wow, two steps back which option for a peaceful settlement suits zelensky diplomacy? this is the only way to give leakey his weapon carte blanche. this is how we ask the question. and what the world prophesies for april next year. we're not going. uh, arrange some kind of provocation about this today in our program. and this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear? i'm andrey norkin. my colleague is ivan trushkin. we are working live. well , less than a week is left before the new year. the western world and our friends and enemies have gone to christmas holidays, nevertheless ukrainian bosses. they continue to attract everyone's attention with their vigorous activity. well, of course, first of

all, we are talking about the features and details of zelensky's visit to washington, many are asking questions. how did he fly back? that is, if he was brought there, we saw it, but on an american plane there, accompanied by the american military, then somehow there were no pictures back. they say that almost on a regular scheduled flight. i am i read so from this here, of course i hope, no, well, it seems, as directly there longer. here social networks, of course, go crazy from his communication with some. the final grandma that ended up there in the house of representatives, that is, if before we all thought that the most amazing miracle in the american parliament is nancy pelosi. nevermind. there is also this old woman, who is 31 years old. she works in the house of representatives as the leader of a faction of some sort in general, i already like progressiveness. that's the kind of goyka mitichah she

is. well, it looks like indians. in general, this strong, of course. well, okay, and if we talk about serious publications and large ones, then there hmm, we now want to start with two large publications , one street pulled, the second is being discussed by you. this is how boris nikolayevich would say for gagulin, so let's john they write the following that supposedly, and zelensky explained it to everyone there. and what is ukraine ready and will fight until its military victory, while giving me now so that i don’t go astray, they supposedly kiev are working on a revised version of the peace agreement, and what? there are also curators i don’t really understand the process and from the big seven, so tolya kiev should develop and then show it to the big seven, or representatives of the big seven, along with zelensky, are sitting there and discussing

this plan, but in any case, some kind of implementation of these proposals, perhaps only after this military escalation occurs. this, too, no one doubts is another question. so what are the results. this escalation will lead at the beginning of next year there in this favor or in this favor, where the bowls will lean, behold, proceeding from this, then this mirny certain option will be proposed and it is rather difficult. in my opinion, however. let's take a look at this math article now. the publication, he stands jornul, referring to sources, claims that the visits of the president of the terrorist zelensky washington and dmitry medvedev to beijing indicate the preparation of the parties for a new round of searches not at all for peace zelensky asks the united states urgently to give him more weapons long-range guns to ukraine escape from the well. but now we see that ukraine needs them. i may seem

naive, but i can not waste time and already give ukraine more opportunities to regain its territories once and for all. his answer is yes, i agree. beijing, according to the building , has finally decided and unconditionally sided with moscow as evidence that the decision of the chinese leadership to expand trade with russia, as well as the rhetoric about the readiness to get closer for the sake of confrontation, dictated to the west between china and russia north as the monolith, they are not subject to interference and provocation. they are not afraid, major changes in the conjuncture of russia ukraine coincide, they seek to improve their negotiating positions due to a turning point on the battlefield, citing european diplomats, the newspaper

claims that putin is determined to launch new offensives between february and april and therefore is not interested in negotiations the russian president claims the opposite the goal is not, uh, to spin this flywheel conflict, but on the contrary, to end this war. we strive for this and will continue to strive, we we will strive to ensure that, hmm , this is finished, and the sooner the better, of course, while the journalists introduced intrigue by saying that the kiev authorities were preparing the anniversary of the start of the special operation, that is, on the twenty-fourth of february 2023, some finalized project terms of the peace plan will depend on the current state of affairs for a break, us ukrainian and nato officials have said that kiev’s negotiating position if discussions begin will depend entirely on the status quo of the front, and therefore

ukraine wants to prepare for potential peace talks by achieving military victories. so well, andrey vladimirovich what inaccuracies are there in john's article, if they are there? well, there is accuracy there, not that there is. let's go then. that's what you know has already been prepared, and they are agreed with the members of the big seven. this work is in progress and the big seven has the right and opportunity to change something in these proposals. well, at this stage it is simply not required. so, it’s just that she is now all the countries of the seven informed of these plans. about the schemes, here are three options for the development of events. as for the current situation, i think it is a huge mistake to think that ukraine will weaken there by february april, on the contrary. uh, like i said at the end of hmm december. now she has come. a new batch of weapons will arrive at the end of january, e, the pk srk, the eu-germany will arrive

protected and by the end of february, from my point of view, the ukrainian army is much stronger in terms of providing weapons. and uh, it might just be the same based that they don't want to impose on negotiations that well unfortunately. in general, for us, the extreme. so they want it and want to say or still they are in charge one moment we did not agree any negotiations will be defeats in russia wait for the negotiations means, and as far as i understand the article. uh, wall street jornab, first something must happen at the front, and then negotiations, so you said that according to your estimates, the ukrainian army will be much stronger by the end of february than it is now, and does this mean that the ukrainians will go on the offensive achieve some success will give them the opportunity to enter already means , moreover, the ukrainians want to get ahead of us. that's all. they are well aware that we, too, are

preparing for the operation in february, and therefore, so to speak. here, uh, naturally, they will understand all this perfectly, in your opinion, all the same, and there , as it is envisaged, and military changes in this status, about which the ukrainians write, win. you say yes, let's do something now, then we will try to solve it now, or they allow some kind of military success for russia and then this completely different conditions in the newspaper. so it is written they do not allow military success, russia is talking about yes, not absolutely, and we are talking about what the ukrainian army should take by march. it is clear why it is necessary to invent some. if you are sure that you win, and not your opponent, then you just crush him there , no realist negotiations. they understand the realists, which means they understand that russia, that they are still planning an offensive at the end of february. this is, uh, full

control over the kherson region. it liberation of 560% of the donetsk region. this is what they are unrealists, they are going to reach the crimea realists. yes, they are realists, they understand, but in this situation. do you think that russia will be forced to pass the treaty. realists, by the way, and then about these three options. yes, yes, i think that's what i meant, that in another article there is a position that was said many times in the current conditions, the russian armed forces are capable of carrying out deep offensive operations to defeat the armed forces of ukraine, uh, v. for several months, once, the second ukrainian armed forces. by uh january. these, even by the end of february, to create a grouping capable of being carried out without any conditions, namely, a breach of defense unfolded in a purely armed way, there are 300-400 tanks, 500-600 armored combat vehicles , about 1,000, artillery guns,

they simply cannot no, attack with forces, better across the field or in light trucks without armor. this is suicide. therefore, zelensky’s statement and these statements, by the way, followed back in the first days even that they cannot calculate the offensive are based on one thing. he is firmly convinced that they will be able to force russia to retreat by the political life of good will. this was done after the istanbul talks and so on, or at least to prevent political measures will prevent a decisive russian offensive. that, in fact, is the whole idea, and with our offensive, what are our thoughts, because we have not shown everything now. naturally from the speech of our president. he says there further that hen grain by grain pecks, and of course we won't,

because it's a risk of loss, hen pecks grain by grain, which means we're taking a fortified area. and so it is, if hitler had gnawed through the line of his wife grain by grain, we would have stayed there and would have loaded it until the 21st century. uh, on the same direction, putin turns out. he seems to put everyone. this is how he tries to confuse. excuse my head, i’ll say about putin and his statement, which means, uh, the basis of the foundations, any military action of any scale is the achievement of surprise when we we are talking about operations, we are talking about ocean-active surprise, to say in advance that we will now make deep strikes. this is wildness yeah, so he is the president very correctly formulates these tasks. yes , it’s impossible for you to know enough about this,

but i’m talking from a military point of view, that in order to solve problems, taking into account those factors that they talk about the supply of weapons. this, uh, is only possible by solving the problem well , the moment that by february for such large-scale deliveries, which i cleared, but ukraine is basically impossible. just wanted would be possible there delivery from con. the american continent once, and secondly, due to the fact that they simply do not have stocks of, er, old soviet weapons, they are not exhausted. wait, how impossible, but with airplanes it ’s a very long time, or something, let’s start with the fact that it’s possible with transport airplanes? count any transport aircraft so that here, too, c-17. uh, it means either c5 galaxy 130, well, that’s it, 130, i’m generally silent 20 tons load, what are you talking about, but c17, here he can take at best, there are 40 tons. it has long range payload it will take 30 tons across the ocean, c5 has a

maximum load of 120 tons, but at the large radius at the limit of the radius it will go across the ocean. he will take a maximum of one tank there. how many flights does he have, so that 400 flights, so that only tanks can be transferred perfectly fine this is one and a half, and you are one and a half potential, as potential. this is one and a half s33, which were in ukraine that is, it is one and a half times at all . well, this one. well, what is it like in soviet times, given that this is the only long-range anti-aircraft missile system of nato countries and in general western civilization. since soviet times, we have carefully worked out methods of combat in all exercises, and not with one of these there, but entire air defense systems in the theater of operations by pressure, like there, well, these things have been worked out. i don't even talk about it. this is one,

maximum disagree. he always has three deliveries. let's look forward to the politics of the newspaper can not say. here is a blow to the pengels. this is another test of the sawless's resolve. yes, there is this, yes, these are already cruise missiles, yes, official ones. the department of defense has not yet seen, so let's have man. yes, i hit everything. but the citizens yes, attention has already been inflicted by a swift. and what is a swift, this is your awareness, andrey vladimirovich leads us to suspect all sorts of suspicions . yes, then understand what a swift is, which was money. yes, this is a 8.6 m long bandura with a 2.4 m wingspan and a weight of 1.230 kg. and 1.200. no. well,

you mean with a full load. naturally , he took off. that's how it flew. this bandura flew 700 km in a straight line and hit in a straight line almost in a straight line. do you know how she went. you know how she went, right? how did she go oh my god from northern kazakhstan let's go back to the scenarios that were designated by adrena vladimirovich this is the second publication that came out this weekend of this edition. she interviewed as many as 10 newspapers interviewed as many as 10 sources in the white house and all these 10 sources in the white house. they say that the terrorist president zelensky brushes aside all any proposals to sit down and talk about some kind of peace plan you tell them. let's fix it, comrades, americans. you do not worry, but the americans do not really believe this. and now washington simply, again, citing sources, cites three possible

options. andrei vladimirovich mentioned. we will now tell in more detail the three possible peaceful options that the united states is proposing, which means that the first of these scenarios implies the withdrawal of russia from all liberated territories and the return of ukraine to the borders of the ninety-first year, when even crimea was the ukrainian second scenario. it provides for the withdrawal of troops to the line before the start of a special military operation. our that is, under the control of russia, it leaves apart. part of the lpr and part of the dpr well, the third option is the withdrawal of our country from the donbass but with the preservation of crimea for us, as journalists say, the last two scenarios, when the president remains at least something behind moscow, the terrorist zelensky immediately rejected. these wishlists are treated in the white house, because in a conversation with journalists about zelensky’s new refined peace formula, us secretary of state anthony blinkel pointedly lowered kiev’s claim to crimea and did not elaborate. what kind should ukraine accept borders under a

potential peace plan? let's take a fragment. here are glinkin's interviews and listen to security say the biden team is going to work with zelensky to review their peace proposal. do you want to put forward an updated peace plan that will be supported by the us along with ukraine what we have heard from the ukrainians in recent months is an intense focus on the return of territories in the east and south, which have been largely captured since february. that's where their main focus was, but it's not in no way predetermines where it will go. and where does it all stop? again, this is a decision that the ukrainians must make anri nikolayevich did i understand mr. blinkin correctly here it was said in plain text, please be satisfied with the line on february 24 she will not help you anymore, or i misheard. no,

you know, there was such a good soviet detective film, also from life. west mirage was called there a dialogue of two heroes. and i speak on the other, what do you think, where should i best send this document to white house or to the pentagon ministry it is best to send it wrong, here are all the wishlist and all these notorious dimensional plans that are connected there. from our point of view, it is best to send the states and ukraine to the toilet, because none of these options suits us in any way. and if the pentagon believes that ukraine should limit itself to something. these are the problems of the united states, you understand, is there a conversation going on? what they decide inside themselves, what something of this can arrange. that's why why at all andrei nikolayevich perfectly understands that none of these three options categorically integrates with us. why is it then that the sensations of informational stuffing are just counting on some such, you know, here is such a fluctuation within russian politics. this is something that someone would agree to political action. yes, well, because you understand, here he

is right about what, you understand, the soviet finnish war, vyacheslav mikhalych molotov says at the last negotiations. firm before the start of hostilities. the diplomats said they did everything now i will speak military and warmth in the arena, half appeared only when the line of the monarchy collapsed and the question arose that helsinki could lose everything, that's when diplomats appeared. agreement etc. etc. and we get it, they start something military, then once diplomats begin, the troops stand near kiev, then they no longer stand near kiev , someone diplomats appear and diplomats do not appear success. and this, this, this, this is it, and it does not make it possible to achieve the result that should be achieved and now here it is again a sketch to the same degree. but let's, perhaps, we can. here they agree. let's do this here. but this is how i will remind you once again, maybe no one has already forgotten the constitution of the russian federation . and we have all these territories there, including the kherson and zaporozhye regions, which is part of the russian federation, so we even talked about this topic zelensky can want whatever he wants, because excuse me, the main argument of the russian federation

regarding people who love to fight is not the grounds for it are applied, the actions in the engels are direct; they are prescribed by the military doctrine of the russian federation as the basis of state policy in the field of nuclear deterrence. well, as for weapons, about which andrei vladimirovich spoke, i take this more calmly, because so far. there really is no clear articulation of large deliveries , one battery, four launchers or eight are supposed to be deployed in lviv, one rocket costs $ 4 million, which is 200 times more expensive than one flightless one, unmanned installation of geranium-1 or grand 2. well, if i quickly score rockets , it will end economically, it will still not be profitable from my point of view. here are all these proposals. it is clear that they are not acceptable, but this is an attempt to open a little overtone window. for now, we are starting with a discussion of the borders of the first year, but borders are already being announced, special operations have begun, and so on, and in the future, perhaps, the americans will offer kiev completely different conditions. as the situation changes

approximately, yes? well, for example, uh, partition of ukraine on the dnieper, but, for example, something similar to some kind of temporary status, which, of course, is now impossible to offer kiev, including, because it would be a loss of face for the american administration, but they keep the negotiation process. yes, of course, if some party of the world suddenly fights here, which will say we are ready from these here to the urals, they will say, well, let's go now to the urals unconditionally. well, i think that, of course, it’s unlikely , because the society, uh, wait, but uh, the section on the dnieper, uh, as far as it should then the military picture will change so that they start discussing such an option, that is, we must do what andrei vladimirovich should do to move apart, how much can there be? and i am convinced that none of us now even knows konstantin valentinovich as a professional military man these scenarios, maybe this will be a deep coverage. maybe it will be a blow to the conversation. or maybe it will just be a slow but sure grinding of the enemy, which is now going piece by piece.

in any case, this probably implies control over a number of large cities, such as decisive departure. if they do n’t take it into account when they go here, everything needs to be taken into account here, even the ukrainian expert yes, even the arrestees already say that yes, 23 is a decisive year for us, because in this twenty- third they will still help us. let's yes , ukrainian experts. you saw mr. arrestovich, as if latynin's offensive and the latter is gone, in shorts enters the frame. god made peace twice. what are you all about? well, tell me then, they're all watching. what is it called stream, in front of this very monitor something slides from the right side into a man enters the frame, but now, no matter how sad the lower plan is a shirt and shorts, and such beautiful family long striped shorts. yes, and something, it means there, and she is sitting there, just a sofa, some kind of carpet, there is something and he is trying to do something there, and she is looking at this monitor. so everything is

on him by his hand. this means that she is already expelled from the frame and these cowards disappear, and she continues her examination. i forgot julia wearable foreign agent or not, just in case, yes, let's. yes, sorry, it all depends on the complex in which includes not only the military situation, but also the economic one. critical and many others, and they can all be very unfavorable for ukraine about 2023. andrei vladimirovich called us the word february and regularly. i heard , maybe by some, but by a defining place, it means that the german expert is the german press, citing their military stories, writes that this is another month, this is april next year. at the same time, uh, the german ministry of defense is talking about this ukrainian armed forces, supposedly they are now actively preparing for this, and at the same time they say that supposedly, again, according to their description, by april, we will not have such readiness. an extremely voluminous grouping saturated with armored vehicles, uh, infantry fighting vehicles, for example, aviation artillery, and so on

, there is none of this. and that's it. this can be very effectively destroyed by our say, so according to the military correspondents in the western regions of ukraine , at least four new brigades are now completing coordination. wow, another 15,000 recruits. first of november train in europe as part of the so-called military aid mission in support of ukraine, the headquarters in the mission's apartment was opened in brussels and germany, and the tactical command will be located in poland. the terrorist president zelensky was delayed there on his way from washington. good to see you. how nice to see you. how are you doing? thank you very much. wearing the interaction i told him about what the united states had heard about our strategic vision. next year, we are getting ready, we are strengthening our common forces that ukraine aimed to attack next year, the head of the presidential office said the day before ukraine andriy yermak in an interview with a newspaper. the guardian is true. even ukraine's beloved

british press doubts the plausibility of these plans. yermak declined to say when and where ukraine might launch the next offensives, but predicted that 2023 would be the turning point in the war in question. does winning include? the return of crimea, he answered absolutely, the us administration did not directly support zelensky's intention to return the peninsula, a mission that, according to most analysts, would be problematic for the ukrainian army. you can do it all somehow tie it into one rope, because the ukrainians tell us, we are ready to attack february, april, it is not clear when the americans say this. here are three options for a peace plan. hmm. can you think about it somehow. i say no, we are ready to arrange. here's how you can tie it all together. where to? in which direction does the wind blow, the west is quite satisfied with the current situation and they are quite satisfied with the fact that all three options are completely unacceptable for russia at the moment, but forbids that russia suffers

losses, including in human resources russian standards are dying. the whole of russia suffers significant economic losses, while the west itself does not bear any special patient resource. they are fighting ukrainians and intend to continue to fight in this way as much as possible, and therefore from the point of view. the west is on its way. very good. everything goes according to plan. well, not according to plan. eh, you see, this is according to the plan. better than one side or the other. this, i think, is not to be said, because how will these plans go according to plan or not according to plan. this is us we'll see, because there are guarantees that the ukrainian new ukrainian counter-offensive will be successful. if it happens next year, there aren’t any, then what they did, but in the kherson region or what they did in the kharkiv region does not mean that they will succeed again and also regarding the new russian offensive , there are no guarantees that, uh, yes, perhaps a better prepared offensive that it will have, but there are no such guarantees of great success either, and therefore

here it will be necessary to look at how it is in the theater military operations, the actual situation will develop. and based on this , some new proposals will be made, but here it must also be said that these a talk about what is possible, bogdan said, about what is possible, and the americans or the west will someday agree to a truce near the dnieper the fact is that at the present time. yes, i mean, there are two points, firstly, before some kind of russian troops, then here is the dividing line under the dnieper now as before mars. that is, this is this. uh, how long will it take? and this is a big question, and secondly, for the west, in principle, yes, there is even if we could imagine such a fantastic option at the moment, it is very positive for russia when russian troops are actually reaching the dnieper river and such a situation is developing even in this situation even in this situation, there is no reason for the west to

agree to a truce. why does she remember? that when the soviet border was almost completely closed on both sides, both from the side of the soviet union and from polish people's republic in the late forties and early fifties, even then the resistance banned in russia, uh, the ukrainian insurgent army. it went on for nine long years, when the west supplied them with something there, there were certain assistance, but it was not even close to what is now generally appearing like this, and they killed one second in these nine long years. they killed 40,000 ukrainian soviet citizens. they did it with very limited resources. why would the west agree to such unfavorable conditions under the dnieper if they can continue to use the rest of any, the remaining territory of ukraine, any everything will stop everything will stop only in one case, if we completely take the entire

ukrainian territory, because if so, they continued ukraine, we are on uh -huh, they quickly, quickly throw up throw up . yes , so that this resistance is stronger, so that more russians are killed, ukraine begins to put a little pressure. here it can be held back a little, because it is interesting that this conflict should continue if the russians finally win no one to help. well then, yes, then the whole story will not startle, in my opinion, in russian yes , he waved his hand, when it was said that there would be no division along the dnieper no, i waved my hand much earlier, when they began to analyze, and military-logistical issues. eh, from my point of view. this is an analysis at the level of the mouth of the marshal column because not only military logistical forecasts. until today, nothing has been realized on the other side. therefore, this topic can be left. uh. i agree with respected

opponents who say that all current settlement plans are unacceptable for russia yeah, i understand perfectly well that for the ukrainians it is their victory to completely return their territory. let's leave out of the brackets for now with or without crimea, but they want to return their territories, which is from my point of view. naturally. and what is completely unpleasant a little later. yes, because it means recognition of the constitution and so on. everyone knew this, which means that it is a victory for russia, in short , the transformation of ukraine into a kind of belarus but somehow that's not clearly visible. here on it it is possible to put an end. what is a victory for the usa here, uh , an interesting question arises, because , well, they turned ukraine into a kind of belarus over. uh, the tricolor

russian flag beats like a lion, and everywhere it means they play russian anthems and russian marches and so on. but then that's nothing the victory of the americans. she's here, i agree. from victor why is this yes, a blurry thing that weakens russia as much as possible, americans men are change in the political social system and the place of russia, that is, practically new russia, how is it accepted or her? wait then you have to go back. i then stopped talking and said a little later to the first point. what does the victory mean for ukraine, the return of all territories, i agree, but they still talk about it. that and the kuban - this is ukrainian territory, israel is. here. you are a serious empty perception and ukrainians, as far as i can understand them now, they will be quite satisfied. here is the return of everything that ukrainians were completely satisfied with.

yes, i'll tell you one proverb later. well , okay. i understood you. andrey petrovich andrey petrovich one more time. why did zelensky turn out to be washington biden invited him in order to push money in congress? and of course, they flew in and naturally they pushed through, because the shift change on january 3 will already have a new line-up. but it was not by chance that nancy pelosi called everyone on the old one. let's come come listen to zelensky biden completed the task he wanted, but now it turned out that this is what it turns out the united states is so weak that they invite zelensky to push him money. and let's put on a show with negotiations , the ancients said that negotiations are the most difficult process to show one's strength. so they began to show their strength by offering

10 projects, they left three, and in what they show their strength, a demonstration of strength is offered completely for negotiations, but russia does not want we are strong, but russia does not want to. we are well aware that so far on the line. combat contact is all for us. so such a show option was proposed in mass media, negotiation process. this covered up zelensky’s visit to washington in order to push through this money , suggesting that they believe that everything on the line of contact is not entirely for us, or that everything is far from being for us in their vision, and therefore they act like experts openly. they say no, but we need to show the whole world that yes. so this show was arranged with these options, which, well, do not

suit us at all. they show once again that they are peace-loving white fluffy, and you see russia 's aggression, taking into account those, uh, cautious disagreements that are associated with the process of supplying weapons, there may be andrei petrovich's version and has the right to exist, but let's get back to it in a couple of minutes. in the changes that have taken place in the fate of each of you, i want to offer you a job. what kind of work? this detail is very much out of the overall picture. vladimir ilyin , punishment must inevitably overtake everyone. who will commit a wrongful act. victoria zabolotnaya on the corners ivan batyr,

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in white shirts they go biden macron, talk and biden. so she tells him. yes, we have already sent you millions there, there are shells, there is everything, and a macron. so, he says, yes, i don’t need it, i’m macron and biden, the second replica. but we won't send pasta. we don't have grain, that's what andrey petrovich said a few minutes ago about the fact that this whole story hmm was started in order to push new deliveries of weapons to ukraine between american european partners. i've called them timid disagreements, they exist. yes, they are really very insignificant, but it is obvious that the europeans do not really like the fact that the americans make their own decisions about supplies to ukraine more and more new types of weapons once and twice, so that later after that they begin to put pressure on the same europeans, so that they, too, are additionally supplied with something like that. yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, by

europeans i mean jews, of course, the european union there great britain is a separate story, but the germans are french. here they are signing up. give us, please, the material following on the eve of the national telethon , ukrainian foreign minister dmitry kuleba said that nothing is impossible for kiev and very soon thanks to the perseverance of diplomats. everything you need with his western weapons will be in ukraine, he will not supply herds of complex weapons. in the west. no, you just need what is called a push. and if he doesn't respond to threaten, we're out of the woods. he should just speak. we say a very simple thing to our partners. if you honestly, in collusion with the russians, took away our nuclear weapons as a deterrent to russia and russia attacked us, then now be kind. give us all the non-nuclear weapons we need so you can defend against russia. this is how we ask the question. as an example of such successful pressure, kuleba called the long-awaited us permission to put zenith on

the patriot missile system in ukraine. what kiev has been dreaming of for several years now is a weapon that is expensive to receive again even among nato countries. of course, one patriot system will not become a catalyst for changes for ukraine militarily. rather, they will be able to somewhat improve the security of their infrastructure facilities, more likely. in total, in the kiev region, the us decision came as a shock to berlin in recent months, germany fought back from kiev's demands to share patriots, pointing out that such weapons are not supplied to ukraine through the alliance, now they are hiding behind another argument, they say that everything that was available was sent to poland after the november story with the fall of a ukrainian air defense missile on a polish tractor and shared with ukraine still has nothing . it's not that germany does not want to take a concrete step, but that there are no available systems. although we welcome this move by the united states, immanuel macron also gave

enturio street journal and said a lot of things that are simply terrible by today's european standards, saying that the eec should, for its own security, reduce dependence on the united states within nato , there is no european security architecture without strategic autonomy in nato and with nato, but an alliance independent of nato is not on which i depend. this is what i choose europe should receive technological and energy autonomy, including in relation to the united states, this is some kind of stupid french president with his own and security architecture is not the first time they explain it to him, but he continues andrey nikolaevich in fact, everything is just a matter of what is here what is it that worries, so in fact, don’t worry about europe, the united states is relatively speaking, it is possible that the transition to combat actions on the part of russia yeah, that is, when no one will play these in static containment and there is the prevention of strikes on that one,

and for example, relatively speaking, will not be engaged in liquidation. there, first, the leadership of the military and everything else in ukraine for the complete destabilization of this territory in order to supply weapons there was no one. why, in fact, the issue of supplies, probably, was discussed there for so long in the first weeks and cautiously because they really believed that somewhere in a month they would already be delivering. there was simply no one to see complete disorganization, the absence of any leadership. well, such a scenario of the polish company of the wehrmacht in 3 weeks, when excuse me, yes, some kind of resistance occurs, but it is not organized. but when it turned out that we will repeat again. for the most part, we will invite the negotiation process, so here people will ride back and forth. what the macron is really afraid of when he speaks in european, he is well aware that even if something goes for the maximum escalation, as they say, we will call it that the united states is far away. but all the representatives of the european bloc nato will arrive. call it figuratively, i say that and

forgive andrey and that france will arrive, what am i saying that if the escalation crosses a certain line, we will get combat actions on the european continent that russian armats will go to france or russia sarmat will go to france is unlikely to happen. and how what gives what will arrive in france you do not know what will arrive in france no. it means that what will fly to france is that you are being charged at a certain strategic level, and in france there are retaliatory ones, they have nuclear ones, i’ll tell you, please, it’s not going to. and in fact, europe is holding on it is for the fact that it will not come to this, you understand that france does not eat anything and the united states at the level of politics. they say that even local nuclear strikes on the european continent are acceptable. this is not very good for europeans. clear. why why are you arguing to change and viktor rzd is here , obviously, the story of andrey nikolayevich, well. it seems to me explains that this is exactly what the french president is afraid of, because somehow you will listen to me to the

end yes, with certain actions that are not controlled by the french president in any way, which he cannot influence in any way, the situation can develop in this way , that russia will be so damaged that we will simply answer. reply. we then in every possible way, we will answer everyone, including the president of france, which, of course, he doesn’t want, which we don’t want, listen, well, when a nuclear bomb arrives in moscow, the same one will fly into paris vector burns you understand i repeat again the president of france is afraid of tao, these are all his statements about the architecture of european security, that those actions that he can not control the american freaked out these khokhlov sorry someone else can lead to such a development of events and will be completely satisfied with his realists. let's mean

three countries have nuclear weapons in the west in the west, the united states great britain and france means, and any of these means france and uh, so you say if a nuclear strike is inflicted on moscow by whom the united states will be inflicted, not france yes territory. in this case, a full-scale nuclear war will begin. there is nothing at all in the west, and nothing will remain of russia, neither russia nor western countries in that none of alexander nikolayevich said that the ukrainians would be satisfied with the return. yes, it means that their territories will never be developed there in the kuban, and i have a different point of view. i think that there are quite a few completely frostbitten frostbitten people who not only want cuba there, they return or return something else, and if they fail to do so, they can develop some kind of plan and blow up the same the dirtiest bomb, what do you think they can't do it? here it sits for you normally it sits for you touch, says no problem. give that something will arrive to france and what will arrive?

including france, which supplies arming this, supplies ukraine, including information of nuclear weapons, if nuclear, if there is no exchange of nuclear strikes , nor russia, you are awarded the honorary title of captain of evidence, but we all know there is nothing in this france is not to fly. this is joy, so we must deal with this threat. it seems very serious to me, because when everyone is sure that this will not happen, because this will never happen there podstava alexander nikolayevich and he will fly in, by no means at the initiative of france, as he has repeatedly said. and that's because we see absolute political information and i would say

mental preparation for the fact that russia may, as it were more correct to say , initiate extreme measures. let's say. tomorrow i will have to answer it there. well, and accordingly, i don’t know what will have time there or not have time to fly in response. but the fact that russia is preparing information, but for such an attack. for me, it's completely manga. the whole attacked lies just on the surface well. e concretizes, just as it lay on the surface, er, those decisions that were finally taken on february 24th. they lay on the surface for many years during the information campaign on but suffering to several luhansk people, kapets. i just do not agree with viktor zhezlovch, even a local even, uh, super-regional nuclear conflict, there can be quite a limited

exchange. one two hits. then the birds. wait. i did not finish even from france, but in any case, in any case, uh, in politics , politics is a very cynical thing, they sit down and say that yes, to avoid this very conflict, even after local or some kind of nuclear strikes, but they will suffer, as they said, sidorchik europe will not have to strike for the us and for european countries, maybe they are before the nuclear exchange. you can still stop, by the way, in an american way , perhaps a local nuclear war, that is, well, no matter where. well, in this case, everything is in ukraine and poland. well, it also starts at the neural site. one of the the side that is preparing to accept this weapon. here are the views of the same americans. they say that we can strike defiantly. let's say. e on the nu pole or some other point where there is no one to demonstrate determination, which in itself can force. there is nobody there. the

radiation damage zone is large, so this is probably quite, perhaps, i'm not talking about us. i'm just saying that one of the parties can do this, so move on to a full exchange, even to an exchange of single nuclear strikes between two or three countries. it is very difficult. here is the only worst thing that i can guess is the best. this is what e, a decision will be made to deliver 1 2 nuclear strikes in the event of a successful offensive by our troops at some points, we will strike back. and after that, everything will be reduced to nothing. yes, let's take a break now. let's continue in a few minutes. getting ready for the new year

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, we hope that in the end, who in europe stood up to protect the money of russians from the west, it's time to see the difference between money. why does kyiv need russian yachts and planes? oligarchs, ukraine will pay this money to its soldiers. and how ukraine decided to make money on russian oil. they are trying to limit moscow's oil revenues about it right now. this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. we continue. i think that we need to bring in some small fraction of common sense and calmness, otherwise we had some frightening forecasts in uh, at the end of the previous part, dear friends, everything will be fine. do not worry. well, for some time it will probably not be very pleasant, but then everything will be fine. i just want to tell you not to be nervous later the program the meeting place will be with you until the end

of this year. we work all week. our last broadcast this year is december 30th. here, and then we will go on vacation for 2 weeks and return, again on the air, as usual, on january 16, 2023 on monday, so please do not write the traditional request, but to yes, so antonch, you can come here, there maybe guys you something yeah yeah. therefore, give me a letter where you've gone program. we will all return. so i will meet with you later, what creaks. on january 18, we already have such a traditional meeting at the club. magnus lukusa, and on the 4th of february i will come to the pskov house of officers for the first time. i would have been waiting. well, about everything, we will tell it like this now. and about step forward two steps back, if from the first part we talked about these strange uh, well, how would such scenarios be military, that is, it

seems like everyone is going to talk about regulation, but only after at first, everyone will fight properly. if you want peace, prepare for war. now we have not a military, but such a financial and economic topic, but the oddities are the same. let's you have already understood from the announcement that we are now talking about our frozen money, but let's talk. and what happens to them, do you remember there are state assets that have been frozen, and there are private assets that have also been frozen, that is, it seems like this money is still ours, but we cannot use it and see private ones, yes ursula fondyrlyan. uh, chief gynecologist. yes, europe a million times has already been stated that it is a very complicated process, but it is necessary. to somehow think over how to take this money and give it back means to the unfortunate ukrainians. yes and here we are faced with uh some new ones. i don't

know the facts. the fact is that a number of european countries do not touch our state assets, but the frozen private one unfreezes. after which he speaks. here we are now freeing you a handful of your money from these restrictions. and here you are, conditionally speaking, a week is fast take them from here. what it is, frankly, is not very clear yet, but why did this process go on in any country in europe ? that there is no procedure for the withdrawal of unfrozen assets yet, but taking into account the christmas and new year holidays. obviously, there will not be enough time to withdraw funds, while there is no explanation of what will happen after the deadline, in anticipation of all holidays, given that holidays.

uh, we have christmas in europe, then the new year holidays and do not forget that this is all in the background. uh, after all, the manual mode of operation is for these organizations associated with the sanctions. under pressure, the vast majority will not be able to take advantage of the possibility of transferring their papers. as for the funds , they hoped that most of this could still come in switzerland of this fillet in the seizure of russian assets and decided to completely abandon 159 billion dollars at the end of this year decided. freeze eight switzerland is being criticized for being too lenient in its application of sanctions, but local officials shrug. i think it's time to see the difference between the money that belongs to businessmen who fell under the eu sanctions and assets that are not related to this in the eu with the assets that fell under the sanctions of russian businessmen, there were also difficulties with the withdrawal mechanisms, so far no, how there is no proof of the state origin of these

capitals. you understand that you can not withdraw funds at any cost. this is a complex legal procedure. it is necessary to prove that these russian assets in europe are of state origin. only then will ukraine be able to claim them. and for this, legal justifications are also needed. against this background , there were suggestions of possible unfreezing of state assets and the volume of russia's gold and foreign exchange reserves hanging in the west is estimated at $300 billion in international investors in shares , bonds and company shares by at least $310 billion. we hope that in the end, rationality will triumph and when you can sit down at the negotiating table and start a discussion about unfreezing, both on the one hand and on the other, therefore, we also have something to offer

western countries, and therefore everything will depend from their desire. e to conduct such a dialogue, what kind of thaw is this some kind of little? it is clear when silanov says. and readiness means, uh, someday he has a key there word once? well, that is, it's such an easy one, positive optimism - this does not apply to today's situation, in general, in no way and at the nearest enterprises, what better is run and luxembourg, right? yes, yes, yes, yes , two topics were correctly separated. the first state another, private. in this case, private assets are also divided into two things. so the first thing. this is connected with everything that with sanctions against specific ones, i don’t know, there is an oligarch. all the rest. it does not concern this at all, moreover, unlocking in belgium or the netherlands implies only assets those people who did not fall under the sanction, what happened they imposed sanctions at one time. as a result, the guys introduced this

national settlement depository from the shares, which can exchange, and as a result, the securities of our russian shareholders hung there. well , ordinary people are individuals, including, that is, if for example, you bought something through it doesn't matter, foreign stocks. it's up to you or to be yours, the shares are also understood. yes, i am unfortunate owners of such shares, but or not, happy in the sense that they are unhappy in the sense that they are blocked, but in general. if you have money, then happiness, by the way, you now, wait, understanding for understanding that what we have blocked we have hung in the west. because of all these things, about 5 million people in russia own 320 billion rubles worth of western shares. this is the question of god or a poor country in our country, we have a very different country. we have who last well these people. now that they can somehow start using their money again and dancing, but it's still some site. yes, the point is that the deadlines are set, that there really are

big risks that just from these actions will not be in time. and if they do not have time, then it is clear that it will be possible to continue further. can any of the type or not. andrey, on the contrary, yes, what was it, in the first place, do you have it now? the audience understood that we were talking about anton with his rights about money, not about money , but only securities about prices , securities, and securities - this is a very complex mechanism and toilet paper becomes very valuable so, so you understand all this ingredients that depend. in what no there is therefore to hope. this has nothing to do with it at all. this is a purely technical thing. then it will tell you why this is a technical thing, no, of course, they said so, in general, not to any sanctions from relaxation, after all. this temporary technical solution does not have this and that's it. what she was talking about about the possible exchange of assets is complete nonsense, because as soon as

we agree to the conditional confiscation of western assets, we will get them here. uh, russia in a tin can. well, it needs to be sealed. so in general, if you don't like ivanov here. professor diskin, whom you also don't really like, came here regularly, but he would say, it seems. go, that if someone tries, then our assets from there are frozen to bite off completely. we also have something to bite off here, and for what figures the central bank is talking about, it means that he wrote to us that on october 1, the twenty-first year, the total volume of foreign investment is somehow huge for me, the figure is one comma 18 hundredths of a trillion dollars, that is, one trillion 180 billion. well, investments are not money. understand the news. this is a plant and factories. me is the share of the business, foreign while in october this year, the cba said that the scenario of the exchange of frozen active is not a key, so there are also a lot of drives, again, this is not money. well, understand that we have here it

goes. these are the 300 billion that are frozen in the west. this is money. it really is gold. it's money it's money is what you can say the united states is money. you consider the same securities. this is the same securities, what kind of securities? uh, well, there are some other securities - this is money , very liquid money, as far as the european union is concerned. it will be ready on january 12th. the first draft of the legal justification for the seizure of our funds. that's all, the process is going on, right? well, look, then, again, yes, returning to what i say. anton share nails money and private money, nails. money, do not touch. nobody will take them. we will freeze them. they will be frozen to lie. as for private money, this is also a purely theoretical question according to the american european take away the law. they can, but, but, but now i won’t say anything about europe according to

american law. these are lawsuits . well, for a few years now, let's get to what is more interesting, now, when we tried to argue with andrei vladimirovich perfectly, realizing that arguing with him. in general, it's useless, and you said, of course, he says investments, it's not money. and you said these are factories. i definitely heard from you, when you said, which do not belong to us. yeah, so we can take it for ourselves. so what, it was just said about it, probably, there in march and blocked. let's try. this is a very extreme move. yes , this is quite extreme, if we have our own hints, he does not consider this option. he talks about something different from what i mean in my head. what if the exchange, well, how cruel, that if the exchange is not okay, let it be frozen. but if this status is violated, if our frozen assets are seized, as they do, for example, canadians are now precisely the states

now, then in this situation we are obliged just enroll in a mirror image. we have a basis on which the legislative basis in aha russian laws, according to which we can nationalize companies. we will do this, that is, we will act in response, because in response to what the united states is now offering with any of our reserves of assets, not a pike , that ’s all european something there to unlock for someone for someone not not not already a document has been adopted according to which our assets to the united states yes, now they can be seized and sent towards ukraine there there are nuances. let's see the plot. united states senate approves russian assets confiscation amendment in favor of ukraine the washington post expects it to be supported by the house of representatives, and then signed by the president after which the us attorney general will be given the right to confiscate the assets of russians who find themselves under us sanctions of this kind, expression of support and

unanimity . i think that says a lot about the political mood in general and the united states is doing everything possible to support and protect ukraine according to the us treasury, according to the us treasury, the assets for this amount were frozen due to ties with russia. however, what part of this money belongs to businessmen, and what part of the russian central bank is not specified. $300 billion reserves from the center of the bank of russia, which are stored in the banks of the g7 this money is already frozen. seagull and in each of these countries , legal steps need to be taken to allow governments to withdraw this money and invest it in the ukraine recovery fund or invest it into a fund that would allow the ukrainian government to pay them to its soldiers.

she initiated the first procedure for seizing the property of a russian businessman who fell under sanctions from the g7 countries. the canadian authorities want to auction off the company granny capital holdings, which, in their opinion , belongs to roman abramovich, the profit from the sale will be $ 26 million. however , there is still a problem with the second part, that is, with the transfer of money to ukraine. according to brussels, ukraine will not receive them a month ago. they explained that the frozen russian assets will invest, and ukraine will receive only income in the short term. the european union , together with its partners, can create a structure to manage the frozen funds and testing, then we would use the proceeds for ukraine , so this is living on interest. i would put it aside a little, but here is the first canada that seizes the company supposedly abramovich let it be $26 million $26 million for big business. this is generally some kind of spit, but nonetheless. this is right. here is the first step on the withdrawal of private property of russians in

favor, as it were, one way or another of ukrainians. and this is exactly what we will answer. at the same time. come on, let's not forget, yes, that quite recently everyone, including in this studio, actively hinted to us that sanctions were removed from abramovich's accounts, there is something to unfreeze for 5 billion and this is all explained. these flights there with mercenaries to the emirates and so on and so forth. where is it anyway? what is really going on? alexey nikolaevich , look, you need to understand that if they could take away all the money, they would have taken it long ago. right there, the main problem is not to find a suitable law if the americans take away the money invested in their territories. you know that their credit rating in terms of investment is plummeting because none of the potential uh investors, you know , who are there are at risk there are the monarchs of the persian gulf, some latin american countries that can be sewn on with a dubious reputation . after that, nothing will be invested there. i'm saying this too. and so, accordingly. ah, if

such a drop in the rating were allowed, but america and europe would lose a lot of money. this is the main brake that stops them, if not, they would have taken everything away long ago, including state money, state money. if desired, you can also take it away, you can find there an article suitable for some kind of super organize there to forget. they will not make a sovereign reservation and transfer money to ukraine, because, but this automatically means the loss of a long-term trust rating of international investors until they solve this problem, but i don’t think that any serious money will be confiscated like 26 million. that is, this is such a trial ball, they will see how they react. the same international investors will react the arabs. yes, how much money, yes, they are looking, in fact , the balance, the inflows and outflows of money on these american krasnopei treasuries. yes , if the balance is positive, if the money continues to flow to america, then everything is fine. we can do whatever we want

if the balance there falls below zero and there is an outflow money from the united states, you know something is wrong, so you need to return the trust of investors. so it needs to be changed. well, how to object? i just want to clarify. uh, somewhere, no matter how much money they take away whatever they want. if they want, if they haven't taken it away yet . this means that, of course, than i will lower my speed and head to africa, they were already thirty-ninth american, of course, they want any money. wait a wait, here's the weaning about the state when e maduro yes, yes, yes, i mean, just have to to remind our viewers that when madura tried to throw off and proclaim this guaido money that lay in london in my opinion. yes iran are two separate cases. why because there were legal possibilities that are not present in the russian case in the case of venezuela. the united states recognized the ah

guaido with applause of the chosen but president of venezuela to take away russian money. they should conditionally recognize some kind of uh, your kupkina in washington as the president of russia, this will not be the case with iran and part of the iranian is sure that this is explained, and part of the iranian money was transferred by the creditor. the agreement with iran itself was paid a lot of money to the victims of the terrorist attacks, in which iran was found guilty, they appointed iran guilty there for the terrorist attacks and the victims of the american who suffered from these routes turned out the same thing they can do with us with this work, who is stopping them from doing what tribunal, as we know, they are already trying to do it. yes , this is the third option. here are after two that i he outlined the third option, how to withdraw our money if russia attacks the territory of the united states, the damage to the americans is included. in this situation, there is also a

mechanism of other mechanisms of american lawyers who have been digging for months and have not found this is important to understand, and they cannot recognize any other president of russia except putin, because in this situation foreign policy consequences explode not in relation to moscow, ranging from chinese graduated from the middle east. america does not want such a gap therefore, by the way, the white house refuses to recognize even russia as a country sponsoring terrorism, exactly so as not to harm the global interests of the united states in the matter. they assess the damage. everything quite right, a colleague said the possible damage from this or that action, they are not fools and damage. here, if you break your legal system, how much, how much, how much, how much, what they get from this, uh, exceeds these risks, and the word in your legal system and the search for someone this optimal about some kind of designs through a new law or through something else, and the second is really the balance of income and care means. exactly this. the main thing is that they are

actually watching. why do they come up with different schemes? why is ursula not talking about taking and giving all the money, but let's have a separate fund. and now let's just spin there with this money. it seems that we have not confiscated and we will send dividends, but the most important thing is that ukraine is not a penny. it is unlikely that the ukrainians will get something, it will be a penny of this money. they are they want to use under orders under - under european capacities under western capacities, so they end up using this, in their opinion, relatively honest way of raising money from the russian population of the russian state. or is it again to talk to use like uh such a point of negotiation. but we can, and you are not for it, and so on and so forth. well, it means that they will not touch the population of the state indistinctly, because these risks are not acceptable, the compression rating trust will fall. citizens especially who are under sanctions. pay attention 26 million is a penny sum, as it were, yes. at

the same time, this is the money of a citizen who is under sanctions here, maybe they just know it, how a person enters the river and gently touches it. so what water is cold and cold. now, if there are millions, try the temperature and then they will dive headlong again memories of the violinists. it can be said that all the money, as it were, of russians can be defined as e, obtained by criminal means? uh-huh well, yes, yes, that's when it will be possible and complexity can be determined by attention. they don't do it yet. what is the probability in your opinion that they will do the same is interesting to be decided or not . depending on how the situation will develop depending on, until we know what victor will be like here, we need to pay attention to the trend, and the trend

is unequivocal. well, firstly, the return of frozen funds is not a meeting at all; practically they will not return frozen funds and unfreeze them too, but the situation. but as does it develop? we know how it develops. for the first hour, we condemned the developments in terms of relations between russia and the west extremely negatively, so i can’t expect any warming in such economic contacts and unfreezing of funds on our part , and the exchange of frozen ones is extremely unlikely. why is it unlikely, and if not already how blackmail actually such an exchange, first of all from such an exchange in the first place. says russian country and here are siluans, says some others speak for in the west practically no one talks about this less, what it is about what it says that it is the russian country that is more interested in such an exchange, and not the west, therefore it is unlikely that it is unlikely that it will be trusted goals. what is the exchange going to happen? secondly, with regard to the story of roman abramovich's company in canada well, 26 million. quite

right. you're right. this is a trial balloon, and with a high degree of probability. we can say that this story will go well for canadians, and they will continue to act in the same vein. only canadians, but also other western countries, therefore, private money, of course, private investors, private owners of the company, of course, an oliga to him, so we see, and how is it happening what actions are in the west, and in relation to other russian oligarchs, k the same michailand, but the uk what are the points of pressure on these people, especially those who live in the territory, the west that is, if somewhere you can put pressure, somewhere you can force something to give. if somewhere, and if it doesn’t give back, something else can be done, so here, uh, here it is against abramovich, this whole story for 26 million dollars is not the largest amount, as we distinguish. can the russian

state in response, protecting the interests of its potential citizen, initiate, for example, for a similar amount, maybe a little more, maybe a little less, some kind of case to confiscate from representatives of the state canada the united states of america those who supported the sanctions on confiscation approximately the same amount favored by the russian state, for the time being, or a private individual private individual. and where will we find so many investors here, who invested their money in our production. we withdraw from these people, because, as far as private investments are concerned, and in the economy from western countries, it is not only possible, but this is also the most likely option, and the russian response to this is essentially aggravated. just while there is still time, when victor zhezet four began to speak. i heard that alexei nikolaevich literally said that the world is much closer than you

think the west is not one of them, there were several that the west is looking for a program for reconciliation with russia that no one wants to go to the end. there were many signals. he is an example of the return of russian athletes in the ranking of the international boxing association through scholz 's statement that after the end of the conflict, germany will continue to buy russian naftogaz there. yesterday i read an article in a major western magazine about the fact that, well, the west understands that it is useless to resist. and we must look for certain options for peace and peace among other things, it implies the return of frozen money and the return of assets. that is, in principle, well, the sum of such signals is quite a lot of them, that a certain program was being developed in the west, including today, that the oddity lies in the fact that it seems like

yes, you are right. we also analyzed these signals, but now everyone is talking about the fact that escalation is inevitable . absolutely clear. we say impossible accordingly, escalation is impossible. well, that is, it can be increased above a certain limit, and russia’s own persistence and the stability of the front line is a guarantee that the west will sooner or later, but sooner rather than later. and it is quite possible that the same will happen in the first half of next year. let's continue now, let's add oil and gas here stanislav yes, so that he can speak out and continue this whole conversation. on new year's eve, evgeny morgulis invites everyone in the mountains to dark garages with fixing columns.

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pipeline oil. even though they're kind of like unfriendly countries, and uh, this ceiling kept the focus on the issue of attention. the question is, we mean with them the ceiling does not touch the pipeline. what's the difference, then, anton valeevich. do you somehow know or or mean if we said that we do not have any further relations with these countries, but ukraine is still going to? today, when we were preparing this program, i read it, i read the script. i tried to remember when i was here pretending to be so surprised. remember, i told you that our transneft received a notification from the ukrainian side that they were raising it. uh, transit cost. again pipeline our oil. today i found out that it turns out they are next year. i mean ukraine by another 18%, they want to raise it, and transit, that is, we owe another 18%. it's just that i don't understand these things.

now you will explain to me. yes, please show me. the russian foreign ministry said that the current volumes of pumping through the druzhby a pipeline through ukraine will be maintained next year the pipe leads hungary to slovakia the czech republic the same czechs, back in the summer they said that they no longer need russian oil for friendship, but with the onset of winter they changed their minds sharply, although the price changed for growing appetites. kiev is constantly growing this year. ukraine has increased the cost of transit by a third, and next, according to bloomberg, it will raise it by another 18%. after almost a year of full-scale hostilities, russian energy resources are still daily flow through ukrainian pipelines to europe, providing kiev with a source of income worth about a billion dollars a year, while the european union allowed slovakia, which receives all crude oil from the druzhba pipeline , to export oil products from russian raw materials to neighbors, including ukraine. slovakia

will be able to export all oil products not only to the czech republic, but and in ukraine what will help stabilize the production and operating results of our word refinery. next year, another intrigue around the northern branch of friendship was connected to it by germany and poland, who threatened that they would not buy russian oil from the new year, but at the same time sent applications for 2023 . that's announced that they will take the first of january in russia now. uh from polish consumers next year 3 million tons, give us and for december 360,000 tons and for the first quarter of germany has already applied. so too. give, berlin called the statement of the russian oilmen a slander, they say, out of friendship. they will receive oil from kazakhstan, but they really don’t need russian it is necessary, and the reservation of capacity for

the transportation of oil, the volumes, transportation, which the transmitter will provide through its oil pipeline. friendship will go in transit, you can explain this to me through poland. and what is it? here it is, some kind of eyes are closed and then the hands independently perform some kind of duality operation. like her topic that was just discussed. why is russia , for example, in response to measures to effectively nationalize the assets of gazprom, let's say rosneft. why in poland and germany say not nationalized bp from oil, but for the reason that, apparently, it is set in order to work for a reputation outside the western world that this sudden world must see that the americans and the europeans out of lawlessness take everything away and behave incorrectly, and with russia you need to have the point is in the new world that has emerged from the history of the future, how to work for the future. here, that the ukrainian loan will end sooner or later and it will be clear that you can’t deal with those guys, but with us strategy in the future will be rational is a separate issue. maybe it

really should have been taken away quickly, there is only one exxon assets on sakhalin without waiting until he is forced to somehow give them away, or there are two sheila on sakhalin and there are a whole bunch of such examples, there really are 300 billion dollars each, as for the history of friendship. uh, it means that the northern ones have the southern branch, friendship along the northern branch of friendship, and the poles said that, at the level of the declaration, they say that they will not receive in reality they send applications, because that they have an oil contract and while the european union does not impose sanctions against friendship until that time, the company is polish. maybe she can refuse this contract, she will immediately lose in court, so they send applications regarding the germans. apparently, they actually sent an application to transneft for pumping oil, and then, when this topic was broadcast , they published what we saw on the screen. she began to pretend that you know, this, it turns out, is kazakhstani oil, where he had agreements, said boorish, where the opportunity kazakhstan to increase these supplies, where is the guarantee that in the process of transportation through the territory of russia, kazakh oil will not be mixed with russian. she

will, of course, do it. this is clear. just get it all right. now all these europeans are fine. these are the people who will be with us now , uh, there by proxy or some kind of jesuit methods, and ukraine, that is, ukraine, is waging war with us, killing ukrainian soldiers of our soldiers of our civilians. at the same time, we pay ukraine for transit this one, the uncle, says, a billion dollars a year, this billion dollars goes, of course, again to the war. this is more than that, this transit oil gets to slovakia words that can even out of this oil pipeline and send back to ukrainian friendship. the same thing, you see, if we speak globally like that, well, then we are ready to stop all trade with the west for this russian leadership on others. wait, what's the damage if we stop exploiting the friendship, well, except for the reputation for us, yes, money loss money lost, first punctuation. secondly, money, again, if we believe we will lose money then can we

stop i will friendship is good. we have bulgaria, which can still export oil by sea, because they blink at home, but the lukoil plant is an exception in bulgaria, yes, which are 10% of the total gdp that they somehow registered there in order to import oil products in ukraine, here, well, for some reason i focus on some factories and leave all the rest of economic interaction around on some projects. we either we continue to interact economically, or we completely stop it, otherwise this is a contradiction. you and i can discuss, then every day of the week, it will still be, uh, we can continue the tape through ukraine, but we can, of course, name it. uh-huh can we stop teaching ukraine about gas, but it’s also possible, but only then, uh, how to improve the task there, which is connected with our reputation and so that following gazprom’s investment programs is and can be built, for example, deputation reputation, but this is the notorious price of the lord, well, let's somehow still , one by one, this notorious price ceiling worked, because regularly all sorts of bad telegram channels write that

we are selling very little oil now, did it really work cheap and cheap and less you go to eat less for retirement by about 20% according to the situation in december, because you can’t quickly reorient the double slavutov phenomenon, but i think that closer to spring this situation becomes, when there will be an increase in demand for petroleum products in the northern hemisphere, as far as much or little understand, she predicted a general fall of 30% to 50%. right there, the international energy agencies and others and super big whites and claimed that this would happen here. here is what we have lost only from the baltic or 20% until december. well, this is an indicator that the economy is actually very stable, as for the cost price, what we sell there at a low price, but this is crap, of course, what the referee wrote there, for example, that it turns out that some oil shipments go to india below cost price . we discussed the level of russian production costs a lot when there was covid, when there was a sharp decline in production and prices said how much we could withstand there? uh, so pavel sorokin yes, there the head of the ministry of energy said that 25

we have a cost for you, he considers capital costs, which, among other things, were incurred in part in soviet times. so , there is closer to reality somewhere around 15 dollars, so the story that oil in india goes below its cost. that's all, uh, there will be options. we will also pass the budget. we have a budget. the price of a barrel, 62 dollars, the average average, as it were, and the levels are 40 dollars. it was considered a very high price for us. we have this quit costs. we had a smaller arch, which turns out to be answered, please, lord. well, it is obvious that the oil system and, in general, the country's economy will withstand this business. if she withstood the story with a scud, then now, too, even differently, as far as we, uh, can put the same question. indeed, as far as we can deliver or not deliver out of friendship, with all these all these we cannot not supply, because we will lose the market in this sense, if we stop offering this place, this capacity

will be occupied very quickly, and we will not return to the internet. i want to remind you that it is. we hope to return to this market. we look forward to improving the relationship. why we hope that if they are already saying that we are giving up energy carriers in the future, they can say whatever they want. it 's verbal delivered by sea transport, but not by pipeline. it doesn't just happen. why because they are well aware that their power is the electrical power that is needed. they are not closed by account. uh renewable energy. in any case, non- renewable sources are needed anyway, so in any case it will not go through the pipeline. we will supply it, because we don't want to lose 13, and they will buy it, because they need oil. and can we with e from the relationship of what we want with this people all over who say they will buy oil relationships. and here to refuse. just screw it on a little. you see

, they will take it to the market. well, to hell with him already. well, these buyers market every day. this is an important question. let's buy or go out to the press every day. i say, russia is on her and on you at all fu and no, your fu, and gas, that's all, guessed no. and we and we say listen, you don’t want to lose this market, and there is a person standing on the other side, he says, he submits an application for you and submits an application instantly, yes, yes. once when they tell us fu on you, but to buy our oil, you just need to hang on the site conditionally transneft and gazprom's rosneft it doesn't matter who buys our energy carriers a big thank you letter. thank you very much to the european countries that you only sent this money this month, but you are less spat on the russian army because of this. no, i’ll just understand that this money, that i receive this money for a reason, but this money goes

to our specialist’s military operation in ukraine, yes, ukraine received a billion. and how much we got for this in the european regular american media is about how bad europe is why it finances the russian special operation in ukraine by buying russian energy, we headed for a very difficult long so-called war of attrition from ukraine all the military decisions that were made by the military technical they are taken from this calculation. and for such a war you need money and money. we receive through the sale, including energy in europe we receive decent honor today, money, including from our enemies, seven of which you explain everything correctly, but somehow it doesn’t fit with me. no, i'm not saying i don't like it. i say that i just can't understand it. everything, you can explain, you need to pay attention. exactly, the next i have it, as i said. for some reason, we have such an ultra-patriotic demand to close everything,

to ban everything, to refuse to start spitting. here we are very reminiscent of this one, literally literally , in fact, and those calls and actions to our enemies, just the same geopolitics, they are to us arrange sabotage. this means that they are doing everything on gas pipelines so that russia loses its markets. and we are here. and let's do it ourselves and sit so happy and unspit. well, we are sitting without money, because now we are talking about a 20% reduction. let's have more friendship, turn it off. let's cut a little more one billion ukraine what we paid. listen first, this is bullshit. secondly, from the fact that we are now blocking and paying a billion, they will lose something, they will applaud their hands, because this is a billionth of the west, these are pennies, and we we will be left without huge funds that go somehow to support our economy in the social sphere, in the end to achieve the goal of a special military operation, because everything costs money further. that is, so let's go now, you and i are so quiet truce give you money to me money so everything,

now let's go wet each other helped each other, then again. come on, let's change. look, the modern world is much more difficult to adapt to this modern world and accept all of it from what article it is. regulations because the spat on guys, attention, please, the spat upon are not us, they call us goats. and they are like that now, we will punish you, and then we will come, yes, and rightly so, and we give exactly gevorg says every time we send them, but this is as such a creative story, but there should be a lot of such loans there should be a lot on the site for you thanks for so much money, with which we will buy so many missiles. that's when he answers, so let's go. uh, i agree with anton here. in what i practically add that nothing

especially new, if you look at the history in general, the relationship between russia and the west in this situation is not in the course of the entire practically cold war and the last soviet union traded in very, very unfriendly nato countries and united places is canada when something was needed war after all . yeah, what did you sell them to eat. they conducted anti-soviet activities at that time, financed anti-soviet organizations, proxy warriors in others, of course, ukraine at that time was more often than the soviet union, but it is unlikely that there were proxy wars in a number of other countries, where both soviet and american instructors participated and died, there were soviet people and trade continued during the great patriotic war. turkey was a friendly country in the soviet union. no , there wasn't. she didn’t fight, but she still wasn’t friends and the turkish delegation came to the occupied crimea to inspect the crimean tatars, where the world was trading in san-bark throughout the great patriotic war. why because

precisely wartime network? it was necessary and no one stuttered about how immoral, but, that is, you all suggest that i shut up and keep quiet. e in a rag and morally do not designate ours here these are uh reflex andrey we are talking about what is, the prevailing state interest and the state acts in this way not because we have a stupid leadership or because she does not understand or because that she wants to finance ukraine there are billions. or how many are not there yet? because weighing the pros and cons of such a policy, it turns out that at the moment today this does not mean that in 2 months it will be the same or in six months, maybe this will change, but at this particular moment it is more profitable for russia to receive both these resources and maintain such economic relations with some european countries than to cut it

all right now stopped. alexei nikolaevich knows what kind of money we are talking about? here we are now so the plot is to receive money that we have and how much money we have through this friendship i want to say, there are several large sums percent. there is what germany said, so they booked something for the first quarter. well, then they said that there would be no deliveries, but it would become slovakia, hungary who else is there czech republic of the word and yes, that's all. yes. and the czech republic means this is a few percent of the total oil exports. and if the question answering the question, will russia cut off friendship, then yes. it is absolutely. perhaps if during the year we see that the balance of oil supplies is here. and is such that we can sell, but for oil to some other destination without friendship, if the russian leadership will see this friendship will be used as an instrument of pressure, if then the reputation that was

spoken about today and so on the russian leadership, president putin, he spoke about this many times. he works for results. the main thing is the result. and who said what to whom? who will win? than named on the way it's secondary tomorrow will be forgotten. the main thing is whether there is a result or not, a result. we actually have a very large number of tools left. influence on the west, one of them is friendship, the second is gas. if we say so we will see that we can replenish our budget and export enough resources without friendship and without gas. i think that it is quite possible that in the middle of the year these channels will be blocked, if we see that we are having a hard time with supplies to the foreign market, then these tools will remain, and they will work. ours will not be able to do this quickly. that is, we do not have not only tankers, and even more so new ones for this project or new pipes. we will not build to transfer this business. it's a matter of sacrifice. yes and we say that we we risk there

after they take our place in the market and we sacrifice part of the income for the sake of achieving political expediency, or we do it, so i’m the version that, most likely, it won’t block it from the other side, then we will continue to look at the height. why do we say , on the one hand, that and we, as it were, against the ceiling, on the other hand, supply countries. who accepted this ceiling, if in the contracts where deliveries are made, including for friendship, the ceiling is not mentioned, we pretend that we don’t know about this ceiling everyone does. this is some portunism. yes , the use of channels in order to sell more, only we, as soon as it is profitable for us. we immediately recall that these countries led the ceilings, this will happen if the trade balance of russia is satisfied from the point of view of the country, we are dealing with conditional germany, which the ceiling was supported by the right hand with the left hand was not supported. we live only with the left hand, considering that the right one in this. yes, yes, to play everything like that, we need to no longer have time. let's recap in a few minutes

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economic tools that can allow this situation can be defeated by politics by economics can be defeated by politics by economics, georgy valerievich well, politics, so far, all the key decisions of diversification are in the first place. energy sanctions. even the suspension of russian athletes is purely political, but this will not always be the case, because in the end, the refrigerator always wins over the tv. andrei vladimirovich for the front, everything for the victory of the economy there is no place for the economy, there is no place in decision-making only politics so viktor zhezevich politics prevails, since the west believes that the dividends that it will receive from the weakening of the disintegration of russia they are much larger, including economic ones, they are willing to endure stanislav pavlovich well, political motives. they are strategic, that is, they go ahead, it’s another matter that their implementation becomes economically obstacles, and here you have to partly give up anton’s ideology, but

in the end, you really want to win common sense. and this is obvious economics. and here we discussed and perhaps win friendship. but friendship in the sense - let's see about friendship, in general, he spoke about friendship about what actually walks. what does it mean if you are spat upon? or walk with the city raised his head to the poor. i'm not even uh poor, eventually pride goes away poverty stays six while it's called it's better to be rich and healthy and sick with a little spat on your feet. in general , from everything that has been said today. i realized that although everything will be fine. i to you said. yes, well, in general, he hopes for some kind of thaw, well, at least, ahead of time, armenian radio asks. and tell me, please, what is the purpose of this

next e-political thaw of the armenian radio. well, have you ever tried to tighten the nuts in the cold of this meeting place, which cannot be changed, 14:00 weekdays ntv broadcast happy new year? all the best to you , goodbye. hello . they tried to penetrate the territory of russia. the fsb reported the liquidation of a group of ukrainian saboteurs.