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become good trading partners, we will not do anything specifically us hello is this meeting place on ntv a place where everything becomes clear? i'm andrey norkin. my colleague is ivan trushkin. we work live, and here, you know, about 40 years ago, when the film was released, moscow does not firmly believe in our lexicon in tears. and so the phrase of stability entered. no, well, remember, yes , the conversation is that there is no stability in the world in general, terrorists have again captured airplane. here we have been living for quite a few years, and in conditions like this, when there is no stability, not only positive,
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even negative stability. no, it cannot be said that every day everything is getting worse, everything is going on. that's how it is from the bay of barakhta that one then the other three. in my opinion. this just confirms that the world has really ceased to be unipolar. there are a lot of factors that affect everything that happens in the world, probably one of the most important factors. this is china because the same ones are there, i don’t know the eighties, if i can’t believe moscow in tears, i recalled. probably china could be especially somehow like that. attention, do not take into account. well, china and china and now it has become so big in every absolutely sense that everything that happens there instantly affects the well-being of the entire planet. look, yesterday the chinese announced that they are canceling pcr tests for foreigners entering the country on january 8 and canceling quarantine for them. well, in general, they are practically opening the border. and despite the fact that they are obtained from the twentieth year, almost nothing.
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yes, they were closed. moreover, as far as i understand, the chinese are going to cancel these most severe quarantine measures that have been in effect until recently, which means that the chinese defeated the coronavirus, nothing like that means what is happening in china now let's compare. it's just that we're going to show you a frame, but it's very reminiscent of the situation in 2020 in italy in europe, if you remember, in 2020 it suffered the most. lo italy from the coronavirus the country was practically. uh, well, the mortality rate was locked up for half a year, then the health care system was overwhelmed in the italian hospital . well, in general, it collapsed, it absolutely could not cope with the volume, and about 700,000 people lost their jobs then, and the italian gdp, if i remember correctly, collapsed by eight percent. here, and now let's see the footage is very fresh, but
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that we receive from china, uh, well, obviously there are questions. the explosive growth in the incidence of covid in china started in early december, when the authorities, after massive protests, for the first time in the entire pandemic, quarantine was lifted in 3 weeks , a quarter of a billion people became infected with the virus, that is, one in six chinese on december 20, according to bloomber , an anti-record was recorded at once 37 million new cases of sickness per day in the hospital. the press does not have time to burn the bodies, and i am in the morgue of the deceased. look here more than a hundred bodies of chinese viruses have caused the same coronaviruses that the whole world has long been ill with, but the chinese, who have been in strict quarantine all these years of herd immunity. it never appeared, and the old vaccines no longer work.
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the peak incidence is predicted in january. by the end of the month, a new wave is expected due to the celebration, china new year in general, the epidemic in china will last at least 6 months , more than 60% of the population of both china and 10% of the earth's population will probably become infected over the next 90 days, the probability of death is in the millions in the plural blow to the chinese and then the world economy. the inevitable losses are already counting the american company apple, due to the quarantined plant in china, the market did not receive 15 million iphones. the chinese business is also suffering. the oil and gas company senapek, as part of the fight against covid, introduced a vacation ban and isolated key employees from the rest of the staff. and electric car manufacturer nio bought several truckloads of medicines and equipment for workers, the international agency is already
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recording a sharp decline in china 's technology industry, the biggest one since february 2021. to say that i really don’t want another crap to happen in china, because this crap will spread to absolutely everyone, and sergey is not even about illness, but about everything. listen, well, diseases too, because if there is some kind of another sore, then nobody needs it either sergeyevich you must remember that the last program on this topic, and many of your colleagues , and in my opinion, you too, a said that the policy here is this chinese severest restrictions in the fight against coronavirus. in general there was erroneous, if these are very strict measures, like this, with a click, take and cancel instantly, which, as far as i understand, has now been done. and this is correct, wouldn't it be a mistake? andrey well, first of all, i want to congratulate you on your transmission, it is clearly evolving
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that i began to doubt the correctness and effectiveness of western hegemony. these are just good achievements. you found often. see. we doubt this in terms of dynamics. for example, in recent years. if it comes to us exclusively in the east to take off will generally be complete. please be brotherly. wait, please, wait. so, let me now come up with these laws, past programs. i think well? i know i read, well it's a mistake or not. and if you remember, indeed, the latest program, we talked about the fact that, following the results of the 20th congress of the communist party of china, a special commission was created that studied all, uh, the circumstances surrounding the coronavirus. especially the fact that this last stamp is not like that. uh , dangerous there are only 3-4 days of illness is extended. this has already been noted by everyone, and in
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general, the removal of restrictions is already underway. here, despite the fact that we hear what we showed today, if you call a friend in china, they note more about what they see, these places are being filmed, where are the hospitals, where pcr tests were filmed and etc. all this is already being sorted out, that is, the restriction is removed. this is the most important thing, therefore, of course, everyone expects that the economy, on the contrary, will begin to recover. and here is our doubt to feel. and then you somehow at first, they decided to praise us, and then to immerse us, if chinese society has been under such a bubble for several years, and yes, with a protective cap. ah, the processes that took place all over the world, china did not obviously affect this. so we're all over here. here's a live one. an example of a person found out that he had been ill there when he arrived. yes, i may have been overwhelmed too. i just don't know, in any
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case, we have some developed by the europeans. there's all the collective university in china - that didn't happen, so here's this new strain that's about to happen. we will probably endure more or less calmly for the chinese, it may turn out to be a much more serious thing. no, it seems to me that collective immunity has also been studied, it will really come if at least 60% of the chinese population get sick and they are ready for this. they understand that they will get sick and not for 6 months, of course, but in the spring they will completely come out and will not remember these at all. even about the crown. come on, i called. uh, my beijing friend a few days ago. she's acquaintances i have no acquaintances in pique they have a complete trash is going on, and she herself fell ill. just recently to my question. you've been vaccinated. well, the answer was clear. everything is very seriously very bad there, but there is really a huge number of cases , and you need to understand that to some extent this is retribution for a political decision. she gets sick
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for a long time when it happens. so she fell ill at the beginning of the twenties. moreover, she regularly almost every day, they tested them for free, by the way, a big plus from china in relation to us china is paying the price for a political decision it made last year. they closed first of all, because the task of comrade xi was to cleanly and accurately hold a party congress at which he would be re-elected and that is why they saw the most severe restrictions, that is why they did not actually let foreigners in without total quarantine, so god forbid this is what is happening now do. uh, before they started doing it before, but when the whole world opened up , it reminds me of china hold a party convention. so that comrade blue has a problem, why not? and in this case, we remember everything that happened at the olympics for comrade c, the party congress is clear. there all reasons were much more important than the olympics and eat, and between
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the olympics and the congress. how many months are there based on all these factors, the forecast is that china will certainly now, uh, get very seriously ill, but they accepted, as if they understood everything that they were. where they made a mistake with the chinese. this is the disease. she will backfire on us, yes to vera straw, but we are likely to affect everyone. indeed, but china is like e. and, if , of course, any economic problems in china , we will show something else to economists and financiers. yes, the chinese economy will backfire well. to us first of all. let 's continue, because, well, sergey, and with respect. as if, well, apparently with the eyes. yes , it doesn't match yours. uh, assurances, of course, there were political reasons for the closure of china, but certainly there was an effect here and a certain one, if it opens, then now political critics, but the point
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is that there is such a moment, about which there is little, they say, the chinese vaccine is ineffective in china, they know about it, this is one of the reasons that they acted, as they acted, they understood, that if they do not introduce such lockdowns, then the consequences for the population will be much more ours, but they, and they did not let the russian chinese market, nor western vaccines on the chinese market, no foreign vaccines, including the russian one, were allowed on the chinese market knows what a wonderful uh, conclusion. here read the argentines. e satellites bought the most and won all the fuck at the world cup. that's all, they bought it a little differently than the argentines closed their market completely to foreign vaccines, knowing at the same time that vaccines are less effective than satellite, less effective than western vaccines, and this was also one of the reasons, not only political and these lockdowns and very tough such authoritarian policies against quid. and what for what
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besides the fact that certain political causes? hey, gone, what else has changed? they see, firstly, dissatisfaction was growing that we saw these protest demonstrations. people are no longer ready. they began to live forever. they are not ready to live forever in such. we see that the approach that russia and a number of european countries, sweden and others, have shown is not so harsh measures, but in general a combination of various measures. yes, it turned out to be effective. we have passed this period. everything we have now is an epidemic. here they have not passed what they have now, so they will be for it now, unfortunately, not only for them, unfortunately, by the way, well, for us, it is paying for it by the fact that we are going now they have some kind of epidemic, too, yes, if the chinese, then the whole world is paying, because the world is slowing down, world trade is also a company to scare everyone, maybe we were afraid to increase it. i don't know, well, not
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very frightening, but in general, everything is fine in the texture. china is on the verge of a major logistical crisis due to the large number of infected enterprises not enough manpower. the first victim was the chinese mail, the streets of several large cities at once, turned out to be littered with ownerless parcels, which are now unlikely to reach their recipients around the world. and problems with the delivery of goods have already been felt. our kommersant writes to solve the problem. russian companies plan to use ships and trains departing from china on a special schedule, but the cargo will reach its destination by the end of january at best. and if the chinese crisis goes according to a bad scenario, already dreams. the whole world will feel a shortage of entire groups of goods, some western firms have begun to prepare for a scenario in which imports from china will stop vessel traffic along the taiwan
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strait, a member of the directorate of a large japanese automobile corporation, says it is necessary to court the markets of other asian countries, other large companies do not want to wait at all and withdraw part production outside of china last week, reuters reported tesla suspended production at its factory in shanghai due to a sharp incidence of coronavirus, and american giant apple even more determined. apple has in recent weeks accelerated plans to move some production outside of china, which has long dominated the company's supply chain, the company is asking suppliers to actively plan assembly of products in other asian countries, in particular in india and vietnam, and is also seeking to reduce dependence on taiwanese assemblers, according to analysts. to china is now similar to the locomotive of the world economy, which runs out of fuel sharply and this is supposedly enough to in other countries recession began, and then the global economic crisis will break out. vladimir
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sergeevich is really a hurricane in china that we will now feel everything on ourselves, or is it a light breeze, my daughter drank and passed, and in general, in a month everything will become something in between . in fact, as always, there are no black or white tones. i want to add to your story a wonderful story, why because really apple decided ahead of time to manufacture products in india they opened factories there and, in fact, prepared who the scenario that we just talked about . the point is that let's remember. what is the population of china 1.5 billion people, but about 100 million people enter the labor market every year. in other words, china needs to create 100 million new jobs every year, too. why create new here this situation. i am sorry. in this situation, in this situation , new jobs are being created. de facto. why because the labor market is not so easy to free, that is, it takes time to fire a person. what if a person is sick? it is impossible to fire him, that is, in other words , some
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concept must be adopted that will allow replacing people at the workplace while they are working, as in time, only they are sick, that is, the employee is sick in his place to another worker. now, if china makes this decision and makes such a model, then, accordingly, it will all work, but the withdrawal of production is already on and on. it's before it started here's this wave to the view, then it's already not very clear how it will work the person who got sick. well, you replaced him, but then he, well, probably quickly, yes, he must be returned back quite right, where to put him, that's the problem. so i didn’t quite understand, then, as a model, it ’s not there, why? i tell her this problem? this problem needs a model that will allow us to replace sick workers with new labor resources. but when those who recover, where to put them, you need to think about this, but as this model does not exist, according to what happens, production is stopped or transferred production in other countries. this is already happening here in this situation, but the most important thing is that there was an overabundance of labor in china. moreover, the labor force is inexpensive
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, another thing is that it is necessary to solve the problem structurally. how to transfer those workers who are unemployed lead to jobs deaths from the cabin help can be learned from china's economy economics is a grim science. unfortunately, but labor resources - this is the same resource, it's another matter that it can't be handed over quickly to vladimir sergeyevich? no , well, okay. you to us for now. let's explain although not everyone agrees with this regarding whether to wait for some hero of the world crisis to take it easy, keep yourself to yourself. no, don't wait. why because, well, look at the global crisis, not because the chinese got sick. they can get sick there all they want. there, in their country, there is a global crisis due to the fact that factories are closing, and those measures that the chinese leadership is now taking in order to open factories and switch to some kind of european russian belarusian model, when there are patients, and there is a factory two different things. and what will get sick is that the workers get sick
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. there is no reason to close the plant. and here is such a technique, how sick and how uh- huh, what's the difference. who cares? because the director or there, i don’t know, the chairman of the cpc fell ill, which means we are closing the plant, it hurts. yes , this is a problem. so, look, if they switch to the european, there the russian model of dealing with the crisis and the economy does not stop exactly what they are doing now, then, respectively, the consumption and resources of metal oil, and so on. everything it will grow. and in fact, we see today that the dynamics of commodity markets, it does not show a failure, which would be if tomorrow they expected china to stop buying everything there, and the 20th year would begin there again. no, that is, the disease is separate, the economy is separate, so china is the opposite. now the rabbit of the global locomotive is returning through the opening of factories - this is exactly, and, accordingly, everything that i have seen from the twentieth
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to the present day. this tells me that they don't never separate their economy and sores is everything, it was just very mixed up. look, if you close factories when you have one person sick there, then yes. it's all mixing. obviously not just one person. we, well, well, there will be well. oh, just millions. we are talking about tens of millions of people who should get sick and get sick and the chinese will have the herd immunity that we have there in other countries. yes , it's annoying. yes, in general, i’ll probably remind a certain number of people. we have an extra mortal side of covid stella about a million people. well, if everything was as bad there as it is with us, when we had covid in the twentieth year, well, respectively, we multiply by 10, but most likely this will not happen, because exactly from we have already talked about this strains, who are now walking around the world. they are much less lethal. than it was in the twentieth year, respectively. yes, some number
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will get sick. he will die on the economy, he will not stop from this, and moreover, china’s policy from the dentin is exactly that don't let the economy collapse so people don't lose their jobs, poverty doesn't start in the country, and well, and with all the pies. that is, we are not worried if someone decides to order something for the new year , but this is the biggest thing to ask. and how much the chinese economy and trade are connected with china can be in such a limbo, so that the world can feel it, but it didn’t really affect, because some say in january. so, one wave in february is different. how many months the world is able to endure these interruptions in trade, because there are some interruptions no, look, when we say that china will suspend its economy there for some time, yes, then we are not talking about the fact that everything will become everything at once, the economy of all other countries. we can only say that, for example, the united states and western europe
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account for, well, more than 40% of chinese exports there, but they will start to live a little worse, which means, well, look, there is russia that is tightly connected with china and there are europe and the usa here for russia when stopping china's economy is a practical blow, a critical one, because china is , in fact, india's redus well, well, india plays a little role in this, being the only buyer of our energy resources. and the economy of the eu the us is closed on itself, what is connected basically they have. technological redistribution they can produce whatever is needed. actually , trump's policy was to protect himself in a certain sense from globalization, including making it medical . you just won't do anything wrong, but it will become a little, maybe worse, well, the standard of living will sway a little, but still, as it were, the consumer market for consumer goods. well, i don't know
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the percentage, but it's huge. these are almost all chinese goods. if this, if this does not happen, then there will be fewer goods for some time and that's it. i believe in the us it is safe to replace production with domestic production. you don't replace it right away. here you have not come and take the ships. i don’t know with something very important something else wasn’t produced that uh were there components you you can’t build a plant right away, of course, but china doesn’t need this crisis. if we talk about the crisis that will be provoked by the view, then this is the so-called v-shaped crisis, a quick fall and a quick recovery. now, if it were a structural crisis, that is , any production would be irretrievably lost from the species. then it would be a problem, but this will not happen, but some kind of respite for a couple of months. pay attention. uh, pandemic year, that china is the economy that is best weathered. here the first blow of the pandemic. although then it was a real shock. now we already know. what we are dealing with, including china, so
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this is a small v-shaped crisis. even if there is a recession, a quick recovery, and the developed economies of the world will not even feel it, who then inflates all this igorievich. well, uh, if we're talking about our interest in terms of the chinese market, then we, of course, wish everyone good health, because the less they have, uh, the blackdowns. that is , here i just agree with my colleagues that for us, lockdowns, when they fight the view is much worse than when they don’t fight it, but there are many born when they do, it’s clear they don’t work then, and they lose an interesting feeling that our carrier needs less demand. in china , the price of oil is falling, so there is an oversupply of supply. it doesn’t even matter where you sell it to china or india, by the way, in india, the largest buyers of russian oil, which is transferred to the car transport, and in this regard, lockdowns are much worse for us than uh, an increase in the incidence in china yes, they get sick there, but the main thing is that the movement
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continues, they consume fuel, and accordingly, a deficit is maintained at the global level. eh, the price is high, and we earn accordingly. therefore, i think that for russia there are indeed lockdowns as part of the fight against the code. they are much worse. and i understand that in about half a year there will be an economic surge, when all of them, if we take it, yes, without lockdowns, they will increase oil consumption by 2 million barrels per day. that's what russia is getting. in general 10, for example, million barrels per day, and they are two. fifth ours, yes, that is, our interests, our interest is that the chinese get a little sick, but how quickly you will recover, yes, nikolai nikolayevich, we are still interested in our usually anxious moods, and in this, if possible, i’ll talk about it in a few seconds . i will say this because you started the program by remembering the words. gosha from moscow will be in tears. there they still had some stability.
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nikolai gosha was talking booze, so he just asks. yes, and this, of course, would be to me well, so sarcastically, but there was no stability, because they hijacked the plane first. now show them one episode of uh, our program. and let them compare, yes, therefore, if you carefully followed my sayings. you would know that now you would cast, like smart people, they say the choice knew nikolayevich that now the modern version of the question of gosh is what is happening in the world next? behind him is the answer nikolai gosha better continue to drink, so please, yes, answer three. this is economics, politics and medicine. now yes the spread of the virus. if we talk about us, then why is it extremely bad for us, because there is stability, which is not already there, in all directions of the world. it means that here we fenced ourselves off from the west. we are practically liquidating ties with the east. we see what
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is happening and everyone says that well, there will be absolutely no confidence at all that everything will get better, and the east will be extremely interested in what if it gets better in order to deliver even more russia, depending on oil supplies, there and two other e, directions stability to the south. this is a security issue. e with our southern borders and even new ones is far from new, but not going anywhere . the topic of climate change is the north , what awaits us will not bypass the problems of climate change with our northern regions, so now just say hello to everyone. that we so dreamed that in russia there would be like in china , we saw such people many times, uh, we saw in our program, maybe we don’t need it to be like china, because when they say that it will worsen, the well-being of the population. yes no one will know if it gets worse, it's there or it doesn't get worse. how do we know how many people are dying there, but because in an authoritarian system to think that you can trust the statistics that the state issues, but this is very naive, simply because we do not
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like they support us. well, so neat, what if they say, there after a while you know, it was a mistake. here in the relationship and and in general they will cease to support us somehow. well, or of course, what i would like, on the contrary, they will support more strongly. let's see how things are now. after the start of the special operation in ukraine, china has essentially adhered to a policy of neutrality and is in no hurry to create an economic union. probably with russia. the fact that the us trade turnover with the chinese is five times greater than with us played a role here. we are not we will do something special in the wake of us and western sanctions against russia, beijing will continue to develop conventional trade relations with russia and other countries, if in january more than half of russian oil was bought by the eu countries, then by june the volume fell by a third, and transportation by tankers
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halved until april china was in no hurry to purchase our energy resources, and then , together with india, changed its mind, but requested a significant discount offshore oil exports to asia almost doubled, although most came stronger to china and to the same india but the volume of deliveries to china remained the same. this is not so much and does not really draw on salvation from the point of view of increasing oil supplies from russia, but india was the main savior in supporting western sanctions, too . the confusion was formally back in march. head of the chinese banking regulator. he promised not to support financial restrictions against russia, but in fact large state-owned banks. china almost immediately restricted operations with our country, and local companies refused to sell technology to russia. that's what happened to sibur plant and a project for the extraction and production of gas. arctic cng-2 brands such as lenovo and xiaomi have reduced the supply of electronics. chinese tech companies are quietly
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pulling out of doing business in russia under pressure from us sanctions and suppliers, despite beijing's calls for the company to resist coercion from the agency's overseas. bloomberg writes that china has tools that could soften the blow of western sanctions on the russian economy, but does not use peks, although it has extensive experience circumventing bans earlier, the chinese have successfully used small private banks to do business with iran beijing could buy some of russia's $130 billion gold reserves and pay for it in us dollars it could also boost trade with russia by buying more oil natural gas wheat and even better fertilizer if china bought stakes in russian energy and commodity companies, but china does not want to alienate the us and the european union, which together account for about 35% of its exports. at the same time, political ties between moscow
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at least what we see they are at a very high level egor is easier. well, look, so why is the whale behaving like that? but because china really does not want a direct clash with the americans. china well, someone will now call it caution, they say. china plays against the clock believes that time for this benefit will increase, but this is a banal chinese cowardice that has shown china in foreign policy in recent years for a few interests. quiet why she isn't and won't be anytime soon great power, because a great power has to be tough sometimes, and china within what it thinks is the right policy. and we crawl here. here we crawl. here. here we are crawling, all the other countries in the world are looking at this and understanding that they should hope for china, but wait, quietly, so culture has not yet crawled. yes , he said enjoy. yes, look here. they say cowardice, they crawled, here
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they crawled crawled crawled and crawled to such a state that now china is simply, well, practically the number one country in the world, maybe this is not cowardice, but still, well, the wisdom of the state that they were thrown out of some countries of latin america and staged the maximum humiliation. taiwan , if china had made itself decisively before, there would have been no visit to the pilot if they had considered something, the americans considered that china would behave, as, for example, erdogan himself would behave in this situation. they wouldn't come close to the mystery, but that's not the point on the other side right now. china is ready to help the russian federation on the sly through maximum circuit series. why because china does not need a direct clash with the united states, the chinese are unhappy that we, in their opinion, have climbed very deep into the bottle because of us, now the americans are putting pressure on china, they are unhappy, but the defeat of us is a special operation in ukraine or, as putin said in the war in ukraine for china scenario. just totally unacceptable no defeat. not so, that compromise or agreement that will be in
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fact the russian defeat of the garden, china will be left face to face without russian resources without russian ones. means china helps us in the quiet and so on. you have not seen the face of sergei feliksovich. i look at him carefully, he had just like i don’t know yet the analogue of the russian facepalm. this is when you do, here's his right to think so. i tell it like it is. he will say how it was necessary then colleagues. i’m probably forced to simply refute the fakes that we hear, and above all, of course, this concerns china , including the fact that some kind of crisis is planned in china, except for you, no one is talking about this at all, on the contrary. there are statistics the fact that the chinese are right for the fact that you stopped at least praying. west is already good. there is absolutely no need to gloat, especially now we will also get to you the
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authoritarian system of china that was voiced. i believe that china has the most democratic brain, because it is just directed. i beg you, let us have a thousand-year history so under heaven now. no no no. i’m wondering, i definitely said exactly this, because yegor khvalevich refused us and told us that the relationship and the whole investigation are fine, i’m not now income. i'm gone. now interested in taxes do you want me to also scream at you quietly right people than fine. if everything is so good, why don't they want to help us more it was said that these are chinese underpants. here, explain that it’s not true with such words of our partner himself, who is closest to us, the closest is not, the other side, which today physically actually does as much as china does for russia in words in the general police, i directly state things
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that exactly the united states is carrying responsibility for the escalation in the situation in ukraine in plain text they say show that they will continue all meetings and conversations at the highest level. do you agree with bloomberg's definition that china has all the tools to soften the blow of western sanctions on the russian economy, but china is not entrepreneurship. china is doing everything. we held the final conference of the russian chinese business cooperation for the twenty-second year last week and outlined the forecasts for the 23rd. listen to the concrete conclusions there. well, it's better to listen to concrete practical things than western ones. fakes, and then discuss them like this. we grew the second year by 30% our trade. in this crisis, we have grown by 30%. so no, not a single product that today would be china would refuse us supplies to the russian market. not a single one was said about sibur's problems under
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this so let's go, i agree with sergey feliksovich in one thing, what are we talking about? we are not talking about cowardice here at all, that is, there is no cowardice. no cowardice can be traced in the actions of the chinese leadership. this is a rational pragmatic calculation in the external politicians. sometimes they don’t call it that, china doesn’t, a pragmatic calculation - it’s beautiful that it didn’t happen, which, for example, would not lead to the problems that russia is now facing. now, if a decision had been made at the beginning of this year, which we are now, now we are returning to look. in china, it proceeds from its own national interests, the leadership of china is not obliged to proceed from what is interesting in russia, america, europe, or any other countries. and what about china's national interests in relations
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with russia, this is really a continuation of the strategic partnership, which is also at the diplomatic level and at the informational level of the visit. say, support russia if they crush us, uh, it really uh, a situation arises when china is left alone. wait, all ukrainians will crush us. then they will come and conquer everyone and nikolaevich will be the president, this is not the worst option, practically no one thinks that it’s simple, if this is the case then it’s in china’s interests to support his country, yes, which is like this in a sense means to understand. let's put ourselves in their shoes for a second . come on and what do they see. they see that russia's success in the special military operation is not so much to count on the victory, that the victory of their chinese point of view is not necessary, this is not my opinion.
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listen, yes, yes, we are our own, therefore the decision of the chinese. hold the cable to the extent that russia would like now, this is an obvious decision and it is based on certain facts, and among these factors , russia's successes or failures in the special military operations, the chinese believe that russia is in the best interests of russia being a single indivisible sovereign, but at the same time weak enough for chinese influence on the territory of russia to increase, but it’s very much any country, not only america, is interested in having more influence on russia, well , and china is interested in having more influence on russia. china is interested in becoming stronger, including in the north, therefore, strong russia in strong russia, interests are quite weak , not only for russia, but you will also throw yourself
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deny that it is important for china that russia become more dependent on china but is it? alive, it doesn’t matter that different countries command even before russia. let’s be more dependent on him. it’s clear. that’s how nikolayevich acts, that they said that this is not the worst option. it was the best option, but modestly said. let's just share. this is my assumption in two parts will not. yes no no no no no no no no no, because i absolutely do not support ukraine winning a military victory, even bringing us some nice person to the post the president of the military victory cannot be sidelined in this conflict. but what exactly can be in this. unfortunately. now interested. all very well, very many strong, global participants in the processes to ensure that this continues for a long time . chinese women, of course, are interested, of course, they are drawn here,
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because here i can only support, and i say that of course. stable within the boundaries and stable. in terms of holding power and the army, russia with a weakened economy is very beneficial for both china and the united states, of course, because this is a resource, where the sale of cheap resources from us, unfortunately, is how it has developed for 30 years. you want to say that the chinese are now trying to wait and are trying, uh, such uh, to achieve the goal in two ways, that is, by maintaining political ties at a high level. they hmm means working for some political stability in the country. that is, putin is all that, but damn it, yes, he doesn’t give us any additional help, they work to ensure that our economy is quietly absolutely like this and to unfortunately, we are on this path. let's continue with the theory. confidence. understood your question, unlike the rest of the world.
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it is china that cooperates with us in the high-tech sphere, for example. in space exploration, the joint exploration of the moon consumes our nuclear power and so on. do not make space topics only a cult because of the energy of russia, but also other areas. this is china and only china , so draw your own conclusions, don't be mistaken in belarus aleksey nikolaevich i bet. so look situation. today is such that china needs russia more than what china is. on the eve of a very serious crisis and conflicts, the united states, in which it needs some kind of rear, needs allies, so the weakening of russia is definitely not in the interests. china is, first of all. secondly, well, of course, these land corridors.
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thirdly, it is absolutely obvious that without support there is a group of countries there that have stood aside directly or even rooted . there, china, india, we would have to hone something else right now, but prosperity in the economy was not, so when he said that china does not support us. this is not true. we're not talking enough not too long ago see the foreign minister spoke here recently, china said that the relationship between china and russia is strong as a rock who else needs some proof, and this shows that russia is badly needed by china for the future not now. and here's a long run, so, well, i don't see what you need. in what capacity as an ally, because yes, russia is an ally, and a junior partner, the second second in the world in terms of armaments and there in the five in economics. and if the relationship to turnips is like rocks, then i also
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translated panktam, like the rock, someone like the monolith, i also really liked this saying, but there is a fact that chinese state-owned banks are partially, well, they are afraid of american sanctions for cooperation with russia, they are afraid if screams, how the state banks prayed. you work with ours, as you worked before, and yet they look back, so not like a monolith, and this is equal to a thing. see here completely understand the history of the chinese. how is it fair to say to a colleague they are looking for a balance of interests, but one must understand that strategically, in the long run, relations between russia and china will only grow stronger and will continue. well, actually strengthen, and from the point of view of the military. if we talk about the short term for the coming months there, it is clear that there will be some kind of economic crisis in china. he's already started there. yes? this is what we talked about before , how it will be, most likely, not long and not difficult after that, the chinese economy will recover and purchases, including russian fuel. that's just to grow
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ugh, that is. as a result, we should actually have remained on the plus side of relations and cinema, my view is that relations with china and with russia and relations with the chinese the united states is a very complex interweaving of various interests, but i am also one of those who believes that china is not a friend, but just a tactical companion of russia, well, such a tactical temporary ally, this is an alliance that china will be the first to refuse, as soon as it ceases to be beneficial to our enemy. no, he will not become an enemy. the question we have with china is not love, but business relationship, so when we say different were the relationship. well, yes, that's the point, if we remember the soviet period, very unstable relations, so i say this is just a temporary tactical alliance, and we ask why china does not help russia more. yes, but simply because he understands that russia is not going anywhere from him. china is the only
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consumer of our energy resources along with russia. by the way, pay attention yes, well, india yes, but pay attention, but they generally, as it were, are selling politics. and the fact that our oil is urals. remember, we said that when the eu g7 introduces a ceiling on oil prices. all oil prices will skyrocket and the price and oil will trade there for astronomical prices. no , look, we do not trade. even flush with the ceiling, we trade our brand of oil, below the ceiling. this is because china will never join the oil price ceiling, but it will force us to give it a friendly discount. but what difference does it make to us, how is india like this, what difference does it make? how it's called? under a friendly discount? china from us. this is the same price ceiling. here is this here is this alliance with china now hmm please look from the other side. he is well aware that russia simply has nowhere to go technologically. we are also completely dependent on china absolutely completely even more dependent, but it seems that so, if
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of summer holidays. call and order a mini-automatic folding washing machine with an incredible discount for only 2.000.99 rubles. call by phone or order on our website leomax.ru the perfect storm in europe is i don’t like what exchange rate of the ruble to expect in the new year? the strong ruble has played its rudder, will it save the country from the global crisis, manual control of everything ukraine should become more creative and who will skim the cream off the new world depression, where is it written that we cannot lead production around the world about this right now? this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear to him. we continue. now let's take a few minutes, and let's devote uh to our currency, that means, here, i
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emphasize again. i'm not really into it right now i follow everyone, not now for a long time. well, when did it somehow happen that i have rubles? everything else no to me. in general, somehow it is not interesting. unlike that friend of mine who still is. well, you know his history with repairs, that means a dollar. this is what we are talking about the results for the last week the dollar rose almost e. well, a little more than five rubles euro for almost seven rubles at the beginning of this week. there was a small correction, but in general, not very much yet, of course. yes, more than seventy more than 70 euro dollar dollar. well i today in rus' yesterday. now i don’t remember who said that, in general, alexei nikolayevich spoke about this in the first place. i remember this for sure that everything will return after some time, and to the previous indicators. eh, so it was said. so dollars and euros will return to those values that have been familiar to
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us lately, that is, it seems, how it will go down, on the other hand, what is it? well , this is autumn, well, that's what well, do not let down for a short time. on the other hand, here in the announcement, we gave you a piece from the statement of andrei belousov, first deputy prime minister government. now. let's see a little more, uh, expanded his opinion. he says that the strong ruble played its role, it seems, how the whole issue is closed. a strong ruble played on his steering wheel. but now now we see that in conditions when our incomes are falling, our companies and exports are falling. well, it's not flexible. if you take, well, oil is also, of course, a hydrocarbon, nor an elastic rate. in general , the incomes of exporters there yes, they are definitely sagging, but i say it again, the total is sagging. and this is to say in these conditions to us, of course, it would be nice to have a ruble it would be nice to have
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70-80 e rubles per dollar. that is, one sergeyevich that now it's good. do you understand? what kind of thing is the currency of the russian federation located in? well, quite a serious government control. we do not have a free exchange rate of the ruble, not a free statement by andrei muramovich. it seems to me that e is indicative and this is what will happen, that is, if the government hints, or something, this is not a hint. this is a direct statement. this is a direct statement. i think this should be counted as a direct statement. if audrey ivanovich says that there should be somewhere around 78 chickens. and this is what you are counting on, it is unlikely that there will be anything else, you can somehow then, so that andrey ramovich. yes, it will be clear to everyone that i’m waiting for nabiullina to increase the lower insertions there and, in short, say volatility every time and all in short ranges, it’s quite possible, that is, changes sharply change the ruble exchange rate against the dollar and other currencies quite, perhaps more than that, because not everything is controlled.
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andrei renovich, maybe to some extent. unfortunately, why was december 15 changes in the refinancing rate? mills and the european central bank they did a mirror image of half a percent. it is possible to influence this belousov cannot influence this about belousov will affect the ruble exchange rate has already affected, so not all those factors that are under the control of the government can affect the ruble exchange rate, don’t say it. well, we have a global economy, the fed rate and so on. here is our man who, out of habit, unlike you, from the revolution on the dollar continues to spy on it, when he changes himself there, he thinks that he can save. although the previous six months. and even a year almost showed him that, in general, this is very strange, nevertheless, now he should go buy a few rubles on his own , wait a few more dollars, and he will be 80 or this is the wrong tactic and do so. there is no need to do anything in short positions . no need. if you want to save money, you don't have to do anything, guard it. in what else is this not short storage. what
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is called speculation? accordingly, this is the answer to ivan's question now to yours. and you answer the question, if you want to sit for a long time, respectively, in the currency in which you trust. you trust the dollar, buy the dollar. sit quietly, you were told 70-80 rubles. for a dollar. everything then is another question for evgenievich, because let's talk with andrei as a worker. yes, absolutely in this case. what was the concern. uh, the strong uh ruble created big problems for the ministry of financial budgets, of course, yes, the budget deficit was growing, and this caused quite serious nervousness in various structures. now there is a devaluation. uh, devaluation ruble. uh, according to the prices of the main export flows. that is, for oil and gas, more or less everything has leveled off, but the budget. uh, more or less the prospects are stable, and there
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will be no prohibition of change. now, when it starts. depends on whether you are willing to take risks? for example, i'm not ready, so i keep money in ofz, uh in bo- in these bonds ministry of finance because. if they are, then the money won't matter, it will only matter , uh, the potato patch. a. maybe i'm the only one so humane, why does he say that, he thinks that everything will come back to these, that 's what he is talking about last time we talked about the fact that the current weakening of the ruble is fucking cultivating, yes. then some kind of tax period will begin, as if the tax period needs to be included , respectively, then some ruble strengthens, and then a new weakening of the ruble begins and called the yakur, if i'm not mistaken 75-85. well, after that, it’s possible that this was quite a long time ago, but now it turned out that belarusians think about just like mine this here is a jacket. this is what
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i say forecast, and 75-85 this is due to the fact that russia's oil and gas revenues will definitely fall next year, moreover, it is expected that the same global crisis, which apparently will not happen there will be no serious failure. so you said that a global crisis is expected, which, apparently, with rapture, as if rubbing its hands, but, i definitely won’t be a global crisis. there will be some slowdown in the economy, and it will last for the first two quarters of the next year, that is, the first two quarters of the global context will be weak. after that, the recovery of the global economy will begin, including with rising oil prices and russia is going to work on this, that is, the first two quarters of next year will be weak and we will see the same rate of 75 85 to this, says our friend belousov him to do your friend, i constantly ask at the end of the year
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regularly. here. there is some amount accumulated again by overwork, it is better to spend an hour or six months later something wait for some such now buy spend it now, because inflation will not go anywhere, nor ruble non-revolution, but you need to save again, you need to understand how much to save. how long do you keep? because now, if it were not necessary, yes, and some people consider investing in real estate. i think, quite rightly, real estate is a more serious story. than, for example, there are savings to work a little, because a funny interesting story. if you look closely, as the central bank of the ministry of finance or other authors, means an abnormal word that made its way generally from the back porches. so listen, after all, it ’s not the best not in the office. there are higher
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levels. they are the participants of the authors means. active protagonists are andreyevich, these are four words, one word, one word, he wants to show his education and always talk about incomprehensibly, which means foreign rules. stop this , that's what it was said to pray back here, damn it, and stop calling a sweater a sweater is also a foreign word. come on, i'm talking about a sweater, nothing at all spoke. yes, ivan ivanovich came here for the first time to pay attention to this. said important event. i said no more important will be when jan yanych comes not in a sweater. i come friends. so let's go with everyone, finally. yes, if we listen to everyone, we will pay attention to the fact that everyone explains everything in different ways. yes, so this is due to a-a reduction in the cost of oil, which means a fall, which means, uh, gases, everything else means, and others say the ministry of finance says, and this is because imports have grown, which means oreshkin and
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i like this version more . actually says that their objective prerequisites for, uh, this jump was not, why i like it more, because if there is no december statistics, but if we look at japanese statistics, uh, the central bank, we have a surplus nowhere gone, and there are no factors like this that affect the ruble, forcing the ruble to fall, there is logic here, just financing if we return. of course, if we return to silyanovo, he spoke about precisely these in the middle of the year. pointers what the dollar will mean in the range of 70-75. why? this is logic very simply, because the budget deficit is growing, it needs to be closed, because pensions need to be paid. social benefits need money to continue their work and, accordingly, due to the fact that the exchange rate of the dollar to the euro increases a little, due to this, the additional income will see the rate of 75-80, and then 80-85. these are our people, when you say, when you say oh , it is necessary to close some kind of budgetary one
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. i suggest listening to how belousova seluanovo hides behind quotations. here everything is absolutely objective. this is what i think that these are absolutely manageable processes, and in our government and as we see oreshkin , the dispute with belousov needs a strong ruble, not a strong ruble. who else will win? it might be a little back in government, president. let's go then. let's unhook and return back and forth to the words of alexei nikolayevich, who tells us to regulate the volume of currency sales, to advise the owners of the currency to throw something on the market. and what is it to hold on to? well, human conversation from the human course, i propose to unhook us again with alexey nikolayevich, he uttered the phrase for which we all grabbed, which means that there will be an expected world crisis, which most likely will not happen. that's about it. we think a little , because when it's time, that's why i pointed to you when it was said to wipe the handles. i immediately pointed at you, rubbing their hands, waiting for the unbelievable
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, they are talking about the global crisis, so this is not very good for russia, because the world economy is falling down, oil consumption and gas consumption are going down, we earn less. but if look at our economy now, which is in a state like some experts. they say, well, such a besieged fortress, a defending fortress, maybe this crisis is possible, it is not yet a fact that it will not affect us as much as the previous one. let's take a look at these thoughts. for example, now the russians are experiencing a lot of difficulties in strata and money abroad. fresh case on friday the largest georgian bank bank. georgia unexpectedly informed users from russia about the imminent closure of their accounts. without explanations of the reasons for the withdrawal of money were given 5 days , i close it in batches. that is, for today i received, only i received three messages from my clients. what they said today, dear client, now you have 5 days to withdraw your
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funds, and you are no longer our colleague and client. and in general, he doesn’t like himself at all, as far as industry and trade are concerned, a significant part of production in our country is designed primarily for domestic consumption, while it remains in demand for the outside world. we are as before we act as exporters of raw materials for grain fertilizers. in this sense, the openness of russia is preserved after the departure of the western company from the russian market, imports of goods have fallen sharply, it turns out abroad. we began to buy much less in 9 months of this year , 474,000 703 were sold, and new cars. this is 59.2% less than in the same period last year. that is to say, imagine half the market even more than half the market settled in the best years. on the russian market, 2 million were sold there. almost 200.000
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cars in parallel in russia are being strengthened centralization of the economy in october. mikhail mishustin expanded the powers of the government commission to improve the sustainability of the economy. some call it the prototype of the state planning commission. and the ministry of agriculture allegedly already thought about regulating food prices, according to the newspaper vedomosti, a sugar producer hinted at this. deputy minister oksana lut called the acceptable range of sugar prices in the region of 553 rubles. for 1 kg. she did not advise to exceed it. in addition, the deputy minister urged producers not to stick to sugar in warehouses ivan ivanovich, and the fact that we now more closed off from the global economy than a year ago. this is for us in case of a crisis. if only, of course it will, but it will still be unclear. it's good or not. well , first of all, there will be no crises, there will really be a recession. i agree, but on the other hand we don't care. why because many goods just formally
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come to us and purely formally from this point of view. again, here's a lot of dollars to us. in general, unfortunately, it is not really needed easier. so they ask. if it does, but calling it a big crisis, here they are sit, and clearly do not agree with you will. it 's just a recession, so there's some big trouble going on. some distance away from us, it so happened that we are now closed. yes, the plant is from that side. it doesn’t matter where some kind of trouble happens, does this mean that when there this unpleasant thing will happen because we are far away, we will be better off or not here, why, because the demand for our goods, which, as it were, beloved , it's not a gas. here it will inevitably decline in terms of. even again uh, we will supply also a lot we will supply cheaper. you have already gone through this three times
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and, as it were, will suffer accordingly. this is our domestic consumption, about which it was said now in the price, this is not entirely true, because now look again, here is the same thing with the exchange rate that was done in 1414. the men just took it. all these here are senior economists. look here. well, now foreign journalists. they experience when our stores go, they experience surprise , bewilderment, there indignation says how it is see russian already. how many years under sanctions about this year. these are not sanctions , some super sanctions, hyper popper sanctions, but they have all the stores full of goods and let's count . that's why i'm asking, now here we go to the store. i can buy sugar, i can buy bread, and i can even buy buckwheat completely. and you can buy quietly quietly quietly wait. wait, engine. don't
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knock down. me. okay, it still won't work. do it somehow the situation will change. in the case of this big trouble with our stores with the filling of the shelves in our stores with the filling has not changed, will not change, but in fact, you are not fooling yourself. you cannot buy it. can you ask to see? why? well, because you should not have money, well, be afraid of god well, be afraid of the gods, well, let's see, the cancellation of the mission. mission cancellation. no one understood the most uh, the poor people's real income will rise. that's the way to understand hit hit rich in the middle class. it's true, that's why the word looked class does not define the average drop, what's what's real? yes, the total
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real incomes, ue have indeed decreased, but only at the expense of, yes, and a higher income group. take indicators, excuse me. you have the same word coefficient gine coefficient, which i characterize the differentiation of income, it has significantly reduced with the red card, therefore. nowhere far away. wait, indicated the volume for the last few years there. uh, the state’s social spending understood all sorts of payments and already received a testimonial that we propose so that you all hear and then discuss it. the beggars did not become impoverished. expand, please, those who experience the problems of hunger and the provision of current needs absolutely absolutely i agree we are talking, but i’m saying it differently now once again below
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the poverty line, according to official data , about thirteen or seventeen percent live there, depending on it, there are those very lower 2, that is, two two two times ten percent of those who live below the poverty line, who live very poorly. so here it is yes, they did not become poor, because how they interrupted what is being prepared from water to bread, so you do not beat from water to bread on them import restrictions did not work, because they did not consume imported goods and will not work in the future and continue to talk about these people. it is necessary to say with regret that they need all kinds of help. but to say that in general, ah, the people, so to speak, in general, will have more or the same amount of money, but this is an imaginary miracle that is unlikely to ever happen, because yes, real incomes are falling. yes, if there is a decline, there will be a recession for two or
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three quarters, that is, the fall of the economy in europe, which is most likely already happening. it's just that we don't see this statistics yet statistics are always like a rearview mirror, then, of course, oil prices and gas prices. they will also go down. naturally, importers to china and india will naturally say, you know, uh, $40 a barrel . let's go. now let's continue talking about $40 per barrel and so on. how is it all connected to calculate on a concrete example the reason for our oil and gas income was introduced. as you remember, on the fifth of december, the ceiling on the eve of vladimir putin, at the end of december, signed a decree on our response measures, what is it all this whole situation with the ceiling and our response threatens our budget with. vladimir putin on the eve signed a decree on retaliatory measures to introduce a ceiling on prices for russian oil , the document prohibits the supply of russian oil and oil products to companies. if you are directly or indirectly mentioned in their contracts price ceiling ban will come into effect from february, 2033, in principle position on what to
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supply e, our main energy resource, at some prices that western countries will set. we won't, we won't allow it. here the consumer dictates over the market uh this one, because today it is a limitation of prices for uh to offer. introduced against russian manufacturers tomorrow western countries. they will think, uh, they will think they are leading prices for others. uh, so manufacturers are the business. we can’t say with this already in november, according to the ministry of finance. oil and gas revenues were minimum for 2 years. december brought new problems for the oil industry in the form of the notorious ceiling, prices, and on the eve of anton siluanov admitted that the oil sanctions. the west may have an unpleasant effect on next year's budget. it is possible that its deficit will exceed the
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initially planned level. and this is 2% of gdp, the central bank called the ceiling actions a new shock for the russian economy, the number of oil buyers will decrease, transportation will imitate and discounts will increase. in this case, initially the budget. such costs were not built into a long period of low prices. or their additional strong declines could lead to a sustained loss of income for exporters as geopolitical tensions escalate and tightening sanctions worsen the outlook. disk exports mean a faster reduction in the trade balance, creating pressure on the ruble. and the weather in europe is now, unfortunately, not on our side due to an abnormally warm winter. europeans consume gas in smaller volumes than expected, which means that the price of blue fuel is at stake, it did not fall at the level of february 22 of this year and supplies and pipeline gas from russia to germany has gone to none. now we mainly buy
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gas from norway. this is 30-35% of the total volume we need. but now this percentage is even higher than the rest of the volumes, we get gas rails from the netherlands to belgium and france now flow from west to east. arkady nikolaevich people who are worried. will we have enough money in the budget, they argue that the budget includes an average price of $ 70 per barrel for the next year in connection with all this recession crisis, whatever you want to call our oil, they buy less. costs. she's smaller too. i will not delve into the price now, because you will describe whether there is a risk that the budget will not critically reach the last time i said that people who worked on the budget learned how to calculate well a long time ago and foresaw all these risks. he says, someone and eugene, this is directly what i said and i absolutely confirm this. so. explain again for this and it is written to people how it will all
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work. well, look. we have, uh, hockey export-oriented economy in many yes, because that's quite large part of the budget revenues is obtained from exports, but nonetheless. there are not only oil and gas exports. this is, firstly, and secondly, this oil and gas export. it may decrease, let's say, in volume, but the price is growing, that's what happened this year and the proceeds from oil and gas exports. in general, it practically does not differ from last year, when it was now delivered in dollars and the price is growing. now it is not growing, while we see the ruble exchange rate, and due to this we did not see it. no, 86 here, yes, and when did it start? and when over it doesn't matter, but when the jump began, uh, on the exchange rate of the dollar was practically, uh, the quote was about 70? yes, this is to the fact that it all directly depends on oil, but this is by no means the case. this is not a direct relationship right away.
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moreover, these speculative attacks, at the end of the year, they always happen and speculators always push the ruble up, or rather the dollar up, i apologize for the ruble down. why because, well, as if the situation is successful there, so many close contracts many, so to speak, draw a line and therefore there is an option to do something like this, how to say, everything that concerns the next year and the tendency to gain a foothold in this trend will earn a good business operation on this leap. here is one that is predicted with a crisis uh, hmm year or not. and there is such a scenario that yes. everything will be a little worse, but other options have been calculated in the economy. we have begun to work more on the domestic market. this is a multiple of the defense industry, which has now increased its volumes very seriously, and here is the salary in the defense industry. paying the armed forces today, a colleague talked about how that our income is falling. and here it is not. we have forgotten this sector or something, but it is very
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significant and salaries. there are very significant good ones. this is also an incentive for consumption, and further taxation and so on, except for oil and gas exports. we have exports and other from grain it says metals. how big is the risk that, in order to ensure all these increasing salaries in rubles , the prices of the ruble will have to be slightly devalued, because in dollars we will receive a pension, the risk today is calculated as in such a way that even if this failure happens, firstly, we have this reserve of national welfare at the expense of which this whole thing can be covered once, and secondly, to this day. we are very good at borrowing what we see in the market, please. yeah well, this is the second conversation there details, so let's talk about it. you can say, that is, these are three, damn it, accumulated. this 30 is actually predicted. big here is the worst scenario, in which something is envisaged there yes, such a budget deficit, while
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does not go beyond, 5% 5% you said to print more money, but earlier they said that when money is printed, this money depreciates. this is what the university told me. maybe it's wrong until recently. our government fought against inflation and fought successfully. yes, the central bank, yes, which is not part of the government, but today this year and in general, next year the philosophy of the government has changed, and before they spent what they collected, did not collect, did not spend. today they are spent. only how much is needed, that is, it is stated that the amount is all the money that is needed. they will somehow appear from somewhere, yes, and all the needs of the government. well, the countries will be closed. if oil revenues fall taxes will fall. this means that the government will enter the market and start borrowing money. yes, but it’s easier now they will have a mission, then i’ll tell you, and in this way all expenses will be closed
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and the real incomes of the population, including social obligations, will be fulfilled regardless of what the dollar will be, what will be the oil a and how much taxes will be collected, that is, this year the position of the russian government in relation to the financial system has fundamentally changed inflation, inflation will now be secondary to us, but it will not be bad. well, we'll survive. well , let's see, wait too many objections. they took control of inflation - well, it's just elvir sekhimzatova. she's choked up now. sorry, the orientation has been preserved. yes there is a systematic decline in inflation today inflation was 21 years old, this will not prevent inflation from coming out years per level. well, how the philosophy has
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changed in the country. yes? let's arkady nikolaevich then. let me explain, he you have already explained. yes, here is my position here regarding borrowing regarding all the costs and, accordingly, which will definitely lead to an increase in inflation. we have heard this matter. now about uh, the whole story. i will give a very simple example, the same china. yes, it is slightly behind the united states in terms of borrowing today. yes, trillion trillion dollar debt. and what about inflation there in china, what are you tell me you won't tell me, because, probably, you haven't looked, right? and why don't you look there like that, because a person, because there is a
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state policy when inflation is directed at these things. the same one. here in this one, too, a colleague grins. do you know how many tools the central bank has to control inflation, do you know? their whole butter. what kind of inflation was in russia at different times since 1913 ? the audience is seething, the audience responds well to a very simple thing. uh, discussion tool. this is what is now arkady nikolaevich demonstrated to us and you explained your position. now let me explain. here you say, this is it. here, let's compare you know such a figure? no, you don’t know, but i know, you know such a figure, no, you don’t know, but i know, therefore, when a person says that i know this , you don’t know anything, the audience. naturally will believe him first of all great health. i'm all of you somehow trying to
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about that brought me down and god i understand that everyone is in a festive mood. i mean, if you follow the publications of the western press, then in the expectation of this something big unpleasant. and there is one country that behaves. well, not very good in relation to others. guess one time. which country is meant in the publications of the policy of mont figaro and so on right? it's the united states of america because they, well, they have such a talent, they somehow know how to extract mushrooms all the time. yes, yes, it is possible. let's take a look at these publications to see what the europeans are not happy with. back in september , gas production in the united states approached a record three billion cubic meters per day. in europe , this gas is sold at three-way prices, i take advantage of it, a desperate situation due to the rejection of russian fuel. what the americans themselves actually insisted on. europeans, slowly see the united states
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they sell us their gas with a fourfold multiplier effect when it crosses the atlantic, of course, the americans are our allies. but when things go wrong between the allies, it is also necessary to say that the united states is the largest arms exporter. on them, according to the newspaper. it accounts for more than half of the world’s sales of the conflict in ukraine for american manufacturers, a real klandike, thanks to kiev’s military assistance, gunsmiths in the united states got rich. the most generous gift by the end of the year was given to them by joe biden, promising the ukrainians worth half a billion dollars he counts from the memo. perhaps it was written by defense contractors who had just held an event in washington for the ukrainian ambassador, they literally put their logos on the invitation so that it was obvious to everyone what was happening, according to the figaro newspaper, europe is also dissatisfied with how the united states under the pretext of caring for the environment are actively
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attracting european manufacturers, luring them with state subsidies. many fear that europe is facing uncontrolled de-industrialization. it means more and more factories. will have to shut down due to wasted energy, which could eventually lead to a recession in europe. so what are european producers doing to survive? they're leaving and europe doesn't like it. that is, we can think here? uh, it will be worse for us or not very worse in the conditions of some kind of global upheaval. but the fact that the americans will be better and better, there is no doubt, is victorosis correct or not? why won't you wait , joseph evgenievich well, as for the americans in a recession in america is expected really not some kind of global crisis, not a global crisis. no crisis at the level of the financial crisis of the seventh eighth year, but the downturn is indeed a classic economic downturn, virtually all individual
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american states. it still earns much better than everyone knows to develop. it will develop quite dynamically. and, of course, uh, the main benefit is the acquirer, and economic and proper and political. and everything that happens this year. we have the main benefit for this moment. this is the united states of america. they were able to use this situation very effectively in order to a change, uh, economic relations with europe, that is, to receive dividends where the europeans lost and the europeans have nothing to complain about here, here is one of the speakers. i spoke not earlier than february 4th, in general, all the processes that we are talking about now, which we are discussing, they began much earlier, but the current process, what is happening this year, has accelerated them, because what is happening has now made europe even more dependent on the
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united states than before, when the european. here, uh, european speakers were saying that when there are some problems between or there are some problems between the allies, they have to say it, but awesome states, the current situation is beneficial. they will continue to operate. in the same vein, europe is becoming more economically dependent on the united states and less dependent on russia to the united states. this is very profitable. both of you are talking about russia. mentioned, but what the usa means from europe, removes them for itself. we are here yan yanych , maybe to you. we can get some benefit from this, some kind of joy or nothing good, since europe is raking up european fat for itself, is it good for us from a not very fat neighbor, maybe i can get some from him from this it is neither hot nor cold, that is, when you say we, you sort of specify who it is. and how did you effectively separate yourself from me, because i really don’t like the word we
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you know, it's like i love to sing, it's possible there, i don't like to sing in the choir, but it feels yes , yes, yes, absolutely right. and if we talk about those who won, then there is no need to try to put labels, you just need to say the military-industrial complex in all countries has won and will continue to win, be it american with russian french german and so on. yes, these are all people. will receive increased orders, and not only this and next year, but over the course of at least the next decade, salaries in these sectors will grow. someone, i think, has already spoken about this, but we have military orders. it's strain, good pay. yes, quite right, probably, the uralvagon plant, which supposedly works in three shifts, is probably happy with what is happening, most likely. so. well, how is it? well, in my opinion, no one argues with this opinion that the development of the military-industrial complex pulls along with it, and you know the economy in general. there is such an
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opinion, there is another opinion that development only throws grains into the ground, and whether they germinate or not depends on general climate, if the general climate is unfavorable, then no matter how much you leave it , or it is known to rot in our country. yes, we have a well-known northern climate here. as for, so to speak. that's what some industries are leaving, while others are coming, you know in the late sixties in the usa there were very loud voices that we are losing our electronics industry because the japanese are doing it. much better, faster and more efficiently, we no longer have factories that produce televisions in the seventies in europe , they told mothers their industry in favor developing countries, because our textile workers are our garment workers. our shoemakers can not compete with cheap wholesale manufacturers from southeast asia. and this is a normal process. it 's absolutely nothing normal. you have the opportunity to travel abroad for something. you can leave new ones, you can go to greece somehow and talk, and so i stayed there until it was gone, it's too
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expensive good. here you are with the locals who grow olives. here you are with them talk how happy they are, then, because that greece is in the european union and that there are olives yes, they put them in. yes, because they can’t also betray it to italy, which they then export. it's like don oil. yes, the main producer is wonderful greece and everyone is happy, and iosif evgenievich, you are returning to us by uh pens, so vanya helps tectonic shifts. yes, there was a case, but a global global crisis. it has been said for a long time that the global crisis will be just gouging and will not seem enough to anyone. explain, please, what is happening, uh, not everything has been indicated here america has become a vacuum cleaner that collects money from all over the world. well funded. ah. excuse me,
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the us national debt, please wait, one second. no. let's stop here for a second. you always tell us that the united states national debt is an ass, so full for me. here it gives. here is arkady nikolaevich next to him. he now cited china as an example to us and said that the chinese have such a debt and why is nothing, everything is so cool. why the chinese are in debt - it's cool, but the americans have a debt - that's a question is only a fraction of the budget. which goes to service this debt so today. uh, literally this week this figure will become more than half a trillion, so even for the american economy, half a trillion budget. eh, it's still the significance of this first. and secondly, ah. excuse me in the conditions when people start to think about whether it is possible to continue to buy dollars to buy , well, saudi arabia says this guys
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, let's, we will sell housing oil, they and so on. these are the very ones, while very americans still earn. this increases the risks of their financial stability. it's not the same thing at all. and those who answer, more or less sane people, say, you guys. and rush around again, it's already turned out. the nose pyramid of the financial pyramid is now being pulled out for itself , an anti-american europe is beginning to take shape. look at the public opinion polls. relationship. here. here it is necessary to beat immediately at all, otherwise it sits here insulting people, i don’t remember when it was the people’s decision. here
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are some who are dissatisfied with something dissatisfied dissidents are marginalized by someone else or what do millions understand when other european little men make a decision, and all those millions, and we are talking about forty percent of the adult population of europe who express dissatisfaction with the behavior of the united states, which leads simply to inflation, and in europe to decrease. house and so on. this is significant for me, because in the eighties and seventies we did not hear the same theses that the european population is protesting on the streets of a bonachka protesting on the streets of paris they did not achieve anything against american foreign policy, firstly, firstly, they did it wrong. these people, who took to the streets in hundreds of millions, they achieved an agreement on the creation of a treaty on the elimination of short -range missiles. it is now that
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the well-known union has been liquidated. let's go back, please, come up from the bowels back. now yes, the opinions of these people will definitely not become a political factor sergeevich yes, because, otherwise it now reminds me, uh, again a new statement, which is now uh, everyone appreciates it. latins are now a foreigner. to the vatican he asks forgiveness for the burnt copernicus this is now then so vladimir sergeevich thank you very much, first of all, i want to dodge to your plot absolutely delightful why because there was already this tonality, so to speak. and you know what economic growth rates were in the united states for the third quarter, you don’t know, but i’ll tell you 2.6, i’m right in your words, sixty percent. do you know for what? how much was just a minute , due to what so colleagues? please do not
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interrupt me, which means 2.6% growth due to which due to the fact that, more precisely, their net exports have grown in our country, all other positions, except for government spending, have fallen sharply, and investment and private consumption , household consumption, due to which, due to the very gas that was sold four times more expensive, european countries pinched their allies, pinched very well, why allies? do we know? why pinch yourself, and there is no one else to pinch, all the other countries have actually understood this and have actually begun to produce more or less nationally oriented politics. it's happening in latin america , it's happening in africa, it's happening in asia, god bless you in the russian federation, china, of course. uh, on the same fields, that is, in other words, there is no one else to pinch . here, they pinched the european union industrialization, which is now really going on in europe all over europe . for example, i watch with great regret the implementation units in germany. why are so many foundries closing? glass factories fertilizer plant all
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energy, high-capacity production experience wild energy shortage, respectively, the production of the usa is transferred why, because in the usa energy is cheaper - this is, firstly, and, secondly, not four times, and secondly, the us government finances an enterprise that moves from europe to the usa just for that green act, about which, so to speak, sergeyevich it will work out well then, if, uh, relatively speaking, the americans use the last chance to pinch, here they will pinch their allies. and when there will be nothing to fuck, then what do you think that this is not a decrepit empire, i just wanted an empire. they are the last ones i hear about it. do you understand? what's the thing within within within the processes are accelerating, now they are faster how many years huh? yes. how long did the roman empire last? well, a lot within a series, let's say, but nothing is infinitely many within the framework of human life, infinitely many, because in life there is no story
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payoffs, as i'll just repeat what i've already said, and then i'll add to this the payoff will be the military-industrial complex of all countries in which it is quite strongly developed, and i will add to this the answer to the question that you have a story, when my old friend stepan demura received the same question at the end of the eighth year. so what are you going to invest in now? he said the gold bar is only very small. why is it small? and then it will be very convenient to change them for bread and other food. it 's funny how alex sees the economy, in fact, it's not money economy, this picture of the world in the minds of people and those countries in which there are a large number of people who understand what to do and how to do it. here they will win it strange, developing rapidly, developing, unfortunately, russia has had big problems with this lately. so ivan ivanovich did not win everything in russia, i think that he will win from russia, well, in the face, as it were, of some. representatives, you know, after each crisis, the number of oligarchs increases in
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their wealth grows, here they are during the crisis and after the crisis, no one will win can't win. this nonsense will burn out. andrey ivanovich for now. i listen to everyone and understand that your friend will burn out in general, who will land at the dollar rate and make repairs. why why does he make repairs to get rid of all the money and worry he will do so and make repairs and make repairs. at least the walls will be painted won. in general, every time we have such a discussion, ah, i come to the conclusion that, of course, no one really knows . don't be offended. yes, today it’s just that yan yanovich said now, he gave an example, but such a ridiculous, very tragic forecast in its content that small bars of gold for bread are arrogant, when the forecast was made in 2008, nothing terrible has happened in these 14 years, therefore, there is no need
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to self-medicate such issues either. give me a pill, please. what bill of men is the pharmacy? there are a lot of white pills here , you don’t have to give one. it was a meeting place that cannot be changed . hello donbass under fire, ukrainian militants are not cease shelling of peaceful cities dozens of dead under the snow, entire us cities come to
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