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they do not have a director, but gold daria mosolova. valentin lyubimov and alexander ermakova ntv the second birthday of the second is celebrated by the truck driver, who survived thanks to the extremely quick reaction of the electric train driver. this happened in dmitrov, near moscow, at one of the railway crossings. heavy truck. i got stuck on the tracks at that moment, the train began to rapidly approach, one of the eyewitnesses filmed what was happening on camera and could not believe my eyes when the train stopped just a few centimeters from kamaz even without hurting his head of the carrier company. now we intend to reward the locomotive crew for their professionalism. and today there is more and more news on our website and in the ntv state of emergency telegram channel, feedback is also working there if you need help when faced with injustice. report, tell about emergencies in your city of november thank you for your attention and see you
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on ntv and everything and 200, how ukraine will survive the new wave of mobilization climb from all sides. we hold the defense. how can we? why zaluzhny demands to toughen the punishment for desertion mobilized everything, let's go ahead. and how long ukrainians are ready to live in poverty, they are ready. this is to endure two or three years. this is in our program today. hello, is this the meeting place on
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ntv, the place where everything becomes clear? i'm andrey norkin. my colleague is ivan trushkin. we work live the president of ukraine continues to engage in various pr campaigns. well, in the hope of getting points, additional both moral and material, and he really wanted, of course, to participate in sunday last in the final of the world cup, but fifa leadership showed some amazing resilience in these times and zelensky was denied this. this is probably the only case. so i can remember recently, when zelensky was not allowed to say something like that at the event. and where he wanted to participate. here. well, he sort of made up for it all , in the first place. just yesterday, we recalled this trip of his artyomask destroyed, and the western press. e, believes that it is now i will tell you the exact one from them the wording is the most daring, and the trip of the ukrainian president was the first russian special operation. well, well, and today it has become. it is known that the ukrainian president, while committing can be much less courageous. but uh, according to the possible consequences, it
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will probably be even more effective. it turned out that zelensky is flying to washington. well , let's start with the fact that let's take a look. now some fresh shots, let's start with the fact that no one announced this visit, in fact . the first information that the president of ukraine is flying in the capital of the united states appeared in the american press literally the day before and only today, and the very fact of this trip to these meetings was confirmed by the american white house, which means that the program is such, firstly, a meeting with president baid, and secondly, zelensky’s speech to congressmen on according to data, zelensky’s trip may be timed to the fact that the white house will announce that the allocation of a new batch of military assistance to ukraine is almost $ 2 billion. but most importantly, the americans are allegedly ready to transfer patriot missile defense systems to kiev which zelensky has been asking for so long, we have already talked about it. so far,
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there is no confirmation of this, but now they are talking again that next year, perhaps, for some reason, there will be only one battery. what is the meaning of this is also not very clear, the axios publication writes that congress is preparing to pass a new law on the allocation of $ 45 billion for support. kiev next year, some politicians, however, doubt expediency, uh, and therefore zelensky, uh, there is such a need to convince these indecisive congressmen, but it can also be added that nancy pelosi, who continues to wander around the house of representatives, she issued an appeal to all members of the democratic party, but who is in congress, is personally present on wednesday at this speech. as far as i understand. here at night tonight on thursday night at half past twelve, a joint biden press conference should already be held. and zelensky well, why does zelensky need all this, of course. that's why a byte? well, why do americans need this visit, let's listen.
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zelensky's visit to the usa where he is to meet with biden and address members of congress came as a shock to both senior us officials and lawmakers, officials expecting a confrontation over weapons and an attempt by biden and zelensky to use the meeting to woo the new congress zelensky will likely prove to congress that his country needs better weapons to repel russian bombardments. the ukrainian delegation is expected to come up with another round of requests regarding the army's large-scale tactical missile systems. range or attack, as well as gray eagle and reaper drones. so andrey vladimirovich so, let's agree with you. if you can’t achieve some kind of direct armor-piercing insight now, yes, then it’s better not to start. it means that what is hiding behind the facade began to talk about the fact that yesterday i barely woke you up at all with vanya by the end of the program. yesterday i spoke about the fact that
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the question of the transfer of systems is at the final stage. patre. that's it, that's it, for the sake of it. no. not for the sake of this, of course , we are talking about the amount of assistance. actually, it is not 45, a 53 billion dollars. this time. secondly, uh, in the second half again. here. don't misunderstand me, whatever you're talking about, it can be solved. well, something like this in the current format. wait why is it necessary for the president of ukraine to fly to america? this is it. remember how president putin flew to minsk and how the western press says what it is? why did putin fly? and why? some with such a composition of the delegation, and what will they talk about? here i am now in principle, i am also wondering why the zelensky meeting is excellent, unlike the president of the united states does not allocate money to the russian federation, but congress allocates money, and therefore, without this, zelensky could not have
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just received money and that’s it. this is huge money. some weapons. no, the main goal is travel. so it's cynical to say it's secure. uh, a tough standoff against the disruption of the russian offensive earlier this year in february of this year. andrei vladimirovich i love. i'm a person a very good piece of some kind of memory. i rewind from you when you were with us before your absence. you to us they said that the issue was the allocation of money. it 's already been decided. everything pops up just fine. well then , you’re still saying that it’s around 40. now you ’re saying that zelensky needs to be sent for this money because there’s no shit there . or rather, uh, the decision to allocate money will have to be taken by the new congress. that's what 's up with the old one. there's already a new congress that's, uh, elected. how is it yes.
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i think they will. yes it will be great. well, at least lean on it. everything means to fix it. of course not, because, well, if you stick to this version, then, firstly, this is a small topic, all this was decided by phone for 30 days, that is, zelensky didn’t leave for 300 days, didn’t even go to the g20, and then suddenly outside, unfortunately, it strains me myself and is very disturbing. that is, since such a trip is needed, it means that i understand something fundamental. what is what but what do you think will be stated. or in an agreement on a certain result of the negotiations between the american russian and zelensky put in famous people want to hear him and this is a kind of turning point in the war in hostilities, or god forbid - this is some kind of finalization of the conflict, which is completely at the ukrainian expense. and there is
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any mineralization, please, what does the ukrainian account mean with finances, like we are finishing helping you, some kind of truce that the ukrainian side is unlikely to arrange at least that part of it that is now at the front or that part of it, of which there are many products that have died to us . wait, please, wait, but they are preparing laws about 45 bn now to talk to congress for him with a cupcake. he says that you are rude to the congress there, you are talking to someone in general, congressmen should not be allowed to come under . he did say that. now he's letting him in on congressmen. he convinced that it was necessary to give money, but no, of course, this is some kind of big result under the cover of the negotiations, which will now be announced, because everything else has been decided. and so 60 billion decided by the patriots. they give ukraine they are not really needed. but america is actually close to what you need everything
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announced, zaluzny this is not given yet. and zelensky is unlikely to change this, that is, the result of his trip can only be political, especially considering that this trip is absolutely sudden, about which no one knew, and clearly there were no long diplomatic negotiations with the ukrainian side about this trip, so i’m waiting some cornerstone agreements, which may not be announced, but which are unlikely to please us all. well, we all will go bogdan , that is, there will be some there will be some it was to start some kind of insight you were sitting it bohdan was hatched there like that. i think that the reason for zelensky's trip is the request for weapons of money, and even here, the main thing is not weapons. no, not necessarily. the fact is that ukraine is constantly on external injections and these external injections. eh, in principle, they cannot last forever permanently. this is like a generator.
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he, of course, can work for a day, but still he needs to either feed the fuel or give him a rest. no generator, you need to let it rest. he cannot work without interruption. you need to turn on the second you don't give him tell. he lives in moscow about such things. to me, as it were, from my point of view. here the question is rather the economy of the ukrainian economy. she is now in front of that threshold, when she can collapse, when the hryvnia can sharply explain itself, when it can collapse sharply. uh, the entire economic component is still existing, and this requires a very large scale. i'm here connection lazarevna, i agree. well, these questions can be in the work, of course, yes, but the conference is somehow strange. you see, here he is going to report this in a day, even less. once andrei vladimirovich says that he knew in two weeks. andrei vladimirovich knows everything in 2 weeks. so good. the fact is that everything was won from everyone in secret, except for zelensky and other people. they are very fond of making a good face with a bad game, so in
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this case, in this case, the americans can also make a poker face during well, unwillingness, let's say too much help, but they don't want to. here, let's say they supply a large number of patriots from a military point of view. it's expedient from everyone else's reluctance it is inexpedient to copy the conflict, that's why he goes there. of course, i do not have insiders. i can't say why exactly he goes there and will speak before the congress. andrey vladimirovich, in fact, he also does not have any insight. he just sits and thinks them out of his head, but judging by the fact, judging by the way they correspond to the real development of events. well , okay. i honestly admit that i have no sites, honesty. yes, only what is in the media, only open emperor source information there and so on from my point of view there is nothing super-outstanding in zelensky's visit to the united states now, maybe for someone it is somewhat unexpected, maybe it was really planned. or maybe it was 50 to 50 for us for rashi i understood it can only make sense it was the one that
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our two interlocutors said that it could be a threat, or some kind of hmm key shift, or a threat. or is it really some kind of attempt. that's all, well, to help such a cry for help, how else zelensky here, so you can therefore say what is happening in ukraine, including on the front line. there are big morale issues. this can be judged at least by what laws are being pushed through and the armed forces of ukraine are quickly taking joy. the day before, a video from artyomovsk appeared on the network, where the ukrainian military shares his impressions of how he and his comrades are doing on the front line. that's how we have nothing to eat to fight, too, there is nothing already and some in positions. there are seven people left. this is how we warm up. first, we burn the bonfire on a shovel, to warm our hands, and then the fire burns out, we throw off the coals from the shovel and sit on the shovel with our ass to warm our ass and back, so as not to freeze the situation at the front. apparently,
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the commander-in-chief understands everything, valery zaluzhny on monday. he called on his boss , terrorist president zelensky, to toughen criminal liability for desertion and the verkhovna rada saluted the refusal to carry out combat missions and immediately adopted the amendments. but the ukrainians don’t like them very much , a petition even appeared on the website of the president of ukraine demanding not sign documents. there are several tens of thousands of signatures against the military themselves. well, sometimes turn. what are they doing if they just throw us like ordinary meat without shovels, without picks, without anything into an open field, a barrel of clean floors. i'm like us do not depart mobilized all mobilized. everything, let's go ahead you do not mind. i heard this from one commander that they are not sorry for the drum. sorry about the drum. come on, let's move forward, and the ukrainian ministry of defense recently announced that they do not exclude a new wave of mobilization, moreover, the military department
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admitted that an acute shortage of military personnel is already felt at the front, although for december 2022. ukraine has mobilized about 750,000 people that it is becoming increasingly difficult to hide huge losses, and the foreign press writes. even american publications note the situation. in ukraine, it is very different from those tales that a european representative has recently become accustomed to feeding to the western man in the street. commission ursula vonderlein casually revealed the devastating consequences of the war in ukraine , according to her, more than 100,000 ukrainians died military personnel. if vonderlein's estimate is correct , this is almost 10 times the number of dead ukrainian soldiers reported by the ukrainian government. even the strongest supporters of this bloody and unnecessary war. can no longer hide the truth. ukraine runs the risk of losing mikhail borisovich to whatever biden the president of the terrorism zelensky travels to and how many reprimands he brings with him in his backpack with a fighting
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spirit. it won't do anything, but from what we see there, to put it mildly, it's not good. well, i i think i went. over there, in general, not so much for rockets, they will give him rockets in rovno in the amount that the baidan wants, no matter how much he asks or begs. uh, the americans themselves will decide. how much money to allocate? how many missiles to allocate and so on? most likely, he went there, because biden needs to somehow materialize ukraine in front of his citizens, so zelensky arrived. this is ukraine here. look, she's alive, we send a lot of money and a lot of weapons anywhere, but to a specific guy, young and energetic, alive. and here we are we spend money on this. as for the real cases at the front. the americans themselves perfectly understand that sooner or later this will end with the collapse of the front. well, of course, well, no matter how much the weapons of some last class of us nato troops are invested there. and firstly, it will be served exclusively by specialists, the nato troops themselves. infantry
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infantry will gradually be lost without infantry. it is possible to fight no matter how many hammers are put there, no matter how many missiles are put. no matter how funny you are, you say that they they themselves understand this very well, but then sooner or later there must be a question. not not there one person to ask. well, i don’t know a few, including in congress, that guys, why are we still investing, then here’s their incredible money in what, in general, is doomed. no, well, it’s absolutely absolutely logical rational policy. well, let's remember. uh, the same prime minister of great britain during world war ii. he said we need to keep the second front closed for as long as possible so that the germans kill as many as possible russians, and the russians killed the germans. then we will really be the winners as a result of this huge war, just like the americans argue, ukrainians should kill russians as much as possible, and we should kill ukrainians. and, of course, they perceive it
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as a costly thing. well, in fact, personally for them, for the americans, nobody practically dies. it's very convenient in some papers, papers, or papers through its industry. you are developing your military industry, so everything is perfect here. the longer ukraine will last, and the more massive its collapse, the in general, the result will be achieved and no worries. uh, pure pragmatism doesn't give a damn. who's there? what spirit they have there at the front absolutely. that's how much it will last so long and it will last well for a month, it's wonderful, the year is generally amazing, let's supply while they hold on, because the problem is not that they believe that the ukrainians will defeat russia, no one can believe this, so here they will inflict maximum damage, really acting russian alexandrovich we are here such videos with examples of not very good fighting spirit. we showed them in march and in
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april and in may, and each time it seemed that everything was already here. here under the fabric and fall apart did not fall apart. in december, the situation is developing, the way it is developing, are we not exaggerating for ourselves this drop in morale. absolutely not, absolutely no exaggeration of these videos even more than you show and much more, especially in the ukrainian telegram-ka-telegram-political segment and zelensky went to artyomovsk not to to lift the spirit, that's how to motivate a soldier. the first is to raise morale, and the second is to intimidate. yes, that is, if he would like to raise morale, he would not introduce criminal liability, well, for any disobedience and moreover, this is artyomovsk, today in the ukrainian segmental channels they are now discussing what is in artyomovsk. well , in bakhmut there is no such warehouse, that is, in artyomovsk there are only nine enterprises , most of which have not been operating since the fourteenth year. they are all broken, they ask for the president's office. and show in which well there is no such room, that is, show on the territory of the city. probably, i just
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remember the story of the nineteenth year, when zelensky rubbish went to the front for the first time and then passers-by took such a random photo there, how he plays sports at the avdeevskaya industrial complex. well, right here is where the hot spot is, and then the locals post this location, they say, listen, it’s 40 km away, it’s in the village and now it’s the same, that is. why did you go? he is to america, but it seems to me that he himself the white house, he indicated that the meeting of all the entire complex of zelensky events, it will last 2 hours. yes, that is, this is, i don’t know, yes, it’s not the white house at all, there are two or three there is something like that. well, yes, that is, this package of military aid, if i am not mistaken, 44 billion, it has already formed the number of weapons, everything else. yes, that is, zelensky not to ask, he has already been formed, go through, that is, well, that is, most likely, he is needed in order to get the same person of the year, well, it means that biden is not doing so well, because theories from linear lazarevny that zelensky will come and he will be beaten there, if he will be wealth or assistants, so dear, we have agreed with the russians with the chinese or with
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everyone at once about this and that, here is a list of ideas for this, there is quite a lot for this, yes? it is not required that yes, that's it, just put it here for this, because all the time in ukraine there are no special communications listening to the network. now wait, please, and britain has slightly different understandings of how ukraine should fight with russia. that is, if britain is to go ahead, sabotage on the territory of russia offensive everything else, that is, for the united states , this war is important in a smoldering state. as long as possible continue to him he will not be some kind of tsu uh, so that from britain i will not give him any kisses. so that will support ukraine in the war to the end. why is this meeting needed then again , i say again, this meeting is even well , in order to fully provide ukraine with weapons or only provided them and prevent russian intercession in february. this meeting may not be allowed. this is the supply
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of weapons, first of all, and for this you need two ways. he was yesterday. was speaking. say nine locations nine factories. what factory was he in? well, you say it was. i know that he uh, including watching the new fortification. uh, presented awards and so on. say nothing for the night. andrei ivanovich is harmful. i just know it was in terms of fighting spirit. if his spirit would be like this, our army would have to be in kiev . sorry, they are beating there. who is it? takes everything off? yes? what well, these videos are the same. sorry, but you are not from our army seen. the same rollers, absolutely the same, some of them are the same, well, such people are water in the trenches and so mud and so on mud. this one is dirt. this is either the ukrainian army. there would be such a spirit everywhere. well, we would have been in kiev for a long time andrey said that we have a state, therefore, if
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the volunteers, as they answered the question that you asked him, but chatted. you said that until the end she asks you. until what end of the year to support this coercion of russia to disadvantageous mila is still decided on russian-american negotiations. it is not on russia that the battlefield is to be decided. i am absolutely sure that these negotiations are underway. so i know that they are going to say there is something, and it is also necessary to talk with him about this, we are talking about the rest, the actions of weapons, patriots, and that’s it. the rest is solved over the phone and fine. this has been proven. we saw transcripts of their conversations. everyone, i think, saw them. maybe we'll show, the next story is still okay, because it doesn't seem like it can't be dropped. uh, from the accounts also internal like here if the president of the country flies to the president of another country, which means big, strong in every possible way, this little country,
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fighting there is supported by this little president. sorry for the possibly inappropriate hints. here he, uh, owes the big president, how to present all, uh, cards. here we are at the front. here is such a situation. we would like you to help us in such and such a way, but in the rear in the economy we have such a situation. we would like what, what situation and what they want. let's get on this topic. let's see last week ukrainian prime minister shmygan said that in 2023 ukraine's gdp could lose up to 50% if hostilities do not stop. damage is predicted to be $700 billion this year . according to the economy and ukraine, more than 2.5 million people are out of work. the figures are record, but not final. since the vacancies after the start of the special operation became half as many and eight people apply for each. the average salary, judging by ukrainian job search services, is about $350 per month, the world
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bank made a disappointing forecast. world the bank has always said that the humanitarian consequences of this war are catastrophic. let me give you a few figures by the end of 2022, 8 million people in ukraine will live below the poverty line. this increases the poverty rate from 2 to 25% of the population, there is a radical negative impact on the incomes and living standards of people in ukraine, and utility bills are growing. and although since february, the ukrainian authorities will not publish figures, the total debt, according to the union of consumers of public utilities, has long been digested for 100 billion hryvnia. this is almost 200 billion rubles. reasons for two tariffs high, and ukrainians have nothing to pay. what to do? with dollars, in fact? indeed , now there is a moratorium on the fact that there is no subsidy from the population of money. no, what you do with people is also incomprehensible debts. according to the national bank of ukraine, a third of
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all loans in the country will continue to grow indebted to citizens and credit organizations, problematic losses of ukrainian banks. already made up more than twenty percent. business is also going bankrupt according to the entire ukrainian association. bakers, every fifth enterprise of the industry is not working. the situation is similar with dairy production and meat processing, many companies, including metallurgical companies, have to switch to night operation in order to minimize losses, it was tongue-twisting. adjusted so as to reduce working hours by an hour in this way. there was an opportunity to save electricity from poverty and unemployment. ukrainians massively flee abroad according to the un at the end of summer. at first, more than 10 million people left the country for special operations, of which four gradually returned. most of the refugees settled in poland and russia at the end of october. deputy prime minister of ukraine iryna vereshchak, following her terrorist boss zelensky, called for those who left on time to return to their homeland, the american press sees this as a real
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economic collapse of ukraine the economy of the country as a whole, when the state literally requires its citizens to stay abroad, because it cannot provide them with basic infrastructural services at home - these are indeed some sort of existential statements. so sergey ivanovich are some of your colleagues. they say that now ukraine is completely sitting on, uh, western social networks. well , that is, the money that allocates it not only there for weapons, but simply there . elementary payment of wages to pensions. in general, we know this, as we know. boris yeltsin once spoke directly to bill clinton. you give me money, because i have nothing to pay salaries with. here according to your estimates. uh, the state of the ukrainian economy now, because again the same question arises , as if asking about fighting spirit. in general, we hear, we have long been talking about the fact that everything
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hangs by a thread, but this is the last thread somehow. it doesn’t stop, you know, in different industries, andrey vladimirovich, i heard you shouting lies, well, listen to the ladies. i give you a word, what are you all? like a gopnik, you’re leading some kind of forgetfulness - now we’ll give you a word, we’ll listen, we’ll laugh together , please, the situation is different, if well, that’s all industries today are pushing to the limit, for example, lesnaya in the carpathians continue to saw wood and send it abroad. this morning, as it were, lives. and here is what concerns metallurgy, chemistry, mechanical engineering sumy chemical plant, odessa port plant. i call the largest chemical. uh, zaporozhye steel is not easy for machine-building plants. well, from kramatorsk they have already all been transported from slavyansk, also partially transported to western ukraine, now projects are being considered for transportation to poland, that is, the loss of a third
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of gdp is an obvious result of that policy, which is carried out by the state and hopes for subsidies. this is the only hope in order to somehow support retired medical workers and the rest of sergeyevich. and now we are hitting the energy infrastructure of ukraine to the extent that this entire industry works, because you say this transported worker- but there is just a feeling that it either works, or not, then. we are now hitting electricity, thermal power plants and those transmission transformer substations. and as for nuclear power plants, rodinskaya. uh, khmelnitskaya well, of course, they are not subjected to shelling. no, that is, some factories still continue to work. against all odds. they continue to work at night , in some other way that is favorable to your feelings. this is how long it will last. in this state, semi-working economies, it can
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hold. how long you want to squeeze shrink shrink slowly, inexorably, but zelensky why did he go ? this image of survival is not today, tomorrow it will be asked. he says, why did they die our brothers? he came to the biden, he tells him to sign the peace agreement. and tomorrow they ask him. so for what we fought , i don’t think it’s about lies. what lie? you said that before the representatives spoke there, there were data on the ukrainian economy, right? yes indeed falling gdp 30%. but these 30% do not affect the state of the country's budget in any way, since these are the entire social sphere. the entire social sphere of ukraine is fully dated by the european union. this is my god this is for this this excuse me, here are the same 18 billion euros
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now, firstly, in the latest data, so that it’s just finally here, and absolutely in a case, which means, yes, i specifically mean all this is an average salary. in ukraine, now 17.000 500 hryvnia. it's $540. so this is not a panorama agency. not so in russia hse, of course, yes. that means, as far as uh pensions are concerned, what are the average in ukraine but the minimum, for example, 4 1/2-5.000, but less than 2.000 hryvnia, in principle, is already gone. not anymore. everything is already with these minimum wages, so that for your information now e has become 6.500. well, in kyiv where they close in february it was 29. uh, 56, yes, and today 36 20% inflation 20% depreciation over 10 months in russia, as you know, the ruble has depreciated by 20% over the past 10 days. here's the state of the economy and so on. okay. i have a
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traditional question then, please. here's a lady, here's anna berda, vice president of the world bank. she means, as if she does not have it, that these are the estimates of the world bank, they are completely at odds with the real estimates. no, adrianovich, and who gives real estimates, except for your insiders? no why and saga gives it. eh, first of all, european commission. this is given by the government of ukraine and so on, you understand one simple european commission, as we know it lies in terms of the number of deaths. the european is not just the european head of the european commissions forward, it turns out that we were told about this ukraine is european in one. so they are lying here. and here they are called strange. andrey is the speech of furos, which was later corrected in the text. this time. here, she is lying, which means that the ukrainian government is in your version. she's lying, and she said it was n't true. yes, we must not trust european commission figures on the economy, of course, on
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the economy of the government of ukraine give all the figures to the european commission. yes here and yes now yes now from inflation in ukraine for 26.5% what do you trust these figures? you know from them and check through many sources now in ukraine inflation is 26.5%, yes, and everyone forgot that in 2015 inflation in ukraine was 45%. ukraine survived and will survive quietly. and here i can, well, i'm not a laser ask that they both said that you support very pointwise. you will lose with someone in ukraine everything is as good as andrey vladimirovich tells fiery in general, excellent, developing beautiful countries of the state. well done that it really works works banks works jackie kh. it all really
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works. well, of course, the dollar is growing, of course, in the economy, the plinth is the ceiling. of course , there is no opportunity to develop industry, of course, the main metallurgy is in mariupol. and when will the ukrainian authorities get to it and in what condition are they called? that is, of course, there are all these problems, and i just want to look at them realistically and, of course, very correctly smygal counts everything and sends requests to the americans dear americans if you want the ukrainians to hold on and fight and, as you put it, ensure the security of the western world, then be kind. support our economy, otherwise the ukrainian economy will not withstand this load in the military, because poroshenko was at least somehow preparing for hostilities. and zelensky was no longer preparing absolutely, so no one was ready for this situation. and let now the americans of the european union on economic stories. you know, when we talk about the economy, here the numbers
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can most objectively tell, they are everything else. just now they cited stories, where oleg popenko said that he is now saying that the housing and communal services are 100 billion. so i want to say that on january 1 of this year, the population's debt for housing and communal services that had been formed over 30 years was 72 billion hryvnias. plus 50% 30 billion in just 1 year. this suggests that people do not have money , people are saved only by a moratorium, which was introduced for the duration of martial law, realized that it was not can say fines and singing. wait a second in russia wait a second ukraine's budget for 2023, which was formed in september the expenditure side of the budget, $ 68 billion deficit of 36 billion, more than 50%. this was formed again in september before shmel announced that next year another -50, that is, the hole in the budget will be much larger next year, the european committee europe allocates 18 billion, that is, exactly half of the deficit that is laid down in the budget in september, plus the european commission said
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about social financing. they said that in the twenty-second year we gave money to ukraine only to support the war and to support the macroeconomic situation so that the banks did not collapse on the social program europe did not give a penny. and i want to say one more thing about zelensky's mow down on people, but look, let's go back to the fifteenth year. so, when there was an introductory blockade when ukraine cut off the water to the crimea in kiev, of course, they said there that it was not ukraine that cut off the water from the crimea - it was russia that cut off the crimea from the water. but that he said and the collective smell when they blamed ukraine yes, that this action is impossible, he says, regardless of how ukraine behaves, the problem and the responsibility to provide people with water lies with those who protect and control these people, that is. right now russia is hitting energy. yes , he solves his military tasks, on whom is the task of providing people, yes, that is, in the west, who controls ukraine. but this is such. they asked for help. they asked the same 50 states. zelinskaya went to london
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and said no help was needed. just sergey valentinovich said that this situation will continue. how could it continue. that's while the money is given for continuing to do i will not give the west of ukraine will not be, in short. i just spoke about this from my point of view, just a catastrophe in the economy, but which you can embellish a little, you put in to ask yes , it determines lensky everywhere, this is the economy, it can function, but it will require more and more and external injections cannot constantly these infusions over increasing these amounts. well okay, let's do it, let's do it for a while. let's take a break. let's continue there others. yes, yes, we will consider other simple factors in a few minutes. don't miss the events and people of the week on central television. zelensky complains that european leaders are urging him to sit down at the negotiating table, and the commander-in-chief complains that the soldiers do not want to
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investigations against opposition politicians and opened almost 40 criminal cases, how can you ban the party in a simplified regime, but you can when you really want to and when you think that you can absolutely do everything they are lawless . they canceled any deterrents for themselves on the basis of leftist expertise. based on an agreement with the ministry of justice. the ministry of justice on lawlessness absolutely waved, they do not agree among officials, too, to exit so at the beginning december mayor of chernigov vladislav otroshenko was removed from his post, as if due to official violations, although the official himself, says he was simply pressured by the security forces because of disagreement with the general kiev line. a lot of claims suddenly arose and vitali klitschko was suspected of abuse of power and misuse of capital money. however, both the ukrainian and even the western press write questions to the mayor due to klitschko's possible participation in the future presidential elections. not the first time zelensky and
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his administration have been used against klitschko heavy artillery back in 2019, after zelensky took office, the then chief of the presidential office, andriy bohdan, demanded the resignation of the kiev mayor. according to some observers, zelensky is making a second attempt to knock klitschko out of the saddle. as a potential opponent in the upcoming 2024 presidential election. another favorite pastime of the kiev authorities is the search for traitors. at first, special operations in ukraine opened more than a thousand criminal cases about snakes, while accusing a person of sympathy for russia and send to jail. as a collaborator, you can practically under any pretext several cities, kharkiv and nikolaev regions. they were even closed for the so-called filtration measures. look at me carefully. i supported him. yes, you supported putin yes, i support the charm of russia somehow you are not good, but the flag of ukraine
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yes, at the same time, the kiev authorities themselves are repressive, they only encourage, according to the head of the security service danilov, if he had his will, he would check every value. it doesn't matter where the moles are sitting today. we need these rats find. we need to poison them, and we need to poison them so that not a single one remains on our territory. this is a matter of our national security nikolayevich but in all these conditions, some kind of social discontent that develops not into a riot, but into something noticeable is generally possible or not, some kind of fantasy, it all looks a little bit. on north korea, with only one amendment, that if it is north korea that the so-called enlightened western world helps ivan, it’s hard to say, because, to be honest, it reminds me, e, i don’t look television of ukraine, uh, but i think that you can easily find there, well, approximately, it looks like a plot where the place of ukraine will be the word
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russia will be given approximately the same videos about the cases that are happening in our country . yes, i’m talking about discrediting, no, no, but they will find producer-distribution exactly in the deputies of politicians who will say, yes, everyone, survive everyone, ban everyone. how much we have heard here of all the officials will check the artists' nails, in which something is not right here, they would dump them , you understand, the same will be very very it seems, because i wanted to in the last part, but now i will say that there is. uh, four myths, but here's a lot more because we are a lot. in the mirror, we can see the story that everything tomorrow the russian economy will collapse into ashes, nothing will happen. everyone is impoverished. everything is the same. all tomorrow the economy of ukraine will collapse. nothing else will be just plots. you will see
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other stories about how the ukrainian army is decomposing. you will see everything about how the russian army is decomposing, everything is mirrored absolutely and in reality. you you understand, the reality has something to do with reality, the economy will destroy the economy will deteriorate , it will be very difficult to save, but for a long time nothing quickly nothing collapses quickly there can be no military defeat of any side, but does anyone really have doubts? how many weapons are still in russia in the soviet arsenal, how much can be supplied and delivered? is it really with some doubt what will be supplied? uh, well, ukraine is a weapon that just is? such uh wisdom about that how many ropes do not twist. all the same , someday it will be ending, this is a period. here. well, it’s just that you are describing everything so passionately that it will take an infinitely long time, of course, it may end, it will definitely return, as to economic results. yes, today it’s not a war, but
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an economic component, because what they were talking about is not only an economic a and an argumentative catastrophe for ukraine. but every day this brings a very serious problem for russia closer, you need to think about it now, because a 50 millionth state with with a ruined economy and with a ruined infrastructure next to us, this is a problem. well , how much did you drive before? yes, this was a problem for our country in the near future, where they will go in the event of the destruction of the economy in the final mode, specifically, i can conclude that after all, you hmm mean that the final will be the victory of russia yes, yes, he will have to solve the problems of the final not there will be no one in the final, because we can not be now the economic problem is already there. now even at the beginning of summer. even at the beginning of summer they estimated. e. loss of the economy ukraine is about half
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of russia's entire annual budget, right in half of this before the destruction of many infrastructure facilities. who please tell me, what are the prospects, please, some think one will win the second the other in any case, everyone understands that it needs to be restored yeah, who will restore it. at whose expense, all these infrastructure facilities will be restored, probably at the expense of pensioners. you will tell me now now the question. say it's a country that recently did this side of it to the fact that you're gone. you somehow give me they also talked about the road and and here i again disappeared, i rode new roads. here's where the money is. on road. here you are . excuse me, there is somehow money somehow somehow, because if you listen to you and some of your like-minded people, then we, in general, are not that on average, uh, the number of long-distance repair schools, which can also be found, but do not find. yes, but now i am faced with the fact
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how in 8 years they managed to prepare the economy for the sanctions strike of the west to the russian economy to demonstrate ability adapt about it right now. this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. we continue on december 21st. today we have the last decade of the last month of the year, this is such a very convenient period in order to sum up the results. well, as a rule, they try to sum up. hmm, to sum up the results of the outgoing year, but very often it turns out. so, some time chains begin to unwind and , accordingly, a slightly longer period of time is also captured in order to try to realize it. here are the latest. uh, well, for a few weeks already, there has probably been a lot of talk about the em minsk agreements. well, thanks to the revelations of petro poroshenko and then angela merkel, you remember that we
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discussed all this in our programs when they admitted that, in general, the minsk agreements were concluded solely in order to give the ukrainians time to build up military power, and the other day, uh vladimir putin also commented on this topic. he went to bishkek and that's how he was asked there about angelia merkel 's interview. we'll show you a piece. in general, he said that it is possible, as i understand it, that he does not. but a clear understanding. uh, at this moment, perhaps, our special operation on the territory of ukraine should have begun, and not earlier on february 24 of this year. why because, it turns out, all these minsk agreements, no one was going to execute the leadership of ukraine, uh, with the words of the former president. poroshenko also said this. i didn’t intend to sign it, i didn’t intend to execute it, but i still expected something; other participants in this process were sincere with us. turns out they lied to us too
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. and uh. this meaning was only to pump e ukraine with weapons and prepare it. eh, there are combat ones, but we see, yes, this is hmm, apparently, we are too late to orient, to be honest, and maybe all this should have started earlier. they just counted on mine that we could still come to an agreement. e under these dimensional agreements together agreements. well , it’s clear that if it were there before koba, but it’s all complicated, but there are cases when it’s very interesting, here’s how to dream up everything petrovich and if not the twenty-fourth, and earlier, and when earlier for a month for a year, that's eight years for 8 years. yes, in the fourteenth year, it was necessary not to sign these minsk agreements and continue what happened after the glavai or baltsevo boilers. it was then that these minsk agreements were imposed under the guarantee of the west, which
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said that all this would lead to a more peaceful destruction of the issue. in fact, this was not an army, by the way, by that time in the eighteenth year it was more or less ready, because already the reforms were, say, such a maximum rise, the combat regulations were changed according to the materials, or as a result of the syrian company, in principle, it was necessary to start this, either at the end of the eighteenth or at the beginning of the nineteenth year. so you think that by this point we were ready for could start and by the way, the economy. we had already passed. yes , import substitution. well, you see, here's the question. i think the key was precisely this western partner, which they then called them western and partners, that we they trusted that they somehow influence the situation, that they are supporters of resolving this situation in ukraine in order to prevent senseless bloodshed, that the change of power from poroshenko to zelensky will also lead to results, that zelensky, who went under
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the slogan that he is going for peace that this is all effective, in fact, it was a fiction a fiction, which, as they say behind this screen , was going on what was going on, by the way, and the military department then noted that under the guise of military exercises that were then going on ukraine most armaments of military equipment. after these exercises, it remained to find the territory of ukraine, and understandably. she didn't stay to come back to study. it just grows. let's alexei gennadievich, as a person, in general, also directly related to the region where the nineteenth year boiled, uh, of course, we are talking about the fourteenth year, when, in fact, yes, what happened immediately after the maidan with which a huge number of people in ukraine they did not agree experienced pro-russian sentiments were obviously, so to speak, for russia the ukrainian army was weak in xviii-xix already. excuse me, azov was banned in russia and there was already a prepared right sector
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. russia in the hands of a huge number of people supports now i will say. yes, with all due respect. i would say my point of view, because i know people. yes in the fourteenth year passed a referendum in donetsk does not matter. what was the question, but the essence of this voice was not in russia or for ukraine. all my relatives went to answer this question, regardless of the wording, the same question could be asked in odessa, the same question could be heard in kharkov. actually from all this i conclude that these are missed opportunities now? well, you yourself wait, you yourself, as it were, explain, because listen here, the way you think a lot of people and when they start thinking about what but here we are immediately, as it were, such an answer. well, we weren't ready at 14:00 then. i think that
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boris, wait, they say to him, he was sitting alone. you drank my blood. now the second one has come to drink blood. andrei vladimirovich drank blood for the first hour. oh i'm between two amps. yes , we will sprinkle you with garlic. yes, well, and so, that is, from my point of view, we are, of course, talking not about readiness, but about determination. and why was there no determination, from my point of view, it was connected with political expediency, because, well, in fact, people were like that are ready to join the russian federation on the territory of donetsk lugansk in the fourteenth year, why then russia did not accept them, this still remains a question, so yes, but let's say, the fourteenth year. ah, but how it should have been done and how it would have looked in general, yes, because we know until the fourteenth year. well, we didn’t introduce any additional troops or forces there, we raised it to the upper ceiling
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here, but if we had to do it, that’s all, that’s what to attack there, i don’t know as it should have been. unless, of course, you agree that in general in the fourteenth it was not agreed, what should be done? disagree. well, and moreover, i do not agree, as it were substantive. excuse peskov’s word, but hmm, in fact, he said many times, uh, our president lawyer, right up until the very end, he tries to abide by the laws, when crimea u became part of russia, so it was all done on the basis of law. there was a government parliament referendum. oh, and more than that in everything the world could see it. well, it is clear that a completely different story, donbass, firstly, there were no our military bases in the donbass. it would be necessary to bring in the army, this is reinforced concrete aggression from the point of view of international law, in contrast to the current situation. because now it is called from the point of view of international
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law, pre-emptive self-defense. and putin substantiated this for 24 hours. and then the dough is reinforced concrete aggression, so such confidence that we would have reached kiev e. well, here, i'll tell you so, uh, in the fifteenth year. eh, when it was the army of the donetsk people's republic was formed, they are just militia units that were absolutely there . well, there was a game. yes. uh, the army of the dpr is going to odessa for the fifteenth year, but people objectively assessed the circumstances, how they meet what forces the enemy has, and so, yes, the army would not have reached odessa. it would have ended, well, the president now wait. he already at least admits that it was possible to start earlier yes, but i will say, so then it fits with your idea that he is like you, you see, a lawyer, i prefer the word
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legitimist. in this case, the legitimists are rather ancient chinese philosophy, there is a school of legitimists in terms, look. i 'm sitting on this side, and not on that one, and yet , and without the introduction of russian troops in the fourteenth year, it was necessary to do just a few things. so this is what it could have been done, and everything would have been much better, and what number one is mariupol. e militias from mariupol, they were already in the city of the enemy, fled from there. and now you are a claim to whom you are sending a crooked claim, the one you brought in suitcases, while the others took these suitcases, and then you know the army. uh, any army, the most enthusiastic professional army can't exist. if warehouses were closed behind him and there is no bull,
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if there would be mariupol, then only one ruble would be ours, the eastern railway of the russian territory. and let's add more arguments, which, probably, alexey petrovich. he says that in the fourteenth year we were generally ready. we have editorial content that is enough for you. well, ready early, that's from the point of view of the army from the point of view of the economy. we were, well, not very ready for these 8 years. we also use it for training in august 2014 , there was a turning point in the hostilities between the ukrainian troops and the militia of donbass, then the forces of the luhansk and donetsk people's republics managed to drive the apu into the cauldron during the battles for ilovaisk. as a result, on september 3, the grouping of ukrainian forces was, in fact, eliminated, and in the ukrainian press, the podalavai battles were dubbed the most terrible and cruel defeat literally 2 days later, ukraine, the people's republics of
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russia and the osce signed a protocol that became the first version of the minsk agreements, crimea at that time was already more than six months. was part of russia, the events near ilovaisk - this is one of the turning points of the armed conflict in eastern ukraine, which began in 2014, those events. ultimately led to the signing of the minsk agreements in september 2014 of the year. military experts believe that if russia had tried then to win on the battlefield, the outcome would not have been obvious. our army in 2014 was also different, for example, in 8 years the number of high-precision cruise missiles in the caliber of the troops increased by almost 40 times. in 2017 , dagger missile systems were adopted, as well as three strategic submarine cruisers and coastal missile systems. russia undoubtedly has more advanced weapons than the natopian countries, the united states has lagged behind in the field of hypersonic missiles, and the nuclear
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moscow arsenal replenished with more powerful and destructive hypersonic missiles. russia's main asset moscow in this area is one step ahead of our opponents in order to prepare for a sanctions strike from outside. the west of russia also needed time 8 years ago. our country was highly dependent on foreign supplies, primarily for food. during this time, it was possible to replace imports of many products. foreign pork, for example, was completely replaced. in addition, today russia is one of the world leaders in wheat export. we work exclusively on e, russian raw materials. for our part, we are ready to fully meet the growing demand by 100% and our production program will be fully implemented. during this time, we managed to prepare the financial sector in 2014, the disconnection of our country from the swift bank transfer systems, as well as visas and a master class could leave the whole country without bank cards. not to mention the fact that this would put an end to international business and settlements since then appeared
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the russian analogue is the national system of payment cards. and today it is through it that all domestic transactions are serviced. although western payment systems. loudly, they slammed the door and left russia do i understand correctly that we also needed to critically prepare for the moment over these 8 years. i just want to pay attention. so, when alexei gennadyevich spoke, boris borisovich began there, as if he didn’t agree there, then yes he agreed, when the word determination was uttered, that is, there was no. yes? here, yes. here, let's answer now i will put it right for me the question is not whether it was ready, well, russia was already there then, so to speak, with a large-scale action, the question is wrong. it’s just that putin couldn’t start a large-scale operation with the help of the russian army in ukraine then, because the russian society was absolutely not ready for this. why questions then comrades? have you forgotten the polls? is it necessary
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to send the russian army there to help, there will be this very dpr, the answer was no, people are not ready. it was you who conducted the survey further. well, boris has an amazing decision to watch, i'll tell you now, in hindsight, when i look into the past , i understand perfectly well that putin had already made a decision then, and large-scale hostilities. it’s just that he was preparing the country for this, i’ll only say two things that directly fall into this story, the number one thing in order for russian society to become ready for this and 80% of people really support theirs, it took 10 times to increase the power of russian propaganda. for eight years , the fascists explained and argued in this way, and so on, just for reference before me in these programs, as if it were not in the past to tell everything invented, then i say, but no-no. i just say, say, yes, don’t talk, say no, but it’s just that the scale is different. i have just been participating in these programs since the late nineties. so okay
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, until the fourteenth year, one program a week was on tolstoy's first channel there , one program was solovyov on russia, this barrier and so on. now, here are a few. on the day of all channels for 8 years, it is clear that it was necessary to prepare to walk boris borisovich justice. yes it took to completely clean up the state duma there and all the parliament of some kind of opposition, which can open its mouth, and say something to the state duma last year. i have one important person. from there he said, borya, you don’t understand anything. there is a task to make a 100% loyal parliament, so even such frail oppositionists like you are so pink. here are the positioners. here are people like me in plush, hate that there wasn’t there, that no one could leave each person and ask. dear comrades, prepare
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putin, he couldn’t do it then. and now borisovich turned out in 8 years. propaganda inspired everyone. that is, what happened, well , then this begins here. excuse me, i don’t want to say a word like that rodion valerievich well , as i understand it, 8 years ago, plush. uh, the opposition couldn't prove anything, then, yes, and that's why everything changed. my point of view is somewhat different, firstly, the mood in ukraine was radically different. yes, ukraine has not yet been reloaded, ukraine has not been remade, not rebooted, and therefore a military opportunity russia was completely allowed to do all this. yes, that is, about what boris borisovich says. they are ready there, they are ready. listen. well, this is all nonsense before the crimea, which means that they didn’t swallow it, they didn’t hiccup. yes, therefore, the same story would be with ukraine and here. it would be viewed from a completely different angle. ukraine would not resist, which is to ensure that russia is carefully respected plush positioning. during this
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time, everything has changed, comrade, it was allowed from above, of course, yes, but, therefore, it means that you have two components in detail talked about economic history. here , economically, russia probably was not completely ready for the floor and there was fear before, what if swift turns off yes, and then what are we going to do with it. we are too integrated into these in this history, in a military way. russia was ready morally. russia was ready. politically, it was not clear what was against, what was against, on the contrary, that an open war had been launched against us. then there was no such understanding. it started right then. that's when, then, that's with these movements. she is the reforging of the army of ukraine completely its population is your idea. it should have been earlier earlier, when earlier it was like this, when the donbass got up on 18 19, 14 14, that is, starting from the sixteenth it was already too late right. yes , exactly o14. e. in an extreme case
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, the economy would have started in the fourteenth year by this year or it would have been seams. especially since we had the first sanctions in the fourteenth just rolled to close. yes? yes, here you still need to understand that in the fourteenth year you can it was not to recognize the results of the coup in ukraine well, then there would be more, as it were, understandable motivation and legitimization of our intervention there. and if we talk purely about the economy, then it is clear that in the fourteenth year russia was not ready. again, one must understand that no one represented in the fourteenth or twenty-first year. that such a volume of sanctions can be introduced, as it is now introduced by today's volume of sanctions it is clear that russia was not ready in the fourteenth year, we did not have a critical infrastructure, but financial. yes, we did not have finances in food independence. we did not have the information security of storing personal data on the territory of russia; all this appeared later. that's the most important thing in fact. even though she
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was not at the head of the government in the fourteenth year a little bit, there would be another very important thing. this is the transformation of russian. the elite are the russian elites that we had in 1914 and today they are two big differences, because i remember very well the crisis of 1914 fifteenth and how everything was hanging by a thread there, that is, we could collapse the abyss on well, there we were a few days from the abyss, yes, at the turn of 14 and 15 today, well, in russia despite the fact that the volume of external influence fundamentally different, but, in general, nothing moved. russia passed quietly. this one is serious - this is a serious test due to the fact that the elite that runs the country have learned something and there is one more very important thing. and we are going through the current economic crisis more or less normally, because here strong external support. and we have like a club of friends. it is called the collective
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world majority, which favorably refer to russia, china, india, turkey, and so on. here in the fourteenth year, we did not have this support group of the shadow support group. china realized that he himself would have to fight butt heads with the states. this happened in the nineteenth or twentieth year before china was. it is much more benevolent towards the united states. they tried to convince the americans that if if, and in the fourteenth year, the chinese leadership had to remove this or that side, then it’s far from a fact that they would support russia, most likely, they don’t spend politics behind them, and then we would have. well problems. there's a multiple more it's clear more than it is now, please specify alexey nikolayevich, we believe in the format that in the fourteenth year. if something had begun , would they have been introduced, yet all the same sanctions that have been introduced now? but the smell would introduce all the same sanctions, after all, it is the preparation and understanding everything they want to introduce and how we feel better. he says that these, too, 8 years
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would have been used in the fourteenth year. the west is still the same sanctions or limited to some part, look. this is fortune-telling on coffee grounds from the point of view of strategy from the point of view of the military approach. yes, the military always assumes the worst option, and one must assume that in the fourteenth year we could get. yes, the probability of some probability there is 10-15-20%. and the maximum package of sanctions and uh. well, then we would have. well, i would have to retreat. probably if the same ones were withdrawn against us that andrei vladimirovich needs to feed on fresh blood. i just want to say, well, i just witnessed some of the events of those years. i want to say the reason, actually one is that at that time we didn't have an understanding strategy. what to do with ukraine then you did. this was the biggest problem. now, if it were, if it were clearly understood in the fourteenth year, where on february 24 this strategy already had a sum.
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wait again then. putin says it could have been earlier, when 2014. i agree that it absolutely needs to be developed, that the problem is that in the fourteenth year there was no strategy. there were just a few discussions where i was present. they didn't know where to stop. now there is an understanding, where is where it was not, yes, then it was not. wait what an emphasis on strategy. here explain responsibility, where to stop here, that's when we are talking now about the understanding of the strategy to reach the western border. it was clear. sasha more than once on this said, and then there was a discussion about where to stay. just then, in 1914, andrey vladimirovich was talking about how usual, in july 1414, the word novorossiya disappeared from the political lexicon, but not by itself, but not freely forgotten, but on february 24, 22. you woke up and returned, and in the mouth of the strategy it led to
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the fact that stanislav was lighter, well, somehow, here is the fourteenth year , after all, here it appears at first glance, a russian folk proverb is good a spoon for dinner, respectively, lunch is year 2014. it is clear that, but you need to live with neighbors in peace, respecting the border to each other, but if it doesn’t work out, then you need to understand the moment when you can intervene. here, for some reason, the name of yanukovych was not, but it was expressed at least for you, although if in february 2014, when yanu was on the territory of ukraine, if not in kiev, but there, for example, in donetsk or in the crimea, if yanukovych had then been recognized legitimate president all over the world, would officially openly address the russian federation with a request. a come help restore the order is precisely as the president and, uh, the russian federation as a country and an army that marches under its own flag. they seemed to be asking for troops, of course, there were no opportunities to impose sanctions against russia, which
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officially, at the request of the president, is introducing troops for, so to speak, restoring peace and order then there was simply no sanction. we just kind of forget about it. we think that this is where it all started. do you really believe this story? but if this virtual unification of hiv turns to the actuality of me, listen to me, please, sitting in donetsk says, dear vladimirovich lead please. you think that the world community, but if enokovich asks, then yes, probably, there is no need to introduce any sanctions. he is the legitimate president, you will be sanctioned in this topic in my eyes. you are through protection in this scheme. yes , legitimate wait, who are fighting, wait, what did you run into, the formality of stanislav is easy, what he says is absolutely right. so you believe it will be there, when they, as it were, wait, he had enough. uh, so,
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uh, these planes have arrived. save. help, get me out of here. he tells you what you should have said instead. save ukraine from sanctions, because stanislav alexander says that if yanukovych had done so, there would have been no sanctions, of course, well, what would be the difference, so quiet. everyone fell silent to listen to what i was saying, but that would remove all the questions. how to proceed here? here you are given a completely legal formula. as one could have done, it was necessary to insist that these were unconstitutional coups. that would be it, so to speak, but the history of sanctions in the fourteenth year russian weapons and germany france and germany in the fourteenth year we are already behind the sochi olympics tail and mane. yes yes. yes, of course. well, okay. you tell me this about gas, about trade and other things, in
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relation to it, in the fourteenth year in the spring, the russian federation council decides to bypass the heroes, so to speak, yes, on the territory of ukraine, if necessary. this is already a legitimate story. after the fourteenth year poroshenko is elected, ukrainians choose one president for themselves, and then the second one, so what? you act on me now colleagues are suggesting a completely correct story of this january events in kazakhstan when the local authorities said the guys we need help and everyone came and showed the truth now. well, give a cue, just a cue, just like kazakhstan saved, kazakhstan and yanukovych, in fact, about 14 years old, that our army could enter yes, it could, if yanukovych acted, how the supreme commander would call his army internal troops to defend the constitution then we would go in there and take it at home before
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decisions to enter there on their own without the support of the fact that the ukrainian army is there. uh, and here the same berkut went because why they went to the donbass they said that russia invaded the donbass there, the army ran. she ran to defend her sovereignty ukrainian army. she is also a tool in the hands of politicians on their own, the army, ours there. the military-industrial complex could not get involved in these military adventures. we were at the reform stage. we allocated money so that the defense industry received new machine tools are new units on which new weapons have now been made. the army was also in the process of reform. and if at the stage of reforms you get involved in military conflicts, and your military-industrial complex is in the telephone stage. you will definitely lose this conflict. in the forty-first year, we were also in the eighth year, there was not much. that's what has been done in order to conduct full-scale hostilities, and ukraine would also not conduct full-scale hostilities and europe would not be citizens. group agreed
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. here is this whole earth to to sell pizzas, there were a lot of consequences that did not allow to risk it, so there was no such strong-willed decision to send for slaughter. and now, somehow , things are going better. we had to do our job well and not just hold them back. and then and then strangle ukraine economically, and then all sorts of moments came with our western partners. so, well, you can stop while we have some kind of such a point. of course, on the one hand, i like that they found the culprit for that side; i don’t like it easier it didn't come from it. well, yes, and yanukovych is unhappy. there abykatsya, a short break. apply for a consumer loan at the russian agricultural bank with a rate of three and nine percent per annum until december 28 and win a car. the voice
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, the place where everything becomes clear. we continue. and while there was a pause, we summarized some of the statements that vladimir putin made today, speaking before the extended board of the ministry of defense. he still continues. yes, it's still going on. this means that the first of the fact that the president has already announced that all the tasks of the special military operation will be completed, the security of russian citizens will be ensured in all territories of the country. the case, including on new ones, is a direct quote from vladimir putin second important point. and what about the partial mobilization that i found revealed certain problems that should be solved promptly, you need to pay attention to this and build the system in a new way. well, the third point. uh, this is for the nuclear triad, it is necessary to improve and maintain its combat readiness, and the sarmat missiles will soon be put on alert. these are all the words of vladimir putin. well, if something else
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appears on the information tapes before the end of our program, of course, we, of course, will tell you about we will tell this. yes, so, maybe tomorrow there will be some things. so, uh, to our conversation. so, one of the possible proofs that uh, here we are in the fourteenth year, like putin uh. now he says, e did not orient himself at the right time, as he said there. well, anyway, we're late. yes, boris borisovich threw us here today in the best traditions, what for 8 years our propaganda with his active participation, because he goes to talk shows, it turns out that he is also a propagandist for us. that's formed in the brains of the russians. awareness that it was necessary to start a special operation. we started it all thanks to. borisovich thanks everything, boryspil speech. well, the problem is that really. uh, for these eight years, e propaganda from the ukrainian side has done a lot and it's not at all a talk show. in general, in how it was settled according to what rules, but the life of ordinary citizens of ukraine went on, uh, from the
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fourteenth year with the maidan euro, when new people came to power there, let's look at the material. the other day, the french press cheered up the western inhabitants with an article about that the elderly residents of kherson sincerely sympathize with russia, they say, foreign reporters who came to the city, being interested in the attitude of the townspeople to the armed forces and ukraine, were surprised by the unexpected answer of the journalists. attributed it to nostalgia for the soviet past in kherson, the old people turned into sympathizers in moscow with the help of propaganda aimed at nostalgia for the ussr and the payment of generous old-age pensions, the russian authorities were able to find support in disadvantaged social strata. but if the older generation of ukrainians is little engaged in anti-russian propaganda, then here is the brainwashing for the youth goes with a bang. it brings up hatred for everything russian, and the russians themselves are exposed as savages who are not just friends with technology. for them, even toilet bowls, supposedly updating this nonsense, young ukrainians willingly swallow. here is a fairy tale about masha and the bears
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in a new ukrainian way. and who was it that broke all our furniture, my mother asked. bear and who stole all our household appliances asked the bear cub and who stole the toilet bowl - asked daddy, yes to her, and daddy gave her a side voice. mama bear knocked her down and the bear cub twisted her arms and legs and called the terror defense i vykal. in ukraine, pro-russian politicians were also uprooted by those who were passed over like this, for example, it happened with the former deputy of the verkhovna rada alexander vilkul, who after the maidan euro joined the ranks of the pro-russian party, the opposition bloc, then vilkul disappeared from public space. and after the start of the special operation. it suddenly turned out that the ex-deputy has been in charge of the thyro-beard of kryvyi rih literally from the first days, now he is demonstrating his loyalty to kiev in every possible way regime and acts with anti-russian
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territory after what, uh, the leadership of the russian federation did, we no longer have. ah, a shared past. we only have a different future. i think they consider me an enemy unconditionally. uh, including ideological ones, because they understand what they hear from me. well, exactly, uh, that, uh, that component of society for support, which did not count on another example of a people's deputy from the pro-russian party banned in ukraine. opposition platform for the life of nestor shufrich. shufrich in march were detained by the fighters of the ukrainian defense range, allegedly because the deputy photographed combat positions in a recent interview, the politician said that in the very first days after the start of the special operation he went to the black-bearded ones, he was even ready to defend the
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verkhovna rada , an opposition politician in ukraine, then unexpectedly became an adviser to the head of the kherson military administration. still, again, returning to this story about a russian politician about a russian party there, some kind of organization they existed relatively speaking, in the fourteenth year. that's right about russia is not. that is, here we did not even nominally exist, and even in the crimea there were very small parties, as if they were russian blogs, they occupied three three four there 5%. that is, as if formalized, that is, as such pro-russian parties in the ukrainian politics of the godmother. as they say in ukraine, yes, that is, they simply did not exist. there was no opposition bloc, it was not a pro-russian party. party of regions it has never been about the russian party. the communist party didn't either. well then, i ’ll ask in a different way, but about the fourteenth year, the ukrainians, but they believed that there were toilet bowls here in russia. no no, of course, yes. what happened if they now believe in it, of
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course, in fact, i don’t know, well , listen, firstly, but at night, when you really want to believe in any nonsense, that you start to believe in any nonsense, yes, that is therefore, in the case, but it happened, that is, when the chakras begin to open, as if to any to any stupidity, as it were, yes, that is, it is perceived. just overwhelming most look down and say, okay, okay, so be it. yes, that is, it is clear that a majority does not believe in this. well, you have to be in a dark western village somewhere in the region, i don’t know, they skipped lvov there, yes, that is, in order to believe in this nonsense , builders also came from there for years. we worked here in russia. yes, here, but then no one said these videos, no one distributed them. listen, that's it. yeah, that's all, look, yes, that is, you showed a few a few politicians, who now the man says, here we were pro-russian now we have become not pro- who was the pro-russian fork? yes? sorry this is a clan. well, the krivoy rog clan.
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his dad was the mayor, which means that his brother, that is, they own, krivoy rog yes, so it doesn’t matter what kind of power it will be. well look, who wins who wins all she will, huh? this is a shufrich. sorry this is rubbish. let me ask you in a different way, but, apart from the then donetsk and lugansk regions of the people's republics and now the regions of the russian federation, here then in the fourteenth year, in addition to donetsk luhansk, there were pro-russian minded regions. right now, about nashinsky , belarus was all pro-russian. yes, that is, of course, of course, the kharkiv region. she was in a great mood, mykolaiv region, kherson region, there and a huge number of people, even no odessa well, they were never ukrainian at all. and that's why, if we talk about that, that is, that ukraine got its bearings in time and they will close the screws in the pitchfork. yes, that is, what they quickly began to liquidate, and all the leadership groups here, which were quite unfinished. yes, because we say here. excuse the role, but
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support for this pro-russian movement. she was also quite weak. yes, not not from the side of people, but from the organizational side. that is, this was not enough, and so the mood is pro-russian, that is, all of eastern ukraine she spoke russian, she considered russia to be her business partner, economic , cultural and everything else, that is the pre-base was perfect. why do we say in the fourteenth language in the fourteenth year we are talking about the fact that there would be practically no resistance, at least in eastern ukraine it simply would not exist. uh-huh who do you want yeah hand pull. he always says with us that he and sytin are two people, yes, who says that this is it, but hatred. and now, it's me anti-russian sentiment. they don't jump. it's just that after february there will be february, indeed. no, i want to say that i can be one of many from this studio. uh, who was ukraine all these years, after 2014 more than once, but
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the problem is, yes, there were pro-russian groups, there was no pro-russian movement, there was a myth about the russian movement. cultivated by mr. medvedchuk, this was not the case. it's this thing. find one line from mr. medvedchuk saying that this is a pro-russian movement. show me at least one, of course, not pro-russian, so to speak terms, if we take his speech and so on, but really. uh, here is medvedchuk and a number of people around him formed the myth that there is a movement that will support russia in case of any action. he collapsed this myth on february 24, found it on the internet. yes, i want to say two things about, firstly, that the journalists found elderly people in kherson yes, who are from russia there is nothing surprising russian propaganda is very effective. she fits perfectly into the picture of the world of the elderly, not
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by chance support. in russia, support for our own is also, perhaps 60+ and ukraine is the same . but when we talk about massive here questions, right? there are massive questions here. i'm not captivated, i looked at the survey, just in case i quote the russian media newspaper. ru. this is not a fake ukrainian, this is a newspaper. ru. a poll was conducted in ukraine with a rating of 83% of ukrainians, this is now supported by joining nato in 83% and 86%, 86%. only 3% support joining the european union, just in case, and that the same polls were held there until february 24 , completely different numbers right up to the fourteenth year. what figures were they generally wanted in russia, the figures were in nato about 40 about 40 was split in half ukraine fans on the european union
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that's why it happened. independence there was a split, a real split, yanukovych didn’t invent it, he was a real split, half of ukraine wanted to join the euroset, but catch it there. now, i summarize, of course, and in ukraine there are people who want in russia, no one argues. these beautiful kherson grandmothers understood the soviet union great. i would also like everything to be there in russia, of course, but the question is different. unfortunately, this one the strategy that russia has chosen such closed self-sufficient and so on. it is doomed historically because it is elderly. yes , these grandmothers. here is a grandmother with the soviet flag , a symbol, kherson, you found her, but look in kherson, but comrades, dear youth, that ukrainian, which is all there employed by the european union, that russian, which does not support youth. it's about something else, it's about the world, about europe, about the house in general, about the fact that it's not good for them to solve problems with the help of bombs, missiles and storming cities. well, wrong. that's the thing, in general with all the effectiveness
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russian propaganda. she works for the elderly, she does not work for the future of the country. and the word is quite the opposite, say that there was no western propaganda before. here is this myth that the center of the universe is, as it were, the west. but london is, most importantly, the city of new york. it is his aggressiveness that was not to realize things man i want moscow to be the most important city in europe this is the smell of the bearer of the idea, only this is achieved by a man called do not speak russian should be friends in russia. my california more people speak russian than in the kherson region, much better than 3 million hadiths, i will tell you more of the rest, and the indians are our russians. they came from russia there. ask the great russian anthropologist drobyshevsky indians. it's we
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russian indians of ukraine from russia came, you know, they lived in russia across the shores 10,000 years ago was our land california so well, the show ended all the way. everything. now you will tell people for 8 years, everything a day, that california needs to be liberated, they will not believe , stop. no. i'm always looking at you i listen with interest. i am sociological surveys that are always conducted in ukraine by them. is there faith? and how do we conduct a sociological survey? this is not the one i'll show you everything now. i have another question, you say. i 'm getting an impression. i understand, yes, you don’t support this very well. look at the latest levadov's polls. there are a few others. i get the impression that you definitely don’t have a toilet bowl at home, because like this, freak out three toilet bowls, don’t freak out like that. maybe only a person who can't at the time when
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he needs to get rid of the imposition we don't need anything here. here, but the truth is, this is how it looks like. let's alexandra yes alexander please no, why do i plan here, if a person has breakfast, uh, it is necessary to pan, and i already, in my opinion , have closed this topic. let 's go let's be honest, i won't say anything about the citizens. not to mention the ukrainian people. this is also a question mark about the inhabitants of the former ukraine who are scattered throughout eurasia from portugal to the magadan region, in fact , to vladivostok. they have already implemented this plan; they are very different everywhere. i'm here. this is an example. i do not get tired of citing, more precisely, even two surguts in our surgut when
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yellow-sealing ones are hung out. so today these are publications and people stand for ukraine , no one touches them in the magadan region when my friend from donetsk went. uh, it was already the seventeenth year, uh, there were no active combat. he went to earn extra money at the mine and he was sent to the mine, he comes to the taiga, and there are two flags on the office, russian and bandera, magadan region, and then back in the seventeenth year, i know exactly this decision was when they arrived there. uh, people from the donbass didn’t take them back, because the westerners ruled everything there. there was a special order by the governor of these regions to give preference to those who have a residence permit in donetsk why yes, because we have westerners in the north. you are all in the far east. they are like one group, you say it right. well i know that builders that's how much we have a lot of banderas in the north in the far east
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just as many people in ukraine who want to be together with russia uh alexandrovich didn’t expect from you, it’s easier in moscow there are a lot of bandera before all the events there in a month, too, in this studio when some colleague said that there is darkness of darkness, darkness, darkness of february. why the darkness of darkness, it means that in ukraine there are pro-russian people, and so to speak, they only ask whistle. and how are they, how are they sociological? who speaks americans? who said what comrades here? i say they can't stand it. and who says, i always want to find these people who have stipulated what is happening with the flowers. here show yes, on the other hand, from your side, as it were , that it was said well there, turn it on, why do you have to turn it on all the time ? what does it mean that
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igor sergeevich shishkin was here, for example? how do you define them sociologically, here they are. says, but you remember in 2014 with burned in odessa house of trade unions and with. since then they have not been silent. i say, well, well, or rather bad. but how else, if they are silent then and when when they speak, when that when we talk about pro-russian, you need to understand what it is, to say pro-russian, as you understand it, and there are just russian-speaking people who do not necessarily support the russian federation is supported by a special military operation, and so on, when we talk about there, let's say some significant number of hypothetical people, there are pro-russian in odessa, you understand one thing, when you say at night they will change all the flags. there, at the city council from ukrainian to russian, they will say that russia is one of the three, and so on. you won't be against it, but pro- or pro- ukrainian. just want peace, then like none of the grandfathers so want to stop. we
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russia is three times higher than in ukraine . alexei is richer. i can't say anything about today. and if it hadn’t been, they wouldn’t have been shelling now, and donetsk would have been tens of thousands of people, hundreds would not have died thousands of people would not have left our country . a split in society, and we would have sat and discussed some new year's eve theme , or there would be another stupidity absolutely disagree would be horror without end. and those who have been in donetsk in the last 8 years understand this. well, it was a stupid fairy tale today. here is a ukrainian about the three bears. in present fairy tales must be love. well, masha got lost in the forest and got into the house. to three bears. them, naturally. no, she walks around there . there with a big plate, ate not i liked it and soldered the middle plate. didn't eat little paris. and that's it. going to sleep. so i didn’t like it on the big bed, i didn’t like it on the middle ones, i liked it on the small one and fell asleep.
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