incurably addicted, we have a historic opportunity to defend our independence once and for all, just as ukraine brazenly steals enemy gas. there is a risk that gazprom has terminated the agreement on who will buy russian oil after the introduction of the price ceiling, we have agreed with lukoil to transfer business to bulgaria and whether our energy infrastructure can survive without western gas turbine spare parts now, because now launching a rocket is in our program . hello , this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear? i'm andrey norkin. my colleague is ivan trushkin. we are working live today, once again

we wanted to talk about various dependencies that greatly complicate the already complex geopolitical processes. let's start with the energy theme of the energy sector , so fresh for you now. uh, i’ll give an example, which, to be honest, here it is, just like that , it plunges me into some kind of despondency, so it became a couple of days ago. it is known that the ukrainian side has set new prices for our company transneft, a for oil transit. we are leading special military operation. and so, only naftogaz, they took and wrote to us here you bombed something, so we raise the duty on oil transit transneft has not answered anything yet. they confirmed that they have an appeal from ukrainian partners thinking about it. here. of course, when i try to lay down, it's all in my balding gray head. i have it no i ca

n't do it. here's how you can at the same time, and to conduct a special military operation. including striking energy objects from the other side, trying to keep a certain part of these energy facilities pipelines, for example, so that god forbid, do not interrupt the transit with gas smoothly. the same story is happening. i understand, of course, that our western partners. they depend on our gas. and we depend on them too. maybe there are more questions about spare parts technology and so on and so forth. but i can't put this together. yes, how to untie this knot. of course, i would take it and cut it, but thank god i don’t make the decision, but nevertheless. we would like here to talk about it. let's now move from oil to gas, because if again we talk about some fresh examples of the latest news, then here it is. uh, gazprom noticed that

a little bit of gas is disappearing somewhere, which goes through ukrainian territory to moldova here. there is already an explanation, now we will give them to you. uh, the term subsidence. that is this gas. he doesn't seem to disappear. well, it stays somewhere. well, there are several. in general, tens of millions have already disappeared somewhere. again, i have no idea either. well i hope someone will explain this to me today. on tuesday, gazprom announced that it had recorded a settling in ukraine, that is, in fact, the theft of russian gas that was in transit to moldova; in total, more than 50 million cubic meters disappeared without a trace on ukrainian territory. gazprom already warned that due to the current situation , from november 28, reduce the pumping of fuel through the sudzha station in the kursk region, the moldovan authorities made an awkward attempt to explain. to be clear, all gas supplied to moldova ends up to our country, all the gas supplied to the right

bank is and will be paid by us for those volumes of gas that gazprom calls remaining in ukraine, these are our savings and reserves stored in warehouses. a reduction in supplies along the ukrainian route threatens, not only moldova . that is why the russian gas pipeline supplies fuel to slovakia and hungary. and they already buy gas from them in reverse, as it were, after the terrorist attacks on the nord stream and the cessation of supplies through the gas pipeline. yamal europe is the last route on which russian corpses wired gas enters the european union in europe, there is a fear that the problem with moldova may become the beginning of a complete cessation of transit, since disputes over certain provisions of contracts were one of the reasons for the deterioration of economic ties between russia and the west even with more complete than usually reserves providing some buffer a winter without russian gas will be a problem for europe, according to the association of european gas

infrastructure operators. now the eu gas storage is full by 95%. at the same time, as the press writes, brussels is trying to save money, since further deliveries are in doubt, and the eu should already make reserves for the future. now it remains to rely only on liquefied gas, according to the island journal , negotiations on the purchase of lng are already underway with american exporters, but there has been no progress yet, and here also asia is putting pressure on enticing suppliers. so on monday, qatar signed a 27-year supply agreement with life. nogo gas of china this is the longest lng contract to date as instability forces buyers look for long-term supplies since russia's invasion of ukraine in february, competition for lng has become intense and europe needs huge volumes to replace russian pipeline gas, which previously accounted for almost 40% of imports. so so we deliver. our energy resources

through pipelines located on the territory of the country with which we are now generally conducting hostilities of the country that bombs our settlements that kill our prisoners, we supply our energy resources to countries that are unfriendly to countries that have imposed a huge number of sanctions against us and are still going to do it in the future, and to countries that intend to generally give up our energy resources as soon as possible. so tell me, please. in doing so, we continue e as e, as, as it is conscientious, who here is the supplier. yes , this is not some kind of surly vyacheslav mikhailovich let's try to stick together or try to calm you down, thank you, first of all, everything has its time. yes, we are sometimes very much in a hurry in this fever

news. yes, and then it was shown on this diagram or on the map, guys. give us back the map, please, the route that goes just to hungary uh-huh further. there is also a link with serbia, yes, hungary, as you know, well, hungary, as a country of the european union, actively opposes and opposes sanctions, because it takes a fairly sovereign position, if they actively opposed sanctions, sanctions would not be introduced, because there is a consensus decision . they seriously delayed the adoption of these packages and, accordingly, there is further serbia which is not indicated. yes, if it concerns, as far as oil is concerned, then the organization you mentioned. not naftogaz but ukrtransnafta, which operates, is the operator of these oil pipelines, and naftogaz of ukraine is already a gas operator. yes, respectively. here, a gas corridor is shown, as it were, but nevertheless , oil also enters hungary and serbia via an e-pipe through ukraine, and i remind you that two

oil refineries located in serbia belong to russian companies. bye bye yet, that is, here, as it were, there is a certain direct dependence. yes, and serbia, in fact, has begun a route along which it will be able to receive this pipe after december 5. although the united states has now become there again. and some and throw out such knees, but about this price ceiling and so on. before that , we will think about some exceptions, we will see, and so on, nevertheless. this route is the only one you want to say that we can't do otherwise. well , now serbia would be put without oil, probably not very correct, that is, we have a question now about oil a little later about gas. we are now saying that these millions of cubic meters are deposited, different words are deposited. it can be used, speaking in human terms, ukraine steals something along the way. well, you don’t know something about the gun, i agree, i agree with moldova, or without the consent of moldova, however, that this is their storage,

because you just described. there is a time for everything, gradually, and so on. i don't see any leverage that we can use to make it happen. turned stopped. we don’t have such levers, it’s right to settle in ukraine simply not to supply gas. and that's all, then we leave without gas, not only the moldovan legs, there is a turkish route, and pridnestrovie will receive, because it always fails . that is, there we are, there will be freezers. we have such a tsunt. yes, we have, uh, a stalemate . quite right. yes time, and the time to stop gas transit to ukraine came about 9 months ago in february 2022, you can’t fight half a hat. sorry won't result, either we howl, or we do not fight, if we are at war with ukraine, we destroy its energy infrastructure. we can make some relatively

speaking, small concessions, from a series of gas goes on and on, but if ukraine violates the status quo, steals gas, increases the price of oil and gas transit, it does not matter. this needs to be turned off the problem with transdniestria is not solved by gas transit through ukraine problems with the medium term are solved by broken. i will answer george. your vocabulary, what you offer is 2/3 of the bump. sorry no, you can make concessions. you have to fully understand? no, it's entirely possible. this is how it means in from this place i need to explain, because what vyacheslav mikhailovich said turns out that we can’t afford it. yes, we are connected, which means we cannot do this. all norkin sit silent different things. ukraine violates transit contracts. all gas will not be ideal. as you rightly said, you need to interrupt spending it

does not break at all. you spoke, well you spoke, i heard weak stance, weak stance was. uh, our weak position is categorically weak . really. i will probably agree with you only that if we really want to pursue a whole policy towards the west, then the supply should be stopped somewhere else in the spring. well, then it was necessary to stop them, because now russia is indeed gazprom becoming a hostage of its own supplies. i would like to say about hungary and why excuse me, i also do not really understand why it was necessary to do it in the spring, but in the spring. means we wouldn't have a problem. let's say now we hear ursula von derl's statement that they all got rid of russian gas, but for some reason no one says that gazprom has already pumped about 80 billion. is, they didn't get rid of russian gas the problem will be next year now . that is, what was the point, that is, and gazprom continued to supply gas to those strange ones who supplied weapons, well, ukraine, that is.

what's the point of getting just money, but it's very a strange position, because in any case we throw up, ah, there is no fire branch, but apart from money. you see, there is a pre-dniester factor, we can’t, it turns out that if we suddenly stop like this, then there is such a dniester hydroelectric power station that supplies about 80% of electricity. e moldova yes, and moreover, in romania, that is, not just transnistria will suffer, moldova will suffer from this, because they immediately turn it off. why are we being held hostage? i don't understand here in my understanding the one who means there is gas, he is well done, to dictate the conditions, a long person should be the one who possesses the necessary heat for electricity, as a person who possessed not a person a country that has such a large and important resource now turns out to be a hostage , because for some reason gazprom continues, but

to follow the agreements and some agreements while there were more than seven thousand sanctions against russia, but gas will interfere. okay no we will still honor our agreements explain why were taken hostage, because citizens of the russian federation live in transnistria and russia has certain responsibility before these people. russia is not interested in russian citizens who live in transnistria to suffer. how are our opponents? this is the first second regarding serbia why is russia interested in continuing? uh, economic interaction with belgrade, because serbia remains such the last window to europe europe this is the last country there that has a direct flight connection with us. yes, already further east , ankara, turkey, has already become. there, the last country is serbia. russia is not interested in serbia a reacting to the cessation

of russian energy supplies, so that it fully accepts the position or in many respects the position of western countries and stops relations and properties that are beneficial for russia in fact. that's where the problem lies. now this, of course, would already be, but in fact, everything is needed about this was to think and plan before the start of the special operation. why was there no plan b, no military plan b, no economic plan b. it's easy to actually try plan b, you only need a planal, when there is only a plan, and a military victory there are no other options much, easier to fight. you know, if you start thinking plan b tablet, that's how we agreed, as a rule in large-scale military operations there is always a plan b and so on. wait a month. it's a little bit unproductive because you do

n't get close to the sentence in those sentences. vladislav pavlovich yes, yes, yes, suggest plan b in order to reason with these little ones without gas, sitting on our gas, but trying to twist into their hands that we mean some kind of wrong supplier. maybe there for 24 hours for 48 hours all the switches that go there. so that they understand that this threat is real, or again , now it’s not like i’m a fool. and how wrong thought. well, you know, the cutoff of supplies, perhaps, historically, there were such precedents, we survived two gas wars, not yet deliveries, moreover, as a rule. them the beginning was preceded by just a statement about gas settling. or, to be more precise, then there will be simply unauthorized selection of unauthorized selection, when alexander ivanovich medvedev yes, there is the head of the export state of those times, so this can happen, but here the question is the balance of what we win and what we lose. now, by the way, it has nothing to do with it, here the server receives through the turkish stream and further through the balkans the situation is that we can lose this, in theory, of course, the rest of the

money that we have, then we will not we will fundamentally change the situation in europe because only 20% of russian deliveries are left, which were, for example, last autumn. we also have a stand there in latvia, but this is not very much. uh, what can we win if we keep deliveries? i think that the russian leadership believes that we maintain, as it were, a reputation with our future partners, not in europe. outside of it, now the mod of europe violates the rules of the game of property rights on the side, long-term contracts on the side, no there are no insults, but russia is the opposite. and here they say. look at the frame , he trusts the chinese in long-term contracts with europe, and russia, they say, will emerge from this entire crisis as the country that honors the agreement. i am not absolutely convinced that in the current situation - this is the right decision, because the stakes are too high in ukraine. you are right that it is impossible to simultaneously conduct military operations, full-fledged practice shows that it is possible, because it is every day of gratitude. that is, you see, we have interrupted we had softly worked out stopped

working. we have gas working. he stopped working partly through one of the solka. you see, putin said that there will be. the question is yes, that is, of course, it will be interrupted to some extent anyway, but for now it is still interrupted. i think that the idea is that we maintain our reputation at the front of the house, i understand antonchik i gave you questions get out of the phone join, firstly, why are you dressed like zelensky today and secondly, it’s just an optional question. you can't tell him apart. and secondly, in the twilight on gas, on whose side is the power now on the side of us, as suppliers, or on the side of all these others, but answering the first question. i already somehow answered, in my opinion, even in this studio, this is not zelensky in general, he led the fashion for this color. look at the old photos, vladimir vladimirovich is zelensky, just cosplay vladimir vladimirovich, i did not urge you to answer my questions. seriously. well, thanks for taking it that way. here, and as for chester not strength? yes, it is impossible to put the question

in this way now, because it always stands in this way. no, no, it’s not like that, because it’s absolutely obvious that there are forces on the other side that are interested in almost completely almost 100%, and deprive european ones, by the way, other consumers of russian gas have russian netties, and so on and so forth. . forces are working seriously and so, and those terrorist attacks, let's say so on the nord stream. it was arranged precisely for this on the other side. we have people who they say, what for we supply them. let's chop. i passed to the beginning of the program. andrey vladimirovich briznev. and i'll explain. here uh. here, firstly, the first thing is surprising that he did not say. he didn’t hear, yes, he didn’t say there, so we have all sorts of idiots there who offer. no, i wo n’t say that, because you can roughly imagine that many people think so and understand that they think so on an emotional basis. well, that's

understandable. so, uh, i've said it over and over again. and i myself do it when i repeat it somehow. well, it didn’t happen very well, as if it were getting cozy. legs, ischai in any action. we must start from e. strictly speaking, there are two components of the first component. do not harm yourself the second component must be clearly understood, why are we doing this? well , for example, here is this story. so, with the selection of gas, allegedly the selection of the moldovan, although in fact. this is a virtual reverse. uh, what the moldavian is talking about, there are normal tools to reduce these volumes of supplies, for which, accordingly, we will already save 50%, they pay even more, they will take away more and even so in this case, it is an absolutely legal construction. we are normal, which means we are a supplier. we just don't cut it. since you are so once, so we answer like this to cut off completely, but we are to whom, in fact, like this, sharply, we will do it to whom, in fact, okay? we will freeze

ukraine with this no there, then such a volume that it does not solve anything. but at the same time we did it. yes , we are, as it were, questioning ourselves, which means, respectively, as if a supplier who took it with his own hand. eh, screwed up. after all, we are the whole world we say, this is for us, honestly i tell us the opinion of the west. in general, to sneeze at him, to be honest, the opinion of the east is that about the fact that we are trying to keep our reputation on the right. just. uh, the east is also looking at how russia is handling this situation. and of course, the east wants everyone to play by the rule. they are well aware of who breaks the rules, who does not. but here i am once again telling us the opinion of the west on many issues. fuck it, we look at the rest of the world with which we trade, allows us to circumvent sanctions, and so on and so forth, but we must consider the whole situation, like chess. it is necessary to come in time first

ceiling. let's do it because we don't care what the smell is in the next situations. yes, it is here that it is important for us what the smell will say, because the fifth of december is such a date where two decisions came together at once, firstly, the eu embargo on offshore oil supplies. from russia, secondly, the introduction of this very six months, in my opinion, discussed the ceiling of prices for russian oil. come on, let's try to see how it all might look later, because when did any specific figure for this marginal price appear. already today , western countries, led by the united states, can agree on a specific price ceiling for russian oil. according to the wall street journal , we are talking about sixty dollars per barrel. now the average price for russian oil is about $70-80. the restriction should come into force on december 5. although according to bloomberg there will be another one and a half month transition period. russia for everything

these dances with oil letters are answered succinctly by the installers of the ceiling and everyone who supports them simply will not receive our energy resources. here and the western press is not present. the us is concerned that oil and fuel prices will skyrocket again if europe's ban on russian oil imports, which comes into effect in early december, further cuts supplies to the world market. against this, the ceiling is calculated; it will ensure the flow of russian oil to the market even after the entry into force of the anti-russian emberg. after clarification by the ministry of finance it became clear to the united states that there are a lot of holes in the notorious ceiling, firstly, oil that will be significantly processed outside russia does not fall under the sanctions, and secondly, bulgaria, croatia and landlocked countries of the european union are allowed to neglect the ceiling. finally , the sanctions will not apply to oil shipped to japan as part of the sakhalin-2 project; however , they counted on an indulgence, without waiting for an american blessing last

monday. sofia agreed with lukoil neftekhim bulgaria on the export of petroleum products bypassing sanctions until the end of 2024, the company will be based in this country and thus will cost the sanctions. the deal looks good for lukoil as, de facto, bulgaria will become the base for a partial european petroleum emberg avoidance, i.e. gasoline and diesel produced from russian oil outside the bloc, which otherwise follows eu-backed rules such as the upcoming price cap on russian oil. oil can enter the single market those countries that sanctions against russia is not officially introduced and decided to make the most of them . bloomberg writes that china has been waiting and has paused oil purchases from russia, anticipating that prices will become lower . turkey has been more aggressive last week. ankara warned world carriers that from december 1 it will require insurance from ships passing through the bosphorus and davyls, and these ships carrying oil at a price above the

notorious ceiling will not receive insurance from western companies and it turns out that turkey indirectly supported oil sanctions. russia has been shipping nearly 650,000 barrels of its own oil per day through the black sea port of novorossiysk over the past six months, according to bloomberg, and the director of the turkish maritime regulator confirmed that the motive was to comply with eu sanctions. although turkey is not part of them, there are examples of outright hypocrisy. that's how it happened the other day. it is known that poland does not plan to abandon russian oil, according to the merchant, warsaw extended the contract for the purchase of fuel from russia for next year, he would have been fortunate enough not to fall under the restriction through the druzhba oil pipeline . but in kiev, on druzhba, they decided to earn extra money and raise the price by 20% for the transit of our oil through their territory vyacheslav mikhailovich can you explain to me again here i don’t understand how this ceiling is generally real and how much it will work, because we read the

explanation the united states department of the treasury, they tell us, under all this ceiling , oil does not fall, which will be significantly processed outside of russia. all the oil which goes beyond the borders of russia goes to oil refineries goes either to petrochemistry or to fuel. it is not significantly recycled. explain to me then vyacheslav, you know, listening to the plot, i caught everything on the idea that, in addition to translation from english into russian, it is still necessary. a translator from sanctions to humanity. why, since here it is possible to arrange a discussion, it means, firstly, this is outrageous rudeness. yes, that is e, you know the russian proverb. as i want so and the doctor. tomorrow i so today this further explanation will be some and so on, that is, the essence of this is the following. first, these two things are the introduction of the ceiling on the price and the introduction of the barr. they contradict each other philosophically, either you do not buy oil as a commodity, or you limit the price and continue. well, there are exceptions. yes, there is friendship, respectively, croatia is there for deliveries, when

through those countries that do not have access to the maritime infrastructure they were allowed more now out of friendship. will take japan will sell. further, yes, the function of all these restrictions. well, ideally, of course, generally isolate. yes, completely both the russian economy and the oil and gas industry, but since they cannot afford it. they begin to psychologically influence not those who refuse to buy, but those who will continue to buy oil, but nevertheless they will be indicated by price targets. yes, this is first, uh, something new. yes, in the oil market, since it is a specific administrative, intervention, price and market mechanisms that have been developed and are present on the market for decades. yes, that is, it is, in fact, a departure from the global market model that was created by the united. how much money will we lose in bars? or we won't lose anything in money. if we sell a little less, the price will rise a little, the money will turn out to be the same

as that declared, it is even higher than the market value of russian oil. yes, the one they came out 60, as far as i understand. how much is it selling for now? well, now in the quote they sat down a bit, then went up, there 89 and so on, but russian oil is sold at a discount, as we know, yes, 15-17 dollars is still more than our budget, right, of course, that is, budget, we are still winning, but this is not the point colleagues, not for a second the point, in principle, is in the very look, either we agree. eh, again, not with the americans. but the fact that now china was announced in the plot and-and made a certain pause yes, turkey is something there. well, with insurance there will be the issue is resolved, and through the state mechanism. yes it is already the question was announced. yes, but still a whale. there are, india two indian processor companies. so far , too, have suspended active. yes, purchases you see , of course, it is beneficial for these countries if the

ceiling is lower than the market, the current cost, even with a discount, why not. they seem to not support the ceiling. listen, well. we will buy at this price to buy to the ceiling, right? the most important moment. now i will finish, yes, in that, in addition to announcing that we will not work with unfriendly countries in ceiling and so on. and how we will work, but still many times it was said that all price indicators are formed on the western stock exchange platforms and western price agencies. we sit in them, our taxes are calculated based on western indicators. and we will continue to work now with these western indicators, which are denominated in us dollars. that is the question, what do we propose, except for the refusal, in fact, to supply oil to these unfriendly countries, and we will also supply friendly ones through these quotes are in petrodollars, uh, which are denominated. let's then sit down with friendly countries and talk, because with these unfriendly ones everything that you explain to me

is not you, but in general. hmm, all this can be solved, it will be solved somehow. it won't be there to inflict some. terrible, damage, some figure is possible. now we are selling to me. yes, that's the way, how much are we and for how much? well, look, we're going to have a drop in loot anyway. yes, because of all these restrictions. here we are, well, it was said in the plot. we are essentially reduced supplies by four times, in fact set the price per barrel in europe yes, but the price is determined by the market. now we are trading, in the area there are 60 plus, yes, yes, this is the worst option . what? here you are 40, they announced, as it were, yes, that is, wait. this is what was announced means it was 40 60 the moment of another colleague. wait. if this all starts to work badly for us, a-a figure.

how much will a barrel cost, which we will sell friendly, so we will say not friendly, we are not selling anything to you anymore. but it's still will affect everything else, which means with our friends. how much are we working for? how much will we work for, once again i'm talking about price indicators, which are formed on international reading european ones and you want to say that now it is impossible to answer my question. it may be impossible, the price will be formed there, and it will all be me, it will depend on the world price. no, of course, some kind of discount, of course, yes. here it is important here is such an important moment, look. here they are this story. as far as i understand with antonia, once again, here's a clarification. here is some the ceiling, 60, which western countries set us for a second, if i'm wrong, which will not voice the ceiling, which they voice, our friendly countries will demand a discount from the market price, there 80 or from the very ceiling of 60 they

will demand. for billions of dollars yes, because no one can answer this now. this is a matter of bilateral negotiations. with the same, let's say chinese, all different numbers will be partners. everyone will have different numbers obviously. have a concept of how they will behave lead. i don't see this concept in our country, neither in the corporation nor in the company. we continue to work in the same global system in which we worked before all these two questions come to the fore. next year we have the twenty-third dash twenty- fifth the price of oil, the budget, to make our budget converge, it costs 60 dollars. we will get this price or we will get it at the end of the year, or we will get lower then we will need to cover something there or it will be higher, despite all these ceilings, because this is a fundamental point, about which vladimir needs to pump in fact. this is a very interesting question. i think that this is a very smart move on the part of the west to set such a price, that is, 60-70 dollars. because we sell to our friends. as we call them cheaper,

that is, the real price at which we sell china india turkey is 55, maximum 65 dollars. that is, we sell our friends cheaper, and our enemies say guys, and we are ready to take more, and then there will be a question we are ready to trade a little with our homeland and sell here. uh second moment because they as a rule, vyacheslav mikhailovich noted that he also introduces imbarka. uh-huh, you know, that is, they are like when we are ready to buy more expensive, but we will not do it, because we forbid you to sell oil. margo is found from the new year on an oil product. and so they won't be able to buy it. there will be problems, and the eu countries and the g7 are ready to buy oil, but the embargo has been lower than the ceiling since december 5. the problem of colleagues is the ceiling, only another problem is the supply of russian marine consignments by sea. it does not matter ceiling or without not the same position in the relationship between russia and the west, and this is a valuable topic, in general,

the reorganization of oil pricing. and this reorganization will categorically, of course, not be to the liking of the guardianship countries. here, well, everyone knows, because today russia tomorrow is b, because none of those countries that trade at market prices need huge volumes of oil, in case the russians agree on the price dumping, that is, if russia will sell , relatively speaking, for 60 or 50, then those will have to reduce, because then, well, this is the rule of competition, so, and we have already forgotten what the president said, that we will not sell. if we don't. you see, this is the genius, this is the evil genius of the americans, what do they count on when they put this number, they really do. this is about the money that we trade, and they are counting on the fact that you still will not go into debt. that is, we will be the first to blink and will not agree to what we have announced, that we will not trade it. at in this case, they are a problem, what they are not afraid of, they are afraid of a reduction in production uh-huh, so they need

us to somehow agree to supply oil at the price they offer, if we do not agree, why did the president say, what did novak say then it hits them. and here, who is the first magnet, look, if all of a sudden we are really going to the ceiling, and we stop deliveries to those countries that have joined this ceiling, it turns out that we should cut production correctly in the reduction of production - it's a heavy technological step. we are ready for this step, the wrong approach is wrong. this is a very common opinion. if we talk specifically in the field, production, in principle, because of the pandemic, we, in principle, regulated production quite well, including in the northern territories. therefore, this thesis should be abandoned. that is, we can easily turn on the crane and we will turn it on, because next year, according to various e estimates, we will produce a little more than 9 million.

will, the united states they will have 12 plus there. but if you believe in a forecast, yes, somewhere between us there will be, saudi arabia, respectively , the question is, it’s you for us, well, that is, and for us prey, which gives you know how we always become attached to this one 550 million, mine 600, there and so on, it makes sense to mine them if we cannot sell them, and sell them at a normal price and on those. uh, conditions on the conditions on which we want, let these volumes lie down, yes, a better time. yes, we'd better cut it down booty, respectively. i don't know if our colleagues competitors there will be able to quickly occupy saudi arabia. yes, i think not. yes, but nonetheless. in this, in this paradigm, next year should be considered there. let's make it harder. then now we will pause and offer. so you say that we, well, in general, we can calmly resolve issues with the volumes, yes, of production, and if we have problems of a technological nature? and actually begins to suffer. here

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we will sell, at what price we simply won’t be able to mine, because we will run out of spare parts or something needs to be repaired. and we do n't want to fix it. let's look at examples, there is enough here too. first of all , we are talking about gas turbine plants, without which it is impossible to operate thermal power plants and combined heat and power plants in total, according to forbes, in russia there are about 100 turbines from abroad, but their total capacity is not critical, about 20%, a month ago. our power engineers said that some power plants. it may have to be frozen, because the repair of western equipment made it difficult, but by the way, the other day, norwegian manufacturers of diesel and gas engines engines. he stated that he intends to fulfill his contracts and plans to repair more than 20 gas turbines, depending on foreign gas turbines. russia felt 5 years ago ago, a scandal erupted in the crimea then for the peninsula. i had to purchase

four siemens turbines on the secondary market for new tests in sevastopol and simferopol, after the purchase they were finalized by russian specialists, the turbine was issued russian certificates, however, in a german company. all this was considered a violation of the males introduced against the crimea. siemens has repeatedly filed lawsuits in russian courts against rostec structures, but the lawsuits have not been successful, however, foreign journalists have another reason for gloating. russia is trying to circumvent western restrictions in many ways. in addition, against the backdrop of new restrictions. moscow is trying hard to get new investors and technologies that it badly needs to get out of the crisis indicators in the case of gazprom. this year, the company had to stop pumping gas through nord stream, one of the gas turbine engines produced. again, siemens sent for scheduled repairs to canada, products in russia were not

returned after the imposition of sanctions, but it turned out to be in germany at gazprom then stated that such decisions of the german company do not comply with the terms of the contract. and this summer, without an american turbine in tatarstan, the reconstruction project, the largest thermal power plant in zainskaya, was stopped, the americans refused to supply the turbine already paid for, there are problems with hydroelectric power plants. for them, according to russian power engineers, there are not enough microchip components for compressors of electric motors. well, here we see, yes, we have concentrated on the turbines. that is, that is what concerns transportation about production did not begin to speak. although , too. in general, it is known that we use, er, foreign technologies there, while remaining on turbines 20% of imports. this is a serious dependence, or we, in general, can handle this on our own. well, i believe that we can manage on our own, because the competencies have largely been preserved. that is, we can return to the production of part of what was

produced during the soviet union from equipment. yes, it may be, uh, less modern, but it will at least be equal to turkish turkish stream works. as far as i understand on our turbines. well, i'm talking about the fact that we will have to expand both the range and the actual volume of production. okay. and as for the production, well, this is not in the plot. well, there, there are a lot of very foreign technologies and the actual equipment itself, as it were, these same companies of competence. they were right here . well, look. it depends on how we treat this, if we treat it, that is, the situation, of course, with production is not simple, especially as we are after we sat down on the breadbird. do you remember all these famous scandals associated with this company, when our oil industry turned out to be closely tied to it, uh, if we treat it as it is now, that is, we will, despite all the sanctions, fulfill all the conditions of everything there you can, yes, then, probably, and what are you

calling for? that is, i call for the fact that in the conditions, if we are put in such a position, we must use the experience of china. we have our own mechanical engineering. we have our own factories. we have their competencies does not present any great difficulty, something that we lack. just simply how do the chinese make out copy, like, spitting on all the copyright balls to produce their questions. and how long does it take to parse copy and so on, because the prices that i saw, that's all you say, yes yes yes, well 5 6 7 and these 5 6 7 years. what do we depend on a key factor in the overall economic policy? right now, all mechanical engineering is absolutely and all machine mood c is experiencing tank building huge shortage of working capital. that is, uh bull little money simple money working capital is small, because the high cost of credit you have no engineering. in principle,

engineers do not work under the 7.5% rate of the central bank. if all of a sudden this money is just like that , money is fast, come, and then there is no one to get it, to use a fraught language, there are engineers who can handle it quickly, and there are engineers, i talked to several enterprises. here i have good friends of this cherepovets or a dark mechanical plant baglaev nikolayevich they have the competence, just in petrochemistry, they came to our oilmen with their competencies, that they are ready to start replacing part of the production. but they are told that the next thing is well , let's, yes, you produce, we will buy from you. he says, and i need a turnover in order to disagree with anything at all, what is better to disagree. e humulation. at first i did the economic side, and then literally a couple of words about moral and ethical economic issues such as economics in general russia is now under very serious pressure, these are western sanctions and sanctions from some western partners. outside the west, they

put significant pressure on the economy. in addition, there are other points of pressure. hundreds of thousands of people left russia this year. we well we can, so here in this mode, and semi-authors, when we can first of all rely on ourselves on our own strengths. we already existed. we can do it right, if we can, here's how the soviet union coped with it, it seems they did a good job, how the operators did it, i 'll answer the question. soviet factories. were built on the western sinology. is it stupid in the meat tamashevich. petlyakov is a well-known aircraft designer to you, you even know where they, uh, worked, they worked in a sharashka prison. here in moscow to repeat this experience

designer bench and wait. we are realists correctly realists, means its today it sounds. watch today. wait a joke. yes, you are mine. why don't you see you didn't say? and, because you say all the things that you don’t want to shift to our reality. as an example , today it sounds fantastic, but in 3 years, when we will have problems with the aircraft industry, because here we are talking about turbines, and we have the vast majority of the aircraft fleet of foreign ones. replace like this, that's it, we can't just transport at once. wait, please, peregrine falcons. all i i understand, yes, quietly, quietly. just don't be nervous, it seems strange to me. uh, the conclusion is that this technological breakthrough can be provided through? yes, only uh, put in parallel banned the exit of the soviet union is sealed, understandable, that is, you want you want to say? i realized that only now the conditions of a very, very tough such thirties are

attractive. specialists, when could now do this, we can't blunt factories directly cycle this, we can't do it. we have specific examples of how to work in order to replace imports some examples are more successful, some not so successful. look at us sakhalin two works. yes, and little fpg works. sakhalin, the first production fell in the summer, has now recovered, so we have examples of turbines. ladoga about which you spoke in relation to the turkish stream. yes, they were nee, of course, foreign, but such examples are already largely localized, in fact, the ocean stanislav pavlovich pg as soon as he totally began to sign up and go out there from a technological point of view yamal lng suspended the construction of the next queue, because to replace some equipment has three large queues, in short, the fourth is a small one, all of them work. do not confuse with arti lord 2 artik spg-2. i won't interrupt r2.

there may be a discussion, yes, to arrange a lot there, which also has prospects, mi son spoke at a forum in sochi and said it takes 3-4 years to replace all decisions. i would be a supporter, there are hands for this. it's just that the frames believe that there is. i think being responsible for his words is another matter, what is it it was necessary to start from the fourteenth year, i am personally a supporter of some national project, when not just private companies are working , but will be, the state guides are distributed the task, including taking into account technology companies, there are a lot of things that we do rosatom, but they need to unite everyone. if we took up the head, we'd be in a few years already. in general, it turns out. everything that is now three or four years can be done. the first part was discussed now, uh, everything rests. pardon me for being banal in some the political decision here, which will be taken, how everything should be done and how competitions should be done. give money and the like, of course, everything has changed in other options. no, because here we are again returning to plan b, we don’t have it, we don’t need it. we only have a plan, but we need to a beat and b understand that this is for some time

long-term, which means that the way to really survive somehow as a state and ensure some level of prosperity is enough for life. this is import substitution according to the iranian version, as or in the chinese version, when the guys just stole technology, figured out who shouldn't. here is one that is impossible without sharashkas, but here it’s not a shambles, even in soviet versions. apparently. ah. vitya apparently forgot. i'm sorry. it is connected with the fact that we americans built everything, american design bureaus built for us. we piled on everything, because they have people there more often than a crisis, they needed at least some thirties, there would be no rights. unless the chinese come. well it is clear. well, let's do something else then. so in this the conversation cannot go to any extremes, it’s not a political decision, a political decision was made a long time ago and the government is working, how many defense factories work in four shifts, and how it

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becomes clear. we continue. we are completely domestic products. we are not in any country in the world. now you won't find it anymore, because everywhere there is still such an influence of globalism. let's continue about addiction, there was an energy sphere, but it's like such a direct, very important, critically important, and now, uh, how to say? consumer probably, right? well, households have all sorts of food, clothes, shoes, appliances, all kinds of household ones, which means, like we have, uh, now things have been going on for these few months, and after february. we have discussed this over and over again. calls to nationalize something there. something there will change a little to store. and what entrepreneurs have bought from us, this is especially noticeable in the region. eh, there it is. in the field of food a

continues to work and practically does not change, the name is an exception - this is mcdonald's - this is a delicious point. it seems like, as everyone said, horrors are horrors , but they, uh, we must give them their due, they are cheaper to risk and completely changed the name the rest say. so we, uh, try not to be very different from this western one of ours. predecessor, because the customer is already used to the consumer. if we call ourselves something different now, then it is there. the question arises. this is from the fact that hmm there is no confidence in, in fact, in oneself in one's own abilities, right? or is that what we used to call it? and how is this western worship of the west? let's

start with e. hmm food beyond everyones let's see how much they have changed there both in names and in what they do. after the west imposed sanctions in 2014, crimea on the peninsula, like mushrooms after the rain, copies of western fast food restaurants kfc began to appear, in fact, they only changed the sign to cfc, the menu and logo remained almost unchanged, and the starbucks coffee chain in sevastopol was renamed to old. dax, they went the same way to donetsk to replace the departed. mcdonald's has arrived. don-mak wants a large number of people. we have a holiday today. have us same republican opened. other russian cities followed the same path after february 24, the closed starbucks coffee houses were bought out by rapper timati and restaurateur anton pinsky

the new owners did not carry out a major rebranding, they removed a couple of letters from the name and slightly changed the logo, enlarging the portrait of the mermaid and dressing her in a kokoshnik. they explained that in this way they wanted to keep customers. let's call her the princess swan or just the russian beauty. we have, uh, traditional, and such ethnos a in the form of a kokoshnik. here it is used here, plus russia is famous for the most beautiful women in the world out of five thousand , the majority used the circle, respectively. we decided not to argue. e with a vision just and leave from elements in pursuit of customers in russia , western brands used to copy the usual coca-cola fan, that is, after the departure of the american company, pride was replaced by russian counterparts, kulla fancy and street from the factory of the ochakova label of drinks, while painfully reminiscent of the originals the taste of pupae let

's consonant with a foreign name, names are an old russian tradition. many still believe that the domestic brand of women's clothing zarina is the division that left our spanish country the dawn of the ozon marketplace is consonant with the american giant amazon, another clone dr. curler. doctor yorker, similar to the german manufacturer, not only in name, but also in logo, however, very often, russian counterparts of western brands cause nothing but disappointment due to the complete inconsistency with familiar products. yuri mikhailovich maybe i'm exaggerating this, well, it's a normal marketing move, you recognize the normal move as entrepreneurs. now there is no need to invent anything. if someone bought company, yes, a big one just change the letter. and why then do you need to change or leave a claim to definitely present, if it will not be

changed, here they are at the time of sale, many. what needs to be changed, uh, the name of the company, so the entrepreneur, uh, without inventing anything, changes a couple of sides and starts working. the main thing is that the product is really of high quality, you understand, and what else do i want to tell you? the fact is that everything that was produced in russia let's say all these enterprises, yes, which worked for all these, and the company still remains, but it hasn’t gone away, even if, let’s say, ikea closed the store, then all the markets around ikea began to sell 3-4 times more ikea closed, and all the products that were produced in russia went to wholesale markets for building materials and everything was made there , just why mcdonald's earned so quickly, because 99% of everything was beautiful, it was tasty, that is, relatively. here again, coca-cola format products. yes, i know people who blindly try, this is it

they try what was before or brought reality from the west. this very jar is the original, and they honestly distinguish it like this that's because they always drink it, isn't there a feeling here that it's the same thing, in my opinion it's the same thing for me i wanted the feeling that we are trying somehow uncertainly, well, not to deceive, but to mislead, because it became different. well , firstly, and secondly, why not honestly name everything, this is not some kind of western format, but in our opinion, it’s going on with us now, like a soft turn or people are not ready for this. van he is soft is impossible. here to change. so they really took the risk and changed mcdonald 's delicious point so let's see, nothing seems to have changed the same way here, but mostly entrepreneurs, of course, but try to stick to the logo of the name that existed. but what will happen next, and i also disagree about coca-cola. it is not always the same when it was produced abroad and compared with lashes. she was always

different, she was easy to distinguish. so here's what we're talking about. it may not be necessary now. to do this, if the components that were supplied from abroad, and we do not have them in such quantity, we will replace them. in terms of food, in my opinion, there is no such thing at all. everything was done on our products. additives, additives have always been. yes, of course, and therefore the taste may change. in which direction it may be tasteless, but not useful, maybe even for the better and useful, maybe even tastier, everything will depend on how quickly we orient ourselves to what we cannot bring from the west is a whole process. you see, changes are underway. we pour a little history. yes, i want the soviet union, i just want to say, psychologically, we had a huge total deficit. yes, and in general, psychological, we will reach everything that does not come to say that we were taught that it was imported. so, like, i want to

ask vladimir alexandrovich about this. attachments of some kind because this letter. yes, that's the one. hmm yes, she's a little bit here now, here she's changed a little. listen a long time ago different, the craftsmen turned it upside down and decided the mind. yes, that is it here. once we got used to something and now we will be doomed to live with this letter for the rest of our lives, or as you understand, firstly, here i am to the fact that it doesn’t matter what quality the product we are trying to make. the main thing is that on it this is the plywood that you brought. it's uh, the noisiest the loudest. here is the transition from mcdonald's to a delicious point more than others, and there were no such who open in the country, as they said at the very beginning of the report a huge a number of its new small production outlets of various coffee restaurants runaways. anything and, uh, exactly the same as here only in

a small one. only each in his place is the owner of these shops and these cafes and run-ins. they make it to their liking. there are no rules, there are no scientifically sound ones. uh, not at all, only the taste of the owner. and as the owner. he begins to think about what is already popular, what was already in demand. and what can he borrow. here is the element of borrowing in naming, it's incredibly common not only in russia but all over the world a and uh, hmm there is no , that is, scientifically sound research. how to conduct how to study how to ask questions? all this is science prepared here, nobody uses it. here are these private entrepreneurs who open their own businesses, whether in food or in any other. only personal taste personal taste and leapfrog begins. they want to register it later.

it turns out that there are already 150 people. on them it registered under the same categories. so they have to give up some of their names on the go, which they have fallen in love with and it is not necessary that there are a lot of foreign russian names in these here. and, if we talk about the taste of the consumer. we are now turning away from the west at the state level in one way or another, saying that there are some values ​​there, bad ones, and so on and so forth. here are our people, they are also ready to turn their backs on western names and western brands, that is, with two coffee houses, where there is only one name there is a conditional starks, and the other is there at the samovar. me and my masha i exaggerate. yes, the buyer, where will he go, because it may even be consonant. or maybe because it is written in a foreign language, but look at the end of the nineties, when we were oversaturated with imported western products, on the contrary, the wave went to the doctor's native sausage there, lovers of the doctor's are always like that. it's indian tea for

100,000 more when it was oversaturated, as it happens. now it's 30 years later. e of how it all opened up from widely began to appear. yes in stores just need to carry out logical research had time to conduct them. and i also want to say that this is not it. you are not a national policy, we do not have such a body. we do not have such a structure that would organize all this into a structure of representatives, naturally, elena nikolaevna, you are the same structure. wait what we have at the state level from everything foreign. here i am, for example, nowhere is the president from anyone, who is in his address. he says that there are the very values ​​that we do not loved and no longer valued. they mean that we do not want these values. and if we do not want these values, then we, accordingly, turn to them, not with our faces, but with our other places. these values ​​are separate business separately. let's

share values ​​that are alien to us, but we hear all the time that these brothers and these and people are generally different and everything is different, and i have never heard at the state level that comrades are dear russian businesses, we are going there with all our might. we close there, and we drink coffee, our buns, we eat ours, only ours. we see advertisements with you that we are even ours, well, conditionally , members of the government came and ate and spoke only russian cheese, only russian wine. i now have such a poster hanging about a year ago. he was already eating a not very appetizing look, either mackerel, or something was written to eat fish. this, as i found out then, turned out to be somehow there was no desire to promote our fatherland, but this was a member of the government, anyway. yes, we are national at our state level. we but in fact, they didn’t make a priority, and we didn’t

say, to all of our entire population , let’s go, dear ones. look at our business now regardless of any sanctions. here is an explanation of the production, provided here, yes, those who, well, probably in moscow i remember exactly other cities. less when yuri mikhailovich the kingdom of heaven to him pushed this one here, how this russian bistro was like that. well, listen to this, everyone knows that this is luzhkov , well, the most, of course, did not appear in advertising, but they invested in it and it turned out to be a zilch, but because it was tasteless, yes, it turned out very tasteless. yes , but agree that now there are a lot of delicious things, a lot of great things. and if we say, let’s say, because the same cheese, which we now closed in the fourteenth year, is already italian cheese, we don’t need excellent cheese, generally russian-made and so on, and everyone eats it every day, you know, we don’t have enough by and large. this is our inner

patriotism, when we all turn our faces ourselves, because good quality is much a good example was given, because i myself buy a lot of cheese, such a cheese, the site is a lot of all this to bring people. all these, but all these cheeses they all have, good ones, without exception, the name under france under italy can be under i why to this kind, because we have a long time ago, it’s not after the twenty-fourth of february. this is such a whole cluster of various brands. we are now talking about, probably, shoes, clothes, which they are trying to show with all their might. no no no. we are foreigners , we are not russian. we are generally to this to this country relations. although, in fact, they were produced here or in china and that's it. it has been chosen for a long time only russian and what do you want, the trend is clearly visible among clothing manufacturers, the well-known austin chain of stores in russia is not at all foreign , according to taz, the brand is a daughter of our company

sportmaster . it was launched in 1995 in st. petersburg what the manufacturer honestly writes about on its website, and in 2008 it was opened in samara. the first store in the lime chain which many people accept abroad, we don’t see here, there are brands that make podium copies and pass them off as their own design. this is bad. we see inspiration here, and somewhere the sanlaran style is somewhere style. chanel somewhere miomyo style, but it's not a copy. this is an opportunity to give the consumer to wear fashionable clothes under foreign brands and shoe manufacturers disguise themselves. it would seem that the shoes of ralph ringer, german in name, are expected in moscow, the moscow region and vladimir, from germany, only the name and the brand thomas müns. legend the manufacturer says the company is based in germany at the company. there is even a german yurzo. however , the journalists of the spiegel edition quickly figured out the

catch. a call to the company's office in düsseldorf is answered by a young man in russian, but then he quickly catches on, switches to german and says no accent thomas müns, of course, the german company has ambitious development plans and is selling well in italy musically and foreign-sounding shoe brand karla pasolini was actually founded by a russian. ilya reznikov this shoe is made in china and portugal, and camelot shoes are also poured in china, the name is also pouring, which resembles something originally british , carnaby brands are also positioned as english, and chester , however, if you look closely, the shoes are made in china by the companies themselves explain, it's the cheapest way. well, radiation is the price of education and it is most profitable for us to do it in china, since there is a huge fabric market, a huge accessory market here, and there are a

lot of fabrics that i live in. at a very high level, we unfortunately, they were not satisfied with the quality that they offered us, for example, in russia , russian electronics manufacturers also actively use chinese factories. true, here again the bias towards europe includes pseudo-nametborg , founded in russia in 2001, as well as kitford elenberg explay and vitec. most companies are true of their russian origin do not hide. manufacturers of tableware, gippel and berkut are also pseudo-european companies. this is not advertised very much, however , you are unlikely to find these products in eu stores. as well as the products of eric krause. these german stationery, as the quality manufacturer claims, are produced mainly in southeast asia and are sold mainly in russia and

belarus about the cheese. i've been making cheese for 20 years. it's and now i'm in charge. yes, i mean, when my cheese supplied high-quality cheese, and high-quality cheese is now in the store. no, you don't buy it. you buy one palm, i was told that you should not write that you are a russian manufacturer. i will not say everything is called. what will i be called? we are here for you now in 3 days . we will draw everything with such letters in english, and foreign words. when your cheese is sold, it was before all the embargoes, until now, if there is a russian name, all the category managers explained to me that there will be no sale at all. if we talk about the fact that we start some brands of our own yes, raising mcdonald's does not change anything there . yes, just the name of course here. i am now doing uh, the production there is snail and i have uh, it is called balaevsky for texture. i will not write anything foreign there,

but i do not have a single competitor. i do not have them. yes, and, of course, i will promote my brand and the networks cannot tell me anything, because why not . think that we are talking about me i do not know from the fabric. why are you talking about snails? because this is such a production for me was the word manufactory, it's like production. this is something personal. this is a native close and for me any word “manufactory” sounds like something. and who will represent even after my death and for another tens of a hundred no one is exactly how the emphasis is from cargo yes, yes, yes all all crooks somehow know. it's me, i'm breaking the market. it won't be from cargo from cargo - it's 12 snails. i have a kilogram of packaging with you come again on the net or there is this manufactory, your balala people will go to buy from cargo because it sounds french. i understand correctly, unfortunately, and even to my

joy will not come, because you said exactly with cheese, on the contrary, i will explain, because the snail that i don’t have anymore, no one, i directly contradicts what you told us about the quality position you have an explanation. uh, why are all these demanding? eh, look at such an angel there in france. that's what they told me on the networks. we, when we take italian mozzarella, they put the production date for us there 2 weeks ahead. here they put them from italy for now. we did it all again before embargo for two weeks in advance, yes production. it 's about fraud. come on, yes, here we have, we have two vladimir viktorovich and such a naming. yes, and they sit opposite each other? yeah , let's get your explanation, it's really some kind of trend that we're going faster on that name hmm that looks foreign. no

, look, there is another trend, some kind of directly opposite, for example, today in moscow they solemnly launched the mosfilm plant called moskvich yes. but they say that this is not a moskvich, but the chinese, you are now watching this differently. and now let's get back to naping, a simple test, so pushkin's apple fruit is of german quality, and japanese electronics is something that is immediately at an unconditional level for a person. eh, collected here. here in my head, if the cheese is swiss or french, if the wine is better, chateau e, depacket , you don’t need to call it just some kind of draft package. all the same, i just don’t understand somewhere in my life i saw wine. uh, well, the price tag is when everything was sold in bags, but it was called zipslug, you know what this is such a wine zips, well, the price tag was written in russian zip wine because the

san-club was written on the bag. well, those who filled out these price tags, they read it. here, how would it turn out like this, you understand, well, i mean that a person has a habit of perceiving products in a certain way, what is good, and what is bad, if we do not lose, we live by stereotypes, of course , it is the stereotype that is sold, the refrigerator is very good. i suggest that the huge advertising budgets that formed in due time. a huge number of its consumers with stable tastes, of course, now it makes no sense for russian companies that produce or rename to change, radically, because a person will not instantly rebuild at the same point and taste, as we saw it, people have very successfully rebuilt instantly and today they are completely completely satisfied, therefore patriotism. and what does patriotism have to do with patriotism, this love for the motherland, love for everything, naturally for one’s own yes , there is, wait, i’ll explain to you why

patriotism is here, because those are the very specialists, which you mentioned at the time. eh, they got it into my head that it's american, which means that the americans are better too. that's all, they are not shy about it. they really quite sincerely think so, maybe not even always correctly, but they have contributed in this way. here in this maintenance of patriotism, probably no one will say that americans are not enough patriotic worthy people, including due to this, i agree with you, but we instantly presume. there are no millions of its consumers, and now we are talking about moment, while here is a colleague forms, indeed. eh, maybe the time has already come, maybe the time has come when you need to change something, of course, you need to pretend. it's just that this story could be perceived differently. yes , look, we find ourselves able to make shoes ourselves and in quality. well, there is clothes to sew. and we are still trying. it's somehow. it's not us, really. no. not us, it's the italians. and this can

not be all this together, and then russian will be better bought, for example, it will be, for example, a transitional moment when, on the one hand , this niche cannot be abandoned, and in parallel they need to be accustomed to a completely new one, because snails. for example, i eat at my mother's in anapa when i just pick them from grapes. i really like to buy and just what? well, what are you? no, of course, i'm cooking. there are technologies. need to freeze soak again and so on, so when a colleague will do. so he tells you, you will come what kind of proud to buy or buy all the same ours. i will buy ours and do. it's many times and the same i do with iris. yes, unfortunately, so far, farmers, who produce both in my region and in others. yes today networks. unfortunately, they do not represent them in a huge volume, they put such draconian demands that are completely illegal and outrageous. but, that's all, the time that we live in these conditions, russian products, appear to start a little. yes, only now you know what e i would like you now a give me some examples of the hotel business,

because we have now taken a lot. here these as their networkers. they left. there are also some name changes going on. and that's how you are in this business of yours, look. here. the most important thing is marketing, in general, what’s in a cup of coffee, what’s in a bun, what’s in a hotel. if you have a well-known brand, a trademark, then your price can immediately jump from 30 to 70% of the cost of products, what does your uncle have? that at mcdonald's it will be the same, but the markup due to the brand will be different, and business is always about money first of all. and here is the same thing. here is my hotel she is actually our brand, we have registered suitcases. yes, but if it was a hillton, then we could double the price of a room, but at the same time provide the same quality of services and people would go and wait. right now there is no hilton. here are these hotels they are now in general who owns them either belong to partners, or someone bought them out, but here you need to understand when you buy, and a ready-made business that has been developing

for about 5 years, about 10 years, then you when you buy a location, it’s generally to drink in stationary, but outlets is the main thing left or or becomes a hotel name left. well, i'm exaggerating now again, well, in these zarya hotels there is an extra charge, it immediately went down, or in this hotel there is a charge, a price tag. the same. well, let's start with the fact that the margin went down even at the start of the pandemic, and it did not recover. well, let's take it. ritz carlton it has now become just carlton and the quality people also get management the same location of the pelvis, why don't they change the name? yes , they were completely obliged to ritsy habizal. e, leaving russia, uh, ordered to change the name, but at the same time they transferred the package to their management, most likely, there is some kind of beneficial agreement in which, uh, actually to the end. yes, they are the owners, but they do not have the right to use the network's trademark there. and it is important that the consumer

wants to come there to get the same quality of the same product and the consumer must return too, so they leave, as it were, the same name, but when you try to do something from scratch, this is what i want to say is much easier to do borrowing, because it will give marketing a quick growth point, rather than starting to develop something from scratch, because selling from scratch is many times more difficult than when a person expects something. that is, you want you to advise, or rather, at first a little bit. other people's developments, well, in general , it looks like this is happening, because for fast it's always quality. you see, i have coffee shops here. yes, you are officially buying. hers is correct. i also sell a franchise. you can buy it, but my franchise cost and markup on coffee will be there 40%. and if you take french coffee there, by the way, the israeli chain, then there will be a 90% mark-up. only due to the fact that they have been

developing their brand for a certain number of years, they have invested money in it, and it really costs this money, and they will naturally earn more. since why does it turn out that the brand is again written with a foreign name. this is always more expensive, and as someone else once explained to me, that if you have yours, well, your production, there is a business there your goods. eh, a la, there is some kind of europeanized name. you have a chance somewhere there too, which means to shoot, because if you come with the name zarya yes russian, no one will go there at all. i understand very well, by the way, actually a very good question we raised, because i and others do not touch on it. and now, in fact, there are a lot of start-ups who open businesses , start-ups, well, those people who open, novice businessmen, please, but for the first time there is a question right away, but the west is closed, yes, and therefore the name to choose english for them is

no longer relevant. i communicate with such people every day. i understand that they begin to focus on the russian market, of course, in the nineties and two thousand years. we uh were too dependent on western names and it was, uh, synonymous with a quality product. not anymore. now, indeed. they said very correctly about clothes that localized brands are here. how many new designers appears amounts gladly accepts says please take those areas that are mastered. there are here e western brands. yes, and the question, for example, of localization, is fresh to localize in china now, and moreover, if you have production in russia and not in china, then you will be considered better, because everyone understands that even the name. uh, there is a european brand of clothing, it will be sewn in china and in russia it will be of better quality and this trend is definitely now, so i wanted to say briefly about, if i may, we have to interrupt a tasty point a question of a very important system quality management. yes, because, but in all

these western companies and agricultural holdings, they are delicious, period. now, if there are, there were a lot of europeans there, er, quality managers, they followed this very strictly. this is what we need to monitor and raise very carefully, because vot's quality system is starting to work well. here, let's go then. we'll move on to this now. we somehow concentrated on such a name. yes, this is not the main thing. it seems to me that here, uh, we should try to talk. o. quality that's right this product. and where is it actually done , because, as you remember , i said that now, probably, in no country there are separate products of this country, but we will not find it. well, we'll concentrate on our side in a couple of minutes. who are americans secretly preparing biological bombs for? here is the question. that's why i do it purposefully and professionally, and how

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realized that there is a search, you can't keep it, so today at 20:00 on ntv this is the meeting place on ntv , the place where everything becomes clear. we continue here exactly an hour ago. when we were in the first block, but we moved into our energy discussions to technological problems. here it is now. we again come to technological problems. that is, we can rejoice in the fact that we produce a lot of good quality goods of some kind . ah, but if we start to analyze, it turns out that they seem to be not quite ours, that is, the name will be our registration there, but inside each of this product there are a lot of some details or technological moments that we

do not belong to which we buy. that is , it turns out that these are purely domestic products. we still don't have it. a typical example of the domestic bicycle manufacturer velomotors, which produces goods under the brands stealth and desna, on the official website of the company, it is specified that the company independently produces only frames and forks for bicycles. and all attachments are imported from japan, china and europe and are assembled at a factory in the bryansk region. here we will already have a cardinal, different approach to everything in general, what is a bicycle. forward exceeds here. in general, we are on the steering wheel from the company. we also have coins of the brand, how to not quite russian, in fact , our auto industry is also. so popular car lada vesta, although it has domestic parts, including avtovaz's own development of the engine, otherwise, stuffed with foreign parts , generators, radiators, fuses and

electronics. here is a vase. here remained probably only the name of the ignition coil produces italian. elder company what can be read in the top of the coil? well, as for the thermostat, here it is no longer domestic, as it was before, and the german company bar is an even more indicative example of the restart of moskvich after renault left russia, the moscow authorities decided to start production of legends of the soviet automotive industry, but journalists quickly found out that moskvich will be stamping chinese auto brand jack today, just solemnly launched mass production quickly. the decision taken together with moscow and kamaz e allowed very short timeframes. uh, to find technological solutions that today will make it possible to produce 600 cars this year, of

which 200 will be electric and 400 on an internal combustion engine, the krasnoyarsk refrigerator plant cannot boast of a full production cycle. biryusa, a well-known soviet brand, has long ceased to be the most important domestic unit of these coolers; compressors are imported from china. well, he is a dear jaxipero, i thought that this compressor was m. which has been in operation since the late 1980s. in fact, this is also the case with such a long history and these compressors. well, these or from this plant they are used not only by biryusa they are used by european brands from imported raw materials to russia, they manage to make even domestic cosmetics are striking examples recipes of grandmother agafya and nature. sai shores, the creators of these brands, andrey trubnikov , proudly told the press in 2018 that

his company grows herbs for its products on its own, but here are 70% of the chemical components still they buy abroad, that is, we don’t have any elena nikolaevna domestic products. this is also a complete scam. well, not cheating, well, we must speak. we just understand that we live in a very technological age. and so that one side is strong in all directions. but this is not at all anywhere. well , probably only china, taking into account the size of its economy, so, of course, when they did it in due time, this emphasis. this is what we will not produce. we will not produce it. we'll buy it, we'll take it. here is the result we are now received. it's bad, isn't it? here is the result that we got. the problem is that the fact that we are building a common economy is understandable, it's a question for everyone. as far as and how much you could leave your own and produce yourself. and how much

money would have been given to people at one time, because we would not remember much now, because everything that concerns, well, let's say the same food. we are very dependent on both seeds and components for everything else and a person when he comes to the store. even sees some brands. he understands, that at some stage the taste is not the same, yes, we take a candy, like the same mishka in the north, they are a mishka in the north, because it was different, because in this mishka well, what was and what we are used to everything is imported from other places, therefore, when they started to say now that this situation is the first thing that business started talking about, give money, and we will start producing a lot of what needs to be produced. yes, programs have appeared. yes, loans have appeared, but we are behind. for the next 5-7 years. it has to be chased down. this is necessary directly to the whole world, what

called to pile on to solve this problem? the same clothes, only 17% after all, our brands are the rest of the market. completely busy. we can win it back, but we need money. i just said the right thing. i want to add, you know, there has been an economic war since the 1990s, all imported companies, but they came to the enterprise, yes, and for a bribe for a good bribe. you were just offering your components, you are going to zhiguli yes, and motors, we will only supply you with frames to make and rivet the iron there, and we will generators we will deliver to you and they agreed there, you understand, and so in all industries there were import companies of imported products, they came to us only through bribes, only through certain blows for ours. uh, officials and corrupt officials. so that was why they took over the whole market. i won't add a little, but we told vanya that at least passenger cars should be assembled on the floor. you don’t need much, you don’t need much, the entire spectrum is cargo. wait.

wait, that's about the car. maybe come here. yes, we have already started talking about him today, really, as if an occasion, true news. here they launched. here, explain to me, then, why do you need a factory, and which, uh, now renault is not who he belongs to in moscow in the city of moscow correctly, which means options. uh, to make this chinese car under the chinese name to make a chinese car for some reason called moskvich or there is a third option to make some kind of your own car. there a few years later, the first option was chosen there, which means the second, that is, we buy some kind of thing from the chinese, we collect it and we call it in moscow our technology, so that according to your third most probably executed version. and why was it necessary why? why couldn't it? well, we were assembling a chinese car so that we wanted to work properly. but how do you

want that we recently sold cars on a chinese car, she said, yes, it’s normal, normal, people are so enough, uh, chinese cars for the last month. i heard that it was called moscow, this is again the will of the owner who directs e. i'm talking about cosmetics. let's say on our example, but in snails, let's not have snails. yes but mesolithic nothing on snails. but, well, i do contract manufacturing. i find a factory and make a contract with them and that's it. it's time before there start its. naturally. all, uh, high-quality ingredients were european, except for the snail mucin, which we produce ourselves, and as soon as the shadow of the ingredients that came from germany from france stopped getting to us, we stopped production. well, now for four months. that's exactly. today the technologist wrote to me that everything,

so we changed the vials because we couldn't have the same vials, brethren. they disappeared somewhere. now we have found all domestic ingredients technologists. we have there with 15 formations in this topic and they say no worse, but only better. and why do they say this. what was stopping you? excuse me before the french or whoever stopped you there? i now yes , explaining the officials, look bought, i almost heard my answer. here, yes, you said, so the whole system was built so that we would not find each other. uh, european marketing, he aggressive he has money. this is a transnational corporation and never with the same seeds, grandmother dunya, on which our domestic production, will outdo some kind of masants there and the same thing. here we did not know that they even exist about them, we did not

know or did not want to know any information. yes, in general, they used to work like that. it was so easy. so you talked about agriculture. come foreign companies to large state farms. yes, well, not state farms, they are already talking. let's have 10 people. we will now take them to us abroad. we will pay you guests, we will give you, there are two bags of free seeds you will try, of course, they do not say. than they all went abroad for free, indome seeds, then they say, now buy. but this is an example of seed so on the sly. it's been pulled in for years. and it was a general policy and a plus. here we say to everyone saying foreign - this is the highest quality. ours it was someone it was special marketers who get killed, of course. and you can give examples of when we said that and here this is our patriotic and it's wonderful. actually. this patriotic course was domestic, but inspired. it was absolute and its influence. give examples for the first time in the ussr glue

moment appeared in the eighties then the technology was bought from the german concernnakinkel produced a novelty at the tosno plant in the leningrad region soviet people remember how trying to glue things on top they put something heavy, but even then the result was not always an outstanding moment quickly dried up . but he kept pilaf quality glue re. the ninety-first improved, when the germans bought the domestic plant in their ownership, it still remains another symbol of the zhiguli beer era, it accounted for almost 90% of drinks in the soviet union and although the whole country savored the foamy quality was not the most worthy there are many tales, like barmaids diluted it , someone claims that soda or even washing powder could be added to the drink, but the main thing is that technology has taken a big step forward since then and now almost everyone has zhiguli major domestic manufacturers. hops

are brought from abroad, and the equipment is in modern factories. completely imported, for example, the baltika company is proud of its exclusive german equipment, honestly, i will say that the taste of zhiguli is felt not according to mathematical criteria, but according to the sensations, a very pleasant sweetness and bitterness are present, not like these faceless elangers. in 1936, the age of ice cream began in the ussr, according to legend, the people's commissar of food brought food from the usa, and on stas mikoyan ice cream became a mass product, he was willingly eaten both in summer and winter one of the most expensive types was ice cream 48 kopecks. now from the old soviet ice cream. there is only one name of the recipe that has changed, just like the swiss corporation nestlé now makes it. when you come to the soviet union, in addition to seeing all the sights, you should definitely try ice cream. so were the times. foreign tourists said, a cold delicacy.

high. not only visiting guests, but the inhabitants of the soviet country themselves, appreciated classic black tea, or, in a simple way, tea with an elephant is one of the most popular drinks of the soviet era, but few then knew that it was not indian, but almost completely georgian, or the case today. the moscow tea company produces the same tea stylized as soviet, which is now really brought from india by vladimir alexandrovich, since then, people have forgotten that some of these famous and almost legendary brands were in quality. ah. so-so normal quality was and maybe because of this, that very quality kneeling was an excellent personality, for god's sake here is from my childhood memories. i remember my grandfather's grandfather's grandfather calmly, something took a sofa. like this. here he lifted it, smeared it and pressed the glue, did not glue it. well, i'm sorry, my answer is yes, in my life there was a need for elsa,

yes. you are all a happy person. yes, well, i'll tell you that, mm, the older generation. it is real. eh, i remembered these products, and the new generation gravitates towards them. seagull still work some and refrigerators and yes, everyone at the dacha. no, this is a zil refrigerator, i could hardly shout down when he turned it on. he was at that time 25 years old, he goes like this. i think it's time to revive, here's a big russian fashion russian fashion company. eh, because here we did it in the nineties, the crimeans came up with it and we did it everywhere where we could put something for free. we had a lot of different videos and posters that buy russian buy. uh, russian russian fashionable, you need to start educating people to

be yuri mikhail jeans are sewn in moscow like this cool jeans. on one machine. never mind. they may be using machines that are 100 years old already, but they are unlikely to be cool, hardly cool jeans, however, japanese fittings, italian threads are our fabric and these russian hands. what well denis i'm talking japanese japanese japanese doctor, expensive denim, that's important. ah. no, there is nothing wrong with borrowing the same moskvich before him the task is to reach the twenty-fifth year, we will , uh, produce our own battery. and something else for the twenty-seventh year of localization. 100%. no, there's nothing wrong with borrowing it all. the main thing is to do business. and now, when they talk about the fact that we have nothing there already, but they abandoned production, there is nothing left. i'll just remind you of a few figures from disrespect for those who work, and in moscow alone there are 3,500 factories of 700,000 people who

do something with these hands. and you buy, surely you have something there, moscow, but everyone forgets it. people work, starting with medicines, ending with some kind of refractory ceramics and something else. and it's all around us. just this needs to be dealt with, they need to be developed, and now there is a great opportunity, great chances . yes, they do it, they need to educate how they can promote it all. it's just one thing when we talk about jeans, and another thing when we talk about some key stories that are not the key story. may go out? yes, yes, you just understand, if you don’t have some kind of fabric, here’s a conditional factory that makes it. you can’t do everything else, no matter how you jeans or parkas. you generally said that here are russian entrepreneurs. it can completely replace imports. we saw this in the example of food products, food in general, if we take it, then the technological chains of production. we are 90% independent of anyone. yes

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state policy should be directed in order to develop the industry as much as possible for the state in the first place. so vladimir viktorovich is simply impossible, because it is impossible to produce everything must be produced. here is what is really critical for survival, and an international operation is going nowhere gets away, so does lena nikolaevna everything that concerns. food security, energy health care we definitely need to provide for ourselves, this is a priority for everyone else, of course, we need to look for partnerships, because this is a very global task and the military-industrial complex is already by definition, when vladimir says that everything should be ours, this is 100% . it’s hard for me to believe that this will be the case, but nevertheless, trains and cars, it seems to me, our engineering minds are doing entirely in condition. ride on the train in a compartment of the train russian and

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