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we will go the other way. i like the path we are on, how moscow will respond to the new scarecrows from nato, maybe consider taking on board our american partners at work. why the united states is afraid of an open clash with russia, this will develop into a big war between nato and russia, and how america, in a fit of perverted love for ukraine, is losing its status as a world hegemon. about this today in our program. hello, this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. uh, i'm andrey norkin moy colleague ivan petrushkin we are working live last weekend ukrainian militants once again already. it’s hard to say, in general, how much it
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can be calculated, they tried to shell our, er, territories, and they tried and managed to do it, for example, if here is the attack on the crimea using drones. it was repulsed by our air defense forces, then here is a blow to e melitopol. he, unfortunately, did not do without victims, about half an hour. as you know, this is actually the capital of the zaporozhye region, and there will be shelling, but the hotel came under shelling. hmm, there are dead and there are injured, at the same time , uh, everything, it says that, uh, in the near future , a reduction in the number. these strikes or attempts at strikes against our territory from the ukrainian side are not expected, that is, there will be more and more of these strikes, and moreover, according to the western press, such new interesting publications have appeared there. and it is possible that the united states and their western partners will still provide ukraine with more powerful weapons. in
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order to strike not only at those areas that are in close proximity between the border to the border of the two state in our deep rear. so i propose to immediately start with the publication of the times there in this story there are some more links and quotes. well , that's it, the british times, at the end of the week it reported this news that the americans give the go-ahead to shelling the russian rear. at the end of last week, the british newspaper times stood out. the united states no longer insists that the ukrainian army should not strike at russian territory. this newspaper was told about informed sources in the pentagon. we are not telling kiev not to strike the russian way, we are only insisting that the ukrainian military follow the international law of war and abide by women's conventions. this is the only restriction, but it implies that russian families and liquidation attempts should not become targets. specific
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persons. it also should not be, as the publication notes, due to the new approach, washington probably. will begin to supply kiev with more weapons and ranges. the european allies also dramatically changed the tone of their statements last friday, the german authorities openly recognized the right of ukraine to strike at the territory of russia ukraine is not obliged to be limited to its own territory. foreign russian aggression, from our point of view, ukraine is exercising its right to self-defense, enshrined in article 51 of the un charter, while the main veterans of the war, the united states, convince everyone that the kiev regime chooses military goals on its own and washington is not involved in this. we are definitely not pushing ukraine and we are not facilitating ukrainian operations inside russia us assistance is aimed primarily at protecting ukraine from its territories. at the same time, military aid from the united states continues to come in. last week
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, another $275 million package was announced, and the new pentagon budget approved by the lower house of congress for aid to ukraine includes $800 million, and like, i like the path we are following while we we help ukraine with the weapons it needs and economic support. she will fight to the last person. american congressmen. now they are putting pressure on the pentagon, demanding that it increase the supply of more powerful lethal weapons from strategic stocks, as the military writes in orienpolis, while they are resisting fearing that the us arsenals will become empty and in the event of a hypothetical war between nato and russia, the americans. there will simply be nothing to fight the war with. ukraine is terrible. it will also turn into a full-scale war, which will escalate into a war between nato and russia. we work every day to avoid this. that's interesting, it would be still, of course, to understand how much
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change is taking place, because if we talk about the statements of the representative of the american side, there are no special changes there. here is the senator of the state russian museum, as he spoke about the last ukrainian now, and he speaks there to the last person. that is, nothing has changed for him, mr. kiribe, as i said there, not me, the cow is not mine, we do nothing, we just help ukraine defend itself, and he says, it seems like the same thing. well, along with the times well, not the latest newspaper. oh, it probably won't. just to report that the americans are lifting these restrictions of theirs, what is changing or in fact nothing is changing. and it's just, well, they want to show us something. as usual, i see two reasons that are most likely both correct reasons. the first many times. we have said here that the ukrainians are going against the position of the administration and biden on a number of issues, we have said it many times, i will not repeat the examples. and if you can't prevent something, tell me what is it? you can do a little did not understand. wait
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well, who can’t prevent what the americans ca n’t prevent the disobedience of the ukrainian country, which feels its own impunity a lot, and therefore then gave up on everything. wait provide new weaponry. they provided it and so, as if before this permission, he had been there for a long time. sorry in person this way. they take responsibility and share that responsibility. if you, if they didn't mind, then they approved of you, if they didn't mind, and if they didn't against, and the ukrainians do what the americans allow them, the americans lose face. why is it necessary? causes? this is the first, then you will say it, the second reason will tell us, yes, please, it was lacking much, probably more. well, you will like it, and the americans understand that the russian side. well, because the americans understand that the russian side has chosen a very correct strategy, and vanya is called to like the special operation, because the strategy is something
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we cannot do with the operation. uh, let's do a freewheel in bulk, and russia has chosen a war of attrition, uh, a strategy, and within the framework of this war of attrition, uh, the key value and key value for the victory is not only your rear, but also the determination of the population to wage this fight to the victorious end of the population and the elites if ukraine has this decision is based on the determination of the red population, including on the understanding that ukraine has a very limited opportunity, that residents of e cities, being in the outback of russia, are safe. and now, in general, ukraine well got the opportunity to say that everything looks completely different. well, the americans feel that russia is not capable, but somehow solve these problems with the shelling of russian territory with attacks. we, probably, can solve these problems and
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again we repeat and for some reason we don’t want it, we can’t have any. and what kind of decision is there no such decision of nodars in decision-making centers, they applied, it seems they were already applied and did not lead, that and that is, well, for several weeks now, more than a month, a massive emphasis has been applied. no, energy infrastructure decision-making we will be fair strikes on the sbu on the building, the general staff and so on. does anyone really think that the ukrainians will then stop using the same drones and other methods. attacks on russia on russian facilities. of course, they will continue to do so the americans. they say, wait a second, i don’t remember now, who explained to us last week that the ukrainians can, er, make changes. there, the second types of weapons. in the same drones and swifts and do it at a factory in kharkov, that is i don’t remember, someone tells us, well, please, please make sure that this plant in kharkov ceases. to function and it would be impossible to
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modify these weapons, you know, we can all do it. for some reason, we just don’t want it anymore, that we can stop deliveries of weapons to ukraine, but it’s obvious that russia is not capable, unfortunately, it is not capable of stopping the lend list. there are no huge deliveries to ukraine, but in general no, see no, well, they already seem to be, as it is called in recent months. not so much has changed now british writes about a fundamental moment, allegedly given the go-ahead to strike deep into russian territory. this is leo for us to stop doing what we are doing now. perhaps we are doing something, perhaps not as effectively as andrei vladimirovich or british bluff here and there some pancake american. i don't know victor who can explain all this to me just a couple of weeks ago. uh, nikolai patrushev went to a meeting on the organization of civil defense in the central federal district. this is no accident. is not the russians consider these statements of the british american. the ukrainian authorities are not considered by the russian authorities, they are
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considered as a bluff, as a warning and as a danger, and the authorities are preparing for this that they are now digging trenches in the border areas in the same belgorod region and others. this suggests that the russian authorities consider the threats from the afu from the ukrainian authorities, the british and the americans not as a bluff a as a real threat to the russian federation, but what is it for? is being done? what is the strategic plan for? what is it for? it is clear that at some point, at some point, well, like any military conflict, it will end and the americans and the british have one. uh, the goals on the conditions on which it will end for russia are completely different, therefore, with these actions and these threats, the american side of the british ukrainian is trying to realize these ones to move us towards their goals that are more beneficial for them and less beneficial for us, what will it be for? ? and what time will it be growing. aleksandrovich, what are they trying to tell us with these threats and where to move, if
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they really try? well, uh, first of all, i will allow myself to doubt the information even though it won't sweep the paper. uh, the newspapers of the times, because when we talked for several months about uh long-range uh, missiles, we were talking about very specific missiles. and so ms yeah, uh, there are no signs that the americans are going to put these missiles on ukraine well, those who are absent today for fedorov would tell you, that everyone has already met there. yes, in his right to shoot, his right to say whatever he sees fit. uh, in these publications, among other things, by the way, uh, talking about ukrainians and anglo-sections. they also demonstrate themselves. uh, including their red lines for us. that is. here you go. two statements, one of them is the overflowing of everything into a
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big war, what he said, what he likes. and this is a naive source, when an anonymous source is published in the top media, this is already a demonstration, it’s definitely this. and it’s also like a signal to us that here they perceive it as different lines. and that is, we can’t do something like that with the zelensky type of us brick, they tell the ukrainians that they should not do this in russia, but for us, respectively , it’s a mirror image that mm in this direction. and here you can everything let's add. who is taking who? yes , that's right, and in the engine on friday there was a press conference by vladimir putin where, among other things, he was asked that they talked about the nuclear threat of the forced project that week, yes, and after that, after vladimir putin answered the question there input knowledge, they came out with such direct
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headings that russia is supposedly changing and is already changing its nuclear doctrine. in general, putin threatens the west with a preventive nuclear strike. let's do that. we will now listen to this piece, and you are barely vanilla here is the logic that was relatively in the previous program. why are these words spoken and why are these questions asked? we then wait, we listened to aladdin well, then we came to the conclusion that yes, apparently, indeed, the guys listened to us, understood something for themselves and have become more conspiracy can not be understood, because the president has to do something now turns out all this development. about the united states, there is a preemptive strike theory. first second they are developing a system, a disarming strike. what it is? this is a shock strike in modern high-tech means. hmm, which, according to control points, should be applied to deprive the enemy of these control systems, and so
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on. it was also supposed to deliver this preventive strike on a disarming strike using hypersonic systems, but so far there are no hypersonic systems in the states, but we have. therefore, if you are already talking about this disarming strike, then you might think about how to adopt it at work with our american partners and their ideas to ensure their security. so do i understand correctly that the previous warning was not heard or somehow reacted differently to them, as we expect. and this is another warning, or am i here at all incorrectly interpreted the whole story there with the exchange as if here's something else that's what we we were finishing last week, because it turns out that now the president, as if on a new one, is forced to do everything again. the previous warnings were correctly understood and some conclusions were drawn from these warnings. they launched drones to bomb the fish. but this does not mean at all that silence and
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tranquility will now come on the fronts, the energy of hostilities has not yet died down. it is now very well felt in the west, the current situation on the front is not perceived as the defeat of ukraine as it is the energy of hostilities not exhausted yet. here is the impression that, as it were , fighting. they continue on their own, that is, there is some kind of decision and command, but military operations. still continue to them. it hasn't gotten there yet. no matter how strange, serious negotiations begin when one of the parties most often, as one of the parties , perceives the situation as a defeat. ukraine now and those who stand behind it do not perceive this situation as a defeat. therefore, to begin. serious negotiations need to change the situation on the fronts on the other side, there is an illusion that this situation can be changed in a different direction , not in the same way, so uh, they also
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suspect that russia is the same as it is. eh, the desire to go on conquering. uh, new territories to liberate them and go to odessa these suspicions. there are also there, and therefore, a negotiation structure is being built in parallel, which, as we said last time, it is very, very fragile, a certain way out is indicated. but at the same time. there is an understanding. for everyone, that the situation on the fronts does not allow the implementation of these negotiation mechanisms, therefore, these negotiating mechanisms, if they do not collapse, they will remain, they will be used at the right time, but escalation at the fronts in my opinion, it is inevitable and now all these statements are such a very dangerous ping-pong. we tell them about nuclear weapons. recall very even delicately western mixing
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instantly strongly distorted the words. it spread all over the world. i watched with horror how , uh, it was distorted, but in response, these hints come that weapons can be supplied, with the help of which they will carry strike on russian territory. and this is where the fuss continues. i take all these statements quite seriously and believe that the british and americans, of course, are disingenuous. the point here is not only that the ukrainians and zelensky do not obey them, but they are such playful guys who do not obey the baydan. baida, despite his age and numerous mistakes and dementia, he is cunning. from the very beginning, he perceived this situation as a possible trap for russia and continues to proceed from this then it will be a fuss continue. in the end, it's a fuss. let's take viktorovich and try. it should lead
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the world to subside or, vice versa, to an absolute escalation, because it is in your version that this is the only way to increase the incitement. yes? let's, here, i'll just be now as captain evidence, but i have to repeat the original thesis. we'll make you agree to our terms. this thesis is relevant for both the russian federation and the west , which insists on the same thing, and then, uh , following this thesis is simply inevitable progressive escalation. here it is simply obvious, like an offensive. on the morning of the onset of spring or something else, there are simply no alternatives, and someone is the first you are ready to sit down at the negotiating table in order to go to some kind of compromise conditions, the parties believe that they have all the possibilities. in order to achieve what you want, that is, i will force you to agree to our conditions and what we are seeing is the same progressive escalation. oh, you're bombing our infrastructure. ok, we'll put some trinkets that will allow swifts to fly
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deep into the territory of the russian federation by the way, you are criticizing mr. fedorov a. more than a month ago, sitting in this studio, he spoke about drones with a shoulder of 1,000 km, which have already arrived in ukraine or which ukraine is about to acquire. and here it seems that while we are talking about a ukrainian citizen, the japanese put the stuffing for the swift so that it does not fly towards western europe, but so that it flies towards the russian federation because there were precedents, as we know, and what is next will be. the main thing was flying so that he was not seen. this is the most merry hit on the decision-making center. okay, now we are still there, these swifts will launch somewhere not to the side, saratov . well, okay. and if, like you, you say it ’s easy to do this on an escalation. now elena vladimirovna was saying that the western media distorted it there, and putin’s speech was presented in a wrong way. aleksandrovich began to grumble. and what exactly was the distortion? we really clearly heard the chapters, how do you perceive it this is, uh, ours. that is, in short, these
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words of putin, we are again taking the first step in order to raise the degree a little, or, nevertheless, we have taken a reciprocal step. well, not us, first or warn someone steps are being taken. that is, it is not possible at all. this is the chicken or the egg, here are the categories back two western position in this situation, the western position will be two things. this is their inherent for years so, uh, culture of dialogue. they always believe that in any case, a dialogue is possible and the second. and is this correct or not? and inside, and western culture inside a western city is right. yeah, it doesn't work outside. and that's why i say, because we are, and that's why i understood it, there is nothing
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that does not exist. e in russia as at least for leadership, as the concept of unacceptable losses. here there are no concepts of exhaustion, there is no concept at all, any unacceptable losses are acceptable, any losses are acceptable for solving the problem. this is actually proved by the whole of russian history, including military history, i would agree with you if our special operation, uh, would have ended somewhere on uh march 10, but it seems to me that because it has been going on for so long. we are just not ready to go to rejection. yes, if someone doesn’t do something in a war, it’s not because they don’t want to, but because they can’t. what if we are talking about the war, and not about the spices of the operation, which we are furnished with a bunch of some restrictions. i understand that you can talk as much as you like about limiting the war. we are now leading the
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spices, but nonetheless. uh, quite often they talk not only about the war with ukraine, but also about the war with everything for this i agree. so, uh, what is the vulnerability of the current russian position for russia , i will always not go into it, including the situation at the front, especially since they are unknown to me, but for russia, an opposition war always looks almost hopeless. that's how hopeless the war on this front is for germany. so for russia, a hopelessly opposition war. this means that either russia will be forced to take some completely desperate step in the style of brusilov's breakthrough. i won't guess now if this will lead to something or not, but here are the frozen ones flooded there with oats with all their affairs. but under shells, this
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is absolutely deadly; this leads to the collapse of the frontaran, or later on. and now we can hand over a piece from the washington post. it's just that they also published a publication. they are thinking there. oh , what topic. eh, what, actually. here, a change can lead to agreements, yes, and uh, in general, comes to the conclusion that this is the only reason for such a single fact - this is , uh, determining the status of crimea, moreover, as that is crimea remains russian the international community. it recognizes all this and it will allegedly satisfy moscow, which means that putin’s ambitions will be there, as it were . it turns out a vicious circle, the war can be stopped only if you decide after the status of the crimea, but this is impossible to do, because ukraine will not be with this. i agree a small piece. give us, please. west supporting ukraine fears that any
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ukrainian military intervention in crimea could provoke putin into decisive action, up to and including the use of a nuclear bomb. some western officials hope that an agreement to hand over crimea to russia could be the basis for a diplomatic end to the war. ukrainians dismiss the idea as dangerously naive. the unwavering claim to crimea illustrates the insolubility of the conflict, and it is hard to imagine that the struggle for the peninsula will be resolved without further bloodshed. or then all. this will eventually turn into an endless arabs, israeli conflict alexander blah blah blah. why because a nuclear bomb? well , i beg you said that no look. i, first of all, uh, i just sorry didn't finish. e. ivan remembered bishkek yes, i would like to take this
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opportunity to thank vladimir vladimirovich for resolving our little dispute with you andrey on thursday about the interpretation of his phrase. remember that a lengthy process - quite right. he clearly. so he listened to the program. here i am in this convinced and said, so the guys did not understand. i will say again that we are talking about the result of norkina. kazakov that it's good that he never talks about military operations and about the timing of the special effect, but he talks about the results and their duration. truth. thank you vladimir vladimirovich a. as far as vladimirovich was concerned, they were such fools as andrei vladimirovich and i are looking at the meeting place. this is understandable, as regards the statements of vladimir vladimirovich, which they also just tried to interpret, firstly. hmm a threat is a threat from putin to
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adopt the doctrines of our adversaries. she is not the only one, but they act quite pointwise, like a threat. for the simple reason that the 24th sensor is february 20th of this year. we will officially say this, most likely after the end of the special military operation. well, vladimir vladimirovich putin took advantage of the so-called bush jr. doctrine. e yes, which is defined by words, there is a preemptive self-defense. you watch the speech of the 24th, three paragraphs are devoted to this, and then you can watch bush's speech before the invasion of iraq is generally one to one. that is, vladimir vladimirovich copied the american doctrine, he speaks on the sofa, and therefore exactly the same thing is heard here. you have the concept of a preemptive strike. we need to think of interesting ideas. and if we, god forbid, for the americans, make changes to our
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doctrine, because we are talking about this doctrine , the whole world already knows by heart the answer to our showcase, vladimir vladimirovich. what a fine fellow, as he explained? why do we remember there is already there that the hand is tired of putting crosses in your merits. how many times have you said that vladimir wait, please, alexandrovich means you have me a little. eh, give up, it's a little frustrating for me. uh, vladimir vladimirovich copied after a small bush. there is something to say about it. if so, if we really copy something there ah. you just said now. good good. let's take something. why do n't we take something else in service, because we are not likened. we can't do everything. this is why that means it turns into what, uh, what alexander nikolayevich was talking about just now. sit in the trenches. these are just different things, a method of waging war or
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justifying their actions. are they slightly different things or not? explain to me, please, we are conducting a special military operation. so. here's how to proceed. that's all the war on for this, first it is not necessary to declare further. see. here is andrey vladimirovich the operation of a dark claw, a clear eye, andrey vladimirovich's decisive decision , look. here is literally a minute in our you work. there is one basic fundamental contradiction in what we actually do every day, and it is objectively not the result of our mistakes or some interpretations. in ukraine, we officially doctrinally conduct a special military operation, and our state propaganda in the best sense of the word, and together with it we tell people about
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total war, we call on people to mobilize. mobilization of industry mobilization of the people of the population to cancel the new year, we behave in public space, as if we have a total war, like the great patriotic war, but we do not have a total war. we have a special military operation. although there is a war here, when it starts in public space, because, well, mobilize with russia and perceive what is happening as something more than a special military operation. you were the first to tell us back in the spring that society had not yet switched to society. perhaps in vain society. yes try it somehow. well, here i am showing you just when they said, everyone fell silent and began to listen to you, so this is the story with the picture here is the scenario that alexander nikolayevich explained that this is the western idea that negotiations are right, which means that they do not
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work here. the story with this status of crimea as its, supposedly, some kind of, uh, way to stop hostilities. here's what's likely to work. what do you think, well, this is fortune-telling on the coffee grounds? i 'm sure that both processes will go on in parallel, that is, uh, contacts will continue in full, perhaps a new exchange. but as we said, then it absolutely does not mean. uh, reducing tensions at the fronts, when you talk about the exchange now, it’s just a prisoner, some kind of prisoners there, or that. and forgive, lord, the exchange of territories. about what exactly? again, mr. fedorov told us that this is the proposal that is coming. that's still some kind of exchange for these new ones. we take territories, we go on like that, right? well, there’s not even so many of them as there are almost poles there, or someone else there, until the situation on the fronts changes, talk about
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territory exchanges remain empty talk. these conversations. it is possible to conduct only from a position of strength , and in order to ensure this strength, escalation is inevitable. yes, loot, but i must say, i radically disagree, uh, with what alexander nikolayevich said about the western culture of dialogue. tell us about how you let down the dialogue dotted with or with gaddafi's memoir and why the west does not even have any relationship with the united states of the united states of america, because they had a dialogue with bashar al- assad in this way. they said the siege must go. and the garden must leave. and the garden must go. it said everything in it, their whole position, therefore, of course, the series turned to russia, iran, the result was not the one that suited the united states. and now the united states was left without relations with damascus as a whole, controlling 60 percent. a year ago, we offered to stay, in fact, to
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agree. we were the initiators of the dialogue, what we called the ultimatum. this would not have been an ultimatum putin this was a proposal to talk about security to us, what did they say? can you put your paper in there? where did you bring correct question is a much closer example would be 1 year 17 december. this ultimatum was put forward, but we don’t name it our real goals, the real goals of everything is to force western, so -called partners, you can already openly speak as an adversary to negotiate serious negotiations with russia, this is the goal of a special military operation. many other purposes are possible. it was stated there, but in fact this is the real goal , which is why it began after it was not accepted by the west. not even the conditions of these, this is an ultimatum, because the terms can and are being negotiated. in principle, it was obvious from their responses to the reaction of nato and the reaction of the united states to these conditions that they are not even ready for a serious dialogue. russia is trying to use an official military operation to force the west to make at least
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some concessions in this negotiation process. . and, of course, i’m doing very well, because the situation at the front, probably, this corresponds to the situation on the ground, a different situation at the front, if the russian army, let’s say, again, it was directly more success at the front. here in these 9 months, then the position. the west would have been different, this is the key point, only briefly and one already needs to be stopped, please, very briefly, which means, firstly, if you comment on the article, in general, the post, of course, this is nonsense, we could already talk about the award until september we are already talking about new russian territories included under the constitution into the russian federation. and secondly, excuse me, but the goal, maybe at the beginning, was to force the smell into negotiations. and now the same. well, many obviously, it seems to me, those who read at least a little think, and it is not even necessary to speak german in order to listen. merkel what, but it makes no sense uh to forget that there is no longer any sense e.
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about something now negotiate with the west in the current conditions. now the goal of ours is what they are talking about, our officials are directly dismantling this, the existing systems, in order to negotiate old conditions on a new basis. okay let's stop. now then let's look at examples of how how to culture dialogue. yes, well, this true, not the western culture of dialogues, but right now there is no smell at all of the culture of those who know how to negotiate in a couple of minutes.
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flew to the middle east for 3 days, there he was met royally in every sense. well, they fly away. he 's from there with a big deal package that, of course, washington cannot but be concerned. four saudi air force fighter jets meet chinese air force one and this is only a small part of the maximum solemn and warm welcome given to xi, jinping in saudi arabia over the course of 3 days, the chinese president held dozens of meetings with members of the royal family and businessmen from all over the middle east of saudi arabia itself the chinese have signed a comprehensive strategic partnership agreement, as well as contracts worth $30 billion, mr. chairman. i sincerely believed that your visit will contribute to the deepening of the comprehensive strategic partnership between our countries, as well as help
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in protecting the common interests of the peoples of our countries, we are full of optimism regarding middle eastern oil. it is the chinese that the key point here is not even the volume of supplies, but departure from the dollar when paying for them china will work on buying oil and gas in yuan to establish its currency at the international level and weaken the influence of the dollar on world trade tak elena the western press writes that this whole three-day period is the formalization of the divorce of saudi arabia by the united states, its complete and final turn in other directions, including ours in china, and so on, that this is all the end of the partnership, is it or not? america is sounding the alarm about what is happening about saudi arabia, and there was a fairly detailed article about this by one well-known american political scientist aaron miller in the foreign pole, and there he says that america is losing saudi arabia.
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arabia, but here, uh, i know this political scientist. i met him at international conferences and i understand that the internally difficult internal political alignment of the united states of america itself still plays a role. because some are still hitting the democrats on the joe biden administration, criticizing it in all directions. moreover , they are playing quite rightly, thereby playing into the hands of the republicans voluntarily or involuntarily, because the republicans have normal relations with saudi arabia and even very good ones with donald trump from him to take jared kushner. but in any case, at this stage, america is weakening its presence in saudi arabia in the emirates of other arab monarchs will help. excuse me, please
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. that's all, goodbye, while the americans figure it out there, but listen, here's some very active yourself and indeed with the chinese, maybe, seriously, the very dismantling of the old system. i don't know maybe or not. saudi arabia is that play a big role personal dislike, if a single prince mohammed bin salman, personally to baida? well, the understanding that america, after all, in the middle east can no longer and does not even want to play its former role, and therefore it is necessary to search for new investors. search for new e-arms suppliers search e. well, some sort of new security umbrella, and well, you can see it, because they met si, by the way, he was met in the same way as president putin of saudi
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arabia was met in the fall of 2019, the name of the emirates. and here is joe biden, who is the same, yes, squeeze-maiden, who came in jida. in the summer of this year, he received a completely different more such a working calm reception. this says a lot, because in the traditions of these monarchies to show a guest he is a real guest or so-so or like a nail soles, as they say yes, the dismantling of the system yegor screams this is him this is his some grain of his fitting his component particle. or we invent to ourselves it's really spinning. this is a dismantling of the stubbornness of the americans. that is, see saudi arabia is not going to divorce the united states. here, as he wrote, is the same political scientist, about whom the colleague spoke. yes, he very clearly cited taxes, it’s just that the united states and saudi arabia have a different understanding of marriage for the united states, uh, marriage between saudi arabia and the united states is a catholic marriage, and saudi
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foreign ministers. says no. we have another understanding. marriage with us it is possible to have several wives in the sense that within the framework of a muslim marriage with these analogies. i remember in our history of the program, the meeting place was somehow compared there, dear guests. there are other countries with relatives, and then we got a complete divorce. in these analogies, the ones begin again. no look. this is the direct status of the saudi minister of foreign affairs, which brings this political scientist that we have a muslim understanding of marriage. in the sense that our cow just wants to diversify and wants to work from china from the usa and the americans do not allow this, the americans demand to choose, and as a result, saudi arabia leaves towards the usa, russia and other countries that can give it what they cannot give . not because the system is terrible, but because the americans took it and rested. here forcing saudi arabia to do
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what he balked at as a system. or is it a personal dislike of the two leaders that arose, one of the leaders is changing, most likely the one that is older mr. biden reappears in personal contact, and we will not talk about any system instead of being unconditional, but the americans fundamentally do not want their strategic allies to ally with their strategic enemies, this will be under democracy. to the administration and under the republican republic despite all the good relations between the republics about the culture of dialogue, but here 's the eastern example alexander nikolayevich you just talked about why this does not work, and in the case between us and the west. and here between well, sort of like two eastern countries, although they are very different. so i know your attitude towards the chinese, but, nevertheless, here are the agreements between saudi arabia. and it can be china, as something i don’t know directly. well, to be unshakable, well, right for centuries, or is this some kind of temporary international relations does not happen, but it
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's all about the fact that if you discard uh hmm the attitude that exists in saudi arabia where is democratic, where is democratic potential and democratic politics united states then, in principle, uh, in this case, both saudi arabia and china are absolutely neutral and ideological. they are pursuing material goals from russia's point of view and drew attention to the fact that this deal, uh, threatens russia with additional restrictions on the energy market . ah, you see, as if you don’t really understand, why there will be restrictions, because they will somehow get it in the end , that is, they will buy oil from the saudis, and it does not prevent us from buying, china is so
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huge that it does not prevent it from buying no, and it will also judge our agreement with audits. as one of the key sellers this is theonic shifts. sorry, no, we have his sergeyevich. but this is the same tectonic shift with the transition from dollars to yuan. yes, ilya can be wrong, i don’t see it. uh, so to speak, there is no tragedy in the fact that someone switches to the calculation of national currencies instead of the dollar. and here, maybe, because in general, no matter how hard it is to save yeah, but in this case, why wanted the us want consultations against it. not democratic russia, which has taken steps against ukraine, the saudis with the chinese. they say we want a more stable economy. we want those relationships that a are built on the basis of. eh,
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common sense. and we will build them, at least among ourselves. that's actually all americans believe that they are indispensable on the world stage. and this indispensability is their certain exclusivity. moreover, they consider this not only ideologically from the point of view of pragmatic they believe that from an economic political point of view, that some relationship cannot be replaced by something else, and therefore they believe that yes. there is such a flirtation between different states and the emirates and saudi arabia and a number of other states. and i don’t even remember ukraine in just a few weeks. there, a couple of months before the start of the spices concluded a large economic agreement with the beijing americans about it. hello and v. in general, so, in general, all the same, ukraine signed it to the americans. i don't like it very much but they believe that theirs is such a principled position. here is the pressure. they may be right here, they may be wrong. time will tell, but they
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believe, they proceed from the fact, let's hope i'm not mistaken. they proceed from the fact that they flirt with other partners with the chinese with russia with someone else, and then return to them anyway, because they are, so to speak, the dominant power. here is their calculation for us, of course, it is beneficial that this is their, in a sense, reassessment of themselves, so that it really turned out to be an overestimation, so that they were wrong in this , and bend in these assessments of theirs. time will tell whether they are mistaken or they are mistaken or those who count the minute that you wanted to comment are mistaken. first of all, i want to say that all our media are all western. for some reason, the media, uh, screamed about the whole 3 days, in fact, someone watched the international arctic about call madam, yes, yes, the visit once in a cadence was invented , we don’t know that answering questions from ivan yes, of course, this is one of the very serious signs of a new structure of the world order leaving the system
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from one hegemon. one of her powers. we are for we are interested in, uh, yuan oil, because if the dollar system, bro, is narrow, the chinese will break. well, let the chinese break it and be responsible for it. and we are not building here, the task is to run to the finish line first. okay now. let's move on to how we build, shall we? uh-huh line up, so a short pause let's move on to our internal affairs. the assassination attempt on the governor's aide may be linked to a building competition. seems, late now ah-ah-ah, listen, let me completely lost my fear, thinks that if a special department, then the law is not written. i show them sweets. a life. romka fuck you, you're fight club. why should i pat him on the head? and? but no need, no need, i myself da roma work with brains, and
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the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. we continue, as i said, we return home. i returned home. here on saturday to sunday night i was in kaluga and brought a bunch from there. eh, as if stainless steel and say about differently directed such wishes. here, during the concert, they communicated with the audience. please give a big hello. anton khashchenko. say hello to yusin. so, stop spreading rot to hope to stop and invite hope, then say hello to your son. ask sytin why he still hasn't left russia if he doesn't love and hate her so much. in general, how would it be easier with you, yes, hello, and one, do not forget. so, with a reasoner in the eyes, hello to ivanushkin from the military fraternity, apparently, men from some such veteran organizations may be, that is, you see, it says a little different, and our viewers, unlike the ministry formations of russia that goes straight on their
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way. without turning to the side, neither to the left nor to the right, so now, as you understand, we are again moving on to the issues of educating such a patriotic education of our youth. here is the mine formation of the ministry of education. i'm sorry. i can't remember at all. eh, so, uh, ministry of education. uh, outlined new initiatives. here is what minister kravtsov said last friday. what hmm in a school history textbook. as i understand it, this is still a new edition of textbooks, and will be made hmm topics, and uh, means the topic of a special war operation and a description, but of the heroic deed of our fighters. i still don’t really understand how it will all look like, that is, somehow it will be there. veiled understand this, or there will simply be separate chapters. well, let's listen to minister kravtsov first. today, a new history program is being developed, a history textbook and
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the names of the heroes of the special military operation are required. it also reflects in the lessons of talking about the important, where the guys discuss a-and those questions, who are interested in them, including questions, a special military operation will definitely talk about the heroes of special operations in the classroom . since the word has already been used, we often have some kind of big initiative from above the moscow a with the way this patriotic initiative is being implemented in the localities and how it is directly perceived by the executors. it’s just that sometimes there is a desire, as if from below yes , because there are certain feelings that we should move in this direction, but how to move is not very clear and it turns out. well, let's, for example, it is connected with children and even preschoolers, let's see. a few days ago, a lot of discussion caused. this photo from penza, two schoolgirls stand in the guard of honor next to the
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memorial plaque in memory of the deceased . nikita kleimovich. the girls had machine guns in their hands and the director had a student who died in a special military operation. so-called hero desks have appeared in the classrooms of many schools across the country. it contains information about distinguished during a special operation in ukraine , the best students get the right to sit at such a desk. in addition to the hero’s photo, a qr-code is also placed on the desk, which leads to a website where you can read his biography in more detail. it is always very important for me to know that he is present at such events for the opening of the hero’s desk, and, unfortunately, this is already the fourteenth desk that we are opening, but in honor of the fallen heroes of the special military operation in the sakhalin region, but in my opinion. this is certainly a patriotic action that allows, as well as save the memory of our heroes. and this action is very
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important for relatives. in the kostroma region , schoolgirls sew amulets for participants in a special operation. a local tv report tells how students from school number 13 in the city of buya embroider scarves with prayers and words of love and hope for a speedy return of teachers. the director told the idea to do something with their own hands came from the children themselves, we embroider, and with a prayerful desire that hmm our guys would return. i mean, it's actually a very touching moment. yes, but almost protect. that yes, i believe that our handkerchiefs, as amulets, prepared patriotic initiatives, and for preschoolers, a resident of yaroslavl found in a developing book for five-year-olds a rate with photographs of the military and questions to children about what kind of defenders of the fatherland they plan to become in a children's book a new year's miracle quest, in addition to other things, the child is asked to answer questions. how long does service in the russian army last? what are the soldiers taught there, and also depict the movement, how the
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soldier aims from a gun armen is the king for us and the new year will not give us offense. some of these examples, or maybe you have some kind of conscience, does it look excessive or is everything in order, look. eh, i'm already after before the interview, but i formulated the main idea. and now i will certainly incur the wrath of my opponents, but i will try to generate it. i also hope that they will understand me. so look at patriotism. it's like faith well, that is, you believe in your country. do you believe in your future in this country, and then we start by example, uh, to disassemble orthodoxy, because faith and orthodoxy. everyone has different orthodoxy , conditional grandmothers, which, uh, holy water. there , somewhere, it is mined in a spring. after that, they put it on the windowsill and look at whether it will bloom or not. that is, such a faith is something strange faith in this grandmother. i'll create for you too. for example, i’ll cite, but there is, for example, berdyaev, dostoevsky
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, where, and reasoning, where is the attempt to understand oneself god , where is the attempt, uh, including arguing with myself, i don’t know how to take the legend of the grand inquisitor, and from the karamazov brothers, well, that is, and this is a few, different, depth is perception. it's the same with patriotism. do you either believe for real or do you focus on the form? here is patriotism now , judging by how to say that we put a jar of holy water everywhere and wait. doubting that this is holy water. waiting for it to bloom. so it turns out in most cases when strange well. i see a slightly different problem like this, very, very deeply. it seems to me that, uh, when we talk about these topics all the time, this is again, uh, the last thing that we will experiments, then the other side. here they are,
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their patriotism, as they thought, inflated to such an extent that they simply don’t go to any gates. here, how would we how would we not do. that's exactly the same, although certainly. the idea is a good other other concerns always. therefore, so that the form does not destroy the content, that is, is it good here from these examples? here tell me that you are honest here i will answer was the content. here we take a card. what smart guy thought of putting a desk at the same time as heroes in school? and i liked it, just, then when it appears, a mustache, horns there or something else, who then. but for some reason it seems to me that it is not clear there will not appear. i don't know rogov. i can't listen. excuse me, please, about the hero's desk. allow me. yes , i just arrived from the kursk region this morning. i am a deputy from this region, a border region, and we opened in one of the border
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regions, just a hero's desk. and believe me, with those eyes, with the trepidation with which the students treat this party, and i talked to them in an informal setting. they say with tears in their eyes that they will have to study well, because it is an honor for them, they live on this earth, they were almost the same age as the guys of 25 years old, vladislav and his grandfather were present and sobbed the whole class and these were sincere tears you can't order it like that, neither schoolchildren nor teachers, even the head of the district shed a tear and believe me, they will not draw a mustache on it. they do this, because this is practically the faith they already have, yes. because this is the guy who graduated from their school and they they know that he went to protect his family and so on, vladimir had something in mind that he had. whatever, as it were, a little bit of such a semi-mystical, as it were, attitude towards patriotism. right. i
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perceive the country. these are the heroes among us, this is a good example. and believe me, no one imposes. it is from above that no one forces school directors to open these desks. they take the initiative themselves. someone may be asking for help, but basically they even do everything themselves and the guys know these people know who laid down their lives for them and no one will not draw stock. please clarify, these are only those heroes who are no longer there, the dead or or the majestic war. this is not just about a special military operation. after all, that's why i wedged in. it didn't start a year ago and didn't start with an interview with respected sergey sergeevich kravtsov , for example. cadet class in our region, since 2002, and graduates have become officers, and since the eighty-third year, the eternal flame is burning and there is post number one, and it has not ceased to exist for a single day, then
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there are in the regions, as i say in a good way, in the village. this patriotic upbringing never stopped with respect to this desk, if vladimir viktorovich expressed, and the assumption that children would somehow relate to this would not be very well painted, and so on. indeed, this is somehow here you are as a psychologist. you can say that it beckons that i don’t know how to express my protest and so on, or it’s all invented by those to whom this is just the very idea. close, there is, just a very important ratio of content and form, when it is behind it really a person. he studied at this school and the image of this person. when respect, it really can be in the form of luck. it can be on special memorial plaques, that is, there are some places, yes, to which children can really learn about it, really. capture the moment of his feat. and this is really a moment of sincere upbringing. yes, that is, some kind of abstract, it may not work. let's just say it. well, there are a lot of people there, and the main point that confuses me a little here with
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points of view. come on, you are the psychology of the moment, what exactly is steam? yes, we said an important point here, they sit down to study well. i think that there will be special memorial plaques or others, where children can come and learn history in a very important way, really to their regions to their places. this is an important moment. and when excuse me here you are granted the right. you will study at our desk here where why is it not, that when the child is at the desk and listens to math, he should turn on math, then here like this. this is purely the construction of the educational process. here is the moment, that is, if he sat down there for a short while, but at some point, if the story is there, it’s permissible to confess love at that moment, if there is worse love for you, but this is a secondary moment. and here is where there is artificiality. well, let's just say girls, and with machine guns, which i think is most likely, well, that is, here, i think that the greats even disappear, but if the descent, they do not understand, why
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is it wrong with machine guns, well, honorable cows. i think, that after all these girls were not taught to use. they don't have a title. they don't have all that military training and guards of honor if i think about, uh, the eternal flame and other things. still, it makes up for those who chose their direction, but some kind of military service. these girls can be historians, educators and other things. in this case, chances wait, i know what i'm going to tell you anton, wait a minute. wait, tradition , tradition, i traveled to minsk relatively recently, probably two months ago. well, for the weekend. and here i am now i’m listening and remembering that there was a guard there at the eternal flame, an honor guard. uh, guys. well, probably, that's the same age as these girls, and moreover, i didn't understand them. there is also a huge complex. made here. actually, under the square there right already you know for the soul, it takes something, guys. they're from somewhere through an underpass. that means they are marching, which means that the
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boy sees them. there are four or six people there. here , from the dacha of the guard, all this is very, very solemn and looks, of course, great. they then they go upstairs to this square , the fact that i have been telling for so long alone without machine guns changes. they are in military uniform. uh-huh well, in such a stylized girl with pigtails bows. they have boys here. here is such a stylized form, but they didn’t have a machine gun in their hands. this is belarus, where , in fact, the relationship is completely, well , everything is different, it’s just that these machine guns were not there to hand out to everyone. here, lord , listen, here is a textbook. no, they are not everywhere . in fact, it is not always in the right quantity is a tradition for decades. in the nineties, this early mid-nineties, when i was at school, even in the nineties they put up such guards at memorable places on holidays, which means that the boys stood and the girls stood in this is nothing new, in general there is that directly, of course, antonovich and then they didn’t move at school it was
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also there now, all the more questions from parents sound. are you romanticizing the attitude towards war, because war is death and so on and so forth. i don't even want to talk about it now enter always. and i am somehow because we go aside and do not discuss the main ones, because there have always been dissatisfied people. it's just that sometimes these dissatisfied people were not heard at that time. and now since the internet freedom of speech. they need to be explained to people, they need to be explained. now let's start over with the tutorial you started with . i will again return to my past , the beginning of the nineties, the middle. that we learn history in a history textbook, as i remember now, a lot, a lot, which means that there is about anything large volume. naturally, dedicated to the great patriotic war, a little something about the seventies, and then, literally, as far as i remember, there, in my opinion, there is one page or two that the soviet union collapsed, which means russia, that is, not an explanation of the reasons for what? why? nobody really understood why, but the result of this was that,
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not the state or society, that is, people, but their own positions were formed, because the parents of grandparents would say and from what someone would say on tv. what a mess was in my head right or wrong, probably wrong , so that's why, if we want the mess in the head to be unconditional, the history books should try their best here last second. i will now voice it for the second time, or there 15 here, but in the same ukraine in the early nineties there. hop, they just began to very actively explain why the soviet union was like that, that and now. yes, they explained before, that means the state into which it has now turned, therefore, we are now those, as someone sees, that in all these things there is some kind. well, it's dangerously dangerous there, yes, or how would a person they are afraid of what we will turn into ukraine says. let's be calmer to all these
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patriotic initiatives in the head, of course, we must not go to extremes. but i'm sorry then it means that we should refuse to tell the truth and be ashamed. i ask, just here on examples and to disassemble. and where are the extremes here in this enumerated. here, the party colleagues do not understand, a categorically important point. this is a machine gun in the hands of the counting guard. well i do not know can a brand new history textbook appear any time soon. it is a matter of developing this textbook, carrying out all the examinations, of course, it is very difficult to write about the present now, while being inside the process that has not yet been completed. unfortunately it will. fast no does not appear, it is fast is a processor that is not. and let's talk about the process, which is faster if the textbook is a few years old. that is another initiative. they are also the ministry of education - this can be done very quickly. what is this about, in order to involve in the military training of schoolchildren in the future those who are now participating in a special military operation. well, antonovich let 's agree, so last month the first deputy minister. enlightenment, his name is
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alexander bugaev, he said that participants in the special operation can be invited to new courses as such kind of mentors for classes in basic military training. these should appear already in the next academic year, the head of buryatia alexei tsidinanov announced that all the injured participants in the special operation from the buryats will get, uh, special education and be able to teach schoolchildren. the same basic military training. true, there are quite a few child psychologists here. it will not provide security. this is a paradid, rather new fears. what does it mean that not everything is going well with us, even now children's preparation for some kind of military action is being introduced. well, then our modern children do not have the ability to resolve conflicts in a peaceful way. they are from the poorest regulation, and so impregnated with fears about fear always lead. like aggression
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alekseinovich, how do you like this story. i why u wonder why? i remember how here he is just veterans of the great patriotic war. yes , what they were telling was completely untrenched, the truth, yes, not at all the same as the war looked through their eyes. in fact, they had some particular pair of top three of their stories very much for children. let's just say adapted, yes, like an adult. do you often understand what you've been told? well, something that, maybe, well, it was just telling on purpose. for you as child the question is now the participants in the special military operation are returning, what do they see there, i'm afraid, i'm afraid to guess. how much should children be told? or they need to be told something else. and what can they say? i don't know since the year, probably 2006, i have a question in my head, because. there, too , he conducted all sorts of television broadcasts, there and so on, and they came very often. hey patriots. eh, our young, and the most in the case, i told, in my opinion,
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how it means that the patriots came in military uniform. and when i asked one of them just like about zoya kosmedianskaya. he says, i don’t know who your zoya kosmodemyanskaya is, but i, like a patriot, want to say the following. yes, this is a case from my practice for me. in fact, there is always a question. why do we have patriotism is very connected with militarism, and this trend was not clear to me then, so to speak, this is the simplest and no, no, you must make your homeland. now, when she is attacked, when she is attacked, when she is attacked, we will not brag with you, yes, uh television erosive broadcasts. here they came to me. one day not patriots. tanya lazareva and misha are likely to be a foreign agent, in my opinion, i don’t know what they are, i don’t know who they are as a patriot, yes, yes, despite the fact that i knew him for hell knows how many years on the air. we quarreled with them, there was still some businessmen, because there was some kind of
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conversation like this. there is also protein there, otherwise they started, it means that you are there . here why are you doing this? there militarization, there consciousness blah blah blah. i say, that's because when the time comes to defend the homeland, and we will have one, which means creative classes and so on, so they did not agree with me. well, now here i specifically pulled out this is the phrase. clinical psychologist mrs. morozova that we brought our children, it turns out, they cannot resolve conflicts in a peaceful way, they understand, they are saturated with fears, what fears are they saturated with for this ? and how would they decide now this one the conflict we are resolving. oh, this is an incredibly difficult question here, so to speak, such a slippery, thin line, so as not to slide down, it is clear that, of course, the task of any citizen is to protect his homeland. and the motherland is mom, dad is home, and
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there yes, and this must be told from childhood. someone just comes and wants to take your house and kill your parents. therefore, you must, er, so to speak, have in yourself the desire and opportunities to see your land, but to place an exclusive emphasis on this is very strange for me. do you know now there is liberal test. i know now to say the same. he will e be subjected to certain criticism. why, in the name of the motherland, one must die and not live, do you understand this? thought in the twenty-first century among children. we are completely different now, this story with humanism and liberalism, which in one way or another germinates in our heads and in the heads of our children. this is a significant issue. why should i die in the name of my motherland and not live not to do it, it’s better not to create something new young man there or who has such a question he does not have any understanding that he simply will not have any homeland. here she must be protected, because they want to destroy her, and he will not
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be able to make her better or even worse than her , because she will not be. this is a question. does this young man feel danger to his homeland in our present time? so he feels that this is bad or not? yes yes absolutely right. aleksey sums it up in a different way, that we will not always finish it there mikhail borisovich you know, to be honest, i think that not absolutely no matter how the young man feels. dangerous for his motherland or not, it is more important to see if there is a real danger to the motherland or not, therefore, uh, the consciousness of a particular young man. it is secondary. in this case, yes, here the society and the state should decide. is there really any danger in general that our generation has been brought up with you in terrible pacifism in terrible pacifism. here, somewhere, there were some chechen companies, somewhere there was some kind of afghan war,
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somewhere there was some kind of ukrainian war. and we live in big cities. we make a career, i don’t know, we go about our business and we think that in this life. the main thing is that nothing like this happens in my life personally. here, so that it can be negatively evaluated somehow. here in reality life is not so perfect in reality life. then you have to say, listen, it's hard to give birth, you don't have to go to give birth. they kill terribly there in war, but you don’t need to protect your neighbor, because it’s dangerous. they can give you on the head there, yes, and the horses die from work. yes, and there, how is it, why come here there we did not bring an iron locomotive here for this. i came here there, and so on and so forth , some such strange reflections about what this life is like. but, she says, filled with joy and creepy creepy pacifism to eradicate it really or not. well, firstly, i think that
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pacifism should be eradicated as a certain disease. here, in fact, militarism is not a disease, but pacifism is a disease, because in reality we live in a world in which war is well present. well, in almost every generation the life of every generation, and if we are not ready, that's one of those who served, remember, that's how you got into the army. i remember that i was in the army. for me it was some kind of transition from one life to another. i entered the university and ended up in the army, firstly, in a different social environment. and secondly, completely unprepared. well, let's just say discipline, but some kind of a in renunciation of one's will. yes, because the army ordered you to. you went to do something , but in fact, i should have been prepared. and where the root of pacifism changes grass paint and march, and then the units that we get, depending on which units
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you served in. where there were a lot of units in which they did not paint, in general, they ran, jumped and slept little. yes, and therefore here in this case, it seems to me, now you will tell for the boys. these are especially good opportunities to dedicate a very small amount of time to supporting the machine there or the small thing, as it were . you understand on the one hand. uh, painting the grass. this is a very patriotic occupation because you make your country better. secondly, yes, secondly, i’ve heard stories about painting grass so many times, but i’ve never seen it, and it’s like, here are my friends who also served like me. they, too, cannot understand this, about this story, so to speak , with a threat, the army itself is arranged in our country, as i have many of my close ministries under my window. i went
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on regular things, so to speak, and in the landing, and so on and so forth, there i have my personal personal examples, but listen for yourself, the army was arranged, and we now know these problems. yes , all telegram channels are full. and so to speak , articles there, and how when a professional army and from the one that we have, but pieces of paper and others and others, the army itself dictated, but as it were, the meaning of peacetime is our army. it existed for a period when, so to speak, mikhail borishch served you andrey vladimirovich, it existed within the framework of peacetime and the entire broadcast, which was inside at a relaxed pace. she existed only because of. to this world, so to speak, which reigned within the army, including. well, this, in fact . i don't understand what you're objecting to now then now. you know, i'm listening to everything. my hair starts to stand on end, so about the army. you me. sorry if you didn't serve, you don't have to think, you didn't have to, i'm answering your
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questions. why exactly, but relatively liberalistic called. yes? yes, all those who think about the motherland in the way that you said are running across the border and they are not thinking about the motherland. i think it's about my egoism, how to save my ass. you see, for the expression, it means, uh, in relation to all those plots that we have seen, it means, uh, post number one has always existed and i am on post. one was my daughter, for example, yes, he was at post number one, and with a machine gun with a weight-size layout. nothing wrong. not as she did not identify herself, neither with the war, nor with some kind of aggression, and so on. she identified herself with the true essence of patriotism. it is an honor of dignity, history and memory. and when we have on the boards , respectively, the tablets of heroes, or people to remember, to talk about. and this is a very good substitute for the fact that
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he just didn’t draw the devils on the desk, but clearly understood that he was awarded the honor of brilliance, respectively, the purity of the party for which the hero sat, there is no need to divide here. you know, on these military topics, patriotism is there, and some aggressive topics and so on, patriotism is a combination. and those who are trying to single out in this militarism, or, accordingly, introduce some kind of military component. for the most part, nothing. wait a minute. here. i will turn to the thesis of mikhail borisovich who said that these are strange young people asking strange questions. the consciousness of some young man is secondary. this is the difference between mikhail borisovich when i insist that, including at school, you and i should be able to answer natural questions. why is it good to serve in the army? why is it necessary to defend the fatherland why is it necessary to go to work when we pick up a somewhat strange question a strange question is called said not when
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we are talking about how to assess who is right some person who believes that we have no security problems and the country that says we feel this security should be listened to, most likely those who know more, they are that person, who says we have no enemies this phrase, but before all these events. what are our enemies? we have no enemies and never have. this is not all militaristic thinking. let me just object. because i listened to you, i clearly got the feeling that these are the people who ask such questions - these are strange people, wrong people. and that this knowledge of a young man is not primary sausages because of the secondary nature, we are faced with the fact that people do not believe in the same patriotism, they do not believe, because they do not feel it and we cannot not be able to answer, elementary lessons. really. and there was a lot done so that, well, patriotism looked ridiculous somehow because of the
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quite young already. they understand perfectly well that the motherland needs to be protected. and today, right now, you need to protect, but they do it, well, in a peculiar way with their own idea of ​​\u200b\u200bthe beautiful, and here again a new e problem begins, because, well, sometimes again, there are distortions, and now we have completely massive phenomena. this is a fight against not even a fight and will not be called a word with ukrainian propaganda. this is the organic rejection of these you understand the signs that we see, there is the neighboring side, but it looks like this. well, it might be ridiculous, really. i have to admit this is a big problem, this is a small one. i don't know, let's see, now the plot will try to figure it out. residents of rostov-on-don met with hostility the new year's decor, which the city authorities began to install on the streets, all because of the colors, which, according to the especially zealous
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patriots, painfully looks like the colors of the ukrainian flag. look at this disgrace, rostov-on-don fluffy flags. and how do you act as a patriot of hohland ? come on, glory to ukraine, shout here. the composition that caused the scandal was removed from harm's way, but the story itself caused such a resonance that the prosecutor general's office and the state duma had to come up with explanations. they reminded that the flag of ukraine is his color. also, the ukrainian language, the culture of the song, is generally not banned. although there are nuances. i think that these citizens should go. somewhere obvious paranoia the russian federation refuses anything ukrainian, if artists and songs do not glorify fascism to bandera and do not humiliate the dignity of russians, and believe that ukrainian songs should remain with us. i myself know and sing songs in ukrainian, but mostly folk soon. after these explanations , news came from tver in the city center,
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an unknown person hung a homemade garland on the new year tree with enemies of the people vladimir zelensky joe biden, we call macron alla pugacheva and another agent maxim galkin , passers-by were offered to tear off some part from each figurine, officials. quickly realized the garland was noticed and removed within half an hour by the administration of the central district. it was a christmas tree in the central area of ​​the city, yellow, blue. coloring excites patriotic-minded russians for more than a month. so even at the beginning of the school year in sevastopol, the public was excited because of the decoration of one of the school classrooms with balls of the wrong color. and although the principal of the school convinced that the balloons were bought by the parents themselves, coincidence with the colors of the ukrainian flag, by chance, but at the lessons the topic of ukraine did not the teacher who allowed such a non-triotic act was affected, nevertheless, she was fired. in the photograph that walks through parental chats, all texts are only in russian, but similar to the hutsul
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costume can really be seen in the figure between the alphabets. but yellow-blocked the surroundings of the lesson are obvious and its double interpretation excludes the flag of ukraine next to the icon on the bedside table. so antonovich , this is how e elena is something. i just saw there in this photo, there is red. uh, the red corner is green, so first of all, these things are here, and the first story is about a girl or a woman who didn’t like the scenery there, as far as i understand, this castle was still standing last year, and then it did not raise any questions. yes, it’s impossible to get to the point of insanity, and that’s for everyone, including the official who forbids, so for the matinee of heroes, it means that westerners should be reminded of all these things, uh, read vladimir putin to listen when he says that only idiots. well , there uh-huh cancel someone else's culture. we are not like that
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, so we do not go the way. that is, these are radical manifestations. these are not mass manifestations. we discuss and see them only because it cannot be considered informational. the fields are all raised by a manifestation of patriotism, this is some kind of wrong person, no, a person considers himself a patriot. he is quite a good patriot. here you are patriotism - this is love for the motherland, this is an opportunity, the ability and desire to defend patriotism. this is anyone who yells there, we do n’t know, maybe someone fought with this woman there, and there she sees these colors. she has normal reaction nothing bad normal about it in a woman, someone died there for her, that's all. now, probably, the other one is more embarrassing than the other, then it is the language, as she is all this on the video, as they say, some kind of tone, this one is even more embarrassing to me than her claim. that is, this is some kind of hubbian message. i really don't like it
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in many ways well. and why did they remove it then, it means out of harm's way, reinsurance out of sin , it turns out, as it were, when she is recording this video video appears in telegram channel. here the administration of the region of the district immediately reacts. cities and so on and cleans everything, it turns out. here, from this picture, the woman is lining up , she was right and reported, so to speak, they removed everything from the revisions. unfortunately, do as i do, unfortunately, in short, the administration does not want to play it safe. of course, the administration, the contractors should have thought about the head before putting in those colors that can confuse people the situation. this is how you should think. yeah wait, well here you go said the third color of the rostov region, that is, the rostov region rostov must give up their own colors. so, what colors are there in the rostov region. how many colors are there? how many colors are three three colors? there is obviously a gamut here, yellow is similar and blue? well, let's say it 's yellow, blue in itself, it doesn't notice anyone. haven't
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been able to deliver. do you still know what you want to show me? i don't think this is correct. i explain that if there is such a situation in the country and there is an understanding that such citizens may appear, who can show a reaction, it’s better to play it safe once again and this trigger will not give us new year’s colors. uh, white and red, that's the nasty polish flag. let us then cancel all this again, father frost, please, don’t do this here, i gave it, listen, i’m absolutely not talking about this. don't need me, please, but i'm here my assumption is quite logical. this is the time. yes, why do we have such terrible things everywhere and a woman has this wrong assumption, if we excuse me, if active hostilities and in colors that may resemble the ukrainian flag made by the installation, it is better not to do this. understandably? what is. let's turn it on alexander well
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, i'm sorry. this is just one example, we have analyzed it, and the second example is from this garland. this is not it, not patriotism is not painted over. this is pro-activism, wait a second. i remember this activism. is this activism right or wrong. in my opinion. no, vladimir viktorovich signaled the whole plot to me. excuse victor alexander on you manicure on me, on which i have already started think they might suspect something, is it activism or what do you know? it's just a manicure, of course. yes. you understand a cigar is just a cigar for people in an anxious state. indeed, you can start to seem anything you want and two key points are the phrase patriotic education. there is a very important word, the upbringing of which is not present in a dialogue in a monologue. more precisely, these are the women who shoot the rollers on this drew the christmas tree. i think no comments, this is generally out of education. and that's why things like this happen there are two key emotions on which
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people really start to do the very right things that did this trust and acceptance. she fears. people also begin to do something to keep stuffing, to hang christmas trees, or to put something else. show activism, and that's until you have explained it in practice. sorry for that, yes quote. this is very important, as soon as trust acceptance is formed, we will have very good examples of patriotism in the perception of both militaristic meta and cultural reminiscences. aspect, linguistic of all that is good, which really is the most identification of oneself with this society, as soon as anxiety and fear come, there will be distortions. you see aggression and a negative understanding of activism, as we were told, there is an outstanding artist. marina abramovich is there 100 years ago, or when she did it there, she is holding her action there, when she is standing in a dress, and everyone can cut off. here is a piece of her dress. oh, how fucking awesome was
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it figurines of various not very good people according to their attitude towards our country. give them something. by the way, we saw it there, yes, we sealed it, because all the uncles have it. there, their pissies were also glued on, so that they could also be cut off from vaikule and pugacheva there, that is, this activism. he is bad at marina abramovic, cut off a good one. and cut off these bad ones. and firstly, we have a good one there, but here is the moment of the educational aspect. i 've been hearing all this time that this is an outstanding art project. you see in general, everything that was done. uh, for many years, there has been a good seller. to be honest, when we touched on this topic last time a few weeks ago. i think it's all over now. after one scandal occurred, there is no question that we have mobilized people who are participating or have participated and will participate
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in a special military operation. and when they go to the water, while still at the bottom of the war of action , some public places are not allowed in, new and new some regional stories do not stop. yes because of that they come in uniform, here. as far as here this fact does not exactly let. is it about patriotism or not, is patriotism theorism or not? this is anti-patriotism, because you do not let a person defend another. let's see the plot. in krasnodar, russian military men in uniform were allegedly not allowed into the bar again because of the dress code, the participants got 2 days off and wanted to relax, however, the guards of the ruki vverkh bar did not let them in after the scandal, the owner of the bar, sergei zhukov, said that he had lifted the ban at the entrance to camouflage clothes in all their bars and the defenders of the motherland are always welcome there if the guys are really military or have returned from the war zone. i will personally invite them to us with my friends. as it turned out, a similar ban on
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camouflage is in effect in many bars. at the end of november in saratov, a mobilized man in camouflage clothes was not allowed into the bar. after that, the owners began to receive threats, and the local deputy asked to check the establishment. why can't russian military personnel because you're in uniform? and what, well, it's not, uh. the establishment is not needed. this is to disperse our establishments in our establishment. you can not go in the form of employees of the ministry of defense police. you see, in novosibirsk, the bunker club also did not let a russian soldier in and the refusal was explained by the presence of a dress code, however, one of the employees of the institution spoke about another and possibly the true reason for the refusal, they say they do not want to let the mobilized people in fear that they will start a brawl. when
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the story hit the press declared that the institution behaving in this way should be closed immediately and promised to apply to the prosecutor's office. these are ordinary hucksters, the state put them in this uniform, so this is a spit in the face of the authorities in the face of the armed forces. this institution should be closed within a few hours after this, if the emphasis was placed precisely on the form on their appearance , then this is not appropriate. ekaterina this is really a spit in the face of the authorities of the state, and so on and so forth. these are generally stories about anti-patriotism, patriotism, or here it was the opinion of this person who says they are afraid of
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debauchery. i think that these are some extreme diametrically opposed positions, and this official is also very subjective. uh, he doesn't have the authority to shut down any three-hour close for an hour. no, of course, no, you need to talk, including being open to the authorities and you need to meet with the owners of the institution and sort out the specifics. yes, it doesn’t seem to you that you need to talk, also with the guys who are going to drink wars did not complete the phrase. here a medal with not three or four sides, as if honoring its military uniform brest that indeed we, probably, have missed something very much in 30 years, education and everything that the ministry of education and science of higher education does very timely is definitely unacceptable honor the uniform by some improper behavior. eh, honor uniforms, while of course the uniform cannot
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be uh, while the soviet officers, especially since i don’t understand how they can do that. you know, i was lucky. this is the second time we've seen this series. rollers. and then i now remembered a case of life at the age of 14. uh, i had such a final shift in the children's camp and there was a unit nearby, so, uh, two conscript soldiers approached me in the afternoon. the arrow speaks to me like that, listen , he says, can you please give us a shirt and shoes. and here are your pants. you came there with a suitcase. well, i’m like a child right away, which means i thought that they were bad uncles, but everything seems to be fine with thieves. i asked a question i say, and why does he say to you? well, we have a day off, we want to go, uh, with the girls on date and so on. well, we ca n't do it in uniform, and uh. hmm, you really said it right, yes, we know, no one bothers. uh, to change, respectively, the form of the honor that needs to
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shine, respectively, but you know, if everything in aggregate is faster, yes, we are living in such a difficult time now, because and we are in the grip of some kind of information attacks of permanent administrations need to be explained, why should something be removed women. eh, they also want to find some kind of, and their such a fraction of attention. they are respectively they are trying to help the state, which means removing some incomprehensible stories. that's it. therefore, the upbringing of one's completely agrees with the textbooks, and some kind of structural approach in this regard. they really are. let's do aleksey gennadievich all the time in a couple of minutes we will let him down. and mikhail shufutinsky called them his polar explorers and sang their songs. i will go south. of course, i will go south. a call is being made to mikhail shufutinsky
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just be a decent person. i understood everything myself, mikhail borisovich will come, i'm afraid that if you taught all this, it's also time to die, and you won't be able to convey any patriotism to someone, so here. i think it's much more important not mindlessly not accepting some patterns that may have existed back in soviet times somehow 34 more times to think about whether something needs to be introduced, and whether it will be accepted by modern people who are just now learning to be perceived in schools, so i have three point programs. the first example is the motherland in all its imperfection, the second is love it like this and the third try. just try to convey this love to your neighbor. so antonul olesevich. you know, i have one recipe, but i'm afraid that if i voice it, they will accuse me of stalin's practices. i am i will explain in a different way, my colleague said correctly, we are in a very difficult time, when everything is very
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fast and sometimes there is no time to think about everything and think over it all correctly , so, of course, there will be some small shoals will be minor flaws. what you need to do first is to react in time is to change everything. yeah, and the second one doesn’t pick a stick, where it already painfully showed patriotism. it's impossible to avoid in my opinion. look at the times of the holy roman empire and ancient roman times bc, all this was already then. the main thing is that a person who somehow puts his ostentatious patriotism on display for you, he does for the sake of some goal of his own specific subjective. what is it to achieve, where you will listen to do. this goal should not be fulfilled, then there will be ostentatious patriotism. well, patriotism, subtle matter, it's understandable that's why i won't say anything about it, but there's as much window dressing as you like, that means. and the husband is standing at a public transport stop and see that on the opposite side of the street there goes, uh, a young woman. well, a girl with a bust is just an outstanding size. and then all of a sudden she stumbles and just like that, falls flat
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forward. well, at the moment of contact with uh, asphalt, she bounces back like a ball, takes up a vertical position again, goes further, the husband pushes his wife while he says, you see, and you are talking from silicone. no benefit, just show. it was instead of a meeting that cannot be changed 14:00 ntv weekdays goodbye to everyone. hello

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