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hello, this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear in the studio andrey norkin my colleague ivan trushkin, we are working live and again we will start with recent news. well, the news is literally there for the last hours. not that it's some kind, well, interesting. so i'll just tell you a rather interesting thing, which means that aleksey arrestovich is a person whom we periodically showed you one of the most active ukrainian speakers. he is a freelance, if i remember correctly, the adviser to the head of the office about the president of ukraine, uh, wrote a letter of resignation. and not just wrote, but photographed this statement, and posted it on social networks. see what's written there. wrote a letter of resignation to show an example of civilized behavior is a fundamental mistake. this means that aristovich resigned as a
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fundamental mistake. obviously, it is called his own saturday statement that the residential building in dnepropetrovsk, in which people died, was destroyed as a result of the work of ukrainian air defense. for this statement, the mayor of the city declared arrestovich and i accite myself, narcissistic cattle and garbage mouth and called on the security service of ukraine to respond. here is the arrestovich’s social networks, then they wrote him down as agents of the kremlin , they arranged such direct persecution for him full scale. at first, he tried to justify himself traditionally, that he was misunderstood, then he apologized, but this did not help . and the snakes, having begun collecting signatures for his dismissal from office, demanded that the president officially refute the quote of arrestovich's fantasy on military subjects, and why did i say that it was interesting, because alexey arrestovich, uh, actually said during this time - then a lot
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of things and he had such statements. well , for example, uh, he talked about the fact that the main the task of the kiev authorities is to achieve there, yes, the goals set. this is as much as possible to lie, remember, we often showed it to everyone during the week. yes, yes, yes, lie to western partners. uh, lie, then, uh, russian opponent to lie to the population of ukraine what? maxim well, what did you say correctly? by the way, yes. and why so why then often you this scandal started? because this is ukraine, because there, uh, jealousy, envy is part of it. i think the arrestovich national genetic code is doing its job. eh, very very effectively does so many in ukraine listen to him, but at the same time he remains himself, he is like that, but hmm, a toy playing by his own rules, but at some moments he speaks too naturally. you do not think that someone there called him said.
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this is so, namely, this thesis will be voiced by tezible's propaganda. yes, you know, i put it. maybe wrong, and on a par with e. hmm, the previous event, when they were removed from office, here is their ambudsman aunt, who is not. it's a good question to compare them in general. it is forbidden. why? well, because she absolutely. here i am a decent word freaked out. here's an absolutely fucked up arrestovich. so he's smart. yeah, sometimes he says absolutely the right things, but let's say that over the past few weeks, that it is unacceptable to mock the memory of the dead meant, uh, that it was a big mistake to crush the ukrainian orthodox church, but also. sorry it doesn't remember, it's past me, really. well, yes, i trust him, he said 6 million parishioners. i think more in fact that they cannot be turned into our enemies, split and so
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further. that is, he did some things absolutely well. this is a special case, you have the feeling that they are enduring it right now, because, if it’s quite simple to say , he ruined a new storm that they tried to arrange from dnepropetrovsk, there was one version that was promoted very actively, then an arrest was made and that’s it. in fact, this is inevitably the cost of the fact that, after all, not everything is still under the control of the state, that living life is living by politics on live air. we say that as if you are right. i think that yermak vo how much friend andriy vladimirovich yermak he is a smart person, he will make sure that zelensky does not sign a letter of resignation with such people. well, let's see what was wrong with the arrest officer's statement. and even arrestovich - this is a bank project of the zelensky project of the president's office, it was precisely explained
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that you want something in ukraine, it is fundamentally different. he actually accused the command of the armed forces of ukraine of killing people in ukraine in this way, if he is a banker, he immediately grows straight. so this is a conflict lines. zelensky zaluzhnikov wants to wet the zaluzhnikov. and that means there is no unity between the president and the armed forces. it's a very bad story, that's all. this is ukraine, of course. come on come on cat my salary. i'm listening to cat matroskin say that in order to sell something, you first need to buy something in order to sell something. i need to buy something first, i don’t need to know correctly, to be honest, where the arrestovich is firing from and in general his application should be written. i ask you to fire me with pay. they want to fire him from youtube. where are they from they are not full-time, adviser. he is outside the staff advisor to the office of the president, which has
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to buy pen and paper to serve the president. he talks about some kind of resignation. well, even that, let's give it to me, and now the main thing, and now the main thing, he is not necessary, do not underestimate mr. and yermak and, uh, mr. arrestovich. i am sure that after this step, mr. arrestovich will create his own political party, that is, to participate in the upcoming parliamentary elections. and it is the party that will have to replace medvedchuk and to collect the votes of those people who do not consider themselves bendera, and so on and so forth, he will gain 15% and will play along, baby, where the zelensky people is the second to serve this government. it is obvious. i don’t know how much he will gain there , which is more likely to capture kiev. we must save people already to pick up arrestovich.
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he uh was formalized as this is a three-time meal. that is, one cannot say that he is an order of whom he is an assistant to the head of the office. we had 33 assistants. 30. this is a normal practice in russia, the same advisers in the presidential administration are issued by order. friends my friends let's. we will now stop those people. money is not important. you are your friend, as maxim anatolyevich says, call tell him to be more careful there, because the talking ass - this is a quote i didn’t come up with, it has some bad looks. listen. let's stop for now, a good normal person, a normal person, a good one, and the rest, so there are no bad people for him, it was said about there about there. not
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bandera, yes, there was some kind of phrase. we what would you like to start with today? i wanted to say that until the last uh moment, the conversations hinted at some kind of comments about what is possible, a peaceful settlement. that's the whole conflict there through normal negotiations, as we understand it, yes, diplomatic or some sort of undercover agreements there was such a phrase. in general, all this appeared in the western press. our position was what we are ready for negotiations. guys, let's go and putin talked about it and lavrov said a thousand times, but no matter how no one wants to find negotiations to go on. and the day before an article has already appeared in our newspaper izvestia, which means yur wrote viktor medvedchuk although some doubt his authorship. let me remind you that viktor medvedchuk has not shown himself publicly since the moment he was
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exchanged , when we had november-october. , obviously there is, but then everything is in this evidence. a little confused. and now, in my opinion, the second or third day this article is being discussed, as in the good old days surkov's articles, let's see what is written there in this article. if the west does not want to listen to the point of view of another ukraine, then this is its business, but for ukraine such a point of view is important and necessary. otherwise this nightmare will never end. this means that it is necessary to create a political movement from those who did not give up, who did not renounce their beliefs on pain of death and prison, who do not want their country to become a place of geopolitical showdowns, the world should hear such people, no matter how the west demands a monopoly on the truth in russian social networks interpreted this call as a proposal to create some kind of government in exile headed by the medvedchuks themselves. and although he did not propose to exploit them as possible candidates in kiev, he already
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warns that the article is designed for sympathizers inside ukraine, the article was written for the ukrainian domestic consumer. and this, apparently, is an important part of the new information war that has been launched. one of these days you can put forward a hypothesis. that it is for the south-east of the country and here there should be the most severe reaction. from the side of the authorities because their information will come down to calls to block roads and pickets. they need to create a picture of another, a country that wants negotiations and peace. at the same time, the very figure of medvedchuk as a defender of peace raises questions, both in russia and in ukraine, ukrainian publications have long kept a mocking counter of empty promises that medvedchuk distributed to russia when he was the head of the second largest faction. in the rada , the opposition platform for life achieve an excellent payment for donbass curtail noxification stop the oppression of linguistic feature. as a result, when the name of medvedchuk appeared on the exchange lists. this
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decision in russia was not supported by everyone even before the start of the minsk talks. he also already took part, including in the exchange of prisoners, so it was here for us. that's a kind of debt, and taking into account how many guys, with his participation, managed to be released, huh? the fourteenth or fifteenth year, we all remember very well that the conditions were not the best somewhere and worse on the bbc decided that the release of the article was a sign that a political career medvedchuk from completion. true, without specific prospects, the open publication called him the one who convinced moscow that russia in ukraine was waiting for a quote with towels and carails medvedchuk did not raise the territorial issue either. even before the start of the big war, medvedchuk said more than once that he considers crimea to be the territory of ukraine is interesting. what position the new movement will take on the territorial issue is not in the article and medvedchuk’s reaction to the decision to
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take ukrainian citizenship from him, adopted last week, personally by zelensky weird. after all, it turns out a new ukrainian movement is created by a person without a ukrainian passport. so the question means, to whom vector medvedchuk is addressing, what does he want to say with this address of bogdan, well, from my point of view. he addresses, just not at all to the ukrainian audience. medvedchuk in ukraine. no one likes conditionally pro-russian voters. it was said here that not even just to ukraine, but to eastern ukraine, as it were. i don’t believe in it, i absolutely don’t believe it, in general, in ukraine, with medvedchuk. there is a nickname undersized, on the contrary. midas turned everything he touched into gold. medvedchuk turned into another substance, therefore, well, yes, yes, he gasped. here he was confiscated obviously because of this then, if the thread is ukrainian. this is an attempt here in russia to really create some kind of movement to get resources, money, and people, uh, everything else, in order to claim some kind of role, uh, in ukraine, which, it seems , is, as one of the correspondents of the
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battleships, sladkov, said we are going to create a neutral allied ukraine. well one of the towers the kremlin is going to create parts of a liter of the russian federation, for this it is necessary to write an article in izvestia, so that the kremlin would publish this open letter, in fact, at midnight. this is an article at midnight usually, but it produces commercial, commissioned published articles. how else can he get his point across? and if he is simply listed, and if he cannot, otherwise somehow convey his point of view. and why , then, is there hope that he will see this open letter, read it and give him money to create this kind of party, because it is obvious, but some kind of informal connection. he's lost, so he's turning that way. it is generally now in russia that a culture of open letters is beginning, but in where how many medvedev wrote open articles in a businessman in a russian newspaper. and why did he need this video in uh, we have a gost official. he can e express his opinion on important issues, including foreign political issues. yesterday i just watched the reaction on various telegram channels. i am
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subscribed to here quite from very patriotic to quite as if they say not patriotic. you are absolutely correct. speak in a programmatic way of reaction, very negative about our telegrams is taken with hostility. why is this happening? because no one is ready to fail absolutely everything. well, everything, here you can explain. well, everything that it touches is destroyed, and in addition, in ukraine, the supporters of his party themselves are pro-russian activists. they accuse him of wild corruption. he stole all the money that was given to him here in russia, he deceived the russian leadership. he made him mislead and so on. why was he exchanged? i can also explain, because this is the person who is associated. eh, here we are in russia and all over the world in general, as a person who is connected by personal ties with the president of russia if he were to be cut off his head in public in ukraine. it would be a certain loss of prestige here for russia . come on, for the sake of exchanged, but put him again at the head of some party. give him people's money. well, everything will end exactly what i wanted to explain everything, as always. i want to explain . the fact is that many people in ukraine, including even his party comrades, call him
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its now a political bastard, like a political ah i will explain the reasons. eh, it has already been said here that, if i, unfortunately, i cannot name the figure according to russian criminal law, but the amount of money that has been spent on helping medvedchuk over the past eight years. well, with this money you can arm yourself with this. i'm not slandering the armed forces. no, this is not the russian federation to go out. tell me it can be found. most. the main thing is that it was also mentioned here. he really last six months. before the one you got arrested, right? he hung noodles on his ears every week in moscow and through our embassy, which he watched, if you saw all this, you heard that the russian army is really expected in ukraine, that a million people will take to the streets and so on , yes, when they arrested him, he sat in prison that he did every week wrote
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notes to release me at any cost. sorry , now the sbu is ready to publish. uh, this is the very recording of his interrogations, then there will be a completely different article funny completely different article second, that is, and have fun with such a person. i understand it's new. yes, you can still i'm not even going to play a little bit, somehow. yes, of course, and the detention of medvedchuk and the publication of interrogations is associated in ukraine with only one, if zelensky needs to wet poroshenko, because all the accusations against medvedchuk that were put forward within ukraine were in conjunction with poroshenko, it was necessary to lower his rating when this was no longer necessary due to martial law, ukraine no longer needed to keep medvedchuk, as for this one, yes. i will explain to you why i had an entry into the phrase one about the fact that he doubts the authorship. to be honest, i'm not interested at all. this
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means that there zelensky is intriguing against the bastard or against poroshenko or poroshenko against zelensky and so on and so forth. this means that what i read that it was not viktor medvedchuk who wrote the article here at all . and people wrote. i won't name names because i don't have proof. and let's say this. uh, quite high-ranking our officials who some time ago they were responsible for the ukrainian direction. recognizable style, they wrote this article in order to try to explain to vladimir putin that not everything is lost . you see. wait, igor sergeevich, how do you like this version that this is actually our story and this article is intended for us. well, the first time, first of all, to the kremlin, you know, i agree with your version, but how would the ears stick out stick out, yes
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stick out. well, again, not caught, not a thief, and here something to prove. we can not. i would like to talk about something else. hmm, here, uh, ivan spoke about the fact that in the whole spectrum, negative feedback is negative. yes, yes, yes, putting it mildly, but i would like to draw attention to one more feature, not just a negative one, but everything is gone medvedchuk pulled it out, which means putin is abandoning his goals , we are creating another ukraine for which we shed blood, and so on and so forth for this audience. i would like to turn to stop and constantly, uh, raise a wave that everything is gone. well the way the same people in a different way always said somewhere. he at least once said that he was going to liquidate ukraine no. no, there was not even a word about the action. quite right,
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on the other hand. he clearly and clearly said that in all the liberated territories, the people themselves will decide whether they will be part of russia. lavrov , in my opinion, said that the current government , uh, should be the current government, i say. it comes true, it comes true, we freed two areas, on these two in these two areas. there have been referendums. and these regions, by the will of the people, entered russia to assume that something else would be the creative regions. it's just sips like going back to this article. you see an opportunity, but the creation of some kind of relatively speaking, i don’t even know how to put it from the article to some specific actions. yes , that's what on the territory of ukraine is not on the liberated territories, but on those that some one will appear there. i don’t know some kind of state formation of a quasi-state, but which one will be somehow hmm loyal to
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us to treat. it's very difficult for me. i do n't understand here and i can't imagine how i absolutely don't believe it. and i want to say that these are the words that now wait, who put it there, who was not afraid of the world should hear such people. they are there. these people who eat these people are not people, but in their own, please. i want to say if we move on to the practical area. this appearance of medvedovichuk will have a certain meaning only in one case, if the government of ukraine in exile is really created. and if anyone plays it, wait, wait shit. and if anything, the most important thing is that the government will be recognized by russia. this is completely different. situation mr. medvedchuk will work out everything that
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was invested in him. and everything else that a wave will rise there, i do not believe. to you. will there be such people, besides medvedchuk, who will be ready to support all this, because if you look at those politicians who used to be called pro-russian in ukraine, then as soon as all their pro-russianness began, they immediately washed away and then they force, uh, ask questions . how much it was russian in general was real incomprehensible. on the eve of this business, the ukrainian edition of the columnist demanded that an investigation be launched against medvedchuk's former associates in opposition to yuriy boyko and sergei lyovochkin publications. they were called traitors who, for an unclear reason, continue to sit in the rada, while they themselves are waiting for russia's re-offensive in the hope of taking it. the revenge, where the journalists saw the evil, is not clear at first a special operation. boyko supports everything up to the ban on russian music and even for depriving medvedchuk of his deputy chair, to be honest, i'm not up to it now. right
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now, the main thing is for the country to preserve, so that we endure, so that we put it away with politics. we will figure it out moreover, she herself at psg, she was viable even before the choice before, closing, because no decisions could be made by another bright representative of the opposition, alexander fork , headed the defense headquarters. krivoy rog, the no less famous ex-governor of the kharkiv region , mikhail dobkin, became a star of the armed forces, going to the front in camouflage and a cap with flag, forbidden in our upa. and now, having received the deacon himself , mikhail markovich drowns for the autocephaly of the ukrainian church. the committee for the salvation of ukraine of ex-prime minister mykola azarov and the former deputy of the rada volodymyr oleinik in 2015, at the big presentation at the moscow hotel
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ukraine, they promised that they could put things in order in our common home to defeat the nazis and bring a new president to power. the truth quickly became clear that the plan of the shadow government was only to wait until those disappointed by the kiev regime ukrainians will call them to the kingdom. now in africa you will not find a single country , not a single country where the life expectancy of men was 63 years. and, of course, against this background, against this background, many people remember. oh, they say, yes, he says, here we were arguing then, that there is sometimes a mistake in the ukrainian sea, but now we understand that the government was fine. yes, there were problems, but maybe they lived, and now we are surviving and dying. this is the opinion that alexandrovich has, can all these people be called truly pro-russian and can whether to name them? well, in fact, the culprits of what we have now, because these people
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obviously from the high stands said that they could they are ready. here they convinced people of this , including people in moscow outside the last offices. well, in the end, they promised, you know, maybe i’ll open your eyes to someone, but for someone i’ll say banalities, but in ukraine since 2014, in principle, there hasn’t been a single political one before. i mean the parliamentary parliamentary level of the pro-russian political force, because if we look. were about european pro-nato, yes, that is, they clearly articulated their goal of joining nato, joining the eu was at least one political force that led our goal of joining a union state with russia, establish relations with russia, they were against nato, but this was not about russian power pro-russian force. that's medvedchuk's big problem . that is, if you listen to what he said in the fourth year in the twelfth twenty-second, now he says, he says the same things. well, he has a negative trait. i don't know talent. there, maybe he gathered these opportunists around him. and these opportunists cut off everything so that
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individual people appeared on his television for his team, if medvedchuk gathered united people around him, they are all that, perhaps in ukraine everything would go well and no government of knowledge would work. no, look at the government. that's why everyone thinks, well, or understood the words of medvedchuk, and i'll say a little different thing, that the government of knowledge. this is russia. now it will liberate it all, create some kind of neutral ukraine. medvedchuk will be with this government. yes , it's ridiculous, of course, no neutral ukraine can exist. i’ll just remind you how zaporozhye and kherson regions began from the moment they were liberated and until the moment a referendum was held, they became subjects of russia, that is, there the temporary administration was headed by citizens of ukraine, yes, that is, well, local people, who tried to restore order to maintain civilian life. so. that's when russia doesn't even say eat. that's when russia will be liberated, conditionally speaking, even, for example, ukraine and until the moment when referendums are held. someone has to establish constitutional order to support
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life. these people will come in handy, and then it will all become dictated by russia, then it makes no sense, absolutely now there are some pro-russian politicians that we can rely on in ukraine or they become pro-russian only like when it was said, when there is, this is between another article give, well actually. ay 90% i agree with what was said here it was the most amazing. yes, the idea was expressed today, maxim, who said that this is ukraine. and here i can add something. i believe that the article is actually written for one person. we all know the name of this person, and from this point of view, it is not by chance that this article was published in izvestia. but what difference does it make that this person, whom you are hinting at so subtly, reads only the news, in general, as far as i know, this person has his favorite
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newspaper. komsomolskaya pravda, his favorite newspaper. that is all, but i think so and so, means an anniversary, and from the point of view of this anniversary it is necessary to explain. why did it turn out the way it did. and that’s why they didn’t come out with handbrakes and loaves, and that’s why it didn’t work out, uh, what he was counting on, what this article explains this article explains what is, nevertheless, in the deep, underground and in the depths of the soul of ukrainians there is a craving for a common the soviet past and the russian world, but this depth of the soul is very strongly suppressed, because as soon as this depth of the soul comes out of the subconscious and takes on some kind of political immediately, it means that a blow with a club flies to the head
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. that's all about believing in it. it 's very suppressed. so you believe in it, that there is nothing in the depths of the siberian russians for me. and if there was something, then nothing is left for a long time. and besides hatred for russia there is nothing there, but i'm with him by no means. excuse me , you can’t follow the advice, which in this article is generally following the advice of a medic, and the political ukrainian migration that came here after the crimea, uh, i would say to follow very carefully some political errors. here we have today here in russia a certain number of people who arrived back then, and also occupy positions in vacated activations, as he had 33 advisers yes, yes, yes, yes, he
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did something bad here, no one understands anything bad, anything at all is difficult. you have already reached the point that you read patriotic publications, this too. yes? you are this, yes. so i won't be surprised if they form an alternative government of knowledge. that's kind of like almost a claim. well maybe not yours address, but i’m already tired of listening to water in general, this is it, kiev in 3 days and they will be met there with flowers. i'll just remind you this was voiced by nedvichuk. this is actually information that the americans abandoned. you remember how it all began. this is an american thesis. must be nice. no need for the americans to start saying that then. how many times have i spoken andrey vladimirovich quietly. this was when a special military operation had already begun and the americans were gone for several days, but here we are talking about the fact that when, in fact, for years
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they said that ukraine is just waiting, when the deliverance from the nazi regime comes. to me, putin in the form once again i say, do not underestimate not the work. the special services of the inability to receive information telling that medvedchuk told someone something there believed him and went to the ukrainian ones. wait for the main one, you don’t notice a little now, because here the gentleman is practically. come on, i'm the main thesis that i would like to study. since what year are you in russia and on our different talk shows, come in different in fact, the fourteenth of the fourteenth year. you yourself have never once said on the air that people in ukraine are tired of this nazi regime. and now you just need to somehow help them a little and they themselves this regime. you have never heard such a thesis. no, i spoke about the need to create a political movement within ukraine that would represent the interests, but by the way, i never said that it should be a
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pro-russian party. i think it's very stupid, you know, in fact, if we are talking about an independent state should not be pro-russian or european parties. this is actually a big stupidity, and it should be about the ukrainian party. and by the way, to say, if you don’t consider it as one, it was ukraine can exist only inside. e russia of the conflict, that russia never thought that a political force could appear in ukraine that would make a decision to the detriment of its own country , and such a political force appeared in ukraine , these are nationalists. this is maidan, and even with all the ensuing consequences that decision that was contrary to the interests of an independent sovereign state. they are actually. let's try to reset. eh, to go back a little, that means alexander nikolaevich as a person well known to us for his cynical approach to life. but in general, it says that the political
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migration is ukrainian, which was forced to come here, fleeing there from the fourteenth or fifteenth year. and in general, for chatting. everything, it's like a story. ugh, i submitted it. maybe here is some very tangibility tangible yes in what happened here in this waiting for towels and karavaev means that you have not answered this question a little now. so we left this topic. let's take maksim anatolyevich, who has been following the ukrainians who moved there for a long time, but the state instinct worked for this program. yes, you didn’t call them for several years, you left the ukrainian topic, because it was they who we have andrey vladimirovich, i agree , brought discord. this idea was inspired into our minds, into our analytical layouts, and spiridon did not did, really. of the people who moved from ukraine, i want to say he will move. well, perhaps not the most adequate position. so he did not say this, but many others on different broadcasts really
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put this thought into e. at the beginning in the minds of viewers, and then you unfortunately, some people taking you want to say that then this article is an attempt. a revenge of such a kind, that is, once again try all this in ours. yes, and medvedchuk. here i will absolutely support you. i read her carefully in style. excuse me, medvedchuk, i participated on the air of personality. ah. asked him a question. i heard his answers, but he speaks competently, but he speaks russian, firstly, he can’t juggle language like that, he wrote it, of course, a professional writer. okay let's turned style. we will know. i just want to say, maybe some kind of sublime tok-e, after all, exactly a year ago. i was in kiev just at the end of january, met with everyone at various levels, and even then it was clear. well, it doesn't matter, uh, clearly in january
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this year became what pro-russian force, no longer, absolutely everywhere. that there were even in december there were still illusions in january already clearly the most important thing today is different. unfortunately, as a result of now we have got ukraine really complete anti-russia, and unfortunately, we should expect very unpleasant things, that as our troops move deep into ukraine, understand that in addition to military resistance, we will also receive limited citizenship. he says that in the political states that the promotion of ours in the group of ukraine will be andrew ivanovich for the first time with this. so the owner agreed. no i i'm talking about what was said about something else. no , she will attack us. well, he never said we won't win. no, he says, let's take a break now, then maybe some other people will have a little scouts. a real tradesman knocking off a
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already adopted all the laws necessary to start entry process. the first preliminary talks are scheduled for february 3 in kiev, waiting for guests from brussels, charles michele ursula fonderlei, as well as 15 out of 27 european commissioners. the ukrainian foreign ministry claims that it will be about steps to integrate the ukrainian economy into the eu market, but for the sake of the supreme, they boast that thanks to pressure from kiev , the europeans agreed to postpone the substantive discussion from autumn 2023 to spring. i have insider information from brussels right away, where i am now, that uh 3 february. ah, it will be declared that these elections, and these criteria will be carried over to the spring by our authorities. yes, yes. so to say, yes, we don't have time for, uh, our colleague of international partners, the european union. wait for what
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borders ukraine has gathered in europe it is not yet clear. this is under discussion, but in the history of brussels there has already been a case when a state from a disputed territory became a member of the community, we are talking about cyprus, which joined the eu in 2004, despite the fact that part of the island is de facto occupied by turkey and this master needs to be clarified , that is, you understand, this should be the border up to 24 e february, or is it completely, where are the docked wings? and the donbass, uh, i think, the question here is, in general, that this war simply stops. uh, and uh, there is already this position of ukraine as ukraine didit. uh, in general, this strategy is the strategy of the world and it is the third uh, february, the president will. uh, how to e this position, uh, how to highlight, and i think that it will be
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clear there already on the third of february that after all, what are the conditions in brussels, in turn, that an active military conflict will become an obstacle to of ukraine's accession, but at the same time, the european commission is talking about some immediate steps that need to be taken on the issue of ukraine's accession to the eu, vanessa, we must understand that if the eu talks about the possibility of ukraine's accession, it means that the eu is embarking on a new course. and this should be accepted by all members. block, as well as in the case of a large-scale expansion in 2004. it will change the nature of the european union in a different way. we must show ukraine what is on our side. it's not just words and take immediate steps to bring ukraine closer so bohdan is just really some kind of eu new deal well, obviously yes, but i don't believe it. it's all the same to ukraine's accession but to the european union right now the point is that there is still a very, very big difference between ukraine and cyprus. cyprus joined eu a after decades of
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truce with no fighting . yes, there was a line of demarcation with the turkish republic of northern cyprus, but, nevertheless , fighting. there a long time ago they didn’t go any more. in addition, cyprus is also a territory that is occupied not only by turkey but also by great britain. approximately 10% is a british military base on the territory of cyprus. i believe that it is now in the process of hostilities. it seems to me that all these mechanisms can simply be aimed at providing assistance from the eu to ukraine in various financial, economic, military, and so on, without this, this assistance cannot be obtained. well , maybe it's the expansion of new arrangements. the eu is still a very designed mechanism and they can really include ukraine in the composition only if suddenly ukraine is divided, i don’t know, there will be russian tanks, as they said here under the jetometer there will be a line of demarcation. and in the hostilities , some kind of truce will be reached, under what conditions and then the remnants of ukraine yes , they can be accepted into the european union, i didn’t quite understand
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what you know, i have repeatedly said in this studio that hmm, the prospects for joining the european union are real and the european union will take ukraine its ranks literally 5 minutes before the collapse of the kiev regime. that's when it will be done, and the strongest pressure will be exerted by the united states, the european union and britain only in this case no one russia will occupy the territory of the european union in order to permanently make our relationship. these are the ones who want to now by no means, because now we need to invest additional funds in the social sector and so on , they support them economically, the military, they support them, and this is enough for now and the kiev regime is fighting. but the european union is not at war, they are not going to go to the battlefield themselves. if now they are becoming members of the european union, then the
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european union should go and send its soldiers. but when it’s february 3rd, they all say it’s highlighted there, what’s happening for some reason, such support comes on the third or there’s no point in guessing the fifth, but if they go there in kiev with the whole crowd, then they er what we 're talking about now. quite right. remember when they came and gave the nomination for a member. uh, exactly, when all this power was on the verge of kiev at that very time in order to to support ukraine accept the candidate. against all predictions. yes, they will give it, but they won’t accept it, as it were, well, or, in my opinion, not now in five minutes. let's not agree on the third number, but will be discussed. the chicken scheme for the admission of ukraine to the european union is now completing its work within the framework of the european union in
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brussels, which at this stage has not yet completed a document, but which legally justifies the possibility of admitting ukraine to the european union within the borders of 1991. quite right. and it will be done so technically we're talking now about, uh, the beginning. wait. what do you mean, this will be done, that is, it will be, uh, ukraine is registered as a member of the european union, and we recognize it as a border. yes. such quite right depending on where the real game will be absolutely absolutely when you confirm what i said it was about january. ah, the final intro. january 19, 2024 , so far. about this, i don’t really understand the meaning then, if there are two 2024 years, there is a little bit of the fourth year left. the city surrendered in a year, in a year, what will ukraine be, yes, there, yes, we will record, we will record
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, please wait. i'm not very third part. she won't be a member. bashkiria will be different, please, yes, so i don’t really understand one point, if you e draw up. membership in your organization of the state with the borders of which today is very clear. i just heard you had a line. you said that the european union would have to go into battle. that is, does this mean that then the european union will be forced or is there obliged to really restore the borders of ukraine as they were? in 1991, we flew we are talking about international legislation, if we are talking about international incomprehensibly giving, there are internationally recognized borders of ukraine - these are the borders of the ninety- first year. there are no questions at all and no reservations. that is, if ukraine is accepted by the european union, then this is only a
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border, 91, what will they do, the second we demand. now let's go eat something else there. and it doesn't matter who will give them these borders to engage in hostilities. no wonder the poles are training for the ukrainian border of their armed forces. not in vain, it is through poland that america supplies heavy armor to a technician. it is not for nothing that ukraine has changed its legislation right now. she allowed representatives of foreign states to serve in her army, that is, all this and other europeans are ready to enter this conflict on their own for a second. i didn’t agree for the sake of the borders of ukraine in the ninety-first year or for the sake of something else, firstly, the owner is precisely, but these are not the borders of ukraine in the ninety-first year, two options, as they say in israel, the first option, either they help ukraine to repel russian troops and move them back close to russia or ukraine will be left without weapons. it will be hard for her and
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these missiles will be increasingly poisonous to the territory of poland and so on. that is, they have a very difficult choice, and therefore the choice of the border of alexander nikolayevich of ukraine than on their own is the same obvious thing. i think that the european union will not fight directly with anyone. but the admission of ukraine to the european union, if any, will be put before russia enough. here's january next year. it agree with this time. yes i i’ll take advantage of the reputation of a cynical person and say that we’ll see who and in what capacity will live until january 24. that's it. but uh, we'll get to brussels. that 's a big question. maybe you re-read it, in my opinion, maybe you will reach brussels, maybe not. you and i will move only in the bank. i say again that
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nostradamus normally cannot be a political scientist. here's but the thing is, uh, it means it exists, first of all, how the baltic countries for half a century, uh, were considered occupied. nobody acknowledged this. yes yes, in the same way, if a line of demarcation is established here, then it will exist for quite a long time, and rather difficult tasks will be set before russian foreign policy, because it will no longer be the liberation of ukraine from ukraine itself. but, and this will already be a certain conflict maybe cold, most likely cold. uh-huh we have the european union and, accordingly, with the euro-atlantic mm, because here the question of nato arises, uh, well, this is something that you will argue somewhere or not, but i will say absolutely clearly about it, of course to
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january 1st, 2001 january 31st. yes, next year ukraine is a member of the eu - whether or not, yes, the thirty-first of january. just write down on january 1, 24, ukraine should or should not be in the european union, i will not break everything. yes, of course, it will be earlier, that is, only a double rate. i, of course, do not have the same level of contacts as andrei vladimirovich has with leaders. i'm just with smart people at a slightly lower level, but in general, this is the resistance to this pressure from ukraine. as it was rightly said in strangers, this is a girl, and the deputy is glad in russian, those who spoke said that our pressure is hard to resist, but still, in old europe, people are sane. they understand that this is simply a disaster for the entire european project as it was intended. if ukraine in its current form
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old songs about the main thing of the last lenin - melitopol is it necessary to return soviet names to the streets of new regions, maybe it may or may not be necessary what is expected in the new territories from russia in ukraine by the older generation, perhaps somewhere it has soviet reflexes. and what image of the future did the trp special operations designate for russia in three letters, the meaning of which an adult resident of our country knows about it right now. it becomes clear. we continue. now let's move on to the liberated territories, now to the new russian territories, where such a process of restoring historical justice is going on, let's call it very actively are being renamed. ah, i've
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renamed my site here. well, it was as if history was forced, and earlier he wrote to me with an address in latin and a domain. right now, andrey norkin.rf, everything is written in russian. here on this site you can see pieces from our program, some interesting practice books to buy. there you can find out about concerts and so on, but this is it, yes. well, i renamed and renamed. in general, in principle, as if no uh secret meaning. not here, import substitution was called, in principle, yes, in basically changed. that's right right. ah. and what is happening now why does it cause some? not understanding, but in settlements. now let's start from the zaporozhye region, and the settlements, uh, that were liberated, and our armed forces are now changing the name, which, well, toponyms
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were under ukraine a. as i understand it, this can probably be said as a trend , yes, the toponymy of the soviet period is returning yes. that is, this is our soviet, as it were, common past before where is communion. here, perhaps, this is an attempt to play on what once united us. ah, but some see that this is how vanya now used the word where communization, which was e. well, now then it turns out that communization, where is communization, that is, we are returning it back. here are some signs of our not quite communist past. in general, there really is something to discuss and argue. let's see our first material. in zaporozhye, they began to restore the name that the streets had before 2014 is being this is to preserve the history of the region and restore justice, but it sometimes turns out rather clumsily with a bias towards the soviet
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past, so tavricheskaya street became komsomolskaya patriotic, they renamed the street 40 years of october and the holy intercession turned into the street of the fiftieth anniversary of soviet power. the ukrainian press criticized the renaming. moscow today does not offer ukraine a single positive political perspective, and therefore they are restoring monuments to lenin with might and main, returning red flags. and of course however, where without repressions everything in the style of dictatorial russia in russia, these changes were also perceived ambiguously. in russian telegram channels, they write the history of the soviet union, of course, it is important, but you should not reduce the millennium period only to the vkpb. in addition, a dispute arose on the network about is it worth it to officially return bakhmut, the soviet name, artyomovsk bakhmut was founded in 1571 by the russian tsar ivan the terrible on the southern frontier of the young russian state bakhmudskaya, the watchman was called a fortress,
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then a solid sloboda grew around the fortress was built under peter the great as a whole. this is the heroic russian antiquity. it 's better to call it, because people who live there call and don't call it as it is unpleasant for them. they are uncomfortable with the renaming of artyomovsk into bakhmut, which happened immediately after 2014, as a symbol of hysterical decommunization. and in general, everything that happened to them in 2014. at least, this is not how the locals explained it. i would respect them for the restoration of soviet monuments, in the liberated territories it can be explained by an attempt by the local population to show a fig the kiev regime in november last year, the monument to lenin returned to its place , which in 2015 was demolished by the kiev authorities. the monument returned in its original form. only the pedestal was updated, and a year earlier, ukrainian bloggers discovered another preserved monument to the leader on the territory of an abandoned motor plant. the last lenin of melitopol survived
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the noxification guys ulyanov vladimir ilyich the lower platform of the motor plant of the nevsky union so now he is pavlovich how do you perceive this as such a mistake when renamed decommunization. the decision was made at the level of the kiev verkhovna rada without taking into account the opinions of the inhabitants of these regions in general. i think it would be a big mistake. if moscow determines whether it will be bakhmut or artyom, moscow in this situation is closer to the position of simonyan, who says that we must still listen to the opinion of the people who live there, of course, taking into account the entire period of the historical past, not only be limited, for example, to the soviet period, but there definitely should not be a place, nor a nazi collaborator a criminal is good, but first the city must be freed. and now we are talking about those settlements that have already been liberated.
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well, and there you see, it is returning so actively, well, obviously from the soviet from such a communist one. so i said that this is perhaps an attempt to play on the fact that we were once united, i lived all my life in the donbas yes, i lived all my life in luhansk, i want to tell you, there are a lot of people who live there, not that very many the vast majority of us. it’s just that many people cannot understand, because donbass was one of the most successful soviet projects. yes, it was a period of industrialization, people from all over the soviet union came there, built their families, built housing estates. this is the period that is for them in their lives. it was the most favorable, the very thing about which you always want a happy happy. yes, that's why people are nostalgic about that period. it is absolutely normal for a generation of these people to live now and not listen, not heed, as opinion. i don't know, maybe in some 50-60 years. there will be a new generation
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people, i do not know, but today, of course, the relationship to the soviet past. they absolutely explain it. for 19 years, they listened to people's opinions when they discussed about voykovskaya whether to rename it or not? as a result, people told us so it's more familiar to leave it as it is, despite the fact that you are your proposal then my proposal. no, it's like a question without an answer about voikovskaya lives. all this. the main thing is that, in order to already be determined, what should be called, the city, the street, and so on. now just goes not rare nizatsiya. now there is just a return of those names that were before the arrival of the nazis, everything just happened there, that yes, they turn out that the soviet names will be chosen, because they were simply more on the lips of people until now due to the fact that they are busy with what -something else will not go into the fact that this street was called the holy intercession street for 300 years, yes, but for a much smaller amount of time it would be different for them to live there. here at first it is necessary from kiev and they tell them. when should they be called. is it to
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repeat, or something, we will come to eat, who wants such supporters. it seems to me that we are the ones who say that civilians should not be questioned. how to call bakhmut? because ivan very correctly cited this example now, in order to make a decision, you must first hold a public discussion, talk in general , remember to grant, and then cut, because i vote. i think let's do it now . should we make a commercial break with the powers of the local authorities, but first, knowledge first of the culture about what is happening, and then the decision, because in in the case of voikovskaya well, i am absolutely convinced that right now people are asking what this person did in history, in general, you know how his role was in uh, russian history. i think that very few of you want to
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say just wanted to pay attention to this. first, i want to correct you. you have lived all your life not in lugansk you have lived all your life teddying to play. sorry when the stirrer was born , it seems yes, of course, the solidarity, which is now taken to pronounce it, generally got beyond the line. no, you're somehow not like on map, yes, that is, it is, well, generally outside. the main thing is that i know this, it means that the question is something else. you understand everything correctly, he says, it is up to local residents to decide, but the question is the question is that work with society. this is very serious work. and now what is happening there is that it’s all very simple to understand, all the bureaucrats are following the path, as always, they always follow the path of least resistance in a different way. what is the easiest thing to do, unlike an official from nikolai, because he needs to discuss first so official. why was the task given? what is it, what should be done? just cancel everything, fuck it. that's it, we change the street from here. uh, not a fallow land, that it
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naturally needs to change its name, yes, there is such a sane center on the street. excuse me, please, now for a second, then, wait, i'm working, why in the crimea why in the crimea, after the fourteenth year, no one really changed anything, as far as i remember, and still i come there every year. there, i see a few, these very street names are signs in ukrainian and russian, and sometimes just only in ukrainian and no one touches them. first, of course, as simonyan absolutely rightly said , everything is great, there is a request, but this request can be regulated, that is, look , there are streets that have been renamed. here they are also suggesting other crimeans here. they say that crimea is still being changed. yes, bandera street, that's all. well, this one, you bastard. is it necessary to leave these? yes, by no means, but that's it, it's all in a crowd, it's simple, but you need to think sometimes you need to think, because maybe there will always be truth. here i am actually wait, i actually propose
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to do this, because here you are saying, it 's just yes, and i'm talking about the fact that there is again we are not only there about this. there is a definite request. that's why i'm just asking a certain question first of all, the soviet and our soviet history. and this may well be not simple, but complex people thought and are guided by what people have in their heads, and in the people’s heads who live there, this request is precisely on some of ours, that is, already with an audience for advice. do you know that there is such a request in they do it. historically, donbass was one of the most soviet regions of ukraine after the collapse of the soviet union donbass became the first region to restore the activities of the communist party until 2004 , the majority of the inhabitants of the region voted for the communists, who in their eyes personified the glorious, but lost soviet past of the donbass industry, and in in 2014, not a single candidate from pro-western parties passed to the regional councils of donbass, and the new ukrainian government did not
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hesitate to hate this sovietness, but it sounded like a generation husband, and may there is an older generation in ukraine, perhaps somewhere there are soviet reflexes. and somewhere. we may have to cut this thread for a long time, but the very fact that ukrainians carried out three socio-psychological revolutions at the end of the 20th and the beginning of the 21st century, the revolution on the border of the orange revolution and the revolution of dignity. this is a sign that we are the beloved people of freedom, and we are ready to return to the european bosom without a return . of the maidan civilization, anti-russian sentiments in the donbass did not support too little they had crossings by zapadentsy then sociological data pointed to the disunity of the people of donbass with the regions of ukraine in 2007, half of the inhabitants of luhansk have never been to the western part of ukraine, as well as the majority of residents. lvova had never been to the donbass in kiev, then they saw that the donbass was a thorn in the eye of ukraine due to the dominance of musovich, a significant part of the inhabitants of the donbass
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still remain carriers of the soviet identity, obviously it happened due to historical reasons, this is an industrial region, which received a lot of attention it was there that the soviet authorities experimented with the creation of the soviet man. homassoveticus. achieved the greatest success, donbass became not just an island of khoma sovieticus, but probably the core. in soviet times, mines and factories contributed to the migration of labor from all over the country to the donbass, and the inhabitants of the region, accustomed to the russian language , perceived the attempts of the kiev authorities to film adaptation with hostility . i was born in the donbass, i am a bearer of russian culture. when you tell me i will decide, and i will decide the steering felt in the fourteenth year. i have dudya said that the guys have a problem of infringement of the russian language. after that, i came to ukraine and everyone looked into my eyes and said. well, where these people infringe on you, they would never agree here, on the one hand. uh, they say hey, you quickly switch
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everything to ukrainian. this is akin to non -power forces, mikhail anatolyevich, is it fair to say that when we say that people in eastern ukraine or already in our regions are pro-russian, they are actually pro-soviet. i think, which is not entirely true, although there is some truth in this. and now the worst thing is, what is it? it will happen that at the level of this discussion, we will simply divide, there will be russian rights and patriots, russian left patriots and we will start yes, with god, when it comes, when we why doesn’t the earth begin to see through, between us, but i don’t know, that’s actually all this decommunization that has taken place in recent years. uh, first of all, of course, do ratifications. and even those demolitions, those monuments of the same lenin, this is not some kind of vladimir who was, uh, the leader of the bolsheviks and monuments to one of the leaders of our united state. this needs to be understood, but when we now return these lands, then, of
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course, it will be. uh, completely uh, wrong. yes, in my opinion, but return all the toponyms of the soviet era. here i agree with what is. uh, the public request for this is advice. the return of the soviet animal nostalgia. nostalgia for the youth of uh people uh, middle and older generation nostalgia for our pioneer childhood, because yes but uh in the senses that are invested here, of course same, here is the same karla lipnevtovsk. yeah, but it’s true that it was not renamed in the fourteenth year. and also in the ninety-first year, but for sure there were also people who were nostalgic for this time. no one really sincerely believed that we were carla lik no one solidarity i and here is the question. here you agree that in part that this is such a request, as it were, but there is, but, but i don’t think that the public opinion poll is the key to resolving issues on it
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, the same adam, when on real it’s animals, he is unlikely whether conducted a survey between those who are animal well very animalistic. i compared i compared the inhabitants of donbass with adam you said ivan he he asked a question. are you sure that the residents of donbass are pro-russian, do they know the pro-soviet ones? what is she about, what is he right about, that the residents of donbass have experience of living together with russia within the framework of the soviet union , this is how mikhail yuryevich tells you from his point of view. it's called the nostalgia of youth you. sami speak the experience of living together in the framework of already modern russia here it is now only being acquired, that very important moment was said, literally 5 seconds. if you don't mind, yes, it really did take place, not a virgin, but de-rutification and as a result
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, a very interesting situation arose when the return, when renaming, artemovsk in the ancient russian name bach that was exactly de-russification, surprising to many. this is not strongly permanent, does this mean that our common soviet past it may be more even unifying than the language. vladimir viktorovich, on the contrary, i can this story with soviet symbols, especially now in the east of ukraine very reminiscent of what happened in such a late soviet union with e attributes. e faith with the attributes of the christian faith when e then violence is emphasized by some huge pectoral cross in order to express an inner protest to what extent. come on, the bandits wore it, because it was a piece of gold on a gold chain, not a healthy piece of gold and called him. how do you forgive mikha anatolyevich there, what are you talking about, in any case, it was an attempt to state that i'm not
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like them, well, i'm not into these today. eh, for the same on this one. e is already a symbol on the cross. uh, ilya prusikin is skating in order to express his protest. that's where this discussion unfolds around soviet symbols. some of them are demolished in order to say fi e, to the recent common, while others are fighting for these symbols only in order to make videos in these respects. this is a kind of life position. i want to show it one way or another. yes, no, it will be clear, but express your protest and for there is nothing to protest. and if we support this, it will look at least strange, because now it is the authorities of these settlements, here, who are returning the old soviet names. what are they protesting against? they are in order to declare that we will no longer shoot the wrong ones. eh, who is embarrassed by one expression andreeva used often we already have it in the discourse of a public request, well,
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public requests - this request can be five percent of the most radicalized part more noisy, if you interview the residents, and of this or that city, and they will simply understand, how much it will cost, if the renaming is from the city budget, then you will see a public request, everyone will be against it. well, 95%, 5% of activists, of course, are for the same thing. we in ukraine passed, what do you think, the public request of all the inhabitants of kiev, e.g., bandera prostavich avenue, just this part of the activists who ruined their lives, and now they are so noisy here that they are starting to burn our lives. well, not much so far. turns out, actually. by the way , do you know about the mood in ukraine? now i remember, it was probably 19 years. ochakov nikolaev region, there is a nato base. i walked around the city and photographed right here the intersection, lenin street, engels street. maybe it was formally renamed, but it
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never occurred to anyone to change the signs. here in my phone i can show, then it means that they really have everything in ukraine. this is nostalgia for the soviet past. it is even stronger than in russia now. oh well except for the west, that's why, besides your koloma of people, the same is in nikolaev and water and so on. so, that's what is important to me, i can be, but now it sounds a little. this is bad. i ukraine is an absolutely alien camp. absolutely , and for 30 years i have gotten used to living separately from them; here is their nostalgia for the soviet past. god is with him or even with our new regions. i'm not used to it yet. so, well, as if they somehow want in their city. i understand this to return the soviet, for god's sake the main thing is that this fashion should not be transferred to the original part of russia here in moscow where on the site on the site of soviet nostalgia. you
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don't really want to have it with anyone in my city. wait, wait. that was the happiest period in the life of the soviet and what didn’t work out for you, or what? something that you really do not want something, again really no? i have the happiest period of me, uh, when the soviet union collapsed i was 25 years old. and in general, the most good period is the most beautiful girl. it's not because the soviet allies, it's not because these the times are now uh, watering something is not bad. so i do not renounce this so bogdanchik. there would be such a device, here is the measure of the psycho-emotional state of a soviet person. and modern man. so i looked, yes, there is no hospital thermometer. yes , judge the soviet past. wait now, we'll get to that. yes, absolutely not embarrassed to have your own opinion on this
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issue and even ignore the supposedly taking place, the public request public request is an illusion - it's a fiction. that's absolutely right here. maxim is so at it refers to simply impose their own ideology on me now. no. yes, i understand, you understand you, but do not orient yourself to him. i refer to the public request all the time. well, i am against soviet names. why precisely those names that well, because you understand, this is also a certain schizophrenia. here we are talking about the russian world on the one hand. uh-huh, on the other hand. we return the name of artyom that is, i 'll leave it. no, this is absolutely not the same. forgive the soviet project. soviet, this is just the opposite in relation to for the russian world, ukraine was created by lenin, the borders that we have now crossed and in which yanina here convinced that they would be recognized by the european union, this is also a soviet product ukrainization film adaptation, purely soviet policy. and which went in relation to the donbass throughout the entire period of the ussr therefore, if there really are some ideological bandera names in honor of bandera upa. yes, they need to be
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washed. you don't want to anyway. here is the answer. don't know or don't want to or ca n't when i say maybe it's us trying. uh, uh, get close, damn it, with those people who lived in soviet times, just like here we are in a country called the soviet union, we all remember it there, if we were good, even maxim anatolyevich, if we know how to get closer on the basis of a dead project, on the basis of carrion, longing for carrion. well, this project will be the same theft. if we unite in the royal, the empire fell - this is also a dead thing. this is what we will push donbass away from, by the way, the tsarist empire of nikolaev lived quietly . i'm sorry, i'll try to explain, here is the soviet union next to us, not next to us at all. bogdan just wait, here we are in the center of the body, the remains are very close here, literally there, to cross the street. and vdnh
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soviet time it was an exhibition of achievements of the national economy. yes, then the soviet union collapsed in our country and the all- russian exhibition center appeared on the site of the exhibition of achievements of the national economy, right? uh-huh, the all-russian exhibition center was even renamed, as far as i remember, the metro station is the vdnkh metro station here, but at this exhibition center itself, it means that there were no exhibitions in general , but there was such a huge one for the whole territory of vdnh trade pavilion, where they sold absolutely everything. that's just absolutely everything you needed. here and around, it means that it was so dense, which means, uh, a cloud of overcooked 10 times meat and butter, supposedly shish kebab. in general, it was impossible to go there, unless, of course, you were overwhelmed by the need to buy something when there was a shortage of time. years have passed and we are
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returning not only the old soviet name for the exhibition of achievements of the national economy, but we are returning absolutely this one, that’s the look, the whole reverse we we restore all the pavilions there, we find some kind of bas-reliefs with some hidden lenins, and almost stalins, and we repair the fountain. and in general, now everyone is talking about vdnkh. yes, there the film is the bright path of the stalinist empire style. blah blah blah everyone loves it. awesome, it means that you did wrong that we returned no such at least outwardly to the soviet they will come there and see the giant pavilion of ukraine and such a tiny pavilion of russia like this soviet power is here too. i am bogdanov, wait for bogdan confirm. this is how she treated my country more beautifully to the detriment of other republics, first of all, examples, how, it seems to me, for example, you are vdnkh, he shows here that yes, indeed, the return of some soviet names, including vdnkh, and bears on itself . it should not bear a destructive ideological
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load. there should not be any mentions of komsomol members in particular, there should be no renaming, streets that were svyato-pokrovskaya street, which after that became komsomolskaya proletarian street or some kind of harm with a voice mood you had an exhibition of the achievements of the road, probably stalin, that would be a completely different matter, and i hope you wouldn’t. hello, how can you separate this from one another naturally, because one should not assume that iosirionovich stalin created everything that they created people. then we will not say, stalin's amps, we will ban the expression save it. and firstly, once again, if the inhabitants of this street want the street to be called karla stick like this, and not the old pokrovskaya, this is their personal. is it true. let her called them did not have time to ask them then. do not have time to ask, we do not have to repeat. the error is now not asked, no one
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really, dear that thank you. we simply cancel those illegal renamings that ukraine did, as it will continue to be, just call it differently, but this is for the people we call this renaming this is excellent, where communization is. then, please, choose for yourself if you want your city to be like this, so you propose to rename an hour back, and then if necessary, rename it again, i already said 10 years will pass new generation. let's do it again. now let 's have a discussion, as niko laevich i am not to blame once again. i'm so worried that this is really a topic, please, the words are very hot, which means that loshars are jumping on everyone. i am calm, yes, and secondly, it is categorically wrong to oppose the soviet project to the russian project. the soviet project is exactly the same russian project of the
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soviet union of big russia, those who do it. they do not understand what the soviet union is, they do not understand that the soviet person was a russian person in the broadest sense . absolutely russian culturally. it seems to me that after all, the soviet era is both a russian person and an armenian person. they were all soviet people, but now we were, as they said, historical, damn it, the soviet people, as they said, yes, russian culturally . don't wait, you could have been ready, honestly, i just don't agree that the soviet project is a russian project. this means a lot about the fact that the russian project is an indigenization project. in the soviet e-e of man there were no only jewish people, jewish human. they have always been there, too, they lived some kind of wrong soviet, that is, no. well, of course it isn't. of course, of course the bolsheviks are safe. at first, they
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destroyed the russian republic, then they successfully destroyed it, the soviet union created by them themselves is generally amazing no one and everywhere the bolsheviks overthrew the russian republic, the countries have already lost. wait for the russian. the willing people raised the country there, please, so nikolaevich a little bit later, they drilled the russian republic let the bad one. let the weak, let everything, but at least no one disconnected from her. and they disconnected everything after okay, then they created the soviet union and destroyed it , who destroyed the external forces. come on, and who is the head of all the republics, a member of the central committee, a member of the politburo. uh, a candidate, but nationalists all have party cards and everything, what is a nationality is the same thing. you
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came here to ruin. here i have so many emotions. we just want to die the other day. let's ruin the country. that's what i found out. that's when the funeral was, that he died buried in switzerland. he will be there and lived, he i didn’t even know about it there, because, by the way, i have this, alexander, yes, yes, how they created it, and then ruined it all. let's take a break. and we just got a little fixated on, uh, just this story with the renaming of streets. but i think it goes much deeper than that. here, of course. in ada , the pro-stalin amp did not allow me to speak here, but i will. after a short break, a resident of krasnoyarsk voluntarily took over the daughter of his former mistress and is now raising her himself. i love children very much. i really wanted a daughter, but the girl's mother
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begs to return the daughter to her does not give. i don’t give a child to me. a child of 3 years old doesn’t let me see her, doesn’t take the tube from me and assures me that she gave birth to her from another man. at the same time she met with zhenya, she immediately saw that she looked like zhenya. however, relatives believe that someone else could be the father of the child. maria traded her body in krasnoyarsk does little sofia live with someone else's patronage of a man who does not give her mother. you informed andrei later that they were the biological father. i told him she said why he needed someone else's child, that he would live on borrowed money, he filed an element against me. you yourself wrote a settlement agreement that she wants to leave the child with me, i open the dna today 17:50 on ntv bessonov premiere today at 20:00 on ntv this season
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the daughter of a former mistress and is now raising her himself. i like children very much. i really wanted a daughter, but the girl's mother begs to return the daughter to her does not give. i don’t give a child to me. a child of 3 years old doesn’t let me see her, doesn’t take the phone from me and assures me that she gave birth to her generally from another man. at the same time she met with zhenya, she came to life with andrey, she immediately saw that she looked like a woman, however, relatives believe that someone else could be the father of the child. mother. you informed andrei later that he was not the biological father. i tell him why he needs someone else's child in order to live on her money. he filed for the elements against me. she herself wrote the settlement agreement that wants to leave the child with me i open the dna today 17:50 on ntv some kind of vladimir
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call we're getting two knee pads for the price of one right now. for only 999 rubles. call or order on our site leomax.ru, in addition to the trp, in addition to the return of vdnkh, a lot of things have returned from the soviet era to our daily lives. so is it good or bad. and how to use it? let's watch the next material you in early september. vladimir putin proposed to restore the movement of young naturalists yunatov, who were popular in the soviet mountains after the ninety-first, russia lost about a third of the yunat circles. now they are actively reviving earlier, the state duma decided to create the all-russian movement of youth children, which in the press immediately dubbed the new piania in 2014, a set of soviet trp standards returned to the school ready for work and defense gold silver bronze trp badges add points to the amount for the unified state examination when entering universities. sometimes it even
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becomes the basis for an advanced degree, and recently min pro you did not announce that the school curriculum will include lessons in playing bast shoes, and another initiative, mandatory research by the guest for food instead of those conditions introduced at the beginning of the 2000s, the so-called that in your time. this made it possible to greatly update the assortment of stores and, on the one hand, reduce the price, and on the other hand, make the products more diverse . a senator made a proposal to return exclusively to soviet guests at the end of last year. vladimir is round, but so far it is at the stage of discussion. although in st. petersburg they have already announced the opening of a chain of stores with goods from russian manufacturers. only in accordance with gost are iconic soviet brands revived at the end of september. the first store of photographic equipment zenit opened in gum and recently the brand of the legendary soviet sneakers was relaunched two balls. although not everyone knows that they were actually produced that way then, and now in china, manufacturers assure that shoes are created using 50-year-old technology, and
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this they say is a sign of quality. in the state duma , they are actively seeking the revival of artistic councils, like the old soviet times, in order to prevent provocations and sedition. in particular, state duma deputy yana lantratova insists on this, and deputy vitaly milonov proposed censoring children's toys so that they do not promote alien western values, by the way, after the adoption of amendments to propaganda law. many lgbt series and books have already been censored. so vladimir viktorovich, is everything soviet, everything bad or everything good, or what? as in general, there is no such concept in history at all and everything is good or everything is bad. this is history as it is. it's just that the fact that it is now actively appealing well testifies to only one thing. let's get that ok in the future, nothing's good. and i myself passed nothing bad badge. and where is he. by the way, why doesn't he flaunt his chest, wait a minute, well, he passed it for himself. well, in the sense of nothing
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i don't see the bad further gosts why well, the senator is round, i just want to remind our viewers. we remember he is a doctor by profession. well, because that's the limitation. it means the restrictions imposed on those who produce certain products from these europeans. now. let's ban blue cheese. so, because it doesn’t fit according to the guests, that is, with mold, so that the lord at one time on ford it’s clear i’m afraid it was good, but we had mold, but now a lot of new products have appeared, but in the maternity hospital we just do. let's introduce gost for passion fruit, they also want to use passion fruit. well, for example, i don’t really like to read that there is no way to offer something new in the future exactly, so why are they appealing? well , please, here they brought you passion fruit. you don’t know what it is at all or you don’t imagine it fresh or do you know who
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suggested, uh, revive the two ball brand? who are the gentlemen and make another popular brand among young people grand short well, that is, they also flirt with this, because it is used there or the zaporozhets brand itself flirting because it will be an important moment. will it be popular with young people that soviet brand okay? and how will this connect with young people? young people don't know anything about sneakers two balls. i can hardly imagine sneakers two balls. i was born in the soviet union did not have sneakers from the seventy-seventh year. such conversions. i had sneakers, chinese breakdowns, which they tried on on a cardboard. these were sneakers, they were very uncomfortable for young people. this is a mess. don’t get it, just vladimir ilyich leninsky soviet union of these for children modern something between the battle of kulikovo and the battle of borodino. that's what it is. this is the pioneer, then it's bad. eh, piano player i don't see any sense. well, there is no organization at all. and if we create
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a political organization for it, if it’s something for children, just to somehow organize it, there’s nothing wrong with it, it’s good, and the pioneers still like everything, but without an ideological e, i don’t order fleur’s ideologists there like. well, you know, first of all, i'd like to say that it's kind of russian sometimes. yes with soviet combined i don't know, cinema, literature. i don’t know about tvardovsky there, i’m not going to refuse there or say from shoukhov, yes, but what carries precisely the pure ideological charge of the komsomol pioneer, there and so on, of course, for me this is negative and completely. what 's wrong with pioneer? explain to me how it is, in addition to the ideology of helping others, they are still pioneer children. i was grandmothers translated through more expensive were a pioneer, it seems, of course, began to fight. for the cause, our anxious teachers drove us to moscow for one day, we went to the mausoleum as a temple. well, it will not be either, yes, and in the lenin museum which is now the museum of the patriotic war. we were welcomed by the pioneers. it is a pure geological
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organization. if you just want help, organize a scouting organization, please. not ideological, by the way, yes, any psychological can be a lot of military-patriotic clubs, who? why were military-patriotic clubs at churches banned, for example, there and so on, they were banned, they can’t be done by mikhalych russian emigrant philosophers. uh more twenties and thirties. e of the last century. they very clearly noticed that the soviet regime was taking, indeed, a lot from the old revolutionary one, the very same pioneers. yes, of course, fairy tales here and now, for example, there, how many of us are still post-soviet people, of course, i remember i don’t remember what was the revolution we remember what was there before the ninety-first year, most of us don’t remember it from living generations, and therefore, yes, we can take technologically methodologically all projects that were then something even aesthetic completely, because the aesthetics of the same stalinist vampire. it was definitely. imperial that this is only the other way around, stalinist, and the last time the conversation came up. i just stopped. let's
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return to this now in mihajlovic's important story, on the second of february. we have e 2023 the anniversary of the 80th anniversary of the end of the battle of stalingrad, and again they began to talk about the fact that stalingrad should be renamed not for some reason, but for memory. yes, there volgograd to return, there they are temporary for nine days in a year, and finally return. this is the very name here, this discussion has escalated, how it should be done, how much it should be done. how many in this ideology? well, let's do it differently. a couple of days ago, a video appeared on social networks where participants in a special military operation announced a long-overdue need to rename volgograd stalingrad, it is necessary to return the heroic name to our homeland, stalingrad is a symbol of the russian strength of courage courage and military prowess, our four righteous people fought near stalingrad there was no volgograd me and my brothers believe that the city of volgograd should be
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renamed, stalingrad during the year the name stalingrad volgograd is symbolically returned nine times on a significant date for the city. among them, february 2 is the day of the end of the battle of stalingrad. on may 9 and november 19 , the beginning of the defeat of the nazi troops near stalingrad, these days, road signs with the name of the city are changing, but simultaneously with these temporary renaming. there is a discussion about changing the name for good, at the end of december, the governor of the region. andrei bocharov said that the advice? renaming by veterans' requirement already exists and has begun active work, if in the opinion of our veteran community after a study of public opinion. uh, they will decide that yes, that such a number of people there, yes, support the issue of returning the name of stalingrad, then we will make a decision, which will be connected already with such an official, but official work on studying public opinion of the broad
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public opinion of the population. volgograd region, well, of course, volgograd, after the statements of the governor, enterprising residents they began to collect signatures under the friday against the return of the name stalingrad forever the main argument on the surface, to put it mildly, the ambiguity of stalin's personality and not all opinion polls. in recent years, it has been shown that most citizens will be happy with the renaming. only we must not forget the reasons for this opinion of many volgograd residents, if for more than 30 years they poured mud on the soviet union and our soviet history, if for decades the supporters of returning the name stalingrad to our city were silenced, then what we want to praise yegor. are you in in the previous part, when you talked about bakhmut, artyomovsk, you said that she should ask people. in general, as they say, so be it here. the same story, in your opinion, is equal. we must ask people, as they say, it will be so, or is there still some kind of ideological double bottom here. in this story, it means you always need to ask people, it is always
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necessary, but if you ask my opinion, there is certainly an ideology here, but it has absolutely nothing to do with communism and even aged stalingrad - this is more than stalin stalingrad is a world symbol, of course, it is a brand that is known all over the world for some reason in paris there is, in my opinion, stalingrad square yes, the stalingrad metro station does not care. they wanted to blockade leningrad against anti-communism - this is also a symbol. now i have explained. there is a difference between leningrad and stalingrad from a historical point of view, and from an image point of view, the city should be called by the name that carries the maximum meaning, under which it enters history and from this point of view practically no one in the world knows tsaritsyno , few people know now, volgograd, but stalingrad is a brand - this is a russian symbol absolutely right 700 m to the volga - this is a symbol of our fortitude, plus from the fact that how people wash to force them abroad,
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not only abroad , but also of russia itself, of course, and i say this again, if you like, even from a commercial point of view, stalingrad will earn more than volgograd, you spent the prime minister of leningrad here it is irrelevant. why? because both st. petersburg and leningrad are two names that in the morning equal historical meaning of the city of st. petersburg is a symbol of our greatness of our empire, st. petersburg and leningrad are two equivalent historical symbols. there will be a city called leningrad we will remember one period from st. petersburg will earn on the imperial period and so on. this is a rare case, a rare case in history, when a city has two historically equivalent names, therefore political and commercial. well, how nice wait how are you uh. see this right here you said you should always ask people. uh-huh this should be residents of the city of volgograd
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residents of the volgograd region residents of the russian federation accept residents of volgograd and probably volgograd. they're there in tyumen. it doesn't matter how, for example, the people of moscow should decide on the dzerzhinsky statue of taxes. the russian federation of those peoples who suffered lagged behind from what deportation, and now, do you really think that we now need to return stalin’s name in such a place and impose it on everyone and when difficult times await our country. and now we need to look additionally . and well, here is a moment, which is inter-ethnic friction efforts. ramzan kadyrov was asked how many of his relatives died there during the deportation from the ingush,
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which means residents of karachay-cherkessia, kabardino-balkaria from the crimean tatars who are now also our compatriots. no need to get into it for no reason, because then, uh, there will be so many consequences. you don't even think about them. all these stalinists keep international peace in mine. in the country of the russian federation does not like chechens not only between the parties. i will never provoke them out of nowhere and not only between provocations georgievich you know, you mentioned leningrad too why are you right when you say that this is also a brand? to be honest, i would be shocked when you started saying that leningrad stalingrad, you would also say that marco was a merchant, it would be generally wonderful that it turns out to be easier to make money on this, well, more cynicism. and here i am not difficult for you, but cynicism is not always untrue is not always untrue. well maybe it's not worth it to be personal, and even more so to horse tourists. yes,
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a great hero. i'm shocked. just such an offer to do something. eh, in our state. uh, it is very important for people tomorrow, for example, the day of the 80th anniversary of the breakthrough of the block for leningrad, based on the fact that vouchers to leningrad will sell well or badly. previously, it was in demand that they demanded i would not get out, they would not come to thump. and there is no such thing. yes, he has movement, so of course. uh, the idea, uh, is to rename volgograd in stalingrad, it is very vicious. and i am grateful to my colleagues, they just showed the petition of the volgograd apple who created the bird, do not rename it. i believe that a certain compromise has been reached so that when you come to vosstaniya square in st. petersburg you live in the hero city of leningrad yes, a certain preservation of historical memory, but in the city of st. petersburg. and if about everything, the region, in fact, is a different subject, but quickly
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remained. in the same place, leningrad remained sverdlovsk, but i want to say about all of our topic. what is the main problem? no need to discuss. that's good. god bad. ready well or badly bad and let’s get started on our own , they said that everything should always be discussed, it’s not necessary to discuss it separately in our program, because it seems important to discuss the whole complex, but the idea is, let’s return it as it was, but this is impossible. and therefore, the longer we live, based on the principle, let's return how it was invented by the president, the restorer of the organization yunatov let's urgently restore the organization didn't come up with this. this means that no recovery is needed. yes, so the idea to do as before is impossible. and the longer we stagnate and think, let's return as it was, the longer we are from the topic of preparing the country for the
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forties spoke a lot, many old place names in the same leningrad, the historical imperial were returned. and, of course, more important. uh, historical enlightenment a reminder of what was carefully what was good before the soviet period, so to speak, yes you can, but it will be a historical myth, but a historical myth. will he collapse sooner or later and do much more harm than he does? well, don’t, don’t, you can, but don’t bogdan anatolyevich and i think that it’s impossible, and precisely for this reason, because this dead one, which has long decayed precisely for this reason, more than half of the azov regiment banned in russia is made up of immigrants from russia russian because ukrainian nationalism they have something alive bielecki used to be supporters of the prosecution russia, therefore, the alternative here is either the soviet past, or the russian redent. unification of russian lands. vladimir viktorovich, you can and should use everything that unites, but here's what worries me, usually they start
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combing stalin or asking to bury lenin when you need to score some kind of negative background. here is something that seems to be brewing. of course, you can use it, but the main thing is that when there are fewer people who are nostalgic for the ussr due to objective reasons. all this is gone, the platform is not for unification, but for disconnections in our studio today talked a lot about what to ask people, we regularly do this in our program in telegram. today we decided to do the same. we will actually post there this story of ours about the renaming, and about the renaming of volgograd to stalingrad, a piece of our discussion, we will conduct a survey whether or not it is necessary to do this. now you have a qr-code . can you click? i think within there a few minutes. well, or maybe an hour, this one will just appear for sure and you will be able to express your opinion on what to vote stickers? use ours to use it all the time . here, and i then since we have commercial breaks. let me remind muscovites once again that tomorrow i invite you to the magnus services club. there are still a few tickets
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left there, a small hall, but on the fourth of february. i will be in the pskov house of officers at first there will be 18 hours, and in moscow tomorrow at 20:00. and the movement of yunatov nikolai grigorievich must be revived, because all sorts of false scientific conclusions begin to appear, it’s good to be a caterpillar. eat. eat. eat. eat. then you wrap yourself up like that. so sleep, sleep, sleep, woke up with a beauty. it was a meeting place that could not be changed. 14:00 will be nefir ntv all the best to you and goodbye.
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