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caught that tired old. there would be a new season from monday at 20:00 on ntv this program is true, good evening, we begin with an interesting dialogue that took place yesterday at the valdai forum. let's listen. a lot of people zoned a little, remembering your statements. right here, at our event 4 years ago, that we will all go to heaven. we're not in a hurry, really. here you are thinking, this is already alarming somehow. and i specifically thought that you were wary. the effect has been achieved, who should have been

wary and has the effect been achieved? and why is kiev going to detonate a dirty bomb? and all this is literally at the same time when the president took part in the training launches of our missiles and all the missiles reached the target. armenia is going to be finally torn off from russia such a plan was developed by washington. what other provocations are preparing the smell of the post-soviet space there. this is what we will talk about today in detail. the effect of a-a should have been actually on the alert, they should have thought, but the reaction is a little different. let's see what kind of reaction actually, and in the western press, that 's exactly on this very dialogue. let's see putin condemn western liberal elites and downplay nuclear fears in his speech on

global issues. further. see warmonger . says the dominance of the west is over insulting for more than three hours, putin looked confident and relaxed, which contrasted sharply with tough formal speeches at the beginning of the war, a distraught putin in a chilling speech warns of the most dangerous decade since the end of world war ii, that is, but such a strange reaction, in fact, the president for almost 4 hours, and he spoke and spoke quite softly. yes, he's just, for the most part. he spoke about what is happening now in reality in the world and called for dialogue, and he hoped that really heard understand. and here is the reaction here is such it seems to me that they were simply frightened and the hysteria began. this means that the confrontation will continue to grow. as he thinks, it does n't mean anything at all, because the focus is on the message. there is no media of any kind in the modern

world. they mean nothing, fortunately or, unfortunately, for us journalists, probably, unfortunately, but the world already works like that. uh, all of the above-mentioned media for a long time can create certain moods in society, and then the result is already certain actions of the authorities, because in society there is a certain mood these above-mentioned media uh-huh they broadcast those pointers that are given very sad look at the reuters, when it was a serious agency that gave a dry, which means, well, not emotions in the good sense of the word information. well, that's insulting the west for 3 hours. you and i were there yesterday putin did not offend anyone. in general , he certainly never criticized the west. what certainly has every right, as a leader states and in general. any person has every right to criticize anyone, he is certainly with the west. he didn't agree and so on, but he definitely

didn't insult anyone, but the reuters, but you insult yourself, after all, when you write such nonsense, because it all has nothing to do with either the news agency or journalism. all this can simply be ignored, that we are discussing them here. you know what i would like to discuss. i would like to discuss facial expressions. here in this short episode, which you now showed facial expressions fedya lukyanov and putin vladimir vladimirovich saw a drunk sitting waiting for an answer. he even trembles a little, here's the breath, hurry up and wait. what will he answer and we were sitting there with you and, uh, putin survived. eh, a pause such as he knows how to beautiful. here it will be a facial expression now. yes, watch what you tremble. shay is trembling, fedya is wonderful, in fact, the moderator is wonderful, i am by no means a troll now, as fedya is usually said, i have known him for 100 years, but the situation. i would, too, probably his place, handing over such a question, probably, and look at vladimir

vladimirovich dorokhov, it's true. it was for me yesterday that you know, there was a session of such a personal psychotherapy. so, when i was sitting in this room, because i was completely relaxed in an absolutely good sense of the word, confident in what he was doing, confident in what he was saying. confidently and thank god in the future and leaving for a second. yes , he talked, talked, talked, talked and did not want to leave. yes, even fedya already says, everything is the last question. i'm the commander here, not issued. well, wait, well, one more. well, two more. well , three more and a, that says more to me than anything that was said at the event. everything that was said is also certainly important. but the way it's said. and here are some little things that you observe in the gait in the timbre of speech in the manner of speaking, they say a lot. and most importantly, because, probably, one should have expected a

valdai speech from the valdai forum, and this is always such an annual event that captures. tone in this year's international current affairs, yes, russia's relations fix what is happening and it is amazing that at this event vladimir vladimirovich was not in the speech either in questions of experts or in discussions, after that there was no. not that there was a lot about ukraine, even a little, there was just a little bit. that's completely impossible. yes, i think there is only one question. it was not on purpose, but it is clear that the situation with ukraine from the point of view of our leader of our state and those of our allies or neutral countries or countries that are kind to us, but cannot say it out loud. and recently i have been meeting with some ambassadors of some countries, including those that are considered to be some

degree of satellites. i will not manage. i don't want to set anyone up, yes, but people call me themselves. in the reception and they say, they would like to come to meet you and come to meet me. just to my small office in the office, to express support, to say what we know, and it’s clear there that we are so and so decitelites. well, actually we are with you and here is the leader my country asked me to convey that we are with you and in general, come to visit. so this suggests that from the point of view of us, our leader and these countries, what is happening in ukraine is an episode. it is, unfortunately, sad tragic, because people die unconditionally. this, of course, is a tragedy, but this is an episode in tectonic changes, in the earthquake that is now shaking our planet, changing its landscape. you know how here, how we have young mountains in sochi, how they slide and pass

some kind of mudflow that completely changed once and for all. you you don't recognize this place at all. there seemed to be a mountain here, now it's gone. here the level was expensive, but now it’s not, it seems to be. and then everything fell asleep and it was about this, and, of course, it is very interesting to reflect and discuss this, that the world will not be the same, it is now different. but it will be very interesting to talk about this for 4 hours , right? is there more michael? and hmm come on, a fragment of putin's speech and he tells. o. well, what kind of breakdown? right now, right next to the very world about which we talked about these tectonic shifts. there, about it, about everything, he really spoke. why do i speak kindly really, because we then talked, there and before and and after naturally, yes, before we expected one rather tough such rhetoric, there and so on, none of this happened, but at the same time one of our uh, a mutual friend said good that it will be a historical speech, and which, well, this is a historical

speech, which will then be read and reread, there and so on. yes, well, did putin actually indicate what situation he is in? world and two ways exit. here, let's listen. sorry peskov, you can call it rum his ass will not be good. yes agreed, who sowed the wind, as they say, he will reap the storm, the crisis has indeed acquired a global character. it affects everyone. eh, there is no need to harbor any illusions in front of humanity now, in fact, there are two ways to either continue to accumulate a load of problems that will inevitably crush us all , or still try together. find a solution. though not ideal, but working capable of making our world more stable and safer. here question uh-huh but you personally, which option do you like more, of course, the first one, where the load will crush or the second one. well, of course, the second, of course, the second only i am a realist. i know that while the operation is going on.

we are with you we are doomed the whole world is doomed to the first, unfortunately, that there is very little e, contact and there are few objects, but real subjects for negotiations. that is, it turns out that yes, we will negotiate, but on the terms of one side. whose this side will win, i do not agree with the president, he just said a little differently. he says we need to find a way out. maybe it won't be perfect, maybe someone won't like something, but it's better to find a way out. until it's not too late. i mean this question. remember, i said that there was such a compromise option, maybe , if we assume, theoretically, donbass. that is, this is a compromise on the part of ukraine because it is ukrainian territory. it's a compromise, because it's often very small of what russia wants, but it has already passed, because now russia has increased the rate of annexing certain regions. and this is no longer acceptable. they are for ukraine, for the west, you

know the most important theses of putin in they are all familiar. nothing new, except for one moment, i explain it this way, what do i, well, what we hear putin ah-ah it was yesterday, ah, but nato is to blame, of course, for this arson- the united states set fire to wars. uh, menagerie, uh, of american imperialism. all this and russia was forced into speech. putin, uh, did you listen or did you watch the 25th congress of the cpsu, i’m here in the soviet union, but little has changed in the fact of the matter that we have already heard. this is 70 years old. yeah, it changed that russia russia was forced to start special operations, there was nothing left. the us pushed it. yes, we heard that the us west does not understand these, but these arguments. well, there was one new thing that i can quickly, but that i hadn't heard from putin

before and it's strange that he didn't talk about it before , that in america it seems that there is a regulative conservative chas that shares his values, russian values, too , especially in the south of america that they are not very fond of lgbt people and they are very conservative. and it's like it's not like that. well, because i'm already scared. thought it did n't exist either. then everything is bad. why didn't he talk about it before? it seems to me that this is not a coincidence that he said this on the eve of the us elections because he wants to say that maybe we are with you, maybe this part is with you. well, that 's remarkably bad. this is a good signal to those people who will come to these very elections in america and will somehow vote, because i remember, for example, the americans. what are the americans doing? and we are here we are support the opposition. and here we are inviting

the systemic opposition, but not the systemic, but we invite them there to ours. went there with them. eh, they drink something, eat something, talk about something. we saw a huge amount of all sorts of money that continued to go in the same position. i mean, we don't even do that. we're just saying, probably, right? yes, if here is such a game of logic that we can appeal to this part of america so that they put pressure on their excellent deputies. well, there is one, but what is theoretically it's possible, but yeah, they're conservative, they're religious, they don't like being anti-abortion and that's it. and that is, these are common values, but this is a conservative religion. america still does not support the special operation anyway, therefore, you don’t need to get yours, so that they die so they will come to the polls and vote, and then further we will talk with whoever

they vote for or with those, maybe those who they will come, they will take it and say, they need to, let's say, spend money on this whole story. same policy to call for expenses, we'll see, yes, we'll see, i wanted to say something. i just want to answer him, because you can't leave him unanswered. russia michael does not annex anyone. you are confusing russia with someone, the russians are annexing anyone russia is fulfilling the will of the exhausted people who were once forcibly together with the territories, and then to ukraine, which they had nothing to do with and did not want to have, and then it was ukraine that began to bombard them, to humiliate them to deprive the right to speak one's own language to deprive the right to be those who they are and we are their michael i'm sorry please save. i didn't interrupt you. i waited for my time, when the host will give me, and you do not interrupt me. so, if we want to talk about

justice. yes, you say that negotiations can be on the terms of one or the other. well, probably from the side of negotiations on conditions. ukraine is unfair to russia, negotiating terms russia is unfair to ukraine negotiations should be on the terms of the people who live there. you are democrats. are you for power of the people there live millions, many, many millions of people. and the negotiations must be on their terms. and you will be amazed. michael, you do n’t know such words in russian, what people living there will say in relation to ukraine during such negotiations, if they could take place, but thanks to you, of course, they will not take place, because you have been doing everything all these years so that the voice of these people is not heard. and it would be better if they were all buried, as the children on the beach of zugres had not finalized 8 years ago. almost all of them were bombed. well now get what's true. i wanted to object, but what can i say? margarita

described, of course, the donbass because the last 8 years have been, of course, cruel. uh, they fired on and many victims, and so on, but now not only the donbass has joined russia , and probably the khristoforskaya region and the zaporozhye region, but the question arises before february 24th. but it seems to me that they more or less lived, er, calmly, what kind of genocide was there before 24, what shelling was there before twenty-four? that is, i can i can, but you will agree with this more the truth is that yes, as if how did you save the people of the tortured people in the donbass and how to explain while sitting? and two more, and the regions that lived calmly, they had prizes, of course they were not russian. why did they turn off the water? well, why is this not a reason to introduce, of course, everything is not bad. it’s not a good reason for you to turn off the water, it’s not

a reason when they deprived the light, it’s not a reason when they fire at it, when everything related to the russian language is closed, it’s not a reason when renaming streets is not a reason, when monuments are demolished, everything is not a reason to damage this issue without specificity, of course we tried. we've tried for many years, many years of trying. well, it doesn't work. and you, yes. you, on the contrary, incited them and you said no, the last thing that could be done was to fulfill the minsk agreements and this is also not. and today, today, another action, another system, michael today, and i already told you that it's better to hit the brakes today. so far, four more regions have become part of the russian federation than to return to this issue after a certain time, when not four, but eight regions will enter the russian federation, and maybe 10. therefore, it is better to play ahead of the curve, but you do n’t understand this about me. the weapons of the show are a conversation for a reason, because well, we hear yes, from all sides

, in fact, that the russians will use nuclear weapons, the russians will do it, then the russians of the twenties and thirties putin participated in these launches for a reason, sent us signals putin himself says about nuclear weapons. let's listen as long as nuclear weapons exist there is always a danger of their use. the first second is the purpose of today's fuss about nuclear threats and the possible use of nuclear weapons, and it is very primitive. and i'm hardly mistaken if i say, what is it? well, i have already said that this is the dictate of western countries. their attempt to put pressure on all participants in international communication, including neutral or friendly countries, ends in nothing and they

are looking for additional arguments in order to convince our friends or neutral states of that we all need to confront russia together. in the hall, representatives of india, china, pakistan , indonesia, indonesia, that is, you understand, yes, these are just those neutral or friendly countries, and which, in principle, can change their attitude. if all of a sudden this nuclear strike happens and it means, uh, certain comrades will explain to them what they did? we therefore understand why the president is talking about this. well, what do you think, in general, in principle, do we allow this option or not, in general, that there will be an exchange of nuclear strikes. well e in this speech began. what did you see? yes, that is, if there is always a risk of using nuclear weapons, of course, and i strongly disagree with those who sometimes say that nuclear

weapons are needed in order to never use them uh-huh well, this is an illusion, a complete one. here we can partly agree with this when it comes to strategic. i'm talking about intercontinental missiles, yes, now, since we have them and the other side has them, and we can withstand the first strike and respond to them at the level of unacceptable damage, then then we do not apply the opinion to the strategic level, and then only conditionally. everything else may agree with this. uh, it always exists quite right, the risk of use, especially at the lowest tactical level, when it comes to shells and mines, for example, in a nuclear version, there is such a risk, but who will cross this barrier, and under what conditions is it extremely important, so now hmm what are we talking about. e, means that the escalation becomes uncontrollable at each next stage of the military conflict. uh,

the confrontation becomes more fierce demands. give us more weapons from kiev sounds and more such impressive not only is it nowhere and calls us zelensky calls openly. actually. strike there, a nuclear strike, some other strike. he also talks about this, and if soon this is an escalation and will continue to go up the stairs and there are no means to curb it, then we understand that sooner or later. it even tells moscow the great and terrible about this, yes, that we will still reach this level tells me already clear. in three moves, which will inevitably come. that's why there is concern, but here's a curious reaction hmm for some reason you like to quote british tabloids, apparently you like the language there . yes, i like it very much. yes, terrible putin chilling news, there and so on. but it was, and reuters is never there. no. well, there was

there was, yes, or we were there ourselves it's a classic, then, uh. so there is this wonderful newspaper washington post, and there is the old fox. international journalism is like that. uh, that means david ignatius is not to be confused with david petrius. uh, a former oberspy, so that's on the list, yes, yes. e david ignatius, who we put on the list of sanctions, what he writes on the following you were there yesterday, and the next day he answers putin, let's. let's break now. and you will tell us what he writes in just a few minutes, when we return to the studio and continue the conversation with our guests strive to become a winner. turn any game in your favor. master the art of empire. we know that you are not stop, because they themselves are the same betting company as an official partner of hockey clubs. lokomotiv yaroslavl and dynamo moscow jackie of the czech republic

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so, their propaganda you are completely wrong. uh, so let's behave differently, - he says, he was offered a dialogue there. have you heard everything? yes, but what is the dialogue about. here. eh, can we talk about how the war in ukraine should end? can we force ukraine to stop the conflict on such and such conditions? it is their business, but we have done our part of the work. yes? we have limited their appetites. we've put up a barrier. they asked for a no-ice zone. we didn't. they

they asked for these very tactical missiles. sms attacks at 300 kg range. we didn't give and so on. and then something else was not given there. that is, we put a barrier here. and then we can’t force them, but we can immediately conduct a dialogue with russia not about how the war will end, but about how we can’t face it, the sea is completely in the air for us, completely in space, remember, in space, he drew attention to this point, yes about the satellite, yes, yes. on this occasion, we can lead so we must begin immediately. why don't they start the washington jersey and they ask, but the t-shirt is already turning. they are all of them all of them, the t-shirt is already with us simply, as they say , the repeater. they all turn exactly through the situation in ukraine, and so far there it’s all gone. well, no, it means that we will smoothly approach, exactly to the very scenario that sergey borisovich is talking about and that elon musk is talking about, and about which he warns. actually, this person

is completely undermined. even for this little mike , yes, what does trust have to do with it? i may not trust you at all, but you need to think about the fact that tomorrow you will not will be, and i will think that tomorrow i will not be . that's all, but at the same time, we are igor evgenievich , they are not just, but somewhere, there are some signals that let's try to agree so as not to let the whole world down globally, just not to lead to a catastrophe. no, on the contrary, they are throwing more and saying that these tactical charges are all bombs. that's all, but let's quickly get to the russian borders, quickly to the russian borders, it was originally planned that this would happen in 23. now they are in december the finns are going to do this, moreover, the finns declare that you are the newest b-612 bombs. yes, this is some. yes, don’t hit there, and so on, the finns say that we are joining nato, but that doesn’t mean everything and it’s not written anywhere that it

’s impossible to place any nuclear weapons on our territory, as if on purpose or something, they do it. they understand that we will not stand and watch silently. for all this history, we will definitely be responsible. well, why is this being done? well, if you look at the situation with yours in the format of a month by computer science days, then from the point of view of hmm western partners, as vladimir vladimirovich putin used to call them, in my opinion, now they are sometimes called the former western partners. sometimes just western partners, then, uh, the key qualitative moment of escalation from their point of view began with, uh, the annexation of four new regions of russia and from the point of view. west and i must say here that with regard to the negotiations, uh, the negotiations that russia is talking about, and they uh, are

proposed in a very strange way. i wanted to remind you when four regions were brought, which vladimir vladimirovich said. he said that practically in the same speech. e start either in the final after there were regions. he said that we are ready to sit down at the negotiating table. condition questions about the four new, and the regions that have become part of russia, we are not discussing here is not remembered. uh, the great ford that said you can buy cars of any color, as long as something is black. yeah, that's the first topic, so you're talking, you're talking about negotiations. what let's decide? ok it's me these are about the negotiations between kiev and moscow, i wanted to talk about completely different negotiations and the president is talking about other sanitation. i am answering your specific questions and from a point of view. the west is a qualitatively different level of escalation that on the same day immediately ukraine decided not to

lead. negotiations ended negotiations, in general for good after the decision of the region was made and this is a qualitative level of escalation and the answer to this answer to this is the action that you just said in finland he wants to plant some kind of bombs to his borders on his territory, and so on. yes, i calculate that the escalation of its beginning. but this is the quality of my words. here's what. you say it's in their escalation logic, the next level of consonant logic is their logic. this is in their logic, but in our logic we show. these are the same missile launches. cannon missiles and the president participates in these launches. this is our logic in their logic, and again hit in hysterics. let's get this one show me please, eh? map map here's an interesting map, so we launched these rockets and now the map appears in their media. let's

get a map here. with distances, here we are from plesetsk to kura , and then they publish everywhere, see their logic. they publish to berlin 2.000 km to london 2.500 km. and before smoking , you understand six seconds, yes, and a rocket can fly twice six times, and to london 2,500 km to washington 7,400 km, what kind of flawed logic is when they talk about exactly this, that is, they want it happened, that is, to this here is the red story. i went here to the left, or maybe it’s better to just say, listen , here’s how sergei borisovich was explaining with ukraine there, we’ll sort out the ukrainian case there, as they like to say. this is a different story. we help, we will help, in no case will we stop helping. here's the whole song. well, let's agree with you that so that we have the opportunity to help, and you have the

opportunity to spend yours, so that we do not disappear. planets and the whole planet, so that this logic no one is guided will not react. first. if the error in numbers is six thousand 2.000 2.500 and how much is 7.400? i don't see any errors in the numbers here. yes, the meaning of the map report is written, second, why did they draw these infographics here? as you understand, i was not a participant in her drawing. ah, they drew it somewhere, there they show the dangers. they show the danger if they launch missiles in russia that they want to reach 6-6,000 km. look through the whole of russia rocket can rocket other countries. well, lord, we have children were always they know it, they have not discovered anything new. this is the most dangerous. they know for many decades, of course, the main danger is to make sure that this does not become a

reality. that's what i'm talking about, what kind of ukraine is there, who needs this ukraine when we are talking about a global danger, but for some reason they are slowing down. why can understand how just look, it is very dangerous that a rocket. maybe by mistake or really go the other way, so you need to do this. it might turn around. they didn't ignore it. they did not ignore this, because it is good that this card is not shown. it seems to me that this logic is somehow flawed. i do not want to offend them, because, for example, they are germans, germans. look at what they say, give me this one thing about berlin we want to screw up. can i tell igor for a moment that decades ago, a decade ago. we didn’t just have such missiles, one american general, in my opinion, it was a maknomarok, if i’m not right, he said that even if the united states america will deliver a preemptive strike on the soviet union, even after that the soviet union will

have the strength to turn the united states into a strait between two great oceans. so nothing new happened at all. this is what amazes me. that is, they seemed to be all asleep and then they discovered that we have rockets and it turns out that the president, and he and some kind of carmagedon are being prepared there. no, he just tells them, armageddon maybe, but it's better not to let it happen. no need to talk about, do not want to talk about armageddon and you showed. uh, earlier one of the president's most successful and strong remarks, when he paused, said the effect, yes, so far. so, naturally, i am afraid of being a plagiarizer, but uh, listen to this conversation. i'll put up the president. i want to say the effect is achieved. good god to be reached. well, for some reason i have doubts, because they write, for example, they write in german newspapers. putin, participating in this, wants to hit berlin, why does he want to hit berlin because

berlin is the closest, or what? here they are for these numbers oriented. putin is definitely unlikely to want to, but they are afraid. okay. let them go to jail. why, after that, i explain, i explain, if it’s just like that, everything is simple. yes, giggles, there are some crazy people there who are frostbitten there, talking about it, this is one and all. but when the leaders of the state talk about it, it means that they create. here's what. i say, margarita, they create certain moods in their societies. and that's how they cook. this is the very society of a hypothetical scenario like this, and at the same time do not explain to them that the russians do not want this. on the contrary, they will get into their heads that the russians are, although the russians will definitely do this, and then then the next step. they are already signing certain papers and making certain

decisions to transfer tactical nuclear weapons as close as possible to the russian border to finland, in what quantity we do not know how to transfer tactical nuclear weapons to poland , for example, as an option. in what quantity we also do not know how to deploy tactical nuclear weapons. i am i admit these options in latvia, lithuania, estonia, these are all our borders. and when nuclear weapons are already here starting to appear here, sooner or later, this is true. maybe something like that. this is where bad things happen. here is the history of the battle. here she is anyway. and it is said, and most of all astral. wait until then. this is for now. what will happen tomorrow nobody knows, and we are still seeing this completely hysterical reaction on their part. and this means that they will then demand, hiding behind exactly. by this i understand, yes, that you do you think that the western political elite believes that there is no threat from russia that

it will never use nuclear weapons, but in order to excite public opinion in their countries and to get arguments in order to increase their armament accordingly, the arms race on their part they, uh, manipulate it. i always thought that to consider, of course, to consider this scenario, i answer. i believe that they, of course, believe that there is a threat from russia, and so they have been considering speed for many years. how many years have we already existed. that's a nuclear weapon. that's so many years. they think it's unfair, but it's a nuclear weapon. it is a deterrent weapon and for many decades, it has performed. this function, but now when these conversations and these publications are going non-stop, and when we see the leaders of various states who are happy to talk. i don't know for the red foliage or whatever they push those

buttons, and then thank god for 44 days, she lasted the whole, yeah, that crazy one. and that's already quite a different story. it's a different story. and, of course, this is preparation for public opinion. alexei listen to you. eh, roman they are far from crazy. let's remember some things. the first one can have a different attitude towards the soviet union towards russia, but we did not come up with the concept of a limited nuclear war, the concept, of course, of a nuclear war, the limit was invented first by great britain and then by the united states, what is it? they had a few, uh, shifts in that concept, the first shift in 61, when some omoknamara proclaimed the concept of flexible response, it is not necessary to hit the cities, - he said, he does not need to hit not on berlin or moscow, it is necessary to hit the rocket, as he said. you yourself should not hit in the face, but smash your

fist, hit your missiles at the start before they take off, and then we will dictate that world to you. what we consider necessary from here is their whole concept, the so -called warheads capable of hitting buried targets, that is, the mines of the second shift, when we have built up our potential sufficient that you can’t destroy it with the first blow came in 73. us secretary of defense jamesinger, who was looking for a home to go to hit not with intercontinental missiles, but with medium-range missiles of lesser range and hit not at missiles, but at the leadership of the country yes, in 40 minutes of your system. missiles will be spotted under the ice, and in 5 minutes in seconds there are no 5 minutes, we kill the leadership with an aimed strike, and then stay with god with your nuclear arsenal. this quotes there will be no one to give the order, while optimizing it. that is why we

have created all these dead hand systems and so on, and then in the ninety-three-fourth years, no one will, and then even president clinton, under him , a new concept was adopted to hit some kind of complex of targets on enemy territory in order to force him to sign the world is absolutely limited, which they non-stop, they tell us absolutely and all the time they tell us about the black sea fleet. something else is there about something, yes, they change there all the time, but nevertheless. it's straight. the same thing is exactly about this second novel, which worries me, and in the anglo-saxon countries, not only in the united states but also britain is not so catastrophic. according to the perception of nuclear weapons, which we have formed in the soviet union, there is a huge group of people who speak, moreover, the military. and who is this? actually i checked that this would lead to the givi death of everything alive, everything will be fine. but they say hiroshima, nagasaki yes

, we exist, they say, in the fifties the united states conducted an exercise that detonated about 70 warheads in disrepair. well, that no one in las vegas evacuated the corpses of the irradiated, no one was lying with a bulldozer removed, especially if it will be low-power warheads. you conducted exercises in the fifties. yes, in general, two and a half thousand warheads blew up my husband during the exercises of the forty-fifth year. well, that no one died, no matter how civilization stopped in the concept of nuclear winter. but it was some scientists who modeled what kind of scientists they came from, or maybe they were political anga maybe they worked for the country's leadership? maybe they frightened us on purpose, that is, a huge number of skeptics who believe. yes, it's just a very powerful bomb and compares hiroshima nagasaki with

140,000 more deaths in dresden than in hiroshima from a non-nuclear strike. so they have a number of skeptics who believe that it is quite possible to use nuclear weapons, it rolls over. yes, it was in soviet times that we formed such an attitude that it would be the end of the world. that is, you think that, and here are these proposals. or rather, not a proposal. i don't even know what to call it. here it is, and appeals to reason from our side. they won't hear them at all. third moment, let it saturate. so i remind you in the ninety-seventh year, we sign the release of the author of the senate , yeah, there was such a wording that nato had no intention to place. nuclear weapons on the territory of these members of the alliance now all the fundamental lacta no intention, apparently, will appear, which means that if they place tactical nuclear weapons there, what is it from us to provoke us into a preventive strike, and what could be the goals of nuclear weapons on

the territory of finland poland malaya flight time, given that we live in the age of precision weapons. these can only be strikes on centers and on control centers or on a decision-making center before our leadership has time to make a decision to respond to a counter strike. that 's what it's actually going to be for. that's politics, so the united states is accelerating the transfer of modernized nuclear weapons to europe. the decision was made, you know, yes, moving on and that were just a model no more than the new arrival of the modernized b-612 bombs. now scheduled for december this year is the acceleration. look further sergey look, this acceleration is taking place against the backdrop of heightened tensions here. yes, i understand, yes, about it, and then it's interesting. russia's threats to use nuclear weapons in ukraine is what? has anyone in this world heard, in fact, the statement is from

putin and from shoigu from gerasimov from lavrov from maria zakharova from margarita simonyan from roman babayan, i don’t know from vladimir i’m coming from someone. maybe there, but they heard a statement that russia, uh, is going to inflict a nuclear strike on ukraine novel is strictly, on the contrary, whoever heard it, no one heard it, but exactly this position is being sold to their people. that's what i'm talking about, igor evgenievich, exactly what i'm talking about, and it's not for you for sergei borisovich. worse, because we don't make such claims. they consider. so they won't risk using it, these guys. so with them in their logic, if we do not make such statements, so they do, they will never risk applying it. it is like a chemical weapon, in world war ii it will lie in warehouses for the entire future war. and who then prevents us from fighting with conventional weapons? yes, and this is this, this is their strategic idea to transfer everything to

a collision, but with the use of all the rest of the weapons, and not nuclear ones, and they have been talking for many years. and they explain. they are explaining to their people, there, everywhere they say, the total power of nato is five times greater than that of russia, nato has so many ships, and the russians have so many ships, they have so many submarines , and the russians have so many he is so planes, and the russians have so many, and therefore, if we are not talking about weapons, then we will definitely just squeeze them, as they say in a hog. this is logic, though, don't forget one thing. we also had this . we also had such a sovereign, emperor nikolai alexandrovich, who also spoke about japan in all our fleets. how many times more do we like the troops in general more we like it and how did a very good hint end. yes? let's take a break now, go back to this one, judging by literally in a few minutes and continue the conversation with

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kiwis are preparing to blow up this most dirty bomb, the president also spoke about this yesterday. let's hear from the president. we didn't publish it by accident. uh intelligence agency data about the fact that they are preparing some kind of incident, the so -called dirty bomb decided to just do it. we even know where to do it. it is the remnants, there the nuclear fuel was slightly transformed by the technologies available in ukraine allow it to be loaded there at point y or somewhere else they blew it up, somewhere this nuclear device was said that it was russia that had launched a nuclear strike. he we don't need to do that. we have no meaning . not political, not military. so no, they do it for you. and this i gave an instruction to shoigu to call all his colleagues and inform him about it. here, look how the situation developed. we just observe, let's say,

the information flow. shoigu calls the turkish defense minister and talks about it. a. well, and then he calls the french minister of defense, the british minister of defense, and i was surprised at that. this means that they then wrote on their website the british ministry of defense that yes, a conversation took place, and it was conducted professionally and on the other hand, and very, but somehow correct with mutual respect. something the same is not accepted in modern british politics in modern british politics, absolutely everything is accepted now, but to lead his professional career. that's why i was surprised. yes, that means he called the british secretary of defense twice. with the us secretary of defense, then a statement appeared on the website of the state department where it means conclusion that this is russian propaganda means, uh, britain, france and the states. here we believe that this is not

untrue, and so on. hmm , then stoltenberg appears and makes a very interesting statement from memory, ukraine did not go crazy to use this dirty bomb to blow up on its territory. i shuddered, because that's why you need to talk about your territory. and here it is the joint land of our country. clearly made it clear that we are all statements that ukraine is preparing on its own territory and stoltenberg speaks about its own territory, and if not on its own territory. can anyone give a 100% guarantee, for example washington in london in paris in ankara there and more where? yes, they will not blow up this dirty bomb not on their territory. we don't care where they're going to blow it up. we talk about what they do. it's that they are preparing, and we have

intelligence data, and we even tell them exactly where and how they want to do it, but they keep telling us, no, that's not all. and propaganda, vladimir nikolaevich, what do you think, can today's kiev these comrades who dug in there really take and arrange it. well , let's not let ukraine go crazy. here came down from crazy this regime is the satanists of ukraine rule today. well, those people who are absolutely inadequate. take the secretary of defense's statement. yes, i already said that ukraine has become a testing ground, damn it, testing western weapons against russia could be said by such a normal person. i understand the military exercises at the driving range and so on, ukraine has become, that is, without anything, the destroyed economy leads to the death of people, and so on, and zelensky’s statement was a preventive strike on nuclear weapons, and no one pulled him back. and yes, then

there are they capable of this, but i stand the task of such 10 days. we should be hard pressed. why because follow the dacha? save an ordinary, more precisely, not even a serving byte. it's just problematic to save kherson from taking it and there will be no that reaction. yes, we are protecting the whole world with nuclear weapons. yes, or just fear i do not catch up, but frankly they also sell fears. yes, that's why he doesn't sell fears now. remember, you asked the question, they just want at the subconscious level, so that every person in europe has at least in order to actually do what they are here, here is the horror of some such question. and who said from russia that we will use tactical nuclear weapons and so on there are doctrines, everything is spelled out. yes, yes, and i want to tell you they are here because of the well-known anecdote. remember, when two politicians speak one

says, and this competitor's daughter is on fire walking there, which daughter is my sons, and you died to people. tell me, that is, they let you in. this is all being promoted in full and so on. now i'll start where you started. see the reaction of the western media is absolutely predictable. why did they answer? how are satanists? putin's truth, they gave the answer that putin said. it was quite a fundamentally moral and ideological performance. yes, he said guys, but really. you consider us second-class people. yes, the second you somehow demand from us according to the law, and according to the concepts according to the rules. well, as a criminal group, a papanie, he continued to say, but let's change the rules, which is absolutely not in the interests of america's golden billion. he says the country should and be a sovereign subject the first rule is to find a balance of interests the second rule. here is the phrase balance of interests. this was

probably the most frequently repeated, because, for example, a combination of balance for the example of vpk, russia and saudi-saudi arabia find a balance, russia does not press america presses to spit on their interests. that's the problem and certainly the rules in the international rules. one for all so here. e putin denounced satanists. what caused such a reaction? i'll let you here too expose a little. uh, michael may said that putin's speech is not accidental. this is on the eve of the us elections and there are also people there who are committed to traditional family values. yes, i will press even trump. remember his goal, which says, i'm going, uh, to the presidency to dry up the washington swamp. and what the hell are semi-fascists, fascists, and so on in the swamp? mike well, that's cunning. you know, not in the main. you correctly

said. putin will listen not today. tomorrow it's so to say, who wants to hear it, but you don't main said. and what channel in america showed putin’s speech? which channel showed at least one four hours, not a picture, and then there is a comment, i don’t give a damn, but i don’t care. about family values. you didn't show you ignore. eh, putin itself because he speaks the truth from the guise of this and ukraine is the same with this low one. today, well, important events for ukraine are october 28th. liberation of ukraine from the german fascist invaders. this event has always been celebrated at the state level, as zelensky congratulated, congratulated on the liberation of ukraine from fascism and did not even say who was there,

much more, and marshal malinovsky street was renamed heroes street, and there, in my opinion, again, that they are there they want to demolish the pav, here is this stella on victory square, here are these church square. this stella himself is standing there. here is a department store. so i remember, and here is the circus to demolish this stella yes, because. well, why do we need a victory i mean , evaluating self-performance. well i would say soviet army. yes, it’s not upa, upa, it turns out i ’m asking. and what did the upas do on october 28 to may 9, when the soviet army went there, that they went there to liberate auschwitz buchenwald prague no, in the rear they were beaten in the back by a soviet soldier. well, you have zelensky’s grandfather a hero, i respect things, of course, not the stars, so to speak. well, you well, as shevchenko wrote glorious great-grandfathers, great-grandchildren of the trash. you are just a

satanist. and then why keep silent then it will appear necessarily after a certain time, because they do not give a good education, as we do it received the phrase allied forces. this is who you understand, and then the men fell, so this satanist must be stopped. the way putin said, we are all interested in living normally. we are all interested in living in a civilized world, but satanists have never been in the majority. what turned them into? and the fact that this minority is aggressive, unprincipled, it has no restrictions. i am an orthodox christian with a limitation. don't kill or steal is difficult despite the fact that you are not a saint. let's talk then no kill. yes, you see the children kill those, kill all kill, so we must unite in the fight against uh this dirty bomb phenomenon. she, too, is trying to understand logic, here is yuri, here

i’m trying to understand the logic, look, but we take tv yes , with just spent fuel, stupid grinder, we saw it, preferably with a manipulator, so as not to learn. yes, this is the elementary bullshit you pull out. yes, sergey is big, that’s exactly how it works, that’s how it is, and everyone knows about it, you take out these capsules, then by and large some landmine is even enough landmine and you scatter it. after all, your task is not to kill as many people as possible, and your task is to infect the territory, and it will turn into an exclusion zone. and well, depending on how much of all this is there, it’s not some kind of new story during the time of the chechen campaign that we had, but in the north caucasus these same terrorists, then what did they do? we remember it, too, i remember this report. and masyuk showed us this container, which was buried

somewhere you know, and she also said that they have buried and demand the withdrawal of the federal troops. so, from the territory of chechnya there, well, then all these traditional ones, as they say, the demands of the terrorists. that is, it is absolutely possible to do this. if there are just these terrorists who were sitting in the mountains, they can make this dirty bomb in ukraine, the ukrainian authorities may well make this dirty bomb and may well detonate it, and on our territory, and then everyone is all in white, because they will say, we said that they were on their territories cannot go there by road. and these stoltenbergs. i also did not say anything about this territory of ukraine. but the fact that on your territory for a second this is kherson today. this is due to the porozhye region today. this is donetsk, this is lugansk, this is all donetsk people's republic, lugansk people's republic - this is our territory. this is crimea, our territory can be brought there. we talked about the iaea exactly a week ago, sergey

borisovich well, sergey borisovich said that the magat is a very respected organization. we ask rich people about this yesterday, putin told us about it, few people paid attention. we ask rich people to come there to ukraine as soon as possible and do research. actually, what happens at their nuclear power plants from where these fuel elements can then be taken away with spent fuel, and he says, they seem to be, when, but at the same time, when they get there, big questions, but according to our information, he says ukrainian authorities. now they are trying. remove all traces of work on this bomb, and they are on it work, he says, he, what do you think, that's what is not in a hurry to get rich, that all these comrades go into this very refusal but, how can this be explained? do they really want to wait for the scenario when, let's say,

this explosion happens, then they all in unison, all in unison, accuse us, let's say. although you know this from the spectrum, it will be elementary to prove that this is actually not our nuclear tactical weapon there, because these are completely different things, but nonetheless. they need a reason, you know? i am i won’t say that it’s russian and therefore teach and something like that will fly at us from all sides, maybe such a scenario was easily drawn exactly, that is, here a point rocket is taken, which means that the rocket has rudders in the form of lattices these rudders are changing. that is, it is already somewhere on something . there are two options for this rocket from the kander, or they simply undermine it in the place where it is necessary, they launch it, and it falls and the infection occurs, which you just talked about. this is the first option, and the second option they even they will be able to beat, if you put a beacon on the rocket, they will open fire, from the same from the complex of letters m1 and exactly 100% defeat is also guaranteed. and

here, in general, you can play a classic performance, right? yes, and uh, so why is this all, perhaps it has already practically begun. in may, russian troops enter the zaporozhye nuclear power plant 30 tlutonium and 40 tons of enriched uranium, our nuclear scientists grabbed their heads there, wrote to the magats, and the magate reacted. in general, they are ladies, let's figure it out, no as we urgently summoned a delegation. no one came, that is, there are mountains, who pays, he orders the music, as they say washington pays washington contains the iaea rich see how ours? magaten members are issued visas in order to participate in the work and accordingly, they understand the same head of wealth. oh, he can be thrown out of this post any day, if the americans give the command it turns out, then the situation is very bad. it turns out that they need a reason at all costs to attack us in that including and i think that madness no very important

point, that now the worst thing is happening in the west, the americans suggested that's what a colleague told. but the most if you develop what you said. eh, it is already proposed, or rather, the process of creating low -yield nuclear weapons is underway. this is somewhere half a kiloton of a kiloton 5 ct in this case, a nuclear missile. she becomes destructive. approximately the same as powerful ordinary ammunition. uh-huh and nato. they say that if we use nuclear weapons like this, nothing terrible will not happen. most importantly, there will be no nuclear winter. died. well, millions of people, but these are not billions and humanity will survive, and they allow nuclear war already in the open version, and this is practically being discussed. at all conferences there are computer games constantly computer games the pentagon participates and some american university there, this model is processed through a super computer and it

is proved that there is no nuclear winter. yes, nuclear winter. indeed, if i'm not mistaken, dr. alexandrov was in the seventies, uh, really on the american supercomputer read everything proved nuclear winter, the americans recounted confirmed the pentagon recounted confirmed. and now here they are. well, i think it's from above, a dastardly theory that is calculated to start a nuclear attack on our country. and there are even whole strategies for getting out of a nuclear war. now here, i would like michael to say nuclear war as possible, that is, they strike. they simply and immediately offer us that so that there is no escalation, so that we do not suffer much more and losses. so immediately stop and accept the world on their terms. here's one like this. well, i think, in general, wait, wait, here sergey borisovich has 1,200 1,500 nuclear warheads there, he has some missiles and i have the same number, so

he shoots me. i immediately shoot him, of course, and so he is not there, and i am not. they proceed from the fact that hostilities begin with the use of just tactical nuclear weapons. i personally think that the purpose of this provocation is to create conditions when the west say the western public opinion is ripe for the fact that it is necessary to transfer to ukraine so some nuclear weapons, and maybe you understand that, and unleash a war between ukraine and europe. part of russia has nothing to do with it and they have nothing to do with it, they say to their own side, but we have nothing to do with it. this is ukraine, listen, well, you yourself, you attacked them, they will say, and you annexed, did you do something else there ? here is what michael tells us, so ukraine is defending itself, because it can defend itself. quite an option. yes, you can literally half a second. here michael was just saying that we are, as it were, to blame and that we are not to be trusted.

excuse me nato is expanding to the east. how many decades, not years, but decades, before starting a special military operation, russia will make a statement, send a document to washington , brussels, respectively, to the european union. what answer are two letters a mockery? it’s just a boorish tone that causes the americans to pay tribute to washington, some points noted that even something related to limiting strategic weapons. the rest of us are not willing to negotiate. here, who is to blame, who brought the zap to this whole situation, who didn’t give a damn about the interests of russia, defiantly, in fact, you abandoned the documents that we sent, and now you say we are to blame russia is to blame, and we cannot trust you with a lie, yes . let's look at the results of the survey that we conducted on the ntv website, it's just on this topic. let's get the results, then the question was formulated as

follows, which can lead to the start of a nuclear wars? can you imagine, these are the topics we are talking about, friends, and moreover, so now that ’s how it’s like about the usual problems, some means 46% the west’s strike on our territory 36% any accident when someone’s nerves and 18 % explosion ukrainians ukraine dirty bombs. that is, well, well, the blow of the west on our territory is 46%, it seems to be the majority, but there are all sorts of nuances, and we are talking about these nuances and it will turn out that there seems to be a blow. and the west has nothing to do with it, yes, and here's how in this situation behave further. let's take turns, there is margarita, then vladimir nikolaevich, then alexei valerievich, i wanted to comment on this sign with their statement about this that ukraine simply did not reach me. if it can be shown again,

yes, what are we talking about now that ukraine will not blow up, e.g., on its territory, etc. return yes, return a joint statement. as i understand it, i’m in the same place, what jarred most of all is not there, the fact that you have something on your own territory on someone else’s, which means that you yourself could have just to say ukraine will not blow up a dirty, in any way no, russia's blatantly false assertion that ukraine apply to prepare before a dirty bomb. your own territories why don't we discuss? from the very beginning i wanted to say this, the ridiculousness, the absurdity and the deliberate falsity of this statement. because this is claimed by people who know and see very well that ukraine has been shelling the zaporozhye nuclear power plant on its own territory for more than a week and a month, provoking a monstrous nuclear disaster on its own territory. and they

they know about it, that she does it, that she behaves like a psychopath and behaves like psychopaths to the management . well, no, we can’t believe it, the zaporozhye nuclear power plant is being shelled. well, it’s different, apparently, or we just don’t talk about it, but there won’t be dirty bombs, no matter how hard you believe it. look, they're already doing it, what's the difference between firing an au and exploding. uh, dirty bombs. nothing will be the same. what, in principle, can you doubt that ukraine can do something for its own territory? stories ukraine simply openly kills people who are trying to escape from there with grenade launchers. remember, sergey borisovich , you say, how can it be, this is a war crime ukrainian soldiers see grenade launchers in this grenade launcher from the grenade launcher hit this direct visibility. they know where they hit ukraine - this hits the dam itself, kakhovskaya this very one, they themselves distribute all these terrible leaflets of some kind that will soon be there, and

get ready for the flood, but i’m not expected there, the second and so on and etc. this they don't say, they say, they don't just kill people there in any city in which even yesterday they themselves actually stood. today we left this locality and let's strike at this locality on the very people with whom we were half an hour ago. we drank tea, for example, you remember this hospital in mariupol says, they came to us, drank tea, came out and immediately blasted the basement with a tank with direct fire, you can doubt the difference. there is no doubt about it friends. we will now break back to this studio in just a few minutes and we will continue our very interesting conversation with our guests. lenin reassembled the russian empire and , most importantly, launched the processes of world decolonization, russian writer about the russian leader lenin is the world super brand the eternal enemy, the colonizers of the white

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evidence as presented by colin powell. remember, he came with a test tube and showed nonsense in iraq that there was something there, there was nothing there, but there is evidence. unless the name of the company is the name of the people involved in this all the same and winning. i'm assuming it was said about consequences because we know you're in control of that mode. you give money, have other influences, if something happens it will be our reaction. i think they heard it, because calls began to pass intensively and so on. now i will absolutely support you, because the shelling is going on at a several nuclear power plant. she is generally protected. from even the plane crash , we are right, and so on, but there are containers. this is nina nina is not the bomb. amin where the nuclear waste is, and they are shooting, and putin also said yesterday. well, tell me, what is the point of us shelling the territory where our troops protect themselves? well, what's the point, it's already pure satanism to say

that you are hitting your territory. america has been adhering to this for years, i have heard about it all, yes, a nuclear bomb. donetsk themselves were shelled and air conditioners explode, it turns out they are artillery shells. and the crimean bridge. they 've done everything. we are everything even if there is what it is, therefore roman, if there is something even, god forbid , russia will not even be allowed to go there, but they were not allowed to figure it out to the nord stream, and here even on the territory there is no need for any imitation of the iaea, controlled everything will not be allowed in and etc. america today is taking a dangerous step any nuclear possible provocations with tactical nuclear weapons, the transfer of weapons or dirty only on the territory of which the test site of ukraine, which will affect the interests of belarus, russia and ukraine and europe, where the wind blows, putin also said, therefore they are interested, as long as they do not touch the territory.

gotta be warned guys. your territory is also under such supervision, sergey, and instead of hearing some arguments or some signals , you will receive that everything is clear to you, but from ukraine, everything is complicated here. but in principle, there agree. here, so that everything disappears altogether. yes, instead of all this, we hear that we hear a statement there from the germans that we have already decided to hit berlin on schultz tells that or whoever there is steimeier, finally, he came there and sat somewhere where he himself is in chernigov yes chernigov he was sitting in a bomb shelter, and then he said, we will definitely give air defense systems . schultz talks there about what needs to be strengthened, and support for the urs. he is a darlyan, generally agreed in plain text. there is a statement of this here, ursula fonder, layne. give me this statement here, openly. you're amazingly simple the world has gone mad. honestly, definitely. our

goal is not so much to freeze. how much to confiscate russian assets? this is our task. however, it is not so easy from a legal point of view. we are working on this special expert group is engaged not only in the inventory of frozen assets, but also in the study of legal prerequisites that can be used to confiscate funds and send them to restore ukraine what is happening beautifully in the open, openly says that our task is to simply steal russian money . yes, 18 billion of ukraine, you know, as for 17 billion. and they stole it and froze it. well, 300 have already been stolen from us. do you understand what a good gesheft they receive themselves, where will the rest of the money go? a 283. maybe she's talking about it. yes, i first briefly comment on this situation really. but they swung at this money. yes, they froze. so what do they lie? let's confiscate them, but

the question arises. and what to do next with them? yes? let's say i took money from someone. here, my pockets are bursting, but i must do something with them. i can't walk like that with these pockets. yes, and now i have to do something with him and then, and they started talking about a certain marshal's plan for ukraine yes , there, in my opinion, he says rings, yes, at the same time, here i am, here i am, an honest pioneer. yes, here he is. they don't even know what a tablet is. here i am for you exactly because judging by what he says, i understand that he has no idea what it is unfortunately, european politicians know little about what, yes, say, and there was a completely different idea in the plan. marshal, he was not about money at all, he was about launching, so to speak, a recovery mechanism, but, and here the tragicomic thing in the situation is that and if this money is squeezed out they will be taken away, then it’s not a fact that they will go to this marshall plan because there's a line out there waiting to spend it. now, if you start to figure it out, there

is really a queue there. here, in fact . why spend? yes, the poles, there and so on, but you know, well, after all, none of these statements are not surprising to those present. we 've had it for a long time. i don't know, maybe this is how the information bulletproof vest has grown. it doesn't break us anymore. it's simple or i don't know, you know such a shell, but what i want to say, but it doesn't surprise me that the smell of the president says a lot with his eyes. but it seems to me that ours is very interesting here, and the discussion fell out, for the time being, a very important point, and the next one we ah and quoting politicians and hmm you read into some western headlines. the media we missed third party. here are the invisibly present. we talked about the west and russia, but there is a third party, not the western world, which seems to be, like an orbiter, or kneel. no. well, i just listed, yes, i listed the people who

were sitting in this hall. and this, yes. we are representatives of the population of the earth. let me tell you more about this. yes, but margarita here spoke about diplomats, yes, who come to communicate there. i had a similar situation on the day of the form, in the morning, it was in the morning i talked. uh, let's sit down from forum members. ah, the former ambassador of one very rather big country. he literally six months ago, my friend left, good, he called me. i just technically could not dock with him, and i had a conversation with him that was similar to the conversation of fyodor lukyanov. so i also tell him. well, we are friends with him. i say, you know that in general everything here is about nuclear war, so they say there it was again. i speak a few hours before the conversation. he says sergey yes, relax, there will be no nuclear war. i say what are you decided so? you see, this time i tell them everything that we are talking about the red lines.

calm down and your army will break the back of the ukrainian army, and they will all shut up, and they will understand that this is all without perspective. they will lose this goal to believe. that's what he told me, and you really know when we quote western ones, these are the headlines. yes, what a smart person. that's what i remember. yes, he went to some country, he left, they changed, syria went, i know, yes. well, what kind of country? no, no, very big countries, but you understand, right? yes, you understand that now, about this, i turn to a dirty bomb. after all, in fact, in fact, i don’t quite agree here that this is for this dirty bomb in order to provoke some kind of nuclear conflict, this is an interest, another meaning, another is to simulate an information provocation in order to force this my friend ambassador yes his prime president in clear text. yes, to tell them guys. well, you see, well, already

cover. we warn you that he is not a monster and bloody. but you didn't believe us. here's the good news. yes, i told him. and you know, we also talked to him. well, we talked for several minutes, i'm talking about a nuclear bomb. you understand, so they will inspire you. he says there, well, we're not idiots. well, we also have scientists. we also have nuclear weapons. yes, and we immediately understand what it is. yes, but they do not conduct spectral they understand. and now, look, we are coming to a climax, so, let's say ukraine - this is it, this is going to this provocation. yes this information bomb exploded, but it turns out, then two plus one. i mean, these are the people. they are not idiots. those who were sitting in the hall are the ones with whom they will communicate, having parted ways, there i am prime ministers, ministers of foreign affairs. yes, so to speak, national

security advisers. here are the people who sat in the smell of the non -western world of the so-called global south. they. excuse me, they won't buy it. they are not such idiots, and then it turns out that the whistle will leave the desk, then why is this information provocation started. she won't work. it will not be possible to isolate russia, perhaps, but as for it, as for it, i want to say more about alexei. oh, thanks. you remembered this one. three, well, i'd just like to make a little clarification. it concerns, in general, the discussion of nuclear weapons, when we talk about all these things. we must understand at what level the conversation is going on. is it on a talk show level? is it on the level? i don't know of any seminar or discussion that decides on a very narrow krulitz, not some newspaper that wrote, and i think that these westerners there are nato secretary general us president as for nuclear weapons, they are cowardly and they will retreat hmm maybe, but here

i am talking about these people too - this is exactly the person who makes this decision. yes, yes, but wait, there's just just raging raging. so i wrote a post of myself, it’s fierce, just this one, but you understand the law of degradation, and we’ll see what else the new one will talk about what new examples will talk about more wait, it's not evening yet. now a second, and i want friends, and e, i definitely want to change the topic on this topic. one way or another, it is still a continuation of what we talked about, and there is a statement by the president. and the situation at the valdai forum is armenia azerbaijan turkey russia let's see what the president said. for many years we have been, uh, having a dialogue with m-th armenian side and, uh, have been proposing to settle the issues related to karabakh in the following way at some stage. e. hmm let's deal with azerbaijani side. give away sing districts, but

they are not needed senselessly. they're just empty there , uh, the people are gone. in fact, territories were issued with this, why there is no point in keeping them, but for communication with karabakh, uh, two huge regions, by the way, are quite enough and the armenian leadership went its own way. uh, as you know this situation that has developed today. our position is that this peace treaty is, of course, needed, but we are not going to impose anything, we cannot impose on the army and are we not going to armenia to dictate another plan? this plan was born again. actually in the states and they are continuing this concept. yes, that is , wherever it is possible, wherever it is possible to complicate complications in order to force russia there, not only in ukraine, not only there.

and here, so that even the courts, our efforts are gone. yes, and resources and everything else, but the president said about this plan. five five two, yes, that is, five districts to return two left now from today's height for armenia from today's height day. this is practically two is a dream. yes, but the intrigue still exists incomprehensibly. now they will have to sign the yerevan treaty and the peace treaty, but there are two options. as far as i understand the peace treaty, there are our proposals and there are proposals that the americans made and there was a leak and a scandal is going on there in armenia , the opposition, non-stop. actually with this agreement already. they found somewhere the text deputies of this. am. this means that the armenian parliament is being torn apart. there this agreement is everything, and it’s not clear. which of these options will be signed by pashinyan. he made a statement today, it seems that, yes, i will come to

moscow and sign, there is russian, actually russian in sochi in sochi at the same time, armenia is convinced that he chose the american option. here's what you say. this breaks the contract. yes, i can only say one thing about this armenia is doomed without russia. i do not believe that pashinyan does not understand this, if pashinyan, nevertheless less understanding it will agree to the american plans. and in general, go under america . this once again confirms that this person does not give a damn about armenia, does not give a damn about the armenian people, does not give a damn about everything that has to do with this, which will not surprise me. you are my attitude towards pashinyan. you know, i consider an armenian a person who declared and wrote that our ancestors

themselves were to blame for the genocide, my great-grandmother, whom i remember very well, survived the genocide, this horror and tragedy, and well, you yourself are armenian. do you understand what i speak for an armenian. well, it's like the jews would say that the jews themselves are to blame for the holocaust . some posh villa in miami california please, but i want ours it will lead to pr- to our problems. it won't work. you and i, russians, we have one motherland well , i definitely have one motherland russia, i’m worried about what will be kherson, what will happen to crimea, what will be e from his own, when all this ends here, just the citizens of armenia, especially the people who voted for this person, should understand that without russia there will be no armenia, not that armenia will not have any karabakh . who stopped this so

-called forty-four-day war. who stopped her stopped putin vladimir vladimirovich personally. and america, under which, uh, the current armenian government is trying to put armenia just not like a carcass so stuffed. so waving at the same time russia but i'm like here uh, but well, how are you didn’t lift a finger, didn’t lift a finger, turkey, which, of course, acted on the raw material of azerbaijan, they are partners, and so on, a nato country that america, as the leading force in nato, could not come and say such hello garage. what are you talking about , and we are from armenia, we support california, there are a lot of armenians in california. kim kardashian hasn't done anything with us, at all. okay, it's up to them . i can't understand the armenians who live in armenia. no, they don't understand, they are blind. here are the people who are for pashinyan and continue to believe him and continue to believe that for the border will help us in the person of america france whom will it help? they lost a lot of dear

hearts, all the armenians living in armenia, not only those living in armenia in karabakh, would have lost everything, if it weren’t for putin, they don’t understand, they don’t understand it. well, it means that he said so, vladimir vladimirovich yesterday we will not impose we will go like this, that means that this is how washington your cardboard agreement provides that all of karabakh will pass to azerbaijan. this means that well, i’m even silent about what will happen to the armenian population and so on. will be the outcome, what is it? i'm not talking about that now. i’m talking about the fact that, well, at least it means that there will be withdrawn russian troops, and the next one will be the russian base, and the next one will be that we are talking about the existence of armenia. how will the state know from history books, and our children will know about it, as we now know from history textbooks that once there was a great country urartu then great armenia tigran the great once 100 years ago they blew it

igor sergeyevich it turns out in our interests, yes, if our peacekeepers leave there, our base is an option that the americans will come there. uh, coming or not coming for the americans is not the most important thing for the americans. the most important thing now is to tear armenia away from russia and organize a hot spot beyond the caucasus near our borders. and let me remind you that mr. pashinyan came to power. as a result of the color coup, whoever organizes the color coups in all is well, we know him and set him up to carry out these tasks. and the fact that pashinyan needs to destroy armenia for this well sorry, zelensky is now destroying ukraine. so i don’t see anything surprising here. in this regard, we need to talk here not about the pashinians, but just about the americans and the western neat ones, it sounded here that they were crazy there, something else absolutely disagree . they act. very

pragmatically you gave at the very beginning of the program. e. president putin's statement that there are two ways out of the crisis, but in the same place it was not about the crisis in ukraine, it was about the global crisis. quite right, and ukraine is only hot manifestation of this crisis, and what he said, what kind of crisis is the crisis. this is due to the fact that western civilization as a whole is losing its five-century dominance. and putin offered them two options, either let's go hard, but agree that the whole world will get out of this situation with the least losses, or all the problems that the westerners will go to peacefully agree on the body of their hegemony. let me remind you that great britain went to the organization of two world

wars in order to save its hegemony in western world, and this was only one of the british empire and here about the west as a whole, respectively, their behavior. here are the conflicts along our borders in the baltic states will now be in transnistria and so on and so on everywhere and everywhere, respectively, their behavior. uh, well, ukraine is all this. hmmm dirty bomb. they need to inflict as much damage as possible on russia, they said the strategic defeat of russia is their only chance to maintain their dominant position. what the army can't do we see that it won't hold everything. it is obvious. so you need to raise stakes and move on to that very americans' favorite, indeed, limited nuclear war, because that would weaken the eu. and for that matter, no, that's fine, but it would deal a huge blow to our

side. and here the most important thing is for them to understand that the limited nuclear war will not be limited when we forced them to throw this concept into the trash, because they understood that we hit washington. and i think that when shoigu called, he did not tell them about what was being prepared there. they cook it themselves. he explained to them what will happen to them, what if they do it that's exactly right, and then there were those teachings. thank you for everything i want to say. and i agree. as far as armenia is concerned, i absolutely agree, yes, if it suddenly chooses this american one out of two options at a price. actually, the agreement is there or whatever it is called, then this will 100% lead to the fact that our peacekeepers will leave there with all the ensuing consequences for nagorno-karabakh and for the people who live there, they will be forced to leave. it's run it will come to the fact that the russian military base will also leave there. and this means that armenia is small, armenia will be left face to face with turkey and

azerbaijan, and how will all this end? i think there is no need to explain, but at the same time, pashinyan makes a statement that it seems to be no, let's wait. there is very little time left, let's see which option. he will accept, and in this case in moscow it remains only to accept, the decision that will be approved by the armenian people. as our president said, let's see, as far as the global collision is concerned, of course, of course, and absolutely agree. and i think that we sent these signals on the topic of what will happen tomorrow, so that they a little bit, as they say, pulled themselves together, and stopped going this way. well , in many respects about how it will be about how the situation will develop depends. and from how the situation in the ukrainian direction will develop, therefore, we have only one single option so that nothing comes to this global catastrophe, it is also necessary to win in the ukrainian direction exactly and then and then maybe they will stop actually muddying the waters in tajikistan in kyrgyzstan in uzbekistan in

kazakhstan in moldova in armenia in azerbaijan and so on, that is, in the entire post-soviet space of another option. we just don't have. so tnank you. once again everyone see you in a week in this studio. remember that all participants in our program have their own truth, but we will always get to the bottom of the truth. lenin reassembled the russian empire and, most importantly, launched the processes of world decolonization, the bolsheviks gave the russian civilization and people a new development project. they created a new reality that was in the interests of the majority of the working-peasant population of russia, political kiev decided to swear allegiance to the white master to the white european master, committing the judas sin of the european choice and making all the colonized naive, kiev wanted to get an entrance ticket to the number of colonialists in nato to the european union without knowing that the white lords will never

accept them as equals. i would venture now to draw one analogy, we often compare a special military operation with the great patriotic war with the second world war, but let 's put hand on heart until it's quite. so it may be fortunate that while this is not quite, so some associations and outlines are visible, however, in essence. we are still dealing with other events. if in fact, then we, of course, have quite a civil war. yes, officially walking from 1918 to 1920. well, in fact, it ended much later, at least 2 years later, it happened, by the

way, not just in the same landscapes. well, it took place a civil war, well, in ukraine and also in the crimea, but with the direct predecessors of those who today brought to ukraine all these skoropads, all these petlyurs, the germans standing behind them. here they are in new roles now. but there is one significant difference with those events. then the reds were in power. and we have, well, as it were, so to speak, rather white, well, it’s definitely not red, as it were, russia, who defeated the white, is now solving the ukrainian problem, referring to the fact that the bolsheviks once solved it not entirely correctly and now outweigh again. we have now, as expected. whites have capitalism. there is there is a tricolor church, it's good, and there are oligarchs. it's not very good. there are, in short, all the pros and cons of laziness. we don't have stalin, we don't have trotsky. we don’t have frunze either, but since november 7, we will very soon remember in this

context how it was then and what we have now recently. i will not hide it, commander-in-chief vladimir vladimirovich putin pleased me. i don’t know about you, but personally i was very pleased with vladimir vladimirovich putin in his speech on the 1.160th anniversary of our statehood in novgorod, he said not just important, but what he himself has suffered, you know, i either entered into this text, then crossed out such names as nicholas ii lenin stalin apparently, not so many historical points of view have passed the time in order to give full-fledged objective assessments devoid of the current political situation. but all of them are statesmen , war workers, pioneers, learned ascetics and saints. and most importantly, the message of our people made russia a great world power and determined its fate. i've

been waiting for these words for so long, my position on words. putin is extremely simple, and he ventured to say aloud that nicholas ii lenin and stalin made russia a great power. this means that all three were sovereigns. putin, it seems to me, is stopping the civil war, my aesthetic and social choices, it’s known, then he would have ended up on the side where the lenins, stalin. they are where the kerrinsky and provisional governments and all these freemasons who betrayed their king which now for some reason personify for some the great russia that we have lost. i would be where you were yesenin sergei and mayakovsky vladimir, they are where the writers bunin and zaitsev turned out to be, excellent writers, by the way, as well as philosophers ilyin and berdyaev, but this does not mean that my love and my pain are about the fate of the poet and the warriors of the white army. nikolai toroveru or a writer and a white guard. gaito-gazdavanov is more than my love for the crocodile

gaidar or mikhail shokhov, and, of course, nicholas ii does not interfere with me among the names named by putin. but for some reason, stalin is very disturbing to some lenin, as soon as they start talking about ukraine right away in parallel, stalin is also remembered as the creators of independent ukraine, it seems that any child knows that independent ukraine began to be created after the liberal bourgeois february revolution of 1917 and existed exactly until the lenin bolshevik detachments destroyed all this petliura separatist independent quasi-statehood, therefore in present-day ukraine, lenin is so hated and monuments to him are brought down, because he killed their independent ukrainian statehood in the bud, and in the next time independent ukraine arose already in 1991 after another liberal-bourgeois

revolution and through the fault of gorbachev and yeltsin, who in today's ukraine have no complaints, but everything seems to be clear and transparent, but for some of us it is incomprehensible and not transparent. but then we will explain again. i remember what lenin was very briefly and very clearly told by the right-wing publicist, ideologist and wonderful kingdom of heaven, alexander ivanovich kazintsev. lenin said kazintsev in 1917 showed the world that it was possible to defy to the white gentleman, for the chinese, indians, africans , asians, latin americans, the inhabitants of oceania, for all the colored, grimy, humiliated and insulted, it was a shock. it was a religious revelation, the white gentleman always believed that the russian. they are also not white. they are white, these russians by

misunderstanding. actually. they are colored grubs and certainly do not have the right to dispose of their too rich land, which a white master should actually do when they say that lenin destroyed the russian empire. this is, of course, lenin rebuilt the russian empire and, most importantly, launched the processes of world decolonization, four other empires collapsed under lenin, while he hemmed the fallen territories in soviet russia with extraordinary energy, and then in the next few decades, white gentlemen from london from rome from paris from madrid catastrophically lost to the colored and grimy, losing their colonial acquisitions. this is all lenin when they strive to marry lenin for a century with marxist theory. this is only partly true lenin miro