated get to the front line. yes, here is the difference between a mobilized and a pro-cadre volunteer, armenia, i say, i’ll just say one word of principle. you have to understand everything, volunteers do not need politicians, because this is the highest degree

motivation. unlike those mobilized, they need politicians who will tell and they are waiting. lies get. here is the old tutorial. yes , i'll get that too. that is, when how to work with the mobilized, so that all this does not fall, because one political instructor will not cope as much as possible, the third time we are discussing. how do we proceed and often the recipes that we offer does not look convincing. i think that it’s still not worth doing gray work here, because the information war does not go separately from all the others that make up the war. as you rightly said at the beginning, the west has been at war with us for many years. he did not stop the ninety-first year this war. we stopped it and this handicap. we will not be able to overcome it so quickly, and it is very important because you understand what they have always been strong in. they convinced the same ukrainians that russia is preventing them from living well if now we show on the territory that has become russia that a good

life has begun there. yes, it will be a big bet in the information war, but instruct yourself how some supper lies. every day, people who yes, i don’t know, last year, before the start of our spice, ukrainians believed that we really had concentration camps in crimea, that there was a hologram for the word hologram? please look there, don't come, we let everyone in. look at what life was like in the crimea with you and how delightful they went back and told me, and i will repeat the question about the mobilized. that's just what got me now what got me now mobilized. we must somehow now more information, when they finally got the hand to work separately. how to work, firstly, the political instructor can handle it, firstly, with regard to those mobilized here. uh, from the very beginning, they would call on those who are ready to really go there, because to reforge a person who was somehow forced there by the

belarusians, and there they will already be persuaded. it 's difficult. this means that we are used to this, only we are talking not about 18-year-old boys, but about men, to whom 30- year-old women on the benches explained it is already more difficult to work. they start asking questions, what is coherence is not to run around the field coherence when the team. yes, for each of them mutual but if this team has a weak link, it's a shitty team. it seems to me that they all blew it off. yes, everything is not no, no, no, no andreevich but register further. eh, why is ukraine now so actively appealing to them with calls to surrender, it does this, but in fact, just in case, because the main work is being done with those who have not yet been mobilized and the main work is being done there to make people run away from mobilization. that's where the main, and that's where the russians give up. it's already so ​​just in case, they are actually very flexible and

operate extensively. they launch thousands of information arrows in different directions , one of them may hit the target. they act just like that, we have certain problems with flexibility, because we are pupated and we are proud of this. that's what we have konashenkov, and now he's chopping the truth of the uterus, and all the rest. well, you better shut up because military correspondents are the same that they were proud of, they regularly receive. because the wrong information conveys their circumstances, because there are many of them, so someone is working. and someone can call himself a little topic, just because of this the situation arises. we have fish. we have a number of telegram channels, in addition to our let's now fish from behind around one person. well, it doesn’t turn into a bazaar for the truth, but now we’ll start talking about the military correspondents on the stated topic, you identified the problem of inadequate flexibility. how to decide? here, i'm not

i know how to identify a problem by asking a person. you are all much recognition of the problem of its solution. let's start with this. at least, let's all admit to each other that such a problem exists? we heard the statement that there is no truth, we are fine with that. see that everything is a good result objectively sorted out the situation. again , overkill. and we will have time, i don’t know yet, yes, please, how to deal with this lack of informational flexibility. how to connect yet not mobilize and talk. now you have seen this is just a mirror of the propaganda that we broadcast to ukraine for a long time to mobilize them. the first, second, third of the fifth wave, that is, they just took the same one without really bothering to think. and uh, it's going to come out on us . that is, our guys. i hope that they will run after seeing the whole thing, but in fact, our boys. here's how i totally agree. they saw mr. mamashvili, who, instead of zelensky , would meet them in the trenches and cut off their heads instead of feeding them three times a day. you see, after that, the desire to give up disappears,

because in this case here, i believe that they did not say anything new and no new effective moves. they are here, now pause made the next time a short period. the danger of terrorists from ukraine is the father of a militant who hates the russians and now you are still offended that your eldest son is a murderer from zelensky’s entourage with the blood of our portraits . the son of the punishers of the call, i generally perceived him as the president weak joker and a daughter, who managed to neutralize. dynasties of terrorists in the service of zelensky i repeat once again, for those who understand only russian on

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becomes clear, and we continue, as vladimir said, acknowledging the existence of the problem 50% of its solution. look at the problem that we want to discuss now, it's obviously new. well, last year there were definitely no such conversations, yes, and several months ago. but the closer to the new year , the more they talk about it. but you know, at every concert now, for the last couple of months, they ask me about this. is it appropriate now to have fun and hold some big entertainment events. well, i express my point of view, as, in my opinion, my viewers share it, because there are always messages at the end that yes. thank you. you are right, a positive charge is what is needed now in such a difficult time. well i have something like i wish my concert was there see i'm on stage everything, in general,

everything is chamber, as it were, or locally, but here we are used to holidays of such a global scale. there, a city holiday, a republican holiday, so that everything really is, and she sang and thundered. that's how much this is now. hmm. we need or we can somehow do something a little more modest here, or maybe refuse altogether. let's look at the first material on this topic a few days ago, the head of the ministry of culture. olga beloved said that the authorities of the regions are discussing the replacement of entertainment events with educational officials decided which holidays should be left. and what had to be postponed in time and stopped some expensive and unnecessary now out of place, there are shows related to fireworks and talk to people about what is a little different. let's leave the holiday there, but with a slightly different approach. uh, so the mass event, of course, you

just need. how tactful and how much it really will e in tonality and fits into the mood of people who want to buy a ticket or just come to a place where you used to come on october 10th. krasnoyarsk edinorosy called on the head of the city to optimize budget spending to refuse to invite expensive stars to city events. cancel the budgeted expenses for pr and the purchase of cars, and direct these funds to support bison families. many regions canceled excessive spending without waiting for such letters. so the mayor's office of st. petersburg will not launch fireworks on new year's eve and arrange a large-scale new year's concert. savings on palace square . they promise to use it to buy additional equipment for fighters in the stavropol territory until the end of the year canceled all entertainment events. in the rostov region , they abandoned christmas decorations, they reduced spending on new year's holidays, in chelyabinsk , mass festivities were canceled in kaluga nizhny

novgorod their regions, this does not negate the fact that there will be, uh, there will be christmas trees for children, some festive events for school in kindergartens, we let's keep them all. uh, but such massive fireworks festivities concerts. we are not planning christmas holidays. we have to eat uh, other tasks uh, the funds that were planned to be directed to these activities will be directed, including to uh, providing benefits. e by all mobilized , this is to pay for kindergartens for meals in schools for an extension. yep, extra education. however, while not all subjects of the federation have merged into a single impulse, so in voronezh they still intend to spend almost 65 million rubles on new year's decorations of the city. which has already caused dissatisfaction with the garage. and the authorities of the perm territory are going to build an ice city. almost 30 million rubles. there, as in

tatarstan, they believe that it is not required to deprive citizens, and especially children, of a holiday. new year's holiday is first of all a holiday for our children. why should we deprive them of their joy, we support a special military operation , make great efforts, but life goes on. as i understand it, you are a supporter of such a hard line that all this is not necessary. now. yes e is not necessary and moreover, i believe that it is harmful more in addition, i believe that all sorts of different kinds of corporate parties. it is necessary to ban the administrative level and punish, to drink less, drink less , yes, less. here and now they demonstrated their temper, not always attractive, especially in these difficult times. here are colleagues, in my opinion, the mayor of nizhny novgorod said that children's e, christmas trees, yes, let's save them. let's save them colleagues. he said the same. here, we will save the rest of the trees. here under the ban strictly under the ban under administrative responsibility, only in this way the administrative responsibility

of some organizers, of course, organizers, of course, and you can ask the organization that this is not only not necessary, but it is and the harm lies in the fact that false spiritual values ​​are transmitted through such celebrations, after all the point is not that now they have become harmful, they have always been harmful, it’s just that it’s needed in a different way when it turns out. here always, let's not spend money on, well, some non- obvious things, let's not build an ice slide. he's in the main square of mt. i need to be at all always, not today or tomorrow, but in general , always well, you know, and when it pours, and i won’t draw in the gas stream. and when money is in abundance. well , you can spend on it. well, now something else is enough. i already have less and less of these flows, you offer more modestly. it should be at the level of a ban, like nikolayevich's type, here in this level of modesty is above half a step to the right in step administrative. or is it by no means called a tip-off by those who make the decision

general parcels compared, but not legally limited. this is a question of the budget, that is, where does the region decide how it uses its budget, that is , to allocate less money for this. that's all, in my opinion there is nothing everyone must decide for himself. uh, this conceptualist ran into our studio, so we ban mass events, because we don’t have time for the holidays now, or, as galina mikhailovna suggests, firstly, more modestly, and secondly, so that the regions themselves somehow determine their budget opportunities in everything should be measure. it shouldn't be right. uh, so the guests of the meeting place program should, of course, arrive a couple of minutes before the start, and not fall out when we already mean returning to the topic. oh, how i no one sensible no does not call for everything to be canceled. why did you just get offended? it's on the left. i don't

want to. about what most people talk about when they are surprised at huge expenses. i'm talking about the majority here. eh, why do i say this, because i communicate with people, because i also wrote a lot about this in my telegram channel and i see responses to this, no one is talking about canceling the children's christmas tree, no one is talking about canceling any events that are associated with it, again, with children, you can immediately. yes, look, and nikolai vladimirovich said, and galina mikhailovna said, there is no need to exchange christmas trees, but after the christmas tree, the child leaves the palace of culture, where he watched the performance, goes to the square where the town stands, ice slides, where the figures are, and here already says mikhailovich, don’t need these slides, so once again you explain to me then we are talking about volume, and why, in fact, this whole topic began, because it is declared to be a multi-million dollar one. ah, public procurement, well, for example, but in st. petersburg before

canceling, a said that 600 million 600 million rubles should be spent. 600 on new year's eve and that's 120 million ue, more than last year? come on, excuse me, i was in st. petersburg last year, uh, it happened several times, so i got to the beginning, how to say the design, which was much later than in moscow and then was already at the end, when all this was filmed , but removed much earlier than in moscow but i must say that compared to moscow, this is all the illumination in st. petersburg, but it was very, very, you know, you will see that a is about the same christmas trees in completely different amounts. eh, strictly speaking, you buy the truth, and in st. petersburg they canceled it in chelyabinsk here. i don’t know if they canceled it or not, they planned 400 million there, chelyabinsk means in voronezh, where just some mass signed the petition. oda asked, please cancel

65 million rubles for the new year tree. now it’s like this, but you understand, a the question is not about the warrior not holding christmas trees, or that you don’t need to spend crazy money on this one. secondly, there is no need to hold corporate parties if they are planned, and the third thing is not only a corporate event. yes, why can’t you hold a corporate party when this business is very important corporate parties at your own expense for god’s sake, but again, you need to have it, because it must be done modestly, understand that you are celebrating here, and someone may have a funeral in a neighboring house and finally, the third. what else did i lead the business to, not only in spending on the new year. if you look at us continues to buy luxury cars from us continues to buy elite phones at the expense of the year bill from us continues to announce contests. it's just a lot of millions for repairs for the purchase of

multimedia equipment there, if you get into it, there's just a pipets and there is, so i also wrote and spoke about this. this is a test in general for political adequacy, because there are only regions, without waiting for any command, and only leaders. this is understood, canceled and redirected to where it is needed, other regions are waiting until the last moment, and some do nothing at all do. you understand that this is again a situation that clutched at some replica of anton valevich by the head, sat upright. he punched himself in the forehead with his fist, what's wrong? well, i've heard enough. i am horrified. i’ll just remind you that 2020, you know, how many sunny e days were in the winter of 2020 in moscow, there are always few of them, of course, 72 hours. now, uh, well, vasya has spoons. eh, the picture is not the time to smile. yes, now you are offering exactly. this is not the time to smile that there are cats again , some serious men there. serious men call it that. yes, he has it

, along with seals, too, such characters are present, you suggest that this is even in a directive order. here you see corporate parties to ban holidays slides above uh, do not build three meters, because everything above 3 meters is already wastefulness, listen. i believe that the local authorities are not idiots. and this feeling, like in an anthill, happens when you don’t know what is happening, but you see that something is happening, because some kind of fuss begins. we all live in such a big anthill, and therefore we don’t some additional directives are needed on how to celebrate how to celebrate. what gifts to give? what not to give life something? there are two components here, one such hmm state, but about the correct spending of the budget. it can be raised any day. this question here is why money is spent on some sort of optional things and or packaging yes, and the second one is moral and ethical, this is about how you

will celebrate, when you know she came to the next house, i liked the rostov region. she is in something like that. here is the golden mean. they said we're going to celebrate, of course, but we're not going to spend a dime this year on a new new garland on new trees and just a total ban on all these on all this crap. this has its own logic, that is , these purchases will make alekseinovich a holiday for people every year. well, it's just yes, it seems to me that we are, as it were, really everything in e within the framework of one issue. we put everything together. ah, purposeful. uh, there's the planned spending budget. this is one story. of course it is necessary make sure that there are no kickbacks, so that the trees for billions there are not bought, but this this refers to the holiday. no, absolutely right. and he says that every day you need to follow this, you need to, as for the orgy, but it’s also strange, but the truth is, everyone, everyone will support him on the channel. as such, well, not bad, huh? there are people here who don't

understand. why, on the one hand, i will say one thing, people do not understand. why, on the one hand, a conditional governor announces a fee to citizens, and on the other hand, they are spent. there are just hundreds of millions. we again, i don’t understand, we are falling into history, which is completely incomprehensible in the information environment. we know that this year since january, and the budget surplus. uh, the budget is one and a half trillion rubles. and-and due to the first months, it has already gone from january in terms of mass. and now it will also maintain a surplus, not so big in the first months. this means that the budget of the army of the ministry of defense is 3.5 trillion rubles a year, but questions arise, as it were, when people collect money, why do people collect money, and shoes, and for armament for uniforms for equipment in question really arise answers to them. no , we must then say, if we have problems with the armed forces, we must admit, if we have them, then really, let's cancel. if we

have heard what the deputy minister of defense is saying, we will tell the army everything. yes, in the army everything is not enough is not necessary. uh, no help then. and what, in fact, we, but the people do not have enough positive, of course, not enough, and the holidays consolidate, of course, consolidate society, then i liked, by the way, the position of the beloved and the minister of culture, who says, well, you can reformat both propaganda and, as it were , the informational component of the holidays. maybe u work these holidays. we just made stories for the benefit of the state of a colleague, just about e, money, and about these fees and about how to relate in general from a moral point of view. maybe we will now stop blocking leningrad to throw out yourself, you will say, too, the celebration took place. let 's pause now, and then when that's what you want for each of these two, uh, factors and let's talk. the update has come, you can

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is limited. this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. we continue. with us , thanks to alexey gennadievich timofeev, everything somehow mixed up in one heap in the previous part. let's do it the other way around, no-no, he designated it to decompose. now, if this is a citywide celebration, then here is the correct rational anton valevich's proposal that new money this year should not be allocated from public procurement to use some old garlands, and so on and so forth. and all that is new is to send for help and every year you put up a living tree like this, well, every year you have to buy a new one this year. how is it then yolka yes, wait, well, no, well, listen, well, you can’t, just like that it’s not worth 60 million, probably not worth it. i don’t know, christmas trees can be put up with what has been preserved in previous years. and i'm sure the warehouses are full. leave no what touches the artificial tree, and then the christmas tree, you just need to

put it up and that's it. once again many years of personal celebrations. let's discuss, but alexey gennadievich mentioned to us that there are all kinds of fees. and this has really become apparent during its own for several months now. we collect all kinds of quadrocopters. drones are some kind of ammunition and now outlined another story, when all kinds of instructions appear, what do the mobilized need to buy for the front, and they do it for their money. let's talk about this problem here. after september 21, the demand for sleeping bags, thermal underwear, comfortable shoes, some medicines, such as hemostatic agents, tourniquets and bandages, all these goods are bought up by mobilized people or their relatives, demand is growing, and prices are rising, as in the largest online sites, such as ozone or wildberries. and the military, according to the news, prices jumped from 10 to 20%, and for some positions the problems were noticed several times in the state duma and asked the prosecutor general's office and the

antimonopolists to sort it out. in fact, now from increased demand associated with partial mobilization, enterprising businessmen make additional profit by cashing in on those who are sent to protect the security of our country, while the state is figuring out a quick way to help , margarita simonyan, rt editor-in-chief, suggested on september 22. she launched a flash mob in her telegram channel, suggesting that rich people who read her choose 100 mobilized and monthly pay immuno that they can afford , the ex-governor has already responded to the call krasnodar territory alexander tkachev, president of the sochi wrestling federation rubin tatulyan, as well as businessman roman rotenberg. wealthy people join and do not be shy, on the one hand, it is not in our tradition to talk about charity, on the other hand. that is why not only wealthy people can help military personnel so little, but anyone who wants

donations collects, for example, the fund everything for the victory there, you can money to send and transfer the necessary goods to supply the unit, you can not only quadrocopters, drones and thermal imagers, but also any uniforms, helmets, bulletproof vests, first aid kits and even tires for cars on the foundation’s website, they write that all this needs to be collected on social networks. now there are a lot of tips on what exactly is needed for the front in sleeping bags , definitely plus tourist rugs. this is all your boys, and the uniform is everything that the army gives you armor . that's all, with regards to the military, this is nothing. there are no our men. we ourselves completed everything in medicine, too, delays, that is, loperamide peroxide hydrogen. i have a lot of harnesses for you, all the harnesses are not enough. here it is necessary to note all this, as they say. councils from the field in the ministry of defense assert that the armed forces are provided with everything necessary for the armed forces. today they have all

the necessary equipment to provide all units and each serviceman in full , both in the areas of the special military operation and in the places of training of mobilized citizens, so initiatives in certain regions would cancel new year's holiday events for children under the pretext considering the support of the armed forces as premature and unnecessary, alexander andreyevich how to relate to such private and rather large collections for the armed forces for the army. but all the same, we have certain events, they are accompanied by some kind of mood of panic. you remember when any any cataclysm is caused by attempts. there to buy buckwheat, sugar, and so on. as a matter of fact, this is completely unnecessary, as far as officials are concerned, returning there to what we discussed, and the fantasies of officials, were accompanied by such absolute such extremes on the one hand, extreme. come on, we will ban everything, but on the other hand, it’s an extreme thing to come up with holidays and, in order to develop the budget of

these holidays, introduce people, when it’s completely, maybe you don’t even need to eat a holiday that is right down to the flesh of our our our society. there new year's day is a victory day, the people are on patriotic holidays. you won't get anywhere there. well, i just arrived from bashkiria celebrated the day of the republic day in which a magnificent monument to the general was opened sheymuratov, and where the fighters who returned from the mtr zone were awarded, so here i can return to your first remark regarding that. what does panic mean, of course, and so on, you compare panic with buckwheat and toilet paper with what i just showed you. no, i'll continue this thought then. i say, i don’t understand, our society, unfortunately, is subject to such a mood, which is warmed up in the media , which causes panic, of course, that we are now faced with security. here now, uh, general garemykin said that we have enough of everything, enough of something, maybe warm clothes or some kind of uniform. uh, there

's up-and-down boots, maybe, but today in a war situation in a special military operation, much more is required there , uh, body armor that is available today. i don't think it matches. they do not meet the requirements of our bulletproof vests that are needed today, so they are forced to buy if you want to fully ensure the cost. groupings 200.000 rub. three in which the very minimum that should be that the ministry of defense offers us today. what is that minimum? i think that this minimum is very meager now, the question is correctly to repeatedly become less alexandrovich, i can, uh, they also somehow fell asleep with me. you got me a little, so the first thing i want to say in the story that we are now showing, but it was not discussed, but some mandatory fees, which some local authorities

announce correctly wan, but it was about the initiative citizens. yes, well, either large public organizations or large public organizations, which is absolutely normal with us, uh, people always responded in difficult times. that's exactly how they helped the front. yes, i won't talk now. it's about sick kids. these are separate these, the second. do you remember that the deputy minister of defense was dismissed from his post quite recently. wow, i don't think it's just that. and the third here were given the facts that different are not not not some. there are dishonest people there. it blows it all up. and on it makes money from everything i conclude. so, then, maybe we should admit that we have such shortcomings in providing yes, then we really introduce all this history quite officially, announce some kind of collection, and help people to do it. we

control this very carefully, so that, first of all , money is stupid. that's what they do. well, listen, well, we know all this very well, let's then. somehow, perhaps, we will try to formalize it, and so on, then it will disappear. here is the first one, would be our part where we spend money when we can spend it more correctly. it will be possible to formalize and somehow do it at the federal level. i'm only with two hands for because the region of discord. i agree that someone did it moderately, someone will ignore it altogether. again, the authorities are different everywhere in that, it has budgetary opportunities and many budgetary circumstances. i will define this motley picture here. well let's be honest in all honesty needs or now our army is additional our civil support financial one hundred percent need. are the mobilized in need and everyone at the private level is faced with this in one way or another. yesterday we gathered a volunteer boy for 25 years who did not serve the call of the heart. now he is heading to the operation area. we buy armor for him and find out

whether you can buy it. sorry on one well-known service for five denominations. yes, she is worth half a million there, or wait from china, but she will come in december, and what is this situation called in russian. well, it's just censorship. well, it's impossible to express here, but i really don't want to fight live. and something must be done with this and it must be done not for the new year, but today and this is the trouble, it really exists, people want to go to the front, but armor for adequate money. they can’t buy, and they see it all perfectly, and here we need to forgive those stalinist measures today and now, because tomorrow it may be too late, because please turn on something to do with our producers. somehow it is necessary to translate some separate sectors more or less. well excuse me for at least paramilitary rails, so that we don’t expect this armor from china in december, but so that it can be produced very quickly in russia. and this applies not only to armor, but margarita simonyan recently wrote about this about the subject of medical supplies. and so on very

difficult for a very long time. this mechanism is bureaucratically moving, we don't have that much time. we need to win faster to keep our people alive and healthy as much as possible. this is a question. in general , well, as it were, yes, the future and so on, therefore, according to about these differences, you know, i also agree with my colleagues. here, you know that human consciousness should be everywhere. yes, you can cancel the band's concert in russia is it possible to cancel this? let's go for now. pass underwear to people from this region. just here thanks. here was the position of the ministry of defense that it is not necessary, uh, everything in the army overlaps. this is the topic of canceling holidays, if we want to do this, firstly, it is 90%, maybe 100%, the duty of the state to complete its army, take care. yes, and we can do all this additionally , you understand, well, you don’t have to. here we have it. we can make money that's the only way to cancel the holiday there, he spoke

exactly the truth, he says exactly to cancel the holidays, and she, uh, in her wording, the necessary word was said there. i need to talk about this, yes. yes, i wrote about this, just a few days ago, when i called on all people with money. i'm talking. you are reading me, well, do not stand aside, because in addition to the necessary, it is necessary to provide, sooner or later, there is more what is needed is what is needed is more than necessary. and when you said just now that, well, there seems to be a budget, there are so many trillion there, but let's be honest, the budget was approved in other conditions, yes, and initially. secondly, the budget. what is the budget, it needs to be done. they are planning so many missiles so many so many so many so many colleagues. our situation is changing so urgently and quickly. well , for example, here was a blow. yes, the same person in charge of the crimean bridge you figure here in the studio did they say how much it could cost? could it be assumed that it was precisely this blow that should be carried out at that particular time and to lay money on it in advance. that is, i'm talking about the fact that you need

to understand that a lot of expenses come out along the way. and not a single war, not a single military is of such a scale, not a single mobilization of such a scale. nowhere in the world has passed only for a statesman. i brought an example. one more time. i'll bring him. excuse me, but the forty-first mentioned stalin forty-first forty-fifth without the help of people, people gave billions of rubles to this money. tank destroyers were literally produced . it's all literal. it's all there, in open pieces. read handed over kilograms. all gold platinum everything that was. and everything was for the front, everything was for victory. i do not want every last ruble to bear, but there are rich people. there are people with no need for money. right now the lobby, so it can say that anton has a budget. support you wholeheartedly. so maybe then this in the telegram should not say not from you. no margarita simonyan, but somehow, so that more people hear with all due respect to the

telegram, i don’t know if it was some kind of state position that the budget is slowly turning and turning and changing well. now it is necessary so simply on the one hand. we hear from you, there and from margarita that let's help on the other side, we hear from government sources. we still have everything right. well, let's all together, then we'll say, how and with what. can help you tell what the problem is. yes, in fairness , for the sake of justice. and when the governors announce these fees are, by and large, the recognition of the state, because the governors have to survive the officials of the region later, that these problems are another matter, but recently. the corresponding government decree, by the way, is signed so that the regions have the right to spend their money on these purposes, which are connected with colleagues not only about ammunition, but about some kind of armor or something else we are talking about the fact that there are families of these mobilized people, that they need help. after all, we have regions, and you saw this news, who couldn't. well, now, probably, this issue will be

resolved or it has already been decided that they could not even make these lump-sum payments, because they do not have this money, well, in the budgets, that is, different budgetary support. that is, it is a large complex and complex issues. it's all the way i mostly agree with you, but i already said it's on the radio, for example, yes, that when i see how ramzan kadyrov sends the chechen guys, but he also takes pride on the one hand, so to speak, like do they look like? what barbergs? yes, like terminators off their feet packed to the head, they don’t need anything at all, thermal imagers quadrocopters don’t need anything at all. uh, scopes and stuff don't talk about equipment and uniforms. but ah, and all other regions. yes, and here it becomes a little ashamed. and why do some regions say so? they cannot afford to provide, but mobilized, and on the other hand, we see such a good example, but the only thing that is also judged by one video. here's the one we didn't see. and if i don’t really

understand the claim of galina mikhailovna who, uh, sits and hints at the fact that he is chechnya federal budget, what it is that he collects for money, so aleksey gennadievna does not need to arrange it, right away, chechnya very often spends non -budget money. there are no budget backgrounds. there , money grows on trees in a different way, of course, admirers of money, as we know, e allah sends it so he spends it, as he now asks to spend, what kind of claim is chechnya and i don’t understand about the other i want to ask a question. then i want to talk about something else, and there, er, there is no such money. secondly, i have a completely different position. i am i believe that we should not live like the middle ages when a person was going to war. he himself had to buy chain mail for himself, a horse himself, a spear himself, and so on. we have a really huge military budget and really this should be done

by the state, not the lower 90% of the state. where is help? because i will say, won't you speak at the same time as me? ok then. thank you very much, yes, to shift this onto the shoulders of the citizens. this is absolutely useless shifted. so you say that yes, you should, but the situation has developed. understand how it happened. there is no need to separate the army from the people. the same people are fighting there, like, like, like, like you just don’t want the country is it is sent. let's, let's, for example, galina mikhailovna fingers, for example, there is a standard according to the norms, that there is some kind of division. it must be complemented by this this this this this. this is what is called necessary. this really has to do with the state. but this unit in the conditions of today's war requires. yes, other than that. the more drones

the better, the better the armor there, the better again, this is all constantly changing. and we can heart we can say we can help. here now, in the end, this approach of victory is not needed; the last thing is to hide money for the cost of pockets. if there is an opportunity to help, no help, no one is forcing you to systemically still come with problems. khodakovsky , for example, wrote yesterday that, yes, the military suddenly appeared and they say, here we have quadrocopters. and a khodakovsky and where did they come from issued were afraid to go and so on. these are the problems you need to moby respond to respond more quickly to make decisions on the ground, you understand, this whole structure of interpretation. the same ethics are drones. you just don't put it that way. and it was necessary to establish these connections so that they would not poach her, but he didn’t even see anything, or something, or catch his own. let's go here a few

speakers ago, the magic word of formalization sounded, which i am very afraid of. frankly , because i said it. and why , because where the state appears, we are from formalization. this is where the movement ends. well , because there are immediately people who start. well, like foragers in uh, ancient times. here they could provide for themselves. uh, being the rami, that is, this is what the state would like to avoid. you see, so there are state already about the case. this is how the partial mobilization of the state has shown and is showing, it has done its job somewhere about this somewhere. i'm talking about 2022, you can not compare. after that, we filled all our bases with everything necessary for someone, and once again, where is everything. give at least one historical example, when the state is three, because i ask you truthful questions, that they themselves are not a question, so now the only thing in my

opinion. maybe and should do the state is the first to give people the opportunity to take the same initiative in the field, so that they can raise funds. it was legal and their accounts were not blocked, that's all. the rest were precedents further. uh, the state should help not to fit in with formalism, but to help, that is, if there are not enough bulletproof vests, they need to be purchased there in china, they will come to december. well, there are government contacts in order to solve this problem. well, in this sense. uh, this state is not a magician, of course , but to speed up these processes to help those people who collect and promptly purchase. here is the state. maybe volodya but it is. let's talk about one of just different words. now they were talking about dividing by, uh, two, two different factors here. now. let's talk about this orgy on the moral and ethical side for a short period. yellow

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it becomes clear. come on, we'll be back. here again but for the holidays, that is, how appropriate in the current conditions to celebrate some holidays at all. you still have to live until the new year, guys, who cares about the new year here it’s great living, that’s what a planning horizon is, and for weeks , against the backdrop of recent events, there were rumors that this year the blue light will go out not only throughout europe but also on russian television is not even in the fact that the permanent regulars of television screens left to harlequin in israel, those who remained complain that the offer of filming, while did not receive about it. in particular, people's artist of russia lev leshchenko told the creative party in the state duma. they made it clear not the time, popular and fashionable artists in sadness. but what can you do, our country is going through a very difficult time and it will be absolutely wrong to arrange a feast during a special military

operation on pause and private corporate parties, according to the merchant, 2/3 of the company decided to abandon them, they think that restaurateurs are not having fun now. artists. now experiencing what will be without income this year. i had three pre-paid new year's events that, following recent events in the country, ended up with a call freeze for december. not now, in general and not only me, but also the majority of artists, it’s true that there are those who believe that it’s probably not worth it to completely cancel the new year’s lights. patriotic singers should be able to raise the morale of the population on new year ’s eve. the performer shaman has already bypassed kirkorov, a special military operation is underway. our wars liberated part of ukraine from the russian world from neo-fascists, but the struggle continues, the enemy is strong and not destroyed part of the new year's greetings to the best artists should be devoted to this topic. and most importantly, we must see performers from the

liberated territories from new subjects who, together with our stars, would sing patriotic songs for the liberators. michael do not be afraid that on new year's eve. well , like patriotic songs. they will be strange as they look a little, well, firstly, but i’m not afraid of b about the blue lights. we say, this is not the first year. here you are absolutely right that the topic is being raised, that this orgy, as we have already said, must be ended. if now is a reason to end it, let's finish it again i repeat that you will be on new year's eve. here it is on tv . well, the managers will show all the soviet classics. you know, from and to, you know, like this, in 40-43, they started with what to shoot during the war. here you are still walking. let us show and show glory to god and glory god this is an orgy. let's finish the corporate parties. here. i'm just uh, maybe i can explain. explain, please, that there is a certain private organization. she is quite big, she got used to her employees on new year's eve

anyway to gather this kind of event, when everyone communicates with everyone, informal skills drink, maybe, but what's wrong with the fact that everything is bad at the company privately? explain here, if we are in a state of war, we, if you will allow the people. because we have a partial mobilization us a huge number of families practically. well, in every house, in every entrance, there are mobilized people , and in this situation they say that there is some extra money. and we can spend it. we can attract. you just said that even now, er, we will show the soviet classics of the year 43, well, in the 43rd year, for example, and the film was shot at 6 pm after the war. it was a comedy by ivan pyryev, which appeared on screens in 1944. zharovsky's restless household, which came out, was filmed. eh, i think 46. ​​well, so they filmed comedies during the war, so , but it turns out that you are now saying

that this is wrong. here you are the right example, in addition to what you have indicated, two fighters who are in the forty-fifth were also filmed. uh forty. the third year was removed. yes, he came out a little later, and not a local slug starred in children's fairy tales. well, comedies were filmed, remember the ball. i watched a film in a blotting paper. the meeting place cannot be changed. it was all filmed during the war, but they all had a military-patriotic theme. it's all films are all films and fairy tales, too, you also offer fairy tales, fighting spirit. offer the new year to show the place of the corporate party. of course, of course, pick it up. and as for the extra money, we will send it to support. we can go very far in this way, because conditionally we are so then why do we want to now enter private corporate parties. yes? let's go to the check in the apartment and say. why did you buy a bottle of champagne they sent participants. this is still an unfortunate case about a public one, because people are involved there. don't know, i'm here. let's do it anyway. i would like to know, after all, stay away from such idiocy from ukrainians,

because let's still be in the real life that we really are today. i want difficult conditions. we have issued an appeal all for the front for all for victory where the mobilization of the entire economy of the policy of cultural life is indicated, including we have enough. well, here is the cultural mobilization. life you how to see it? i tell your colleague there are so many people of talented directors who are able to direct any new year's a holiday concert in line with requests was recently shown. e, like the greatest concert in my opinion, a mobilizing concert, which was dedicated to the opening of a new restoration of the saurgila. it was me, it was a patriotic holiday, but i say that no one canceled the new year . and the fact that there was a huge salute there is appropriate. now it will be time for the liberation of orel and belgorod, too, was the first salute correctly. you see, it means definitely, it turns out the new year is a holiday that we have passed, which we have up to the flesh of our our people, which we have

passed, we live by this. we will take more from people. but these small holidays that they live and at the front will celebrate the new year. believe me, put up a christmas tree, they will pour 100 g each and will definitely answer, therefore, this is extremely. come on, we'll ban everything. well, it's stupid after all salute uh new year's salute, thanks to the release from different salutes and different meanings, just a reminder about the war films of everything else e don't remember which movie with uh, invited. which film uh, in the cinema only old people go into battle, and here they are at the front they bring a picture, no, i don’t remember the year of the american american 940. this is so it can other things. at the front. a holiday should be a holiday. let's once again just in case, as a certain rule appeared in hollywood after all the

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very yes, as always. it is in any russian federation that a toast is raised to those who are with us no this time, so to speak, you know nothing, you still need to live, of course, everyone does not have rainbow plans now, but it seems to me that all the same, this holiday should be spent with the family circle to try do. this is the most worthy without this one to delete and obscurantism of galina with a family with a christmas tree with gifts of a herring under a fur coat, if she is olivier there antagonizes the size of the situation and two short remarks. i think we need to think about it now. how will the new year go for our military personnel and serious states need to think, and the second moment every year we simply throw out millions of rubles of private money of people money of people fireworks. i have an offer to everyone here is all the money that is planned for fireworks. to find another use for them, a more correct rule, i fully support anton valievich without fireworks, as

far as everything else is concerned, than before. i invent for myself how i celebrate the new year, the more all this does not come true, so december 30 i will make up my mind that the children are waiting for fireworks for the new year, and galina mikhailovna will watch tv, because there will be no bacchanalia, she will not be interested. so instead of meeting. well, we 'll have to rest a bit, but for now we've been discussing, uh , this topic today. uh, there's an urgent message. vladimir putin as you know, at this very moment he is giving a press conference in astana and he was asked a question, including about the course of partial mobilization. so the russian president said that now there are already 22,000 troops mobilized in within two weeks, all mobilization activities will be completed. well, what about me? of course, i also don’t know how i will celebrate the new year. according to the planning horizon, i can say that the ninth is not on the twenty-ninth of october in st. petersburg. i am waiting for you in the decades of dzerzhinsky on november 9 in moscow at the magnus

locus club. i’ll say something else, honestly, you’re starting the new year right. it's not new year's. i’m just saying that i don’t know about the new year, about the concerts , i’ll tell you about the rest, then about the relationship to the holidays. this is what we were arguing about today such. i think it's an interesting dialogue. and what is it so taxed? well, eid al-adha is once a year, sometimes muslims can’t drink. and i'm not a muslim. it was a meeting place that could not be changed. in any case, weekdays 14:00 ntv broadcasts and good luck to you, goodbye. strengthening cooperation in the economic sphere against the

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