the conflict is inevitable as the united states is preparing for the invasion of china to taiwan, will the americans be able to supply weapons to two fronts at once, he also needs weapons, yes, this is true and will the west isolate beijing or is it akin to suicide, you can’t repeat the mistake that was made against russia hello this a meeting place on ntv a place where everything becomes clear? i'm andrey norkin. my colleague is ivan trushkin.

today we want to briefly, probably, longer we will not be able to literally digress from the main topic of recent times for one issue, although nowhere, but still won't budge. some echoes will be heard today. here we want to be transported to a completely different point on our planet, where, as many say, see the title of our today's topic. conflict is inevitable. as i understand it, you probably already guessed that now we will start with the situation around taiwan, because the americans are the american press, american politicians. they say that the chinese. but if not just about, well, soon. so soon the military invasion of the island will begin, is this true or not? ah, it's probably a bit difficult to analyze somehow here. situation. but to imagine, try to imagine, but will the united states have enough strength to wage, well, by and large, such a confrontation is, yes, organize it on two

fronts at once, if the war is against us and against the chinese. now that's interesting. in the announcement, we showed you a piece, because regarding the supply of weapons to taiwan, taiwan needs a lot of weapons, which the americans supply a lot. but in fact, everything is also postponed there, not everything promised has come there, will they be able to do it. well questions really a lot. let's start with the most serious and the most terrible thing, that the chinese will allegedly start a war against taiwan very soon. on thursday, the american press reported that the pentagon is actively preparing for a possible war with china over taiwan, allegedly for this allies of the exercise in the pacific. was bar 2022 is a multilateral air and submarine ground force field exercise involving the maritime forces in japan india australia and the united states to improve interoperability between the participating navies, strengthening critical partnerships and

further demonstrating the presence of the us department of defense in the endo-pacific region, the real threat of an attack by mainland china, in an interview with the atlantic, said the head of taiwan, cai. she urged beijing to think twice before deciding to take such a step in the taiga and has already prepared a plan to combat the superior capabilities of opponents in syria, based on the experience of the kiev regime and asymmetric responses. in particular. bet on air defense and anti-rabies systems. weapons and attack drones for the development and production of drones according to the financial times, taiwan plans to allocate more than one and a half billion dollars at the moment, kamikaze drones are a relatively cheap type of weapon. we call them low- cost ammunition, they help to compensate for the numerical superiority of the enemy army. china is now the largest in the world with more than 2 million. there are still half a million people in the reserve of the armed forces.

taiwan only 169,000 soldiers, but more one and a half million reservists. at the same time, china is several times superior to taiwan in terms of the amount of armor of artillery equipment of combat aircraft of ships, but there is a nuance here. chinese soldiers have no combat experience. i think we have every reason to believe that as soon as the chinese go into battle , problems with corruption and lack of training will appear pretty soon, american experts, they suggested back in the summer. and that a war over taiwan between china and the united states could start in 2026 with major hostilities, according to a computer simulation to turn around at sea in this battle, china will be able to sink a significant part of the us and japanese fleets, but during the counterattack, the chinese will lose almost one and a half hundred ships; the chinese will lose dozens of ships and aircraft in a pessimistic scenario for them. they will lose a lot of people, prisoners of war, as their

beachhead is defeated by the taiwanese. so let's start in general, as far as we believe that a military conflict can begin. they 've been talking about him for a long time, but so far there's nothing, never nikolaevich yes, in your studio and in general for 2 years. i say that this conflict is inevitable. why is there a political reason for gray hair inside ? this is the political group of the army. you say you mean the army. and vice versa, that is, its key task, including the return of taiwan. yes, this brings a lot of further political benefits to them and, in fact , establishes control over eastern the south china sea makes china a hegemon, because these are the main centers of trade traffic in the world at the moment, that is, taiwan is the key story that is connected with 2022 following the twentieth congress and its political grouping has increased many times now, there are no restraints except for american forces in the politburo that would have

stopped him from doing so, yes. yes, we understand that it will indeed be destructive, it is very risky, and so on , xi jinping's deputy for the central military hewei-dum, the former command of the 31st army group, became the committee, the main task of this army group is the invasion of taiwan, that is, it is obvious that this is a different issue. yes, as far as it is technically possible, how will it happen? will it be just a blockade that will not bring anything, although, it will not be about that, just i wanted to ask. so, when we say invasion, we mean exactly here the landing of the beaches there wrote very much or is it a naval blockade of the island and military experts speak, who should say, but on in fact, only two two landing areas are successful, which can be carried out on the island and china really does not have such experience, but taiwan does not have such experience, that is, strength, in principle, is in balance determined in china huge submarine fleet huge aviation huge in season , and it can destroy all the forces of taiwan but it will lead down there to the chinese side, and to a large number of victims, the so-called chinese

compatriots who live in taiwan that is, it is humanitarian. is the disaster ready? the chinese to it? it's good now? those details are already gone. we will sort them out now, and the americans will e. joseph the americans will be to blame for intervening, because that's what we said, there is a war for taiwan for now. uh, all these talks are speculative while the biden administration is in power, because biden came to power with a program, and a statement that he will cut pentagon spending that he will not directly participate. he withdraws troops from or promised something. he now said that the prices for gasoline has reduced, it turns out that there will be no answer from the americans under biden, most likely, therefore, the republican republican and, therefore, the party will come to power. president, then there can be direct intervention. i'm not talking about a hybrid war now, a hybrid war is being fully developed with the participation of the americans well the rest, so sergey felix, let's you now

how likely is this invasion and how likely is it in the near future to assume that there will be no external interference, then, accordingly, you can question 100% certainty, downloading will not be in china on taiwan in this sense, wait, here are all the goals that nikolaevich has never indicated now, do you think that they are meaningless, they use no packaging, not a trailer, i will definitely remind you that it’s not goes, and return in general taiwan is considered a part of china and by the way, it is recognized even by the same united states of america and here peaceful reunification. yes , this is how the goal was set , including at the twentieth, we will congress the parties, china and in the event that, firstly, a separatism will grow, and secondly, b-it will all receive external support. as a matter of fact, this doesn’t remind you of anything exactly one to me, which was being unscrewed by ukraine now, just those old

scenarios, probably, one to one also cannot be transferred. they are still, at least, americans. this is still dubbed exactly. also from the lemon desire article is missing. beijing absolutely lacks oh and ms. cainwen. she said it was almost today. yes there i am i do not know there must be an invasion, of course. it is also scientific precisely of the west in order to promote this provocation exactly the same as learning, but the chinese also teach. yes, in this example, how war proxies behave. here they lead. a proxy for war in your united states in ukraine has formed, as if a conflict of interest or opinion. here is the inevitable uh-huh invasion and it will never be 24 years old, of course, china will try to do it all in the right way to do everything. and then after that, it will be necessary to look at depending on this, from 25 to 27 is the time when the chinese can take and military cases

also shift. if you remember back sergeyevich says that this will never happen because this will never happen depending on the real yes explains how the real east. politician, he explains to us that everything may be, may not be, it may be so, but not quite so, then this is not the place for them. he doesn't know when. here, come on who is it from evgenievich well, come on, in my opinion, colleague nikolaevich let's still look at original disposition. why does the prc now need a military nikolai nikolaevna, excuse me for the position that the chinese leadership is idiots. well, of course, why is it quite possible that you start a special operation right away, idiot, or what? well, here's a further question, and the twenty-fourth year of the election in

taiwan is so presidential. well, the assessments of sociologists say that, uh, the nationalist frenzy on the basis of which the commandant came, but was replaced. he descends, and the opposition came under the decolonization of the liberation from the dictates of the aliens from in mainland china, all this is already coming down to the essential world and significant pragmatic interesting things are coming into play; it will end peacefully, relatively speaking, like macau and hong kong, china is the least interested in a military solution. well, if they are going, uh, they are provoking, and the democrats, who need to save now and their

anti-republican coalition, are provoking china taiwan to declare that they will fight for independence. china sees real prospects for peaceful reunification as a result of the victories of the condom in the elections of the twenty-fourth year, for which they now have chances very much i love and respect, as an expert differently. forgive me about ukraine, we have been told for many years the same things that we need to sit and endure. these bad ones are now here, which means they will be thrown off and the normal ones will come. this has already been said. there is one player whoever comes to taiwan, he will still deal with taiwan. this is the united states of america, which over the past 30

days has planted tens of billions of dollars in the armed forces of taiwan and will continue to supply weapons. the only thing. there is one problem there. they are now encircling ukraine a lot and taiwan is not really getting the plot now, let's see, and then only then everything became true in early autumn. it is known that washington plans to send weapons worth more than one billion to taiwan dollars and 60 anti-robber missiles. boone and 100 sidewinder missiles, air-to-air missiles and much more, all the same over the past 30 years, america has sent $ 70 billion worth of weapons to taiwan, the current arms purchase contract also includes the infamous himes. the last few months. we are witnessing the expansion of authoritarianism, and as a result, people suffer the pain caused by the war in order to maintain both regional and global peace and stability. i want to reassure you that taiwan is ready for further the deepest cooperation by the united states and

all democratic partners in us assistance to taiwan. it could be even more abundant, but today there is a huge amount of american weapons. leaves for ukraine in february of this year, washington spent $ 18 billion on this. almost one and a half thousand stinger anti-aircraft systems and 8,500 javelins were transferred to kiev, according to national interest. the white house is unlikely to be able to arm at the same time. ukrainian and taiwanese army almost a third of all stocks of jivelin spent, and for a week or even a month to replenish stocks, the publication notes that taiwan has already faced delays in deliveries due to ukraine if i understand you correctly in your armed forces. we need stingers, javelins, drones, exactly the same as the ukrainian ones. yes, it’s true, and you don’t get it, because they all go to ukraine, you already ordered them, in my opinion, not enough, but at least they started ordering, but haven’t received anything yet from

another country similar requests, we are not the first in line . at the same time, the united states promises that its army will intervene if taiwan is attacked in september joe biden reiterate that aggression against the island nation is almost tantamount to aggression against the united states itself please specify sir, american troops american men and women will defend taiwan in the event of a chinese one. next yes, apart from the united states, the independence of taiwan is openly supported by great britain . this week, the deputy minister of energy of the kingdom arrived on the island. greg hans, like, how to strengthen trade relations. beijing expressed strong protest. we urge the uk to sincerely respect china's sovereignty and uphold the principle of one china to stop any form of official contact with taiwan and stop sending false signals to the pro- taiwan independence separatist forces, and the european union cannot

get past the brewing conflict. will help taiwan in the event of an attack by china, we do not accept when international law is violated and a larger neighbor attacks his smaller neighbor violates this right. and that certainly applies to china first. welcome back. secondly, even before the beginning of the plot, you began to shout everything is not true, which is not true in the plot. no well the plot he was yelling untruth on specifically no first, there are two things. here is the noise that is now circulating around taiwan, it has only one goal. he has the goal of preparing, as a strong position for the sizenpin in negotiations with the biden on november 16 of this year. this is the key to brake. wait, please, andrei vladimirovich means i heard now the german foreign minister uh-huh who said that if china will lead badly, she will get from atat. i heard the president of the united states say, i mean, if

china misbehaves, american men and women will go to defend taiwan, and you want to say that they are strengthening their position in this way. no, i mean, all that noise, then now around taiwan - this is once again andrey vladimirovich, you apparently do not understand me, they are making noise. so i say, okay lena burbuck, make noise the uk has been around for a long time, you understand that now the situation is different. here 4 days will take place, the key indeed the key meeting. e biden, on which the fate of taiwan actually depends and what he wants he wants. sorry, he wants to kick out of the biden, tough guarantees, no us interference, so you can't kick anything out. he will die immediately. secondly, we must not forget that taiwan is not ukraine. yes, it means that we have the most powerful american fleet near taiwan since we have a military base on the ocean and so on. i mean, it's not a question, javelins, javelins are useless women. taiwan because it's good, but

i still don't mean that you want to say that everything that is happening now is informational noise, it's all operated by beijing. yes, of course. they conspired a little bit for the wife, this is a special informational noise, because i once again say the situation at biden andrey vladimirovich you are some kind of person from the book hmm 1984. here you are, it seems like you start somehow like this. so it understands something, then you come and that's it. simply, we understand at the end of the biden meeting, you will see that i was right , i'm saying that you are always wrong yourself. yes , therefore, depending on this meeting. maybe a lot of what is happening now in taiwan will happen. if we talk about that, then the noisy one, which was imperiled by someone, burst itself. uh, let's put it this way,

but the fear around a possible attack, china taiwan, the americans began with the visit of their grandmother, or rather, even with how she first wanted to go, then she canceled this one, like she got sick, and then she wanted to again. that is, from that moment began, with regard to china and, in principle, the relationship of china between democrats and republicans can doggie. as much as you like on all different issues, containment of china, including the use of force, including military, is one of the few elements . enough will fill up, equally with weapons, money participation, firstly among the americans. taiwan has certain security guarantees for ukraine there was no such thing. this is one or two times, the americans perceive russia as a splinter, as a

regional problem, but it is china that is not considered as a person, as a country that has been a global challenge in recent years, a whole series of publications appeared in american publications serious about the fact that china not so easy. it leads you, and what is ahead of china in a number of military technologies, the united states. so the americans will not catch up with quantum computing and so on, and therefore the americans believe that the moment is dragged out the longer a direct military clash between the united states and china will be more difficult for the americans and china to contain than comparable. yes, they can somehow emphasize it in certain situations. this is optional. this happened before the first world war in their layouts. they can provoke the taiwanese now provoke very simply once or twice, just say the word independence in some places by the italian authorities. and this is the weak point. china is always beautiful because china always has room to maneuver. he can do it so do it, he's not bound

obligations. well, specifically for the taiwanese case. if this is done, it will resolve issues by military means, because in china there is a very seriously pumped up electorate, uh, which uh-huh won't allow taiwan independence once and twice, put a comrade in his place. xi he pushed his election to a third term. he pushed through virtually lifelong power under the slogan. i'm done, and i can solve all your problems better than my potential successor, and then with him once and taiwan officially becomes independent. this is a very dangerous situation. america i once again i say i do not say that the americans are good. you said that the americans would behave much more harshly than now, but it would be very beneficial for russia if the conflict around taiwan starts, for china to try to liberate taiwan . however, this is not beneficial for china for a number of reasons, firstly, there are economic reasons . yes,

a cold war is brewing between the awesome states and a number of allies in the west, not just in the west. this is japan, so to speak, such a big smell. ah with china but still saving part of uh economic relationships. it remains beneficial to china and at the moment. this is beneficial to europe and the united states. it is also beneficial, so china is now not ready for the losses that a full-scale war in the cold economic zone would bring, according to american estimates. they say that it will start tomorrow they say, there, here to here, in two, in there, in 3 years. you know, 2 years 3 years. china now would prefer the economic situation to remain stable , the second point is related to, uh, how china is observing behind what is happening in our country, after all, what is happening in ukraine is a kind of lesson and a military geopolitical lesson an economic lesson for china china was discussed here. yegor valeevich, said provocations, china sees and watches how russia was provoked and russia fell into a kind of geopolitical trap, either

china wanted to find itself in that situation and face the difficulties that russia is now facing , obviously not. moreover indeed. i said the american reaction would be different on the chinese invasion of taiwan yes, american china uh, the reaction will be different from the reaction in ukraine how different, indeed the united states has certain responsibilities, certain responsibilities in terms of protecting the security of taiwan when the biden is, and when he was asked a question about whether , will he be ready to send american soldiers to defend taiwan, in contrast to the case of ukraine, he answered bluntly. yes, why is not a single american president putin a democrat or a republican can afford to sit back, if china tries to take over taiwan it will mean the collapse of the american foreign. and if it will be a naval blockade if there is no landing on the coast, and china will block the sea routes. and

it will probably create somewhere without a flight zone. the united states will go. here, there is no direct open conflict, but to such a. the scenario is undoubtedly the united states and some of its allies - this is potentially the uk australia perhaps some others, but first of all the uk and australia, together with the united states, will certainly try. i want to emphasize that he will try to break through this blockade and will try to use, including, uh, methods of military pressure. it will be quite a dangerous situation, but the problem is that for china there is not one in this situation, but one. well, let's just say, a fully-fledged winning scenario at the moment. okay. can i have you now china doesn’t need you today, so it just turns out that while nikolai nikolayevich is alone andrey petrovich let us have your opinion, and then i don’t want to go anywhere by the way a few more theses of the first china is going to solve the problem peaceful by written in eat, but

the question is for some reason then a military uniform. he makes it clear that this is a signal the integrity of the side is unshakable, for whom he gives a signal not for taiwan but for the united states the united states of america is creating an outreach, the outline of which is taiwan at the center, why do they need a conflict? here's how to do it throw a sea of ​​\u200b\ u200bweapons, if there is a lot of gunpowder, it will definitely catch fire on such a small, uh, small patch as taiwan is the main task of the united states, who is now taiwan well, or the president. she told her to speak. this is where she drew attention to herself. now everyone is noisy in the information space, the impression is created. who is to blame china is to blame? and now we will

fight a very good idea in the blockade. she had already been worked out when she arrived. the philosopher has seen everything, what will he do? china will do just that. but who will have this information that they will annex taiwan peacefully. this is our territory ok. and i'll clarify. well, come on, you said what you said, then she does. so tomorrow she'll get a call from the hypothetical secretary of state. well, not tomorrow, in six months, the united states will say, listen, we thought, probably, your independence. this is not bad. yes, you could not come out, so to the podium and so tell all this, as you would like independence, because so far you yourself have not announced it. you understand we can't. here to support the opening, she comes out and speaks openly. i just thought we were worth consulting with yourself on the island. we are independent people. we declared absolutely china to us nobody. at this moment

there is none. wait. well, understand what she said. wait, there is still the people of taiwan, there is a parliament in which this lady does not have an absolute majority, which is necessary for 2/3 to invite independence, so timur said i love you even more than trushkin. he's scared. here i am right now. well, again, i have to look at the clock and ask where are the tectonic shifts after the congressional elections, where. tick after eight me. what did the badger say? what did you say? you told him, well done, you did

it, you fucking won. they picked out the dead again. and now, until december, black and white thieves will have to count. there is a parliament there, right? all this. no wait a second. you have to get on the road like that. no, this is the prediction of one representative of the people. forgive the flesh of the flesh of the people. quietly wait quietly, nikolai nikolayevich , first of all, you see, somehow no one supports you. and secondly, i heard when vanya began to draw this picture with an alleged call of the respected, madam, to the president. you said exactly the same yes, yes. well, you know. one well-known political leader a from the big carpet party said that there is a logic of intention, there is a logic of circumstances, and always in the history of the logic of circumstances. yes, she wins, you never know what you want. yes, to walk that everything developed as

before, but there are circumstances when from the usa and china they are moving towards war at a very high speed, between themselves. yes, hybrid at the beginning it will be hybrid confrontation, as far as ukraine is concerned, ukraine showed not only, uh, those things that dear experts listed, but also domestic political experience, uh, the experience of the ukrainian operation. look how the russian society has rallied, the russian political elite has been exploited around our leader. isn't that the kind of experience that might be needed for more consolidation now in china against the backdrop of global governments. we have another process. we have a stratification, and even yes, those who have left and all sorts of chinese are standing in front of e, the threshold of great economic trials, i will call this crisis and trials. means diepperskie crisis. nobody will deny it. this is a fact of reducing foreign trade turnover. yes, a huge number of people who may be dissatisfied. that is, it is the logic that the chinese people, the

chinese elite, can push for more decisive, i emphasize there are graying actions, as far as? i'm just a little materiel. yes, i will give you about, uh, taiwan relations act 1979. it does not imply any combat support for taiwan by united states troops. yes, weapons and so on. they will do this, and moreover, the tectonic shifts that we expect after the elections, respectively, to the congress of the republicans. they do not see their benefits from the supply of weapons. ukraine they are, most likely, as it was said in your video. this need of the thais will be satisfied. they will most likely start pumping. this weapon is a matter of when it will be tomorrow within a year. now why these japanese exercises are now being held by japanese americans, because the climatic conditions are ripe for the taiwanese operation, the monsoon period will end. now there will be no typhoons calmly on the sea. that is, you can perform the operation. yet again. i'm not saying it will. let's do it then, eh.

protiktonic shifts, however, probably not politically, but rather economic, i just said, yes, we have the topic of ukraine there, it will still be like echoes. that's what uh our special ops started when a it's obvious what happened followed by some serious economic ones. yes , shocks are not for us and for europe well, maybe even in america in a sense, and what would happen if it starts here? let's talk about this in a couple of minutes. cheaper than in the store delivery for free order profitably, do not miss the events and people of the week in the central television. the united states is urging the ecumenical to demonstrate readiness for negotiations with moscow but what is behind this imitation of discalation to calm wavering allies, or is washington really tired of the ukrainian crisis? heaps of the scenario for

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meeting place on ntv is the place where everything becomes clear, and we continue. let's take a look at possible tectonic economic shifts, because, of course, the economic situation that is developing in the same europe now, but it probably makes many think, but imagine what will happen in the world. if something starts there around china and taiwan. they have some influence, as it were, probably, on the world economy less than ours so to speak. despite the fact that taiwan is territorially smaller than the moscow region, all the world's major technology companies depend on this mug. taiwan leader in microchip manufacturing taiwanese companies umc and tsmc account for about 60% of revenue. total world semiconductor production. washington knows well the

consequences for the global economy will be extremely tangible chips in our smartphones in car dishwashers, if they are removed from the trade chain, everyone will have big problems, customers, taiwanese companies are the largest it-giants, including american apple qualcomman video huawei intel chips are critical components for any electronics, from smartphones and computers to tvs and robotic vacuum cleaners. simply put, any electronic device cannot work without semiconductors, even a simple electronic watch must have a plan. rabbits are not without modern weapons. imagine now in the top 10 most highly updated companies in the world, in addition to tsmc. there are five more of its clients, respectively, if something happens to cmc, then half of china will simply drop out of the top 10 most highly qualified companies in the world, just like taiwan has made the development of the semiconductor industry a strategic

priority. however, china provides only 15% of world production. beijing is inferior to the taiwanese due to the fact that it does not have quick access to new western production technologies, and to close this gap quickly. until it turns out in taiwan hopes it's a chip monopoly protect the island from military conflict, perhaps because our company provides the world with a lot of chips, maybe someone will refrain from attacking it if that person's priority is economic well-being. i think he will refrain from attacking taiwan however. the pikans seem to be not so sure about this and even figured out how to insure themselves in case of something, just the other day it was reported from a distant sharp pull that a taiwanese company was launching a new plant in the us state of arizona. microchip production. may be established in 2024 . so let's, uh, i'm here, as if i see two options georg valerievich let's start with you.

so the first fear is the fear of this collapse of the world yes. well, yes, maybe a deterrent that we will not start anything, because it will be on the other hand, if there is a monopolist of 80%. and then there is a country with 15%, which means absolutely uh-huh well, these, which are 15%, it is much more powerful i don't hold back. quiet, quiet. now explain with fifteen percent and he cannot become a monopolist. he is only a monopolis if he costs you 80% of the loot in some way, right? well, do you think that in china's war for reunification, suffering will be this for a long time everyone knows that i am not able to think. that's why i always ask you. yes, i also think i can, but from what i can imagine, and china's war against taiwan will be fraught with colossal destruction, including

taiwan's economy, why is this one of the reasons? why is china still not attacked? that china is very worried about the state of the taiwanese economy 80% if they are destroyed, why all of a sudden why china now again they will tell you clouds, huh? yeah break through understand if there are microchips there is a blockade yes if there is a blockade what is a blockade lawyer? this is not a war, a lawyer is the creation of will, who has more will, who will stand and not let him in, and someone will break through and spit. don't want speak is highly accurate. well, now taiwan is still compared with the territory of ukraine, maybe, and the territory is comparable to the moscow region, this high-precision weapon has it. there are just fewer points on the map where you had to go to the church. so quiet. there is a large population in a small area, where the population is ready to defend itself, including from china, where american participation will be mandatory. i doubt

that there will be limited strikes with precision weapons, at least american experts. all those who predicts, as it were, the scenario of the war for taiwan they say that, in principle, the projectile implies the most serious destruction; political colleagues wept here. well, you see, that's not knowledge, details and persons. is it possible or just surprising? yes, we have already said this to our girls today. hmm look. i heard the first china can not replace. and these here are 80%, because, uh, they closed it 5 years ago. access to new technologies for the production of chips is in the suburbs of benhovin , a company that is almost a 100% monopoly in the production of masks for the production tvsl chips is called a company, so china has no second access to a new generation of chips. now it's on the doorstep. a new wave of chips

with a density of e, two nanometers, the company, which i said is dutch, has completed all experimental development and is ready to launch this production in the twenty-fourth year. this is the company in oregon that was talked about in the horizon. excuse me, but she is just about to deliver. is this new, i understand that then there is no particular risk and no collapse of chip hunger if everything is already in america for e mobile e for smartphones, because they are still on the same generation. secondly, time goes to substitution, and the question always rests on one thing, if you have 5 billion dollars in order to be sorry, yes, and you have 5 billion dollars in order to build a fact,

i looked yesterday. uh, i should have looked at those same 10 dollars 20 cents in the bank. i only have sympathy for two, but it’s normal, yes, $ 5 billion is not, a significant significant volume, if there is a gap in operating ties, yes the sharp rise in the cost of smartphones. in general, high sharp inflation in the face of the looming global crisis is a big headache for everyone, but it's surmountable in a year building a pub is a year. and let's expand a little and not only with the chip one, but of course, wait a minute, i'll show the plot, and

then everything else later. the problem is different. see, here we are with you now someone is pinched, and someone has small pearls. sorry plot. please show the first substrate in russia well. the topic talks about what we all saw after the special operation during the special operation in ukraine, that the smell can lead to significant sanctions against russia, this is called a shot in one's leg. well, such a well-established battle, and so, if he starts to impose sanctions against china, in the case from china, this shot will start right in his head like that. no , today china is the second economy in the world after the united states , moreover, a third of the total world economic growth in recent years is accounted for by beijing is not the last role. this is where chinese investment comes into play. so in american companies, the chinese. last year, more than 145 billion dollars were invested, and the mutual investment of china and the eu is more than 270 billion. and this is only a tenth of the total investments worldwide. china invests most of all in

trade, but does not forget about the financial transport sector and business services. chinese stocks have been rising for the past 18 months, so some investors are literally making money. china like minimum. for two decades, china has been the leading generator of world gdp. china is not only an investor, but also a global manufacturer of almost everything in the world. a quarter of exports fall on machinery, equipment and electronics, and the leader in the purchase of all this, again, the united states and japan and south korea 2 years ago, china first became the largest trading partner of the eu overtaking america i think that in the case of such a growing power as china , close neighbors like india or countries that until recently were dominant an economic force like the united states it is worth thinking about their position, they can come with a hard time from the power of china china supplies the world not only finished products, but also natural resources, for example, rare earth metals, the share of china in their

world production reaches 70%. china also leads in the production of lithium, it is sometimes called white oil and is used in the production of batteries that work in all modern gadgets, according to various estimates. four out of five such batteries around the world are chinese, it is extremely unlikely that we will have a company that can compete with china with our environmental rights, the salaries we pay and so on. it's really a hard problem. that china mines in the global production and economy of rare earth metals andrey vladimirovich, you have such a sanctions package in our program with our packages, do not be offended. only i'm kind at home. here, as you think, there will also be packages, packages, packages , more packages of sanctions in case. if china starts something or it will be different, it will be different. here are just some limited sanctions against individual chinese companies. eh, again, technological in nature. because the sanctions against the chinese are the collapse of the world economy. so then

china has nothing to experience understand nothing. china is an emergency because china works for export. and here it works. but wait, it means that if china is not limited, that is, chinese exports will not or will not be limited, then there is nothing to worry about and that's it. listen to what because, first of all, uh, there will be logistical problems, it will be natural. oh, that's it, but the most important thing is that the degree of e, china's entry into foreign markets will slow down, and for them it is fundamentally important to maintain high rates. uh, that means the presence of sanctions for us from program to program. i don’t remember who, in my opinion, is a eugenist, someone else said that china is now changing the agenda. foreign trade becomes less important focus on the domestic market. yes, yes, they have a new, so to speak, new generation, which is wonderful, so to speak, the generation of buyers and so on, but without nothing in the chinese market

does not exist does not exist. let's already exist, because, firstly, yes, this is a double cycle, both internally and externally, what has already been launched. and by the way, in general, orientation towards the domestic market began even before the chairmanship in china, but now the most important thing is the middle class, which already has 500 million people. and this is, in principle, an endemic system. china is no longer dependent on the outside world, but uh, i would like uh, what is called to get up twice we have a name, the conflict is inevitable, so this conflict is really inevitable in this regard. i agree with nikolai that it will happen sometime anyway, but not because of the chips. and not even because of some economic things here. indeed, the situation is like this. which, by the way, is not blinken, he said about it. if there are problems with the chips, it will not be about the fact that china will feel bad, or who everyone will feel bad for everyone, so does this scenario mean that then the conflict can be avoided, because everyone

understands that there are two options for chips specifically for chips but conflict is inevitable. chips, and above all due to the fact that these are completely different social systems. this is capitalism, which is going its own way, a dead end is already visible and socialism, even if with chinese characteristics, well, which has a great future , a bright future ahead, that's why the chinese don't need a war. they are for peace as well as in the council of the union. we said we are peaceful people, but our armored train is on the western route. this is the demonstration that the chairman shows, he stands for the community of common destiny, says that the world depends on a friend, while if necessary, the chinese people's territory is ready to defend its sovereign interests. well, russian capitalism is also going to a standstill, it turns out according to your logic. everyone goes except in

principle, in principle, this is, well, yes, everyone will end up the same way, but this does not mean that you need to be somehow pessimistic about it. so, yes, please, regarding the sanction, then then here are their possibilities regarding the sanction. let's not forget donald trump, the forty-fifth president of the united states, went to war and he he took care of who began to impose sanctions, and for so many years this program has been going on to stop china. so, on the one hand, china has learned, and on the other hand, the united states of america has already tried and understands how and what to do? with china , what is absolutely true, but what, in principle, are chips, well, you will understand, everyone said that europe would not survive without cheap gas from russia, what happened, that's for now. wait more. let's wait and see. and what else did they move to? how,

and then against europe, andrei petrovich half or less than the second one didn’t work there, in general everything else is going on, but now nothing practically the same will happen and the same thing will happen with china. wait, joseph evgenievich, no need to brag. let's get professional one, shall we? you are professionals here, right? well, of course, in all areas, which means that one of the reasons why the separation of the west from russia happened relatively easily is that the level of economic relations between moscow and washington and london, that is, the main centers of western civilization today, which is controlled by these processes, the level of these economic relationships was quite

low, so the main centers. the west did not lose anything, they lost little, and other centers such as berlin paris rome yes, they lost less, but they are more dependent on the anglo-saxon core, so this detachment was relatively easy. with china, this will not work out the level, and the economic relations between china and the west are much higher interconnectedness of interdependence is much higher than that of russia from the west and therefore any cold war that we have undoubtedly already entered into a certain stage of the cold war between the west and china but this is a cold war in terms of both chinese interests and interests. the west must be controlled. that is, this is such a controlled cold war, where yes there will be sanctions, they already exist there will be more, but they will not be withdrawn immediately, not in the same way as against russia side, therefore, yes, we must expect an increase in tension in

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that clean energy existed only at the expense of dirty russian energy carriers, we will not act to your detriment. and how eco activists in desperation attract the attention of the world community. we are the climate first aid about it right now. this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. we continue. well, i said, now we will talk about different dependencies. well, here i am, in a sense, as if you remember in a caucasian captive, when they were vaccinated against the lizard . here is the russian he spoke there about excess, various bad things. here i am talking about addiction, too, no matter how good they are, but i had in mind, we now had such a micro-argument about whether europe managed to get rid of this energy carbohydrate addiction or i fail why uh hmm now i say that that's it. you see, here's a bad

dependence, because the fact that i'm here are the processes that i observe, i can hardly explain anything, even pick a name for them. that's what my problem is. i finally figured it out, got it? it's good that today we have moved away from the topic, because ukrainian, because what is happening now is this ecological one, but a sign, and in museums, but exhibition halls, and europe and not only europe in general, all continents. and here i am, except for well, damn it, i want to swear. i can not. that is, this is some kind of very serious dependence much worse than that of hydrocarbons, if today we would not be distracted from the ukrainian topic. we probably wouldn’t show it, it needs to be shown, because i want them to explain to me what people are, like, how they fight for the environment there, well, for a just cause. today, by the way, we invited

representatives of greenpeace, but they refused to come, perhaps because, probably, it would also be difficult for them to choose some words to justify what they will now show. let's finally do it. last wednesday, eco vandals painted a series of endiorhola works in the national gallery of australia with sitting markers while trying to stick themselves to the paintings from damage. saved only protective glass action, accompanied by calls to stop oil production, and last week gas activists attacked the painting by van gogh the sower, which is located in the roman palace-banaparte. masterpiece. sub-habit of the river the refusal of coal was poured with soup to the participants of the performance, now faces up to 5 years in prison. and we risk being left without food and water, risking our lives. this is not vandalism. this is a cry, despair at the

end of october, two are madmen, armed with superglue and again with soup, they tried to study the picture of jan vermier, a girl with a pearl earring , she was saved by a protective screen. how are you feeling? when you see that something beautiful and priceless is being destroyed before your very eyes, before that, german fighters for nature poured mashed potatoes on a painting by claude monet gasina in the museum under the lady, but at the same time glued to the wall. people are starving, people are freezing, people are dying, well, the very first such action was held by environmentalists about a month ago in london, then they splashed a van gogh painting with sunflowers with tomato soup. the canvas did not suffer, the hooligans were detained. inaccessible to melumey, they cannot afford to warm up

such a tin of soup against the background of the violent activity of ordinary eco-activists, their ideological leaders of sweden , already 19-year-old greta thunberg, suddenly refused to participate in the global climate change, which takes place in sharm el sheikh about it. she spoke in london at the presentation of her book. thunberg said that she switched from the environmental agenda to the fight against capitalism, but commented on the flash mob with attacks on museums. many people come in despair and try to find new methods, because we understand that everything that we did before did not work. so it's quite predictable. well, from this i will try to push off after all, because, of course, the easiest way to say that there is no rest for the fucked up and just it hurts, just the same. you see everything. yes, well, only these are actually substances that are watered by different ones. and so it is necessary to glue the palm of your hand, there and some objects are selected and so

on. so, i can only explain this to myself with one story, really. they say something in the teaching and thunberg stopped working in general, the topics began to fade a little. here it is green and then someone. i don't know who comes up with this new technique. i don't think it's her herself , in my opinion, so, as far as i understand, she herself is not in state, think of nothing at all. there the first time she became famous was there her parents had a lot, as it turned out to do. that is, for some reason, another attempt is being made. here it is to raise the green theme to the first lines. it's dead no, well, because something really didn't work. and this is where they chose. well listen. well, because i don’t remember such actions before, there could have been manifestations, we climbed some walls there, stormed oil platforms. yes yes, i already like, but i didn't see it. antonchik, please, don’t. well, in fact, there were such actions before, when.

well, i don’t remember exactly now, but 100% was just like that with such purity. so it means no, in general, i am well, in general, look, it’s clear that if a child is lit, it means that someone needs to say like this, but here it’s impossible to say that they just took it and turned it on. now some kind of toggle switch, they pressed, they gave everyone a command and everyone went. here you need to understand that at one time they opened pandora's box with all these a-a movements with all these people, it is i who insist that this is exactly what happened, then guys. come to the museum. take some food with you. yes. so listen, and people, when i talk about pandora's box, i'm talking about the fact that at one time they specially holly. uh, all these comrades cherished these people, and a rather fanatical view is in many respects even now, when there is rhetoric, official, that we are opening a coal mine here, which means we are resuming power plants, that's the fifth to tenth. well, what goes against all that,

what they said not before, and what they stood for, that is, of course. eh, this is also a response . it is possible that this is not only some kind of team. it may also be their internal, respectively, movement. their intrinsic motivation means that one person did it, the rest looked and ran and repeated. yes , it basically does the same movement. i don't remember the name and i want to remind you that actually, they don't spoil anything there. why do they do it for real, uh in museums, 'cause you are protected there. they haven't really messed anything up yet. all these pictures are protected there. they thus attract attention to themselves so that they write them. eh, scrotum. none of them wants to punch themselves yet. yes, as it were, but how else and how else to attract attention, if they are just with posters, no one noticed them attracting attention now such a coordinated. i mean, they doubt they have and raise the environmental agenda higher, the climate summits of the meeting, all these discussions, then co2 emissions per capita, that all this stopped working, the project began to quietly

throw away with no skin, but ends, but you already somehow know how the flowers that they died for two days. they are somehow already, as if the time all this is once and absolutely right in order to answer this question. give me 30 seconds please. i would break. i fundamentally two fundamental things in hand. the first fundamental thing is in the movement of a complete rejection for some year there from means from carbonization from oil to gas and a complete transition to green energy. it's here, well, it means the development of alternative energy sources, which includes green energy itself, this is another story, because here's the second story. she will develop. as practice shows. it develops even in these conditions, because the growth of electricity consumption it requires new energy. accordingly, all this, as it were, will also develop. and here is the first story, indeed there is a bold cross on it, this bold cross used to be actually andrei and before the special military operation. yes, throughout this situation, it was clear that it was impossible to abandon

traditional energy carriers in the near future, but these goals were stated. why because it was sold to the audience audience is impossible to understand that we are there in the sixtieth year 20% only yes, we will reach or there 40%, but the audience is needed? sing there, yes of this all apartments there in some year, all your time is up. sorry then. it turns into such a really serious political company that should hmm how to say something not minimize damage. but then really explain to the population. why can't the same european countries do what was planned, at least within the specified time frame, or again, i misunderstand something, viktor zhozevich. everything is correct. er, it's not that hard to explain. in fact, they blame for this, including russia, obviously, because europe is now disconnecting very rapidly. yes, before our eyes from russian energy carriers. she needs now not in 10 years, not in 20 years, nor in 20060

year, and now she needs energy sources from some sources. in addition to russia, and in order to replace russian energy carriers, it is necessary to revive those methods of obtaining energy. which were previously criticized, including by the authorities and these e-reactivists. i uh, in addition, let me remind you about the eco-active activists. the fact is that in terms of the exhaust of some kind of energy, there is tension in society. this is also, in a figurative sense, also a very good mechanism for in general, in the sixties and seventies, the radical leftists, who fought for social justice there, the radical rightists, who were there with russian or some other ideas, but also advocated ideas, there the sexual revolution again means radicalism, explosions of some kind of terrorism associated with this. and all this was a state where it

happened very, very unprofitable, very, very expensive, dangerously dangerous for the state system, but to translate this energy of protest into a convenient , such a convenient ideological concept. well they well, they come to some museum or so you say that this is something new or something that has not been seen so often. do you remember a few years ago there was such an organization. it was called ribel's extinction, which means the fight against the disappearance of the human race. they even organized in london and in some british cities. they organized such blocked roads organized mass protests. it doesn’t get to that now, but it’s much more convenient much more convenient for england for western countries than into some real protest. let's talk then not about young early protesters because of everything in the world, but hardened cynics, because i've been in the last couple of months. excuse me, i experienced it once or twice, when i look at western politicians who have been the last to us, well, they have been

telling us for five years, how good these windmills are, look. it's so wonderful. how have we been accusing them of hypocrisy for the last 5 years so that nothing will work out for you. everything you do? this is some bullshit, and now all the same politicians, who told us about windmills. they say that ember is a great topic, but about this in detail. a year ago, the eu heads of state declared that they intended to completely abandon the use of coal energy, and now the countries of europe, one after another, are mothballing their coal mines , one of them is great britain at the end of the summer. it is known that the country for the first time in 30 years begins coal mining at a new mine, and in september the moratorium on shale gas production using fracking was quietly lifted. this is the same method hydraulic fracturing, which is terribly harmful to the environment. we are lifting the moratorium on the development of our huge shale deposits. thanks to this , the lord flows in six months to those who

support. this decision is another european country that misses the coal. it was germany that back in the summer, the german authorities announced plans to revive coal-fired thermal power plants that were closed as part of the environmental agenda. and now the country is in dire need of brown coal, it became known at the end of october. the german authorities are dismantling a whole windmill complex of land power, north rheinwestphalia destroy them in order to expand the coal mine and mine more to suffer. maybe even a local village that has become a mecca for disgruntled eco-activists. this ca n’t go on no more, the need to destroy the villages of lisa and forests because of this damn coal is leaving renewable energy sources and the poles last tuesday the minister of state property. poland jacekian said that the country can not yet close its coal mines, as planned, at least until poland they will launch the first nuclear power plant, and

they plan to build the us and south korea jointly with warsaw, but this may take at least 10 years, but for now, according to sasin, the country will increase coal production, which is still clearly not enough. and yet no one could have predicted such a moment, oka people were left without coal, even if they were left without coal by coal balls, which could be used to heat stoves in winter there is no firewood. no, nothing coal, which i have left for the winter of 25 years in the mines, and i have nothing coal and nowhere buy. that's all. so nikolai vladimirovich do i understand correctly that the project that we called green energy is already being finalized and will continue to be quietly. a return to our traditional values. well, so far only energy. well, let's talk like that not at the level of slogans, which, again, easily go to the public, but at such an expert opinion of forecasts. but in principle, we know that

more than a million dollars have already been invested in green energy. and this is not only such a policy. there is such a green economic course that is shared. uh, as if in the form of a consensus yes , european countries and not only yes, european ones, these are already such well-knurled rails that we have been following for many years, that is, if you look. eh, there in the nineties we have one energy balance of europe and in the twentieth year for the first time they exceeded it in e, according to all sources, it is purely what we call energy, there 40-50%. we are now saying that a correction is coming, yeah, this global instability of conflict. well, correction, as it were soft definition stinks more hard that now uh at the position of defender in this topic. we stand up, uh, maybe, so to speak, but, let's say, vulnerable. yes, but it emphasized that if measured by long cycles, then this is certainly a correction; it occurs as a rollback as a temporary one. uh, the european union is the end of the project. no. well, i categorically

think not. and this is the first position, the second position. what we see now. uh, the fact that the european union was the european parliament voted for and then, to make recognize clean yes, nuclear, so to speak energy. where, respectively, we parliament votes, then this, of course, yes. well, that is, they are a. there has been a long discussion of recognizing not recognizing nuclear power there. it is clear that environmentalists are against it, and the reason is also understandable, respectively, we have concessions, correction, we have some local solutions in each country. really. here on this coal mine, where, in my opinion, there were windmills, just, but in northern uh they said uselessly, yes, that is, they come with conservation, a and it will have some amount there, uh, some then some kind of temporary phenomenon, and then everything will go gradually laughs, including for russia, too, a window of opportunity. there is also green hydrogen, so the pike is written off from the green economy. and you know

platz literally. yesterday i wrote about the fact that germany is disappointed with the pace of introduction of that same green hydrogen. they were going to organize 10 gigawatts of electrolyzers by the thirtieth year. they are lagging behind the plans for ex-imports are also lagging behind, but that's not even the point. i would like to point out that i generally agree. yes it correction, but in what sense? in the sense that european leaders are talking about what is happening with coal energy, that is, its revival, they have reactivated 13.5 gb of previously mothballed electric power plants. this is a temporary story. do not look here, we do not abandon our plans. and if you look at the plans voiced by the current leadership of germany, then it is, then these plans are more radical than you of the previous leadership. that is, if, for example, yes, well, it is greener than in what sense do we not take into account e here an important social implication, because merkel first

negotiated the lands, negotiated with the trade unions, and only after that her government decided that in the thirty-eighth year we will close all coal-fired power plants, when schultz came, he said guys. we are very green, so we will close everything by the thirtieth year trade unions, be silent you were not standing here. we are not interested in your opinion. and ah, and we are now coming, in general, to the next moment, what, and those that this is the green agenda, this green energy transition has already begun to receive a lot of crutches. here we agree that this is still a correction and the course itself is political. no, this is a correction, they have a political shortage of drugs, they have problems with substitution, including russian energy resources. yes, this is their main problem. now their main problem. now this green energy is possible, yes, if you finish, and this project of such a global green energy transition itself, it was initially a failure, that is, the only question would be where exactly it will break about nuclear

energy, which has already been recognized as green, in fact on the second of february, and in fact on february 2, the relevant decisions were made and on the first of january 23, and it will be recognized as green, they will also be recognized as green, just like the coal is recognized as green, but it doesn’t matter. the european parliament will say coal - this is, in general, enough greenery. naturally, nikolai nikolayevich nikolayevich, so she can start with an activist, you can go well, because after their lives, i understand that, uh, as activists, as defenders, too, there are different in form and in the form of action. let's say here we are we issue reports, conduct seminars, try round tables. sorry, i don’t know the picture, so it’s much more difficult to achieve what you told about this work and it would hardly be if these young people held a seminar, you would show about them for a percentage, not say a word, and i

hope that when they see such actions that are not close to me in form, people who see them think about the content that was voiced. i hope that they don’t think about the fact that these are some kind of morons that contained human food. will he be able to discern the topic from which it happened, in addition, i very often meet that people, especially young people, you basically showed young people very often want to, uh, their uh, legal requirements, because the topics on which they are inferior they have not gone anywhere and pollution. where you and people do not see. nikolaevich young people. they just want everything at once, because they are young people, it doesn’t happen that way, because they are young and still very much, but when it’s hard to say that i understand that maybe i will achieve this forty-eight, but maybe i won’t get it, so there is such a thing in russia when very often people protect their forest and river there, and the state does

not help them in any way. they are looking for what to do is a matter of dialogues. okay? yes why let's move the activists to the european governments. why then do they now cease to protect their forest and river, and begin again to clog coal from the atmosphere. now, what we're talking about, they're solving the energy problem. in four directions the first is cost savings, this is due to reducing the lighting of internal stores and everything else, the second is the search for alternative methods of supply. e traditional. uh, fuel, the next one is definitely and there is a decision, uh, by the european union on various incentives for e, push and development, renewable energy in their thirtieth year, if earlier it was planned that it would be 40% renewable energy without nuclear, that is, now already 45%, well, it's all the same, they took into account the energy directions well. which and the fourth is temporary. uh,

return to fossil sources. as far as they temporarily alone believe that a year or two. i think about a year. there is a saying no, nothing more further process further. what processes occur next processes occur. you know that there is a lot of production. e. equipment for the renewal of energy this is china in china is shrinking the cost of production. e equipment, that is, it will be easier, two two. there were two peaks there were two there were peaks that complicated the development of the relationship. consider it explain that it is temporary and so on. this is a general european global trend, because china will be with us just not yet. you said you would like to, yes, always, that is, after we looked at these stocks. or, as it's called, there are performances. vanya asked if the project is being finalized with this green one. uh, the energy economy, that is, for now

, here is the opinion that this is a temporary pause of some kind, nothing will continue, please. i would also like to say a few words about the activists. let's because they are different happens. here , uh, people who stick themselves to a work of art. well, just idiots at school are bad, they studied that way. they should be treated, in contrast, - he says - this is a tumbler who thinks the same thing that the girl in the event has grown wiser, learned the materiel did not go there to sharm el-sheikh at the conference of the parties said, because there politicians are carrying out green flushing i’ve already said to the brain of greenvushen for a long time, and last year they didn’t let her into the climate at all for a year and a half at all didn't hear. yes, that's why you haven't heard. you don't because she remained the task of asking the right questions she uh. okay, then i take my words back in a relationship, so activists are different, some stay with an idiot for life. yeah, she specifically says, oh, thunberg is somehow the same, she is evolving, and therefore, therefore, uh, therefore,

she is already being called putin's agent. by the way, there is growing growing concerns the government. tracking trend . they western western governments have begun their energy transition on quite understandable reasons they foresaw and will bring now. serious problems of supplying the universal economy with energy. they wanted to occupy a dominant position in the future world, where there will be a shortage, first of all of oil, of a dominant position and they want to do it. that is, ahead of time, of course, they began, under the promise of power grid technology. for a long time, 3-4 such basic technologies have been listed there. not created. this is a very heavy technology resulting from wind turbines and solar panels. can not close coal gas. they can

only integrate into the existing traditional energy system and parasitize on it, therefore, when a problem suddenly arises because after yes, humanity comes out and urgently needs energy for factories that start working , or because there is a problem in relations with russia, no exit. they would be glad to close the coal mines. stations and leave uh, only windmills are a physical impossibility. here, i here drew attention to e, the report, yes, and the accounting chambers of france and germany in 2020. they, as if people were not interested, said, you guys spent money, even the french, who spent much less wrong effect. here is such a zero. yes, as it were, well, small, but a lot of money was spent , in addition, i noticed, and i noticed french. uh, the german audit chamber according to the reviews of engineers scientists of the concept that use the german ministry of energy of the economy such a den

of supporters, and renewable energy is contrary to science. don't be confused about western politicians. they are ideologists. they have already abolished the laws of thermodynamics in their countries several times with their laws, so the parliament will vote, and i am sure that the national parliaments have already adopted laws that we guys, scientists and engineers from the power industry, cannot physically understand, you understand what it is physically we don’t understand. and you give us here then the conclusion is you have a certain pause or further and further technology allows windmills solar panels to other such similar ones, well, a renewable energy source is changeable take some share at the current level of technology development. in general, energy mexico, as they say, when you start to artificially inflate

this share, then you start to have problems, you start to have a problem, because you spend more and more money with less and less effect. that is, it’s like such a final story, like this , here i am, i don’t understand these cryptocurrencies at all. that is, they can be there in a limited number, something is normal, everything is fine , you don’t ask me, i won’t assume that i i don't ask it. is there such a direction in economics as behavioral economics right? so, there is the effect of sunk costs, this is the effect when it occurs, when you have spent some certain funds for some kind of goal, and if you have already spent them, you cannot refuse this goal. and if you understand that the dependence is peculiar, not everything works very well. in fact, everything works. uh, there will be a temporary pause. you correctly said that even a small step back can be, but nonetheless less than $5 to $6 trillion has already been spent on green energy. first, the money has already been spent. it's very hard to let go of them

. wait for 22% in the energy balance of 22% in europe, in particular, we already fill energy sources in electrical not in energy. i agree on one thing. sorry. then i will tell you 60%, then i agree with this, 60% of this volume out of these twenty-two is provided by firewood. why because firewood is a renewable source of energy in directive, resume from the point of view of the european union, firewood is a renewable energy source. they can be used. you are talking about the savior of forests indeed, but how long does it take to replenish the balance of forests, 30 years of green energy thirty years. yeah, 30 years is needed for this, so this is a small digression. all the same, they will move towards green energy, nothing will go away, nowhere. by the way, this directive will most likely be revised, most likely it will be revised. they will move in this direction. yes, now a small digression. yes, the fact is that you said the keywords. andrey vladimirovich, you want everything and everything at once and everything at

once never happens in green energy. that is why the period of the fifties and sixties is coming. that is why uh-huh, it takes time to move on and they will go to this. yes, some windmills will be removed now. yes , some coal mines will open now. yes, maybe they will vote for the fact that e and gas and oil and anyone will be green for a certain time, but movement towards energy. don't stop it will move. but if 60% is firewood for people who, that is, still heat firewood as part of green energy. friends told them. now you don’t pay tax as greens, but a person will say, and what will i drown with, and is not interested in the right green about money and so on money. we will now spend the money in the fact that there are physical limitations they are not interested in people like zelensky's personal enemies think i'm not afraid no who dreams of throwing the

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under the guise of caring for nature. the desire of our european partners to introduce a carbon tax under the guise of a climate agenda has already raised the concern of a number of states for the russian economy, the risks are obvious, in particular , such basic industries as ferrous and non-ferrous metallurgy may suffer. chemical industry energy after the imposition of sanctions and the refusal of supplies from russia problems with the economist has disappeared, but the west now wants to force russia to pay in a different way . at the same time, it is clear that russia will not trade to the detriment of itself. and the west in general risks being left without our energy carriers. in russia, it will not act contrary to common sense at its own expense to pay for someone else's well-being. we will not supply energy resources to those countries that will limit their prices. those who instead of business

partnerships and market mechanisms prefers cheating tricks and shameless blackmail i want to say that we will not act to our own detriment. that is, it turns out that, in my opinion, it was olaf-scholz who spoke relatively recently, a month there, maybe he once said that our well-being was built on cheap energy resources from russia. that is, it turns out that while we are on long-term contracts there, well, there 3 years ago, relatively speaking, they supplied this energy . everything was fine with them. it could be promoted. what agenda do you want? yes, including green there, will the situation change now, because, well, it is clear that our supplies will be reduced. now the situation is already changing. yeah, so they're going back to the super green hive, and listen here for the time being, the prevailing thing is that it's temporary. well , everything all the time, well, yes, as a result, it becomes constantly look, and green energy is good to say when you have cheap energy resources.

i want to have fun with the environment, when you always have the opportunity to start e, diesel generator energy is so beautiful, maybe even useful. from the point of view of the future, no one argues here, a whim that today is not able to provide. ah, sufficient amounts of cheap and constant energy without any climatic influence there, that they will freeze on windmills in the region and so on. and now, when actually cheap energy, suddenly disappeared. suddenly it turns out that green energy cannot fill it, but fill it in. and suddenly it turns out, again. let them not be offended by the ghetto of green energy, that the lion's share of green energy projects is stupidly laundering money, big money, money for various studies, big money, various implementations , and from the point of view of industrial development in european countries, which ensures jobs. yes, and then it was up to the state of the entire economy. green energy, as if the situation does not help much in this person at the top understand this, but below the people who were

killed in the head with this idea, they don’t understand this, and therefore these demarches begin. this absolutely. i do not agree with myself that with someone. this is precisely the demarche of people disappointed with their sincere faith, who are trying to somehow attract attention to themselves, but some, i don’t know, some pictures are simply glued to others by sex. museums are also involved, and they were also remembered, but, in my opinion, they are not on the topic of ecology. this is actionism. this is the actionism of people who have no culture, no respect for anything, but exclusively believers, just until i forget, but there is no sympathy for such forces, they stick to the pictures famous people don't call about it. i understood everything, yes, you can’t have good money. now wait. it 's just that vladimir sergeevich said that the money was spent. and how do you say that there is nowhere to refuse them. but this is not what georgievich was saying just now. he just used the phrase washing. of money. no. you understand when these

trillions are spent there. ah, there is no such rotten idea that we are now earning a little extra money, that they are sincerely investing this money there in development, in fact, well, there is a violation everywhere they have always been and are and will be man is man. let's be honest, it is the human e, properties of the human psyche that dictates this effect of irrevocable checks. if i spent the funds, i will not refuse it. what else will you invest in? you understand that you don’t understand this, that it’s not very relevant now to some extent, that there are some risks in this, and some kind of romance can move forward when a person is it . the fact is that 5-6 trillion is not 500 billion. this is a lot of money, this money is spent on research and spent on some areas. so to speak, including the development of these new resources. eh, no one can say no to that. and here is the story that you said, uh, about the uh, the price ceiling, in fact, the situation is

ambiguous. in the fact that the price ceiling is introduced in relation to e russian energy carriers, but besides russia, all pharmacies also supply plus and what , uh, they will also have to pay this one, so to speak, there is no ceiling, such is this very one carbon fee and so on and so forth. they had to embody because i met with the theory. you will tell me now, maybe it 's wrong that here are countries not burdened with a lot of resources, but the western countries of europe, the united states, is less of a degree. they have been looking at the globes for a long time and understood that there is some kind of injustice. here they are always so beautiful advanced. but the devil was not lucky with oil, and some incomprehensible, these sheikhs and arab russians, these unpleasant ones earn on oil, how to make it so beautiful that what they sell, then at least partially they returned it to us in money and came up with this carbon tax, and then, when the carbon tax on it began to collapse, because everything is now in in general, they think that this ceiling of value has arisen not for green energy, this is

such a theory of honestly taking money from the population. yes, it means, and look at what i'm sorry. now i'm going to jump into this conversation. and what is the irony is the carbon tax was introduced about several industries, it is these industries in the european union that began to crumble. after the energy crisis began. this fertilizer production is metallurgy. this is the production of cement. strictly speaking, in order to protect their domestic consumers. they introduced this tax and no more than that. actually , the situation is as follows . as you rightly said. let's be honest. each side is engaged. now on today on today's agenda protectionism. it takes this is the us not just because they sell. uh, your lpg. natural to europe is four

times more expensive. it's not just the way it happens. they are the mechanism, just like europe, they really see that they are losing in some resources. they are trying to introduce this tax. the problem is in another . the problem is whether they will pay it. yes , our president will not pay it, vladimir vladimirovich putin said, we will not sell oil and gas at non-market prices, if you don't want to buy, you don't have to, we'll sell it to india, they'll be happy to take it, they'll be happy to sell it to china in general, a number of countries are in line. do not want it was absolutely right . it was a protective measure to support their domestic industries, but after the domestic industries themselves collapse, and the introduction of this tax is a price increase, because it is less than goods, respectively, a price increase is an even greater crisis. i think that from this anyway will depart, the second story. why did they change their rhetoric like that? yes, everything is very simple, when you have a question, what do you need to heat, and a social institution, when people ask you, we don’t have light, but heat the rotation. well, drown. why not, can it be

flooded? here's why? at home, or why electricity costs endlessly and bad and unlimited number of questions about green energy, purely from a political point of view. he already, as it were, relegates to the background, respectively, and uh, everything that everything that was previously forbidden, on the contrary , for a while, the logic and economic and, accordingly , scientific and technological logic is clear to me, and there is absolutely no contradiction here, if we take as a basis that this is not one subject, but several subjects. there are people who are interested in promoting green energy, who have invested money in it, and it is not even so important for them that it all works, it is important for them that the value of their stock assets is as high as it is, and they are on this continues. that's how it works. there is, accordingly, a really scientific and technical logic of people who understand this, after all, when politicians say that we will take these 100 billion so easily, we will send it to renewable energy sources in those areas where it is required there, but this

is nonsense renewable sources energy depends. total from natural conditions. well, that's the basic story. well, you can’t put windmills where there is no wind, but solar panels, where there are no solar all these uh, a sufficient number of sunny days further there is a question. yes, they are inserted further about this a little. who says, here is the transportation of energy. here in these areas, it is much more expensive and much more difficult. it’s generally there, tryndets is full, unlike traditional energy, and so on and so forth. let’s take transportation to this chinese one, because it’s actually so unique, but in general, positive means, i mean, the world’s largest wind turbine park . it is located in china, it is located somewhere in the desert region. gobi is very strong there wind. and this allows you to produce a huge amount of energy. just huge back in 2009. the chinese invested in the project a large amount of $ 15 billion. it was planned that this wind farm with a capacity of 10 gb would provide energy to one of the poorest regions of china, guansu, but these windmills

generated much more electricity. what is required and more than half simply went into the sand , the project was then considered unprofitable and they wanted to freeze it in 2016, but the chinese authorities found a way out and built the highest in the world over 3,000 km long transmission line, and it went to a neighboring province. hunan. this made it possible to spend all the energy that is now being generated by china is not only going to increase the number of these wind turbines. well, install solar panels in the desert, and then this alternative park, in general, green energy will produce 450 gb in 2030 . china plans to become the world leader in green energy. but all experts are sure that if all this works out, the country will fulfill the plan earlier, after a couple of years, by the twenty- sixth year, viktor was rzhach. well, a good example , you understand, uh, everything that was said here? you can’t

force, uh, there’s a lot of space for solar panels, and at the same time, they don’t refuse coal. let's not forget that history with alternative energy sources. it is based not only on some opinions of eco-radicals or some other eccentric figures or governments, there is a fundamental problem. and those energy carriers that we now use. they are, of course, and oil and gas and coal. they will eventually end. these are not renewable resources. it won't be tomorrow. how to calculate in five years, in 10 years or in 15? well, just the story itself with the history of the problems that are now experiencing. this is the so-called green energy, and other forms of renewable resources are all very problematic. how much has been discussed here. this just says that in order to

prepare for the moment that will come sometime. calls through the decades when the resources which we are currently using will already be reduced so much that it will be important for the economies of the leading countries and not only other countries, and that we need to prepare for this. for years, this just shows that what we are saying now shows that in order to solve this problem in the future, it is necessary to prepare for it with it, we have been preparing very very well for now. why is the current crisis in europe so comfortable? of course, these attempts in the west are a crisis. this energy crisis, he is on them slow down for a while. ugh for a few years. maybe it's longer than 2 years, who say, it seems to me that 3 years is already 5 years. you are undoubtedly trying in many ways this crisis. uh, how would have turned out due to the fact that they are probably wrong. we started to prepare. here you see, here's to this problem,

because he's handy. now green energy for just one second europe depended on the russian energy carriers, europe's dependence on russian energy did not appear much earlier than europe began to engage in green energy back in soviet times. remember this yamal wire, a seam from the soviet union. this is a needle of gas. it was built in europe back in the brezhnev era, and europe began to depend on soviet energy resources. back in the seventies, that's before they started distributing significant decisions. they, apparently, did not quite start to get rid of this dependence, and therefore it turned out. now here is the result nikolai thank you for showing such a story about china, but in china, in addition to the economic component, with the help of the development of energy renewal, it is also being solved the ecological situation is very difficult in china and it is improving there. uh, life expectancy is improving accordingly, that is, the chinese authorities think it's not only about how to economically solve hundreds of chinese people in more

environmentally friendly conditions for a decade ahead. and the difficult economic situation there is becoming much better than it was, let's say 20 years ago, because for some reason everyone forgets that the development of renewable energy is caused. e, including natural causes, that e traditional energy sources pollute surrounding why in india there are more and more people, in addition, of course, renewable energy. this is a branch of the economy, of course, but a hero when you talk about the fact that huge millions were spent on some kind of research. and something, maybe, i don't even deny that maybe there was something. and stolen. well, you are unlikely to prove that in the oil, but also in the gas industry, there are solid altruists, and there, of course, no one has collected anything there either. of course you are focusing on development, and so called green energy or renewable energy sources and do, and

depend on this energy economy or energy, the whole. in a state like texas, for example, you will have to be sure that this energy will be cheap all the time. i didn't think that provided texas we had an occurrence in the studio. energy supply could be solved, but their remote localities that hold yes 100 billion undeveloped listen to the problem raikin solved a long time ago about a ballerina. remember, which is spinning, tie it to us. i think it is one and a half given inexpensive areas. i tell him, what do you want, i want to object directly, not in a european way. you say because. well, first of all, not a single percent, and since then, when there was 1% it's been 2 years and more hydroelectric power plants are not

green hydroelectric power plants. if we rank, then we will generally have 25%, and if we look, based on that very green taxonomy, which we talked about here is about green nuclear power plants and about gas, then nuclear power plants. we have more than a third installed capacity, green, like some are not green grass is green is not renewable natural are green green. this is green, there is no energy at all, so that the viewer understands what the green logic is, which the energetics of use for this explain approximately the following, that if we count in a normal way, then we get no less greener than all these different things, but they quickly turn out. that's about not polluting the environment in europe for 21 years, the screw association noted that they began to dispose of the blades of the power plant, which were installed in the zero years.

these are tens of thousands of tons and it is impossible to recycle them now. the issue of establishing an environment is such a delicate topic, what can we say, well, agree? i said during the operation they do not pollute only a woman. and you say, and then it doesn't matter. yes, it's just the way that matters must have seen the pictures. here are these how to say burial, right? behind, that is, this solution is not operating environment, so i will explain if you consider the correct constantine the risk of environmental pollution, living accident. no, wait, second of environmental pollution in case of an accident. on it on registration so much is so great that it is impossible to attribute atomic energy? why are the french with this famous sport true, what many believe, but when you remember the power plant?

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was completed today at 20:00. meeting place on ntv the question is this. what do you think green energy and well, let's say traditional energy, they are doomed to eternal conflict, or sooner or later some kind of balance will be found, i am convinced that gradually green energy will crowd out the traditional one, and in the world as a whole and in russia too, and, accordingly, it will be a reserve one, and the energy will remain that traditional generation, which is even called dirty, and coal, we see the example of china as a reserve fuel, as a source. uh, that is, they will remain, as it were, both, but in new probiosis, but the patient will change both the traditional and the so-called green energy. here's to a long time exist together and no bias towards green energy. in the foreseeable future, there will not be,

but green energy, the so-called alternative energy, and we and everyone else need to develop for the simple reason that energy consumption is growing due to digital technologies being used, so therefore we own huge energies sergeevich well, as colleagues already said, renewable sources are not renewable sources of finiteness, respectively, will be in any case, uh, the connection of interests and green and uh renewable sources and non-renewable sources will be quietly connected, of course, one will force out the other. so igor viktorovich as long as the problem, the energy sector will be solved by politicians, financiers, now there will be a conflict. if, due to ideological considerations, trying to kill nuclear energy somehow they tried to do it in europe , there will be a conflict. if you try to artificially send a lot of money. wind energy, unfounded, will conflict politics and financiers. they must stop commanding energy engineers to speak. we want, that you did it. this is what they should be inviting to tell the guys what we should do. tell

us if we have a chance vector zivchik as everyone understands that non-renewable energy sources, the ultimate main centers of scientific and technological progress will continue to allocate significant resources to the development of alternative sources and until uh, traditional sources act to be interactions of traditional sources energy and alternatives. i am generally in favor of keeping our planet as clean as possible and when i am told that my diesel car pollutes the air. i'm even ready to believe and experience it. i probably feel guilty, but when people tell me about this, who flew to the climate summit on two hundred private jets, which threw out 200 million times more in 2 hours than my one diesel car, how bad i am somehow i don’t really believe in it . i’m all about climate sabin, so at the world summit on climate change, a resolution was adopted recommending residents of absolutely

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