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evening, we start with the information of the correspondent of komsomolskaya pravda. let's see two collapsed spans of the antonov bridge, probably it was blown up during the withdrawal of the russian group from the right bank to the left bank. now there are no our troops on the other side, the enemy, apparently , has not yet approached this bridge from that side. according to the latest information, the armed forces of ukraine have already entered kherson. how will the situation develop further, what kind of negotiations? we want to lead from ukraine . moreover, here the west and the american elections, how their results can affect the whole situation around ukraine, we will talk about this in detail today. tigran let's start with you, and at the beginning, let's listen to stoltenberg's statement. russia failed in the north near kiev in the
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east near kharkov and now we see that ukrainian troops can push back the russian army in the south in kherson, the victories and successes achieved by the ukrainian armed forces are the work of the brave ukrainian soldiers, but it goes without saying that the support they receive from the uk fan allies and partners is also important. ukraine rejoices nato, heals. these are the statements of stoutomberg. well , it’s understandable why he is talking about this, there are nato weapons instructors. we understand everything. well, what do you think, what will you say after the situation? so i hope maybe this is a secret plan for lure. that is, exactly a week ago, do you remember we talked with you, you say that most likely this is a trap, right? this happened, this story happened, now we show that we can
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not resist the troops. it must mean that nato troops, having already lost all the shores, cross the borders of poland, slovakia, the czech republic, and that's it. the rest fill ukraine and here we destroy them all. well, something like that with napalm fab, and they run away in fright . well, because i don't have another plan, to be honest, because hmm, sad, well, sad, and do you know why the load, because it seems to me that it is not a correspondence, rum, but supported rhetoric in society and the real state of things? that is, as it were, this is an informational question for us, roughly speaking to you. well probably it is necessary or to forbid any information. and in order to either or or
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somehow build ukraine and do not be shy and do not be shy, the englishman put up a wonderful informational story, but in order to decide how to lead how to build , first you need to understand, are we fighting or not ? you do you think that we are not fighting under the stop? yes? this is on all levels of power. yes, we must understand for ourselves whether we are at war or not? you understand this question, as it seems to me, it may seem insulting, to those boys, guys, peasants in heaps on the front line, of course, who ship the 200th and 300th and heroic deeds themselves die there, but now you can imagine to what extent. it may be offensive to them. if they begin to understand more and more, the gap between their reality, where the motherland sent them and this
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our peaceful reality where nothing happens. where for some reason after such a departure. i have a lot of questions, a lot. i, like the whole society, ask questions, unfortunately, i do not receive answers. and it's not military secrets. i want to know, i don't want to know the secret plans. no , i want to understand, because in this innuendo appear very well, used cultivated, that is, by the side of history, or maybe an agreement. or maybe here's a grain deal, but maybe, here they didn't answer. and now it's been 4 days no one bombs kiev infrastructure, no one paid attention, four or five paid attention. that's how they left kherson, but they didn't shoot in the back. ukrainians, they tell us. well, in the sense of passing. uh, well, they say, no one else tells us. well, there
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was just a huge amount of information from the front line tonight. they were just shooting. yes, they shot incomprehensibly. that is, it is true or not true, but nevertheless the information was converged means the statements of all. here is ryabkov today. yes we are open to civilians without any conditions. here i am as a citizen, what should i think. yes, i think as a citizen. well, of course, not a professional citizen is an incompetent citizen. well, just a citizen from the position that i can break for the motherland, and in general, i confirm this, as it were, with my professional life. this means that against the background of the withdrawal from kherson against the background of the non-return of the northern territories, we mean the ear against the background of the crimea, the most penetrating battles. and so far, the fight in donetsk is very hard. we are talking about such negotiations, i don’t know. and therefore, since i still believe in my country and
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my power as a state institution. i believe, i still believe. i think maybe this is the plan. i can't offer anything else, but look. well , let's see, here are the shots yes, surovikino's report to the minister of defense. in fact, we listened very carefully, and he was the commander of our grouping that he might make a difficult decision , and we understood what decision he was talking about. he told us about it long before yesterday, we understood correctly, but we hoped. yes i now here, i think that everyone had the same, probably, condition. yes, that is, we understood with the mind, but at the same time we hoped that it would not come to this, but nevertheless it means, and here you are. yes, look, it
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is proposed to engage in defense along the left bank of the river, we will save the dnieper. the most important thing in the life of our military personnel and, in general, the combat capability of a group of troops due to maneuver is to free up part of the forces that can be used to attack in other directions. that is, in basically, everything is clear to us. or a grouping that is located on this shore is difficult to supply with ammunition. yes, it is difficult to supply it. and we risk losing it, so we'd better do it. well, since, in fact, they are proposing surovikin and the minister of defense said, yes, that is , such a maneuver with explanations this time. at the same time, surovikin must be given his due, if this was a forced decision that was the result of, let's say, some mistakes, then these are definitely not his mistakes. this corollary is correct in general. he did not betray this consequence, and he nevertheless understands that he will leave his own
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reputation at stake. maybe there, i don't know, but a career or something else that he does. this statement is reported to the minister of defense. the decision is made by the minister of defense, and sergei borevich agrees. in your opinion, this is the correct maneuver. competent or not? well, here's the answer to the question. actually it answer three questions. what happened, why did it happen and what's next? that's what happened. this can really be called a regrouping with a greater reason than uh, a retreat in the kharkiv region. uh, where the retreat took place under the pressure of you direct hostilities. and under pressure 10 there was no battle of clashes, there was no forceful pressure, but here there really was a regrouping to the other bank on the left bank. and for which there was some plan. eh, this plan. we do not fully know, but we can assume, most likely, here is the second question. what for? most likely, there
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are actually two intentions here. first, is the creation indeed some kind of diplomatic atmosphere conducive to intermediate negotiations. it 's not, negotiations. yes, well, yes, why, but there is and some second plan aha for which looms reproduction of the historical situation that was in 1600 e, 86. this is the 17th century, uh, and which led to the division of the territory of present-day ukraine between , uh, the russian state on the one hand. well, and so on speech, the commonwealth on the other hand. just the section was exactly along the dnieper, the left bank, and the entire left-bank part then went to russia. right shore here in the western side of the speech. i think, i think, i don’t know, yes, that this is a kind of return to
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the fact that there was a division along the natural water line so, uh, which uh, can be reliably fortified and defended, uh, which has some kind of historical co-culture there. any grounds in the past and which may be such e. at least as an intermediate result of existing military operations, uh, such reflections i want to say again that these are some kind of guesses based on observed events. and i think that after two important and still small intermediate acts, firstly, this is a meeting of the g20 group where lavrov is going and where he is taking a serious team and where there will be many behind-the-scenes various kinds of consultations, but. secondly, at the end of the facial expression with the front of the chopsticks at the end, he still did not say anything, the prices are already
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clear. at the end of november, there will be another meeting between the delegations of russia and the united states; in general, there will be a question there, but under the start treaty. uh, but, but no one's stopping anyone . in the same place, without advertising, talk about and their plots, and what else convinces me convinces with a very responsible and serious statement by general mark milet that he is the chairman of the committee of chiefs of the joint committee, a very important figure in the american hierarchy. let me remind you that mark miles. uh, he worked with three presidents with obama with trump and now biden enjoyed everyone’s trust and will wait for more and wait for the fourth president and he has vast military experience and participated in several companies and this is the most significant figure in the military community in the military class of the american usa
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they see signs that russia is indeed leaving kherson. you are talking about this, but a statement. there he has a simpler stabilization of the front line, in winter there may be a window of opportunity for yes you mean yes for negotiations to end the conflict, when there is a possibility of negotiations to achieve peace. take advantage take advantage in such circumstances, this is very strong advice and now disagreements have arisen. see how interesting that's mark miles. this sullivan military community is the intelligence community and the national security council and state department yes, uh, the state department is atlantic uh, radicals. yes, it means e mark miles, what is advised to open the doors to ukrainians are advised to open the doors for negotiations? yeah, and sit down at the negotiating table sullivan to open the doors to the shores, that is, to confirm readiness in principle. yes, do not sit down at the table without a command, and finally, the state department, the door does not open, the table does not sit down to fight further. here. eh, this is some such moment of such internal
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contradictions, but in the end the general's point of view will prevail, i'm almost sure of it. yes but here because now the most weighty in these is the same question as the tiger. she why with these position? in what territories they can transfer why kamaz when you have to believe that this is our great country through hardships and difficulties, waking up from khrushchev's thirty-year even more than sixty-year-old lethargic start can still show the strength of another option and another attempt. can't imagine this anymore. and you say miles, yes, we should be put on the police, what is a mile to me? i advertise it, how do you think about your country, and not about what mi said, i think not. i'm studying
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going there. that's how we look at ivan the terrible where it's going. do you understand what is happening there? come on, it's you, they say, this is the most terrible secondary, from which each of us needs to get rid of. we are bast shoes. they know this business. that's how we are for now. we will live, we will not trust the situation to the moment and actually. you must know your business and look well. it is necessary popovich sergey borevich. listen to me. we know very well, in fact, what they dream of, what they are planning and how they think and we must pay tribute to these guys. they act well done they just more than once never rule sergey borisovich we want to achieve this goal. we want to achieve this goal and this goal if we have to spend a million. yes, the sky is some dollars,
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we will print them, we will spend, we will put them, and so on and so on. and that's when we all know what they're saying. michael michael asks the question. on what terms? come on, come on right. on what conditions, because those conditions about which do they talk and what does it say with sense? as the same these are the conditions that, but this is not exactly our condition, as far as actually. today we can dictate some conditions. here's the big question. do you understand? how is this thing? yes? i'm listening to maikov yes, of course, i don't share sergei risovich's optimism, because yes, the statement was largely meaningless, because what he says is negotiated better than without negotiations. you understand, this is how peace is better than war. this is obviously freedom but better than no freedom and so on, because there is a huge catch approach what conditions, of course, what to do when to dig? what are the conditions and then the negotiations are already you- that is, uh, disappear, because this is obviously impossible to fulfill.
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wait, michael, i can’t hear from you either, because if only these negotiations would disappear. as you say, we would not hear endless statements. in fact, from your own people about these negotiations. and i just look here, here it is. is it that dynamo did not understand that delusion is needed? yeah and uh, gotta do it now remember the words of zelensky because it is very revealing, yes, when he signed the decree that ah, ukraine will not negotiate. in the meantime , vladimir vladimirovich president, yes, and this, of course, is a very harsh statement. we have another that suddenly appeared. you understand that it did not appear suddenly, i explain after that, right? or they are again, which means that you are pushing
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this story through negotiations. let's look at zelensky, let's just remind you, mmm. explain to me why all of a sudden he rose his position. yes, let's go, let's command the door to open the table does not sit down the door. i said that we are ready to talk with russia, but with another russia, one that is really ready for peace, one that is ready to admit that they are occupiers. they need everything to return the land about you freedom money. and most importantly , justice, and so far i have not heard such statements from the russian federations. no, there is no putin , no one, that is, at the beginning he says that there are no negotiations, then they pass a law for a second that prohibits any negotiations. then this murky story begins. sally ivan from where do we get information from the italians, in my opinion it. they taught, yes, about all these negotiations or from someone else, it doesn’t matter, and then zelensky appears who, but says that no,
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please, yes, it’s another matter that it’s not clear what kind of russia he is talking about, this is some other russia generally invented by mr. zelensky, but, nevertheless, the position has moved. so listen, yeah, judging by your post, they sucked on a source on line sources in the white house that washington is very edgy zelensky they told him that well, volodya you you put it too harshly. it repels allies. that is, it is necessary to show, as it were, an imitation to show that you are ready. yes, it's just so safe, but categorically it is, of course. okay, i have no problem. i pretended. i'm fine. all imitations. i pretended that i was ready for negotiations, but only under absolutely obviously unrealizable conditions. this is some kind of trolling, that is, in russia it must stand on lap. and repentant reparations withdraw uh, the entire army and so on. of course, that's right. this is trolling. this is courage a and he said. yes, i
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got a little excited, and i'm ready for putin, but only with these e, we will certainly not fulfill them conditionally , saying that to make the negotiations meaningless. well , maybe it’s spiridon palych, but at the same time, look, but really in the information space the word contract is one of the most common today. at the moment, this is the time, and moreover, you know which strange thing. here on i watched the situation. and you, too, probably follow. yes, for the ukrainian telegram channels there, for example, they could not believe their own happiness, they did not understand what was happening at all. they, too, thought that maybe it was some kind of trap, or maybe it was the result of some kind of agreement there, and they wondered what exactly zelensky had promised in return. uh, in fact, ours for our withdrawal from kherson yes, hmm, there is a statement, see here is my
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statement, for example, natalya gumenyuk yes, she same speaker of the operational command newk. watch what she says staged show with the proclamation so serious. to difficult decisions, this is a long-understood method of justifying oneself; it can be an element of an information-psychological operation in order to create an erroneous impression of the true intentions, that is, they could not believe that this could happen and they, well, you know, were in no hurry to enter kherson sent footage that they were there, that someone there was already meeting them with flags. this is what we have all seen. and yes, and here. oh, how interesting, and look , the russian ministry of defense is now declaring that under the accumulation of military equipment of the ukrainian army on the right bank of the dnieper , a fire defeat is being inflicted. uh, and yes, yes, i don't know, just the extent of this fire
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damage. we will argue, yes, that is, they are too. apparently, if this is an agreement, then they were not aware of this agreement. and now we are trying to understand what it is. i'll try the thesis, i'll probably start with surovikin's report. he was on his own in fact, it is no coincidence that in the public sphere it is shown and approved by the minister of defense, who made the decision. that is what i want to say about the fact that by all this they tried to show you and me that this is not a political decision. and this is an absolutely military decision, which was made on the basis of rationality and so on. yes, that is, so that there are no such illusions about agreements, not agreements, and so on now about agreements. look what story you yourself are telling about the fact that zelensky well, not what you say zelensky banned himself by his decree negotiate, and then all of a sudden it. well, even on unacceptable ones. as michael says in conditions, but he is ready to negotiate with russia, what
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caused it. this was caused by the position, the united states of america in what? pay attention no mike here then listen to the end. note. how do americans about it. they said they actually put pressure on ukraine and justified the need for ukraine to make such a decision in order to actually deceive the europeans, who should continue to finance ukraine, that is, they they say that let's sit down at the negotiating table and settle. they say that you should declare this so that our western partners would see that, apart from the military path, there is an alternative path - negotiations, so that they continue to finance you, because they could not have said this. it seems to me that this is an absolute humiliation of europe itself. that is, you openly declare to their faces. yes, we convinced the ukrainians that they made such a decision to deceive you. and you continue to finance this et- er this country
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now er about leaving the right bank. same not just a story about kherson for you to understand, yes, because it was valuable for the military as a bridgehead on this right bank. this was a springboard for a possible offensive on nikolaev to odessa and in the krivoy rog direction, that is, you can already forget about all this, that is, they are already absolutely calmly talking about the possibility of opening another port in nikolaev itself as part of a grain deal, that is, they understand that the shelling of kherson could be much more significant. than the shelling of the same nikolaev, this is what you just said last information. what will it continue to shell? yes, there will be fire defeat, uh, artillery duels and so on, but this will no longer concern the only one of nicholas, because it will not be advisable to do so. let's take a break for just a minute. yes, we will return to this
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premiere on sunday at 22 this program is true, we continue to talk with our guests about the situation around ukraine, we continue to sing. now , whether negotiations are underway or not, negotiations do not stop for a single day. it's just that it's not political negotiations at the highest level. yes, but in relation to the exchange of prisoners. how do you think he going without without without negotiation? no, of course, this is also a platform for negotiations. the economic
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component. how is it? how is it? how is it happening? are there negotiations or not? well, here it is to understand the situation in general. in ukraine, 100% of almost all regions are provided with heat , the question arises from where the coal volumes of coal for understanding this ukrainian thermal power plant exceed last year's twice? here, twice the volumes of gas entering the storage of ukraine exceed the volumes that they use from there during the autumn-winter period, the question arises where you goes? that is, you have the same question, are they at tigran, are we howling or not fighting? no, i just want to understand when we discuss. why does an event occur. it cannot be discussed separately from the processes that you may not want to talk about, but it seems to me that it is necessary to talk in order to have an understanding of the picture in general, why this or that event occurs or does not occur, this or that event that someone waiting just to take
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some fragment separately and discuss it. well, you know , fool yourself, so from this point vision. it seems to me here, uh, after all, uh, it remains to explain, it remains for the guys on the front line to explain at least to this guy. i now want to show him, which grenades are and the shares of grenades heroically completely show this video. yes, you need to explain to him and thousands of people like this guy about whom tigran spoke, who fights and accomplishes a feat every day. yes, i understand correctly, they want to understand what is happening. well , we're trying to find out. what are the negotiations about which we are told, what are these negotiations and about how? basically, you can talk. to be honest, i can’t understand this, because you literally know right away that in fact, the territories are not interested at all, neither ukrainian nor russian. i am interested in people who live in these territories, ordinary people living there in ukraine, and those who did not leave somewhere did not run away somewhere. they stayed there. here are
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the leaflets, please, do they not hide the population of kherson, what will happen there? rise people of kherson whoever does not rise is the enemy of ukraine and has never been ukrainians. and this is for comparison of the leaflets that the germans threw. actually. yes, when they stood on the outskirts of moscow , in principle, that's it. one and the same, yes, everything is the same, but look, and sergei and the representative of the state department, there is no price list, which means that he says. and what is needed from russia to see the readiness for negotiations because ukraine has already demonstrated its willingness to negotiate. this is such a half-clouded statement by zelensky, as far as i understand, russia needs to see readiness for negotiations. i'm here and one more thing that i don't i understand that we have been talking about these negotiations since day one. well, from the very first day, we were right
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all the time without preliminary, only the wording was no longer sounded, and at the beginning on some kind of conditions of our own, then without preconditions, then under the existing realities. that's it. brilliant. well, it just sounded. we are ready to negotiate under all the existing realities there, well, and so on. yes, and so, ah, but it turns out that, like, we are talking, they don’t hear us. here's what to do with it. this may also be a game. some kind of our demonization, you see, and let's say the people of europe are talking about what they say, before people got it. europe or american people there look, right? now you understand exactly who is the absolute universal zoo here, because this unfortunate ukrainian people, together with their unfortunate, but war-weary president, are ready to negotiate in spite of everything. but this one here. uh, putin is terrible and these evil russians are there for
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these negotiations. you see, they still haven't made any clear statements. maybe this the whole game here again is such a demonization of russia . well, let's try to figure it out. well, let's start with the fact that, of course, what the price says no. well , listen to this one like this, and a man with a car, i wouldn’t betray much importance at all like what he says, and moreover, if we look at what was said in the white house administration uh-huh in the state department, and in the department of defense it is in the pentagon intelligence agencies throughout this month. here i'm sure your editors could put together here. herbarium here are all these quotes, and you are you saw how they did not fight with each other. i mean, it all changed. what is the conclusion of the strategy? no, everything is very situational, everything is unpredictable and that's it. everything is reflex. everything depends on some things, so to speak, that we do not understand.
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now let's figure it out. still. why such a word negotiations? why is it splitting the audience here, it would seem that it should, but bring people together and the same thing explained everything and the same thing happens. this is good, of course. see peace is always better than war. this is obviously history. but the question is as michael said in terms. here i will try to clarify this issue, by the way , the word negotiations, and in our society it acts like a red rag on the bull and others try to grab onto it, like a saving straw. so, no matter how the ukrainian conflict ends, everyone sitting. standing sitting here you know that any conflict is any war, yes , negotiations always end, but the question arises, when the subjects from you sergey borisovich yes told us about negotiations, but with territorial ones. how should you call it
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be negotiated, but there are always territorial concessions. yes, there has been any formula for settlement, post-war throughout history has always been peace in obmo-territory. yes , well, i actually agree with this, but there are some fundamental things. let's talk about them here for the first time, because everyone is talking about negotiations. well, i don’t know in the articles in the studios, well, everything doesn’t clearly point the water. let's go now, maybe for the first time. let's try. so. see see when any conflict starts. i don’t know palestine, israeli conflict, karabakh i don’t know the balkans when diplomacy dies, someone never decides someone uh-huh, there are no other means besides military, when the conflict ends, when the parties understand that this is a military tool, people in camouflage, who have come to the
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forefront can no longer solve anything and then this is dead diplomacy. she is reincarnated, so to speak. she is reborn. she comes out and everything. that's until one of the parties has belief is that she is using forceful military methods. maybe something to solve no negotiations will not be this senseless shaking of the air. let's not even discuss it. you see, there is now a kind of stalemate. yes , so to speak, everyone interprets it differently, but hmm, sergey surovikin's statement is different. yes , i wrote about this today, not only a statement, right? in our group, you know, i'll tell you. so. i'm not a military expert at all, but i'm a journalist. i think i'm not a complete idiot. and that some insight i have, i watched him say it, and i looked at his facial expressions. yes, and i thought it was true. here is what he said, it was maybe tough, but an honest analysis, i believed him. i
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believed that there is no double bottom here. you understand when you're driving, yes, and you suddenly. well, i don’t know, the alternator belt bursts, the engine boils. you are forced to stop so as not to screw up the engine, so that a normal car does not jam you. you need to stop, and not reap, just stupidly on gas because the couch troops want our victory. yes, that's where we were waiting, why are you delaying, why are you not fighting like that? in this sense, right now, of course, it is pointless to talk about negotiations, because it has not yet been exhausted. e vera one of the parties may be in a military victory by military means. what is the end of the side? well, now the courage of kiev as you can see, yes, unemployment and finally two words with the same root, but negotiations and agreements. uh-huh, you killed me. i don't understand what a deal is. here look, look means, and here
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us so, uh, 9, and the guests and the host, one of the most experienced journalists in russia, yes, so if it's like someone says, it's an agreement. i ask one question after another, but the agreement is on whom and with whom the sides of this. let's agree on the united states and russia, this is russia and ukraine, then this is politics. this is military. eh, further agreement, about what about what? here. this is a deal. in his sense, yes. and most importantly, in the conditions that everyone agreed in clinches. yes, yes, in fact, a tough implacable clinch, what kind of agreement can there be, except for some kind of active emotional commercial circle of the word. if someone can explain to me, please, but friends, think about the fact that we often fall into conflict with you. and how would it be. well, that's the inertia of the conspiracy theory. this is still soviet times, so to speak, yes. here's someone secretly talking a lot
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when you ask specific questions. who? well, we know. well, someone, there with someone about something, this is not an agreement. do you know who spoke to someone? who negotiated you know when i am please, sergey we agreed, now we will answer. and i have such a concept. for a second, now everything will be calm and you present the negotiation process as an alternative to war, but in fact the negotiation process is very often used as an instrument of war. we went through this name. no , here i am, we’ve been going through this since 2014 , when we were convinced that a process of negotiations was underway that should bring the desired result to resolve the conflict, and we all
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believed in this for eight long years. actually for these for a long 8 years, fortified areas were built, re-equipped from the army, an offensive was being prepared, and so on and so on and so on, you understand, therefore, when you say that the alternative in war is negotiations. this is not an alternative to ending the conflict, i agree it will be negotiations. well, provided. if there is a victory for one of the parties, but just to agree, it is impossible. you look at the positions of the parties, not me. that's what i was talking about, you don't understand, right? don't agree with me talking to hell, who has it is diplomacy, who works for it diplomacy here actually you are talking about the same thing friends you are talking about the same thing. now for a second, the same minsk agreements. let me talk about how they appeared, how these minsk agreements appeared. they are the defeat of ukraine quite right
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, boilers and everything else, so they signed them, yes, yes, and sergey says, roma about this. he says, if there are any negotiations or there are some agreements, who is with whom and about what, because this is also a game for a thin sergeyevich that let's cue. this is not true, dear friends, that any war ends with negotiations; war is accompanied by negotiations; moreover, the whole point. wars are forced coercion to negotiate during the war of the fatherland ended by force forcing each other, because we agree and then see the meaning of war negotiations now at first because it did not work out. the beginning of the swoo, it was that in my mind. it was peace enforcement, and it worked. you see,
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after after the start of his was, if you remember, if the istanbul process, it worked some moment, they realized that there could be a big large-scale war, yes, we are ready, let's sit down, discuss the points, agreed, signed, left, and then boris johnson says. no no no, wait, wait, what are i talking about, what do you guys understand about the war? this is the problem and when we say we can start the negotiation process, we can sit down, we can agree, we can implement, but i know, to be honest, i just remembered, yes, the great patriotic war. ended in surrender negotiations, of course she negotiations. for a second, it did not end with such negotiations; there was no coercion to any negotiations. it was they who signed the act
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of unconditional surrender. that's all. that's all, and then, in principle, as they say, it's understandable, but here they tell us when it is necessary to fight, as you understand, so, yes, there is popularity when transit oil cannot go. not gas oil not hungary anywhere no obligations to western partners should be closed, as spiridon said, coal cannot be at all carpet. well, i now have one more question. another question i'm very interested in, of course, all of our rich. guys. we know them all by name. tell me maybe i missed something somewhere fighting a battalion named after one of these oligarchs or each of them has a battle. which they fully supplied with everything, there and so on, because, for example, i look at the same ukraine at the same ukraine and i see how there,
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maybe not of their own free will, maybe they are being forced, but however, they are all fully invested in this war to the fullest, this is all we have, none of this is happening. i do not continue to deal with all these businesses. well, why the question of the investigation from businessmen ends citizens do not say that get up is a huge country. we are afraid of this slogan. that's all. sorry, pavlovich changed his mind now. i still want sergeevich to answer sergeinovich. and so, about what kind of negotiations can be about which they tell us the question was, what was the result of the secret miner? what is the result? what is the difference between contract and negotiations, you know really 90% of our population. why don't you know dear journalist? the difference is one if an agreement is concluded in the name of the interests of a narrow group of people, their vested
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interests, and are given, while the interests of the state are an agreement. our country, alas, faced with this enough to remember khasavyurt, so the fear of an agreement has been and will be. unfortunately, in our country this must also be taken into account and not thought that people, if they are afraid of an agreement and see suspicion of an agreement everywhere, then they they are stupid couch experts or something else. they 've been burned so many times already. that's why you need to talk to these people honestly, but if you allow it now, as i understand it, 50.000 immediately after we return to the studio after a little advertising. you will complete your goal. now, interruptedly , we will return to the studio in a few minutes. let's continue the conversation with our guests. reliability biatti tires strength in reliability the
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agree with you. do you know at what moment in what place? when you said about khasavyurt yes , you read very often now, yes, you look and all the time here is khasavyurt khasavyurt, that is, they have already burned themselves once and just people are afraid that we will step on the same rake again. but khasavyurt is here. let's remember. let's remember the same khasavyurt that we signed in a good life, then we signed this agreement then not from a good life. do you think the swan was delighted that he had to negotiate there with the leaders, and the terrorists. no, he was not happy. we know the swan. many personally knew him , but he was not enthusiastic, but we clearly understood that at that moment we could not do anything about the information war. we lost then, because it is easier to work on the part of the chechen fighters than on the part of the grouping of our troops, this whole
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story did not work. as a result, all the broadcasts were packed exclusively with their picture, their statements and their own agenda, but on our part it didn’t work, but then it was not the hubbert treaty, then there was the second chechen one and ended, glory. god that the chechens are now defending our interests . roman georgievich completely agrees with you, only two clarifications, in spite of everything, the vast majority of our citizens. i think it is fair to consider the khasavyurt agreements as a betrayal, no matter what they say, what the conditions were, and the second, and they in no way i think. uh, the resolution of the chechen crisis, which led to the fact that chechen fighters are now fighting like this on the territory of ukraine there , the khasavyurt agreements, it was the result of a completely different policy that vladimir vladimirovich putin began to pursue and it gave the
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result that it gave, they are natural the development of khasavyurt, if khasavyurt developed naturally, we would now be blazing all over the country. so here's where i disagree, and now back to ours. eh, still the topic is completely i agree with what was said here, and according to the events of the 17th century, when it all began. i said that goals can be set. well , it does not follow from this that you are guaranteed to reach the goal of tsar alexei mikhailovich. he set the goal of freeing the orthodox people of ukraine from the polish yoke. well, alas, it was possible to release then. only after the bloody war, they deprived the guard part, and all of ukraine was liberated from the polish yoke. this is a fact only after 100 years, but there is another side to it. about these negotiations an agreement and negotiations with the west, what is needed from us now. what is the purpose? he puts we don't even build, we
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always need one no, exactly. at the moment, sometimes they need to agree, when they understand they can’t destroy, now they need to destroy us. they say it openly. therefore, what will they do next, even if we are now agreeing to freeze the front line there or something else. will they calm down? no? this means that they will blow us up from the inside and they will blow us up from the inside. through what through the distrust of the people in the authorities around, treason around, betrayal will be used in full, the algorithm has already passed its history more than once. quite right. algorithm in february of the seventeenth year, these are the crowds that rushed around petrograd. they were all filled with patriotic enthusiasm. because the authorities do not allow victory, the authorities betrayed miliukov's famous speech stupidity or treason stupidity all this
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we remember. don't we realize that now that's why the script will run the enemy. look it is already being promoted on the same telegram channels in them. therefore, you need to be aware of the danger , you need to understand that the main danger. we are threatened here from within and prevented. this can only be done through honest politics and honest conversation with the people. people need to know what they are dying for. for which their husbands and children risk their lives. this is a completely different conversation and the authorities knew how to talk like that in the forty-first year, but sometimes they didn’t know how to talk. let me remind you that in the xx century. we had three mobilizations. in the fourth year in the fourteenth year and in the forty-first year. in the first two cases, this mobilization led to the fact that we had a well-
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known defeat in the russo-japanese war and the first revolution in february of the seventeenth year. why is it largely due to the fact that those who were mobilized? and those who remained here did not understand what they were fighting for and constantly suspected that there were some other interests there, that i did not shed blood not for the sake of the fatherland, but for the interests of this or that money bag. here is a danger, and in this danger one must speak openly and prevent it and the rules about it are open. and yes, we are doing the right thing . but i would also like to see, for the sake of justice, we lost to the germans in the forty- first on mobilization that is why we mobilized later, therefore we reached moscow well, you see, we were the germans in organizing the mobilization. yes, i was not talking about the organization of mobilization. i was talking about something else, but
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the motivation is that when you call on the people, the war should be people's, of course. now there is information that the president, but he was supposed to actually communicate with those whom mobilized correctly? here are all the events around kherson in one way or another affect the mood. this is understandable, and including the mood of those guys who went under this mobilization and should be here tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, as they say, to be in combat positions, this topic should also, probably, be raised. what do you think. andrew you know the problem. that's just the motivation of what, in the context of what i'm talking about, i'll tell you. i do not know, i am very, of course, with great pleasure. now sat listening, peers, i'll talk about things, probably very unpopular, we begin to forget. really. why is there a war operation? what was the main ideology assigned to you at the beginning of denocification. do you understand? by the way, i never, spiridon pavlovich well, i follow the news from kiev and what is happening very carefully. only for yesterday's news from the
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kiev city council about the abolition of the russian language, including even in preschool institutions and at the same time. about pushkin’s downfall throughout ukraine, why do it today at the universitetskaya besy metro station, well, honestly, yes, that is, even when i see it, it’s all about memory and asking. i interrupted you, yes, but about the monuments about the russian language, but i have a different wording. no, they are really pissed off people. it's amazingly simple , yes, but look, they took such special wooden ones. in pieces, it means the image of gorky, mendeleev lomonosov and someone else and someone else, and at the same time we are observing what is happening with pushkin, at the same time we are observing what is happening with catherine in odessa is a monument to ekaterina suvorov here and there, we see all this, but nevertheless you know, if i
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caught on what, on what, it doesn’t surprise me at all, it doesn’t surprise me at all, because i thought that we actually, but should put an end to this. i still think so, and i told you, we kept silent about the situation. the end it's not about how we perceive it, you need to understand that this is not an excess of the performer, but a completely clear fulfillment of the task and the logical task. when you remove the russian language from the pupils of preschool institutions, you recreate certain dialogues that you will go through life with them, for which you bring up nazis from an early age as a ukrainian nazi in a state where there will no longer be any creation, because the state lives exclusively on foreign money. this is a reproduction of a soldier. a soldier of the reich is still every azov who will hate the russians, who will be sent to the front. today you will sign an agreement with them about something, you will get a problem and a war in 2 years, in three years you will be in plain text. they say that weapons will be supplied in any in a case, in a year, in two, in three, for whom to go for
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weapons to pump them up, they will still be sent to this war, for example, it jars to me that you have a division of the armed forces. you have conscripts. you have contractors, we have mobilized, for some reason we have mobilized, it deduces one category of soldiers, that is, if a contract soldier died, a mobilized one died, this is even entertained in the press for some reason in different ways. what kind of division of people is this? you can now walk through the city of moscow and go find people there who live in their lives, this great, but this is not a war of cysism. what are you talking about the struggle for survival. you know who i can most of all look for from my own experience of the moscow region, who is more likely to help the front now, most often these are people who came from ukraine who have seen. this is with their own eyes, who have relatives there and who understand what they encountered, they understand that you are these stories about executions and executions in kupinsky, in contrast to the fact that muscovites perceive these are not fakes. and this is the torture of the murder of torture - this is really what it was from 80 years ago. we have here
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still a huge part of the population. and what is the most terrible huge part of the leadership of businessmen, they do not understand at all. what is this about. and what is on the map. and i say, it’s true, my dears, you will get the same course, belgorod you will get the same course, because there are no tasks for ukraine when the united states of america declares some of its goals. they deprive, they are absolutely pragmatic, but they are pragmatic, guys. these pragmatic guys, pragmatic goals burned down keroshima and nagasaki, they will burn down your cities. they kill millions of russian people. nothing personal only the business of the performer will be ukrainians, for whom no task has been left, the ceasefire in ukraine is not a priority for nato in the current conditions everyone wants the war to end this by our conversation, but if ukraine stops fighting, it will cease to exist, a if and as an independent nation, and if russia stops fighting, then peace will come and
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stoltenberg talks about it, and that's exactly what they want to move us to, well, this again, these are from the evil one, all these conversations with an attempt to deceive us. you are big, you are nobler, you are stronger, you are kinder, and therefore no. you don't think that if you now yield something to someone there, and so on, or agree, this will not necessarily lead to your defeat there. no, on the contrary, you will look even stronger, and these noodles have been hung on our ears for decades. but for some reason, it seems to me, everything is still going on. actually believe them, or something, vladimir vladimirovich one phrase literally. here i am in support of the words that have been said here regarding indifference, who believes? who doesn't believe? who perceives how? i'm just using the example of ukraine to say 8 years, there was a war. yes, somewhere in the donbass , the bulk of the population lived an absolutely peaceful life. there, fireworks were fired; wives who came
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from donbass were crying in the form of people dying there. and here, fireworks are shooting, birthdays are being celebrated, and it seemed to everyone that this would not affect anyone. i remember poroshenko who said our children go to school. and their children got. yes, and now i want to ask you. and who is now sitting in the basements, now all the children are sitting in the basements, the ministers are sitting in the basements and the euro, the officials are sitting in the ukrainian basements. and this is the result of which this is the result of not understanding, indifference and expediency of making certain political decisions. i do not want to return to the minsk agreements. well, compared to what happened to ukraine after all. as well as after refusing to make these decisions, but i think it is in general. comparable in general, well, the consequences, yes, and this is the result of erroneous decisions made, for which no one was held accountable vladimir vladimirovich, look, it means that a new special headquarters for military assistance to ukraine is being created in germany
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. this means that this headquarters will include 300 will include 300 american officers in germany, it is being created by 300 american officers at the same time. so, in the mediterranean sea, the american submarine of the horseman of the apocalypse entered, we move on to spain , an american doomsday plane arrived, and macron updates france's security strategy and that's it, that's it, you know how alarming it all is. but just now , tigran igmonovich is talking to us about what, maybe this is our cunning plan, that they will enter there and so on, but judging by, yes, apparently. what are they, they are preparing all together, but to fight with us. why are these all these body movements. well, when we are talking about the difference in the political and military context, although to understand what it is, let's also try to evaluate the west from the point of
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view of the political and military context political context. well, it's already tired of procrastinating topics. there is a weakening of russia there in the turns under the belly of russia so that it bleeds let's look at the effectiveness of what they do with russia precisely on the effectiveness of western eyes joy, that's how they enrage ukrainians there, namely from the point of view of the west and then two wests appear yes, one west is an absolutely american sector and it includes a huge number of countries, about 40 countries of the alliance are now fighting together with ukraine it’s saying 40 countries are fighting, it’s okay, with whom russia now doesn’t lay a hand. so , there, on the other side, 40 people piled up and there is a non-american sector. well, let's take hungary for example. it's not the american sector that is pronounced. and this is the west, they also participate in sanctions when it is beneficial for them, when they do not participate, they need money from brussels, they participate in sanctions, they need gas from russia, gases do not participate, that is, not the american sector. this is what needs to be considered.
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west like that's the american sector no. and what have do we get it? look, the macron global problem comes to the arena and says, but we are the only nuclear power, we have the only power of the european union, of course, we need to change. now everything macron wants additional money from brussels for the maintenance of nuclear troops, the creation of a nuclear triad. that is, he has his own european plans, but once again with european eyes on what is happening, what can we do? rejoice and win the war, because it is cold there in winter, because there will be no gases, because there is no branding will. here i have the figures written down there e food eggs 2.8 comma 9% dairy products. this inflation in germany 28.9 doubled from heating the price of heating. and that it is possible for this to win the war, but they are mentally prepared. them in hitler's way. now they warned natsu and they are waiting for deprivation and they are ready. right now we are losing, but then enlightenment begins. the era of recovery of europe, which leads to the well-being
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of the nation of the european nation and the 300 americans who came. they not only control effectively ukraine ukrainian headquarters. that's funny. they imposed the doctrine germany announced the purchase of 100 billion american aircraft. at the same time, germany at that moment betrayed the joint project of france to schultz macron. now, in exactly strained relations, schultz forbade the macron to drive equipment through the boars, said the autobahns to break down. let's just talk about a huge thing on the railway, well then it's 3 weeks longer to go. we don't have enough trains. that is, there are many such internal words, but they are united by indeed, the anti-russia project and cleaned my hands, and then we will live, and then we will live, but here, the main thing is only to crush the russians, but here the goal then happens. what do they expect from the russians you will use nuclear war. so i want to answer sergey, who said that such an agreement is very sergey literally in a minute, when we return to the studio and continue the conversation with
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our guests. and i will tell you more about the results of the questions that we conducted on the ntv website, interesting results. this is exactly what we are talking about we say zelensky’s personal enemies no, who dream of throwing the truth in his face zelensky you are scum that screamed and jumped with your eyes, and took the most precious thing from them a little. i love you very much every day. now former comrades, what can i say to you, comrades, finally kolya on sunday at 6:00 pm on ntv this year russia celebrates another anniversary of the death of the
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great russian poet 185 years ago in st. petersburg alexander sergeevich pushkin was mortally wounded russian writer about the russian class, what would, if he knew about the writers who swear by the name of pushkin and then say, leave kiev alone, odessa and all that russian barbarians are ashamed to be russian. yes, he would have beaten zakhar with a cane while sculpting russian lessons today immediately after his pravda on ntv this program continues to talk with our guests about the situation around ukraine, listen to you, then there is ukraine declaring itself neutral. i am not ozelensky now, because for some reason many now reduce everything to one thing, that they have become in ukraine. they put ukraine no, these stakes are more than ukraine is much more, either we will break through, or we will not break through, either on the wounds, or not at all. if ukraine is neutral
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then this is a stop and the possibility of parenization negotiations will be discussed. but if ukraine is not neutral, then no one sees how to stop, to put an end to it, the point is not in emotionality, but in a certain perception of the situation, if you look at the economic, if you look at the future of the ruble, if you look at the future. look your people in the eyes indeed, the conversation is not about ukraine, the conversation is about the existence of russia, what will it be like in 20 years? what it will be like in 30 years and then, when you look now kherson, yes, the troops left, they left, as they left before that, they were allowed to leave those who want to leave, they didn’t leave these people, they gave them the opportunity to warn them to leave, because those who stayed, then they know. we know what the nazis do, when they come in they do a sweep so there's a fucking opportunity. to leave honestly, yes, but in 10 years this moment will be invisible. he will now be emotionally periodically perceived once again. the rate is not ukraine
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, the rate is much higher. let's look at the results, and the survey that we conducted on the ntv website the question was formulated as follows. here it is a topic in practice, about which and we are actually talking with you, we need results now for peace negotiations with ukraine. you see, yes 80% is not only after the full completion of its 18% negotiations. now it's impossible. ukraine is not ready for them. well, in general, yes, 98%, 98% believe that no, and that's why it seems strange to us constantly, pouring from the left, from the right, a statement that we are ready for these very negotiations, yuri says, now a second. yes, your opinion. yes, what kind of negotiations can be? and what could be, in principle, and the conditions at these negotiations that would suit both us and, for example, you
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know them and kiev there, here a very utopia sounded or , in general, a very good example of khasavyurt. why these are the negotiations then were in power. there were seven banks in power, the oligarchs were in power the result of the negotiations. all went in favor. there is no russia, not the people of russia, but in favor of a certain circle and the same boris berezovsky who was behind all this, you know that i remember i remember the statement of yevgeny prigozhin, in which he made, when yesterday and now we have what he made this statement about. he said that we have a lot of all these people here. yes, but wait, wait, just like that , verbatim. no, well, soon there, like we'll take you . yes, how that they will not be, in general, in any case, ramzan kadyrov says about this, the question really arises because i want a little clear clarity here. still, bring it in. here is the military part itself. yes, because, well, after
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all, this is the major of our native 20,000 of our military personnel, according to the data that was given. well , in any case, this is how telegram channels leaked and 50,000 ukrainian military personnel are on the defensive. we understand very well that 20.050.000 will not hold back. our troops are burning kherson . this is really a defeat. this is really what we should have. well maybe, experience as a terrible tragedy in this situation. we are creating a line, whether this is a line 30 km from the crossings, our military paratroopers held it. uh, tankers there and so on during this time. we withdrew almost all operational military equipment, all personnel and managed to withdraw our personnel. sa- those people who here is regard who kept the ukrainian units, except this is correct. it was said here. we are the only ones who took out the civilian population and did not use them as human shields. see how ukraine acted everywhere, starting with mariupol
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or now to severodonetsk and so on everywhere. i know, i just have acquaintances, uh, who live in kra gorsky, how they were driven there, they were forced to sit in the basements of houses, and these nazis hid behind them, that is, we each issued a housing certificate said to go to that the area that you consider necessary, therefore, i think this question is very positively done, which is negatively negative, of course not, there should be a conversation with people, that is, the people. i believe that our authorities should explain precisely the political power political leadership to explain that we really do not go to an agreement. with this nazi regime, but it's useless for eight years. here spiridon pavlovich well scorched the minsk agreements for eight years, i don’t care. in any case, be fooled by the formula. come on, i don’t care about steiner’s formula, no matter what we agreed with them. the most important thing, after all, the west directly says, russia, the united states, right here biden,
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just yesterday, russia should withdraw its troops, offers to withdraw troops there already. where from our borders tomorrow that you are there you will stand, yes, american hypersonic missiles will stand, which will threaten moscow with the fact that in 5 or 7 minutes there, and the kremlin will be demolished and that's it. the rest is the entire center of our capital, so in general go now to any agreement with the west. it's a crime to just shoot yourself in the weight in the truest sense of the word. this will ruin our country, what we must do now. here too here. uh, everything was said for the front. everything for victory, that is, you need to consolidate society, you need those who do not want to help. so you need to take action. business is spoken here. i have not heard of big business, small medium business. helps a lot. yes , i mean, i'm just exactly against the
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oligarchs, which we know, they really want to see a battalion named after this there. the same oligarch x worshiped me named oligarch, y who does not need anything well? actually armed perfectly well there i don't know equipped hmm with good salaries. well, and so on. yes, we know how can it be, they have one of the oligarchs personal opinion, if you want to fragmentation, go to the country, so i'm not talking about it. in fact, for this there is, in order to need to participate, in order to exist, so that the economic activities of the period of war should work for the states. no, none there. this is my battalion now. ok then. i agree. i just want them to be involved in this process, but i don't see it i totally agree. we all know
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the story of how one of the oligarchs buys an iphone and every yes to this mercenary who was exchanged. now one of them yes, he is returning to ukraine , he is going, and he knows that he will not be killed. do you understand? i will now run a youtube channel. i am still a military commissar , he is now a military commissar roman. sorry, i would like to finish more, but in this situation, i see why such an uh, in general, the situation has arisen. we were a little late with mobilization, they were a little late, that is, when ukraine announced the mobilization of bringing the army to one million people. we somehow treated this very cool. let's just say it's indifferent. here we are in this moment it was necessary to carry out its mobilization. i will explain to you. here i will try to explain too, yes, well, just as a person, right? and what, exactly, but hmm, all these statements affect me there, and i somehow react to them. we thought
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it wasn't scary or scary. and we thought that it was practically impossible and many things that have become a reality today and more recently each of us thought that it was impossible. well, tell me that this is not so, everyone thought that the people understand, and then once you see that it is already a reality, then once again this is a reality and this is a reality, but the most important thing is that vitya's mobilization of the military began at that time to talk about the need. now i'm just sure when the potential of our army. that's really a regular army will grow it somewhere in the month of december. uh, there are prospects for changes in the situation at the front, but the most important thing for us now is the task of liberating the donetsk people's republic well, these are the territories that are constantly shelled every day a dozen times, but from our side. here this is my point of view, what should we do now in this situation. first, we hold a deaf defense, and we move from this. she is happy to negotiate. we
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are not, negotiations. i generally considered i find it inappropriate. well, because uh, with traitors and people who at any moment will shoot you in the back, shake your hand, sign a contract, shake hands. you just turned around. and you immediately get a bullet in the back. it is useless to negotiate with this public. yes, it means to keep the defense active defense, that is, accompanied by counterattacks. and the most important thing is to focus all our efforts on the destruction of the energy and transport infrastructure. that is, eh, roughly speaking, ukraine should be in the 19th century. in terms of electricity supply. there is coal , there is gas, but there is no electricity to make it all function. relays do not work . generators do not work. and so on, the engines don't work. pumps to pump gas. all this is not functioning, the country is practically at the torch. this is the first moment the second moment western ukraine
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poland, we are destroying tunnels, destroying railway stations, uh, stations where, like, where they change wheelsets and so on, yes, but the most important thing, i say, is not touching the infrastructure itself, namely transformer substations. electrical is anything that has to do with energy. the first military facilities military enterprises do not work enterprises for the repair of ukrainian military equipment military units do not work. in the rear, electricity is not provided, there is no light, when and so on, it is necessary to put an end to it. yes, it's a huge task. the task is huge with a minimum of losses with a minimum of losses due to the use of high-precision weapons and drones, everything is for and more than that, i will say from february 24. we have been talking about this since february 24. and also here. personally, i would like to see a strike on the maidan of independence, there must be some kind of military sense there. well, this is a
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symbolic story, so that there would no longer be a publishing hut there, but nothing has happened yet, right? happening why don't i know? why? yes, and michael is drying you now about your question, and public opinion. return poll results. yes, please, against this background, a recent poll in ukraine is interesting, a similar question is only from the other side. yes and where only 8%, and the past they agree to the formula of peace in exchange for the return of territories only 8%. they feel that the contour clutch is more or less successful . there is no counter-offensive, if kherson were surrendered as a result of offensives, or you know these statements here. there, the same stoltenberg conquered kherson, on the contrary, they stood for a few more days and thought what was happening to us to go there or not to enter ah. i mean in kharkov and in a-a. yes, and
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the fact that e sergei strokin said last week that these are russian strikes on ukrainian infrastructure. it comes out of russia sideways. that is, it is only to consolidate, and public opinion, e.g., the majority of ukrainians, and therefore only eight, and percent are ready, but so that you better understand, and europe, the position of ukraine. i want to draw an analogy, if possible, but he is theoretical, but it's showin' that well imagine if hostile to russia side attacked russia but theoretically hypothetical and they called it under inflatable pretexts and they called this operation a special operation and a provincial measure because russia refused to mate e medical country. and if this country occupied 15% of the russian territory and created a battle. there is no mara, that the authorities and but there on this russian territory led a referendum and shout that it is a thief. if the people is
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true on self-determination, how would you think that russia would agree to negotiate with this enemy? i think not. i think that only one question would stand - this is a bit of an enemy from russian territory. that’s what ukraine is from what position of ukraine it comes from, you painted everything by mike, but if a few nuances that you again actually tried to forget about it about everything, you tried to forget that in fact this is the most hostile country . as you say, fed for decades for decades. this is how you say in your scenario here. the same russia was fed by the citizens of this very country in russia they earned money and fed, in fact, their people, and in trade the most favored nation treatment was the russian market or market.
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here this hostile country was open. absolutely for all products, the factories were inundated with orders. and this is all pensions, taxes and everything else gas for a penny, and then they took it and spat in the soul, so there are always nuances here. here's to the very scenario about which you wrote i have such a question. here are the elections that you have now ended in america, yes, and we remember, uh, they said that they even remembered some of them there and gave quotes from some representatives of the republicans, who said that if we win this election. not a cent more, there is not a penny, there ukraine and so on. what do you think, right now, in principle, they have won, there is no defeat, there is no defeat, but nevertheless, something will change more of them or not, the most important thing is brought out for russia, this is the most. the main thing is that here we are not talking about america, we are talking about the last ones for russia, this, of course, is the loss of trump to the trumpists, because as a result, this is the consensus support for ukraine remains, that is, they remain the most
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tropical, but the balance of power may have won , but it would have changed, but now. we see that, uh, that is , this is a weakening of the source of resistance, and support for ukraine is this is the first moment, the second moment, that this is the loss of the trombano, when they do something a, you can actually write off trump from the presidential elections, uh, 24 years old, i.e. 2 years. and, that is, this is a huge blow to trump's authority, he personally put forward these trumpist candidates, who lost miserably mean? i understand that you don't like it. here it is. uh, that trump is a friend of russia because yes, he is not a friend, russia well, yes, he is absolutely, but at the same time, but he considers an example. uh-huh that ukraine accepts quotes from him. ukraine is not a problem. america is the problem of europe and if not a friend in russia, this is a very advantageous position for trump. if that is
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the very fact that he is an a, he will most likely not become a candidate. and in the twenty-fourth year after 2 years it is very bad before russia and who will come? it 's most likely no. here is the landing, and he is 44 years old. and at this is a completely enemy and he is energetic and he is uh this is absolutely not a friend of russia that's what we need to think about. i don't think that the military conflict in ukraine should end now, baidom says. and this is all after these very elections, what does this say? that's it, thanks, all my friends there is no time. yes, what does it say? this suggests that the americans must be given their due, they again do not hide anything, and they say, you can endlessly talk about the fact that you are ready for some kind of negotiations. that is we you can at all levels to say that you are ready for negotiations, even taking into account the existing realities and everything that will not happen without preconditions.
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none of this. they say they will use the topic of negotiations only in the very same. the keys are to continue, so i say to continue the demonization of russia that it is bloodthirsty, it will not enter into any negotiations under any circumstances. but kiev, they are so good, and therefore zelensky, you see, showed nobility and changed his categorical position on these negotiations. this is about hmm in the conference room stories about trump michael you won't believe it but i'm convinced but i always say this always trump will come nothing will change and i don't think trump is brook russia i never thought trump was a friend in russia and we already are in fact , as they say, they were seen passing trump was already there and we actually saw what happened with trump. and i don’t even know if trump would have been president, but would it happen now or not, i can’t say categorically that all this would not have happened either. this is about
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america, therefore, the results of the american elections will not affect the situation in the region of ukraine as far as negotiations are concerned. we do not need any negotiations if we go to these negotiations. this will be unambiguously perceived by all of us as our simple failures. what kind of negotiations can there be? and if we cannot agree on the most important issue, and the terms of these negotiations, they say that they will never make any territorial concessions. well, we are talking about what is ours territories, these are subjects of the russian federation at least, and therefore we cannot make any territorial concessions here either. what then can be? in principle, negotiations, with regard to some agreements, that is, these secret agreements. but yes, we have already talked about this. we just got burned once, and therefore we admit, what can be, but i think that this
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still cannot be, because i cannot understand in the interests. what kind of people can happen this very agreement. and who are these people, but i absolutely agree with tigran than we do with all the guests that we should finally, and we should finally say to ourselves that the guys need to take seriously what is happening now, because if we continue to make. so in the middle of the force, it will simply lead to disaster. with further consequences and then what will actually happen to the whole country. we, too, today there, as they say, can guess, but even if we don’t guess these terrible scenarios, it will be impossible to calculate them, and therefore everything needs to be redone in first of all, our own consciousness. yes, what happened in the kherson region, who likes it? nobody likes it. everyone was in a disgusting mood. everyone was aware that everything was clear, but at the same time, this does not mean that something has already happened that cannot be, as they say, fix it. no? we
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have two options, we either give up, as i always say, or we fight. choose what is best, as they say, who likes me choose fight and i think that the results of the poll that we conducted say exactly the same, overwhelming the population of our country it is for fighting in order to achieve the goals that were announced at the very beginning why because if this does not happen, it will only affect our security, they will all be in chocolate, but in our security. there will be big problems, this cannot be allowed . we will meet in a week in this studio and remember that all participants in our program have their own truth, but we will always get to the bottom of the truth. pushkin created poems from the air and light pushkin's poems shine and breathe centuries later, the guns do not fit and the exquisitely accurate tyutchev and the democratic nekrasov and the bloc and
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yesenin and even mayakovsky and akhmatova svyataeva. and gumilyov, but the thing is that pushkin lived not only in his specific 1821-1826 or in the thirty- sixth year. he lived at once in the whole of russian history, accommodating it all. this year, russia is celebrating another anniversary of the death of the great russian poet 185 years ago in a public garden. now between the metro station the black river pionerskaya and earlier there was a detail nearby in st. petersburg alexander sergeevich pushkin was mortally wounded pushkin was born as you know, pushkin's
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parents had eight children in moscow, four died in infancy in 1811. sasha pushkin enters the lyceum in st. petersburg, passes exams, receives a characterization, is windy or frivolous artificially in french, and drawing in arithmetic is lazy and his nickname lags behind. he had a frenchman there. i have a field commander i know. he also has the call sign french, however. okay literary ability. pushkin at that time, he was 12 years old. quite modest he does not enter, even in the top ten lyceum students in writing by the end of the lyceum, if not in arithmetic, then in poetry, he caught up with everyone and overtook pushkin, he already outdid all writers in his face, said derzhavin to sergei timofeevich oksakov, after listening to how the young poet reads a poem of memoirs at the lyceum exam in this is how
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pushkin's glory began in tsarskoye selo, which will lead him where no to not a book fair, but to a long-term exile. we have no right to remain silent about this, therefore, we will simply mention youth. pushkin is constant irrepressible love affairs. he was very passionate. young beauty likes me with the shamelessness of furious desires, as well as incessant duels and the harshest, most caustic epigrams. even comrades sometimes did not spare. pushkin had a friend by the name of kuchelbecker, also a lyceum student, a poet later a special envoy under general yermolov in the caucasus, and then the decembrists were strong, and then still a young man 2 years older. pushkin of everything and now pushkin will compose somehow narrowed he overate. i am
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ayaks. locked the door by mistake and had me my friends and tyukhelbekerna and sickening. küchelbecker generally speak. svinin, proud of his noble german surname, will challenge pushkin to a duel, shoot, wanting to kill him, but if pushkin misses to shoot, he will refuse to shoot , he could die at 19 years old. he could die at 20, he could die 28 times. he had so many dueling stories, not counting the last duel. november 1819 . he will go to the fortune teller. she will predict his death at the hands of a white man and two exiles. he will remember her prediction all the main classical revolutionary poems. pushkin will write then young in 1818. this dream is right for chaadaev of russia. and our names will be written on the wreckage itself. that, by
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the way, is true pushkin will immediately enter the soviet economy, he quit writing in 1819 at the age of 20 an evil epigram on the chief head of the imperial office, the almighty arak. all of russia to oppress or torment the governors in 1820. it is customary for us to rush from one extreme to another. at first, in soviet times, the revolutionary pushkin was very dear to everyone, because he fought against the autocracy. now we have become everything such conservatives that extinguish the light, it is now supposed to love the authorities to tears in the eyes, and the young pushkin is treated condescendingly by the durils young man. well, in short, the indulgence of this penny price pushkin had an absolute right to these poems in a country where millions of people were enslaved, who could be traded. maybe if your ancestors were nobles, you may have questions for pushkin, but my ancestors were serfs. i have no questions for pushkin about these verses. no, he's not a throne, staggered. he
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spoke wrote the obvious man. not a brute that here it is not so that all these pushkin's writings diverge then. in the lists, a gendarme will be sent to him, who, for 50 rubles. big money is trying to bribe the pushkin service and take away the drafts. but he is not for sale and reports everything to the master. pushkin burns his freedom-loving elements. he himself comes to the governor-general of st. petersburg, miloradovich, which they deigned to be interested in at the request of miloradovich. pushkin honest pushkin fills the entire notebook with his poems. but he could lie that he forgot and only decent ones about nature, for example, write in a notebook. they are free, charmed by courage and manners. pushkina miloradovich forgives him, however, he carries this notebook to emperor alexander the first and gives it back with words. here is everything that is scattered in the public. but you, sir, better not read this. so pushkin
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receives the first exile to the south of russia, the punishment at that time is more than mild, because he retains all the rights and even gives him money for the road. and a lot of money so the link first kiev pushkin immediately bathes in the dnieper falls ill with a fever and this is how he celebrates his first birthday. kiev fever, having recovered from kiev, he goes to the caucasus pyatigorsk crimea feodosia gurzuf a lovely region and nature that satisfies the imagination writes about the crimea from gurzuf goes to odessa from there, chisinau is all russia imagine how surprised pushkin would be if he saw us today, but whose kiev would you ask? oh, odessa and chisinau what's the matter with you in general, in what century do you live there? you again lost to the turkish sultan to the swedes, or to whom to yourself
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alexander sergeevich we lost to ourselves. and what would happen if he found out about the writers who swear by the name of pushkin and then say, leave odessa alone in kiev and all that. russian barbarians are ashamed to be russian. yes, he would have beaten them with a cane. i will now briefly explain. what is the difference between them between pushkin and his alleged heirs. yes. pushkin also did not like tyrants and despotism, but at the same time in any war waged by his state. pushkin was unconditionally on the side of the state, not only in the patriotic war of 1812 . he was for the state. in general, for any war, that is, the difference is simple. pushkin is like that, he says down with tyrants, you give liberties to such tsarist ones that the war is ahead for the fatherland, down with the current tyrants, you give liberties to such tsarist ones to fall, that the war is a disgrace, down with russia should be divided into 45 parts. let it appear
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