from scratch arose and we see it on public opinion up to 60% of residents of apartment buildings. we would like to live in our own house. there were many limiting factors here. now together with the ministry of construction by the government. we 're filming all these things. first, we started standardizing this market. that is, now this is the first topic - this is about conducting. the competitions selected all the home kits that are produced and certified them to be made by real estate developers who are willing to make. eh, next. uh, the government moved to the market. uh, this one has transferred all measures to support mortgage programs, all mortgage preferential programs, subsidies of some kind, you can buy them in a kit from the same and you can now take it, and we saw that now at 130,130.000. there, for the purchase of a page of houses , loans taken, and already 23,000 specifically for individual housing construction , people took only mortgages, if in previous years it was 1-2%, then we see that this year it can already be 5-7% will, and in the

coming years there may be to grow. uh, uh, uh, the government recently launched in november just what you noticed is subsidizing a house kit, if you buy a kit house worth up to 3.5 million rubles. 10% is subsidized to you, and the fee for this house is set. that is, this too. i hope there will be some kind of influx there. yes , in general, i see a huge potential in this same personal construction, and we see that many developers are now. come here, this business is starting to develop. naturally. eh, there will be a lot depends from of course such an integrated development of the village. through the crt, we have now allocated land for about 12 such villages, made it in terms of reservations, allocated money for infrastructure and opened project financing in our bank. that is, we are building several such settlements, and in the irkutsk krasnoyarsk territory there are all sorts of such integrated settlements. future it seems to me, well, uh, the

measures that are being taken, i am absolutely sure. they will give their effect. uh, you follow the world championship in a football boat, as i understand it, yes of course, of course, you agree, that's how it is called in the western press. what is the most scandalous world championship in history? no, of course i don't agree. i can just tell you. it's kind of obsessive. here's an idea just that colleagues are doing well with them. believe me. i have been to many championships. mira is still 9 years old. i was a member of the executive committee. i can tell you that let them better calm down about themselves talk. it's just an attack on nothing people have done a tremendous job built stadiums opened up their country. but yes, there is. uh, some principles of their own morals are there because of their own laws. and this must be respected. let's talk about football. who played how, what is he like? uh, messi is handsome there. uh, how is that one there? about the concept here, he talks about it,

well, they politicize all the time, but they still don’t succeed. believe me. this is lyonchik thank you very much for the conversation. thank you for what is happening on the field now in the newspapers they will write only tomorrow the debriefing will be tomorrow the talk at the cooler about the match is all tomorrow, but win. you can right now on the site and in the application 1xbet play now the rest tomorrow. hello russia decade of science and technology broadcasting company tv educational project of the state corporation rosatom and people endowed with knowledge and technology homoscience present the program

science and we are a program about how science will change our lives for the next 10 years. i am vladimir antokhin. i am ekaterina shugaeva. in 10 years, the arctic will feed russia, but in a global sense, it will feed in the broadest sense, yes, in a big way, i just invited optimists who believe that in 10 years the arctic will indeed feed russia in a global broad sense, this is vasily bogoyavlensky, geophysicist , geologist, good evening. and yulia zvorykina, international economist. hello, of course, i also believe in the arctic. well, just spend it. i have a skeptic visiting today. this is valery grebenz engineer and geographer good evening sergey nikolaev economist. good evening. good evening at the end of the program our guests and optimists will make what is the probability that in 10 years the arctic will really feed russia about the history of the arctic our expert professor will tell kapustin favorite book of my childhood adolescence

is the way to the ground a book about the glorious history of russian northern navigation and about the nature of the arctic i don’t know, maybe it was because of this book that i was always drawn to the north. history of the russian north. it begins in the eleventh century, when the novgorodians sailed from the northern dvina to the yugra sphere and the karsk gates in the xii century, the pomors settled near the white sea and learned to live by the sea, and not by christian labor at the end of the xv century, they reached the svalbard archipelago by sea. he is grum and island bearish. the polar city, pustozersk, was founded in 1499. 100 years later, arkhangelsk appeared in 1601, by decree of godunov, mangazeya was founded. the northern sea route from arkhangelsk to mangazeya appeared in the middle of the 17th century.

russian cossacks reached chukotka to the pacific ocean. the era of the conquest of the north seas began. the entire arctic became ours, but in the 19th century, rival european powers appeared. those who had access to practical seas tried to force us out of the artic, failed, but i continue not to spoil us and today who will win more than 150 million rubles. big jackpot december 17, the main prize will go to only one december 25 cska the main sporting events of this year hardcore boxing clash of the strongest boxers of russia and america from the evil of us bars, joelsha green samat abdurakhmanov elvin brito a year-long expectation duel timur s lachinin against gadzhia automaton navruzov , as well as the long-awaited. vyacheslav datsik's revenge sex with the champion glory saul of the cavalry, live broadcast

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i was in murmansk in arkhangelsk yamal salekhard was in norilsk in general, there are many places beyond the arctic circle. is this the arctic? in general, even, to be honest, i don’t really know, but you were in the arctic. i don’t, but, but i brought with me someone who was definitely in the arctic. you have a guide to artik. arctic explorer i have. a real conqueror of the arctic

live and yagel is pulled out from under the snow. sergei mikhailovich well, really. look, i was in salekhard beyond the arctic circle, but is it the arctic or not? what someone says yes, someone says no, what is invested in the concept. the arctic has some scientific, but is it possible to simply mark the boundaries right on the globe, where it can actually be marked ? it's like russia perception of russia as bear or as a bear is very similar to artik. is this the second time in the artek or, more precisely, does the arctic zone of the russian federation include nine constituent entities of the russian federation in full or in part, some are included completely? well, such as the murmansk region, for example, and some are

partly included, that is, not all mustaches, sakha yakutia or kakumi, which are included in the krasnoyarsk territory, and there he is already with camels, that is, we have nine constituent entities of the russian federation there is eastern artic western artic, and, accordingly, here are these nine subjects included in whole or in part in the arctic zone, okay? this is ours, but the fact that our neighbors say that they are in the arctic for example, i do not know the scandinavian countries. they kind of enter the arctic. that's a great question, actually. we have five states near the arctic, which are directly in the arctic, this is the usa canada - this is danya, which has, as it were, greenland, the faroe islands. this is iceland and russia, respectively, and here's a plus. sorry norway plus. and there are eight states that are members of the arctic council and sweden, finland

, and here we have eight countries, well, iceland, and , accordingly, we get eight arctic ones. the one that is part of the arctic council, it is not all, they are also part of the arctic. in general , everything turns out not included in the arctic, but there are arctic territories. each country has some kind of optical advice, which includes countries that are not included in the arctic to advise countries that are included in the arctic, what is logical for them to do. the arctic council is only from those countries that enter the arctic is an interesting question, in fact. these eight countries have, in general, their borders in the entire arctic zone, if we look at the map for a view from space of the entire arctic. yes, and you will see that if there is a concept for the development of the arctic, then there is a lot of communication between the arctic states, which really want to have their own interests in the arctic zone in the arctic, and of course, china and even india and france have a development concept, which in general

e tarts are far away, but everyone has relevant development concept. there are their own arctic strategies, yulia viktorovna is good. and when the arctic was, let's say, purely russian, and how russian it is today. ah, the question of the arctic was. about russian how professor kapustin told us the historical foundations even now. uh, russian, because three-quarters of the permanently residing population in the arctic and of course, professor kapustin lives in russia, she didn’t tell us, maybe not all of our viewers. they know that the merchant baranov when mastered the arctic routes. he reached this expression for the arkhangelsk province. he came to e, in fact, alaska became the governor of alaska and russian america is so famous. i think that all a association, which was then created by the

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our life will really feed russia in the next 10 years of russia in the arctic will be told by our expert professor kapustin as soon as it comes to mastering oil immediately comes to mind in the arctic. and, of course, gas, because in our arctic there are 10% of the world 's oil reserves and 25% of gas, but not only that richly. the arctic is where these deposits are. nickel gold copper. silver. there are diamonds. there is platinum. there is uranus in general, which is not on the leni river. i just picked up a jade the size of a fist on the shore. and you also need to remember that the fifth part of all fresh water is in the arctic. the main thing that is needed now

in the arctic is roads, roads, roads. well, tunnels are bridges, settlements and cities will definitely appear near the roads. food products to the arctic are traditionally imported from the mainland, but as early as 1923, an experimental agricultural station appeared near the khibiny and today, not only potatoes and lettuces, turnip cabbage and beets are grown in open ground, cereals grow especially well. but this is understandable. after all, daylight hours last almost a day and the diet is especially rich. severyan. this fish is whitefish, nelma, omul, by the way, the nutritional elements of northern fish are much more than in the southern ordinary meat of the optical region venison contains 15 times more vitamin c than in beef. kapustin everything is so simple arctic roads bridges

tunnels. i was in salekhard. how to build a bridge there? there all the time either an icebreaker or something else something. as a result there 8 months a year the place of the bridge. it’s just that roads are being laid on the ice and traffic lights are standing right on the ice, not an icebreaker. and the ice drift, probably, yes, vasily igorevich well, really, when they talk about the arctic, the first thing that comes to mind is blocks of ice, uh, cold and that's all, and frost. oh, and berries. yes, for example, i have not yet had frost, actually cloudberries. usually yellow. well , cranberries lingonberries, found. but still okay, that's okay, i'm from the bins of the motherland, too, about shrimp and oysters, which i doubt hedgehogs. i don't know, this is cabbage for you. she will tell, then why do we need the arctic at all, what does it give us today and how economically expedient and justified is its arctic in general. well, i suspect that some of the products you show aren't exactly gambling. there,

at least the lemon is not from the artist. well, although pineapples were grown in the best of times on the nightingales, in my opinion, there were monks there who grew many other fruits and vegetables. well, if this is talking about the past, and if you have the present, then i have a personal friend in yamal, i call so the leader of the local nobility. and mikhail nikolaevich kotteta, he is a german by nationality, and in his area of ​​\u200b\u200bthis-chi are located, as he himself calls phasenta, so there he grows a lot of things this year and more, he even received a personal letter from the minister of agriculture this year . e. well, of course, permafrost, but still the layer is thawing. and if you do pro nikita, you can grow there. anything, but i'm actually not related to agriculture

after all. i am a representative oil and gas, and therefore, probably, it would be more correct for me to talk about oil and gas, especially since already, uh, it means our colleague. eh, i touched on this topic, and yet oil and gas for russia, i would say, these are the main export products. that's what it's called, so here's the export, which generates very large incomes, both in the domestic market and from exports, but we can also say that last year and this year, absolutely records were set in terms of the country's income. we have not yet summed up the results, but this is a colossal income, and billions of dollars, euros, or any other currencies, you can now speak in rubles. it seems to me that in rubles it is trills. even then it happens. here are the colossal incomes, uh, which

allow you to feel quite comfortable, despite some cataclysms that happened not so long ago. now. i probably won't touch them. here, but russia - it is strong first of all with its gigantic expanses of spaces, uh, various uh, climatic conditions from really arctic to southern hot territories, and if we talk about the arctic , our main resources and gas reserves are concentrated here. this is uniquely and huge reserves of liquid hydrocarbons. but if we talk, here is a drawing that could be shown now. you see a drawing for us, this drawing we have been maintaining and monitoring and developing annually for more than 10 years,

it shows the history of the issue, which began back in 1969 in december. russia was the first to produce hydrocarbons in the arctic, primarily gas. and here in red on this graph is shown it is production in millions of tons of oil covalent production in our russian arctic that is green. you can see by the scale of the level, it is much smaller than the red color. this is production in alaska, by the way, alaska, in fact, is also good there in a positive sense, they once inherited it. yes, but, nevertheless , for the extraction of hydrocarbons. in alaska , it is much inferior and it is almost invisible from above . small volumes of production are carried out in canada and norway, but if we talk about more than

half a century of hydrocarbon production in the arctic then we produced over 20 billion tons of oil equivalent. this is about 87, and every year this share is increasing. already there, 88 this year will be e percent of the total production in the arctic, and only somewhere now 12 with a small percentage. this is production directly in alaska in the united states. canada can not be taken into account in this regard. that is, we are absolutely leaders, both in terms of production volumes and historical, and the moment this production began. well, in terms of many other indicators, in fact, not only in terms of oil and gas, but here you can also to speak of other minerals, including such, let's say, so rare e, and for the correct ones, such as diamonds, the arctic sparkles not only with radiance, but also with diamonds, frankly speaking, but in general,

what is most important, this is a little addition to previous conversation. that's what i get asked sometimes. and especially when they start a conference on the arctic. they could you take part, i say, what do you understand gifts? well, people, as it were, stew a little. i say, well, my first question. you still have a conference on the shelf or on land, because that we have the arctic is jesus and the shelf and the water area in fact. e of the arctic ocean. if we talk about land, we are a complete leader here, i would say, after all, on the shelf, we are somewhat behind alaska in the united states, but we also implement unique projects. there, in particular , here, when broken. this is the first and only platform that is successfully mined in the arctic. hydrogens are both oil and gas oil is exported, and the northern sea route

the northern sea route well, they also have their own the northern route, let's say, but it is much smaller. it can be said that it is almost never used, but on the northern sea route it attracts everyone, this is one of the interests. why exactly the countries, including i would say the south as mentioned, france and singapore are even interested in the arctic. why because these are trade routes, and from east to west and vice versa, respectively, it attracts. well , of course, a huge utility, a fossil. they do not give rest to all countries, first of all ours, because our arctic and the land shelves, the most big and that's what we attract. i would say even annoying other countries. yes, that's right, but the arctic is the same everywhere. you know, we are permafrost experts, when we talk about the arctic in general about arab problems, we don't seem to forget that two-thirds

of russia's territory is permafrost. permafrost, sometimes these are the problems that are there for salekhard for dixon. they, uh, can be traced in neryungri and in yakutsk and in mirny and in other territories. therefore, here is such a concept as how to conduct it purely along the arctic circle and get it. here is the north of finland the north of sweden is an adrena thing. but purely when we talk about the problems associated with our northern sparsely inhabited territories. this is another thing. i disagree a little with e such a europe centrist theory of mr. kapustin professor. after all, you will agree that 6-7,000 years ago, from the region of present-day khakassia , they came and settled on taimyr ganasan. they are the autotones of the people. they lived in harmony with themselves. they provided enough food for themselves. were enough let's say so did not die, survived millennium it is difficult to accept that we

will have very great success at the present time with real technologies in the extraction of ours. uh, well, first of all, of course, condensate gases on the arctic shelf at the break, yes, but you must admit that permafrost, fate, is relevant, which is the podkara sea, which is under the east siberian sea. and when we arrange production wells through this permafrost and it goes plus 70 plus 100 ° and more from there under enormous pressure , the flow is completely different stability. wells, this is a problem that has been resolved in principle so far. yes, for some reason the temperature will thaw. after all, it takes you decades, for example, for years a stream from a high temperature and your well. she'll get a chance as you bend to break. on land, i’m a huge problem for you, both in taz and yamal, these 200-300 m within the

permafrost pass, but it passes from the well. there, at least they tamponate constantly, they pump solutions. well, cement, of course, cement-concrete cement mixture somehow they strengthen so that there is no break in these columns. here's how to decide on the shelf, as long as this problem is extremely important. and it’s also difficult for me to agree with the respected vasily igorevich regarding the flourishing of agricultural aquaculture, agricultural crops, er, in the arctic zones. yes, where there is no permafrost, it is possible, but we regularly measure half a meter of 1 m 20, including on enamel in different sections of the programs. still, this is not enough plants for our country plus. sorry, not a short summer. and then the greenhouse needs to be heated. i'm not very sure in that agricultural production. not based on traditional and based on some traditional things, it somehow can thrive on berries

to pay attention. igorevich parry elementary elementary means the same colleague. mikhail nikolaevich akateta, he is a very advanced person who even knows foreign languages ​​and owns various equipment. he has sun. yes, but it's still the future of us, but many more tomatoes are wonderful tomatoes. well, firstly, i was once surprised, being in salekhard on the market i saw a beautiful potatoes. well, in general, a fist. i asked him where did you get potatoes from? yes, this is ours, we grow here ourselves. it's really. so. well , probably, that’s not really in greenhouses and penetrations . that is, in the salekhard region, at least, this is grown. this is the first one. and if we talk about greenhouses, the same mikhail nikolaevich cottet has a whole wall of solar

panels, that is, he also has heaters there, when he needs to, he turns it on, he has light, he has the internet. this is another arctic, this is modern digital. it can be said that it is electrified . if we say we have some enough piece goods, if there are some dachas near norilsk. for example, there was a huge experience during the gulag period, they created women's brigades. in the same vorkuta, in the same cut, the fields were cultivated, and there are photographs of some heads of cabbage, there are some carrots, some short summer, but the polar day. and now you know that in the place of these fields through the well, and the laying has not yet ended , the thermokarst loosening gave warmth to seasonally talos well, it went to the frozen ground, then there's just a territory, i'm sorry, the eaten thermocar. seven permafrost under the ice vorkuta to me and the formation, of course, is happening and the

lake is happening for we are losing our land with you. we are losing light on the formation and there is a sad experience of the soviet union there was such a professor tymer had heard of him. he offered it at the beginning of the magadania. this was done under the vorkuta. here are these huge thermocars, lakes about two kilometers away. here they are really big, of course, small. he proposed to lower them artificially. drain and indeed these silts began to be known. pravda wrote about this on tv, it was shown that grass began to grow, and then they could be mowed in those cowsheds that were built there and were working, where animals were fed in norilsk in magadan, but it turned out that after three five years, uneven freezing, cookies these efforts and costs are unsuitable, that is, to

say that i will not take in the murmansk region, where there is permafrost, that we we will be able to establish modern industrial, and agricultural production. i think this is an overly optimistic again. we have sadness. as you know, for 3-4 years it has been forbidden since this year in the yenisei the price is forbidden, and that is, fish, that is, it is losing weight and see what else is interesting. here we have one. climate warming will be slightly increased by a layer of seasonal thawing, here it was, for example, a meter of a meter for 20 decades it rained for centuries, all sorts of salts were washed away by fine earth, and now the season grows from that layer and begins to wash new salts new fine earth and these rivers, where haris sichir muksun, omul. e, valek, where they didn't have fun before. for them, this environment is not

very good and very comfortable, plus man-made pollution, less grayling. look. in general, the arctic is cold, a discussion. it is hot over here. let's take a break ntv advertising doubt what to bet on? choose any sporting event in the betting app and fly in an hour. watch other players move bets to win on the air program on how to science will change our lives in the next 10 years professor kapustin it took thousands of years to conquer the russian arctic, we reached the pacific ocean, founded the first polar stations, built a

nuclear icebreaker and reached the pole were the first to produce gas on the shelf, the optical zone includes such cities as arkhangelsk, murmansk, vorkuta and dudinka pevek and khatanga. well, there are more than a hundred settlements in all, but the terrible thing is that the population of artik has been falling for 20 years, the number of residents of arkhangelsk has decreased by 3%. and on adrian a quarter of murmansk is almost a third of the burnout , the population has become two times less, and in dikson, for example, there are 10 times fewer people compared to soviet times. no work. no, people don't constantly work too badly. well, perhaps a geologist is suitable, but solving this problem is not at all difficult. here. when i was graduating from the institute, everyone was distributed among cities and villages, someone returned after 3 years, someone stayed forever. so we

urgently need to return to the soviet practice of free study at a university plus 3 years of work for distribution. kapustin is very fond of taking everything that is good from the soviet union. in principle, it is correct. why would you want to give up something good? i'm really not sure that now students from moscow, these races, will go to the arctic . if properly motivated, that is, it seems just oh great. now we will dig up new cities there. we are with you, and people are just where to get, we will even take the money, we will sell offshore gas and no. well, who used to be from somewhere, people appeared, where they sat at two times. more. our population was twice as large. let's quickly give birth and figure it out. here is sergei mikhailovich. what technologies, in addition to children, in russia need to be developed in order for the arctic to finally become accessible to everyone. well, you know, if you'll allow me a little, my colleagues will also join in on several aspects. well, the first aspect, uh,

i read a study by american scientists, and they say that the artik will actually feed us, but it will not feed us in terms of food. namely, that even on the shelf uh on the shelf here uh on the shelf arctic arctic shelf. eh, now focused. i'm vasily igorevich. here, as it were, confirmation. i just don’t know to what extent he agrees with this statement, but today , if we take hydrocarbons, just liquid hydrocarbons, which are estimated there by americans, then this is for 145 years. it's enough if the trend of the whole world is that of us, well, consumption it will correspond to what is for 145 years. this is the first. secondly, there are certain risks, uh, associated with water, that is, global warming, about which we valery ivanovich told yes in this topic, and he just says that uh, that, that we have only 3% of the world ocean with clean water 2.5 are glaciers, just artiks and only 0.5 is percent. that

's all that the rest is what yes, the question is, if there will be global warming, if the glaciers will melt. that is a question for this clean water that is not desalinated and not clean from the point of view of dead water purified, namely, stand, pure natural water, which in fairy tales we called the living, and not the dead, which we have already cleansed this the next aspect plus, probably, when we talk about climate and climate, in general, there are many risks that scientists are talking about now. and it's not just scientists who are related there to the greens, to some organizations there, to greenpeace or the world wildlife fund. uh, here the wildlife conservation question is different, what, how much? we have risks associated with the fact that there will be glaciers of the same artic, this, well, there are pluses and this was said by colleagues of this northern sea route, which can be laid this new

the trade route, which will be faster through the north , actually goes. i saw. for example, in salekhard there is a beautiful sign, if you go through the south, well, as standard, is that right? they go here through e through turkey, there egypt through the canals, for example, it takes 26 days there, and through the arctic, in my opinion, 17 . us somewhere. listen only to the wiring. here for this posting for this pilot posting. uh, now the americans - it is with the americans there is a big, as it were, big friction, just with the americans and with the canadians, because they are also norwegians. they believe that the americans first of all believe that this northern sea route should be free for all sailors. we have freedom. well, there is a very fine line. there are 200 miles from your economic zone, and then you have to, well, 200 miles from the shelf, but the shelf is also something

to look at. what border will you do it and now a lot of aspects this is related to lomonosov script lomonosov and so on, because the question still needs to be proven. that is what we are going, wait a minute. let her go as they want them to have atomic icebreakers. no, let them get stuck there. we won't go back to technology for many. yes, let's shame you and i, i'll show you some technologies. if you'll excuse me, i 'll show you the northern sea route they claimed, well, in general, they were rude. he is married. i just heard for the first time that in general someone, besides us , claims to be him, but you doubt this rudeness, what put. choose any sporting event in the betting league application and flies in now. watch live broadcasts. consult other players. there are stakes to move in order to win, let's start from the position, after all, from the position when we are talking about aspects related to the e-development strategy,

which until 2035, in which your obedient servant also took part. there you know the concept. at 87, she changed. what is the strategy for the development of the arctic if in 1908 we remember mikhail sergeevich, now deceased, it means the kingdom of heaven mikhail sergeevich gorbacheva, who spoke the first goals for the development of art, is a monkey. the strategy for 2035 has changed, as we have written the strategy for the development of the arctic in 2035, and it says national security, of course, that is, today we are talking about slightly different aspects and other development. in what aspect today has already been said. what aspects do we need to need to develop. now, it's not surprising, but i'll tell you a few things. you can continue them and look at the aspects, connected. e, with the development of art. there are quite a lot of them that can be named, in addition to the fact that

security and some aspects are associated with technologies in the field of extraction, of course, new resources need to be developed by renewable energy sources. use the energy of money, of course, why not, if it is whole, although today any person comes a person who is now in the art, everyone will say it is not so, although we do not need a large potential. we are better. set up a nuclear power plant. here absolutely right, the question lies elsewhere. what to do with the debris that vascete forms? now take a city like tiksi next to a garbage haul the same as tiksi. i’m citing as an example that today we have deliveries here, uh, well, as if northern deliveries, we should talk about exports northern output. that's the plus side to it,

i can name a few. here, there are 8-9 10 elements there to say green icons or blue icons, because this is still a coastal area, so that would be enough interested in water issues. it is necessary to decide how it is no wonder but the issues with garbage must be resolved. need questions asked by energy sources. he had issues with tourism in the arctic, which is also interesting. there are a lot of infrastructure projects, including in the arctic somehow. no wonder there are new infrastructure elements such as innovations in the field of food storage, which they say are stored there. better there. it can be said that it is generally innovative now . aspect in artik. in my opinion. everything that could be applied today for all regions of russia, you can start with artik. test it there, and if you can test it and do it there, then it means that it is suddenly in another region. it is possible, everywhere it is such an aspect that will be very important, because today we are talking if we find the technology

that exists today. that's how the company's transition would be to the best available technology. listen, innovative technologies that will reduce waste reduce emissions reduce discharges. and this applies to a company that operates in the artic. i assure you in other regions. she will work. and most importantly, aspect i would like to say the following about optics. we are talking about the system being used in the arctic, which we are working on as a director, just a center that studies the economic problems of the development of the arctic. this is a problem. how to link the economy ecology, uh, absolutely danger, stop, gynecology, and also the social aspect if between these three elements, where can i find indicators between them? where to find that balance between the three combined here are the three groups factors where social economics and ecology should be all combined in the arctic. wait

. the arctic is a strategic uh strategic zone. you can score on the economy there is not about money. there, most likely, here is about the social sphere to settle there and more about ecology, maybe i agree with you, and from there a very fashionable trend appeared, which is now called and heard this, when we from g just don’t have an economy there. well here and now and live the transformation, it is based out of the company's 3g transformation and lies the transformation city ​​regions. the country as a whole, on what it is based on the ecology of the arguments, made nassalki, and that on the effective management of gavanovich, after all, security and vasily will help without the economy. impossible to move him. according to a colleague. that is, i think that there is no economy, it will be like rice, like that, the basis on which the rest of all these settings are developed. otherwise

it will all be ephemeral. it will be all suspended in the air and the last moment of alignment. that's why you need thirty-fifth whether it will be the year, either this will be the fiftieth year, we need to understand where we are going in artic, why and with whom, and plus one more small triangle, which i would like, as the reverse side of this. power, business and society and people, and a combination of this one, like two triates and see where we are going in the arctic, why are we going and with whom are we going with people with people who would like to know where we are going. why do they need what and ecology, which is standard environmentally friendly, is primarily aimed at large companies that work there, and the economy, sorry. we are in such country, which is responsible for the state. thank you who are we where are we from where are we going these questions are eternal,

dear guests, optimists from skeptics. i have all the questions for you. what is the probability in your opinion? this delicious yummy i have, artika, will still feed you, beautifully valeria ivanovich, do you have a forecast. ah, according to my assessment, artika is capable. let not the next decade, but due to rational extraction and, uh, processing. what is hidden here due to some really ecologically competent approach geophysiological monitoring of other problems the arctic really can be here the backbone of russia, that is, the region that will , in general, keep russia in my opinion, although supposedly a skeptic. well, i think, but do not be offended here, this is not in the next action, maybe not 100%, but less than 90. 2

dozen or tactics will really become that's what he once said, the late gaidar is superfluous regions. it is necessary to remove them, and there will be exactly the things on which ours will rest. well, fortunately , pride is pride, well, if for 20 years 100% for 10-50. well, perhaps 30 for 10,000. %. thank you so much. well, the first thing i want to say is that after all, man is not the only bread and light. this must be understood and of course, there is no question. so we'll grow wheat or something else in the arctic, bring it to moscow. i think that, after all, and how much the local population could help plant. now if we talk about, let's say, more serious things, then it can be argued that the

arctic has already fed the country with more than energy. well, i also want to say something about. today there was a discussion about the fact that the arctic was almost ruined there, varya ivanovich said that the wells are thawing and so on modern technologies are being applied. here you can cite the most our new advanced fields are like the south tameyskoye field, the yamal lng project. deposit, the mass-stabilizers and the problem. here is the de-splintering, as such, which would be spoken of in these new objects. it practically doesn't exist. it is surmountable at the expense of science in this regard. you can say science and we will solve these standing problems, that is, 100%. yes, already fed , already fed. i say that it is not necessary to wait 100% for us from there. thank you so much. i will have

a forecast, probably, something arithmetic average between the forecast of valery ivanovich and vasilyevich well , this is between 100% and 30, somewhere in my area somewhere 65. yes, then six 65 dash 70%. i can justify my kind of uh my answer. i absolutely agree with vasily igorevich that we, uh, have new technologies that are being applied, but the same is brought in, if we talk about environmental aspects. they are very good there. everything is done from the point of view of the fact that the sexual nuclear power plant, which is installed here, is a photograph. this is a unique setup. yes, why not 100. why exactly 65 here is a question that has already been raised today with environmental risks since there are two climate risks, because today we have not touched on many aspects. and these are methanes, emissions, in my opinion, this is just vasilyevich very close to you, theme and