right for today that's all i'm marat siddikov thank you for your attention and see you on ntv decision-making centers how poland entered the war in ukraine and why american congressmen abruptly changed their minds to put up with russia support ukraine we support all of europe about this today in our

program. hello, is this the meeting place on ntv , the place where everything becomes clear? i'm andrey norkin . my colleague is ivan trushkin. we are working live today. uh, the topic of our conversation will be this is how i imagine it like this, such a theater, which is around us. ah, our opponents lined up and the population of this theater is going on some very little understood, but it is felt that there are a huge number of participants and directors of this amateur art performance that are not pleasant. well, of course, someone noticed more, that less. we'll take a look at everyone today. well, let's start here at the moment, the most noticeable, and the most active is poland, because its activity is not only there on the border with belarus, but also on the border with our kaliningrad region and in general. well, there is, as it were again, their questions are not getting smaller here is this

picture that you just saw in the announcement, we already showed it to you several programs ago. let me remind you of a column of polish vehicles that is moving towards the belarusian borders. so, let's now talk about the poles near kaliningrad, what are they doing there? on tuesday, the authorities were more distributed to strengthen the military grouping on the border with the kaliningrad region, as well as to begin the construction of a continuous line with sensor cameras and motion sensors in the border zone, the reason was a fake actively, replicated by the polish press that hundreds of immigrants from africa and the middle east are allegedly flocking to this russian region now to storm the polish border. we will have to build up our forces on the border with kaliningrad to build border fortifications similar to those located on the polish belarusian section, the hybrid war involving migrants should not be successful nonsense, and the possible breakthrough into poland of illegal immigrants from kaliningrad was the first to be launched by the journalists of the german scoreboard according to their version . russia allegedly deliberately introduced a

regime of the so-called open skies at the local khrabrovo airport in order to transport refugees to the border with poland with the help of friendly turkish and belarusian companies for centuries and arrange a provocation. in warsaw, this version was eagerly picked up. i'm telling you , this is a prelude to a larger russian operation. the first step is missile terror against ukrainian citizens to start a new wave of migration from ukraine to poland if it is possible to simultaneously initiate a second wave from kaliningrad to poland russia can intensify this pressure under the same fake pretext of protecting against illegal immigrants, warsaw pulled already three of the four large land formations of its army to the belarusian border, this was stated by the minister of defense of belarus viktor khrennin according to evidence. minsk , the polish forces not only conduct continuous aerial reconnaissance, but also arrange provocations, opening fire into the air of human border guards armed with a champion. even if they fly to the side, the

answer will be cruel for them. in parallel, the poles are conducting an accelerated program of rearmament of the country, deciding not to wait for the supply of american missile systems, warsaw urgently purchased a large batch of south korean weapons spending by the most modest estimates. already approaching 30 billion dollars are also in plans to double the size of the polish army to three hundred thousand people. it is sad that instead of healthcare and education we have to spend billions on weapons, but such a reality that our children at school do not have to speak russian. well, and finally, maneuvers began in the zhev area of ​​​​the largest weapons hub in poland. nato codenamed puma reported that the allies are learning to fight in dense urban areas against this background in romania, the border with ukraine, the united states for the first time in 80 years deployed 5,000 infantrymen in an elite division, screaming eagles. their task is to be ready in a matter of hours to turn around on any sector of the front.

the main paradigm, after all, is the participation of the united states troops - this is the protection of the nato countries, they are promoting this paradigm and, but it is not written anywhere that the protection of the nato countries takes place on its own. rather, in the countries themselves, then they can to defend nato countries and to foreign territory he said, from which it might be, but some kind of blow was delivered, but they won’t wait for it to be the american pentagon, they won’t wait for an attack on, uh, on the boards. uh, structures they will deliver some kind of preventive strikes about the delivery of preventive strikes aleksandrovich, we have one with you now before the start of the program. we disagreed a little. he says, let's say, here we will ask aleksandrovich a question, because he has just been here, well, almost from the line contact, and us over the past programs, when it comes to fields. they say that the

poles are not only there near the borders of belarus in the kaliningrad region, through one poles are already fighting there absolutely. so come on, aleksandrovich, there is something to answer about this. and i say, what's the difference? here they are there or not, if we still do not answer, here we have one employee simply wrote, where he attacked. well, look, uh, that means, uh, firstly, about what is happening there in these liberated territories, firstly, very many polish mercenaries are located in the zaporozhye region. e in the city of zaporizhia uh-huh, where is now accelerated e at an accelerated pace. uh, the city is being fortified in the same way as the mariupol outpost. well , actually, zaporozhye is an industrial center. yes, there is a car factory. in general, the notorious zaz and the city make a powerful fortified area and do it. here in the first place. as times there polish. well, i will not say experts, there are a lot of them. well, there's also the british speech absolutely. uh, foreign sounds

there, so to speak, in catering places in hotels and so on, there are a lot of them, but there they are just preparing. and here is the future of this row. but if the bad stories from kharkiv are not good news, but there is no, you understand? no? forgive me, for god's sake. i may not understand something, but i really do not understand, i am not ashamed to admit it. after all, you are not a scout with us. e alexandrovich is a true representative of quite peaceful professions there, at least let's be very expressive. here you are about it all now you know and with a sense of business you tell us, when the military why they allow you to make zaporozhets there, you explain to me, please, i will explain the point is that all these mercenaries are hundreds of them. after all, they are in the status of a volunteer. and that well, now i’m not making excuses for anyone from our side, but because here they came more from them, conditionally speaking, they disowned these polish citizens, who, if we know that they are there, as you yourself

just put it, create a redoubt why do we give them time and this opportunity is running out have concluded that there are options now we will talk. let's talk about the bad, then in the kharkiv region. polish mercenaries are really engaged in the massacre of civilians and half of those terrible shots that we are. in fact, in kupinsky in raisins , filtration camps, executions, torture, extermination of peaceful refugees, and i know all these stories, because i communicate with everyone there. uh, including my journalists, they left the kharkiv region in time. this is how the column that was shot at road to wedding. eh, people have said it all. there are absolutely terrible stories when a woman crawled up to her husband. he told her that they killed me while escaping. she crawled in parallel and grabbed a boy along the way, who was also crawling. they crawled along the ground for a kilometer and a half, then ran through the sunflowers and went to our positions adopted by the btm and called for help. more than twenty

people were shot there, many wounded died, those who survived confirm that the speech was polish, because there are several columns there, well, they shot from grenade launchers, and this one was stopped, that is, the mirnaya car was driving on the van says children are people, they were stopped taken out of the cars there, so, well, there are a lot of details, i omit. the polish did it. these so-called mercenaries are assassins. uh, in the worst traditions of those forties , when everyone was slaughtering each other there, only bandera and the polish would start, to be honest, the question is no better now. why do we have to hit somewhere yes somewhere. well, here's the question. yes, do not listen, here you are now here alexandrovich says people listen to him on tv. their blood boils from what they say, even here, well, at least someone can't explain. here comes here, dear konstantin valentinovich sevkov, alexander borishcha, alexander

yuryevich, there are a lot of possibilities before us. we have planes there, we have where they are all ah. now i don’t know how to exit the program. he would have the aircraft have a question. can we apply them, and why can't we, but, because there are various restrictions, about which you are all fine, dear they talk all the time. what the president says, that our reaction is restrained, we will respond immediately, but we are not a terrorist state, moreover, in the city, where i said. i support what, it means that they are leading as a person who lived there for 100 days, yes, and my people were blown up by a bridge in melitopol yesterday, all this is necessary. all clear. nikolai to be wiped off the face of the earth to hell. erase. this is what the whole world means as citizens. and i will answer you, look i will explain well? look in the nikolaev region on the border of the nikolaev there are fresh highmors in kherson, which were

delivered from oberstein from a german trained and they sandals around the city day after day they kill people. we must lay this question somehow, it is necessary to solve it, as we should. well, like a pike, wait, they stand in the border of residential development, of course, that is, i propose now to just take let it go. no stop. wait, when we took these risks went. actually. what are your initial goals? we must become the same as they understand the automobile plant in zaporozhye, which now under the leadership of the poles vsushniki. uh, they turn it into a fortress, it cannot be hit. now, perhaps, it is necessary at least, but this is a matter of, say, military capabilities, if we have the military ability to strike such that we really strike. we withdraw to others by tcp. wait for the power system in other different structures. even remembering azovstalk. these are all these cellars, everything else there is not just

to bomb all this, in principle, this is true, but what andrey is talking about will be much more difficult, then open this can. we, we are not military experts, do not beat, so for some reason they don’t beat andreevich now then. i have a simple question, if there are so many poles as you say, why do we at some point, since there are also wounded and prisoners, and so on, do not show all this polish pack in the security council. we simply don’t even have a video in all of us, where the living or excuse the dead poles are conditionally standing next to each other, where we tell the world, look, these are not ukrainians. this is not all . these are representatives of the polish. eh, te- territory. who cares? this is a huge difference. they need to be shown so further it is necessary to demonstrate, because if this is a global terrorist international let's show the members of this international, you will show it. here's what, look here, it's him. well, now you have to show at least something, ivan is right, because it’s informational, because, as everyone knows, the

arrestovich, of course, beat him. it will not affect in any way whether this terrorist international will be able to continue its activities or will not be able to show, you will not show it doesn't matter. now, if you liquidate him, then he won't be able to. this is what i understand. the rest is incomprehensible, yes, victor please. here there are several clarifications of such points that need to be shown, and evidence of evidence that these people are foreign mercenaries or volunteers, whatever they are called, are engaged in terrorist activities or someone else is engaged in committing war crimes and other crimes. that is , if there is such evidence of evidence, they must be shown really and at international platforms e and wherever possible, moreover, if in the hands of russia, the dni lc. uh, there are a sufficient number of such foreign citizens, polish and any other, as these british-americans used to show, there are

moroccans, croats, and there are such citizens. uh, there are hundreds, how many there are, really a large number of some kind that we don't see them. then they should be shown too. why because in this case, the people who live in poland are poles themselves, who now live in poland, they will see. this and for themselves will understand that participation in such in this conflict. maybe for them it will end in death or detention and detention, but well, just tell yourself that volunteers from poland, romania, and any other countries are fighting there. they wo n't change anything on their own. that is why, because the participation of these volunteers in this conflict is not perceived by anyone in these countries as some kind of crime , so this in itself will not change anything , that is, the first show. what crimes do they commit there and who exactly is here it shows everywhere possible, and the second. if there is, a really large number of such citizens in our custody shows that we

have them, and in this way, among other things, you will prove that, in general, such a large number of poles is some kind of someone else who is fighting all alexander after in the forty-first year after the battle of moscow, the german prisoners were led through red square and shown to the whole world, first of all, russian citizens to soviet citizens. if he died, therefore, in the sense, i support you, you need to show them and talk more about it. yes, i want to say other after all. you yourself speak international yes, but we are talking mainly about polish participants why because we are with me in many euro countries some kind of white people there, some kind of andrey vladimirovna and there is no need to say that this is formal, they are formally in fact, such a huge number of polish. uh, let's call the mercenaries by their proper names. it speaks about the attitude of poland itself to this whole situation, about its desire to actively participate. i would like to position

you understand we have a desire what we want to explain to them in their conscience, the guys do this badly. we have already spoken to this citizens. do not bomb, do not destroy. there, for example , a plant that will rebuild tomorrow, why does malkevich know that there are a hundred, or maybe thousands of polish soldiers? well, of course, if you know alexander, then our military is the only way out, for the time being, push it back. move ukraine away from poland, and we have already talked about this, here is what you need to concentrate on so that it is physically impossible neither weapon is supplied correctly. they are people. they must move the line of contact from our new borders by several hundred kilometers at a strike distance to the west, and to the east, but in particular, we just have to raise it, you understand, because otherwise it flies to the kherson region, zaporizhia, using alexander, you used the

word mercenaries, which means, that these are people who, as if on their own initiative, came to ukrainian territory. and there, it means they are fighting against us. and we cannot speak or understand how they mercenaries or really representatives of the polish state and the polish army sent there. well , it’s just that for this you need to work, you can’t bring a certificate from the cops. well, you ask him dear uh, mercenary, what documents mustache paws tail, whose polish ukrainian yes, wait, what's the difference is important to grind? vat that the state of poland sent there is fundamentally important to learn. and the demonstration is such that they are spanked on the spot. it's simple and everything. so let's. i was just saying something. i don't generally

all questions. you need to show them or you don't need them to say something to the camera and you don't need to. it seems to me that if there are prisoners of polish nationality or any other at russia’s disposal, of course, they need to be changed to russian military personnel who are on the territory of ukraine, in my opinion. this is a very obvious story. then you can turn on these pr stories, that besides, they should always be changed there. in addition, as far as i understand, the exchange is now going on almost constantly even just perfect. that is, as it were, for what they are not needed. they are needed for pr to show us, uh, those strange ones that they are not needed, so this pr for me is a good pr for me in this case, this is when we come out and say. you know, dear friends. today, they didn’t fire at kherson, no, no, that’s all, that’s all, this is good pr for this to happen, well, he alone. not enough to be absolutely right. just when we are talking about the fact that let's go there for some kilometers move it back by 200. uh, it means borders, but then again, but this territory, which will be, so to speak,

not russian, not ukrainian. she, too, as it were, she cannot remain in a vacuum, so to speak, a la, there will be such a flight, so to speak, the idea about buffer states about buffer zones. it seems to me that it somehow doesn’t work historically at the present stage, as if russia’s historical one was expanding in different directions, because they didn’t trust these buffers, because they thought they would enter, respectively, all sorts of unfriendly the british and all sorts of other germans, that is, in this sense, the stories of burgers do not work, there are armed people who are watching so that others do not enter without buffer zones, nothing works. well, you come and look at the children. thank you. thank you. i am a peaceful person, just like you. but this peaceful person is not peaceful. a year ago, we were offered to put more when there were belarusian-polish borders. i keep a machine gun. i understood what he

was talking about, he says that as soon as this is a buffer zone, the question of protection against shelling will arise this quite right, started the units that patrol and live in bomb shelters. like now, like now they will be there, and people are not there now in our exercise areas. how people are being transported from kherson to krasnodar speech does not work. yes, alexander nikolaevich yes, it will remain out of the discussion. yes, you'll fall out here, i'm discussing. indeed, because each discussion turns into an invitation to go there. and i, in general, that the person is peaceful, but somehow i imagine myself badly, for someone in their right mind to go there. ok. so, what strikes me most of all, uh, and in

our discussion in general in the general context, uh , are the convictions that russia is not working enough there , but in terms of information policy. and so, if something is improved, someone is caught, presented to show, and so on, otherwise something will change. in general, we no longer understand, but the status of russia today in the political and information space of representatives is impossible, you can show anyone present anything. there is no other way, you know, russia is in a certain position, which i will not even characterize. this is the first one, and in general, everyone seems to relate already, respectively, so you can present whatever you like, the internal audience can say, look, we are talking about implementing it now. wait, you know, internal audience. you can excuse the

indecent expression in tula, whatever, that's it, she. as a matter of fact, the internal audience is beneficial for her, but for everyone else, as it were, all the same understand. and here is the second point. e, everyone is talking about moving back 200 km there, separating ukraine from poland, setting up a cordon, uh, i’ll speak very carefully, and hostilities over the past eight months do not indicate that russia, in a state of this threat, has reached the third moment , from which we actually started why poland is drawing in troops, well, it is encroaching, because, again, the attitude towards russia is as it is, you can say the word fake as much as you like, but the poles decided that fakes and fakes, but it won’t hurt to pull the troops, because they had the experience of trying, so to

speak, to impose some migrants on them, the crowds from belarus they had experience, but they decided for e, that is, from it in your understanding. yes, this is a need to protect yourself from the new immigrants. just from time to time different people slip through there, who say that you were there yesterday, comrades of one e, a deputy of the sejm, who says that no. this is what we must take for ourselves, it is clear that this is what we must take for ourselves. uh huh they but it's marginal not marginal, but it 's getting louder. now it is a political project to decide for them what to take for themselves. and what not to take for yourself uh-huh if i were flying, i would speak out about the fact that any person crossing the border should be shot to kill. well, now it’s stanisla shooting the program and you will see

some kind of machine guns offered. let's wait for someone pro business project. now let's add a non-military one. and all that is around since the poles, they themselves, as if they immediately announced before the centuries, the second economic one is the rejection of the entire russian economy. well, as we dug a little bit, we realized that they announced themselves as movements prematurely. the launch of the baltic gas pipeline from norway to poland, which has been shouted at all corners for so long, calling it a symbol of europe's deliverance from damned russian gas, turned out to be a fiction. there is no pipe, of course there is, but according to reuters, the gas did not go due to technical problems, it seems, as it should only be in 2023 and then at half the capacity, yes, and this is still in the project for free non-russian gas was very much counted on in ukraine, but so far sadness is grief. we have preliminary

agreements. and there is even free capacity in the pipeline, which, so to speak, was informally left specifically for naftogaz for ukraine. the problem is that 1 billion cubic meters that we could buy through this pipeline for consumption in the coming winter costs $2 billion at current prices, and naftogaz now there is no such money. i hope to become a new energy hub in europe poles are also looking at nuclear energy, warsaw brussels is now persuading a ban. any contacts with russia in the field of the atom and in parallel agrees with the american company westenhaus on the construction of at least two nuclear power plants with three reactors each. each for the sake of a contract with the americans. the poles rejected. even the budget french offer. so warsaw expects to become the new nuclear capital of europe wistinghouse sees poland as a place where it would like to gain a foothold in this part of europe and from poland to realize its subsequent investments in central europe loudly poland also got rid of transport dependence on the

kremlin to open in september a navigable canal across the spit in the baltic sea. at the same time, it turned out that it is too small for the passage of barges with cargo, and the project itself is detrimental to the environment. so poland spent 400 million dollars solely to tell russia that we are talking about opening this road also symbolically, so that we don’t have to ask for the consent of a country that is not a friendly state to us. vitaly leonidovich these are all polish stories, not they are military, and the other europe of the same germany is perceived as an example to follow. look, the guys appear or it's more like an example of this. well, a little bit, guys, they turned a little on the anti-russian topic. well, don’t hay do something for themselves there, but i have an idea that in germany they take these plans quite seriously. and these are not only polish plans. ah, and with apprehension, because, uh, how do

they see it? well, let's say analysts in germany that poland is creating a certain line, so to speak, fencing off germany itself from eastern natural resources, including ukrainian ones. in a sense, that's it, but according to calculations, we are talking not only about gas. eh, it's on. uh, the offer zone, it turns out, only a bad buffer zone is seriously bad, because the actual goal is to replace poland, not russia, to replace germany in greater europe, uh, and create this line, as it were, from the south, uh, to e, so to speak, the far north, relatively speaking if finland, so to speak, is persuaded to play this game, then we are talking right up to the north and the northern sea way. i want to remind one thing that some time ago there recently one of the european commissioners, timermans. he seems to be asking questions. there environmental protection and so on. he said that russia, as russia roughly puts it, should not be given the arctic, because it does not know how to

handle it. and if we give russia the arctic, then our children and grandchildren will, as it were, fight not in the computer, but will fight for bread water. this is actually his direct tact. he said this when, uh, no matter how claims. uh, poland was not explicitly expressed there for part of ukraine and there was no talk that finland was going, we were not talking about sweden going to nato if you look at this map, uh, so to speak, it really really has more with this project between the seas, with the support of britain and the united states, a serious opportunity for germany, given the current dire state of the german economy, to push nuclear energy out of the first roles, e. it is not accidental, because if history and france, which is the most strong player. eh, to the markets, so to speak. npp here only i have a question. i am not an expert in this, but

nevertheless i have a question. and the resources, excuse me, uranus twello, will it be enough or not? i just have a bigger question. i am not an expert in poland. but you tell me, now in your mind. poland is such a mostly agrarian country with certain ambitions. yes industry. there is a german one. she can’t compare how they want to push germany out of technology. no, not much money will be given by the army. well as if, while no one saw her, he moves. and they are trying, due to which it is still some kind of ambition, for which the void will give money. you understand a neighbor in two ways, either to get an additional apartment yourself, or, on the contrary, to evict him from israel well, in general, poland is a different story. now, if you make such a gradation, for example, well, not out of love for russia, there are countries that dislike russia, there are countries that don’t like russia, there is he who hates russia. and there is poland, and

you know from the 10th century. yes, as poland accepted catholicism since then, historically , russia has always been attacked more, but history does not teach it anything. yes , she always claimed to be between the sea, and this speech of the commonwealth from the 15th to the 17th century is an example of this. but since she why did i say that she does not draw conclusions, it is necessary to measure her ambitions? yes , the people are proud and ambitious, but all these wide approaches, they always touched. uh, losses for poland and how many stories you have already given to napoleon in the 15th century in poland. she joined and disappeared from the map of the earth, so i want to say that these ambitions and these plans to build greater poland, to push someone aside, to lower someone, will lead to the fourth collapse of sometime historical and everything will definitely return . what happened before them. well,

we are smart, we will not allow this. you listened to anna and lena. i'm on tv this morning. she spoke there with them about a hybrid war and said now a hybrid war is not something that, when in in the 19th century, they fought with tank tanks alone. wow , some amazing knowledge. yes, these are well-known therefore nothing. so no, i mean, only that will work. here one learns lessons, but they learn lessons here, there, fools fought in tanks in the 19th century. and now we will fight water, because we are smart. let's anton valevich. what about you too? what is short? poland is a plan that they had for a long time and ukrainian events - it just speeds up. everything, they have long wanted to become the center of political political making a decision, at least in eastern europe they wanted to become a center, and a gas hub and everything

else and they wanted to become such a military-political center in terms of the presence of nato soldiers americans, everything else and this project. by the way, regarding the training of ukrainian soldiers, this is just the same question , including earning money. i wanted to answer two points very briefly. first soldier. we are the military logic of the value of the fact that here we have an army that can very quickly accept any a solution to solve any problem and there are some people at the top who, for some reason, do not make these decisions. the truth is that it may be a little different later on. that the opportunities that we have do not allow. today we need to quickly solve the real problems that you are there today, well, you really understand, you want to, but no. there are two restrictions that have been voiced for a long time. goes against the logic of standing to the last, when you stand to the last life is not important. this is something else important. and when loika, life is civilian life, then every soldier makes a

decision that, uh, as few people as possible die. you can give it back and then take it away, that is, you understand, russia maybe, of course, briefly. eh, briefly quickly solve everything, but for this you need to remove, and then these limiters, are we ready for this, too, the limiter. so well said, almost calmed down some international let's go antonovich. you're not going anywhere right now for a little break. don't miss the events and people of the week on central television. moscow accuses kiev of intending to use a dirty bomb. is the ukrainian crisis already a step away from the nuclear level of escalation, what is it even a dirty bomb, and why its explosion can be many times more dangerous than the use of real nuclear weapons the democratic party establishment calls on biden to sit down at the negotiating table with moscow at the elections

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go to ukraine not for the first time, he wanted to do all sorts of things. with good words, it was still allowed. he arrived. they put him in the basement. i didn't invent this. i am giving you a summary of the synopsis, so he sat in the basement and left. here is the end of the story. yes, now we will show you all this, then i ask vitaly ilyich to explain what it is was. back in april, the kiev authorities publicly refused steinmeir. at the entrance, since they considered him the main ideologist of making peace between russia and ukraine, dimash of germany was initially rated as an unprecedented insult, but in the end, official berlin swallowed the humiliation after a public apology of repentance and stein myra zelensky, as the american edition of the politician writes, allowed the german president to visit ukraine together, trains who delivered the steinmeiers. kiev for the

german president prepared a bouquet, irises and cute postcards with the inscription love in the air, depicting the destruction of targets by german systems, air defense and reste, which ukraine demands from berlin, it is not surprising that the german president began to distribute the promise of kiev as soon as he found himself at the station, my message to ukrainians is that we not only support your side, but we will continue to support ukraine economically , politically and militarily. i expect political discussions. here in kiev, first of all, with president zelensky, as well as the meetings that we we will hold a meeting with zelensky in the north of ukraine in areas that were liberated from the occupiers , to be pushed back to the late evening. before that steinmeier. they were taken to the north of the country to the city of koryukovka in the chernihiv region at the height of the visit, for complete immersion in the atmosphere, the ukrainian authorities specially turned on the siren. no air raid alert though. at that time, as a result, the german spent an hour and a half in a

bomb shelter under the guns of photographers in may, according to the same scheme in odessa bomb, the shelter was hidden head of the european council, the german press comments on this incident. reluctance. there was an air raid today. we don’t know for sure. there were no arrivals, but this does not mean that nothing was flying in our direction or that there were heroic ukrainian women in the bunker by coincidence, who told him in colors how and with their bare hands they were a russian tank and forced them stay. as a result, stanmeier admired the heroism of the ukrainian people and promised to take personal patronage over the restoration chernihiv region, as the leader of germany himself said, he was amazed at the courage of the ukrainian people. there were women there who told him how, in the early days of the full-scale invasion of russian troops into ukraine, they went unarmed towards russian tanks. hey steinmeier. he promised that germany would help in the restoration of the chernihiv region, the german

side has already delivered several mobile generators there. zelensky himself, at negotiations with the german president, said that one system and rest in ukraine is not enough and asked to add more air defense steinmeier. he promised in the near future to deliver to kiev the doors of active fire systems mars and four self-propelled howitzers. many demand an end to the war truce and you said, mr. president, that ukraine wants to achieve a just peace. i share yours. there will be no true peace without justice, and an unjust peace that putin can conclude can only cause a new war. well, shtanmeier, of course, is the president of germany, but not once. the leader is a young lady from this ukrainian television. understands very well. they have a leader. here's another one, too. well, it doesn't matter, the more the question arises. why is it necessary for the presidents of germany in particular to take him to kiev, to drag him through the basements. this is for the sake of which, as it were, we begin with the fact

that steinmeier's main mission was to establish some kind of partnership between german and ukrainian cities. and, so to speak, technical assistance that help each other within the framework of several events taking place in germany, let's say, on the so-called marshall plan for ukraine so so it should also be noted that a few days ago, just a couple of days ago, uh, the famous ukrainian in germany, melnyk, transferred his powers to another ambassador and the german media, so to speak, not without a certain malice, indicated that infantry was being replaced in general, uh, in the present it is anti-ribble, which is even less attractive to us than the russian sun, a quiet calm new man came and after that steinmar flies as a sign that we can do something with this ambassador of such great importance as for germany, for germany's policy,

steinmeier, as it were, does not have, but one must understand the internal situation in germany, uh, one of the very prominent. uh, such as he is called a media philosopher. uh, i just released a book just the other day and it has become without a north. and about how the public opinion of the majority in germany is formed, they want it to be such, he cited the fact that on the issues of a serious institution of demoscopic instruments, 80% of germans. in favor of peace talks 80 yes, but in the media this opinion is not represented in general, well, not by one percent. today i saw it, probably yesterday or the day before yesterday. i don’t know the exact date of one of the german experts, who says that the moment has come when the statement of our politicians that germany is rich enough to support ukraine no longer finds support for understanding among the

population and a little more and so to speak, it will have to be explained to people outside. so i think that steinmeier's return to germany will come back here and say no, guys. i have seen, how ukraine fights and so on. and that we need to continue to support them, and we will give them a little more. in general, it should reassure the audience a little that it is not. we are not yet in peace talks . but hmm, i mean, the audience doesn't think it was all a play. no, and all this will be taken at face value. you had some kind of allegory here somehow the plot. and you know what allegory comes. eh, with this setting. and there is no doubt that this is a production, but, in my opinion, in the thirty-seventh year of josius suryevich. stalin traveled around georgia in in a car with lavrentya pavlovich, the then head of the caucasus - this is a republic and veri staged an interesting uh stereo production. he planted people in the bushes.

they fired into the air. this is a well-known historical, and lavrenty pavlovich is fearless. he rushed at the leader and covered him with his body from the non -existent savior from the assassination attempt. this made such an impression on the steel that it promoted it to moscow. this is very similar to the same installation. it means to declare a non-existent anxiety to show an allegedly existing one. danger art. yes artificiality of tinting betrays its falls , you will recall that the fascist. attention, in order to unleash a war to solder for the benefit, he also used a staging in a gley. the soldiers changed into polish uniforms and attacked the radio station, and these old songs are nothing new and, probably, such such productions they count on to ensure that this assistance was continued to strengthen the original ones. or maybe, and now for a second on a moral level, let's move on to the money, because in the end marshal in the end, it's all the same. yes, how to take ukraine on

the content of the idea in general europeans like the question only who and how much will pay? speaking at the opening of the international conference on the restoration of ukraine, olaf scholz stated the main task. now is the creation of a plan. marshal of the 21st century, in his opinion, money should be invested in ukraine now, as if ukraine won and became a member of the european union otherwise, in principle, the motivation to help kiev is lost, it is important to plan the future of ukraine as a prosperous and democratic exporter member of the european union green energy and high-tech products , it is important that we not only specifically define what needs to be done where to invest. how to organize the restoration of the country, but also thought about how the international community can finance this restoration for many years and even decades, the main gynecology

of europe and part-time, the head of the european commission. ursula fondyrlyan, looking into the ukrainian budget hole, announced that she intends to send kiev one and a half billion euros a month, but this is not enough. 5 billion is needed, the remaining money is proposed to be donated to the united states and the world financial institution in kiev, they knocked out their estimate and it turned out that europe owes ukraine not one and a half, but at least 2 billion about the obligatory us spending on the restoration of ukraine, while tactfully kept silent. we are talking about a reliable schedule, at least for the next six months. we think that germany in 2023 can give about $500 million a month from the eu as a whole. we expect about 2 billion dollars a month the state owes functioning pensions must pay. terrorist president volodymyr zelensky , joining the berlin discussion in a video format, stunned the audience with kiev’s plans

to receive, in addition, some quick assistance to restore infrastructure and ordered the western ally to immediately send $17 billion to ukraine , the weight of our $17 billion quick recovery plan immediately this school’s hospital is vital, important , transport and energy infrastructure. we have enormous needs in housing restoration. we have not yet received a single cent for a quick recovery. i ask you to bring the necessary solutions closer. another demand by zelensky's terrorists to the european commission is to confiscate and finally transfer the frozen russian assets to ukraine. gynecology funds is our goal not so much to freeze as to confiscate assets? this is our task. however, it is not so easy from a legal point of view, we defend the rule of law. but that means we have to follow the rule of law, so we have a lot of work to do to create an

impeccable legal basis. this means that the one who is taken for maintenance requires not just a guarantee for a year, but also requires immediate discharge. he is 17. and somehow not so much. well, uh, i've always said that it's a good business project because it involves a cut that also involves american european players. especially here is this, when immediately urgently. let 's go there on the road up to 50% will be lost and will be mastered. so what about this plan? marshall is the same beautiful. uh, help for the european economy. they cannot destroy anything. yes, but conditionally partially, the destroyed ukraine that they restored. they strengthen for their money with the forces of their companies, that is, they pump up their economy and launch it, they restart construction companies and a lot of other industries. they won't allow it. naturally, no ukrainians before this restoration. that is, they themselves will pay 50-60 80 of these billion euros for their

workers to drive there with their equipment, their building materials and moreover, why is it beneficial for them immediately? yes, because you can then destroy part of it and start building again. that is, it is for europe of salvation. ukraine in this case is also a training ground for weapons and sites. how cold it will be there now. eh, people need to be subsidized somehow. maybe this money is just uh. you know, you yourself are right, there are two serious international aspects. so to speak, political a and economic. well , economically, the next thing is that about 5 years ago, uh , an assessment was made in europe. eh, so to speak opportunities, in terms of abandoning russian and chinese resources, chinese, first of all, this case-metal metal. or the so-called list of thirty strategic options for raw materials, and they

came to the conclusion that without ukraine, by the twenty-fifth year, they will practically not be able to ensure their independence of precisely the issues of this strategic raw material lithium. uh, magnesium, and so on and so forth map of ukraine, uh, that means the main reserves, uh, either where the special operation is going on now, or in the territories that have already become russian, who was brought back without the reintegration of the ldnr. well, we won't be able to use ukrainian resources in ukraine. therefore, when europe says we are investing there, the money is a conditional marshal's plan although not very much they say it is conditional, but they want not to give it. to get these resources and the second, so to speak, the military-political aspect it seems to me that in this way, when, so to speak, the war is in full swing and it is generally incomprehensible. about what part of the territory. they say they are going to restore it. they give us a signal guys. we are on in fact, we will not demand reparations. we

are ready to invest our money. let's try to reach an agreement with you. i perceive this in this way, because in reality i have n’t said a single word, but about the allocated money of ukraine. ugh good. now we will pause and continue with a short break for a few minutes. the long-awaited continuation of your favorite series well, my horses are ready, the action has gone. come on , tell me in general terms that there is a corpse, looking at you. don't get tired of wondering more cops in our city.

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so optional. well, because my program is a different format. it really is like an optional addendum to the meeting place. i just thought that i would invite you until the end of the week, and meet you in st. petersburg at the dzerzhinsky palace of culture on saturday 29, but now i won’t, because this morning it turned out that there were no tickets, on the one hand. i am very pleased that the residents of st. petersburg have such an increased attention to my fate. on the other hand, it’s a little inconvenient, because i can’t call anyone else, because petersburg is in the nearest the future, not yet planned for me means november 9th moscow club magnus locus november 12, dzerzhinsk november 19, ryazan then a little later i'll say. here is what you might like. now back to what you don't like about the next play. such a detective, disappearing letters, which it is not clear how they appeared, it was not clear who were written, then suddenly they became

public, then it means they disappeared. these have been withdrawn. in general, it is difficult to say why and how they appeared, but now everyone is discussing them. this i mean the letter of several dozen, and the members of the american congress are all representatives of the democratic party, who e. well, let's, i 'll talk now, supposedly. yes, they allegedly wrote a letter to baidan that it was necessary to somehow stop and start. in general, negotiations with the russians, and as far as i understand, they didn’t even offer to persuade zelensky to negotiate there, but there was such a message that let’s sit down with the russians ourselves and start a conversation. then, as i said , the letter. it was withdrawn, disappeared, but still everyone is trying to figure out what happened. let's see the next story. immediately, 30 democratic congressmen called on biden to be realistic and start direct negotiations with russia in order to agree at least on freezing the ukrainian conflict within the current borders, in fact.

the republicans are now demanding the same, that is, 2 weeks before the congressional elections. it turned out that only 42% of american citizens are concerned about the problem of ukraine, therefore, in a letter to biden, it was openly proposed to enter into a dialogue with moscow and save the budget, as lawmakers responsible for spending tens of billions of us taxpayer dollars on military assistance to ukraine , we believe that participation in this war also places a responsibility on the us to explore all possible avenues, including direct engagement with russia, to reduce damage and support ukraine in achieving a peaceful settlement in the white house of the disease reacted to this letter, the washington post newspaper claims that biden was in a crippled position due to pressure from both parties, fighting back. greece representative of the national security council at the white house john kirby turned the arrows on kiev the united states is not going to start negotiations with russia without the participation of ukraine vladimir zelensky must decide when to start

negotiations kiev has repeatedly stated that it will not negotiate with russian president vladimir putin and days, as the democrats suddenly withdrew their appeal to biden. referring to the fact that there was a mistake, the press writes off the demarche. on they consistency and ferment within the democratic party. the message itself, allegedly concocted back in the summer, and now the journalists call the compilers of the letter, barely traitors to high, ideals, democracy, a mysterious and disturbing story at the stage of democrats. it is still not clear. why this letter appeared right now, of course, the letter does not include a direct appeal. give ukraine to putin , but the issue of rising fuel prices within the united states due to the conflict of the president's opposition on this issue is touched upon. yes, there is a problem, but these are necessary costs, because there is a global struggle for democracy, elena vladimirovna, perhaps the americans are not known, but we know well that the word is not a sparrow, you won’t catch it flying out, and in this

case you won’t recall it. yes, this sparrow flew out. how do you perceive all this, what kind of story is this. well, it just proves it again. what kind of elite struggle is going on in the united states of america, and the split did not appear there today, we know that when there were elections for the president of the united states , after all, 74 million americans voted . well listen to the vote that the democrats created. there simply weren't elections at all, there were millions there. it was generally good for us. well , what is happening today today, uh, the democratic party is seriously losing points in the upcoming elections, which will be held on the eighth. in november, the congress and if still in the senate there is somewhere a little bit with a small margin in opinion polls and the republicans are still ahead today. well, that is, the democrats still have a chance, then in the house of

representatives, most likely, they will lose or lose. and uh, that's it. this is some part democratic party believes that it can block changes in american policy on ukraine. see. if excuse me now, it was not by chance that in your own story that they are not talking about ukraine, they are talking about rising fuel prices, not only fuel for food. but this is a consequence of the fact that more than sixty-three billion dollars have already been directed to support ukraine. that is, if 42% are only interested in the problem of ukraine, this does not mean that these 402% are not interested in receiving valuable gasoline in print. i understand, that's why they appeal to this. attempt here's how to disavow. this letter 30 is perhaps the most such liberal progressive. er, representatives of the democratic party signed

this letter. let me remind you that now 224 democrats in the board of representatives, of them only 30 years old, wrote this letter in such a way, why an attempt to cover up, in fact? uh, the biden administration made it clear, uh, it's not the right time to sign there, first of all, even in terms of electoral politics. now is not the time for the domestic races of the democratic party. quantity yes. well, okay, they said, why do we need all this. oh, this is, it turns out a few months ago, because otherwise, because otherwise, we would have had to discuss this letter further. and so, and those who signed it, in fact, disavowed him , they say, well, that's it, at the moment this topic is closed, at least no one understands, so this is not a good time for it. in general, the biden administration intends to put pressure. they want to survive the maximum and the current situation. in what sense do they want the situation that is now happening on ukraine, the crisis continued. for as long as possible and uh,

they want to inflict as much damage as possible to the russian armed forces of the russian economy, as you repeatedly said. please tell me how correct this letter is, but a connection was established between this desire to crush russia and the negative economic consequences that the americans face. because of what, in fact, they offered it all to call back the american one. uh, biden administration foreign policy bloc, what power block that is now correct. and those who are now in power, they believe that, following the example of the precedent of the soviet union yes, the reagan administration before it, carter before it, others spent large sums of money allocated to oppose the soviet union, and somewhere the american economy. somewhere in some places away from it. yes, yes, resources were allocated somewhere, until now, resources were allocated somewhere for the military budget of the pentagon of the cia and others for social spending, it’s something else, but then when the soviet union collapsed in

in the 1990s, the united states received a very big impetus, both economic and foreign policy, and they are counting on such an effect. that is, essentially. this is a dispute about itself. a beneficial course of action. those who signed this letter, they believe that one way or another this conflict will sooner or later lead to a negotiation process between russia on the one hand and the united states on the other side, and they would like this negotiation process to take place. it would start as soon as possible, and the biden administration believes that it is still necessary to wait more flawedly, not maximum damage to all of russia. before proceeding to such negotiations, therefore, this is a dispute of tactics, and the tactics that are most beneficial to the united states, but not in the letter even offer to ease sanctions against russia, this is a key point, unfortunately. in the near future, this is normal, yes, the appeals of those who compiled this letter and, most importantly , made it public. they perfectly understood what was the peculiarity of this time. this was

done deliberately. yes, this is the youngest faction of the democratic party, but it’s great for me it was not so much the letter itself that gave me pleasure to study. how many names under this letter and in my opinion it is for the democratic party. a very big internal threat. firstly, this is indeed the most liberal such left part of the democratic party. secondly, these are the youngest representatives of the democratic party. thirdly. most importantly, this is what we call the colored part of the democratic party. see rohan this and those who are israeli palestinian by origin ilhana marra, africa by the origin of the initiator of this letter is the future of the democratic party of the united states this company yes, and they act not only in ukraine with their own original opinion, for example,

on palestine, of course, once there, uh, half of the representatives. uh, there are arabs of african descent. they have completely different proposals on how to build the policy of the united states of america with israel and palestine, and here they again demonstrated their own opinion. they do it on purpose. it's a knife in biden's back. but this what was done was to force them to withdraw this letter, when it was possible to say many thanks very valuable opinion. and now the senior group of the kindergarten and we are watching the sixteenth item on the agenda, yes. and you for now. please. if you please so everyone was watching, right? and many watched, yes, there are no intra-party intrigues of pressure, and several signatories tritely stated that they did not disagree with the publication of this

message. house of cards. someone from the white house called. this is it and so on. you fucked it up signed, and it was. e more so maybe it came, probably, the way it is. uh-huh what a charm here, and you say why parliamentarism is needed. here are the transactions. it is this traditional transactional relationship that the american transactional relationship has. you see, someone from the white house apparatus offers something to him or another representative of his own party, and sometimes even opposition parties. and in response to this, they can give something, and so on, where to shove something and to whom in case something does not start. yes in the country when unanimously everyone votes several times in a row and does not call anyone. nobody has any other opinion. that is why we discussed a lot of different

opinions at the chinese congress. it's a separate galaxy, listen, well , it's obvious that indeed the foreign policy of the united states comes into direct conflict from my point of view with, uh, the civil agenda. yes , we do see. uh, economic crisis, energy crisis. and, and the support of ukraine is after all. eh, also, so to speak, not only weapons, but also money, uh, direct americans, of course, this money will be read and the current position. here i agree with silvarennaya absolutely. she will certainly use. and this is for their political purposes. on the one hand, on the other hand, to score points in connection with the humanitarian agenda. that is, by and large. of course, we have now heard the political science expert opinion, but it is for sale. this is how we want to save the world from disaster, right? the fact that i was the only one who just told me about this group of thirty , to be honest, somehow scares me a little, banned the faction there sixth or seventh. i

speak as a person who is conservative. and then we can bring in another conservative, because you are talking about this passage, this is a conservative for thirty. let's not understand their incomprehensible americans in our viewers, they are little known, but the name of boris johnson speaks of a former british example, but it is known why we remembered him. this publications says according to the publication johnson is on fire with ideas to continue lobbying for the interests of kiev and if he remained prime minister, finational times sources say that johnson is so worried about the ukrainian situation that he intends to become some kind of main driver? dear here of this united western support and supposedly for this, the former british prime minister is asking for a job in washington where he could already justify his office. johnson wants to

capitalize on the position he created during tenure. as one of the main drivers of western support for ukraine in its war against russia, he plans to spend more time in washington to lobby for further bipartisan u.s. support for ukraine. anton should all of this happen and johnson becomes a special question for you. as the main specialist. these are the negotiations russia the united states without ukraine it is possible or he will in every possible way stick his shaggy head into all the offices to prevent this from happening, you know, in this new system that makes up what this is where we draw the wrong conclusions. and let's try to understand the motives, what was guided by, what was guided by johnson e, make a statement by refusing, so suna kama e from this place from the competition, and the fool was now engaged. come on,

come on, come on, come on, look at the situation there, uh, the economic, social and political situation in england . just, well, everything, that is, i give her the choice will pass the conservative party flies problems in the economy of the social sphere. such that there, uh, we are discussing germany, there is much more. everything is getting worse in the uk, healthcare is everywhere, everything is falling apart, in fact. and you excuse me for god's sake saw the news. this is a panorama that he will dare to turn to, that means, with a proposal to allocate there some heap of billions of pounds for the introduction of the british international caste system. i mean , they are real. if you start in this situation, it is very important what moment in this situations. well, for example, the minister's most important task is to keep his position. uh, until the next election. they retrace the path of times not because he is dumber, he is smarter professional, but simply the situation in

which john explains this is a direct relationship johnson is not a fool. he, he theoretically could turn up for this place now to face all this and at the same time have an opponent who was not given. well, he could repeat, just or a rhinestone, what he does. he just goes down. now it's being cut. a hint that after some time, when all this finally collapses, and they will come there. here, yes, here you are the only unique one who will pull out the cooperative party hello he himself should not leave the public public space. he must somehow support himself in the public plane that he is so active. and what is the most important, fashionable narrative or mainstream now? this is what this is support for ukraine, therefore this is a unique position, he is not responsible for anything, but at the same time he says he constantly gives comments and is in the public plane. and when hour x will come, he returns beautifully on a white horse instead. it seems to me now in antonson. you underestimate just talking and

doing nothing. it is for him not not here there is an active action of his proceeds. no, of course, he will take some actions, but the main thing is his logic. this is pr logic. he sees himself churchill well, understandable, but they ask. perhaps from the talks there about ukraine without ukraine. this is not his topic. i water, no, he will not help anything. that is, in general, elena you them with something you were not agree, always agree. today i don't really agree. it seems to me that you exaggerate the role in general. eh, jones is a very important word here was profitable profitable the word profitable. he is trying to monetize the position that he created for himself by traveling to ukraine when he was doing pr there with cockerels, hens, something else and in every possible way gave that he contributes there, what is it like, uh, he has absolutely no chances was to win and now

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hopes for this gas hub, and the construction of which seems to have been agreed upon by erdogan and putin, which the turks say that we all this should be started to do immediately, but we simply start from this haban, because here, as colleagues correctly noted. after this agreement between russia and turkey was announced , m-m interesting events began to occur in turkish ukrainian relations. those are worth discussing, i guess. it happened on monday. it is known that manufacturers of turkish bayraktar drones are reducing their supply to kiev, the ukrainian press spread the news, citing a source in zelensky's office according to erdogan preferred the construction of the largest gas hub in turkey to the supply of weapons to ukraine, which will become an alternative to the nord stream. the turkish press found another explanation, kiev has lost its shores in relation to ankara. kiev's dissatisfaction manifested itself in various

forms, public criticism, official protests, an invitation went to turkey to meet, there were attempts to criticize drones, beyraktar, ukrainian officials decided that they were capable of commanding everyone, whether the world revolves around them and therefore everyone owes them, playing populism, zelensky is slowly losing his sense of reality. and the turks turned off the construction of a drone production plant in ukraine, which has been actively discussed since august. for a short time, the head of the ukrainian association of defense enterprises called drones a corrupt pr-project, more pr and corruption than combat. e combat use. yeah, this is primarily a pr project. i personally was against because they are vulnerable against air defense and the first week of the war, between us we understand what we had. after hearing enough of

ukrainian rudeness for a week, turkey decided that it was better to take advantage of the opportunities in the gas market that construction opened up before it. khaba will make ankara not only one of the largest suppliers of russian gas, but also according to finational newspaper. times will play into the hands of erdogan. turkey is being discussed by the russian side the possibility of discounts and deferrals in the calculations of gas supplied. this will help ease the pressure. on the turkish ira and supports erdogan ahead of elections scheduled for next summer. erdogan's preparations for the elections are being thoroughly carried out by the turkish leader, who is shaking nato, knocking out buns through sweden, finland, who last week again returned to the conversation about the extradition of the kurds. for the sake of approval of their application to join the alliance. well, sweden has already lifted the embargo on the supply of weapons to turkey, which has been in effect since 2019 . applications for membership in finland and sweden are two

trump cards that erdogan will try to use, to get something from the west it could be meeting with biden buying f-16 fighter jets in the us or outside support during the elections something that will help erdogan to get a better position in most opinion polls. on the eve of the elections, he loses, and their ball. if you agree with the conclusion. well, or rather, with the assumption of the voice of america that, and mr. erdogan is losing these upcoming elections, if you agree with this, then what unexpected steps can be expected from him in the near future. well, it's really true, if the elections, uh, took place tomorrow, most likely, he won lost these elections, but the elections, but the fact is that, fortunately, the elections are in 8 months. yes, and he still has a chance to influence the mood of the people, but the mood of the people is possible only with money, but relations with russia as it gives him this opportunity, because in 8 months the

trade turnover has increased twice, e.g. between turkey and russia, therefore it seems to me that everything that was said before makes uh logical sense, because now erdogans are more profitable to be friends. e with russia is even more than before, because no one will economically offer him such projects as he is doing now. moscow is not europe, especially now, so everything is logical here. all clear. as for zelinsky, i can say that in turkey in general, uh, do people understand? why is russia acting in the ukrainian direction, as it is acting? that is, uh, and what makes up this understanding. that's why, well, they usually say that in europe and in the same america, they are citizens fully. their brains are powdered with this kiev propaganda. and why in turkey then in

turkey in the first place because of this situation? uh, the economic situation in turkey hasn't worsened? and, on the contrary, turkey has become, uh, cheaper to buy gas, grain, and so on, then this situation allows turkey to play a larger role in geopolitics in the region. yes, she is in general for erdogan. still, he strives to become an intermediary, and he does it better than the european leaders. and besides , everything has calmed down a little, except for this. uh, popular opinion, which is formed due to the tourist flow there and so on. well, in turkish society it is very politicized in general. eh, everywhere in turkey people talk about politics and this topic is discussed, and everyone understands that if it were not for politics, there is now a special operation in the uk. it wouldn’t start, really, they understand it in turkey, even you who, in principle, are on the side of ukraine this is a very important moment and this gives

a certain field of freedom for erdogan in order to know him further about 8 months 8 months before elections and now everything seems to be fine, the turks are making money, they can ask with the help of earning even more elections are held and suppose erdogan wins, will there be some kind of spontaneous change? from his side, in relation to us, no will not happen, but before the elections we are convinced of this, right now we give a grudge to cut off , you can’t be sure of anything. uh, as in general with any politician of the east, and what can be expected from erdogan at any moment. surprises. this is known in moscow and washington, but the americans themselves drove erdogan, in the need to strengthen e and develop relations with russia well, this is the failed coup 6 years ago in turkey, everyone knows everyone

knows. and the possibility of surprises yes, any moment. what we should do now is to give the turks, but a gas delay, which they are asking now, and in general, they even hint that this should not be just a delay. and they already get such a discount. and, apparently, moscow will do this to keep e turkey, e, as its ally. at this point in history. don't don't be here build. eh, long is not a tragedy. we all perfectly understand that they will give a little use, but we understand that they will use us a little, because we are a little of them, yes, both sides. and with erdogan, it cannot be otherwise with erdogan, but here, in addition to benefits, there are also common interests, and even such a thing as one of the well-known turkish political scientists. murat edkin, writes a common

fate, he writes about erdogan. and putin has a lot of similarities. for example, in relations with america, with america, too, trust is also something i understood. not at all agree that they use both here? if so, i ’ll say why they don’t use it, because this is a mutually beneficial deal and political economics, by the way, which means that as far as public opinion in turkey is concerned, and public opinion in turkey, of people who are ordinary non-politicians, it is anti-american to a very high degree. i had to communicate with very many people, and today they understand russia very well and are on the side of russia in this struggle. america is behind all this, as far as uses, right? we are doing right. we can't navigate alone well a country to china or only there to india or saudi we owe us all of us here you are guided by the turkish, not only by the turks, we are guided by all countries a grand contraption.

we are already building it. now let's look at the numbers, it just gets, as it were, he is not further involved in the distribution of the sale was the cost of our oil urals. e, even taking into account the logistics of delivery, somewhere around 32-35 dollars per barrel on the market. today the price is somewhere. e for 90. well , it fluctuates there 89.94 dollars per barrel even if we supply 55 to 60 70 new said 60 even for us, an affordable price is a profitable price. we still remain with a profit, therefore, the fact that we are laying the price today, but also the volumes, we still receive additional income from the budget, but it may be from this temporary union, this is a temporary companion we have, and let's look at the future. i agree that this is, wait, not an unequivocal opinion.

e in the erdogans inside turkey is perceived very ambiguously in his native istanbul, he lost about at home. the turkish mayor is a liberal, ah, bayraktar, bayraktar himself, too, a liberal supports kiev like this to say he publicly condemned, but condemned russia , the actions of vovan and lexus, e, they talked in shinsky. and this is what he said all about bayrakt, beyraktars. well, he said, well then, fight yourself and that’s all. maybe an economic crisis. eh, the level of the lyre, so to speak. yes, we know where all this is located inside. turkey perceives it with concern. what about? why does the part understand? and russia, well, because they also have imperial ambitions, the great fool, here is syria next to it. so to say, there is also a look at which e wants pick up erdogan and most importantly erdogan speaks. how to say so under this, under the portrait of an ataturk,

like an anti-ataturk, that's what to do from alekseevich your leader? we do not doubt them. you will answer our question of who is using whom and if everyone else is using the same policy. and what is there, and what is there to doubt, of course, on the one hand and immediately we are talking not only about gas. you can recall the nuclear power plant i smoke, there and inside russia there is still a part of society, so to speak , and why are we building them on such conditions nuclear power plant and when we receive money, it’s all long-term brought, we already get russia undoubtedly beneficial for erdogan to be re -elected as the head of turkey because whoever takes his place has relations with russia this is most likely with a high degree of probability seems to be denied. why because the opponents of erdogan's main opponents in turkey are the forces that are in favor of such more substantial coordination with the west by the united states, these are the

forces that are in favor of turkey's return to the usual for her such, and the kemalist structure for russia is, of course, moscow, how much does it work little with these forces. absolutely true for russia, this is very unprofitable, therefore, at the moment. wait for a moment when talking about a gas hub, for example, because we really have already discussed. this we don't know. unlike china, in china we know where it's going, who the consumer is. as for turkey as a distributor of russian energy resources. and who said that germany, austria and other e countries europe, which until now were the main consumers before the special operation, therefore, the direction of e russian companioncture for gas trading. and of course, no one is going to go beyond the unreasonable, and our turkish partners understand this. and we understand this, so we see no grounds for concern here

. peskov you see, while erdogan this rhetoric is already very beneficial, of course, before the elections it is beneficial. this is only about the gas hub , if it is in turkey, as in the country, is that not profitable. break it down, we are talking about something so that you understand, it means that the gas hub is at the moment it is like that, and on the eaves a little fantasy is a big project a big project, which at the moment does not have an end user, cannot, no one can not the turkish side, no russia at the moment cannot guarantee that european consumers will buy russian energy resources from turkey knowing that it receives them from russia absolutely no one in europe has given such guarantees and has not even stuttered about this, therefore, at the moment it is a very convenient rhetoric, not only for russia, for turkey, a rhetorical device before erdogan's outbursts. he

can speak loudly about it. and what will happen later if he is re-elected, and is the gas hub project ever implemented or not? and now let's see anton ivanovich, i respect you very much and one of the smartest experts. a. but i'm protecting everyone from drawing conclusions. this is due to the lack of information. if we do not know something, and it seems to us that she is like this calls it fantasy or something else is not worth it. it is quite possible that there is something that gives the basis for the implementation of this project or there is nothing. and perhaps, but the case of an expert says only what he knows, she speaks to him as we do. and if not, we can't you do it right the most honest answer the expert say, i don't know, because i had no information for this, honestly, that there are no prerequisites and russian gas. god is you know religious disputes are probably best left to another

program. so, everything is everything, answer your questions, who uses whom you know, that's the task and the essence of any mutually beneficial cooperation. whether there is international or domestic or between a partner to each other mutually beneficial to use we have to use. well, sort of a little. there are i no no no three, in fact, there is no cheating. here, whoever can use each other in this, it's okay, if you have a friend who sells bread, you, uh, come to him. well, since he will give you for free the second time he will say. well listen, why would you pay? therefore, if we need something from turkey, we pay with something, if turkey with something that we need from russia, respectively, turkey pays with something, this is such a club, if kazakhstan needs uzbekistan and karabakh and bashkortostan is a great caucasus here. if this is a question, what can we still spend time naming 150 more countries yes with russia everything has a price sometimes this price has juice, therefore, what who needs too much, what is

needed, because what and the scenario of what is never the same do. now about erdogan. here everywhere it sounds, that the leg will not get over. listen. i have now opened and looked at the latest data, unlike in the summer, when most of them are a few percent. anyway, the majority, therefore, believed that e still wouldn’t get in, there is something 48 by 47 now the situation is now more yes, that is, erdogan, that you will still be re-elected there, too, before the request, so there, of course same, those heavy political landscape, even after all purely there, of course, completely different populations. there is a population of conditional istanbul which, yes, more liberal is more pro-western, as usual, hipsters, relatively speaking, well, that's what we call it, and there are, uh, ordinary people who work in these hotels and creep dependent on the russian tourist business, so they crushed america of course. and of course the majority. indeed, after all, america is an active minority, which, moreover, is why everything is complicated. this is a very good conclusion. everything is complicated, but we will continue to try the nut of knowledge,

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a childhood story about a cabrete, how a boy tried to sit on two chairs and then pinched himself. i'm all connected. with what we will now show you a story about israel, which, in addition to the renewal of the jew, may not understand anything, because andrey vladimirovich will agree with you. it seems to me that nevertheless there were rumors that israel seemed to be. began to deliver, nevertheless, definitely a small, but certain weapons in ukraine today, the israeli and turkish defense ministers will hold their first meeting in 10 years, experts believe that in the light of the elections to the israeli knesset. this conversation may have far-reaching consequences. the meeting between a benegan potential candidate for prime minister of israel and turkish defense minister hulusi akar is very important. the process of restoring relations will largely depend on the successful restoration of relations between the elite security forces between the parties there are clear points of contact, including on

ukraine in syria and iran, israel continues to take a neutral position on the ukrainian issue and is very angry with kiev on monday , terrorist president zelensky once again attacked the israeli authorities, because they refuse to supply him with weapons in the country, the question was put point-blank. isn't it time for your state to choose with whomever from the democratic world, which is fighting side by side against an existential threat to its existence, or with those. who turns a blind eye to russian terror even when the price of continuing terror is complete the destruction of global security since the spring, the kiev authorities have tried to beg israel for an iron dome air defense system, but over and over again they were refused in early october , the new york times found out that kiev did not stop terrorizing tel aviv on this issue, and this is how they write, israeli it is not in vain that the iron dome terrorized the publications, until they give it. but weapons against drones, like when, while

minister benny hans denies the fact of any military assistance to ukraine in ukraine, there were already israeli systems for intercepting drones, a smart shooter, the israeli system is controlled by artificial intelligence. what makes her virtually invincible is the number of misses. she has a minimum principle, according to which this weapon works one shot one hit, it turns out elena put the squeeze on something some contraption. of course, there is a contraption and it has been talked about for a long time. and that some israeli gizmos appear there on the question of volumes, and israel will not go for such volumes, e.g., which ukraine is counting on , including because there is also an election campaign. but only if in turkey we are talking about the next year, here it is already on the nose of the first of november. and when elections are held in a country almost every year, and in israel it’s something like this, uh, then there’s no time to discuss serious e

-supplies that can uh disrupt relations with other countries with russia yes, and turkey can look at all this from apprehensive, despite a clear improvement in relations between tel aviv and over the king. and if we are talking about some large deliveries, anyway , the minister of defense says, we are not going to do anything. there to deliver and nevertheless. we already see some photographs that make such products just a private company without a sanction, no luck talk. these transactions have already become part of the election campaign in israel and those who are now making noise, so he makes a statement about it. uh, it's a number of individual politicians. israel he does. e statement, including taking into account their voters and but in fact, believe me, and in israel it will be very much not up to it, it’s already not up to that, uh, there uh, an even more complex company than it will be in turkey and uh, election results. eh, not at all obvious. er, it's

not obvious even to the extent that, as always in israel lately, if someone wins, he may not get enough e portfolios to form a government and the formation of a government will also take place very, very reminiscent of the house of cards. that's why i watched the whole series there, firstly, the seasonal norm, and the rest are not very good. well, how is it all, maybe someone from the american administration raises how it all looks. box and asks very much, well, right now he asks to send something to ukraine. why are we not considering this? and, because there is no one to talk to now, uh, because given the upcoming elections, given that me, netanyahu has a great chance, if not immediately to form a government, then at least put a spoke in the wheels of everyone there, or else with whom will talk? baida, he will talk to netanyahu or he will

talk to someone with some collective body, but in israel now, uh, it is necessary to decide with whom who is this subscriber to be determined, it is not immediately determined. yes. well, first of all, there is such a moment that they were able to pick up the phone and then send something to ukraine. the fact is that international relations. they are very multifaceted and even now they sell gas to russia through ukraine. that is, due to the fact that someone will sell something to someone, this is not a determining factor. no one will go too far in relations with russia because of ukraine, except for the usa and great britain europe understandable she became a hostage of the situation with the hostage of the situation, and such forces as countries such as israel israel turkey iran they are still, but er freer in the decision, especially when it comes to international foreign policy,

so it seems to me that israel will take into account the influence of russia that is, on which there is today. e in the middle east in particular in syria come on, let's not forget that e is the life of israeli citizens. yes, it depends on how some pro iranians behave organizations in this region. yes, this is closely related to the fact that russia thinks about it, russia can. if you want to limit your iran in syria yes, and influence. if you want, you can't help but do it, it seems to me that here, but there are many other factors that are very important for israeli policy, for example, a pipeline across the mediterranean sea. uh, let's say, uh, other gas projects with this pipeline across the mediterranean thought. you know, russia there is seismic shocks of approval, without this e complex relationship russia turkey

israel, by the way, israel also already has good relations with turkey. yes, it is impossible for israel to fulfill its plans directly as it would like, so here play ukraine factors of ukraine, no matter how much zelensky would like to increase this factor. yes , not so significant everyone is supported by those who support ukraine. not because they love very much. ukraine they think what they think. this is beneficial to them, so he needs to be supported in general. but ukraine and the leader, uh, ukraine get rid of what everyone is from from such desires that everyone should to help him, perhaps, here, uh, so it seems to me that israel will behave in the way that it is beneficial for him to understand, not to teach israel to kiev how to conduct a foreign policy, especially israel yes, they are already trying or we will stop. yes, we need to stop. now in a couple of minutes we will be back and we will finish the program. the man told

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come from there from the earth from the fact that happening on the front lines. that is, in principle, this is impossible, but in the near future it is impossible, but not in the near future, i am convinced that inside each side there is a so-called peace party, and if it is in the interests of russia to really achieve peace, then it is necessary to create platform platforms for consolidation. here are these. eh, these same parties of the world. everything depends on us. yes, so certainly such forces. there are i have always said that there is the whole party of the world. here's the western party. i’m just renaming the party of the frightened world and the party of the aggressive war of the frightened in a different way now, because including possible nuclear conflicts and here is an example about the americans, but who will let them do it now, so vic, you know, ukraine is capable of resisting russia primarily thanks to the united states and its allies. and this means that as soon as the united states demands that kiev go through e, move on to a serious negotiation process, kiev

will not be able to refuse, and the united states will come to this when they consider that the risks of continuing the military conflict outweigh the benefits and so on. i think that now it is impossible, because the west sees negotiations first of all with the united states, if with russia, then only from the position of the strategic defeat of russia, this one is also unprofitable and impossible for us today. we need military victories to talk about a new yacht, such a power. it is possible to find it very soon and it is even possible that this force will draw up some kind of agreement with us, and, of course, something will be signed with us, the only question is what to trust in those forces that are signing something now in an atmosphere of absolutely worldwide distrust , it becomes very difficult, well, about the theater that no one liked, it means that two gentlemen meet one another, sir. you were at the theater on thursday, well, then he takes out a notebook

its so look yes was. well, you were there with my wife, yes, indeed, it was with her. you know, i did n't like it. you know to me, too, it was a meeting place that cannot be changed. we meet on weekdays at 14:00 on ntv, all the best to you and goodbye. there is a launch of strategic missile forces conducted training.