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hello, this is the meeting place on ntv place, where everything becomes clear in the studio. i'm andrey norkin. my colleague is ivan trushkin. we are working live. from the moment we returned after the new year holidays , we discuss in almost every program. uh, well, i'll put it this way, the prospects for some negotiations to resolve the ukrainian crisis, including, if you remember, we even noted that, perhaps, for the first time materials appeared in our russian press. here are some thoughts on the subject. is there a way to organize this, but i mean, naturally, an article by viktor medvedchuk in the news. there were several events that happened yesterday, which i think. mm, and shed color on our position, firstly,

this is, uh, the annual press conference of the minister of foreign affairs. sergei lavrova mentioned this episode, just yesterday, alexander yuryevich, we will show it, we will show it. yes, and uh, of course, this is a performance. uh, vladimir putin yesterday putin during the whole day he took part in many events in st. petersburg, all of them were timed to coincide with the eightieth anniversary breaking the blockade of leningrad and when he communicated with citizens. naturally, the conversation turned to ukraine, and putin explained it several times. now i'll even just give you a quote again. we just gave it in our announcement. we are absolutely justified in saying that we are fighting him with the nazis, that is , this is it, and the word itself was a definition yesterday. e, putin consumed several times, in principle, but well, over the past year, we heard this word from him there in february, then a little later in november. but before that,

throughout all these long years, while there was a war in ukraine, the russian president did not allow himself such harsh formulations. well, putin is generally quite restrained in his official statements. i would like to understand, so if it suddenly started, this is the conversation about which we have been here for several days , about which we have been arguing, and yesterday’s statement of the president and the head of the ministry of foreign affairs during the peace talks. do they mean that we completely abandon even hypothetical events from the very idea, yes negotiations because we stop counting. uh, the current government in ukraine is legitimate here, after all, the most important snag, the fact that we recognized it legitimately back in the fourteenth year. let's listen to the president now, first on the basis of his statement, we'll talk, then we'll show excerpts from the press conference of the foreign ministers. we absolutely justifiably say that we are fighting it. well

, there is bandera. bander, who collaborated with hitler and shot the civilian population of him . so his henchmen were engaged in murders civilians elevated to the rank of national hero of ukraine well, as you can imagine , however, bandera in ukraine was actively glorified before. however, this did not prevent russia from maintaining contacts with representatives of the kiev regime and even attempting to negotiate, moreover, after the coup d'état in ukraine in 2014. our country recognized the new kiev government as legitimate, we recognized it. as you know president poroshenko we very much hope that president poroshenko will use the mandate of confidence he has received with all the nuances of this election, which took place on may 25th, is being used to stop the war. and not in order to

inflame the conflict further and further to drive it deeper and deeper, according to vladimir putin, for a long time, russia still expected to resolve the contradictions that arose from kiev peacefully, while the ukrainian side pretended to be ready to negotiate, but in fact , as the president explained, only drove our country. we have done everything possible to resolve this situation peacefully. means. now it has become obvious that this was by definition impossible, just that the enemy was preparing to transfer all uh, this whole conflict into uh, acute and uh hot phase. um, i repeat, there is nothing left for us, except to do what we are doing now before the start of a special military operation. putin did not directly call the ukrainian authorities nazi. although he didn't deny it. the very fact of rampant nationalism in

ukraine in 2014. after petro poroshenko became the president of ukraine, putin , speaking about the coup, accused local radicals. even after the tragedy in the house of trade unions in odessa, the russian leader avoided direct accusations against the ukrainian authorities , so in 2017, after meeting with angela merkel in sochi, he said that the fire that killed 42 people was the work of ukrainian nationalists, where exactly 3 years ago in odessa i ca n't help remembering this today either. a terrible tragedy has set in. ukrainian nationalists drove defenseless people into the house of the trade unions and burned them alive. the perpetrators have not yet been prosecuted nor punished shunned when the russian president came to power in 2019, when he came to power in 2019, there was hope in moscow for improving relations with kiev and a ceasefire in the donbass, here is how

putin spoke in 2020 about the possibility of establishing a dialogue, there is a possibility of zelensky friendship hope is the last to die. unfortunately. so he arrived in paris and began to talk about the need to revise the minsk agreements. this raises the question of putin changed dramatically on february 24, last year. at the time of the announcement began special operations the russian leader said that neo-nazis seized power in ukraine, and in november, the russian presidents once again explained why we had to start hostilities and called a spade a spade if in february, appropriate appropriate action on our part had not been taken. everything would be the same only

from the worst positions for us. and i'll add that yesterday all day well, most of the day telegram channel and patriotic orientation and anti-patriotic orientation. they dispersed just everywhere, which means that the rumor is, or well, the rumor is probably correct such that putin will make an extremely important statement at an event in st. petersburg. as someone declares war on ukraine, or, therefore, declares a new mobilization, or, uh, it means something about changing the status of specialization, in general, something like that right here. here, look. now now putin will say, so putin said what he said, because he said it. maxim anatolyevich what conclusion do we draw. we have to some special meaning now to convey to these statements. they really something will change our policy. or in general, the president repeated what he had already done last year, so as not to frighten our viewers who read either patriotic or pseudo-triotic channels, as i do with this. well, it makes no sense

to announce a new mobilization, because before the future is not closed and i think that now they will not be about anything anymore representatives of certain e, the most demanded specialties in the army. so they are quietly sent there to the war zone, so well, in order for society not to bring down the economy of the new announced mobilization. in foreseeable future. i hope it will be good with regard to our attitude towards the current kiev authorities. there is some change here. whether you see change or not, it's a tightening of the rhetoric. well, definitely. it is impossible not to notice from both sides. and of course, now in the coming months. and that and the other country will, uh, try to achieve a decisive turn in its favor. and the thought sounded that the possibility of peaceful

regulation is finally written off, as if from the accounts. of course not, because what, in the end, there will be peace negotiations anyway. in the end, there will still be no unconditional victory, for either side. well, this is simply impossible in the current alignment of forces, and in general , very few wars in history ended unconditionally with the surrender of one of the parties, so someday there will be negotiations, but at the beginning either one or the other a little more answer specifically. okay, here we are without water for water. but tell me, please, what do you think, the president always thought that he was not the nazis or that, but a certain evolution of his views. and now he says what he came to. here is a thought in life for each of us, but let's not say what he thinks, i'm actually what they attack, because i want to understand if there will be any changes in deeds after changes in the

words in which you listen ? uh, well if only indeed, he was convinced that these were such furious neo-nazis there and everyone should be judged, but they probably would not have exchanged commanders. azov who well, here it is the embodiment of neo-nazism. moreover, they were going to judge them, nevertheless the president decides to exchange them to exchange them. so, probably still. i understood everything, we do not know what he thinks, so in fact, alexander, as it were, both an objection and amendments. only we know, well, you also know all knowing means, look in this question. there are two sides. hey, i'll start with i know the second for a couple of minutes, and putin is a very pragmatic politician, so, uh, and uh, one of the tasks that you always face is not to deprive yourself of a single option for a possible development of events. everything should be on the table as far as possible. this is a difficulty for us, because we do not understand, as if there is a lair somewhere where you need to crush the reptile, but

he is pragmatic. uh, among other things. here is his rhetoric yesterday. actually started. this is exactly 24 numbers fit into a certain. uh, such a conceptual story is very important fundamentally important. and for us, too, this concept is called the concept of a just war, because for us, for our country, for our people, it is very important that the war we are waging is fair, and the west will not let the west determine that we launched an unmotivated aggression. yes, in order to acquire territories, there resources and so on. within this theory, this is called yuz from bellum. there is, uh, this theory of just cause is justice in the inbella war. and there is again. yes means, as far as this is concerned, uh, there are, well, a few points. it will just be listed. it is clear, right there good intentions are extreme means proportionality, but the main thing is the reason. this is generally accepted. this is very important in the world. this is

alexander yuryevich. let's get down to business, because after all, you and i do not have philosophical authorities here. this is very pragmatic, so putin does not get tired of proving to the whole world not to the west, but to the rest of the world that we are waging a just war. what changes , therefore, the definition of the kiev regime, as a nazi, it falls here, if we we determine if the presidents define it like this. this means that no agreements can be reached with these people, not without papers, without papers. i understand correctly, but lately we have been looking at the article. the position is clearly formulated, we are negotiating only with the united west somewhat, does this mean that at some point we will stop considering zelensky and his president altogether as terrorists, we have already ceased to consider him the legitimate president of ukraine, we have already ceased to consider him as such. and de jura, we cannot, that we are our own de facto recognition has already ceased to be clearly stated by our

military-political leadership negotiations only with the united west, that is, the united states without ukraine lavrov now then let's show that sergeyevich yesterday gave a big annual press conference for 2022. and there he spoke not even about the possibility of negotiations, as he wrote in many headlines, but i would say, but about the impossibility of negotiations. uh-huh. but there can be no talk of zelensky in the negotiations, but at least because he legally forbade negotiating with the russian government. so, all this chatter, western, that they are ready. but here we are , this is all from the evil one, another reason, according to lavrov, is not the independence of the current ukrainian government. the west simply will not let him make any fateful decisions on his own. in fact. uh, after all, the west decides for ukraine. they also forbade zelensky to come to an agreement with russia and at the end of march last year, when such an agreement

was already ready, it means that the west decides and decided it was not time for ukraine without ukraine. and now they say the same thing. more weapons are needed. we need to deplete the russian federation more lavrov was asked to name. my tragic and most encouraging word of the year, and in his response, many have heard the verdict of diplomacy in the ukrainian issue is now powerless. well, the word that, uh, gives hope, is victory, and those who want to hear the word of negotiations about them, unfortunately, they themselves do not want these negotiations, and, uh, all sorts of people manipulate this term in order to drag out this war as much as possible more against russia andrey nikolaevich, how can all this be interpreted? i interpret this in the following way, this regime has already been said for us at the highest level and it is not acceptable there just below the level above . we will not agree on anything with him. and if someday we

reach some kind of negotiations, then they are with these people. no, look. if we are talking here, it is necessary to speak precisely from the point of view of those borders. as a person in january 2014, who wrote that a fascist rebellion is taking place in ukraine, i can probably say why understood, our government for many years, back in the days of poroshenko, believed that nazism in ukraine was not a leading ideology, but a form behind which the pragmatic interests of ukrainian politicians were hidden. uh-huh and, therefore, actually with poroshenko, therefore, then zelensky, because we thought right up. i will even say until february it can be said that it is important for the ukrainian political elite to move away from nazism, and they themselves will get rid of it. yeah, we didn’t get away from the fact that this is a permanent main main state ideology. now it becomes obvious that those people who make up the political elite of ukraine at the moment. they are completely connected with themselves, if we are talking about what fundamental conceptual things are about. we could even theoretically

negotiate with the nazis. we understand what to negotiate. with them following the example of the historical one could be about a certain truce, but about no room for a specific long-term peace. look here, what's the thing that worries me, because i don't really understand what do you say about it, what will we do if we negotiate with those, well, what is laurel, who makes the decision for ukraine, this is understandable here. but you just said that we and our government for a long time believed that nazism is a kind of tool used by ukrainian politicians. but doesn’t what is happening today and what was said by our president mean that we are changing our attitude towards the citizens of ukraine in general, because until now we have said that we are not at war with the ukrainians. we are not at war with the ukrainian citizens. there are some nazis up there, and now it somehow turns out that

we understand that nazism is an ideology that has completely covered the entire state called a supporting structure, how can it be without a people, how then will we be with the inhabitants of ukraine to lead, if you mean, should we wait for the transition to slogans? kill a ukrainian no, but this will not come to any in fact, we understand that , despite all this support, we are fighting against nazism somehow depending on, let's say, we understand how deeply he has taken root, how widely, despite the fact that he has taken root. we have the historical experience of the victory in germany and the solution to the problem of nazism - it is in eastern germany. let's say we have and we understand that it's all the same, but zelensky. uh, powders come and go, but the ukrainian people remain spiridon, what do you say war or yours? why did they name it? because i consider one of my goals. it was another attempt to bring the

ukrainian government to the negotiating table. it was an invitation. let's sit down and make a deal. it worked. it worked, it worked, because there was an istanbul meeting. if they agreed on everything , they signed it, there were a lot of questions of speech, but the fact that they endorsed, something they first agreed to everything got scared and agreed, then johnson's statement that there is no need to sit down at the negotiating table, it is not necessary to create better conditions for ukraine to negotiate. here i am asking a question. at the time when all this happened, ukraine did not control only part of the territory lugansk and donetsk regions. yes, only part of it, today it has completely lost most of the lugansk region of donetsk, lost kherson, lost part of the zaporizhzhya e. regions. i'm asking a question. these are the best conditions for doing. yep, those are the best

. i think not really, maybe negotiation is certainly possible, but the question is who will be negotiated with and, uh, wait. that's what. i spoke. you have repeatedly noted that there have been no pro-russian political parties during all these years. organizations. here are the guests from this side of the studio. they are the same fedorov or soitin. here, yes, and victor burns that the growth of this rejection. you can even speak hate. from the side of the population of ukraine to us, he is just some kind of geometric progress. that's why i say, you tell me, here you are talking to you according to yours . there's nazism as an ideology. this is already a disease that has struck the entire ukrainian society, or is it still. that's just here they sit there and as a tool it is used. i believe that nazism is for ukraine-a miracle that is imposed and

really understand? uh, you just need to understand how, in general, uh, well, that's how the videos live there today with children, who, of course, are there, of course. this is not nazism. it ’s not like that, i’m saying it again, the nazis certainly play a key role in ukraine, they play a key role there without any doubt, but let’s say that the vast majority of ukrainians share this idea. and what kind of bendera and bandera are they really a hero. i can't say it. i give you more i will say. and why yes, excuse me, why do i ask you, but i will ask something that is interesting to me, you said yesterday, in my opinion, in our program that right now there are already almost a million people there, that is, there are more and more of them and more, that is, they do not share any nazi values, but they go to defend them with weapons does not mean that all the treatment. people who fall into the ranks of the armed forces of ukraine are nazis who go to defend the gangs. what does it mean to

drop a gun? and wild russian? give up. damn so throw go give up. and how many have you are already under 10.000 e, prisoners of war hmm what is there too? well, that is, it turns out that the total total number in jesus still increases. total number. vso. uh, about a million people. well, yes, well, this does not mean that these people are nationalists or nazis who go grab. this gun is in line to go to war. no, there are very different people there. and the nazis, by the way, to say on there at the front, they do. for another function, usually they are not on the front, they are right there in the back in order in order to control those who, in fact, are not nazis and do not share bandera’s dialogues, but nevertheless they were driven to the front, and forced to take up arms and there is no option, either you have to go kill the russians, or you will be killed by those standing behind. that's all. well, very much from what has just been said. i got the feeling that

this neo-nazism, as we call it, now lies not only in the heads of ukrainian leaders, but also somewhere at the heart of ukrainian statehood. and if we do not overcome this on the price, it turns out that we must overcome the ukrainian statehood. well , you know , georgy vernadsky, vasily zenkovsky, participated in the development of ukrainian statehood from the outside , i say that as far as the current ukrainian state is concerned, it is from a political point of view, when it is not profitably used by nazi formations or non-nazi extreme radicals. nationalist groups and parties in their own interests against the russian federation and against the russians in ukraine please tell me what you heard yesterday from the president and the minister of foreign affairs. do you feel agreement with this point of view of yours? if yes, then we mean somehow. well well, they must somehow reconfigure. there are political

repressions in ukraine. in ukraine, there is religious discrimination and anti-church repression, and in ukraine there is language discrimination, but ukraine itself, in terms of the political class, the whole zelensky is not a nazi. it's obvious and some. well, it is clear that this is not a nazi. it's a man who uses a man who can't see what he's doing nationality and a person of any nationality can share different fascist ideas, but in this case i was told that there are no nazis in israel. in this case, this person, who uses not only the ukrainian political class in general, i repeat, these or those are both and and and through this political power. including smells use the extreme right and the formation of their interests does not mean that they themselves are nazis. now, regarding the statement. lavrov putin's statement on this subject, remember. with what it all started here correctly spiridon recalled. after all, when, firstly, shortly before the start of the special operation, deputy prime minister dmitry kozak was negotiating in europe with the ukrainian delegation, they did not lead to anything, then

after the start of his russian delegation. she negotiated first in belarus, then in istanbul, that is, they recognized this side. what has changed over the past place has changed , that russian officials and matvienko and lavrov have repeatedly said that russia is ready for the unconditional start of negotiations without preconditions and on all these statements about the readiness of the russian negotiations. the ukrainian side responded as zelensky first indicated that the negotiation process, he forbids himself and the ukrainian government, but in addition, they were put forward. obviously completely unacceptable, and what is their unacceptability, that is, everything that the parties could discuss during the negotiations, the ukrainian side and it is clear that the united states is behind it, londons and the west are behind it. she wants russia to mean, all. uh, withdrew troops, solved all the tasks that ukraine set for itself, and then they began, he said, briefly. we were driven for

us by everything, we now understand that we were led by zanz. we do not want to continue further, what's next, i urge you all, please, just a little, yes, shorten the introductory part there, as maxim correctly said, most likely, each side, both the russian side and the ukrainian side, will try to correct the situation at the front, and see what comes of it. that is, we can expect in the coming months a new russian offensive. we can potentially also expect a new ukrainian counter-offensive and somewhere in the middle, perhaps by the summer. the weather you already have by the end of this autumn, we will see a new situation at the front. and proceeding from this will stand on how will the negotiation process develop on a new basis or not? you see, when it comes to that, we will not negotiate with kiev , we do not recognize the authorities. you see, south korea. maybe they also have their own government there, all this there are some people, who, well, negotiate not with those who

like to negotiate controls the state. now at the moment we like it zelensky doesn't like calling him nazis or whatever, but he controls the situation in ukraine and his westerners have been arguing, so negotiate so far russia does not control most of ukraine physically. and she will have to take into account the presence of this power in ukraine one way or another and those who control it on the western side, that is, summing up some result from lavender, nothing behind these words said yesterday and then sharply naughty igor sergey well, let me try briefly, firstly, now it becomes clear. and even by putin himself, it can be seen how disastrous a mistake the decision itself was. nothing further is obvious. you are like fedorov, here he is also sitting on this fuss. it’s like a thought, when it all

started, it’s absolutely obvious that a colonial war was supposed, what i mean by that, a huge country russia lives, how people used to live, go to restaurants to theaters. football travel abroad. everything's ok. all fine. we agreed to send an expeditionary corps of contract soldiers, there the national guard and so on, the universal region went back. we entered kiev, planted two chukas, yanukovych, anyone there. that's how it's planned. yes, i do not know, to be honest with putin, that the ukrainians will not resist. so calm down and everything is clear. everything went on for a year of serious fighting, when resources had long since never been fought. we see the next to see the next advance on the front. well, of course there is some zaporizhia and so on, but the price of this promotion is such that ukrainian cities are completely destroyed. that is, mariupol - it

's just generally the horror of some kind of russian city is. you saw how we were restoring it with some millions of refugees from ukraine and from this territory, and so on, we see a million refugees here in russia. yes, we are almost a humanitarian catastrophe. further , it turned out that the contract army of the national guard did not work and went. yes, if people are imprisoned. please take care of some headlight. you said that it is obvious to you from putin who is putin yesterday he said something like that, what happens next, what did he say? yes? damn it, really, nadezhda yes, listen, that's the way it was necessary hope wait at the beginning of this story. putin demonstrated in every possible way that this was such a petty small special operation , we never addressed the new year, he turned to the country. in reality, as the military leader of a great war stands the people in the army, he addresses the war, victory is now needed further question. how it all

ends is not entirely clear. i'll tell you so. i agree that it is highly unlikely, a global victory. well, i can't imagine that ukraine is there for its russia , the kremlin will take over and putin will run away, i’m not ready to imagine in the same way, i can imagine scenarios in which the russian army will storm kiev, i can imagine, quietly, quietly. this is not the question. and now i will tell you what the next price will be , in order to really take kiev in order to really defeat the millionth ukrainian army, which is helping. overwhelm the west with arms. you must comrade do the following. i appeal for this patriot. well let's do the first to announce the real mobilization in the country really put several million russian mice under arms. yes, further. you must, dear comrades, really close the exit from the country, really put the entire economy on martial law. at the same time

, you will achieve the fact that it will turn into ruins, like huge cities in mariupol, millions in ukraine, including kiev and kharkov, you will receive hundreds of thousands of dead people. yes, you want this every year to win complete nonsense from this to the last, of course you can, but then a full-fledged war, a terrible sacrifice, monstrous destruction was given. listen, comrades, it is for us you need a complete miracle every day, that's why the cauldron. where is the disloyal population? yes , tens of millions of people who already hate not only putin personally. they already hate me. the towers seem to hate everyone. what are you going to do, let's wait a very long time. and now, to the fastest , most likely to be the next look. most likely, russia will have the following, of course, a huge territory, a strong economy, you can’t just turn us around, but time works against russia because look at the report of the ministry of finance for this year, we have a background

national wealth will run out within a year, because oil is not to buy. then there is one principle during the year in cancer, boris borisovich did not write this. i read, what else am i afraid of, this putin story, that we are fighting nazism there. why are there nazis, fascists and so on. it easily hits the head of people of sixty -seventy years old. it's true forty about the head of people, 20 30 40 it does not hit at all, and most importantly. notice putin seriously, he's 45. you've seen it's not enough to talk. well, that's bullshit. and just look who's at the front, who there is one specific question that helps. you managed 5 minutes of time. forgive me to devour and at the same time do not answer it. i appreciate this talent of yours. thank you all, you tell this all the time despite the fact that you objected several times ivan objected to

the report of the ministry of finance andrey nikolaevich kiev newcomers. boris borisovich what does it mean to ask to leave? or you somehow still work here a little bit. igor sergeevich let's still try to answer our question, because i want to understand what the statement of yesterday's president and minister of foreign affairs. does it mean some change in our attitude towards this problem in general. here there so far, from those who here tried to answer my question. he did this only with the advanced pavlovich, he says that not everyone who fights is there. they share the ideology of nazism. that is, we still do not consider ukrainians to be nazis for me. this is a fundamentally important question, because then i can discuss the price of the storming of kiev, the price, but before that, little

remarque, we all just listened to a typical example of a liberal subversive propaganda. now he will start talking a lot about not waking up to make sacrifices. here is one of the sacrifices that must be made in order for there to be a victory, this is to subtract everything from russia and sergeevich subversive, yes, it makes sense, but now there is no interruption, but i don’t like it when they offer someone to clean up your opinion, it’s not interesting, yes to me what is it that doesn't work now . will you come. now let me answer the host's question, yes? so you asked how deep it all went. now we can say exactly 10%, 15 20 30 can't we can

to say one thing, that this organism is infected with nazism metastases, they put down their roots there. but, when we talk about what, for example, uh, this or that person has. sidorov's body is conditionally afflicted with cancer and the cancer cells have lowered their metastases. are we deducing from this that sidorov needs to be shot or what? sidorov needs to be treated to the last opportunity. and by the way, to say that our medicine also shows foreign, that foreign medicine can be cured, nothing shows foreign autonasia. this analogy is further an example. we now they have released, two regions of ukraine, kherson and zaporozhye, have not been completely carried out there in three, please, the result of which they voted for reunification, and let's imagine that the operation arrived successfully poroshenko arrived and they walk the streets with him in kherson and sing this song and

kharkov , anyone what the result of the referendum would be, no one doubts and the last thing the president and the minister of foreign affairs said, and they said that we came there to protect our compatriots who are being subjected to terror of the nazi regime. so we consider them as our compatriots. let's pause here for a while, we really need it now, we will somehow try to cheer up our guests on the one hand, and on the other hand to calm them down. short break. dead face severe electric shock the chosen method of murder does not occur to an uneducated person, but your majesty is the case. delicately, you can

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conversations in the previous part, which zelensky , in all likelihood, we are talking about. we don’t want russia in any way, and with whom will it be possible to talk, if zelensky does not take the presidential chair in ukraine, who can it be? last week, sociologists decided to find out who ukrainians would call a politician 2022. in the first place, without surprises , the terrorist president zelensky, but in the second place , the head of the armed forces valery zaluzhny remembered him every tenth, interviewed in november last year , it was he who, in a conversation with the american general mark mile, categorically announced the ukrainian army no possible agreements. kyiv and moscow were not accepted. and a month later, in an interview, he argued that the iconus of russians should be killed, and the main thing is not to be afraid to do this. although in peacetime, the laid down would not be particularly shy. would like to drive a tank across red square, would like to would. mm, well, mom, to be honest, yes, yes, with a

flag and with music, who is the symbol of another candidate for zelensky's place, former president of ukraine petro poroshenko, ukrainian journalists believe that in the upcoming presidential elections in 2024. he has a chance to fight for the victory. now the former rights of the state continue to pr at the front , pose for an interview with the western press, and the other day poroshenko boasted that he had sent 100,000 heating pads of generators and tires to the troops, diesel generators will go to the troops, so that in the conditions of the energy crisis and additionally provide food for the starlings. now it's a little warmer. first 2 days. our pickups froze. our buses need bus tires, there is no, if the head of the ukrainian state is replaced not because of elections, but because of an unexpected death

or illness, then according to the constitution of ukraine, the chairman of the verkhovna rada should perform his duties today. this chair is occupied by ruslan stefanchuk, a man who actively advocated the adoption of a resolution recognizing russia as a sponsor of terrorism as the main target for this year. he called victory over russia for us for us, priority issues are the recognition of the russian federation as an aggressor country, a terrorist country sponsoring terrorism. we very much hope that the same decisions will be made by the parliaments of european countries , spiridon pavlovich, for example, we woke up. we are tomorrow, but for some reason zelensky no, well, where the caliber flew, cherry pit, well, or simply not. a simple search cannot be found with any of these people. listed or maybe someone else we'll be ready to negotiate or it's a hell of a rare not sweeter. you know, in fact, the risk of zelensky being physically eliminated is actually great. i think why. because i watch zelensky get promoted by the world media, put on the front pages, then in

magazines. uh, oh, he is the person of the year there, then in congress, they say, it is necessary to put a small bust of zelensky, as it seems to me, in general, uh, so to speak, a symbol is a symbol. uh, the right of some kind of liberal idea, but the free world against dictatorship. he is basically ready. here, in principle, he is ready from this point of view zelensky needs to understand one simple thing, of course, the sheep are in the stage. they are very afraid of the wolf, but in fact, as practice shows, shepherds eat sheep much more than wolves. now, he needs to be afraid, and the issue of the physical elimination of zelensky may be in the interests of the west, but it doesn’t even interest me here. the probability of its physical elimination was low. but, if it is not , can we agree with someone else? or, again, we persuade ourselves that someone more negotiable will come. actually deed. no, listen. oh, yes, we are talking about zelensky forbidding himself to

negotiate; we consider zelensky an independent entity that has forbidden himself to negotiate. i believe that the ban on zelensky’s negotiations was a blood oath to fulfill what johnson and the entire west demanded of him, you want to say collectively that it doesn’t matter who it is, it doesn’t matter. listen, the americans have entered the ukraine system. they bought a stable. and you want to find out which horse you can bet on, yes, on any on any, so let's maxim anatolyevich i just translated. he completely agree. in principle, here, but the question would make sense, and if people like me in front of me had a real chance. seize power in ukraine and become the leader there. here we would have agreed with them in the worst case with azarov, but he would have learned the ukrainian language , we would have agreed with him, but they would not come. they never come to power, so there is no point in russia, not even one assassination attempt on zelensky, because zelensky will come instead. uh, whoever comes he will unfortunately fulfill the request of society

the active part of society - is the active part of society. now everything is suppressed. and she has the very nazis yes, a victory, so and someday, well, that's when we really have already come to the conclusion that now there will be mutual offensive attempts. after that, somewhere in a few months, there may be a summer loin situation. then, in the request for negotiations, negotiations will be conducted by the united states, because the united states is now worse than the last and the last power, where the sense of self-preservation has not yet atrophied among ukrainians. a long time ago, we have it atrophied before our eyes, but the americans understand that it is too far. start this conflict and it's risking a nuclear war with a nuclear power that simply cannot be defeated. and when they understand this, moscow will negotiate with washington at this level. we are absolute in this sense. no matter who will lead ukraine at

this moment, ukraine will have to reckon with the results of these negotiations. here is a relatively understanding of americans and a sense of self-preservation. they have a feeling self-preservation. maksim anatolyevich tanks are offered to everyone who produces ukrainian tanks, because i can explain the question is good now. if you give me a minute, well, then the americans think that it is possible now to defeat russia in a conventional condensation war without the use of nuclear weapons. they think that here, uh, the madness hasn't taken hold of the elites that much. ah. yes , yes, yes, that, in general, they will agree to ordinary beaches, let's say the ukrainians are reclaiming crimea and, uh, don't start a nuclear war. the current government admits defeat. to me does not seem to recognize. i think this is where the worst comes in. they don't realize it, in order to realize it you have to live

inside and you need to communicate with these people to understand how their philosophy of psychology has changed over the past 10 months. unfortunately, they themselves reduced the diplomatic corps, they do not communicate. it is just the absence of that very instinct that honestly dries up on its own, they themselves do not feel it, and the confrontation has reached a threat to their lives. that's it there in america who didn't sign up to to die for the fact that simferopol sevastopol yes , they do not care at all about these cities and for the first time services, so that they are part of ukraine and not russia, because of this they risk our lives there. or from kentucky yes, not enough. the fact is that some mistakenly other agreements are interested in the victory of ukraine. they are primarily interested in their own victory. ukraine is simply used by them to strike you said 500,000 times and repeat. what is the point here

, as they are not interested in winning, primarily ukraine, russia continued for as long as possible. well, please with all due respect, but it’s true, it’s been said in every program that they have already awakened our viewers at night when they talk about the reasonableness of understanding the states. here is a very important moment, how much they understand us. here the question is very interesting, because a few years ago, and the secretaries were so memorandum american general associated with the 1983 event. here that is the escalation of the tattoo conflicts is an interesting moment they were then spending for the first time in the history of the euro. teaching with the application of the maximum the introduction of nuclear weapons codes believed in all seriousness that the soviet side does not take this seriously. and when they found out that at that moment they were being held back, the mothers came of age and there are memoirs of self-harmful reagan, when he writes with a fake memora that in the third year i was surprised at my management. i didn't even know that the russians were really afraid of our strike. this is reagan with his rhetoric and his three-

year policy. for a long time he was convinced that we do not believe in the danger that he represents. today we see even worse. you understand, here the word madness sounded, you know, i don’t agree with it, the americans believe that everything that happens does not pose a fatal threat to us and the russians can agree to such a defeat. here is the main thing - the delusion is that this is not true and the russians do not agree to such a defeat. look, when they began to appear putin. listen, you need to understand that we really perceive this as a threat. if not, if they are so mistaken in who are not mistaken, and not in what spiridon said pavlovich that they bought a stable and all their horses so, maybe some kind of horse, is still ready to move away from madness pure pragmatism. do you understand? here the question is not even that, well, let's say there is somewhere there is some charismatic person who wants to deploy. you understand that ukraine does not exist today, even with its own money. she does not live on her own money at all, that is, any

person who tries to turn something over there, than he cannot control anything . it's a state that's well it's a state that's up to who it is will raise, how can he do it, if this has not been done for 8 years from the fourteenth year, if there are people there with resources and not to do all this. for what reasons? you can say something red-handed political there. well, how is it now? where will it take it from? in general, either she e, i take her to the registry office, or she takes me, or and everything remains there in some part. with uh a certain person hmm it doesn't matter what his last name is, who will be pulled by the strings in the same way and fed with money, and the americans or uh another option. we we win, we have some kind of conditional governor-general. and we are starting to restore all this with our money, which is actually. now it is already happening in the same mariupol if aleksandrovich has time for only a short 40 seconds. here, as if the

situation is different, and i, for example, can personally imagine. you correctly said that whoever does not become president, then becomes bandera with me. if so, it may stop banderas, i quite imagine that poroshenko or zaluzhny becoming presidents in place of zelensky will announce surrender and want to become governor general of the great southwestern united states heard you heard about what now i don't know well serious people. they say that the arrestovich may be in russian politics for some kind of there and almost. so we are on it and so here we stop. let's save our minds. boris is fighting. and the one he has is already shattered. a short pause , we will continue. don't miss the events and people of the week on central television, ukraine has become a field laboratory for testing western weapons, like learning ukrainian conflict the american arms lobby is preparing for the war of the future. how many

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traitors today need to be severely expelled and isolated. what to do with the creative heritage of actors and musicians of the inogenes, get them forever, and why all attempts to consign former idols to oblivion rarely yielded results. he's a monument to that right now, where everything becomes clear. what do you understand from the announcement? we are, uh, traditional already this season, and the technique we use is returning to our internal uh, to our internal front. we have major battles here. raging, uh, around people and creative professions that say something like that or else in some cases. they do worse against, as it were, our country against the authorities against, well, everyone has some kind of criteria against each of us. in general, everyone offers

to put things in order somehow. we, in my opinion , discussed a couple of programs on a proposal that was voiced, among other things, in the legislative bodies of power, which concerns such material punishment for such acts. well, there is the confiscation of property. there was something else, of course, increase penalties and so on and so forth today. let's just pay a little attention to measures. how to call them wars of professional influence , let's call it correctly professional influence so bureaucratic. ah, because there are also a lot of proposals by some authors of similar initiatives. we have it in the studio today. let's see the first story. state duma deputy sergei kollunov proposed to stop the issuance of state grants and subsidies for filming films, staging performances, organization, exhibitions and any other cultural events organized by artists with an anti-patriotic stance, in his opinion, cinema and theater

will not suffer without such anti-state actors. but the artists themselves could not live without a russian audience. support for anti-patriots should be blocked by 100%. this is fair, which means that citizens cannot support such a decision, so that the lord is in favor of the western customer. not only did they renounce the country, but they also continue to conduct anti-russian agitation, they continued to be listed in theaters with budget financing, another deputy. dmitry gusev, on the air of our program, suggested informing the audience about the actors and agents in the credits during the screening of films , by analogy with the warning about the dangers of tobacco and alcohol, according to gusev , min should follow this if a person has agreed to what he means to stand up and agent uh-huh well, let's mark everywhere. and how we have igil, which is forbidden in the russian federation, the organization ivanov is recognized as a foreign agent of the smolyanins of recognized companies. and it turns out, too, now it is necessary mark mark at the end, because

now it must go to agent nam. that is, at the beginning, too, you need to warn, and at the beginning, too, the viewer must be warned, as soon as it appears, of course not, to every film. need to revise the entire library very quickly. god forbid, if they understand that the initiative was taken by the deputy sergei solovyov, he believes that it is necessary to introduce public censorship and, with the help of a popular discussion, decide what should be done with the films where the actors were filmed and the deputy himself acted on agents believes that the prices are worth the agents to be cut from the movies to hell. i believe that to implement the practice. from films , the words and episodes of traitorous actors are needed after a survey and public discussion on this issue. this is a very important socio-political decision. my personal opinion on this issue. yes, it is necessary how in what form and technically, how to implement

it, the opinion of experts and specialists in this field is important here in order not to drastically reduce the quality and content of films with such harsh worlds. other deputies do not agree, for example, elena tropeko believes that the pictures already taken should be left alone. but cinematography is not worth financing new films with the participation of actors and agents from the budget - this is a collective work. it's not just artists there. there is also a screenwriter and director of photography. a whole film crew also creates these scenes and the artist owns only his face there. of course , i understand that you very elegantly switched the arrows to specialists and experts who should decide how to do it, but still, when you voiced this initiative of yours, it means that you had some idea how you are going to do it? this is how you will cut out words or episodes from a film played by a bad artist by a bad person, and what will happen? well, first of all, i'm not going

to do it. i want to say, most importantly, that the deputies. here they are obliged to work on the basis of the appeal of citizens. if now we see what a public discussion has unfolded and individual residents of the country are turning to say sergei anatolyevich. why aren't you taking action? we do not want to look at the faces of these traitors. do not watch or watch so it seems to me that the citizens are turning to the deputy with a request to somehow respond to the problem of the proposal of the deputy, as a person expressing the interests of the voters, in the first place, should e correspond to common sense. now, if i were a deputy, god forbid, of course, that i was elected as a deputy, i would only do more harm than good from me. but if i were a deputy, in that case i would say, my dear voters do not like you. eh, the face of it. uh, you scoundrels. do not

watch a film with his participation, but offer to cut scenes from the finished film so that it does not drastically reduce the quality and contain. well , this is, well, this is nonsense, forgive me for being frank. well, let's do it, then, look, the most important thing is that you have any other citizen. is in your opinion. so some people think it's bullshit. and when even now we have not even started the survey, there are two stages. just ask people how they think about it. here is the so-called survey, and the second, and the second on the basis of this question already, if everyone says that this is nonsense. that's 90% say, damn it, then there is no need to move on. well, if you personally, you yourself said my personal opinion. do you feel me? here we are quoting you. you say there my personal opinion on this issue colon yes , it is necessary, that is, yes, you yourself are not considered nonsense. let's try to do that now. yes, sergey mikhailovich hmm, as

a professional, it’s real like this. hmm , edit the finished film so that it doesn’t lost nothing in content. it's real, but it's meaningless, because, firstly, purely legal and logical. even the face of the actors in the cinema, it no longer belongs to him in the film, there is some kind of closed one. list of authors. this is the author. explain realistically. this is already interesting. i'm trying to understand the examples, and there will be a movie. here comes our program this movie hmm no no. no, wait, i'm without legal content and i'm applying. e to questions i say sergey mikhailovich and you are a bad person. we thank you. here i am talking sergey mikhailovich but what do you think, for such and such an occasion, the audience is sitting watching and suddenly it’s so crap, and since you are bad, we cut you out and the viewer does not hear what you answered, and then i appear again. i say, ok, yes, as it is, well, it's content. it totally screwed up. is

n't it so in the film and then only reshoot, firstly, it's so you are also pointless. i now want to say on another that the actor played his role. and it's not an actor. says the words from the screen it says meaningless cut. this the face, the acting of the actors, somehow there must be some other approach, because with us , he gave himself up, he already created this image and image and no longer belongs to him, but to the film to the world of the film and of course, it’s stupid that the audience will be deprived of the opportunity to watch it stupidity. moreover, here, of course, the effect of stress will work when something prohibits. this is how the slides, watch the film uncensored. look lovely there are lots of carvings. uh, effects, with some actor, only this we will achieve additional pr for those people of which well i am not worthy. yeah, so maxim , even the soviet government did not reach such idiocy, savelia kramarova. cut out, we move on. yes, just sorry, sitting, daughter. i don't know what faction you're from, you're judging

anyone, but that is, united russia has already reached this level, understand? yes, you understand how i have a voter here is such a question for you. well you say that i will not make decisions come to the initiative. well , why do you need e like that? well, let's put it mildly, not the smartest initiatives to listen to. you deputy. you seem to be like an elite, you seem to be how you live on ours, including listening to desire. here, there are really military operations, there are no other problems, except for episodes with the participation of actors that have already been filmed, or is the main thing for you, or is there deputy khamzaev or other deputies? fracts do not give you rest, that they are even more often than you a or tereshkov, for example, at the end of the name they come up with ridiculous initiatives. here, explain to me why, if you were here, i asked, if you were from the liberal democratic party, well, somehow i would be calmer, but without rules look as normal as possible. smart face.

got it, thanks for the quote. again, a well -known movie, from which it seems to have been cut out a long time ago. savva, tell me why do you need me to live behind you? you just need to understand the features of the work of a deputy. after all, it’s not the official who appoints, we listen to the opinion of everyone, both smart and not smart, and now, when people come and talk, now you give examples, now you start in a technical question. can be deleted cannot be deleted. and you imagine what if we now we are only talking about negative statements against the armed forces and the special military operation. and if there are such scoundrels who have committed the most serious crimes, but i will not name names, which they immediately have a lot of people, on which i don’t want to after. and if people tell you, do it, don't show these films, or delete them. i'm talking about what you need to listen to, but we haven't made any decisions yet. there are no students. we are obliged to listen to at least one actor and films are still on and

show that the adoption of the law is already underway. just polls, then discussion. maybe even this law will never be. but the fact that we are discussing it today and hearing people , you understand, this is very important. let's take a story and borisovich foreign agents, for example, journalists or some politicians. for me. it's clear. history, when they mean something very bad with their pen or somewhere from the podium, when they are foreign. actor ekaterina petrovna is recognized to clients and he is acting in some kind of let's say even he is on the agent and he continues to be filmed from the screen nothing but what the screenwriter wrote to him and what the director demanded of him from the point of view of some kind of emotional

expression does not do. so he does not carry it all from the screen. yes, i’m talking about cinema right now from the screen, he doesn’t do this. why do we have to somehow get to the bottom of films with him? i'd like to dig into these people that we call foreign agents, and how about possibly promising films and their new roles, because how they get popularity like a smolensk. yes notorious gained popularity starred in the top nine. he became famous, starred in the ninth kind, which was funded by the state budget, and then i use this glory. yes, he is a talented person. he is enjoying the fame which he received thanks to the state. he believes that he has the right to offend. the country to question the correctness of the actions of our armed forces, and so on and so forth, therefore, i believe that it is impossible and necessary. i agree. and what can you write about what

is in the credits, that this is a foreign agent, and i agree that the actor, he broadcasts films exactly the position of his hero. and what he broadcasts behind the film. this is already his personal opinion, therefore it is very important for the audience to separate these two images, and i will still insist on my position that these are the people, and from malinin to grebenshchikov and so on. i can list them and further these names in no case can be given further to continue to finance from the budget russian federation, a few years ago, the actor alexei serebryakov, who starred a lot with us and even starred in it. well, i went to here until february 24, i left for canada after that i gave all kinds of interviews to sit on that one, well, if it’s quite roughly speaking, circulation, shit, this is such a stable name, everyone immediately understands that national values ​​\u200b\u200bare rudeness. yes, yes, yes, while he continued to act. now

to whom then it didn’t occur to him and to the agent to declare what the difference was in the situation now. now very strong has changed. you understand when our country participates in a special operation and defends the life of our citizens, the right to life in general of russian russian citizens, and when our other russian citizens wish death to our country, but simply put everything in doubt, calling themselves a well-deserved artistry. we say it's all wrong. here. it seems to me very important to separate at all. hmm legal and traitors nowadays, unfortunately, these people are traitors when the one you spoke about stated this. our country hmm was not conducted by special ops. about another. i figured out what it seems to me, what 's the matter? yes, just what you just said about journalists. that is, when we initially adopted legislation. this is the

proignogen, everything was clear. and as if the actors, they did not get there at all. these ones are not very good, it’s clear how it is with them now , so, well, you must admit that the agent today is just some kind of brand of a bad person , a traitor, but at the same time, this glue is simply burdened with certain legal there are no subtleties, because there is a separate law for these people. no, let's go, as i understand it, it's like trying something like that on the example of water on agents, they are very suitable. and for whom, which means, before we show the next story, dear viewers, please, if you have children sitting next to the tv, take them away somewhere you will win back, and there will be a sarmatian. no, here again, we will now show you, and films for children, where there were fragments of films for children, where they were filmed or dubbed with some kind of voices on our agents are foreign agents since december 1 last year , all products are from these people, it is equated with pornography, that is, children are absolutely not allowed to watch. if anything, but

since neither the courts nor the legislators have given us any explanations so far. what to do with children's programs, where? horror lit up the inogens. we ask the children to clean up for a few minutes, and let's show the plot. the actor and agent artur smolyaninov played in a single children's film, for example, in 2011 he starred in a fantastic nael. there is a fairy tale where he played a plush hare and a scary circus with monsters before that, smolyaninov played in the family picture the book of masters in a fairy tale about how the wicked witch dreams of capturing the whole world, he appeared in the form of a stone warrior near abundant paintings, marking zero. plus that is, you can watch at any age. once i joked to you. noted in the movie and on agent maxim galkin a few years

ago, he voiced the oscar hare in the cartoon the big journey, and almost 20 years ago galkin starred in yeralash where he played a young teacher's children. control difficult quarter ends. i hope you have learned everything. get started. conversation makarevich, he lit up in the new year's comedy showcase.

on the other hand, it's perfect. all this is impossible. i drank mine, another freshly baked agent noise ms in the 2000s played in a youth film about moscow teenagers called a joke, and for a film about the biography of osip mandelshtan, save my speech forever. he wrote the music, all this should now either become 18+, or the law should be somehow corrected and the speech should be read again. i would like to answer with general things, firstly, you heard on the air some formulations with which i do not really agree. i think that we need to be more precise here, because you sounded disagree with the policy of the current government and the second position was these comrades with an anti-patriotic position. it seems to me that this

is not at all about this, but everyone in our country may not agree to be with a politician of 10 people. we are talking primarily about people who disagree or agree, and people who break the law. we now have some kind of extension of the interpretation of enogens appeared in we are all in a row, but they call us agents in my opinion. well, i don't know, i understand the logic of what, but in my opinion, we are reinventing the wheel, because you understand what 's going on. these are the people who collect money, which means for all these formations or finance ukraine. i mean, this is clearly a fall under our criminal development. come back, please. well, today we have a little bit about it and i'm talking about violation. uh, do you know what legislation is? what are agent legs for? well, as he says, i will fight, so bye antonch, bye there is no criminal article recognized by the court. listen. i'm talking about this,

that instead of reinventing the wheel. you just need to raise the criminal code. and there for each of these things there is an article that is either really an army. and this is a specific composition , and this means funding gets there from the raspberries. ah, they talked about high treason with you. please return to my question. we have asked you a more specific question about foreign agents. how does this relate to the actor now? what are you doing what to do about it? on my look, if what has been filmed before is a cultural property. and you can't and shouldn't touch it. and here's everything about the new. i say your opinion, yes, and maybe even in my opinion, but the law now forbids us to show anything that concerns in any way and the legs, it doesn’t matter if it is like that. here's a raspberry child to show violated the law ivan sergeevich i'm not ready to answer specifically

about this law, because here it is a law enforcement proposal. we want retroactive force don't have here now and show. and everything that happened in the past. well , now maxim no, i think that the author of this bill should be invited to this studio so that he can clearly answer the question. what to do in this situation? not i am not the people who are not the sponsors of this bill. yes, first of all, here are colleagues. now they tell me that lawyers were invited. they have them, too, now, as it were, not very nenets. yes, because when this law was adopted. eh, no one imagined that we were with such a collision. here we are now facing i repeat once again, what does it mean when it was we were just beginning this whole story of our son by agents. remember, we always told the first editorial that we do not forbid these people to do their work, they continue. here are the same npos there,

now we are doing it again, just understand. what the smolyaninov actor did in the cinema, i mean, this is a children's fairy tale, yes, the book of masters is our first, as far as i remember the experience of recently collaborating with disney, then all these grew out of this the last bogatyrs so, according to the law that is in force now, we have no right to show this to children, because you are right , because according to our law it is now equated with the same pornography, children cannot be shown the fairy tale book of masters. this requirement of the law is now an unsuccessful law. no need for it. i 'm trying to understand, i need to correct the previous parts, because it's also important to see colleagues. if it’s not necessary, everything is in a heap, there are people who, sorry for the expression, shit on their country and violate the law. well let's, and if they asked, you can, of course, you can cut off from budgetary attention from budgetary funding. the second moment,

and the fact that they killed, yes, the second moment is to cut something from the films, but this is technically, in fact, impossible. you don't even have to talk about it. well, imagine that this actor plays the main role. i will give an example here is a film of the world, a cool film. filmed just gorgeous. unfortunately. why is it enough? a? there is also a white actor in cinemas, he does not know, as far as i know, but he made a statement that he came to israel from there continues to say that we will cut this actor from the film. what was he watching besides you two? unfortunately, i call everyone. check out this one. there is one. here, dear fellow filmmakers, who joined them there. eh, dramaturgy alone will not be allowed to collect. that's when, uh, kevin spacey did all sorts of nasty things there and he hasn't been acquitted yet. someone now acquitted him. they took him out. where it was possible, and where it was impossible, they really re

-shot some kind of film, where instead of it this very christopher was re-shot. it's almost like a corsaz, there or a ridley, scott just completely re-shot the whole movie. well, that is, we should do this alexander vladimirovich no, of course not, because in general it is necessary to say a small example from history. uh, what if the actor starred in episodic roles, and you cut out such things from soviet films , in particular the actisa binyaminov, who left for israel, it’s enough just to go somewhere abroad and you, if this episode of the king, was filmed safely and from television broadcasts or movies cut out, but if he played the main ones, and if he is a very famous actor, in addition, they cut out only from the credits, you can imagine these unfortunate people who cut out from these films, a lao-clone, which was 3600, and then 1.000 for a long time, which means cut out, but that's how it was. what can i say? oh my god. well, it ’s not by chance that ours, so to speak, the opposing side floats a little, then here she really

doesn’t know how to do it. uh, because how to do it, in general, firstly, art, in principle, it is above politics. if a man, well, he really has already played, he is already carrying it. e in full, so to speak, aggression towards russia, and he waters it in full well, maybe he needs to be fined. i am really against radical actions, and it was not by chance that i said that i was against this inscription. no, in e. here, er, and then there are fines here quite a fine. as there is no e for administrative, of course, but art. it always flies higher, especially if it is not unambiguously thin. if it is a primitive unambiguous poster, it should, in principle, be subject to moral condemnation, as primitive stupidity, thank god this is less and less and it has little demand, if it is really a serious work of art, it is just the organization of relations in society, dialogue in society, and we do not have enough of this terrible, because we have announced art and

they said that i'm talking about any bullshit declared serious art said that you have not matured to our serious art, because you are stupid goats. well, no. i'm easy enough. define work serious bright, which is smart, subtle and not walking, primitive, i say, unambiguous, which us by faith of harmony. as they say, it's very easy to distinguish pornography from erotica if the same plot is printed in a cheap rag. this is pornography, if it means in some glossy magazine, then this is erotica. and if it is written in oil in the middle of the 16th century, it is a work of the world war, otherwise then it requires, in any way, discussion, maybe social potential. once again, i say it’s forbidden to return you from disputes after all. green matter in the end, because when we have a law on foreign agents, we again have those who wrote this law and voted for it

, something is by no means a ban on the profession if a journalist cannot work in it get out of this, work there in some kind of helicopter, create your own and please, yes, but with the actors in our theater they are mostly either state-owned or state- funded to the maximum big cinema, as far as i understand, is a good movie that it will collect and be also with state participation ministry culture adds something there, it turns out, if we say an actor and there is no state theater at the agent. and you can't take it anymore. yes, you can’t take him to the big cinema. yes, in general, and the average movie is also impossible to take. and this turns out to be a ban on the profession andrei nikolaevich no, you know, here we have such this is what was once in the program of cities it was supposed to eat not supposed to. do not eat is not a ban on the profession. and that dear comrade you know this, you know, we begin a conversation. you spoke, and showed that around you are only budget budget cinema theaters, but you didn't have to join or look for some kind of project freedom

of expression itself and so on, wait look at the united states you now try it there. what kind of art worker are you to blather against the agenda. and that's where nonsense. she three nikolaevich we all the way said that they have these united states on their cancellation culture. no, wait. well, we end up repeating it like this. i tell you again, no one forbids his profession. someone will take it to the project. let it go. for god's sake, you know, here questions is, what is it? what does it say that it is impossible to cut? you know, i remembered. this one is probably old. i remember that my childhood, when the line she walked, i really liked her. there are a lot of lenin in october. and you know, i never guessed. i only found out in the nineties that explosives were completely cut out from there, but he was not there, i did not even know that he was on this film. so what about the technical feasibility of cabinets. instead, bouquets of flowers are a technical possibility. if it will someone's will, it will appear. be confident. the main thing is that it's impossible. and it

wasn't good. this is good not good. but do you know where it comes from? you know when we start. and the fact that we had a soviet system in which it was considered, and the ideology of batson jora, if you fall out of this, then an expensive day of culture, take tickets and go to another country. that is, it was an established system. now i'm not saying good or bad. and now we have found ourselves in a situation where we have no ideology, but we nevertheless have a culture, we are trying to fit something make up, moreover, the culture itself is not ready for this, because no one will prepare it for such conditions. when i was little i watched, well, periodically there somehow. well , some albums of family photos and came across strange photographs where some of the people are not cut out. you are scissors. yes? well, some company is standing there and the face is cut out with scissors. then my mother explained to me that this was her aunt, respectively, my great-aunt grandmother, so she was such a person with a very active, but civil position. mostly. here's to combat different relatives she is these

relatives, who for some reason did not suit her. she cut out, so she's not the state was late, so i don't spend it. an example there is a shading there of stalin or something else of someone, what do i need? she's been doing it for so long and started doing it early. so early that even my mother, in some cases, she could no longer remember who the person was, which means who baba lena , that is, oh, she works maxim anatolyevich she worked before the war and after during the war. she worked at the post office. so, when i already had her. she was a nanny in the maternity hospital, so here i am, for something , that is, this is such a measure. yes, it has results. that is, if you start cutting someone out in time, then in 30 years, yes, then you will achieve that this bad person. yeah, they won't know him, they'll forget valery

valeevich, well, they didn't forget the gyrostrat, and about theaters. e many years ago. i was here, and with some courageous foreign tourists, we are not friendly yes, the country is here, and they went up to the theater poster and very surprised that every day there is a new performance. they asked me how it is, perhaps, this is not profitable, because you are not friendly to their country, the performances are played in blocks by these private theaters, like on broadway, and there the viewer decides whether he is bullshit or not. and what about an official or a person who has never been to this theater. we have therefore viewers should this example. of course, art needs to be separated as far as possible from the state. it's wrong for us to endure everything. here you will not be allowed to lie. we once at some point, but tried to show tv series there, too, according to the american standard, new episodes once a week, never mind, it doesn’t work for us. we need to have a

new network every day for the whole week. then we look, so what works. they got an ideological model already regarding the artists and cutouts and so on, well, there you can also wear a thing with a hole or a patch. it all depends on where this hole and patch is located, and when the children were talking, i remembered, his old roads, of course, you know, husband and wife. doesn't matter. what nationality look at their 10 dirty unwashed children and say, we will wash these politically correct or new ones like this now with artists. the same thing, it suddenly turned out that they are dirty grimy and we decide on new faces, friends. we haven't made any decision to try yet. just how many in the country i do not know. you probably considered the mp the person says. once again, well, how is his decision to give birth to new ones? okay, this is also a decision and all decisions are turned into everyday life in general, as an artist you can

by the way, it’s not stupidity to behave , it was written in the baste rakitana that he does not smile, for example, in public places. here, write down that the artist according to the ethics of stanislavsky there is such a work should not behave. how is it like a kabatin. he wrote, that is, if he plays the king on the stage, by the way, he must get drunk after the performances in order to see him at all all this bulkhead to be written again, and you are all going. do you collect everyone? you are something like a childish style. propose again if it counts problem, we need it, like those else, firstly, firstly, we don’t have any. quiet. the first juggling is not necessary to give birth to new ones, it speaks of units that have made their life choices; moreover, it becomes a problem, even. if a person is simply,

for example, a person simply does not like him, if he is, for example, maxim, this is not a reason to take any measures against him, but if a person is engaged in discrediting armed russia, if a person wait let's need an administrator by gender again, and valery valeryevich, uh , characteristic of his taliq. but sarcasov will disappeared offers us. e thing from which i would immediately like this. i didn’t start off, i didn’t say about the heisi code. we used to remember him. this is the golden age. hollywood had certain rules. they are there, how to shoot somehow, let's say, a kiss and we shoot, yes, uh, and, accordingly, how to behave in everyday life. here you are now as you say it, here. it's all wrong. here, as far as i remember, for example, in my contract with the maternity hospital, the television company says that i do not have the right to publicly discuss the editorial

policy of the production of the personnel program. that there is if i start. that's about it there is something for la-la, it means that i, as it were, have the right to punish. why can't we? is this where we have a problem? in what? that we can't legislate somehow with these guys. do you understand what we should do? why, why can’t we for a second, since such a problem we have drawn to prescribe it as valery valeryevich suggests. here you play smolyaninov, mostly war heroes there, which means that you correspond to these war heroes in everyday life. so, do not give interviews on political topics. i'm pr-a. if he's at all plays, then he says, only hai hitler all day long. i don't know, i'm not suggesting, that's all. then the howl after that for a whole month is actually a collision, you can’t even imagine how you

romantically regulate all this. i looked over the new year holidays. these holidays are three performances of new performances. all of them, damn it, a completely different topic than today's reality. all of them were directed against the war against the current socio-political situation in the country. uh, everywhere there were calls one way or another. against today's government, no, this is the applause of the hall. no, everything is clear. moreover , in one performance they were very good, interesting, talented in one. uh, it was me at the dress run, where the chief director takes a principled position, that is, patriotic, but nonetheless. it means that he became an environment agent, he liked the traitor very much. this is to the fact that you chase the devil, the door, he climbs out the window. art is water that spills everywhere. 'cause art somehow fits social and political mood in the country. and if they are like that, it will be their

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very good people engaged in creative activities, and maxim anatolyevich at the beginning of today remembered the specific name kramarov ah and said that kramara was cut out of films or there from titov and differently there, and kramarova, we recalled in one of the previous programs on this topic. vanya is just e kramarova, compared with malyaninov. let's. we will now look at a piece. here is from this previous program, and then i will tell you what came out of this dialogue. the public loves less after he offered to leave the country. jews at that time, mikhail borisovich did. he's not the most pleasant statement. oh, he’s already left, you don’t understand at all, yes, and decide how to treat him, i decided to treat him with the help oblivion did not work out this comparison greatly

excited our viewers in the comments on social networks, some wrote that it was incorrect to compare with raspberry kramarova. that's why well, ivan well, how can kramarov, who fought for himself for freedom of choice, where to live and work with that rabble who wants the death of his homeland, compared kramarov with these freaks, when kramarov brought such disgusting things against the ussr about the fact that he no one needed. it is not true. he was filmed not so often, but not in the crowd he had good filmography, and he starred with famous american actors. he was very shallow and kind and never spoke badly about his country, that savely kramarov, who considered himself unclaimed in his homeland , wrote a letter to american president ronald reagan, in which he praised his fame in the ussr and asked for a quote to help your great country find opportunities to work in your specialty. after kramarov emigrated to the united states, soviet censors tried to cut his roles from all films,

but georgy mimino and gentlemen of fortune daniel managed to defend. and why am i like that so immediately oblique oblique? bass? well, tell him. let him climb, in addition to kramarov, another actor from the gentlemen of fortune, oleg vidov, emigrated, he was no longer invited to shoot after a divorce from natalia fedotova , the daughter of a high-ranking kgb officer, after he spent several years without work. he decided to emigrate, popular with the audience. the film was waiting for a long oblivion. the soviet union left, even performing a song about demolishing in this film. sing larisa mondrus after her departure to israel the name was cut from the credits, and the other numbers of the singer from the filmed tv shows. you are destiny. it seems that fate befell the film pokrovsky

gates due to emigration to the united states, actresses elena koreneva, who married an american, banned their screening and telecasts with her participation by the trustees, so the director mikhail kazakov first wrote poems about it, and then he himself left israel i have two works friend did. she played roles in two for the main role, she filed for departure and in the ass two of my films at the same time and mikhail kazakov elena koreneva then returned continued to work for us, and problems with different films could be remembered on june 31, which was also not shown godunov fled to america well, and so on. so alexander vladimirovich said that we don’t need to do something like that. how is your relationship. and i also think that this is not necessary, but after the films that will be shot, the performances that will be staged with the participation of the state of the state budget, those people who betrayed our country, who wished death to all of us, who are financed by others

military groups. that's where their place should not be, nevertheless, do not think that this is a ban on the profession. exactly. here is the forbidden profession, please, there are commercial sites, please, there are commercial projects. let them really think that the commercial projects that are here kiy, in terms of content, they will be possible if these citizens of the russian federation i want to say the citizens of the russian federation cursed our country, wished us all death. they should not earn our country's money. this is my clear opinion don't come and ask this country for money and you're not a citizen of the russian federation. i mean, all kinds of comedies with mr. zelensky the terrorist president . surnames names, actors singers and next. and what did they

do or what did they say in order for anyone to have commercial cinemas, i have commercial structures that hold concerts. we could go there and have a look. yeah we won’t call him on the list, and we ourselves, as president, will call him somewhere to shoot terrorists, but it has already been filmed. yes, you propose to put not shown in this stop list too, or leave everything alone, yes, for now, recommend not to show. yes, a few minutes ago of the previous part they said that everything is old, so we will postpone it, but we don’t give money in a new way. and then it turns out that we expand it and we no longer have it. this is not to be shown to state channels by the state cinema, and commercial ones can at their discretion, but should not know where they look not from all the people that the traitors killer finance to kill and so on all evening in the arena traitors so-and -so come and see, unfortunately i took it. i don’t think if the whole evening is in the arena, guys, because in one of

the cities of the region’s cities, which i listen to quite by accident, this is, as it were, uh, ridiculous, after all, the situation. i already spoke about it. here i have a tricolor well, this is the one, yeah, there are a huge number of different channels. there is a channel that shows every day from morning to night here these svatov or svatov and does not learn the stress in any way, it is written everywhere, titer, there is a producer, zelensky producer. there 's a bastard, that one they tried to kill there. well, he worked there too. despite the fact that half of the actors there are not ours, but who are ukrainian, they are also there about ours all day from morning to night to show it. it was unpleasant to watch listen. well, this is not my kind of movie at all. here, although it seems to be so cute there, but their values ​​are universal, because people love the series matchmakers or matchmakers, no matter how we don’t belonged to the cities of my region, accidentally showed the film zelensky in the summer and residents. yes,

that is, they began with the director of the park, who included this film for free. just awesome people made it. we have a public request for but here it is clear, who is a traitor, who is not a traitor, people need to be helped to answer. that's not what this film will think. i accidentally once got on one of these channels here, well, he looks like zelensky and plays napoleon some old film i am absolutely exposed to napoleon and zelensky plays him in franco-fil, then you need it at this moment, if you take these recommendations with animal seriousness at this moment, when the moronic napoleon says some kind of moronic there. yes, there are absolutely moronic denis napoleon especially, and at this moment,

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period, i emphasize in this current difficult period. the period of the special military operation should be dealt with creatively. ah, the figures of the faces that go. well, let's say, so contrary to the public mood. andrei nikolaevich, you understand. in our country, the whole culture of the soviet period is anti-people not in political terms, but in the fact that it or the container of the people doesn’t want all these tasks, in principle, and you understand, she solves what she likes with budget money, so we have patriotic inspections in a year in practice, they are nothing and above that. i understand, you know, when two people are arguing, one can say, don't yell at me, or you can say don't be silent at me, so take it and keep silent. andrey vladimirovich, i'm trying to understand what valery valeryevich said, but i don't always succeed. well, so ekaterina petrovna yes, i believe that in the period when our country is conducting a special military operation. we must respond to our enemies, not

only on the battlefield, but if these enemies are inside us inside our country, including among the intelligentsia. our country should give a symmetrical answer understood. here's how to express it. everything is clear. here so sergei mikhailovich i believe that such a situation. uh, the state with these punishing bodies needs to be punished only for a specific crime that is spelled out in the law and punishes clearly intelligibly, that the rules of the game were clear, the discrepancy between your internal thoughts in his state and the general line. it's not a crime yet. but of course, the society must somehow react through the institution of reputation when they want the hand of the mother of this bastard, who agreed all sorts of nasty things through indignation and unwillingness to go to the cinema to watch it on the screen through turning off the tv and falling ratings of a healthy society. is this how you should react? so antonchik is definitely those who break the law. and everyone we're in people mostly discussed it and those who broke the law should be punished, but at the same time it is necessary. it seems to me to insert an opportunity for those who will repent publicly and accordingly twist

their words in order to somehow find some kind of compromise, but in general. i want to say this in the next that people are all very fine nature to work with them exceptionally well or badly. this is so, if they are creative people, therefore, to work with him exclusively by directive methods. this is stupidity, it seems to me, if this is still a piece goods, if we are talking about people with surname, and if from the very beginning and with him with each person personally authoritative for them , they met explained. well , what can we say that time is not allowed. you have received much fewer examples of his surnames, so we should not accept him. we have a very fine fine fine tuning. i don't know how to fight. with such not so thinking in the wrong direction speaking actors. i just really want everything that was filmed with them before let's not touch, please, let's not in the legacy of the fact that it will be very much useless. in my opinion, unnecessary work for people, right. because in general it’s very difficult somehow, everything that concerns art. subtle natures, tili-tili, figli,

blinks, everything that concerns art is there. i think it should be easier. uh, the husband and wife are sitting at home, the wife is solving a crossword puzzle. husband is watching tv. he says so is a genre of art. four letters. don't take your husband off the tv. wine speaks. no, wine is not suitable. the first letter to the nonsense of guilt always suitable it was a meeting place that cannot be changed 14:00 weekday ntv broadcasts all the best to you , goodbye. do you watch news on ntv in the studio? egor konovalov