fuck, i'm gathering thousands of reservists europe needs security guarantees from russia how moscow came up with the idea of ​​repaying georgia for neutrality. they will come, his ride won't last long. and why is turkey imposing restrictions on russians? please take your card. so for the second day about this today in our program. hello, is this the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear? i'm andrey norkin. my colleague is ivan trushkin. we are working live. today we will start with two e, the news of the last hours. one relatively speaking, such a military, as if the subject matter is different, as if a pseudo-measure of creative means, as far as news in military subjects is concerned. and the day before, well, so far, probably, such leaks have appeared. and what was agreed upon was almost agreed on the delivery of american patriot complexes to ukraine, allegedly two signatures remained,

the actual signature of the us secretary of defense pentagon chief luido austin and the signature of united states president joseph biden. after that , patriot missiles go nowhere. germany there, additionally in poland, they are mediocre on ukraine will be delivered the reaction was like this. at least what i saw on social media. this news, of course, is unpleasant, but nevertheless, the patriot complexes are by no means a guarantee of security, ukraine those facilities that we periodically audit as evidence immediately remembered the story of the saudi arabian oil facilities that were set up there last year before last for the purpose for the yemeni drones, these objects were protected, just the patriot complexes and no help. in general, they but did not appear. everything, it was destroyed. here, as for the second, as if, i said the news of such a pseudo peacekeeping - this is the proposal of the president of france, or rather, a proposal for his reflection. and when the macron told him, some time ago he said that we still need to discuss some kind of

security guarantees for russia in general, ah, young european countries - this proposal of the french president was not supported. and therefore no such. here peacekeeping progress is not planned. here with this topic. can be a little more detailed. call macron to discuss security guarantees for russia caused a riot on a european ship the skirmishers were the czech republic the czech republic sent to the eu countries a draft dimash in an informal document lists aspects of cooperation and dialogue with russia starting from a nato document russia from 1997 and ending with proposals from december 2021 , which included the guarantees required russian diplomats said that russia's previous efforts regarding the european security architecture were aimed at dividing and weakening europe chekhov's initiative was immediately supported by the

baltic countries and the slovak poles who joined them, of course, also did not stand aside, saying that in general, not russia, but the eu itself, needs security guarantees language, an important story is extremely important not to allow oneself to be drawn in in any way into arguments that ukraine supposedly should give up some part of its territory or that russia has the right to expect security guarantees from anyone, discussion of this type is a strategic mistake, old fascists jose barrel, who considers himself the head of european diplomacy, supported the demarche, in fact, he said that it was not worth hurrying with guarantees for russia, but for ukraine they are just right now. although the problem is constantly reminded in the kremlin, much deeper is the desire of the united states to listen to our concerns, that is, in fact, the desire of the united states to return to the state of december. january and wonder what the russians are offering. maybe not everything suits us, but maybe it's still worth it with them

sit down at the negotiating table. i mean the draft documents that were handed over in brussels and washington, let's try to proceed from the fact that we ourselves are like a country. eh, we are not going to sit down with anyone for some kind of promo. precise negotiations, we calmly conduct our activities there, uh, up to the goal that we have set, and then only then we can talk. here are the european partners hmm, this irritating u- turn and vacillation, how long will georgiy lecho last? what do you think, because here? it seems to me that it’s not even about the events in ukraine , this is it there, poland france there were no baltic states , but this alignment and depravity. it would be so even if the events in ukraine were not in eastern europe or there the new europe would have opposed the old one on all points of the political agenda. they have huge disagreements. it’s just that the situation with russia exacerbates these disagreements. russia becomes an irritant, because there is a conditional, i

emphasize, far from all and western europe , some more sober assessment in russia’s relations economic at least the participation of people, then eastern europe continues to see it in such an ideological nationalist. here i would not say there, as a whole, but in europe because no. well, look, that's where the hungarians have now received. how many 6.5 billion were blocked there. so i say, it’s all some kind of such, i can’t, in my opinion, there are different terms to find. i say in western europe there is the netherlands there is a building that has an anti-russian tough stance. yes, but, nevertheless , conditionally, old europe against conditional new. this is conditionally old, conditionally new, they will continue to move away from each other. on all issues, the question of russia begins and ends with questions of value. this is just an internal problem of an internal split. we have always, well, almost always said that when the balts are against something or the poles are against it, it means that they themselves do not make

decisions. and the united states is somehow in their ear. something like this began, is it really so or because then it turns out illogical they always whisper, and then suddenly they are like that independent and no one can agree with anyone for their positions. found experience will sometimes be whispered very actively, because in the united states, internal divorce of the european union is beneficial, it weakens the european union as an organization, but uh, not to be underestimated. here, some personal phobias , the interests and wishlist of the eastern european elites , it’s just that poland has all the power of poland, there are fewer opportunities for these shades to express jokes, but the principle of collective decision-making in the european union. nobody canceled. he is more. we are now periodically talking, by the way, saying, do it quite often. compared to there, i don't know, there first of the year. if i remember correctly the last time we spoke, but in general, everyone agreed that in terms of economic power, but they couldn’t really compete with anyone else, therefore, there is some kind of story going on, there is this idea with some kind of military corrected one vladimir

vladimirovich said so. well, and here are the diplomatic ones, such diplomatic demarches, how are they in this one? well, they settle down. that is, this is an attempt somehow there, but i would pay attention that here came out for the shooter, the czech republic, they are poland and not the baltics, and here it is more dangerous for us, they said that in general, like, the czech republic, uh, in vain a little yes, they let them out of the zone, firstly, the country, the most developed of the former eastern european countries . this country is the most influential. in european structures. she is more. the more along the line. the eu is responsible for ukraine and, by the way , for the balkans, plus the czech republic has a large military-industrial complex. she really is. maybe to us. well, just saying, shit in ukraine large, armed uh, ukraine well, again, unlike the poles and the balts, who in europe in such a figurative way could still

explain to me then, and what is the influence of the chekhovs, because if you look like that, but they are especially neither seen nor heard. here are the poles, they are everywhere, as if you understand the imprint, yes, what are they like here, and the czechs? well, yes, i agree. they can do something there, but it seems like they do it. it's invisible. that's what influence is. the fact is that firstly the czech republic still not to such an extent, russophobes, like the poles and now the current czech government, is just trying to establish itself as such radical russophobes. and this is influence. for example, in the fact that the czech european commissioners are on the line of the european union. uh, often responsible for neighborhood policy. it is precisely those european commissioners who are involved in politics that they generally make the decision and participate in the decision to a greater extent. the more who shakes the possible desire of western europeans to agree or create some the total security system of the czech polish baltic authority is enough to somehow kill these desires, slow down, and

prevent them from pretending to be alive somewhere. or, as it were, they blare there, but the big guys, after all, some moment of the decision, because by the way, telling the germans and french to unhook the czech republic, the task of chekhov is to unhook from this pole and attach it to yourself. as a matter of fact, the czech republic until the twentieth year with neither were, than macron makes such statements with an american, since he understands that any conflict once ends and ends with negotiations and france would like to participate in take part and have some serious role in these negotiations, so he makes such statements, but for eastern european players and for poland and for the baltic republics. e for the czech republic this is completely unprofitable. indeed, as it was said here. they come from others, and from another, shall we say, another world of understanding. what are their other goals? which, firstly, is there really both russophobia and real, that's just phobia understand how fear of the russian. yes, they really have a fear of pribals. there are herbs

before russia; poland has both fear and imperial ambitions. and the chekhovs have a desire in this situation, like all the rest of eastern europe and in slovakia, poland and lithuania, latvia, estonia, there is a desire to stab at this conflict between the west and russia . to drink additional influence, both within the framework of the european union itself and economic assistance and support from the united states and possibly other players, therefore, for them, the longer this the situation will continue, the more profitable. they receive military aid and support. they receive financial assistance. some of them receive financial assistance, and some of them also strengthen their status within the european community due to this confrontation with russia, which is why they react in this way to the statement of those, let's say. so at least the external responsibility of the european players who broadcast readiness. at least in some future to the negotiation process with russia, i'm not very phobia is the height of the spiders. i don't know water, planes,

no, there is nothing. i just understand that if i have everyone here, everyone has people, and spiders are not necessarily a fighter, however. now , if you are afraid of heights or afraid of spiders, this does not mean that you will be in favor of exterminating every spider to the last or only building. storey building do you understand what it is? well, a logical idiotic position that will never become a reality. why is he doing what poland and the baltics are doing - this is the very thing. we are afraid of heights. let's build. only yes, you understand from the point of view of tallinn, riga and vilnius, they have already experienced this moment historically. they were already independent on their own kind of victory. in a conditional conflict, some kind of victory over russia is not calculated on what the west was asked to use the current conflict between russia and the west of the new cold war and the conflict in ukraine in order to get an additional plan to understand the economic military from the

west, partly works well. so here's some information for you to think about. uh, first of all i can tell my know what the worst phobia i've been afraid of all my life. i don't know what these are called. inflatable figures here, which they are not inflatable, but they are, as it were, blowing out advertising there . yes, yes, and they have such long arms that they do. that's how the experiment is done by their pink floy sometime at their concerts. it's real for me, it's scary, i just need to run to change everything in the world. here you can speculate what it means, but in what we are now saying, my opinion is these are these young european-young europe these are the new europes simply feels that this old one, which was the main one in the yard. she has become weaker and they are just now trying to tear a piece from her for any reason, what will happen. fuck knows, well, you must definitely tear this, because

there is a chance to become the main one in this similar yard . alexey alekseevich this version has the right to you. e before the special military operation. uh, there was a very tough anti-russian concept with the european union, eh. the old european states gladly encouraged, so to speak, by the passionarity of the young europeans, who in the royal direction sailed further than their king, but at first , very strange deep-seated processes began, which in the european union are called split and are suspected of this split. naturally. uh, russian trace and in what way it was expressed in the fact that the europeans of the old plan, let's say the old school, they, uh, from the very beginning from the very beginning, with one hand, support ukraine in every possible way. well, atlantic solidarity says so, but different hand, they began to look for contacts with russia, because they perfectly understood what this video was all about, but the young europeans who went i got them under the tail and responsibility. yes, they really saw very serious opportunities, perhaps

some kind of point system and so on. they unequivocally appointed themselves guardians of european values, believing that the old europeans give this atlantic solidarity and started in this direction. well, as you always do with any neophytes, no more such direct media macrons do some statements, even josé barrett, and young europeans are beginning to twist and say it all. no, you're not too. you, in my opinion, are too pro-russian you need to be and actually this split. it 's only getting worse now. it's expanding what the europeans do with it, they don't know yet, uh, the us and the uk are very encouraging this split because yes. er, russophobia in eastern europe is the fuel that actually drives this machine of conflict with the russian federation, but the old europeans already, er, understand where this is going, especially after uh hmm but the anti-inflation act,

especially after they gave up russian fuel and so on. let me remind you that the czech republic , in fact, was 100% dependent on russian energy sources less than 5, how will it be, how will it survive in these new conditions? uh, czech stalks spin doesn't answer that question, so the czechs are gesticulating, because they need uh to get into some camp now, where they will actually have some weight. yeah, in fact, what the czech republic is the initiator of this whole situation for us is some new word. we didn't pay much attention to chekhov. yes, they said that it was ours that they focused on the fields, because there is always someone to listen to and what to see, moreover , in poland now many people say this and the press writes that the ukrainian conflict somehow sucks it in so much that it is ready to spend covert mobilization of oneself in the country and some signs of this covert mobilization. they already have in direct, more. next year he wants to call up 200,000 people for military training, this and

reservists and conscripts and those who are considered there as territorial defense fighters the news, as some officials put it, caused chaos, because the public is not ready for such a turn on this issue. unfortunately, chaos reigns, unknown. what are the criteria and who will be called upon if such things are announced. the society should know who and when the call will apply. but first of all, it is necessary to explain to the public the reasons why people have their own lives, their plans, their professional duties . poland has been preparing citizens for war with russia since the fall . why even launched combat training courses for instructors. how artists go on tour around the country and give one-day performances in military units and centers of patriotic education. where poles are taught to fight, shoot, throw grenades , provide first aid and navigate the terrain, it's more like a fun lesson. obzh means the training lived up to my expectations. it

's something else. it's like in a movie the exclusion of the press is perplexed. why do the authorities carry out covert mobilization. after all, everyone who wanted to fight has already left for ukraine. polish volunteers are dying in ukraine. for some, they are a hero ; others ask why they went there. some say that such people should be erected monuments or awarded after death, but there are also extremely negative comments. you need to have a problem with the head to voluntarily substitute it in the name of american interests from this week. poland began strengthening the borders of the president-there. agreed with germany on the transfer of patriot anti-aircraft systems from there. in addition, warsaw is actively purchasing weapons. the poles purchased 400 abrams tanks and 200 installations from the united states. himes, another 1,000 tanks, 600 howitzers and three squadrons of fighters were bought from south korea, on the right, it is obvious to everyone that the need to strengthen air

and missile defense is obvious. poland, we talked about this with the president of germany. i hope that in the coming days, the relevant groups of polish and german experts will meet and determine the place deployment of batteries of the system, air defense is now in the air. there are checks of bomb shelters and to the country of 62,000, but the authorities plan to almost double their number and create a special mobile application that will show the citizen where to run in x hour. bogdan anatolyevich when you check the bomb shelter, when you collect reservists? it's not like you're just trying to do your own thing in a conflict, which means the bonus is to get it feels like preparing for combat. and on your own territory. yeah that 's right, but here's the fighting on polish, territory. no, i'll explain now. here in the tundra, lemmings are found sometimes they are going to run and fall off a cliff, and in antarctica, penguins also have a similar syndrome. they just don't fall off cliffs. on the contrary, they go to the center of

antarctica, even if you understand this penguin and return to the local one, it still goes there and freezes. humanity has the same syndrome. this is polyakov in particular. poland is preparing for war and it is obvious that the americans are also preparing poland for war. poland has no money to buy that mass armaments, this money is external, they have, in my opinion, a deficit of 10 billion dollars. poland is being prepared for the role, the second uh of the second row of cannon and even, most likely, nuclear fodder, because that's against such an amount of equipment. there are tanks, howitzer fighters. it can only work tactical nuclear weapons, in my opinion. how might it look? we now imagine absolutely nothing, even if alcohol is all, this is what you are talking about somehow it’s gone russia will hit more with a nuclear baton, and then russia is enough in this far. again, in the past of our program, there were suggestions that it might not be a war with russia at all, but a war, poland with europe's neighbors. yes, including this, it was even

more difficult to believe than in the war. well, i’m for the sake of completeness of the picture, because ruin you see, even here the task is to remember who attracted the germans, for example, they are afraid of this, not poland anymore, the germans believe that this is directed against them, maybe so on, but in conflict in germany and poland i am now. well, i don't see any serious preconditions for this conflict. if some kind of hard one is blown. uh, such a really massive anti -german hysteria no, of course, there is more of a huge reparation for a minute, but basically it 's still anti-russian hysteria. poland granite cheats with russia do not forget about the kaliningrad enclave. yes, poland is a threat to belarus, where our troops are also moving very intensively now. we must remember e squeals. sorry, this is no propaganda stamp. this is what mr. dududa actually was when he shouted at ivan and lexus already and i don’t want to fight russians squealed. there just said yesterday with us

let's not have one moment one moment, only if the older one is ordered, if they give, if the older one, well, let's proceed from the fact that there really is a tangle of interests. everyone has their own interests all with each other, like spiders in a jar. and it's perfectly normal it's nothing so extraordinary next. i think that duda sincerely said that he does not want war with russia and for him this is really a nightmare, because that he absolutely does not want poland to be completely destroyed or at least partially destroyed, but the poles understand perfectly well. here, for some reason, polyakov presents us as some kind of not quite sane people, the polish rut. they understand the situation very well. they understand that the world around them is changing rapidly and to this

to these changes. you need to be ready. what changes can be? maybe now russia, from their point of view, can be defeated in the case from the point of view. yes. yes, maybe russia will succeed a strategic defeat, as mr. biden announced, maybe from their point of view, you need to be ready for this. if this happens, then we need a good army, so that we can immediately capture belarus without any fear. e part of ukraine and so on, if a catastrophe occurs in russia further, if this does not happen, but, on the contrary, it collapses, e, ukraine, then again the army and forces are needed to enter the territory of western ukraine. the more i go. i think i also heard it not only here, because it was heard in the words of the president of russia when he said that there are lands on the territory of ukraine

that were hmm taken away from poland, hungary and romania opa means they accepted that in an emergency russia will not particularly return, says igor sergeevich, in any outcome , it turns out that poland has it, right? yes, i, how to pump up a little more, the third option, which also should not be forgotten. they are well aware that germany is now heading for dominance. i always say that they are heading for the fourth reich, which was stated recently literally by the gentleman scholz, whom he likes to call liverny sausage. he said that we now have economic leadership in europe. we have, uh, political leadership in europe, and germany should become the guarantor of europe's military security, that is, he wrote. he wrote. yes, absolutely right. yes, he

wrote his big program article. these are military claims. of course, the poles did not hear this. very well heard. they are well aware that part of their territory. the same scholz and all the other germans sincerely consider their territory, so they need these tanks, until we asked alexander nikolaevich from them. what do you say like this, as if we see three options, three layouts and, with all of them, he wants to profit from something more. no, uh no. no, he's planning to save his western lands. and i think we got very excited. eh, both in the studio and on a tedious level, but in his dreams he splits and conflicts uh inside uh russian foreign policy opponents. here is the eu in conflict germany poland is in conflict and poland is building up its armed forces to someday face germany and with mine

obligations, everything is a little simpler, i remember my own. unfortunately, the article turned out to be completely erroneous. e, written somewhere in the tenth of february. and where did i write that it is extremely unlikely that the military alarm will end with real military actions and even more so with military actions initiated by russia wait how did you write this? you have been telling us all the time that this is inevitable, history will be no but i said yes, but nonetheless. here it is specifically. yes, i was there to order. no, not in the sense of the result. and in the sense yes so, and i wrote, why am i now remembering this, what is the connection here, because the poles are talking about this. they remember very well, they remember very well, who and at what time, uh, crossed the border, he is

russophobic, as about fear, then you can, of course, be afraid of heights or bees or something else, but, but in order to understand the sensations eastern europeans, but it is necessary to recall their own feeling of the vast majority of this people, and about june 22, the forty-first year, by the way, quite a lot of years have passed. you are hinting at our such there was no war. this this is called the organs of everything, therefore, well, wow it goes. and can i feel there are no poles, based on the time they will lead alexander nikolayevich, but he says, in any case, it won’t hurt, and polish sociology regarding who they are not afraid of, who they sympathize with, there was a report. it is quite large called one name. in general , enough, but we are poles for ukraine but against ukrainians, there are 55 pages. this document was prepared by polish sociologists and says

that the poles can no longer withstand the onslaught, frankly insolent ukrainians, to whom a priori everyone owes people, well, it just infuriates when ukrainians with a clear conscience refuse to pay in a cafe and a bar and in a beauty salon in a pharmacy in a hospital and openly declare that they pay for all their whims should be more. now the poles, tired of such impudence, have fears that the generously supported refugees will not want to return to their country even after the onset of peace and will eventually take away jobs and enjoy all the social joys of the polish states are not citizens. what unites the middle and working class poles surveyed is this strong aversion to ukrainians, spontaneously expressed in all focus groups, the poles are concerned that now the priority in access to health care and education, as well as to benefits, is rather with the ukrainians. now the refugees are accused of getting what patiently waiting poles

can only dream of, a place in a nursery or a kindergarten , an appointment with a specialist, a close date for the operation, but alexander nikolayevich is for ukraine, but against ukrainians. this is also some kind of phobia. it 's not a phobia. it's not. it's not a phobia, it's absolutely a reality. it's just that the poles have not encountered before the family waves of migrants that they encountered there in germany, france, for example, was not allowed in. in addition, yes, she worked in other countries, moreover, they are not and that they are not happy. they can go to poland, where they now have a new law. it’s right there, they can get everything there in ukraine itself, yes, the poles at least work, at least choose. uh, get elected over there, that's even what changes in places is that i have hierarchical thinking, and i build a hierarchy of peoples and countries, but, nevertheless, the foundations of this hierarchy, but lie on the surface. eh, the country is higher, the

more people go to it, and the lower in this hierarchy. the less they want to go there. i don't know, now not a single nikolaevich of course, that's one of you. it sometimes rushes straight, well, fascism and what and what and here, that is, here in your hierarchy, as if that's why it explains the relationships that you would like to live and work. i don't mean in this case fight. but, uh, that means, uh, in ukraine, and i know a huge number of ukrainians who today live in poland, and i say that there is nothing surprising in this sociology and there is no sociology, if we recall that there are difficult relations between ukrainians and poles, which last not one up, in addition, the poles, in general , treat the ukrainians as a really people, which in this hierarchy is below the task of the ukrainians - it is to work, as a barrier against

russia and for social benefits. e, polyakov oni of course, and chekhov should not encroach on poland in the czech republic yes, most of all they accepted migrants. well, both of them consider ukrainians to be such uncouth distant relatives, in the case of the poles, who also have to work. if they are against russia, then they can be supported with the soul, for now, for now. they are in their basement. yes, yes to us only in limited quantities that you poked us to the phone. well i loop a lot, if in order. and then, firstly, poland, of course, is preparing for hostilities on its territory. e your new territory they are considering. you understand, please, that the poles are in the last few years. well, 10 years, probably, maybe a little more invested a lot of money. in ukraine, creating there, as it were, about the polish political space, not

only in ukraine in general, in principle, in uh, a little strange between poland, let's say, and russia, and these investments. they just don't want to throw it away, so if they go in there, we won't say. so only on the condition that everything will crumble there, it will never happen again, but attack and squeeze fortunately for ukraine until the kiev regime crumbles. otherwise, there will not be very big problems with the americans and the europeans on this matter. so, when everything is done, the poles will pick it up, they are preparing and correctly. in general, here they make the second point about ah, the poles and the ukrainians, well, again, here everything was absolutely correct in the report. that is, as it were, e ukraine, e, polish, the press of the ops well, in the sense of national, not local. the most important place. it writes as it is. but what about western european we didn't talk about suffering ukrainians, a pole sees ukrainians in front of him. he

actually hears it from the cars when they suddenly arrived in israel, some with ukrainian names. and this has always been good , it is certainly of great importance and bandarization and incidents with hotels and on the great strain on the labor market and on the rental housing market. how does it happen in the czech republic the same? yes , therefore, in principle, this is a natural process and the more eastward the polish lands are, the more other processes there are. we now break off. yes let's consider a few minutes after the break and the people of the week in the central television of the washington regional committee give the go-ahead to the ripe house no longer against ukraine striking russian territory. well, who said that such a ban existed in nature at all? elon musk and the last internet free speech crusade what political game is the eccentric billionaire playing? and most importantly, whose

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becomes clear. we continue. and i would like to suggest to really look at a slightly different process, which is possible, again, uh. hmm . well, not just the day before. it's already been there for several days, like a certain period, but supposedly. uh, normalization of relations between russia and georgia that there is evidence. to be honest, i'm in this story, although hmm himself was reading it now. well, i can't take this as evidence that moscow, tbilisi and tbilisi are ready to meet each other a little bit . and the first thing they say is that direct flights will be restored now. as you know, yes, he threw up his hands there. how many years? we no longer have. i even did four, it was definitely there for a short time, then there was a recovery. yes, and then

no again. well, let's see our material. at on monday, the kommersant newspaper reported that russia and georgia are discussing with might and main the possibility of resuming air traffic, which was interrupted 3 years ago at the initiative of moscow due to waves of anti-russian speeches by georgians. since tbilisi is now demonstrating a neutral position on the conflict in ukraine and is not yielding to pressure from the west, direct flights can be returned, and at the same time, our foreign ministry hinted at canceling visas introduced back in 2000, with regard to the prospects for the resumption of direct flights and visa liberalization in relation to citizens of georgia, then in the case of the formation of the necessary prerequisites for this, the conditions in tbilisi are well known, we do not exclude the adoption of decisions. on this account, the georgians did not impose sanctions against russia, they help ukraine moderately, and they also do not let russian oppositionists in. in particular, they denied entry to the editor of the podcasts of the inogent meduza, alexei ponomarev, and the son of agent tamara and delman

and agent, already dmitry alishkov. for some reason, for some reason, they let another one in on agent dmitry bykov, having previously arranged a 5-hour interrogation for him on the border. economic direct exchange of communication with russia by a georgian is profitable for tbilisi could become a transit hub. along with minsk, istanbul and yerevan, georgia has brought a massive influx of russians for permanent residence in recent months, as many as 113,000 people have arrived. this revived the local real estate market, the volume of remittances from russia has grown sharply, plus russians have opened thousands of new companies in georgia, in particular in the it sector. and these are tens of thousands of new jobs. they have purchased over 3,000 properties. all these jokes were introduced gradation of migrants, from military visitors to the last deviationists. for example, they make a clear distinction between the februarys who left their homeland in protest against the war and the septembers who fled from mobilization, however, despite the

influx of russians there is no talk of restoring the direct weight of the message until experts believe that such a decision is primarily political and accept it for the current government of irakli gribashvili? positions so blamed for pro-putin politics will be very difficult. we know that moscow is considering the issue of simplifying the visa regime for citizens of a number of countries, including georgia in this regard. we remind you that back in 2011, georgia abolished the visa regime for russian citizens. as for the restoration of direct flights, this issue is not on our agenda now. so is it possible to believe that the relationship between, uh, russia and georgia will be well, on such a countermovement relationship, well, i don’t know europe and russia america and russia bogdana anatolyevich e. you know what is happening in georgia right now, i just see process, e word new with dravization, like the word sound, that is, poisoning. yes, here the point is not

that health is increasing, common sense is slowly beginning to be squeezed out. everything else is a political passion, or something else. accordingly , some. well, listen, many times we have come across the fact that it’s like someone and it’s not against showing common sense, but he’s not allowed to do it, and in general, well, what is georgia? well, a small country is also not god, what economic muscles it has, and she'll be like this now front. and here, in this case, it is specifically saved by the fact that it is now in the deep periphery in relation to the centers that make the decision, so poland is on the edge on the frontis. now they are arming it, and georgia is the periphery. therefore, it is up to the time. it endures there. well, i have no doubt that if this policy is now, uh, georgia will intensively develop, if this process of healing after the poisoning of relations, it will be intensified, then the conflict will also be unfrozen there and in the network and in abkhazia they will create some

conditions for internal troubles and this derebashvili. he will also retire in the same way as they did, many times in front of him, just as he went when you need a sheward, as if they had overthrown their neighbor, they will not honor these examples, and this will be in general. it is quite within the framework of that policy to establish this sanitary equestrian belt around you, please specify. if a second, if , like this, in the picture of the world that bogdan doltovich has just outlined for us, this country is on the periphery, that is, it is, as it were, deprived of it now a little attention to care, then it's time to do something. that's all then i'll explain. these friends are the reign of common sense. it would be so wonderful, if there were no transfers from russia of all kinds of it specialists, if it were not for all this, you create significant funds that our compatriots bring there or somehow there. the fact is that, firstly, it specialists are static. they are there, and not only in georgia in armenia in our

union, they brought down a number of markets there and the locals suffer somewhat from this, but georgia definitely spoke out against the sanctions against russia even before all these massive things, because the economy. we are under sanctions, but even though they are not under sanctions, they still have the economy. so , worse than any sanctions, in addition, georgia many times appealed to the european union in relation to them, even symbolic steps were not taken. you are on the periphery sitting there when you are needed. we will throw you into the furnace and we will throw something in the form of a bone, like alexey alekseevich and i think that we are talking about healthy pragmatism here, georgia long since her new leadership. for a long time they have been looking for, uh, common points of contact. with the russian side, there is still one small nuance here, which is not yet very well known to the general public, but the fact is that the united states of america has begun to staff its visa departments with new employees. in any case, this is work in progress. and this means that the united states of america is already going to get out of that period of relations with russia when visa-visa relations are actually

absorbing events, i do not take offense at the negotiations underway it is not. we know this, so i'm not worried. it's a long -term perspective. alexei if the georgians are really, as you say, they are looking for contact. and we somehow react in some other way. we know about this, that they are looking for content, we will probably respond, why, if they want normalization of relations the fact is that georgia needs it much more than russia, because for them this is a matter of economic survival, really restoration of ties with russia but not to the extent that is important to load the end in itself of the policy of russia's economic policy towards georgia in recent years , that was the goal, to move georgia closer to us, so that they look at what it is like in life without russia, in isolation from russia, think about it. and perhaps something corrected their reason no longer. well, you see, it’s obvious that look at the position

, over the past 9 months, no country has achieved an official position, which used to take a tough anti-russian position under saakashvili on all practical issues today, over the past nine months. he is silent, all on his own, no sanctions, georgia has not imposed any sanctions against russia in the international arena over the past 9 months, has not called for any anti-russian demarches, personally said that the driver is collecting no sanctions. it's not easy to get lost. yes, moreover, and the russians, despite the fact that georgian citizens cannot come to russia without a regime without a visa. they need to have a section of interests at the swiss e-consulate in tbilisi of a section of russian interests. that's where they should apply for visas. it's pretty i was in georgia a few years ago at the round table. and the participants complained, including those who were there, that this visa regime is very inconvenient for them.

they would like russia to go forward in this. why is georgia behaving like this now, because it is they who are counting on the fact that russia will meet halfway on the visa regime, that russia will resume. and this is beneficial for the resumption of air traffic of a new air corridor in these conditions, when russia already has few of these air corridors for russia, it can be, please, what prevents us from making reciprocal steps. we can assume, wait, we can assume that if the current trends in relations between tbilisi and moscow persist, then russia may still have to wait. perhaps even next year, georgia would also like the resumption of the full diplomatic presence of russia in tbilisi, not at the level of a section of interest, but the opening of reality. i believe that russia is certainly interested in detente relations with georgia are an extra window for us to communicate with the outside world, it is very, very

important now that they are trying to arrange a blockade around us, which i completely agree with the fact that hmm the georgian leadership is demonstrating miracles of sanity. this is fact and pragmatism. zma and here i would pay attention to what just sounded. the american factor, you quite rightly asked the question. but so small and suddenly so independent from the fact that they forgot about her. that's all they remember. and here it is, yes i don't remember this one. this is rather strange. this means that the united states, based on its own considerations, allowed georgia to now pursue the same sensible policy that if the united states now wanted an aggravation of the ossetian conflict on the territory of georgia, i.e., the abkhaz south of the ossetian conflict. they would have paid attention to all

the pressures, they are pressing on those who are being pressured, but they decided georgia. quite right. they didn't. no, they left a window for possible, but all sorts of compromises. and what was just said about, uh, the consular department etc. please note that, unlike the european union, which is simply going ahead, it declares russia a terrorist country, and declares that it will soon, that is, it launches the process of creating a tribunal in order to monitor today, you probably read. yes, they said that it is not possible for them to agree so far, it is simply going on. what the united states is doing from the tribunal. they abstained from being recognized as terrorists. they eliminated as the leader of the western world leave positions for possible agreements with russia, in contrast to the european union there is evidence. biden, saw the bike broke. no, he fell no before the words there was

some kind of childish garbage. well, christmas, probably, so the gifts of the box, and he took a child’s bike just like that and the steering wheel. he either wanted to twist it. in general, he pulled out of it did not take it away. no, he couldn't put it back. in general, he left everything there. so the problems are different. well, but we have a minute left, which means it’s good, then, in order, the restoration of deep relations between russia and georgia depends only on georgia. there was a decision, tbilisi and tbilisi to refuse to restore until the decision of the poll of the southern network of abkhazia, and the restoration of the type of relations is out of the question regarding, uh, liberalization of the visa regime on our part. this should have been done many years ago, this is purely our initiative. and when our dear a staff member of the foreign ministry says that tbilisi must do something there. this is nonsense, complete no one should do anything. this is exclusively our initiative and, a third point, about air traffic. it is too. and it should be before everything from our side, because i remind you that we

interrupted it due to, among other things, the strange behavior, to put it mildly, of one of our deputies. you are my position. you know, it was his fault. in general, do you think that it is already somehow necessary here, because it is necessary to change in a normal situation. we must reward good behavior and punish it. and what prevents us from doing this is that we do not have good time, first of all, our lack of understanding of the importance of normalizing georgia's relations is a ground for us. this is where we end up with today, with external political issues, by tradition, we turn to problems inside. supermarket deliver a holiday new year's mask

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fugitives that it is better in the homeland? about it straight now. the meeting place on ntv is the place where everything becomes clear and we continue according to the already established tradition. uh, now the second hour, and we will devote the program to, uh, internal issues. this topic has repeatedly appeared on the air. this is patriotic education. how should we do it? on what basis using? what kind of information, what way, and there are several sentences hmm that have appeared recently and have already begun to grow into some kind of visual form. so the first thing you need is an operation for patriotic education, and the rising generation. still, of course, this is about these people in the first place, that the

teacher is older than my age of patriotism. so you need an operation on some historical characters, maybe even fictional, maybe it should be folklore, the second direction is a-a people who are our contemporaries and perform some kind of heroic deeds. here, first of all, we are talking about participants in a special military operation. and surely you have already seen in your cities, definitely now, in my opinion, everywhere there are huge banners there glory to the hero of russia necessarily some specific person name surname rank and the third direction. so here, uh, you have to try. to form this patriotism, and on the basis of some scientific , technical, industrial, and, to a lesser extent, cultural achievements of our country. i would describe it this way. now let's. so i said that the first experience of visualizing these proposals appears. indeed, there are already several

aviation commercials, but something represents in my sight interest. let's here we are with them. let's start. the man left remained on his conscience, the leaving is unknown, there are only 20,000 views, and in the comments there are competitions in the island. touched to the core, returned the ticket, went to the store for armor and an airsoft helmet. and where are the guarantees that those who helped do not fly away on the evening flight urges to sign up for the volunteers to become a real man, such a video in it, the creators put pressure on pragmatism. after all, the participants of the special operation are entitled to a lot of goodies from the state. sasha rejoiced. now his patch, which he had dreamed of before, a new profession, new friends, colors,

free growth, treatment for his family and benefits from the state. as well as the status of a combat veteran , which means respect sasha well done, be like sasha another patriotic example was the eight-year-old boy alyosha, who lives in a village near belgorod, he became famous thanks to a video in which he greeted a cold armored vehicle heading to ukraine with a military greeting, the video instantly became viral , and the image of the boy turned into a real symbol, posters appeared with his image of toys, belgorod confectioners. they even made chocolate. alyoshka then runs such a hat, but they also offer to equal the fighters of the dude wagner about their important role in the special operation in ukraine, the feature film best in hell tells in detail about their important role in the special operation in ukraine, the military action movie was shot extremely

realistically, the shooting took place in the immediate vicinity of the hostilities, and the singer vika tsyganova who herself has been to the donbass more than once released a clip last month of valnerites bravely defending homeland. smychka, well, you see, there are different ones, uh, they picked it up. ah, campaign options roman mikhailovich what works what doesn't work in my opinion? here, without being listed, firstly , a good production works, that is, it’s coolly done. here it is. e video with a departure to georgia, why then only 20,000 views are enough virality and scandals, that is, there is little discussion around this video, for example, it would be possible to find out whether this person, as an actor, for example, really left which seemed to have remained the roller itself. he is like he completed it well, but not completed, as if the

promotion is correct, well, in principle, at the level, it gives rise to a lot of meaning, that is, the person who leaves him, as it were, has money, and the people who stay have something the other is more money, as it were implied here. here, in principle, the only discussion is clear. maybe not everyone stuck with the right comments there. and here are some, and backstages, perhaps, they also usually enjoy popularity. and so, in general, production is at the level here this video, which describes all sorts of social benefits that a person can be, yes gone, yes there will be? like sasha yes. and what kind of image of a defender is this video trying to present, because when i looked, i got the impression that it was more about some benefits and about money and about something else, they are about protecting the motherland. i’m just that, if it works, that is you know there in the american fleets and you will

travel all over the planet. they try how to say something to the person. that's what you want in this way to turn out right? yes, but strangely enough. that's it this video with e, not very good sales compared to the first one that we saw, but i saw it loaded. completely different channels and they just criticized him, but this gave him coverage and just the same people who didn’t look at public services looked at him where they didn’t expect to see him, and the match inside is clear that there are buns and so on such e do something good. in the sense as a work of such advertising or concentrate on promotion. it doesn't matter at all what to sit and work together we own aleksandrovich how does it work? yes, for sure now here, uh, i do not know the war, but you must remember. i don't remember when, uh, well, quite a long time ago, with colleagues. they were already called the first channels, there was a whole series of commercials. this is social advertising. yes, dima called there , that's all, where tabakov and efremov were riding in a trolley bus, people still remember these videos.

although it would seem like a difference, they are for all the good against all the bad nothing special. no well sunk a lot of very talent. that's what people do anyway. here it is necessary to pay attention, then, to quality. of course, this video. no look. here's another when you showed, for some reason you forgot, i'm russian, there were millions of views and this is probably one of the shaman's most clips of course. yes, of course, we have not already talked about him. it's been around for a long time. we are now something new. in general, already eaten. you understand, uh, a video is not, uh, an end in itself, the task of ours is not to make a video today, and to influence the audience, to influence the audience, you need a system for this, there is a whole science built up long ago, and here it is our elizabeth of the americans. they are brilliant to enjoy. they're in the pentagon. there is a big deal. they took it for themselves . er, the name of strategic communications

is a huge amount of money being invested in it. they attracted very talented people. and that's all we get here to us propaganda. this is being done by those forces. they rely on public organizations primarily and at the expense of these public organizations. they e go to all the same similar organizations, for some reason there are no links in this chain so that we can do it in exactly the same way, in my opinion, during the e great patriotic war, stalin created e in a few years and after, such a propagandist. this is the most special body. e for propaganda and agitation, where alexander was the head of alexandrov, this is not academician alexandrov, but another alexandrov, so they were attributed to them. uh, such power that they, if they needed the voice of malenkov. they called him to them, and he said, they worked very systematically. they, uh, shared like a

vozheno, that is, some kind of rampa went to say in a fragment that we do not have enough state serious people who are engaged in this. thanks to them, this is the only thing that suddenly arises for us, but we do it all. in such snatches, even to show it, it’s piece by piece, that is, we have someone in it, that it’s much more effective today for these videos, it would just be aleksey gennadievich to show the heroes of his real guys who are there, who return from them human territory there is a lot of history there. here is what hangs on the poster and not everyone will click. not everyone will look at it to do it with a cool one, as they say, it will be beautiful to shoot beautifully and show it beautifully in my opinion. maybe i'm wrong 100 times more motivating to something than here are video pictures cartoons fictional stories. i'm ivan e. sergeevich absolutely agrees with you. most of all,

personal history is sold. well, no matter how cynical it may sound personal personal is excellent, the story told. it will always be sold, but in the sense of winning , winning attention, but also the interests and interests of the audience, but here the question is different. how to submit this story? and who should do it? i absolutely agree with po that, and now it is even more lacking. e professionals in the field of a foreign advertising agency that did really cool ads. there is no need to underestimate them. high professionals worked there, so to speak, not fools, they came up with cool videos that worked and affected all audiences. she promoted maybe another sign is working. and you are here a lot. yes, that's how it is on a mercedes. here, too, i agree. when did you see that? here 's a cool commercial, so you can say, in general, that is, i don't watch and i don't remember. ok then. okay, you know, what a great commercial, but it's actually a totally anti-war movie dude. so i looked at it, there is the best

water. better water is better water. these are absolutely anti-war - more anti-war pictures. i have not seen, but from the point of view. we are now impacting the audience on the guys who like to say so, but this militarizi. and the topic is shown in great detail, everything is shown very cool, u two words about, uh, advertising public services from my point of view on the impact in terms of impact on the audience with whom we communicate with the consumer. it works great, but from the point of view. i did not like some kind of robot there somehow with whom they communicate. they communicate with twenty-year-old guys who need to be attracted to them. they're using an existing meme that's easy to understand for be like sasha that's right. and when she will show a businessman who is leaving and loafers who during the day why they sit on a bench near the entrance and they stay i have a question, but they must be uh, there i don’t know that they are at school or are busy with something. interesting, i have

another question. and with these videos we can attract people to patriotism and patriotic feelings, because i, how they look, that there are two, if the person has already been set up, if all this comes to him. he says he is already patriotic . he doesn't need these videos. but like this, so that a person would somehow be borderline or even look towards georgia, he watched this video and somehow his heart sank, and he abruptly changed his shoes. it seems to me that this does not work, taking into account two water. i'm sorry. so first it must be done done done. there is talented talent, and the second really should be some kind of state representation, all this should not be given away. this is how i see it. i so all this somehow should be done by a single strategy. you know that all, uh, the videos should be under one carbon copy, but then, that it should be thought out and work for different groups with different ones. uh, at the moment motivating. it 's accurate and talented. definitely relevant. uh, can a video make a patriot? yes, of course not,

a person becomes a patriot only when he grew up in a patriotic environment, when he absorbed love for his motherland with his mother’s milk, when he, for example, history, for example, will watch it. eh, that's it, there will be time. its a real blunt move, but you know i want to. here is one example to give. uh, just recently telegram-channel i came across a picture. at first i didn’t even understand what it was about because you were flipping through it. yes, there is not always time, carefully read the picture, where i realized that this is gastello's feat and then i realized that this is not a picture from the great patriotic war and that this is just an event with wagner pmc with two of our heroes, who were handed over yesterday . uh, the bodies that were handed over, and with great respect, were handed over to us. do you remember them, uh, their coffins were covered with flags and, accordingly, banner pmcs, here at this moment. i have goosebumps on my back. i realized that these events, when they simply

cause amazement, and they make you not only think, but simply stand up and say our heroes here and now , real patriotism is brought up on such examples. i am sure that the guys of young boys will always respond to this feat in their souls. and then, if you repeat it once again, do it talentedly, unobtrusively, it will give the very results that we are talking about, well, or do it with something so that young people are hooked, because we have boris not to use tragedy all the time as uh starting point. you have already come to us and said that they don’t know how to talk with young people, they film everything for grandparents there. and you need it, as you know, and even filmed a russian vape video, which they actually cited as an example. come on, we also watched this video, we will show it to the audience in ours, and then give you the floor. let's keep your finger on the pulse, soon we'll come for that to sit on the drum. you do not like it was said, be patient beauty, don’t judge if your nose doesn’t concern you, russia doesn’t

fall apart for you, the union understands different classes, different faces, rivers, lakes, fields of capitals. this is our home, how not proud, i'm something not very old. i am 35 years old. but what does it motivate, tell me , first of all, what i wanted to say, the author says. well, probably, in my opinion, the author says there in russian, no, well, for example, i didn’t understand anything by ear. okay, fine. let me tell you then i chew the attack and you, but the song this track says that our country is the best a country. we are a multinational country. we are not an owl. we're falling apart won't be burgers. it is necessary not to scare us and so on you will analyze the text. you look at a lot of slang there, which is possible, most likely, even i am sure that you will not understand, in general, this is our house, bitch, how not to be proud? it's like so what? oh super should motivate. yes, well, you will notice this track, well, i practically noticed it. yes, i advise you simply, probably, so as not to argue. yes,

they don’t join the garda for a long time with you, uh, motivates it or not, read the comments there and believe me the comments will surprise you, because here is what the videos have shown us before, of course, this is a funny dude here who is leaving in a mercedes and really the guys who are sitting on the bench are not doing anything. you look like such an old woman. they picked it up, you think like that, bitch, the old woman fell down, you need to raise it, you think like that, like, grandma thinks like that. that's what people with money? oh no. well, i'm trying to understand him, that's all. those feelings, actually i'm not kidding. yes and how did grandma come here? well, listen to this video clip. here it is filmed well. production in terms of shooting, good semantic load is as stupid as possible. well, the dude who is bad is really stupidly filmed, here he is bad, he is driving a mercedes, he is leaving for georgia and the boys, here they are sitting. such grandmothers help, and you have everything sharp removed. here. well, you probably have it all from the beginning to the end. look read the comments. look right. why do i need

comments? show why other people people. what matters to me is what i think is not a question for you. we do. we do for you we do for that then generation, which, in principle, does not watch this program, wait a minute, i'm one and a half million, they really watched our 2 m. i do not argue. you, you know, i say, one and a half millions anyway. we even looked at how you say, good comments. i didn't go into the comments. i honestly looked from the beginning to the end, but after the comments, my question. and what they looked like, it prompted them somehow to be proud of the better side to go somewhere, and so they just liked funny edited videos with text, where there is a little about obscene vocabulary. you liked it purely in fact, there are even obscene ones. yes, we are not cited there are actually a lot of comments. e. so, in general, i understand, yes, you know the problem, what kind of problem i come here, you do not let me finish. you are constantly interrupting . and we have this one. maybe i'd better go

then. well, you see how you are together quickly quickly so that i don’t shut up people’s mouths. you are used to only when you agree with the dispute is born in the dialogue when i try something say, and you shut my mouth. don't spoil it. the mouth is not closed here. you know how i can plug the runes, and the problem. i mean, okay, that means problems. i see, let's, i'm now explaining that these videos, which before that are actually the only video of all that have shown this one before, where the buns are shown. what kind of person can earn goodies, because young people in general, to be honest, there are few people here, how much i communicate, few people understand what we were doing there, because the border they didn’t come here, few people understand, and against the background of the soviet union, the ideology of the soviet union that we are fighting the germans. it 's also very questionable so you will shoot a video that will explain what we're doing there. so i myself, in an understandable, accessible language with words, i don’t really understand myself, i understand that we had a

problem that there is no understanding of how to talk to different audiences. very age. well, because no. well, who because you do not hear me. i categorically do not accept what you are saying now, i can hear you. and you say, no, you don't understand young man. let's not fight here anymore. is there an opportunity to come up with, wait a minute elena you will understand. why are we there just one went in the eye. i was there and i have a lot of people. everything around, just now is at war, boys. i understand what they are doing there. and you don’t understand that they are earning money. do you really think that they are going for the flag, or something. so, is there any idea that it is possible to create a certain, but such an informational propaganda product, which will be understandable and which will be accepted by absolutely everyone by everyone. it's probably not possible, but it's worth striving for. it all depends on what tasks you are.

bet. let's distinguish between both understanding of such patriotic education and propaganda. you see, we had very active examples of propaganda in the nineties, for example, this notorious one right? yes, no, yes, yeah, it's pretty rough , but it hits the brain because it sounded from every iron or ninety-sixth company. yeltsin vote or lose. she was wildly primitive. she was absolutely here, and she was very rudely hatted. this is called propaganda. here is level zero mournful rudeness. just fears was it was. it frankly worked. in which country does it work quite effectively, do you understand? if we are talking now, then you know. we remember well, the motherland poster is calling. yes and if we were there given in those days, but relatively speaking, move the comments. you know, would it be there now? oh yes, where does she call, that she just broadcast from every wall and did her job. so i'll tell you, as far as the boys left, the men stayed, if this video were played again, on each channel every 30 minutes from

each iron, it would perform a certain function. if it is somewhere out there and someone comments on it, this is not propaganda. this is some kind of video that someone made for their own purpose. by the way, i don’t agree with you, it’s very interesting to talk about what it means, so i know, there nobody understands. these zababs are different people and they think that, for example, you know all the russian youth perfectly, imagine about them, but this is also strange, just like you say that the impact of this program is what people are watching here. i'll just remind you that one danish citizen who left is milokhin. he, of course, loosened up. but, when he entered the federal channels, his popularity grew like this, so the effectiveness of parents to understand that you are very unacceptable to other people's opinions and think that you are the truth in the last resort, in my opinion, they started, and i’ll tell you more, please, the boys are fifteen-year-old football players who carry out patriotic actions, because they have a normal coach and they perfectly understand why we are fighting there and with whom the soldiers are there, therefore good. tell me, you

know so well, yes, for what we are fighting there, we are choking on nazism. how does nazism sense some kind of person? wait. give me and let me ask you a question, what do you like to interrupt like that. with what kind of nazism do you want to say that all of ukraine is all impregnated, all ukrainians, nazis, or what? i'm telling you, you want to say that the third reich was on the tail 100%. where did the 6 million go then, who voted in the thirty-third year in the thirty -second for the communist party of germany, this does not mean that 100% of ukrainians are nazis, there is such a concept as dictatorship. i can tell you a lot about dictatorships, doctor, that we are fighting nazism. yes? that is, no matter how i judge mine. by the way, i am one of those people who were supported. here, i'm just trying you don't you see, i started to support mine after i saw how our boys were brought down there. and what do they do with them after that? and i just

explain that we have, uh, dicta. that is, we have a nazi regime here. yes, you, they, you speak zelensky and we said, yes, we say why they don’t understand me for then it doesn’t reach. why are we fighting with the ukrainians, they are fighting, why are they not eliminating the perception then such a question is why, destroying the paulus army near stalingrad, we fought the germans, they fought with adolf hitler this is some very strange balcony. no, this is the normal approach. but you can’t answer that one small i apologize andrey nikolaevich why, dear darius borisovich, is everything? well, then, we also have certain rules, including the rules for conducting a discussion well, huh? what i just said or not. this is a very big problem. now, just please try to

listen. yes, i do not want to offend or insult you there, but you are really very sure of your own rightness. and no matter what base, in general, you do not have enough. so you want us to explain all this to you now, we will not do this. we because for this program today heard on the air. when i said, uh, alexey gennadievich, what cool video can he remember? i now suddenly remembered after a replica or what, i recently heard it on the radio several times already, but an enchanting video. so, he is talking about some residential complex in moscow, which is now over there, well, they are selling it. and there is some kind of garden. well, here's something about the garden, the name of the text will not be literally quoted like this, but when i heard it, i really almost crashed, which means that the car is in front, if the irony boss and would say now, yes, then his pleasure garden would be at the address and here here, because here are all

pleasures. here is a child's delight. so, here is a pleasure for athletes, because there is more. the pipe was sticking out somewhere, right? when i heard this, i just freaked out. damn, these are the people, that is, firstly, who makes this ad. secondly, who hosted this ad, who put it out. yes, the people who put this ad on the radio. they don't have any idea what they're talking about . so this is the ultimate truth, so vladimir hiv you are still grinning, mustache, quietly sad at the same time, look, in fact, no matter how you criticize bird, but he i don’t criticize him , too, he handed over the entire base to you, then what . uh, there was a discussion going on here. it didn't sound. just the main thing is any work that is directed to for any audience, whether it be an adult or even a youth audience, it should evoke an emotion, it is right that it is desirable that you put it in it, this is not the problem, you understand. he says that i don’t understand him, he does it for a different audience. and

it seems to me that it is necessary that all audiences be covered. but it turns out that he just said, he just said that he began to support after he saw a video that aroused in him an emotion of fear of horror, or even after that his consciousness switched to work like that need exactly with this. how to do it next? here , let's take a specific example. if there was a video about draft dodgers, but briefly, they are directly dismantling it. what the hell, the hero who leaves for georgia makes me sympathize with the admiration of the beautiful. the bastard is a good latent homosexual vladimirovich, he also has a wife there, a beautiful woman , there’s not a hell of it, he crushes, either a tangerine, or an orange crushes the symbol of georgia citrus fruits in general such sound here. and now, you just understand. here, clinging to one symbol after another, this one causes

sympathy, gives pressure, it is a symbol of georgia at the same time we must experience the feeling of the educator. fuck those who left. they see grapes as a symbol of georgia in general. how are they called, and thieves in law from georgia how like some kind of knowledge, huh? come on, we have everything, mikhail borisovich, but we have time to leave. well, let's talk more. the lieutenant colonel and i are also developing it.

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a place where everything becomes clear, but continue at the end of the previous block. andrey vladimirovich demanded an answer, that if some video is in some video space, that everyone can like it. so i ask, is it possible for me to run everything completely? that's what everyone understood, it was clear to everyone, and it seems to everyone that the president 's instruction regarding the popularization of the heroes of russian history, folklore - this is probably about this, so that everyone, young and old, understands, it means about this population. what should be these heroes recognizable and consistent with traditional prices? let's get a look. historians complained to the president about the lack of patriotic characters in the media space a month ago. as an alternative to american superheroes , russians were offered instead of batman and superman by dmitry donskoy and alexander nevsky why there are no board games in kindergartens in advance, wherever

our huge country is, where you can understand the scale of the territory, uh, the scale of the front line, where you can know about kulikovo battle? oh, and dmitry donskoy about alexander nevsky, this needs to be done from kindergarten, characters from our folklore or the history of popular culture, they really don’t use it so often, but if you really look for something you can find, the tretyakov gallery , together with your brand, released clothes with images of paintings by vasnetsov and vrubel on them is ivan tsarevich, a gray wolf, a swan princess and a firebird. in the meantime, the bogatyrs remain the most popular characters in russia, a series of cartoons about them with them has been released since 2004. currently producing three more feature films in one of them, ilya muromets will be a cyborg of love, russians, heroes, art critics, we all remember the simple explanation, er, household items that have surrounded us since childhood. and including viktor vasnetsov and fairy tales from his epic and folklore

series, including the three bogatyrs, which we saw both on carpets on the walls and on sweets. and here is the example of an artist on a pack of cigarettes. it has always been with us. it's a very interesting idea that you yourself don't realize it. we were surrounded by these fabulous images - it has always been with us. this has always been part of our cultural code. the writer roman antonovsky offers no ceremonies with the question of choosing a hero and to popularize everyone who was noted in our history, in his opinion, on the list, maybe the hero of yevpatia, kolovrat and tsar ivan the terrible and the traveler nikolai miklukho-maklai and military leader alexander suvorov americans. they are theirs. invents, that is, because not quite young lean, history and great real american heroes. they simply do not have enough for all that, an array of films and tv shows that are in america is a nation of superheroes, because many of ours. uh, you are shirking the tribesmen of the past, the present, their biography is so fantastic

, so many, they performed feats in their lives. super mikhailovich is, probably, after all, even though it is small to large. it is clear, but it is designed primarily for young people. which of these heroes, or maybe you name, will induce precisely patriotic feelings. they are just, uh, beautiful movies, well, beautiful movies about something else. well, you know, here, i always think to you about these issues, yes, it comes to my mind first of all that the word patriot and it is the same root as the word patrician. and patricia is translated from roman as this father. therefore, here, uh, a patriot, most likely, should be perceived as a person who has taken place and an adult, as the father of a family of a person who is able to defend his fatherland who served in the army. yes, it’s not bad, if you participate in the war, then this is, well, a certain sign of quality, that he proved that he really is not just some talkative person capable of defending his fatherland and in general

there are a lot of serious things here and, frankly, of course, three heroes are much closer to me than a black man around whom some people are dancing. so i don’t read it, firstly, here it is in the video. i don't know who this person is. he is sitting opposite me, but i do not read any associations at all. i have with russia does not happen at all in this video. it 's not who told you. well, i told you i was there, you saw a piece. actually there are three people. can i say it? just say the word negro, but what can not be said? no, he's african american firstly, or you are used to it only when you come somewhere fell silent-why are you saying, negro? you are a deaf-mute with what joy it is in our culture, it does not explain, but you yourself take it and

speak in the west, it was perceived, otherwise it has never been perceived in our country at all, yes, because, yes, the word. excuse me. no, none. yes, that was when the word. i explain that black people, even in our country , the word is once unpleasant for them. well, this, probably, alexander sergeevich pushkin would be told, let's we begin to drag some examples of western culture, it will be this man in belgorod and what does he say when the word is unpleasant. i know the guys who are out here, who do not perceive it. well, as they say. yes, the lord speaks pleasantly to you. you still speak offending. to understand well. but still no fragments of anyone. if someone insulted, andrey exclaimed, you reacted. it was calculated

exactly for this, that the person is right. well, it’s done trying to pull the blanket over himself right away he is not interested. here are all those present, he came to declare himself. first of all, i'm just explaining to you why you cannot be silent when you call people, this is my friend, you call him a black man. and who is he to me, he is black. and why should i tell you because andrei nikolayevich should insult you in your language seriously, you are now being led to a certain provocation. i beg you. you are the seniors in it. let's please, in general, you need to install pushkin should have been an ethiopian, your mother, this phrase is more like me

asked mikhail borisovich, he could not get past the video with the characters he was interested in, what is closer to me, i can’t say that you can always be closer to me bogatyrs, these are closer to you. but your children are younger. they are also closer, just the new homes of the patriot you drew. yes? yes, he turned out to be such a boring cartoon no no, you said who is a patriot yes, this is such a person, you understand. i listened to you and understood that , well, he's been boring for a long time. i understand that all these arguments may not be yes, cheerful. maybe i should have danced defeat. there may be something else, but i'm not at that age anymore. you can do like this ah muranets. well, can you do it? here is the problem. completely different. it seems to me that indeed the problem here is that, firstly, we are not

waging the great patriotic war. and therefore , we can not simply achieve such a large-scale impact on the brains of people, because not everyone is involved in this war to that extent. in what were those people who were then in the soviet union involved? union it concerned everything then. the germans reached moscow already further, it was simply impossible not to participate for every person. now we can still pretend that we live in big cities. and what is happening there in ukraine does not really concern us. in general, we are accustomed to this kind of regional conflicts, as something that does not have a special relationship for us, but it seems to me that both the ministry of defense and the russian federation should finally learn to hammer into the bridge for every person in such situations that she wants to say. uh, look, we are reducing everything to some such military paradigm now. we don't

live all the time. yes, we will live. i'm sure it's under these conditions, otherwise it doesn't exist. before the war, none of this, what you are saying now, there was not a single film based on the battle of kulikovo throughout the entire period of existence, dear a. let's try. to argue that not only epic bogatyrs or some of them can be used for this purpose, so that i understand patriotism, as pride in my country. i'm sorry, so we can be proud of cheburashka i believe that we can, because in no country in the world, in any culture, or in literature, is there anything of cheburashka, the japanese began to plant it like their own. wait, they took it as they said. it's there, look how it looks like pokemon let's. we, therefore, will be crazy about cheburashka, we can use cheburashka in some way. here in this topic, the hero is not a man with a sword or with a machine gun, such a character is not at all heroic. in fact, there

can be a lot of characters, moreover, they can be like specifically and historically, the same alexander nevsky or sergius of radonezh or suvorov, or the same lomonosov, in fact, these are all characters that make up the pride of our country. and if they are correct and very, but talented now to teach for our youth. precisely reached to the heart, but it can be a collective image, for example, the image of a russian woman olympic bear i am a bad example of the olympic bear - this is the olympics for you, i said that i say we are now quietly quiet. let vladimir that he is already looking at his watch there. let's negotiate since we didn't pass you there. agreed to what i started with, one way or another, all these works should evoke emotions. cheburashka is a beautiful image, but besides the feeling of tenderness, there is hardly any other feeling, you can always be easier with the military, why because

they cause a feeling of pride, they say that we are cool, they say that no one defeated us alexander vasilyevich suvorov is an excellent example. here you are, a man who has not lost a single battle. and this is possible untwist, but simply will not work for us. uh, i don't know how to remove it? look, well, wait. well, let's agree. just, for example, the same epic characters that we are trying. we are not even trying to transfer to the present, which in my opinion. very not great. that is, we still have a nightingale-robber somewhere in the bryansk forests. and the children still need to explain why there is in bryansk or the site, there is a nightingale-robber for some reason we beat this armangol near kiev, we need to play in such a vladimirovich over there, look like this trying to transfer some modern understanding. this is new. yes, i think this is a step in the right direction. it's right in the right way yeah exactly, because if there's a violation

of the law on propaganda here, there's a wild thing about it i don't know. well, what is this? a step in the right direction, because the children need to understand that the hero is next to them. if you want to fight pokemon like that, there, i don't know, i don't want to beat the rest, it's not necessary. these images need to be berthed in order to arrange such a crossover. yes if you want, yes it is children will understand. understand here they are patriotism will have something to do with. i understand that marvel and bogatyrs are cool, but we will have patriotism, all this, which already indicates that you admire your country. this is patriotism. well, so vladimir alexandrovich, in my opinion, you have already accumulated information there about the war about this military operation. and, of course, when you turn to professionals, you somehow propagandize all sorts of things. raise the consciousness of people to speak. we need about the military

they rightly gave an example when it’s not gastello , it’s today, and there are many such mediocre ones, when on several channels half the screen is a portrait, mourning music and information about what a feat this person accomplished, i at first thought that this was true about the deceased. it was only later that i figured out that it was about, uh, living, surviving people . it is impossible to show our heroes so mediocrely - these are heroes. will you make a good report on this? make a good movie make it like this so that the goosebumps go away and everyone looks there young people will look on their mobile phones. you understand, and i once again support the video that we watched, i like it for a certain segment of the young, uh, russian audience. it's brilliant propaganda. no matter how many skin colors there are, uh, heroes. the main thing is that the thought that is put there, in my opinion,

everything is correct here. and that is how it should be created. i don't know some crazy psychedelia around all this, everyone needs to psychedelize about it. well , yes, so that everyone talks about it, how it was always so that, as in ukraine, you know it will be the same, that is, it makes sense. yes, they write to me from morning to evening and force them yes peaceful. festivals to abandon us, peaceful, uh, sports organizations to abandon us. they just write these letters to them at the same time and not peaceful associations. here is wba. right? yes, today is a choice. well, in my opinion, they restored us stopped. well , this is one of the ones. can i try you cool marvel and return andrey nikolaevich to his connection with patriotism, that is, we always go to the side. and look how we go in very russian marvel or something. i'm not talking about transfer. and

let's see. the fact is that patriotic education and propaganda still require a very great talent, because you can take such an ambiguous event as the storming of the winter palace and turn it into the film october, which becomes a masterpiece of world cinema and the battleship potemkin, and it also becomes world cinema is power. what was said here, by the way, about the battle of kulikovo was, in my opinion, the eighties, a fifteen-minute cartoon swans no, i hardly recommend 15 minutes, but the most powerful one is simply done superbly. there, the frost really pierces the skin here. especially in the apotheosis of the moment, he did a wonderful job. why because it is made with talent , you understand, if we say education? yes, sorry , we could in the soviet years. you will go down the series of mikhail lomonosov is not military pride at all. but today, someone, i don’t know today the centenary of the soviet physicist nikolai basov, nobel prize winner, a person who really world stop science. who is talking about this today? seriously, and we say, but he also had a biography. he started, he fought at the front, he did operations and saved people. just here, just in the

field. that is, there is a biography to shoot a movie, but for this, by the way, you still need to have talent. that is, if you can make legend 17, and give you other plots there, it turns out that people sit down, but with all their will. well, somehow it does not cling. you see, there was such a film in the soviet years of the magical power of art. remember what to build a class in the cinema and look not at their avengers and the class starts shooting at the screen, because we will help ours, you understand, and the elusive avengers went to them after 30 years, because, as it were, soviet and nobody did marvel. this is a field of four soviet heroes, uh, made from in general, with the story of red devils, untwisted into three paintings. it's really powerful you can take it as a brush, whatever. it worked, it worked. that is, you want to get a patriotic education. you need normal talented parties who will know what they are conveying and want to convey. that is, in the end we rested in the absence. e talented people who can do it we say, firstly, i showed my child just

last week. uh, red devils, and it is difficult to explain why some russians fight against other russians for a seven-year-old six-year-old guy with only tricolor, and death. well, okay, i'm not talking about that. this, apparently, was different then in the context it was clear who was with the red flag. that one is now it is not clear what we are talking about the whole program we are talking about communication about the dialogue between the authorities and society communication is impossible without trust. with trust, in order for this trust to be it must be earned. and how to deserve it, to be honest, not to lie, just not to lie and talk to a person, respectfully, treating him, we don’t have this. and when we try to exceed the norm with a slogan, it’s pathetic, maybe i’ve been talking about this since the twenty-fourth of february that they don’t talk to us, explain, and so on over me we laughed a lot, we all sort out these problems when we try when when we when we

try to sell heroes, or i don’t know, everything is great with santa claus. this by now has nothing to do will not sell. they're franchises that make great money. i love big epics for children. here alyosha popovich tried to take his wife away from a friend. so far, i’ve only fought on the news, so to speak, because there’s no need to lie. everything must be told the truth. the capital city, that is, the capital, which is with the capital of russia kiev sung, but also now it is not clear how to explain. why is the capital of russia kiev and why is the operation of the russians not the capital city of kiev the capital city of kiev when yes, and more importantly, what our heroes really worked chatsky onegin and bazarov and so on. why do n’t bazarov work after work, nor onegin, damn it, and

the loafers see the perception of the audience. they became popular because they sincerely were slackers and deniers old is all nihilists who said everything is old. fuck the carriage to me oblomov's map, what was it, but why is he that's how it worked. so he was a loafer, generally lying on the couch on himself, denied saying anything, not the chief editor said, more and more i can’t listen to it, go far away. a woman is afraid to live in her own house, which her daughter has turned into a den of snakes and buys, and that they use it on the floor along the corridors and sometimes crawls and walks without shoulders. she believes that they can bite a person to make serpentaria out of the house. she was helped by a friend who confidently supported the snakes, the cutest creatures. and i supported her, and therefore she

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