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cars, which means that the culprit of the accident deliberately risked other people's lives . ntv.ru. and i'm valeria gavrilovskaya thank you for your attention. good luck and stay on it. dear comrades your raven, what is dangerous for russia too strong friendship with the turks energy will be exported to europe through us will ankara without erdogan be as accommodating as it is now, i will support anyone who professes islam and
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what to do in moscow if all the middle eastern partners quarrel among themselves now is not the time at all. become russia's nickname about it today in our program. hello, this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear and andrey norkin my colleague ivan trushkin. we are working live , dear comrades, heroes of our today's uh conversation. in the literal sense, dear comrades, like good good friends, but you can put quotation marks to the whole expression by the way, dear comrades by the word, in general, interpret differently, but one has to, like everything else, however, in life it is always obvious that in the last days. for our country, the turkish president became the main political figure, and erdogan, the turks, of course, made the biggest contribution to the renewal. in this grain deal, in general, in everything
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connected with this story, what exactly they did we don't know, but at least not yet. maybe we'll find out sometime. but the fact that the turks were the most important there. this is obvious, because vladimir putin over the past few days has repeatedly i mentioned this is how she is. you remember that she said that erdogan was a man of his word, and now i am in valdai when i told you. a consistent and reliable partner, although not an easy one, and the president of turkey has been talking about vladimir putin for the past few days, explaining that western leaders do not understand how to behave with putin, they make a mistake. so here it is, talking with putin although according to erdogan. some have begun to learn some lessons and are ready to change their minds a little. he meant olaf highway, what i didn’t know specifically yet, but still turkey is now really number one. that is, we have, as we said, uh, lately our strategic partner or , after all, here’s a friend, comrades, brother, let’s see, vladimir putin has become the only
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world leader whose leader turkish president erdogan mentioned in his keynote speeches dedicated to on the centenary of the creation of the republic, erdogan spoke about joint plans to create a gas hub in turkey and distribute russian gas in europe you have heard the recent statements of mr. putin we hope that there will be gas? to enter europe through turkey as part of the turkish flow, these agreements are the result of diplomacy in the truest sense of the word, and erdogan agreed on the construction of putin's gas hub two weeks ago, russia through this hub can supply the same volumes of gas that went through the northern streams, and turkey will receive income for transit construction road map. they promise to draw up by the end of the year, but the turks are already trying receive dividends. so ankara asked for a decent gas discount of 25%. turkey, with its accessible sea routes and proximity to our ports, is also becoming an important transport hub in
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novorossiysk, a new platform for receiving large turkish vapors is about to open. each can carry up to 100 furris, with istanbul becoming the main hub for passenger traffic to most countries. russia exports mineral fertilizers, metals, food and agricultural raw materials, chemical products through turkey. in turkey, it has become the largest platform for parallel imports of western goods into our country began to request auto parts requests increased, ah many times over , uh, and this is not from a single company. these are from different companies. after that, it was just a mix up. these are some kind of convector radiators. e compressors. that is, it’s just that it’s coming, an additional bonus is coming and turkey has been given a grain deal , according to the turkish ministry of defense, since august, more than 9 million tons of wheat, corn, barley grain have been transported on 48 ships, with a 25% discount on
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turkey also negotiated grain from kiev, but the deal is beneficial to ankara not only finances. while russia is at war with ukraine, turkey is increasing its global ambitions and foreign policy goals, positioning itself as a key link between asia and europe and the middle east for the countries of central asia and china, turkey's rise as a eurasian power provides greater access to european and world markets without the participation of russia, another area of ​​russian turkish cooperation nuclear energy, rosatom specialists will arrange for coast of the mediterranean. nuclear sharks plan to launch it in 2023, the century of the turkish republic and at a meeting on october 13, putin and erdogan discussed the construction of a second nuclear power plant in sinop on the black sea coast, two nuclear power plants
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will be able to cover 20% of turkey's electricity needs. at the same time, the turkish side does not invest a single lira, which is being built at the expense of a russian loan. the facility is worth more than $20 billion russia provides funding for the construction design, maintenance and operation, while turkey guarantees only the purchase of electricity. first i'll ask, but all sorts of laughers. it’s okay to have a holiday tomorrow, so here are the laughers, that’s why i turn to you as a serious specialist, we didn’t get too close to our turkish friends, quietly, we continue to get closer, uh, and all the talk about the hub. they are just plans for now, and so that they will be implemented more
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it will take time, and time passes quickly and so you can get to the dates of the uh elections in turkey next summer, but already only talk. they still benefit both erdogan and how he endures us back, and russia has proved that in any case it can supply gas to europe, only they will pay more for it. when so many ways of all kinds of both grain and parallel imports are closed to turkey, and, in fact, to the will of one of its rulers, this is not a risky story, because all people in general, if you look separately in parallel , their production is excellent, grain through resources is also good through turkey yes excellent excellent selling. uh, when it all turns out such a single picture, it turns out that the keystone is here's just one, and he can somehow and can't just yes, and you and other serious specialists. i
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do not consider here different gullers. yes seriously. yes, yes, it’s all been repeatedly warned that mr. erdogan is such a person who will instantly turn over just 180 ° when it happens to him. and now we, like vadim. quite right, he says, we give him almost everything in the world and this is our gas and grain and something else there? yes, it’s true, as putin said, a completely reliable partner, but difficult, and besides moreover, these same elections that are running out of erdogan, and they can generally change, uh, the palette of turkey itself in a radical way, and here uh. russia has serious gaps. in my opinion, because knowing erdogan's irritability about communicating with any lord, these risks are insured. just
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in order to hedge, it may be necessary to communicate and develop relations with other political forces in turkey. but this is practically impossible now. with such a close partnership between russia and turkey, the risks are great, but in the zone we entered the risks 8 months ago, and they are only increasing. it’s good that there is turkey, it’s good that there is, turkey it’s good, of course, but how much good , i’ll say it so regretfully, not that there are risks, they actually exist, there are always a little more of them it is unfortunate that, in general, world politics has degraded so much, especially in the west, that erdogan is the only big politician with whom you can talk erdogan, turkey is the only state with which we can do business today at a colossal risk. well, the only thing. we are now
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we will talk about nato blocs in this one. naturally. i say, now it is possible to talk in hungary in general, but until recently we thought that serbia could do it. you know what the point is. i don't take it now. i don’t take the east, iran is there, uh, and china’s india, wait. you somehow globally , uh, began to complain that, unfortunately. no, well, well, really globally everything is somewhat decorative in the west - this is the basis. as you can see next. these risks will increase. yes, i see the situation, so erdogan, the politician is not reliable or or i will say as follows, that is, the president. i do not agree, let's do it so as not to argue with the president, i will say. it is reliable as long as in our hands there is not only a carrot, but also a whip. and now, you understand, it is regrettable that we, entering into relations with turkey now, do not actually have a whip, but the economic situation has a whip.
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you know, in this case, in this context, in the context of the russian-ukrainian conflict, erdogan will not lose at all in any e in any, that means under no scenario. here the king is torn the deal will not fail, he will either gain a lot, or at least lose nothing. he will still show his own what you want, he is interested in what we are what, well, how to say that erdogan has, uh, we have? but no. well, yes, i apologize. well, you, well , an expert, i'm sorry, he has two large burrows . and both in syria he has idlib, which, in which case , can explode simply with huge images of the military and pieces of questions about what you are there, you do n’t tell me about food, i’m just a strong trump
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, using which he puts a little pressure on us. sorry this. that's something strange with you as soon as you moved to the other side changed. wait wait just start. well, we showed how the bombing starts. looked like sorry at this point, since very much was like this. and what did he do under the influence of these bombings. is he syria or what is the negotiating position? on many issues, this is the first thing he is fundamentally everywhere. uh. here in general, and as a whole, he has always achieved his goals of not being occupied by terrorists until now. there he uses them to put pressure on us. and it can be just bonuses for years, at least within
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the country. i'm not arguing with you about the economy. well, why are you saying things that you clearly do not understand, now i just see, i'm sorry, i declare they asked. excuse me please, we got all the issues we needed, as soon as the kursk a arose the problem escalated. as soon as the problems that only we could resolve were crap, and in the triangle of russia and turkey it was, as they say, why regulate? they do not want to carry out the operation, they want to bomb the water. we let him do it it takes short. sorry, he is the same whip that they were talking about here exactly the problems, as soon as turkey starts losing in the
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kursk regions at this moment rectal problems are embarrassed very sure that wait no, just for some reason let me now anton we will pass the word to cook. it’s just that if we have some kind of such a whip, then, well, i don’t know, for some reason it seems to me that it was made exclusively from turkish materials. and here he is. well, not much is said about chickpeas on television. no, it's okay okay. it means that your colleagues sounded afraid, let's look at our program and no, there was nothing wrong with strong friendship, in my opinion , but in general friendship is either strong or it is not needed, which means that in relation to the relations of countries, probably, the term friendship should be used in general not worth it. there are pragmatic relations in terms of
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state interests, obviously and this is also visible. yes, what is there between putin and erdogan warm enough personal relationship, but something personal attitude. this is such a small plus to pragmatic relationships. when we say, here we give everything, it means erdogan 25% of that, here we allow it to beat, but this is one bowl of sheets, and the other bowl of the scales are the risks on which erdogan went and from the point of view of the same parallel and import of the implementation of the continuation of the implementation our major russian projects. by the way, again, were we laughing with his sergey lying down? what only, but only you, and what is only thick, so we get paid. so this is a capture of the energy market, in fact, a project to put them on the hook - we put them on a needle and, strictly speaking, it means that they are constantly under energy for us. if you translate into such a language, you are very cynical and pragmatic, therefore, here is the question that you ask ivan sergeevich but
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is it not bad that it’s very close to turkey where everyone else closes so many key points. i would about it there are risks there, but they need to keep in mind that it is yes. these are mutual risks and the erdog is also very risky, this is a fig. everything, they say, actually shows a figure to the west. do n’t you understand, yes, like a nice thing, but this is a highlighting element, where for an atomic electrochayshit he will be an erdog again on points two or three times, in general, he risks his position with his place, because it is obvious that he shows a figure. that's the way to the west, that the west will do everything that is actually an election, of course, of course. but by the way, i think that erdogan has a fairly high chance of getting over. and let's stop now. yes, we are now until the materials are relatively re-elect him. your national unity day will be discussed for the third time because of you, by the way, because there is such a simple logic,
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they say, as long as erdogan is at the head of turkey, there is friendship with russia . and when erdogan, if there is no erdogan, this friendship will not exist either. well , i don’t know how true this is, let’s watch the plot. in august , inflation in turkey was more than 80 percent , bloomberg estimated that prices were in the richest city in the country. istanbul almost doubled in a year and this is not the biggest growth yet, for example, inflation. in the turkish energy sector, even higher, the lira is practically in free fall and has lost more than a quarter of its value against the dollar in a year, but president erdogan has his own view on the fight against inflation, the turkish central bank. contrary to the advice of world economists. all these economic roundabouts reduce the key rate, we notice that the support of the population is clearly not increasing. how does the attitude towards him change? previously, he was more supported, but now the level of trust in the president has fallen sharply, the dollar of 18 liters has risen to 11 the main problem is the political country is
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run by people who do not understand anything in the economy. the falling economy only spurred the efforts of the authorities to rally the conservative part of society, so erdogan proposed to enshrine in the constitution the rights of women to freely wear the hijab at universities, schools and government institutions. turkey is a secular country and for a long time the hijab was banned, but thanks to erdogan, it began to actively return. we hope that our proposals for an amendment to the constitution will be accepted. it won't happen. we are ready to take other steps, including a referendum. and if we do not get the necessary majority in parliament , our people will have the final say. and this is not the first step towards the conservatives, in 2020 erdogan turned hagia sophia into a mosque. although before that, for almost a century, the fence was a museum, where they kept the memory,
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including the times of orthodoxy, now the great christian saints are hung with a cloth. this decision gave us back our mosques. we support him. we support president erdogan in his decisions, which benefits our country and we hope for more you want to say that you support this decision and support president erdogan. i practice islam and i will support anyone. who serve islam, but there is also a significant part of the population that the traditional erdogan bias annoys. these people prefer more liberal. well, the mayor of istanbul, according to polls, the rating of his parties came close to the ruling synadug party. there, you charge me from them. turkey as erdogan is a situational partner for us, maybe even in something a friend sometimes. and turkey is mediocre right there without erdogan. it will be very very bad. and lena correctly said that we are not building some kind of
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alternative relations with his opponents. it's too late, it's impossible. and if we now suddenly try to build relations with his opponent. this will cause such an emotional reaction from erdogan. eh, you really shouldn’t even think about it, but wait for the turkish elections. they are not just in the summer, they are june 18 june 18 is the anniversary of waterloo here the topic seems to be erdogan napoleon or the duke of wellington. i don’t know, maybe everything will be bad for him, then for our relationship. we’ll just be surprised, grab our heads, how it all will collapse. well, let's say it remains, and therefore now i'm talking about why bring down maksitovich? here explain if all these projects are rather beneficial to turkey tragé, as a state in terms of money, the source of another president, why should all these projects be stopped if these people have ambitions, they are completely ah. we single-handedly distribute russian gas throughout
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what's wrong with europe? you understand how but and the americans, the europeans will find much more to offer erdogan's successor. well, for example, that they have such an attractive thing that this italian has developed between putin and erdogan. it 's really in many ways thanks to them e i don't understand, i'm trying to understand the word won't. why why let's victor doesn't say anything. you also think that everything will collapse, you understand, russian tourists will stop going there. i already said, but the turks, uh, will lose interest. uh, earn our let's say there difficulties because yes. yes, we are now in the situation with vanga pot , including with regard to international relations, look at two options. erdogan stays. this is a better option for russia, because the system of relations that has developed between moscow and ankara. to one
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degree or another, these special relations will continue, as maxim rightly noted, but at the same time, turkey will increase its influence in the transcaucasus. let me remind you that without turkish direct support, azerbaijan would not have dared to take those actions, to which he decided, and this may eventually lead to an exit, armenia for an accident is already a certain movement. in this direction, something dangerous for russia is happening, secondly, turkey will continue to strengthen its positions in the countries of central asia and, in general, strengthen its influence in the black sea region. this is the first moment the second moment, by the way, there are also potential moments in syria. uh, which can be dangerous for russia, but this is a separate issue, the second second option if erdogan loses uh next summer, elections in turkey this is much very bad for russia. worse option, because everything is about what. i just said before it will
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continue and the strengthening of turkey's influence in central asia and the caucasus, but at the same time, the positive that has developed in recent years, in relations between russia and turkey, those special economic relations, there are no turkish sanctions against russia, a special position turkey in the nato bloc and the fact that turkey e promotes dialogue between russia and western countries. and the fact that turkey is there certain and others all of this, can go away very quickly, whether it can go away or it will definitely go away , you know, it won't happen. so, some new leader will come. why the new people will not want to stop the alternative, it will not be so abrupt that a new leader will come, and immediately russian tourists will stop going there and immediately turkey is carrying out massive sanctions, then no. this is usually done. everything is very gradual. yes, somewhere somewhere will give up the idea of ​​gas. haba too. yes, very briefly. you fucking in a nutshell if
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why even the idea of ​​a gas hub, which was announced by putin and erdogan. she, including from the point of view of pr, she helps erdogan russia , for the reasons i have indicated, is interested in erdogan winning, i don’t understand, but why? but why are you both sure that all that any turkish projects will be screwed? come on . why isn't everything so simple, for example, which syria is easy to take a position on, uh, the turkish opposition in syria was very difficult for us with erdogan. and russia's goal is for turkey to leave the north syria and the north-east of syria and to restore the territorial unity of this country, where the russian military bases are located, and i will tell you that the position of the people's republican party, for example. it is much better than erdogan's position in terms of the brain, which is
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the corner and and many other oppositionists. they are now ready to enter the coalition, and we are in istanbul there, ready to enter this issue is being discussed. they call for the withdrawal of the turkish troops of siri without any bargaining. they say that it was a mistake, that turkey has nothing to do there, that deal with the issue of refugees from syria in a completely different way. that is, if we take, for example, the syrian problem, then here the opinion of moscow and the opinion of the turkish opposition, it coincides with another matter, that we are not looking for these approaches. well, of course, there is an unclean coincidence. yes, not clean, not because of a wrinkle. this time, however, you tell me about tomatoes. tell about the tourists the new president is not erdogan, and he says fu does not need to do erdogan. yes, i need russian gas, your discount, and now erdogan is turkey's dependence on russian gas. planned. decreased e-e from 60% to 505, according to
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some data, now it is already 50%, e, and even less in the total share of turkish imports. this trend does not depend on who is in power in turkey, there may be opposition. well, just speed up, as he said, and the turks will find something to offer, so that they stop being, they refuse these special relations. that the first thesis will not be able to with russia, that the turks will find something to offer, if you had something to offer to the turks better than russia can give , then it would have been long before the new erdogan and completely different cost. here, in fact, in addition to joining the eu, finally, what is possible. this is not something that can be offered at all, because at least i see it, because it was 30 years ago, yes, now, how would it be few people are really interested in it, which means that the first means as much as ours definitely, but the victory of erdogan’s opponent, what i believe in is
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unconditional, well, let’s not say these warm relations worsen on a personal level, but as for real economic connections. you understand addiction level. and turkey's russia and turkey from russia only grew over the years and also said this a little. no, i agree such risks, but this is a little different, you understand, turkey, unlike germany a catastrophic problem with the economy with inflation with all other things, here a man comes new after erdogan. here he is, what a fool, and cutting everything means a bitch on which he sits and everything is so bad. family people are coming. you know, there was one such character that you really like. and you're drowning him to come back. back to the police jones instead of him came a woman who says, so let's abolish taxes. well, something like that, the woman worked for a month and a half. yes , a man came after her, he says. no, let's pick it up, yes, it
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means the first of november. i have read that the conservative parties have begun to discuss the issues of introducing sunako. here he was not trusted. these fools will look at all this. here drove through these short terms. so 50 times is not a trifle. yes, but here you can't. here, no, you can’t go to extremes, it’s obvious that there will be deterioration, there, new problems will appear, but at the same time. even the short-term to medium- term give up mutually beneficial cooperation. why would it be asking what, because here i would like to get such a more or less hmm clear answer tourist we need to continue. this is how we are working now, maybe even somehow increase our investments. here in this to turkey in the turkish direction without fear of absolutely no political changes in the material of the police. let 's take one single speed in turkey in general,
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may not be very good. uh, not very, very important, we don't know. how much will be allowed. what will be the tourism departures from russia and so on. everything can. it is very fast tourists are operating from russia due to uh moreover, nobody from russia now is that tourists are not resting in russia but in turkey this is for us. now we have problems to rest, southeast asia well, yes, yes, yes, work to ensure that tourists stay. here they rested at a resort, the krasnodar territory, and so on, but in a good way. yes, i will return to the thesis of a colleague says, that the fool is the new one who goes no, not a fool. uh, how schultz is not a fool, how macron is not a fool and not fools, in general, all those to whom the united states did not offer anything to demand that they abandon mutually beneficial relations with russia, but they did it because there is no political will. so it was about. concepts in turkey give an agreement, but
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these are people, and do not have political will. i know these people. i was recently at an event organized by them to resolve the syrian crisis in istanbul, this was organized by the kimalists. here those people whom you showed in the story, the word of russia was not heard there. there were even kurds there. it is generally allergic to the word kurds in turkey, but there was an american who, with the pkk and the kurdistan workers' party, was recognized as a terrorist in turkey by that power of photography of a sea of ​​\u200b\u200bplots, and she was in istanbul at the invitation of the republican people's party. and we wouldn’t be there and wouldn’t, that is, why do i say this to the authorities, not having political will, but it is extremely dependent on the united states they will cut the suk on which antonchik is sitting when germany and france decided to refuse
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cooperation with russia you get nothing in return. this is the rich man from what antonovich told us . they have a cushion layer, fat, and so on, they can. how much now, with what is happening in turkey and the economic problems that there are, there are no fat conditions on how to play unity and democracy there. that is why, as anton valeryevich told you they are in my favor. it’s just that he has what he loses, you understand to wait, as germany is doing now, what is happening now in continental europe is suicide. and the fact that they had fat. this says something about the fact that for years they actually didn’t really work hard to increase this fat. while turkey really does everything for years so that independence falls and elena is absolutely right. they are working to export their armaments of roses, and it is growing. here they are selling their weapon drones, just to see
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how many 300 million they have. what are we talking about here say, he is known in comparison or lihaba, before the beginning of oni. well, when the main thing is that the axis from the west against evgenievich can still do the same, but what he says, in part, in general, he clearly does not make ends meet. after all, look. i am perfect, while you are walking. and about a second, i 'll show you why you don't need to show you don't need to. just tell me as you say, so be it. so the first, of course, the issues of economic relations with russia will be one of the central ones and erdogan will pull it out as one of the central problems election campaign, and he will show that those who criticize this case are cutting the bitch that turkey is sitting on those who
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criticize erdogan. will have to show. what is their program in solving the most difficult economic problems of turkey uh-huh, and in this situation it will be necessary to show what they will do with energy. a pay attention. of course, i don’t understand anything, but look where nuclear power plants are being built. they are built just in the centers of electoral support. specific straight american templates argument, here, the second. he says, we are not only talking about russian gas, erdogan says, we are becoming a hub for azerbaijan for iran and for russia this is his gas, which i am his gas, which he is going to two. this means that he needs russia's foreign policy support in
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order to find some kind of something that awaits them in a stable situation and energy, in contrast to all the outrages that are in europe, yes, i ’ll increase you, just to the maximum. we have some kind of very blissful picture when we we say interdependence is already more interdependence. we depend on turkey much more than one of the last. in general, turkey is one of the last outlets for us to the outside world, and they don’t use it, therefore, but erdogan, in fact, listen to this grain deal, no one has any questions, to be honest, there are no questions. here , in all honesty, it arises. i’ll tell you about some of them, at least now, how it all started so effectively on our part. we are suspending participation in the grain deal. this pathos was enough for 4 days. after erdogan. moreover, i found some arguments that we
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crawled away, we these arguments, at least once it only drives off, which means that the arguments the point is, what does it mean, how could he what arguments erdogan could find, i don’t know plus him what these arguments are were not public and that's what i think they appreciate, but they were very convincing. i guess guess. maybe he just refused. what will you do, how will you get out of the deal. here, civilians will come here in the turkish flag. you will attack civilian ships. here's the truth when your fleet is locked in sevastopol cannot enter the black sea. and i think he found such arguments that he really proved that here, then, we returned the monkey. listen, you really. believe in ukrainian guarantees. no, they allegedly received some kind of guarantee, only ukrainians. the same as during the time of the
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us in saudi arabia, wonderful wonderful prospects from iran. everything was fine with us a couple of weeks ago, too. well, yes, yes, and here, really, here it is necessary to make a sadness that this is exclusively american information, some kind of unpleasant moment happened, the americans say that iran is about to attack saudi arabia. let's take a look anyway. after the journal followed her and asasha, this press, citing an unnamed american source, reported that riyadh was expecting an attack by tehran and allegedly asked for help from the united states of saudi arabia itself, these rumors have not yet been commented on, but cnn , citing its sources, reports, that american fighters in 22, located in saudi arabia, are already ready to face any threats. iran is ready to attack kingdom and ervil in iraq to divert attention from domestic protests that engulf the country in september,
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iranian foreign ministry officials on sarqa denied the message of the western press on it, but the flywheel has already been launched, some publications. now they write that on november 1 in iran, the red banner was raised over the dome of the john koran mosque. the last time such a red flag was raised was in 2020 after the assassination of the iranian general by the commander of the special forces, qasem soleimani, the united states regarded this, as a threat and promised strong responses. i think you have seen how we use different tools when it comes to countering iran's malign influence in the region. we applied sanctions. the us military was involved in the interception of weapons. we will use all appropriate tools to counter this threat. escalation in the middle east is possible for russia not into the hands of iran's support has become a powerful tool against western sanctions officials from moscow tehran regularly report on new
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agreements and declare their determination to develop partnerships. well, the saudis, in turn, agreed to reduce oil production as part of the plus facility deal. despite all the requests and even threats from the americans, it may be that the comrades quarreled so much that american doubts about e american information are ready to fight or all bite. even this is dangerous, for sure he will tell in more detail about the red flag. e above the mosque, but indeed in january 2020, after the assassination of general qassiam soleimani , this red flag was raised there, but it it also rises and often for other reasons, but for reasons, because it is connected in general with the history of islam with the history of shia muslims, when in the seventh century i was treacherously killed, i believe greco and so on, but not not, because, well, i just want to save time, moscow is developing relations from saudi arabia with iran, and we said that this is a good informational provocation, so that,
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as always, it is an informational provocation, and it is done in order to, well, at least change the policy a little saudi arabia to try to tie it back to the united states of america. this is just such an information-political or history, or it can really become money. let not today, not in the next 24 hours, as some american agencies said, when iran and saudi arabia clash somewhere, well, the middle east is a minefield. here you always want some kind of guarantees 100% saudi arabia must understand that we are moving. that's why minefield russia is now very professional manages to build relationships with those of the others, but one must understand that, despite these american slanders. the iranians, for example, have contacts even now with the us americans for good reason. there, prisoners at the age of 80 from iran returned to america having iranian origin, but
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there are american citizenship contacts between washington and the general not without reason, israel and lebanon have now signed an agreement on the demarcation of the border in the area where they can have gigantic reserves on the sea shelf gas without the usa and without iran without their behind-the-scenes participation, this did not work out, therefore, the struggle is on. a very strong guarantee. here it is impossible to give, however. you remain your former ones. if conflict starts. we have to take sides here. or we should step back, look at this from afar as far as possible and persuade everyone to stop here, how we should act on a large-scale conflict between saudi arabia and iran is extremely unlikely, it is unlikely to come to this. moreover, it is not a fact that there will be some serious blows, most likely, nothing of the kind and there will be a certain sabotage. we know for several years, they have been committed against the saudi
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oil oil, uh, honor uh oil infrastructure, and from the side of the houthis in yemen , missiles were launched at saudi arabia by the ship and armed forces, the armed forces of saudi arabia are participating in the yemeni war and, accordingly, near the city which is iran's allies uh, they uh, from time to time strike at that is. well, nothing radically changes. now, as for eating. just in case, here we can be calm and continue to somehow establish ties on the one hand, it is absolutely necessary for russia. it's important now and now more than ever it's important to have a good relationship between tehran and poison and in that case, here's answering your questions directly, if really. yes, uh, some kind of conflict will occur between saudi arabia and iran, it is beneficial for russia to maintain good relations with both sides. and if, uh, something like that
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is even possible, and russia can offer itself in as a mediator, but at the moment this is because the large-scale conflict. i don't really believe either. well enough all the same they there the general borders. no, well, some distance will have to be overcome in order to wait but if a there will still be some attempts to quarrel them. here we need to somehow determine the side or not? here, let's say, well, there i don't know, for sure, what the americans will continue. uh, trying to pit them. so we definitely do not take the side of saudi arabia against iran or sooner against sadovskaya, that is, regardless of what happened, we say guys, let's live together, saudi arabia and iran - it's like some kind of our uncertainty will not conditionally call for crown prince mohamed ben salman to putin by the iranians. now here are the contracts sign a.
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they will arrange for us out. well, yes, i would like to bring some clarity here. i also do not believe in some kind of full-scale war, but i also believe that the basis of these stuffing is unconditional. uh lies real hatred of some saudi arabian iranians then what happened recently in iran, uh, all these protests and so on are associated by many iranians with the activities of saudi arabia of saudi agents, which, by the way, is reflected in the iranian press, the speeches of the iranian military leaders at the level of sira are being made there at the highest level. hints, not even hints, but directly tell the neighbor they say. well , you better be careful. yes, we can take action. what measures? yes, there really are proxies that have shown themselves in action, there is no need to hit backhand, returning to your answer to your questions. what should russia do if the situation gets out of control, which is unlikely, but nothing can be ruled out today. it seems to me, yes, we should in every possible way publicly be above the fight, as today, by the way, the same iran does against us and ukraine
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never. uh, they did not publicly admit that they are supplying pilots with russia and so on. everything is denied as peacefully as possible over the fight and so on. we must also act because they are sanctions. yes, but iran is still a priority after all, the priority is an ally today, who has proved in a word, but in deed, that he is ready to come to the rescue at a difficult hour at the moment, saudi arabia also did. uh, did the act of actually lowering the oil production quotas and so on, but we must not forget that she did this primarily for her own sake and i explained last time. everything for itself, too, for its own sake iran, too, for its own sake . let's add that iran is very much at risk today. how maxim yusin predicted us several programs ago told. uh, netanyaku has become a new example of a minister of israel, and this can, although he has been very familiar to us for a long time and he has an excellent attitude. vladimirovich, this can, in my opinion,
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it can add even more, only a minus. i will explain why it means that the western press is worried about coming to power netonerku supported by rights and ultra religious forces, because it threatens, well, such a new fire in the middle east, the logic is as presented by the western press, israel, led by netanyak. he will not calmly look to the strengthening of iran, how tehran is building the anti -israeli front with the help of the palestinian movement kamaz and syria in the western press write that israel is very angry because of the expansion of military cooperation between iran and syria with russia and predict such. here is a tangle of conflict. until now, it was believed that a bad peace with moscow would allow israel to act in the syrian direction at its discretion, but as it became known quite recently, the assembly sites of iranian drones, which then fall into the hands of russia, are also located in syria, israeli aviation on october 21, has already struck at one of these facilities, located on the territory of the
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airport of the syrian city of dimas in this case, israel, of course, acted in its own interests, and not in the interests of ukraine. but for russia, this does not matter in principle syrian infrastructure with redoubled vigor. so in general, when you then predicted about netanyaku, you said, thank god or fortunately something like that, that is, you are exclusively from the point of view of moscow, of course, he a more comfortable partner than the previous government. ah, in relation to which there was no certainty, by the way, speaking of whether they impose sanctions at all or not, and he is definitely not him, but i think he will not introduce them. it will be that's not in vain you put them together. here in relations with putin, they are somewhat similar. yes, putin has personal contact with netanyahu, and they will agree on everything. i think, yes, he will be tougher on me regarding iran, but he has been in power for so long. yes, he really missed twice once. and so, when he was prime minister for a long time, well
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, something didn’t start with iran, despite all the harsh statements, therefore, i think that they will agree on syria, because the worst thing is when there is no dialogue, as it is now with us with many europeans. you don’t have a dialogue with the americans, there will be a dialogue and he will fly to sochi and quietly talk with putin about something and even a newspaper or a post will not know what they will talk about, and in general, he is a more predictable person in this regard, than those he replaces. i think that nothing bad will happen. and even if between, and somewhere there is another one in the gas sector or the western tree, we have literally a minute left. i would not be very happy, i did not hope that some kind of positive will happen due to a change of power in israel . most likely, most likely, we are just talking about maintaining relations so that there is no deterioration. the most important thing i want to say, and it seems to me, is that all these stuffing of her interference is not in order to play off and arrange new conflicts.
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comrades why do our people still need the image of the king-priest from now on i will be the sole owner. which of the soviet general secretaries am i most dear to ours people have a strong leader, he must be a tyrant , and which of the famous russians could be called the main folk image. this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. we continue and now dear comrades. it’s not as strange as being friendly to us or, as it were , friendly, really, here are the people, we want to complete just such a cycle today. uh, we got a
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dedicated holiday. on november 4, that's all, you really provoked maxim anatolyevich . here, my people discussed all this without you. here you go, if we spoke again yesterday, i forgot the war wording of this unity in some kind of cultural spiritual values. we, in my opinion, not yesterday, not in the previous ones, have never touched. e, as they say the role of the individual in history, but really, if we are talking about the process of uniting the entire nation or nation of peoples in our country. can it be a rod, but a magnet that all this is attracted to by a certain person, a character who is now living, most likely, may have been a long time ago, gone into history. there is such opinion that all russian citizens. they are. a little paternalistic, as if brought up and therefore always drawn to the boss, to the leader
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, to the leader, the tsar, father, it doesn’t matter. that is, this is some kind of ruler who stands over the country. and here he is the only one who can unite everyone is it or not? we will just figure it out now , but let's start with such an analysis of historical characters. here are those who were in, uh, government posts in our country. so let's say in 2008 the russians suggested to name the main personality. in the history of our country, the project was called the name of russia , a vote was arranged on the internet and on television for national symbols. then they chose prince alexander nevsky in the latter he became, created by descendants, a strong centralized russian state, where the people realized themselves as a single whole. and preserved for centuries the memory of alexander nevsky, his exploits were for us moral spiritual support an example of everything, victorious patriotism in 2017 in the crimea
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opened a monument to emperor alexander iii who was called a peacemaker during his reign , russia did not wage a single war a year before that, a giant monument was erected in moscow to the kiev prince vladimir svyatoslavich, who baptized russia in the 10th century and for this was later canonized as a saint. vladimir is considered the founder of russian statehood. he is a generous hospitable sovereign. that is, here he is the very first tsar-priest, who, therefore, now, as we understand it, leads, and has power from god, but the reformers of alexander ii saved the tsar russia from the serfdom of the state. for some reason, it got a lot of attention. as a result, a monument to the emperor to the liberator appeared in moscow with money raised by businessmen. and representatives of the opposition, like boris nemtsov, who actually opened the monument in 2005, he strengthened the russian state, that's a problem. what has not yet been resolved, finally, he created an independent
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justice, however, the russians obviously need other heroes according to the fund, public opinion. already 2/3 of the country's inhabitants positively assess the historical role of ivan the terrible and almost as many would like to see his monument in their city, while the installation of a monument to the formidable in orel in 2016 caused a wave of protests. a year later, another monument to the tsar was opened in alexandrov, vladimir region, but by decision of local authorities. immediately dismantled and sent into exile in one of the moscow squares, activists for 2 years sought the return of the sculpture. the best people are here. ah, he wanted to rebel, the devils rebelled, they didn’t like it and didn’t pass. everything so smooth. as much as we would like, right? so is it really that we all who live in russia, uh, are stretching? well, i don't know the monarch. let's call it that. it doesn’t matter what it’s called, but only it, maybe it’s not
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the case, everything else is absolutely never necessary to say that the people develop their own symbol in a huge ring. these are all symbols that are the result of long, long work, power holding. well, let's say we are partly about it. even spoke in the previous. it can be such a symbol of personality, as it could be should be such a symbol, and it is brought up by the power that holds the people throughout history. it's a very long process, so you can't pull it out, of course. it can't be happening fast. this romanticization of the image takes a very long time. why alexander ii did not become such a symbol was not this long process of romanticizing the image, because there was ivan the terrible. but how do you look? but ivan the terrible was not the brightest time in our history, not the brightest, but those in power needed to without fail to have a king. herod
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, accordingly, it was necessary to monetize his image; his image began to be romanticized. but, if there is a tyrant, how the image is romanticized, it is necessary to somehow justify his actions can only be justified by one great goal, respectively, when the image of peter i ivan the terrible stalin is romanticized, the great church comes to the fore, respectively, this is a more romanticized figure. now, for example, tsar fedorovich why romanticize him? indeed it was normal, respectively, the more people were yesterday. well, a strong hand, the more his image romanticizes. okay. well, wait then england is eighth. leave a nightmarish personality. all of them there are no similarities, in fact, if you do not agree with the first thesis that i voiced that the only one who can unite all of us living in russia is conditionally speaking, monarch yes, but then you say that everyone is drawn to a hard hand so means a hard
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hand unites it. so you just need to find a person with a hard hand for a hard hand. well relatively speaking, it’s mashed, does it mean, wait, said alexandrovich, does it mean that even if now for a long time stubbornly cultivating such a plot about alexander ii, its aromatization will not work, because there is no hard hand, how to oblige it will still work, if there will be a long romanticization. wait like, that is, just what you called, here are the thunderstorms, wait a minute, and peter and stalin are all who, as it were, with whom the country stuck. well, yes, well, if we assume, the same alexander ii argues more there, let's say about central asian campaigns, but it will also be a great conquest. he lost in the same all done lost. you don't leave now, please. you see, any nation, its psychology, its attitude to
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power is formed once in its history and does not change throughout its life. here the russians were formed with such a psychological construct in relation to power. here, i would put it as i say, one conservative professor. he was such vasily katkov. he said that, for a russian , the authorities should torment everything, yeah. in this sense, our attitude to power, it is demanding. in fact , it is absolutely not slavish, it requires the authorities. first, win all the time. she demands from the authorities that she is responsible for everything, and she always demands from the authorities that victory is always ours, the most important one, which is in power, it always unites
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or only under the conditions that there is a difference between personality and the principle of power. here is the principle of power. e in russia, he is always equally simple as e logically has the opportunity all problems. i understood, in short, here we can leonid ilyich, he was here in this in training. no, i just want to say, here is the man who is the most important in power. yes, he always unites or only when he is strong, because when leonid ilyich was okay, in recent years. well, i was already not always enough, as they just didn’t scoff at him. but i don’t remember this, it’s not my time i was born. already when khrushchev was not in power, and then say the years have passed, now look. if you see such a photo, you will definitely write. here damn, what was the present time, yes, but he wasn’t very much, as if such an iron generation would be right to romanticize. one small
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moment that unites the people. the society unites the symbol the symbol of the ruler ivan the terrible the symbol is not the same ivan the terrible who was he has nothing in common stalin who is now who that's how much there is 60 61% for grozny and for the rest it was also, in my opinion, there under 70% voted that he will become this, well, in russia. this is not the same stalin who died in the fifty-third year. this image of steel is distinguished by his descendants. this is not what peter i was about whom we watch from tv screens and talk about peter the great cut through. but to europe, here is a symbol of our thank you , dear konstantin aleksandrovich, do you know why? because the het-director asked me to remind you of one important thing connected with petra - with peter the first. it’s just that today the film distribution of peter i, the last tsar of the first emperor, begins on our television company. holding had little to do with the
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making of this film. here you go to the cinema. look, if, of course, you don’t have time, after a while we will show it on the air, because the rights have been revised anyway, they said so, wait, alexander stalin is not like that. eh, it actually was. in general, they are all such an image absolutely agree with the image, but do not agree at night. you said that when a firm hand, well, you really use the word tyrant, let's not be a firm hand. yes, a hard hand, a hard hand, is justified by great goals. you said no, justified by great results. if you had great goals, but you didn’t achieve anything, your obrus will not be attractive at all under the stalinist image because he set great goals and continued to set small goals, then your results will never be great in terms of your won war. you are once again a restored industry. here, i have reached. it was the soviet people who, despite the terrible war, began
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to live more or less normal, then peaceful construction, which was associated more with khrushchev, then this logic does not work in relation to another image in relation to ivan terrible because if you look at what happened after him, the state collapsed over the course of several 10-15 years, so there is no ideal recipe for unification. what image in the end will be at all it does not work. yes, there is no ideal recipe for a public political state. just as there is no universal recipe for soup, they are all different, which you don’t know the first stalin why do the russian people love them, because they are in the pash of the russian statesman that the people want to get very well, but about ivan the terrible i'll tell you right away. after him, the time of troubles began. therefore, in the people's memory it was clear that the sovereign pacified the boyars. it means that everything was fine with the livonian morden, and then he died and
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the time of troubles of those whom we remembered today, means alexander nevsky peter i ivan the terrible, these are three, in fact, such russian rulers who were largely romanticized thanks to soviet cinema. yes, under josiped stalin , joseph stalin himself is called, but it was still chosen from the great imperial pantheon three people who were elevated to a cult became forever constantly now continue to put here in the top three in the top five among everyone. who is this process of romanticization. eh, it began with the period of leadership of the country, how different then it became. at least in popular culture, maybe alexandrovich will object to us, but let's take a look at the soviet leaders, let's see, in september, the vciom published a study in which respondents identified three of the most prominent personalities of the past, the only figure in the soviet time, ranked in the top three. this is joseph stalin however, this is far from the first poll where
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people never lived with him, those who did not live are increasingly remembered with nostalgia. so back in 2017 poll. the public opinion fund showed that every second russian positively assessed stalin as head of state 20 years ago, there were no more than 40% of them. and for what it is necessary that factories made russia rich warmly speak of the era of leonid brezhnev. and everyday troubles and shortages are remembered less and less , vice versa. first brezhnev decade people call the best time for our country in the 20th century. communism. quieter lived, of course. well, well, it was at the table. well , they were small then, that we understood, well, the shelves were empty in stores to wear such interesting things, there was nothing. yes, not bad, in principle, the time is often remembered, and the short period of the reign of yuri andropov, the former
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head of the state security service and the secretary general. associated among citizens with a strong hand in the fight against parasitism and pinpoint among the party bureaucracy. last year. there were disputes about who to erect a monument on lubyanka square in moscow and the former minister of culture, mikhail jokingly said that it should be a monument to andropov. well, it's a figure. it will be understandable and unifying for the whole society. which monument will be erected on this site is the subject of discussion with the townspeople. i am deeply convinced of this, but the most important thing is that this monument contributes to the consolidation of society. once again, they are straight out of a clump about who is standing there, but why not andropov, for example, who played a greater role in the life of this place than in dzerzhinsky, mikhalych then said that this mikhail borisovich used the formula incorrectly in our country that the image is romanticized. here is a ruler who can do everything stalin fits here andropov comes from happiness, but the former ones don’t fit, so again i don’t
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understand some kind of alexander vladimirovich some universal recipe. look, firstly, what is the objection here? the people loved ivan the terrible from stalin and during his lifetime very much. it is possible to read her keys, when it is enough to remember when ivan the terrible left the settlement for him, means, all the king, dear. come back just come back and then adored. naturally, precisely because the hand is strong, and this is how it should be with us, uh, and moreover, it is naturally always associated with patriarchal unconditional thinking, in general, russia, but all the same. and those who were weak hairdressers did not love, of course. in brezhnev, of course, they still remained, as the weak authorities absolutely change their attitude, but, but the point is, what i'm talking about is that russians in general , all the inhabitants of this country did not know what authoritarianism is, that is, truly directorial a bright rule by authoritarians was drawn by the flow and de gaulle tito and roosevelt and this is probably the best
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ruler in the world and today one has appeared. here, in fact, about putin, of course, they saw a completely new matrix of authoritarianism. there is no such thing as rhetoric and tyranny, because after all ivan the terrible and stalin, as it were, treat him with joy, that’s not gouging, as it was on the one hand, i turn on the other. brezhnev wild, where the collapse of the state, and then it is not clear why lenin, who really loved too, but in love right. i understand you, the only normal leader is the leader. yes, unless he is being honest. this puncture is so clear to your own. yes. i forgot what we were asking, we were asking, just now how thank you to reach. here is the recipe that will fall into the soul of the people in the romanticization of the leader, where he takes, as they say, when our dear historians spoke about the harsh hand of tyranny, and so on, bloodthirstiness. we didn't sound. main word. why are they loved? because in the order of the people? yes it would
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the embodiment of justice. yes, that is, the demand for justice among the people is so great that they are ready to justify, justify and find an explanation for the most simply terrible crime. e about the history of our country. here, in fact. this one is simply justice, if it is implemented, then there will be such a leader, for now, a unifying, unifying leader in our country on the international line on grozny justice. these orders are justice, this is punishment. who is dishonest towards the people? that's what it is what are they waiting for? at my house, there are disputes and disputes with my mother, for example, yes, prostalin, who says, that's the order, so to speak. no , of course, not my mother is young, my mother is 53. she did not find me. she didn’t catch me either, but in her mind, her myth is stalin’s phrase on you. no
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, these are, of course, now people who the leader represents some of their points of view humanity humanity, maybe with some weaknesses, and even being such human vices in the most normal sense of the word alexander ii nicholas khrushchev gorbachev is perceived as a weakling, but they blew everyone perceives him well. they are. i’m just talking about this craving in a hard hand, and here i’m just the first to disagree with nikolai. this is the classic hard hand of the gendarme of europe, but inside the country he kept everyone in a tight rein, and the result, and the score on the scoreboard, in fact. in what form he accepted the country from alexander i and in what form he surrendered it is not clear, whether, naturally, by already, or committed suicide, having drawn in a completely senseless and lost crimean war. and in
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in general, having failed to keep it, then 20 years. they raked everything there, they start another absolutely not hard hand, alexander is soft, calm , liberal. look what you need, in fact, the main holders did. so it is necessary to judge by their deeds, then nikolayevich and, secondly, as a unifying figure. i believe that if it is unifying, then it really should be pushkin gagarin gagarin marshal zhukov, something that does not raise questions from anyone lomonosov mendeleev and then we all share. for me, for example, the highest authority is academician sakarov, but i do not i want to impose it on those who have a different opinion. and those who come to a different opinion, try to make pneumatic steel from their own. yes, it should not be politics there, by the way, let's come here
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. you understand that's what we've heard just now from our respect. maxim you understand what he said about alexander i about nikolaev the first. this is the same as the image of stalin now is his romantic arrangement. alexander the first was not the gentle person you are talking about. if you're talking about a decree prohibiting freemasonry, it was accepted into the second under nicholas and about that window and about alexander ii under nicholas the first, all the reforms were developed all the reforms carried out by alexander ii secrets rarities that dealt with this outwardly, and then how was the suppression of the austrian? come on, let's not the emergence of the hungarian revolution yes, the unifying factor of the revolution, please wait today no,
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let's say that without the hungarian revolution, will you shut up or not? give me at least a tiny chance to unite the nation around a lady. here is a classic example of a patriarchal russian society. so, if our men have the last programs for this week before the holidays, maybe a woman will try to say, at least a little bit, her word and try to try on all of you, in my opinion. the sacred relation of power is really in our cultural code, if you want a historical one, because the surviving russian tribes were so deified of the princes, and because otherwise, otherwise they would not have survived during those races that were taking place. but the people did not forgive weakness, the people did not forgive, the people did not forgive betrayal, when they were taken away captive and did not explain why, that is,
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when they became a father protector, so here are three, how to say the expectations from the russians to the father to the ruler, who will protect, who is just who knows what he is doing and he will always always keep and the territory will grow . that is why in history it is precisely such individuals who have remained praised. and those who are not so successful, as they rightly said, judge them by their deeds. yes, those have faded into the background. although historians are really serious, it will still be arguing for a long time, and the video of each ruler, so, the unifying role , first of all, is the care of their state and the care of citizens, all consent, but only to clarify. and then your attitude to the remark to konstantin alexandrovich that we are now a little well, in general, we have a distorted idea of ​​these real personalities. anyway, someone somewhere
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to explain something to us with books there, i don’t know. we are because we watch movies. they read historical books. we just don't have much of it. here we can have different points of view. at least read, i don't know klyuchevsky, i don’t know what, and so on, and nikolaevich well, mikhail borisovich, this is generally hmm, some time ago we collaborated on the tsargrad tv channel , including we had a project called and how is 100 years of the revolution correct. yes, that means that we took from the sixteenth year from october to the seventeenth to the end and every day. here we dismantled once a week the program came out every day. this is what was happening and the same parallel project was on red and white, they took some kind of figure. there from the red movement from the whites and attended by one historian. the history of the historian who adheres to, as we have you before, these herbs are conservative thoughts, relatively speaking, white and came, relatively speaking, red. and everyone had their own truth. so you say we should read
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historical books. there are materials there, so there are also different points of view, you will shortchange and agree on historical ones. we are always dealing with an image. of course, if he lived 500 years, 400 we were told three, and then those who read it told us. that's how it is, maybe i'll say the truth, does this mean nikolai viktorovich is in the image of stalin in 100-200 years. yeah, that's all, what we are now making claims to, it will depart due to the fact that the human memory, of course, is in history by seven. it will most likely be forgotten. tired, most likely. yes, tired already now his dry-handedness has disappeared. uh, it means that this ointment is nowhere to be found, but this is what leonid ilyich had until it disappeared anywhere, because people remember this, human memory passes through two generations and that’s it. 3 years perfect, but this
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polishing occurs not for some artificial reasons, but because life itself confirms the correctness of the figure, or vice versa, now it becomes clear. why did stalin do this? so or not, that's 10 years later. it will be even more understandable against the background of the events taking place in ukraine, why then nikolai viktorovich, uh, disputes begin again? here about the same alexander nevsky well, there, they really don’t go constantly, what is he on an island? yes? listen, although it would seem that so much time has passed that all questions should be taken off. yes, it seems to me that all questions have been removed. it’s just a desire to invent something, yes, on the contrary, it will absolutely only increase, the archives will be declassified, new data will appear . no, it does not, the humanities of their humanism requirements
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for historical characters will only increase. i know just yesterday, so to speak, when my girls are producers. here i worked. and who can really unite us? that's who is what historical, not necessarily you won't reveal all the cards, we will probably ask them about it at the end. yes, well, but i just say so, i found a counter-argument. we are united by another antihero. this one brings it together. yes, hitler hitler unites us all, our hatred for hitler is the same for everyone, so to speak. this is also such a pr- this is hmm, that is, and a certain positive built on the rejection of different sensors is one anti-hero. this really unites. well, it’s kind of like crap, that is, you live in a great country with a huge history, and you can and only one character
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who announces the whole country, because he was gagarin’s redkovich bastards, what do you unite everyone with? no, let's stop then. so, that's right, that big very list in ukraine is quieter. there is not a very large list here, political figures, and we will talk about them in a couple of minutes. his soul does not have time to fly away. the case breaks too quickly at the atoms
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historical personality who could serve as such a unifying symbol, but we talked about the leaders of our country about politicians and came to the conclusion that now we need to search in other areas. there really is a big list. we are so a little on top. and you can already, of course, propose any candidates in the conversation. in the end last year, vciom together with rbc asked russians to name the main heroes of the soviet era, the majority of 41% named yuri gagarin, our cosmonaut became a real world icon during his lifetime, and for soviet people, gagarin's flight into space on april 12, 1961 became a real holiday 14. i arrived to moscow when passengers were brought from the vnukovo airfield by bus to revolution square, i get out somewhere around 18 hours, i can’t understand anything, all moscow walks in another flowers, balls. i ask what is here is happening, what if gagarin fell into
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space gagarin flew into space. right now, we all met him with another legend. the marshal is considered a hero of the soviet era with a victory. georgy zhukov, for example, in the 2019 vciom poll, he took first place by a wide margin. defense minister sergei shoigu, generals alexander suvorov, mikhail kutuzov and konstantin rokossovsky, were also in the top, and the image of a talented person as a leader and thinker is being created, as it were. military figure of an unusual person four times hero of the soviet union cavalier of two orders of victory a total of 17 people received the order of victory, only three received two stars. this beetle became and vasilyevsky, who fled from russia, who finally called its inhabitants serfs and slaves,
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singer alla pugacheva took second place in the fresh ranking of the best performers of the year, only polina gagarina was able to press the popularity of polina gagarina, and the gap was almost twofold all other artists. valeria larisa dolina yuri chicherin vaenga is just as weak among russians to boast. so mikhail borisovich well some time ago, probably, hardly, who would have thought that alla borisovna would crash like that with such noise from her pedestal. but what happened and maybe some time will pass and her image is romanticized again, and she will again become a unifying figure with us. i think that god forbid of course because i remember that already in childhood she was a kind of soviet idol, yes, who sings all the time and everyone is delighted. they clap go to her concerts. but i have already grown old, and she is still present in some of our world. to me
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it seems to be some kind of maybe that she has some secrets there, but it seems to me that this is too long for the image that we are well creative creative singer. there is an artist writer. maybe unifying. i think so, you understand, because the problem is, what is it for me, for example, huh? and representatives of russian classics in different genres of art, these are the ideals that the nation should strive for. uh, in some kind of cultural development. here's what scares me. here are reviews, when among there are some singers. i do not see a single normal singer who is here. well, i love the opera. yes, maybe, of course, here in this case. eh, she is my love. well, let's just say in percentage terms, it means less than all the other stages there, yes, but it's, in principle, very sad when such strange characters become in the minds
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of a huge nation of a nation, in which there are completely different ideals, and a completely different level of culture, and they occupy the consciousness of the mass man. it's sad actually. and that's when such ratings there are called lateral. now, i don't know, you're thinking, right? that's all for you to name your option. interesting, but such another question. and why are there scientists in all these ratings and so on? well, nowhere at least one sometimes lomonosov sometimes lomonosov tells, but lomonosov rather, because it's some kind. well, i don't know, at least the desire to become a scientist, yes, well , like some basic desire of a young man, then, in general, really. here are some people there, like gagarina, pugacheva there, like space
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block. if yes, look at this uh list, where gagarin was the first there, further down, a little lower was korolev korolev and tsiolkovsky, of course. and mendeleev yes, korolev is different, it's a little bit too much. i do not know, probably, but because our science has ceased to be popularized. to monetize what konstantin alexandrovich spoke about the rulers. and you want, and you want to say that it's just more, but before perestroika , you would name some great scientists. come on, yes, i would like to pay one attention to one point. right now here list many people many people. so, when we talk about artists, when we talk about trained people, we say not the axis of the symbol that unites russia, we talk about what is now called media figures. this is a media figure. god bless. yes, gagarin is also only media figures. tell me what is the merit of gagarin
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this man, who was the first in that first one to be in space. we are definitely proud of this. there is a fair defense of the future of the country, everything is not there. we proud of uh zhukov what is zhukov this is victory over fascism not on fascism. this is relatively speaking, taken berlin is cool. this is great. we are definitely proud of this. this is justice. uh, before building a new society in building a country and so on. yes zhukov partly. yes, it was just an attempt to romanticize zhukov e. q. uh, what is this? it was just an attempt to monetize these media figures, and they cannot be and these are not symbols that unite unite romanticized symbols. when it was this one, remember, you wrote about the name of russia, i just
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i prepared all these books, which, according to the first figures, and you know the most paradoxical thing, in which we could not prepare a book on alexander nevsky and therefore we printed in this book live, if st. alexander nevsky simply because we no longer found. materialov konstantin alexandrovich i return to the first thing you said gagarin and our beetles are proud of. yes, they are not unifying, because they do not combine what is called all vectors in themselves . then then wait it turns out that only the ruler uniting everything on youtube is not it turns out just look. yes, because the rulers are still you, wait, listen, it means that the ruler will cause different emotions in different eh, members of the public. here are these people. i really like this ruler. but these people don't like it. they generally consider him a criminal or arise. this is the moment when we
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cannot collect enough materials about this ruler to publish a book. but, that is, these people cannot unite us all, but a certain media figure, who, in general, i'm sorry lord did nothing, except that it turned out like pa. in a tin can that was launched into space wait a minute i extend what you say he unites us all. so it means that he can be a symbol, in contrast to the ruler. no, he, maybe, he can be, the object of our pride does not unite us, or what? can unite you more like yes, unite nothing like that. maybe only the idea of ​​a state, which i have known for many, many years and which has a lot of advantages and all one drawback. he for some reason, he is rooting for dimon. i don't understand people. by the way, i'm one of the characters. be silent, please, maxim anatolyevich is acceptable. and let's say i support sparta. but our football team wins
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some big tournament. will we not be proud of this, dynamo and spartak players? will there not be our unity here. i don’t understand what the problem is to be proud of why andrey ivanovich is proud of it, is it clear what? no, i don’t understand if we are all proud of this unity, because, is it just a sport or just an art or only now this is enough for you only for a certain amount of time, or at a certain site, gagarin's unity is always for everything. yes, you can support it. well, let's listen, in fact, gagarin, in my opinion, is an ideal symbol, it is definitely a symbol of our victory. uh, the victories of our country of our people in the area where it will never be and no one will take it away from us, therefore, i remember, and also there in pre-covid times. yes, from my last trips around the world, i called up the konga little congo which is a truck monument to the loon.
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it is in the center of the city and we took pictures near it. you see, here he is a symbol, a symbol of this victory. and who then headed our country, khrushchev. he did not become a symbol of the cosmic victory, so for some reason he did not, but gagarin did. therefore, i think that it is gagarin who is that symbol. eh, to which no one can have any questions. no , it will still be there. yesterday i thought that leonov was supposed to be the first, but, and korolev sent gagarin first, you never know , gagarin drove a car, but i agree to foreign, so to speak, this can also raise questions, but i'm with you absolutely gagarin really, so to speak, not a tarnished hero. the social elevator left early, the guy from the village achieved, so to speak, the highest successes, the first in the world in the entire history of mankind, did what seemed to many generally unattainable. yes, this is real, uniting us all to all people. and
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well, and thank god it never occurred to anyone to dig through dirty linen there to look for something there under uh to enlarge the glass. thank god, glory put such a customer, without begging merit, er, gagarin and the whole space theme. how often do you argue with friends while discussing something, remember gagarina cosmos and why do i need to argue, i will explain explain why i ask alexei gennachev, stalin gorbachev why do i ask because this is a topic that we all know, which we all love, are more proud of that's exactly what we're talking about. she stands apart from our nothing. we do not remember this, which unites. i'm talking about it. i'll mark it on this peace afterwards or not, in a vivid way. yes, here it will be conditionally speaking, hanging. t-shirts depicting all the leaders of our state in different ways in
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different eras and a t-shirt from gagarin t-shirt from gagarin will be sold more than others, because there will always be questions for these leaders, there will always be victims during this leader. there will never be injustice. there, too, you will always understand, and gagarin, he is really a man of the strongest story in which you went throughout my house. i came home, the nanny is sitting laughing. i am i say what happened, he says, my seven-year-old son went to school, and he tells her that you are so angry that you pestered me with these prescriptions. maybe baptize you, he says, christ says you. do you see what he has to say? listen lev so i don't know, it's the teacher asking you. then i will complain. no putin, gagarin and here i support you, even my seven-year-old child decided that gagarin is more important to him than putin, i swear to you, this is true, true. now he sees me, probably my son on tv, he is like that back, but can i products, uh, such a single
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figure, maybe not, because everyone we have some of our preferences, our own views, uh, our idols, but it seems to me, do not create an idol for yourself it is written in the tablets. yes, and maybe if we unite not around a specific person, but around a specific idea, we have more chances to win, we talked about ideas earlier. today we just wanted to talk about personalities. yes, 13 years ago, a poll was conducted, well, among the intelligentsia, a great man. e today. that's who lives with us. who are the great people it turned out that 50 percent of the intelligentsia cannot answer this question at all, because and how is it, right? eh, the great lived only in this way, by the way, i won with an interesting one, because the time of ticks came out on top, but there were yankovskys, who were also, and so on, and kim and rybnikov alexei well, in general, there was good creativity there. eh, the figures, in the end they turned out. to
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the creative pugachev, too, there were in the end only creative ones, because no one named political ones. this is very interesting. but what, if anything, concerns. how do you explain it? wait as you explain it, that's just who was interviewed for such a result. yes, yes, no, they also interviewed quite well-known people of various kinds, they could ask you in the same way. well, sorry. all at once no, of course, they did not name the political ones, because they were too momentary, too many claims and did not have time to catch on to one. it had already been removed, another one had already come, and the one that had many complaints against him. now some other, who is not yet it is clear as now that is why this one is also very interesting indeed moment. why exactly only representatives of culture were named. well, as for the people uniting the country, of course, three and for 30 years. it's over twenty years old. we could see it all. hmm, really, second
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in first place. it came in second place. this is gagarina in third place. this is pushkin, judging by sociological questions, because even, for example, when they asked again 15 years ago, the people of home, by the way, are the best, therefore of course, uh, somewhere around a percent answered pushkin in second place, the uruguayan came in third in one simple adventure with others. they just didn’t know about vysotsky, they didn’t get there, they didn’t get there . so i have nothing. wait, you asked people what chechens think about stalin. you don't have to call him a unifying figure, when anatolyevich alexander alexandrovich worked on him, now, apparently, you were n't asked either. can you stop when asked? and then i will strengthen my opinion so as not to intelligent and you were not interrogated, quietly, quietly so nikolayevich, please, these people. here sits mikhail borisovich, in general, just a golden guest.
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now i am also the first two things, and in the pantheon of heroes he personifies gagarin, just for science, because as a result of the great scientific feat of labor feat, he flew, therefore, when people talk about gagarin, they also express admiration and respect for our science . this is the first second today sounded korolev crisis. interesting, well, korolev did not fly, therefore. well this is not where the media earns here, i agree. andrei vladimirovich subjected him to criticism. this is the thesis that sometimes enemies unite. here, estimating gagarin, that somehow i can’t not be ready for this, the enemies say, it’s not necessary to go far, a few weeks ago. ah, the head of the kiev regime in a t-shirt zelensky comes out that he has a black side written on the dark one and an attack aircraft tramples cosmonaut gagarin
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they understand that this is the main symbol, and therefore they trample him. so let's pay attention what the enemies say. they sometimes prompt prompt, sometimes they understand that for the russian soviet person. it is important to agree that zelensky will also unite with us as well, as he is already on the way, or that he will grow to a big weight in a full-fledged one. yes, you know, it seems to me, hmm, there is a big difference between the image that the masses choose, and the carrier of the ideal. here is gagarin - this is such an image, uh, in which most citizens of our country see themselves as a russian man, young, handsome successful, realizing one of the dreams of mankind. yes, there to penetrate into space. in this sense, uh, in itself it is self-sufficient,
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but it seems to me that the carriers of the devil should be. well, let's say a more voluminous figure, as these are more voluminous figures in the sense that he must do something for the country. e on a scale, at least he risked his life with the bridges of the leader, not on the scale of the person who invented the rocket, he sat there and did everything right. everything is as it should be. well, i don't know, there, uh, a portrait of our country. at world there, yes, and for everyone a very close person, because he looks like all of us, and he comes from our people and everything that you can look for good about him, but still, uh, there are people much more . well, let's put it this way, they put in efforts so that we remember them so that we remember them, and these are, first of all, of course, either ascetics. here we somehow did not talk about the ascetic. for me, for example, the images of the saints who built our country, built our country
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, precisely in the mental plane, showed certain ideal of human life. but we don’t mean our fellow citizens who profess islam or judaism, they have their own devils, but their ideals, and i’m sure that you won’t kill them, didn’t become us, as they rightly said about chechnya, they absolutely don’t give a damn, they don’t give a damn about stalin . yes , there are other heroes. uh, including religious ones, so here for us. it seems to me, uh, it is still worth choosing as carriers, the ideal in the national ideal. yes, after all, people who in history created something without which we cannot live. pushkin helped pushkin, of course. yes , the creators of the modern russian language. pretty zero for a historian, though. it is clear that, well, to be honest, who did more for the russian
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historical figure today can become uniting for us all konstantin aleksandrovich uniting for us all can only be the personality of a ruler who, in his own way, personifies, uh, at least, but fair and legitimate power, which we all strive for, all other figures, be it gagarin , be it polina gagarina, be it anyone, they everyone can only be the subject of our pride and that's it. they will never unite us, said how they cut off or not. in my understanding. sergei radonezhsky can be such a historical person, because this is a spiritual e, a spiritual beginning and a spiritual meaning. uh, a prayer book for russia in which the land collectors will not decipher and development, so that everyone speaks out , not very detailed alexander pobedonostsev,
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because this person laid the foundations of national statehood, and the authoritarian state is an outstanding russian historical philosopher in my opinion. and as a matter of fact, today the country is building up today. glory to you, lord, precisely according to the principle of the victorious. i think that the most, uh, high appraisal should be given to those who started our civilizational path. and this is first of all. i think that the palm of the first-born should be given to vladimir, the equal-to-the-apostles baptist, the person who actually gave birth to our country alekseevich spiritually, but only the image that will be created, from which the myth will be embodied, and this is vladimir ivanchenko lugansky fought a wave. and so, i did not expect to hear such options at all. so nikolaevich well, there are many such personalities that we see even from the statement, so there is no need to even try to bring them together. all to one figure nikolai and
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maxim for me one of the symbols is lev yashin but since he is associated with dynamo i will not impose and i will insist that the main symbol is gagarin another short example is a tiny country of tuvalu, 10,000 inhabitants, lost in the ocean. i go to the stamp museum. he is the only shop of the brand issued in tuvalu in the most prominent place gagarin on it. well, who is the symbol, if not gagarin pushkin, because only from pushkin the exhaustion of the elderly and the anti-stalinists can get some lines that will fall on the heart to read them to each other and remain friends. somehow i got upset at the end. times, of course, are now completely different now you will understand. why vasenka? who do you want to become? i want to become an astronaut when they grow up, listen, well, it's not fashionable or prestigious now. i want to become a female astronaut. it was the meeting place which cannot be changed 14:00 weekdays ntv broadcast well
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