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in terms of salary, we are principally those artists who work hard. these salaries have been increased. we cut a lot of hmm and people who have nothing to do with the creative process at all, all sorts of pr people. well, like this, here, i do it myself, no one is needed. yes, for this we are very strongly strengthened in terms of, as it were, out of budget, i mean, we went on several tours. we have some very serious partners. i don't want to announce yet. it's because money loves silence, so they are very strong. they help us wear it not to advertise. yes, we are, in short, in perfect order, yes, and we have good balances in the budget sky. now i’m reading, that is, when i came here it was minus 158 million. and now it’s only on the outside of the budget, just 52 million are being tested. i don't know it will work. it won't work.
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make at least 50 to 100 million rubles. let's try vnedzhetov. i don't know what's ahead. thank you very much for the conversation. thank you very much, thank you. i'm glad it was still illuminated very much. hello in russia, decades of science and technology ntv broadcasting company educational a project of the state corporation rosatom and people endowed with knowledge of their technologies present a program on how science is our life for the next 10 years. i am vladimir antokhin. i am ekaterina in 10 years people will destroy the ocean experts who believe that
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in 10 years people will really destroy the ocean are yulia varykina, economist, international affairs specialist and anna kurbatova ecologist. hello well, by tradition, we will call them optimists. evening, good evening. at the end of the program our guests and beautiful girls. no, skeptics are no less beautiful young men. let's put it this way, let's make a forecast, what is the probability that in 10 years people will really destroy the ocean about the history of the ocean, our expert professor kapustin will tell about one and a half billion cubic kilometers of water on earth and almost all of it is in the world's oceans. where did water come from on our planet? well, most likely water appeared 4 billion years ago, when it broke in the form of gases through cracks in the crust and the victims of the volcano.
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a billion years have passed and an ocean has formed on earth. this process does not stop today the annual output of water from the depths of the planet is about a quarter of a cubic kilometer, 2 billion years ago, the simplest algae appeared later, sponges, mollusks, cancer, scorpions, 500 million years ago , the ocean was filled with nefera forms. now in school leftovers. their children write on the blackboard. well, finally. this is about a million, three or four years ago, new creatures appeared from the order of primates of the hominid family. they immediately settled on the shores of mary and the oceans began to collect shellfish and fish. well , you know the rest of the story. and further we'll find out the story now, but i'll come to you by the number of questions. well, to the sea. you probably
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rested, but that's right here on the ocean also, yes, i was in kamchatka on the ukrainian islands, just from the ocean, too. but you don't. i have n’t been to the ocean, but i hope that it still happens, if we didn’t think about it anna igorevna but really, when and how did the oceans form on earth, in order to talk about it, science can add our expert to argue with him, i would add . well, i would like to say, immediately that there are already about 1 billion years ago, the earth was covered with a dense shell. in which there were already continental ledges and oceanic depressions. and if we talk about continents and oceans, then, of course, it must be said that 250 million years ago on our planet earth there was a huge one, you might say, a supercontinent, a pangia supercontinent, and it was washed from all sides by, uh, the ocean of tantalum and now,
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slowly inside the earth, and-a mantle currents they rose from the bowels, and under the pangeas they stretched this continent and in the process for about 200 million years ago pangea splits into e, lavradia and gun 2no, and between laurasia and gondwana, an ocean is formed. tethys it was called this ocean, which is now the deep waters of the mediterranean sea of the black sea. these are the waters of the caspian sea and the shallow persian or arabian gulf. and well, that's right, i agree, and with professor kapustin, that the process is still going on, formation is underway in the bowels of the earth. so when we formed two continents, the process did not stop, and thanks to these, here or because of these mantle currents, and the continents
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were again divided into smaller parts and as a result, our already e, continents and the space between the continents were formed, and filled with mantle matter. here is the mantle material. it just formed the bottom of the ocean, which then, but will be remembered by water and we will form the indian ocean. atlantic ocean and pacific ocean. beauty sergei anatolyevich and why do fresh rivers flow into the nokian ocean salty? well, for this we need to look at the picture, if possible, yes, of course. well here in this picture we briefly see the global hydrological cycle. moreover, what is interesting is that it evaporates from the salty ocean, fresh water, precipitation also gets fresh water. the atmosphere transfers moisture to
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fresh land. naturally. evaporation of precipitation over uh land too. in general, non-salty river flow we also have freshwater, and professor kapustin said that we have mantle matter up to a cubic kilometer a year, and here tens of thousands of 30,000 cubic kilometers a year of fresh water is spinning. here in this cycle the salt in the ocean remains one and the same, but with a few changes. maybe , but nevertheless, all the changes that they occur are only due to the fresh runoff of evaporation. if we had the glaciers of greenland and other islands not ta or as quickly as in recent decades, our ocean level would not have changed from this in total, but due to the fact that after all, we have glaciers since global warming quite quickly, about 2 mm per year, we have this imbalance of fresh water, therefore, in general, the oceans. they even dream a little, and if we
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take the era 20,000 years ago, when it was freezing, because it is fresh, and fresh liquid runoff was not formed. everything accumulated on e, continents and the ocean level was 120 m lower, so the inhabitants of chukotka freely ran to america. they spread to alaska there and there was salinity in the ocean. naturally higher. than now by a few ppm by a few grams per kilogram. that's why all these changes are taking place, but all this within the framework of fresh runoff, salt, generally speaking, remains in place in the ocean. well, yulia viktorovna, you save. i have such a household application question. but the oceans in general are whose. here they belong to someone or like a piece of the ocean? i would like to somehow divide the oceans there. this is a very good question. and uh, i must say that
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international law is in the sphere of the use of mary and the oceans. it is probably the most ancient area of international law, because there are sources that back in the fifth century bc, the rhodes maritime law was in force, involving the fight against pirates and the actual interaction of participants, and economic processes, a in the southern seas, a and further it all developed and now. uh, of course , uh, the marine environment and the oceans are governed by rather international conventions. according to the law of the sea , a system of law was formed in the 20th century, the main key and there are a lot of unresolved issues, but because the priming of the law of the sea over other areas. i'll explain it now it sets uh a number of precedents that require u legal permission to interpret, but the simplest thing is that we can divide the waters into those that are under the jurisdiction of certain
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countries and those that are free and open. and here, uh, there's sort of a dispute about who owns the borders, but it's such a theoretical and, uh, international fight. and then there are straits and navigable international channels, in general, the basic principle of international law in the field of shipping. and that's freedom of navigation. and therefore, for all international straits and channels, they are open so that all countries can use them here, there are exceptions. can't block any channel, but as a matter of fact. it all depends on what kind of political situation, there are a number of situations where he can, uh, prohibit the use of, uh, canals
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. freedom but, for example, flights of civil military aviation over the open sea. they have not yet been finally settled. that is, in fact, uh, there is water with the ocean, it seems to be regulated. a yes, and there are many things that happen, for example, there are often conflict situations between aircraft, i.e., uh, civil aircraft want to go straight, and hmm, and the military wants to conduct exercises and says, you can't use, uh, these channels and here it is clearly regulated. although how and who will interact in this case is far from being so simple, but the world ocean is eventually divided and between whom. or it is still no man's, but there are, but zones that fall under the jurisdiction of a number of countries. and so he belongs, what is the oceans? well
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space. yes, this is such a planetary property. yes, yes, yes the state, which goes out to the ocean to the sea has its limits. yes, basically 12 miles of sea just 12 minutes. yes, there are applicants up to 200 plus another uh 200 miles, which uh are located on the shelf. that is, 12 miles is the border. and then it's an economic zone where other states can't do business, well, there's fishing or, uh, mining , and then, basically, it's nobody's business. in 1970, i actually decided that all the minerals, located on seabed, and in a free, ah, let's say, space from the state zone, they are, uh, a global
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how science will change our lives for the next 10 years, professor kapustin, as he said, is the hope of all mankind for our future and this is our future. we are now simply destroying and the main enemy of the ocean is man. you know, two very revealing trends in fish consumption over the past half century has quadrupled. at the same time, it decreased by almost 10%. but 10% is somewhere in between. and so, for example, there is a colossal reduction in the catch of such fish as there are no swordfish. and, for example, in the northern part of the atlantic, stocks of cod
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hake sea bass decreased by 95%. well, that is, almost everything has disappeared, but not only do we extract food from the ocean. we also dump our waste there, probably the most important pollutants of the ocean - this is oil, its derivatives, however, groups of bacteria have been found that feed on these hydrocarbons with pleasure, including including and at a temperature of 4 ° c well, like ocean water, fertilizers that have fallen into the sea, especially phosphate nitrates, are excellent fertilizers for algae. as for herbicides and pesticides, they quickly hydrolyze in water and become food for microorganisms. of course, compounds of lead, bismuth, copper and other heavy metals that have fallen into the ocean sound scary, but, to be honest, in fact, the
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concentrations of these substances in the ocean are, well, completely negligible. not everything is so scary, well, professor delicious about the fish told. i’m right here, nothing, that’s what. yes, the professor really did talk about fish. and what do we actually get from the ocean today? well, not only fish, well , the ocean, since i am still a sailor, yes, but it is the main engine of trade, because 90% of all transported goods go by sea, yes, and having stopped, but shipping. world of health but at the same time, uh, those ships that go on the sea. now the requirements are becoming more and more stringent. uh, to their purity , the release into the atmosphere, and the release overboard of everything that
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you can’t throw it away to complicate the ships carry anything. yes, everything that people produce e is transported by transport, starting from banana firewood. oil and gas carriers . one such case, probably known to all those present, was when one container ship lost a container with children's toys, a yellow duckling e, and oddly enough, this turned out to be a significant impact on the study of the ocean, because these ducklings swam all over the world's oceans. yes, they were met in different places and thus determined the direction of the current. they were even able cross the arctic ocean and get through the bering strait from one end to the other canada that
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is, even if the container was not lost, it was necessary, in principle, to lose it in order to see how the water moves in the ocean. generally. yes, what is happening now. uh, with the garbage that is found there or otherwise, uh, in this or that place, yes, they determine the origin of the garbage, and this is a. it also shows. what currents carry everything, anything money everything everything that can be. yes, this is one of those global ones. in fact, the most the main thing that the ocean gives us is the ability to transport transportation. yes, but we do not forget that, as we already see, uh, seafood. yes , very tasty, by the way, the fishing fleet, which produces a huge amount, although less and less somewhere more fish becomes fish. uh, all my oysters, everything-everything-everything, whatever. uh, in
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some countries it even remains without a ban on the destruction of large ones. animal sea whales dolphins too, unfortunately, eat oil gas. and a. that's our country now the arctic ocean, since this is the most so far e little. explored territory, but with large reserves of hydrocarbons. yes, we are trying to prove that our territory is moving further than 200 miles ee along the shelf, yes, according to the laws of international maritime law. yes, there is such an opportunity , but it is necessary to prove that this shelf begins in russia then. we can mine there. so even our icebreaker participated in one of the expeditions, when we drove the ship, and they studied this possibility. yeah, yeah, uh from the ocean, mined
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energy to infuse stations yes. everyone knows that in the sea there are ebbs and flows, when the water goes back and forth. yes, they also took advantage of this, but not yet on a large scale, but it can also be done in the future. maybe this, but the direction will get more direction, right? these are the volumes, sergei anatolyevich, i read that now the cosmos has been studied better than the ocean. if so, why? well, this is such a trick. it is known that 12 people have visited the moon, and in the mariana trench in the pacific ocean at a depth of 11 km above, only at eight. here is one woman. as long as luna wins. uh, and one woman has been in space, true, not on the moon and at the bottom of the mariana trench. here the fact is that for every 10 m of depth, you and i add
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one atmosphere of pressure in the ocean. so we dived to 10 m. they give two atmospheres to our ears at 20 m to three atmospheres. and if it were 11 km, then we have 1,100 atmospheres and, of course, it is very difficult to create. uh, it's very difficult to create, uh, some kind of sub. on an apparatus that could withstand such pressure, well, here the first succeeded. this is jacques pekaru, late fifties of the last century. so, here is the first who visited in the 1950s. this is dan walsch jacques picard and uh, after them was uh, james cameron who filmed the titanic, and then they built the same bathyscaphe for him. uh, the japanese were here. here are the americans, but it's still a very small number of people. uh, by the way, speaking in russia, it was created and 2 years ago, an uninhabited underwater vehicle, whirling, was put into operation, which also plunged to a depth of 11 km. in the same place. for
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this, it was not necessary to send people there in the same way as you remember, russian spacecraft were sent to the moon, without people, they also turned the ground to another extreme, but not everywhere there are 11,000. and even at the north pole, only 4 km, there were three or four people, right? here, well, and in addition, we have a very poorly described bottom. this requires very detailed locators. uh, there's a 3d side view. no, no 3d model of the ocean floor. there are still, but uh, since it would be necessary, yes, 5-7% of the bottom is described, we know only 10% of the species, generally speaking, they are described, but in total they say that there are approximately 2 million species of animals in the ocean, yes, yes, we know 220-240 thousand, for example, this is very difficult, in general oceanology is a very expensive science in the ocean. it's hard to get anything from there. yes , we are still waiting. in general, while everything is
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difficult. but you know, it's uh. i was recently on the shantar islands, and my children and i hmm s landed on some island, on which, probably, there has never been anyone at all, but, in principle, there are few people there, and we walked around the island with children and children, they say, let's collect plastic bottles. the whole desert island on some distant shantar islands, it is all littered with bottles of rubber boots. something like this you have collected, now i'm like this and so, there was nothing. in fact, i say, even rubber sagas there were some toys, anything. and everything, by the way, was. i realized that on the shandart islands, by the way, this is about ducks, and everything was with japanese labels. i realized that just from japan, the straits are throwing us into the sea of \u200b\u200bokhotsk to the shantar islands, but the captain who us landed he told me, in general, the sea, the ocean does not hold anything in itself. everything is thrown away. and yulya
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viktorovna from herself well, really, where does the garbage in the ocean come from, if so, and why is it dangerous, how does it fight with it today and in general is it necessary to do this? or is it pure? well, the aesthetic problem is that bottles are lying around and lying around, right? uh, this is also a purely aesthetic problem. and it should be noted that the illusions that a have been harboring since the fifties of the last century. and we can note. uh that the garbage is silting up, so we will make a deep-sea sewer outlet, and it will splash and silt. and that in general everything that we throw into the ocean. it is not that it is thrown ashore, but at least it will land on the bottom and then it will seize up and will be fine, and absorbed by the silt to exist, as drowned. uh, spanish ships with gold and many other people feel yes, and
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a few other objects that are now at the bottom of the oceans. unfortunately. now there is such a critical mass of garbage that is present, we did not promise to show even photographs, but under this we see that and moreover yes, unfortunately. it doesn't look very nice to our eyes, because now, uh, these garbage islands are reaching. uh, but practically the dimensions in the territory of the russian federation that it seems scary, and once it was a comparison 5 years ago, that this is the size of france, but now the size of france is a significant aesthetic problem, but it floats. there's another continent floating around. it is possible here that we can see with you that if it were there, some kind of surface plug, such as an island, but, to unfortunately, the garbage permeates the ocean actually to the bottom. and this is such a broth, in which there are
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fishing nets and bottles of a few other items. and so is our indigenous peoples living in the arctic aleuts. in particular. they are sounding the alarm that microplastics are shared by arctic communities. not used already come from the atlantic and unfortunately, the ecology is deteriorating sharply because of this, and here we are losing the traditional e, habitats of the indigenous peoples of the aleuts and from the abbasks and those who are themselves. uh, those who live and eat raw fish, and this is really a threat to the life and health of many people, i and the garbage that is not even formed within. e their e lives, but it is thrown out there in the same atlantic ocean, it enters. eh, calls to them. yes, microplastics. he is very dangerous.
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here is. uh, studies, and our colleagues from tunisia did. they explored the salt, and the strange mediterranean. here in north africa, salt is very often extracted by the evaporation method. water evaporates and thus produces salt, and the salt is of very high quality. it comes in chic restaurants, such as maxim and so on, and in european countries they conducted research and saw that this salt already contains microplastics. yes, and here is the main result of the study, that if a person eats 10 mg, approximately salt per day, uh, for the entire year, he will consume up to 2,000 units of microplastic only through all this, in my opinion, studies that this microplastic delivers some kind of harm to health, in my opinion, still no, no, there is still a study that has not been carried out, by the way, italian scientists did not find microplastics already in the
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placenta proven and the results published in a highly rated journal, and polypropylene and so polypropylene with e, proven to act like hormones. that is, it acts inside the body on the endocrine system. and he makes his own changes, so this is a very dangerous story. i'd like to add, well first, about the stains. these are the garbage ones. yes, of course from space - it is completely invisible and all the photos that are shown. these are mainly the countries of the southeast asian bays, because it is in these countries that 80% of plastic is the most - this is china, the philippines , indonesia, to a lesser extent there, thailand and further down the list. it's not western europe, it's not america of course, yes, but because these countries are already moving away from plastic packaging, again environmentally friendly. here, if possible, show one picture. yes, this is what we all remember in 2012, when it was famous. uh, the
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crimean yes flood fell in gelendzhik. there is a norm of precipitation, which happens once every 200 years. yes, for example 300 mm, so, and here we see it after all, no one threw it into the sea, this is everything in the river basin within a radius of 10 km. people, just near the house threw this plastic any rain, all this is demolished. yeah , that's why in southeast asia and there it's very common , like, wait, it's just flat saliva. no one even throws anything into the ocean. it's just some shit under your feet, roughly speaking. yes, we’ll break through for a long time katya will eat, and i’ll clean up yes, this is the division of labor advertising on ntv the legendary superstar show return theme today's release is a dedication to departed artists. oh, i think we're going to have a very difficult day today. i would like you to open up next to me in
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next 10 years in 10 years people will destroy the ocean professor kapustin by all accounts , the main enemy of the ocean. today it is polymer materials, plastic, but this is completely, not at all the case, plastic floating in water is not soluble and not poisonous. they cannot be poisoned by plastic garbage. it's generally safe . you can safely swim even in a large garbage patch that stretches from california . what's more, plastic is the beginning of a new life. sometimes even specially flooded ships appear on them. new sponge life, coral fish, and tourists pay good money. by the way, to dive. well, i know i dived myself, and such countries as small. and korea japan and china and many others are building islands using industrial and domestic waste singapore, for example, grows due to garbage. the maldives hopes
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not to drown with the help of garbage islands. by the way, i happened to visit a japanese chemical plant, the shops of which are located on the islands of garbage, and the shops are connected to each other by underwater glass tunnels, and you know, i walked around me , the fish swam this, well, unimaginable, great, by the way, and the japanese disneyland it also on the island of garbage located in general to recycle unnecessary plastics. well, it's just another matter that new plastic is much cheaper than recycling the old one. therefore, plastic recycling is very, very little less than 10%. much easier to throw everything into the ocean. sergey anatolyevich and today it has already been said that uh hmm we know little about the ocean, and that its study is quite expensive, but in the future
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is it necessary to develop technologies for studying the ocean, and most importantly, why spend so much money on it? well, first of all, we must know what is happening to us , what will happen in the coming decade. there is a natural danger and directly related to the ocean. uh, the role of the oceans in climate warming is very, very large, because 90% of anthropogenic heat is absorbed by the ocean, that is, the ocean is warming up. it may be slow, because it has a very large heat capacity, but constantly 1/3 of the carbon emitted into the atmosphere of anthropogenic is absorbed by the ocean and because of this we are shifting, the so-called carbonate equilibrium and the ocean and a weak alkaline environment, becomes neutral, and then may be weak acidic from this we have the degradation of corals. uh, well, if we put hydrochloric acid on the chalk. yes, with us it will disappear in exactly the same way, but only on a smaller, smaller scale. will happen to corals
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with calcareous shells, crabs, shells, oysters, anything, anything that's just calcium carbonate. here is the ocean. e is unpredictable, because the scale of the movement is hundreds of years, it is very difficult to unbalance it. but if we have brought him out, then such a drive is very difficult. it shifts thanks to these thanks to the global global warming. for the sake of something depends on us, maybe everything happens by itself. it does not happen by itself, if we consider the scale of decades and the first centuries, then man has already managed to greatly change the ocean and the entire climate system due to his activities in the economy. and here, if we look at the scale of thousands of years and tens of thousands of years, and freezing, of course, these are already natural processes, but here, to deal with the ocean. what does he threaten us with? what are the possible
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resources for us to master. that's for it for everything, naturally, studies of the study of past centuries are needed. this is a study of the ships pinpoint. yes , we somehow measured the depth of the temperature of the current. now it is still a kind of triad - a remote measurement from satellites from aircraft. this is mathematical modeling. and this, of course, uh, all kinds of unmanned vehicles, uh, which can be anchored can be autonomous navigation. there are quite a lot of this type of programs, when about 4,000 buoys were ejected, which themselves, e, spread throughout the oceans of the system currents every 10 days. they emerge, transmit information to the satellite, again plunge to a depth of kilometers, swim further. that's not enough batteries for 4x5 years. eh, here is such a broth. well, they
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just sink. fishermen give birth no more , uh, a picture if i may. uh, show me if we're talking about uh, animals. yes, for example, we use animals to explore accessible areas of the ocean, this is, uh, the arctic ocean. and the southern ocean. we stick to sea lions to elephant seals by sperm whales. eh, this kind sensors and they dive to a depth of a kilometer and, again, a passable sea, i remember the sea of okhotsk. it's like there's a huge number of killer whales. naturally. we were told how our oceanologists attach to killer whales. uh, and im sensors on the central sensor. yes. well, in order to follow the scythe. well, that's right, killer whales have learned to remove sensors, they have learned how to get lost and remove each other from each other. yes, they are very smart animals. yes, sometimes even people to me anna igorevna but we have already
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talked about the problem of plastic ocean. but there is yet. the problem, as i know, is when, for example, oil spills occur. he told us today. and when, for example, in general, just hmm a film is formed and does not enter, respectively, no oxygen enters , no sunlight, but i know that even bacteria have recently been developed that these oil spots are able to eat, so that this one remove all oil film. and what technologies need to be developed to save the ocean? technology asked me if there are technologies? how to prevent, yes, yes, here. it's more difficult, because basically what we are now struggling with is how can we deal with the damage that has already been done, that is, how to eliminate. yes , we even have the term liquidation of accumulated harm. and really hmm unfortunately, very
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often these here are uh, ecologically they are such a catastrophe, the character is unforeseen, that is, this is a catastrophe, as there was an explosion at the uh hmm at stan on the platform where oil was produced in the gulf of mexico etc. there very often play and the human factor and natural factors and so on. that is, it is very difficult to guess where to lay this salt shaker in the event of an oil spill. now, if we talk about this, here, and about this , if i can add, that is, uh, professor kapustin said about plastic, said about oil spills, but no one says that even now there is a very big problem. this is a drug ingestion. now , not only drugs, but also metabolites are transported by accurate waters into the waters of the world ocean. yes. e after, that is these are hormones. these are cardiac various anti -cardiac, and drugs are an antibiotic against a tumor, tumor antibiotics. next and here there
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is a lot of research right now. they researched the fish population. so there is a problem that, for example, due to the ingress of hormones , the sexual, er, structure of the population changes. and this also leads to death, and the population, that is, to the loss of biodiversity, and uh, the problem is that in many countries of the world, including our russia, uh, the content of drugs is not standardized wastewater, that is, well, we just don’t define them, yes, there is such a problem. and yes, i would add that now and maybe it would help our oceanologists have a lot of means of observation and constant monitoring, which could just prevent the occurrence of emergency situations. eh, and detect them already at the zero phase of occurrence. this is very important as a preventive measure and such systems. i know that
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gliders. exists and works in many e, regions of the world, we still do not have enough knowledge these technologies. we have them in such a rudimentary phase actually, but this is in contrast to the haphazard e-buoys that are there and the animals that are watching. yes, this is a very important element. and it seems to me that these technologies should now be developed as quickly as possible. eh, otherwise we will not be able not to predict or, in fact, eliminate catastrophes. decide. now, if you have already said today that the transportation of the ocean. he us stern from perhaps will crush us there energy yes tide stations. and what else can we get from the ocean, what else will we learn to extract from it in the next 10 years, well, we will learn, e. so i'm not exactly a scientist, but as far as i know, uh, many countries are doing research and mining precious metals. and even the way i became there
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for such. i know that uranium is planned to be mined directly from sea water, because yes, because, well , everyone knows that sea water yes 50 periodic table , what do you want to go there? question of skills questions, yes, that's it. that's why it will move here, because resources on earth are depleted. i don't know about 10 years, but in some perspective, i think we will start not only extracting salt. or vice versa, not only fresh water, uh from concrete water, but also, uh, those minerals that are in it . yes, i already said anatolyevich that typhoons, that is, the ocean is also the kitchen of the weather, yes, uh, and knowledge. the way uh is going on there. this is the study of the ocean. we need in order to know the weather that uh will be us. we all get up in the morning
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and look yes what is the weather for tomorrow and for the last. here i go to the sea for 30 years, when you me were taught to look at the sky, look at the instruments that are on the ship's bridge. yes , i could tell what the weather will be in the evening, well, with some probability tomorrow. yes, now there are already mathematical models that tell me exactly when the weather will be tomorrow, i don’t need to go anywhere, i looked, uh, the computer, yes, and i determined, well, anyway, more than 3 days is not one. uh, a person who closely deals with the weather will say. any person who closely deals with the weather said that it's 3 days away. we can't accurately predict the weather can. yes, all due to the fact that there is little knowledge of the ocean in this regard. and we will study the weather forecast for the next month to our guests
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an optimist from a skeptic. we are already actively using the ocean's resources. or maybe we 'll soon be living in the ocean. well, on the surface, it can be at the bottom, as jules verne alexander belyaev dreamed of. well, we live on the surface. yes, the islands of the court. yes, in some european countries, the courts are used as apartments. water is much heavier. yes, i am those colossal, that colossal pressure that a person experiences while plunging and plunging. well, it will be quite difficult. maybe at a shallow depth. well, as long as there is still enough land, in any case, in our country, yes, the russians will not soon go under water, as if the last one. well, as a biologist, i will say. we are certainly
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very far away and anatomically physiologically open. we cannot live underwater. well, even if we hypothetically imagine that we have adapted to these temperature conditions oceans, and so on. if the hypothesis has adapted, then, unfortunately, we will forever lose the ability to live outside the water like this. maybe history will happen to us. oh yes. in general, i would not want to, let the fantasy remain a fantasy, advertising, probably, tv fantazer what is behind this sign behind this sign is the real shirin school near tula and a really interesting lesson at the point of growth, where real five-year plans are passionate about their first discoveries more than 9,000 points growth in small towns all over russia so that these guys have a really bright
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the future of the national education project is what matters here and now. let me know when you get tired and i 'll find it. 01 ladogi, take the car. tomorrow at 20:00 ntv airs a program about how science will change our lives for the next 10 years, in your opinion. what is the probability that humans will destroy the ocean in 10 years? there will be more
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garbage. yes, now, well, in 10 years there will be a ratio of fish and garbage, about three to one in 30 years, the ratio will be one to one, that is, there is as much garbage as fish in the ocean, but as already said garbage, he is so passive enough. yes, the ocean is so big, and besides, i still believe in human intelligence and the ability to agree that this is the type of plastic that lives in the ocean for 400-500 years, decomposing into microparticles the size of there in millimeters. yes, all the same, humanity will be able to cope with this problem, although the volume will continue to grow for several decades, the probability of destroying the ocean is zero. thank you very much disaster is close and 60% chance that we will destroy the ocean. well because if we reason that one to one
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garbage with fish. this is not the death of the ocean, but the balance, but purely climatically already shifted and we are actually on the verge of disaster because of this 60%, 60%. thank you very much. well, i also think that it is zero, because 10 years is a short period, but it even looks far ahead. uh. i think when he is sad, it’s hard because we threw him there. he will tell you guys, from this day on it will be a little less and he will recover. in general, zero, thank you very much, we will destroy the ocean as a donor of quality resources, i will say this, that is, in about 10 years. yes, as our program says, i, in principle, agree with yulia viktorovna, but i have even more yes 65-70% that we will destroy the ocean as
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a donor of high-quality biological mineral auxiliary recreational resources and so on, but ruining him as a donor. we will destroy ourselves, that's why this story will be winners generally aha 65%, thank you very much. it 's good. still, 10 years later. my ocean is not destroyed. ah, in 10 actually, of course, heated, one to three ratio here. yes, yes, yes, and as they said, my beautiful skeptics, but the ocean, of course, firstly, it is big, and secondly, it knows how to protect itself, but they know that this should be used. and you know, i remembered the proverb that it’s not clean where they clean it. and where they can, of course, they probably shouldn't take advantage of the fact that the ocean is so big and beautiful, and it
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can handle itself. i think it's still necessary one day, uh, people will understand that it is necessary not only to extract the resources of the ona languages , but also to stop littering there. but probably this will happen, when the ocean becomes uncommon, as it is now common that we can litter. as soon as it means, not like che, aha, i don’t know, maybe one day when people say who is responsible for the ocean, then he will clean it up. well, let's see if they say it or not. in the next 10 years, we will know about this. i hope we will find out, it was the science program and we are a program about how it will change, including our life with you for the next 10 years, it's good that we have an ocean. it's good that she is here of nature and the most most importantly, how good that we have science that helps us save the oceans of nature, including a week so far.
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