no case was dismissed in relation to the three employees of the former employees of the kindergarten, the negotiation was changed the legality of the decision will be checked after receiving the entire e, the entire ruling of the judicial panel, the defendants were actually released from punishment, including due to the expiration of the statute of limitations, in addition, the court reduced the amount of compensation for non-pecuniary damage that educators will have to pay to the families of affected children. but the claims of the parents were left unchanged, but they are sure to put an end to this scandalous story early, despite the fact that the defendants' sentences were commuted for the second time, they are going to go to the supreme court in order to get the kindergarten teachers into custody . let us know in the official telegram channel of pe ntv feedback is working. rest assured, the correspondents of the program read all your

messages. well, we'll see each other tomorrow at the same time on ntv goodbye. you can give the power of resistance to the leopard. come on why did germany decide to keep their leopards. we must weigh the pros and cons. how, with the help of ukraine, the western world planned to improve its economy, the victory over russia will be a huge stimulus for the world economy. why did the former officials of ukraine begin to talk about defeat, if everyone thinks that we are guaranteed to win the war, then it’s better not to talk about it today in our program. hello, this is the meeting place on

ntv, the place where everything becomes clear in the studio andrei norkin is me and my colleague. ivan trushkin. this is it. we are working live and the latest news of the morning, probably, can be distinguished. e, the decision of our ministry of foreign affairs this morning, the ambassador of estonia, e, the extraordinary plenipotentiary, was summoned to smolenskaya square and he was told that until february 7, please, goodbye. let's goodbye. in general, the dishes of estonia should leave within the next. here, in the coming weeks, the status of the estonian representative office is being reduced to a temporary attorney. here is our answer to another decision, and tallinn to reduce the number of our diplomats who work in our where representations. so far, there are no others in other countries and there is no news. well, no, we have, in general, companionship. as you know, i never did. but that's what they write in the morning. they say that somehow we need other comrades, too, who are

not very lemon comrades to us. to note that we in this studio have repeatedly called for such a yes way, i did not call yash. this is me too, but you supported, it's mental. here's what concerns the main, e main event of the past weekend. it is, of course, here is the rammstein rite. we started talking about him last friday, when we had the final broadcast that week. in general, we can say that by and large, well, the situation has not changed much. there, the main issue was related to the supply of german leopard tanks to kiev. what we are talking about is not only deliveries from germany, but the supply of these tanks in general, because they are in service with many nato countries. uh, well, figuratively speaking, there discussions went like this, come on, you start first, and then i no, come on, first, you are there, and then there, well, i'm ready, but let's all together now. we will decide this and we will all start doing it together, but someone else is better. here is approximately the same discussion, only

as they say. uh, there were more emotions. in general, many of each other are satisfied with me. this does not mean that the issue has not been resolved, most likely, sooner or later, but they will find some kind of compromise. well, we can't say exactly when. let's see the plot of the first comments regarding this meetings at the rammstein base at the rammstein base of the united states, several european countries promised to give ukraine new weapons, including what had not been supplied before, but the main question, whether kiev would receive heavy german leopard tanks, remained unanswered, germany, despite the pressure of the allies, so far does not agree to send tanks, but the minister of defense, just in case, ordered an audit. how many leopards are in the reserves of the bundeswehr, we cannot say when such a decision will be made and what it will be. we discussed the possible supply of leopard tanks, but unanimous opinion on this issue. no, we are not afraid of anything. we are simply responsible for our population in germany

and in europe and we must weigh the pros and cons before making such a decision germany's indecisiveness infuriated the allies the western press calls this is the first serious crack in what was once a solid nato front the balts do not cook most of all. estonia latvia lithuania demands immediate supplies from the germans poland which , together with finland, is already ready to send leopards to ukraine and is only waiting for a signal from berlin is now so insolent that it threatens germany with international isolation. in germany, not agreeing to send tanks to ukraine finds itself in international isolation. if they continue to adhere to this position, then their position will be extremely weak, last friday. the poles hinted that they reserve the right not to wait for the official decision of berlin by the polyard and to take a non-standard step a day later, the minister of defense of ukraine said that ukrainian tankers would soon begin training on

german tanks. this is an opportunity for countries who own leopards to start training courses for our tank crews, we will start with this, and then we will move on. i hope that germany will calmly conduct its own internal consultations and come to a decision on the possible transfer of tanks. i look at it optimistically. the pentagon, in turn , hopes that they will be able to crush the obstinate german allies to the scales, for now. they did not decide to provide leopard tanks. we have a window of opportunity from now until spring when they start their operation its counteroffensive. and this is not such a long time, this is a decisive moment for ukraine and a decisive decade for the whole world in the american press, the baitan is already telling. how to force scholz to send leopards to kiev indecision in germany

is critical? calling the west and biden can't sit idly by giant gasoline-guzzling abrams needs constant maintenance as it's ill-suited to ukraine's terrain and capabilities but if sending a few abrams tanks is the key to breaking the impasse potentially much more and the leopard party, president biden, must give his consent. and on the eve of the publication, spiegel announced that berlin could still send several leopards to ukraine, it is supposedly an outdated tank model that is used in exercises to imitate enemy tanks, while there is no official statement at the beginning of future deliveries, according to insiders bundeswehr. the list also indicates which models are suitable for delivery to ukraine, respectively, it is quite possible that the bundeswehr could transfer 19 models leopard 2 a5 according to the list. currently

. they are used to represent enemy forces in an army combat training center, so they mimic enemy tanks during troop maneuvers. they say that it is better not to use the two a5 models, because they are used only for the taka vitalinich exercises. perhaps the barely appointed minister of defense of germany simply does not want to start his activity of executing other people's orders. well, of course, this is tuck and we all fit into scholz's strategy as a whole, which many among us mistakenly consider more conciliatory than. and so to speak, the strategy of a number of other countries. ah. so, in my opinion, it is necessary to understand that scholz is no less a supporter. uh, as it were, positions from the defeat of russia and the war of military or military-political defeat than others , moreover, in some issues he is more radical than many, the only thing that he has, unlike those who are suggesting, is to

look at this spring as at the decisive moment it is now, as it were, the key function that they scold, actually the germans, that we are talking about a key point. this is a tank battle this spring, either ukraine or russia will ever go on the offensive, so let's get the tanks. uh, scholz's team thinks, otherwise, that, firstly , uh, the war must go on for a long time. during this time, germany must create an infrastructure for the legal defeat of russia. they have such an idea, i say this, now it’s not just what i know, which means they have an idea. what that after everything is over, and so to speak. they come from what will end for uh, the west is positive, so, uh, russia must be condemned, so now the infrastructure of international tribunals is being created, and so on, and thus along the way it is with them from germany to blame for it and so on. there is a whole range of activities thought out from the other side of the scholz. ah,

he put in a rather strong man of history, who, apparently, was a member of the so-called nato parliamentary group. that is, he is not a new person for us. uh, he will now evaluate how really to keep ukraine afloat in this concept. it is called in germany the tactic of salami, his approach is to cut small pieces into small pieces. yes, ah, that means, in addition, the scholtsy, his team is well aware of who they are dealing with in kiev. that night, today there was an interview with one of the main, so to speak, fellow travelers of the scholtsy on the price tag, and where he recalled that two missiles are ukrainians fell on the territory of poland and that there were more of them there, just these deaths of people, if not for germany at all

wants to enter, as it were, into the next story, when it is reformatted. in general, the whole european situation is like the country that, as a result, delivered the first tanks and so on. those who before the germans eat him up and try to push them. they understand this today, or something, they understand how they do it. or they believe that it will not affect them. better let the germans get dirty, of course, but on the other hand. eh, apparently. e, scholz, he understands, there are some red lines, which , nevertheless, in this situation in this war are not without reason. he recently spoke to by the president. i think that his colleagues in germany are not informed to such an extent about these red lines. in addition, he has an internal. uh, so to speak, already set for the next elections, and his main opponent is green, which today is the main hawk. uh-huh and they are torn.

here is the delivery of these tanks. you will notice from behind these leopards almost imperceptibly. we even have a delivery. uh, martens of armored vehicles. yes, big parties. still, a slightly weaker weapon. weaker, but how many disputes were delivered to germany or whether it will be delivered or not, so they set it up and, as it were, nothing was right, because everything slipped through instantly. well, look, so here, uh, catches austin said until spring. yes, they are trying to push through, they will try to push through the germans, so that the ukrainians. and this is not in doubt. we have already shown that ukraine will launch an offensive in the spring. as far as i understand, the next ramstein is in february. yes, in a month they are in a month and a half. well, andrei vladimirovich here. uh will be resolved all these questions. everything has already been decided. unfortunately, everyone ran into these leopards. although this is not the line for whom, but, unfortunately for us, as well, because we have all the tokha plaques and other things actually on friday in rammstein, but a very important event took place

, a huge assistance package was finalized, which includes yourself with all kinds of weapons leopards. there it is. sorry, it was discussed by the seventh question. so, it's not me who draws attention to them. this is the ukrainian president leopards. need more all the way to the end of march. uh, ukraine should receive up to 1,000 infantry fighting vehicles - these are tanks. yes , today she lena berberg announced that they are withdrawing objections to the supply of leopards from poland. your phrase is not quite right, she said that if there is an official receipt for a social request from poland, we will play. no, not yet, nothing in the fields. no, it's big. yes. i know that he is already in berlin and that's it. so this is the first and second. this means that it is fundamentally important to understand what will happen, of course. here is the most used. uh, the principle of such a rotation, then

there are weapons will be supplied to poland in poland will be supplied to ukraine in poland will be replaced. as they say this time. eh, the third moment is fundamental, eh? consent was once again confirmed by the united states in person. austin to strike at the crimea this is a fundamentally important point. they didn’t advertise it out loud - it wasn’t mentioned, but you know about it in the decisions and so on, but hmm and uh, it’s completely clear that in about a month and a half the missiles will be transferred, which can, uh, so to speak, his range to get, crimea through poland is more. now i it was the main hub. now everything will go through it, and these canadian bmp-2 things will go through much more. here is the last moment. this is what is really happening now, and not one of the countries that, in general, uh, is participating in the process, no one has refused. uh, stop helping the other way around. and uh, the most

important thing is that after ramstein from my point of view. we have to say that, uh, our us relations will go completely to the bottom, because it is quite clear that the us is more they won’t talk about any options for a peaceful settlement and so on, it’s important to decide the military becomes a time factor, then, yes, alexander alexandrovich showed on march 12, yes, the ukrainian offensive is the first thing to be noted in connection with rammstein, which we were once again shown i completely agree that there are red lines, but the red lines, for example, which we demonstrate, i have said many times in this , they are not on our table, but they see ours. that is, they were also afraid, you don’t really understand what it all means, praying for these leopard tanks. here is a question for me with missiles that reach the crimea, it seems

more interesting to the more deserving. eh, seriously interesting look. here is kras. this is the second time - this is an absolutely political story with almost no machine tools related to the war. wait a. leave the cleopard there. now, at least for a moment aside, if andrey vladimirovich is right, his information is true, the americans are lifting those, well, restrictions, the restrictions that were said, guys. we, firstly, allow you to shell, crimea in second. secondly, we'll tell you what uh-huh this is perfect. now, if you are talking about the reds, wow, red and in fact a lot they just get thinner and intersect and the missiles that finish off the crimea with the current and under the control of ukraine territory - this is the same red line, which the americans know very well and know about that we know it. we are so, uh, actually the last ones. 2-3 months of discussions in the west about supplies

show that they understand very well that uh. hmm. they really walk on the edge of the abyss, because it's one thing. your offensive. by the way, i do not rule out that this is an attempt to delay deliveries. we will deliver everything, but there in april in may. i do not hope that our offensive will already take place, they will say, but it is no longer necessary. uh, everyone is looking to get away from this topic, because once again nobody knows where we will stop, and they are not in vain building a global line of defense, wait. you said the red lines are getting thinner, nevertheless they substitute these same missiles. god forbid, of course, but there is such a possibility yes, and even more likely that the ukrainians have these missiles and still shoot somewhere in the direction of crimea. i don’t know whether it hits or works, but, nevertheless , the red line is crossed. let and thin but and so on. what are we going to do? well, since we won't tell about it until the moment of execution. what do you think,

let's broadcast, yes such a thing? come on, i have converged the largest american think tanks. yes, last year, uh, including this missile situation. they wrote several options for our reactions, one of them is the launch of missile strikes on electricity, transport hubs and places of concentration of weapons outside ukraine, for example, in romania in poland on nato territory absolutely right. directly seriously. consider our yes on the territory of a nato country. yes, i don’t think so. they mean, uh, there are several positions here friends. well , first, despite the loud statements that this is the spring offensive counter-offensive. i mean the loud statements of nato and there will be, uh, russia is defeated, you need to be realistic, in fact the west and nato are in particular. naturally, not wanting the victory of russia, well, in no case strives for victory, from ukraine the process is important to them, they need ukraine to fight with russia. as long as possible

, russia was weakened, europe was weakened , weapons were tested to work out new models. already they need a war for a long time, therefore, weapons are given. it is given just enough to keep the process going, the second leopards are all really a noisy smoke screen under the guise of 2.5 billion us dollars only, uh, challenge tanks. already decided british. yes bradley mine-protected technique. this will all be supplied. again, it is dosed, as for the third position of the scholz himself. so i'll use my own example, so, uh, my father's parents. were burned, who arrived in a german tank on the soviet territory of the russian citizens of germany, german -speaking german-born mothers. i am sure that even in this audience there are a lot of people whose direct relatives, not distant ones, were killed

by german citizens who came to russia in tanks. and probably still this one the background is crushing the germans, because there is no getting away from it, that is, tanks are bad. but it’s normal to drive an infantry fighting vehicle or a light one on it, so we ourselves said, put something. well. therefore, one must perfectly understand what he did not talk about now, he will always draw a conclusion, then pretend that, well, these tanks and my own prokhorovka will force me to have my own kursk bulge, probably, alas, we are waiting, therefore, there is nothing for ours, while the military industry is absolutely you need to understand how to prepare for this and deal with it, because there will be leopards. there will be many more. what we don't want to see. you need to understand this, you need to be realistic and seriously prepare for this. disagree from this. victor, did you disagree with something? well, my grandfather is

my father's father. he also died at the front during the war to this father was 4 years old, but i 'm afraid that the germans will not merge with the german military or the german military-political establishment. all this does not matter. in fact , they don't care at all. they are trying, they are generally supplying weapons to ukraine for a long time they took an active part in all the events of 2014 in ukraine and in in general, their role is important in that we have come to the moment we have come to, so we are talking here, rather than that the germans feel some kind of guilt before russia or are afraid. there are some other problems there. they don't want to be first. they want already said. i am such an image. here, in order to be created, that the americans are uncle on them. sam puts pressure on them, with all his might, the poles have brought you here they have to. that is, as they have in front of them there will be a whole cold leopards, but i would pay attention to the

next moment. i disagree very much optimistic view in this case, alexandra yuryevich the fact is that and if we look at the red lines, as westerners themselves saw them a year ago or even six months ago, then all those deliveries that are being carried out or planned at the moment. they were unthinkable last february. of course they were unthinkable even in the summer and why why is this nobody changing why is changing of the look they believe? they do not consider that russia over the past year, over these 11 months of a special operation, that the russian army, despite the fact that it is numerically increased due to partial mobilization, which despite this due to the loss of weapons due to problems with logistics and other other entrepreneur. says she's getting weaker. they believe that the russian economy. wait, now a second. i will finish. they believe that the risks that they took into account a year ago and six months ago. now they are decreasing. they pronounce this argument

victor you pronounce. the main thing is you bring the main thing going on, some things that still full ago were unimaginable . and let me give you a mirror that say some people from whom it was absolutely impossible to hear this six months ago. here, mr. arrestovich, some people call the talking head, someone calls the talking asshole, so somehow, as soon as he resigned from the post of adviser to the head of zelensky’s sheep, he began to say such things that it was generally impossible to imagine from him. then it started making excuses. let's talk about it january 20th. aleksey arrestovich posted a video where he talks about strangely that kiev is losing its chances for victory and ukraine is completely a puppet controlled by the west. i can say what i want. if everyone thinks that we are guaranteed to win the war, then it is very unlikely that since the fourteenth there has already ceased to be like that, it seems to be very strong. what do you think the president's assessment is from there? poland that he not only

told her about those who decide, that it is generally unknown whether she will survive ukraine or she just said it like that or he, on the basis of some information, they tell the truth the very next day the arrest officer changed the plate and began to explain, that he was misunderstood, and the words about the loss of ukraine were taken out of context. and in general, all this is the machinations of russian propagandists. i won't even take it apart. i'll just say a few things. the first did not lose the second to win the war became more difficult because putin desperate does not want to lose. the double makes an extra effort is not to lose it. looks like he backtracked on his words. and rustem died, the head of the state property fund of ukraine is better known to us, as a member of the ukrainian delegation at the negotiations with russia a few days ago in american edition. the daily beast published an article saying ukraine is preparing for an offensive by russia and it is scheduled, it seems, as if in february, and there they died thinking it’s not a fact that his country is ready for such an offensive ukraine lacks ammunition and weapons. we

fight the russians with our bare hands, russian troops surround us at 240°, attack from the black sea from belarus, the lugansk and don regions, but the very next day, following the example of aristovich , a miraculous transformation took place from his words. simply refused the american edition. ddt has published a text that allegedly outlines a plan for a possible escalation of russian aggression against ukraine in an interview with the daily beast, i did not give any forecasts, the war with russia will last almost 9 years. we are ready for any scenario. we will expose and win and not lazen. it is clear that they refute after the scandal, but nevertheless, they say things to say that are official or close to an official person. in ukraine, it was impossible even there 3-4 months ago that everything is going according to plan so quickly, a company and an arrest officer are being prepared. this the second echelon of the servants of the people, who will take over

the entire electorate, which was considered conditionally weighted and very conditionally speaking military operations. sorry during the war . they are planning some kind of election campaign. i got it right sooner or later. they will still have to hold it, so to speak, to confirm their significant importance regina and the fact that they are really people's choices. and now, uh, uh, and history is now from scratch. it just takes 15% from the start. it says closed sociologists. study plus or minus 2% is already 15. excuse me. for god's sake, let's pretend this doesn't apply to you. i wanted to read once that everyone knows that every country has its own idiots. but when the idiots have their own country, this is the first time in the history of mankind. when you tell me that an arrest officer takes 15% of the vote from the spot. voters are a country of idiots, but i just can’t talk about the fat of the country at the beginning of his career in combat

. in general, in any case, people know you don’t want to say at all that renov is just as smart and talented and has a doctorate in style. no, no, andrey vladimirovich, what can i say about zhirinovsky at the beginning of his political career, about what a shock the kremlin was. in 1993, they forgot to pass, let's move on to the topic, how would he already take 15% of the russian-speaking electorate. behind him plus he is excellent, worked like a psychotherapeutic story. he gave people hope, he reassured people, then he absorbed them from hating it, they say the situation has no political science is very competently, well- built. story. the story with rammstein is also built, because indeed, this is a significant political story, as they said on rammstein, 52 countries joined the pro-

ukrainian and, accordingly, the anti-russian military coalition, which is already well-defined , they give a lot of things, well, pr is hanging, it is very good oh, leopards are fur-bearing animals. oh, they will give fur-bearing animals or not, they will give fur-bearing animals. oh yes, the germans will go or not. it doesn't matter what matters, what matters is that, but they are preparing to attack. they announce it for some reason spring, but i don’t know of a single successful offensive that was in advance. well, it won’t be in the spring, but it will be when it happens and it will be sudden, and they are ready for it. b. they fully support and, in my opinion, initiate not the removal of crimea from the brackets, but a direct history with crimea, what? let's go ukrainian. take the crimea and the concept. first, you solve problems on the mainland, and then on the peninsula, the americans simply canceled it. well, and third, of course, they give a lot of weapons, and leopards, but it doesn’t

matter, just leopards. this is also commercial project, spain greece uh, the main storage of these leopards, hungary has now ordered 44 leopards. they don't fight. now they will be thrown onto the battlefield and it may turn out that these leopards. this is a commercial myth, including, why should the germans destroy their commercial myth, they will wait, they will wait until the abrams myth is destroyed, for example, an old video, but, nevertheless. first, the myth, uh, the great leopards have already been destroyed, because so many leopards have been burned. uh, syrian kurds, armed by an order of magnitude 10 orders of magnitude worse, than the russian army. clearly not. you can , of course, say that the turkish military did not grow their hands from the right place, but you can’t say that, turkey is one of the strongest arenas, an order of magnitude stronger than the ukrainian one. and so, that this myth has already been destroyed about that, you see, he said, yes, why, and now they are supplying what they did not supply in

february in march. this is in fact, with all due respect to the video, it is illogical, because if the russian army, and now it is weak and in general, it makes the most sense to invest such huge money in the supply of serious, in order to crush not it will not work to put pressure on, because attempts to put pressure on russia will lead, just to the use of russia's nuclear weapons, as the medvedevr said and so on mr. volodin was polished absolutely correctly. this is a different matter. the fact is that since february why were there no such deliveries in march. they were sure that these were the cruelest red lines that they would fly across, they were still there for five impressions of vladimir putin's speech when he said that if you intervene you will get, so that, as never before in life, they received your story, then it turns out that they are sure that we are the key for this, we, as it were, will not be it in that and problems, what a spring and summer

their confidence is. uh, their faith in what we will give them, it has evaporated, because the speech, and not step by step to expose. yes, i mean, he really speaks to the weaknesses of the army. the problem here is not the army. if there is nothing to answer us. no, i won't answer. and the conventional armed forces for this kind of thing responds with unusual armed forces, there should be no tank wedges, to warsaw this will not meet nuclear. it’s necessary in this case, please, because calm down or they respond with force actions outside nato territory, for example, by blowing up transport cables that are here between europe yes, a cable here, no matter how we respond, and they have this

confidence, so they now feel comfortable. why did mr. medvedev's statement just appear, which someone could rise up as another, as it were, passage of the former president, and then it was supplemented. well softer, but the same mr. volodin's statements that we will use nuclear weapons. in the case of crossing the red books, and the rank of arms supplies it was quite clearly and correctly written exactly in order to sober up a particularly hot question. this is a very interesting question. will they believe it ? we'll take a break now. and from this question, maybe the second should. yes , we just need to stop losing often i will continue. well, now let's see how it goes. three children of one mother were actually born and grew up. well, legally, they simply do not exist the latest documents. there are only references, but these references are not

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enemies believed or did not believe in our position along the red lines. yes, because that's for the past year. well, how would this relationship obviously change. let's listen to a fresh old fascist who, as vanya says, considers himself the head of european diplomacy. it's true, he said something like that, there's nothing to add, nothing to subtract. i don't know what happens sometimes. why are they making statements like this? give us please. russia is a big country, it is used to fighting to the end. she used to almost lose and then recover everything she did. that with napoleon she did it with hitler it would be absurd to think that russia lost the war or that its military is incompetent, so right now it is necessary to continue arming ukraine, it is necessary to provide ukraine with material and military assistance so that ukrainians can not only defend themselves, but also take the initiative

on the battlefield. well, what is this? this is a man who started correctly, but then played well in the base to talk about something else. well , apparently, what he really understands, but it's too late for the russians to give an answer. moreover, they give an answer in such a way that the attackers endure the load defeat, but, but then yes, we still need to remind me. eh, probably. i remember such a detached one, but when in the soviet union they wrote some big articles on seditious topics. it was necessary to put some kind of statue of lenin to become useful. yes, he is the same, he speaks correctly, but then a phrase is required. we must continue to help ukraine, but everyone pays attention to the first phrase. yes, he does not finish it. he does not say that it is necessary to negotiate with the russians because it will be completely seditious semyonov like a shellender, yes, what is remembered, just the last yes , they are the first, yes napoleon is the first phrase

here, in fact. it seems to me, my opinion, that after all the west has heard us. well, those who wanted to, at least those who could still hear, they heard, because it's good. yes, of course, but because again, medvedev said very correctly that a great nuclear power cannot lose an existential war, a war where its existence is at stake point everything and then we will do it. conclusions after which it is said, wait, well, after all that has been said again. oh, yes, i would like to return it, after all, all these salami liver sausages in general, that's all, that's all, this is some kind of gastronomic technology. they understand us , they understand moscow, what do you think or not? or they still have some idea of ​​what, probably, we will do. that's

how they are, let's do it. so, that's it, that's all confusion, of course, in the minds after all, uh, to understand, do they understand us? let's try to understand, listen, putin putin is not bluffing. here they are, at least they will listen and understand, in order to understand how they think. we need to hear the same barrel again. let's not logic is important for him, but it is important to convey what you think and act out what the head of the russian ministry of foreign affairs lavrov said, which means that he beats hitler napoleon but brings his thought, which is quite understandable to him by logic. so you are saying that russia has already lost. let's put up with them. no, russia has not lost yet. let's supply tanks. this is the pure logic of the barrels now of germany and i yesterday, well i mean, i'm constantly looking. hmm, there is a specialized chat er for the german military, mostly retired officers, and they usually talk about the technical issues of the

military at a fairly high level, they even have their own language. in general, it was designed for this. so i was amazed, not one of the dozens of comments contained either a word or a thought that it was possible not to supply tanks and that in general some kind of danger emanated from russia. i was really amazed by this circumstance with the other did not understand. i also did not understand, that is, you need to substitute it so you need supply. well, they all say, it is necessary to supply to describe the technical possibilities of the idea that russia should be afraid. in this respect, no one has any comments. no, the point is that russia answered. they would n't think they didn't think russia would respond. on the other hand, there were several comments from acting german military dignitaries who are well informed about both the state of the buddha realm and the possibility. crossing the red line, these people have definitely heard in recent months, but they make the same decision of this. not the fact

that there and all sorts of people are sitting on the couch . alexander is yes, they are always more diva expert. uh, how to say, determined determined than acting uh phrase. eh, schelz himself is behind him a group that is still among all german atlanticists today, still less atlanticist than others, and they, of course, by no means want a serious deep conflict between europe and russia, and they understand that the main task of ukraine is to draw europe into such a war now, so they in this sense, they are very careful, but for now it means, for now, when it leaves, we’ve been talking all day today about how you gradually know how the fox put one paw, then the third one then doesn’t. psychology will not answer. for that. and here is the answer. they won’t answer this either, so here this

natural caution is melting away. and if you rewind again a little bit back, when we just started talking about the red leaders, you can’t get indignant, because we never got like we should have been when here are our numerous red lines. unfortunately, we crossed one after another, as we should have been wrong. now they answered seriously and we can and are ready to answer, sorry crimea, yes, the crimean bridge, when it took place already after the belgorod region was shelled, then it exploded and the nord stream was blown up, so maybe you didn’t answer in the same way on the nord stream. but why did the crimean bridge turn out to be a lot of serious analytical work being carried out not only. i know i get it, i get it, yeah so yes, it's clear, it's optics. we have a

distorted one in you, including you say, here they stepped on our foot. let's cut off their hand immediately, because i stepped on your foot. well, a normal state, an adult state with a properly organized general staff, does not do this, because the war must be won, not satisfied. eh, the feeling of revenge is still wrong to deal with today, therefore, when our country is reproached by our military-political leadership, there is little hardness less than determination. guys in last year. we started a world war. you have little determination to start, we started the world war wash, how much we do not start today? we have a defensive war, but we started to defend ourselves, which means that i had a different idea before, but the fact that ukraine actually lost 2/3 of the army that it had at the end of february last year. these are not answers for you that we have actually reset the economy of ukraine with our

air - this, of course, is not an answer. no , that's normal. we are not you, we are not about the place, not about ukraine, even i can see you, we are you we are waiting for you, please. we listen to you, i 'll pretend that i swallowed your insult about the fact that i wear optician glasses. i have a distorted listen, they asked you. about what. about the fact that our western so-called partners, but in fact enemies and rivals, do not feel that the crossing of some line , everything you say will bear consequences, exactly as it is rightly said. this is the same fox they are and i talked about it, they move their fingers a little bit, their legs move forward. it 's normal work everyday they move, but how, but it is necessary to do it in time. well, yes , a second. well, god, the speech, and here the meaning is very important, what is it? if you have a goal, you are going to it, then you should not be beaten in the way of provocation. in this, i understand,

yes. yes, yes, and no need barrel, in my opinion, absolutely clearly said. we have already seen that russia has a tendency to rise from the ashes. let's not allow this now, let's not jump on the old rake, but it is said absolutely clearly and they can already see absolutely that they are not afraid of you. they realized that nuclear weapons were used twice in hiroshima and nagasaki. it was not used anywhere else at the time when gorbachev came to power, 66,000 nuclear warheads were in the world. now 1.500. apparently this is a weapon that already has no meaning even as a containment system, since force me to do something female reality. yes, this is it. sorry, military experts write that the lord is god and the last resort is dead.

further, what they need now is the number one task to deprive russia of its status. uh, superpowers and get one enemy super power. china with this task they systematically. uh, in their opinion , they are successfully coping, that is, they are going according to their plan. the americans are happy with everything, in my opinion, they have won in full, and in the trouble of ukraine and russia is also unlikely to reap any passage on nuclear weapons, we immediately take it aside , because commenting on it. eh, seriously impossible. but as for the fact that they follow their own scenario and do what they need, we can now hostfinance. listen. this is the canadian finance minister, the granddaughter of a ukrainian collaborator, by the way, who thinks that it is necessary to fight. well , she honestly says it is necessary to fight so that our economy, which is now saving their economy, rises again. let's we're not talking about doing ukraine a

favor by supplying arms to ukraine, supplying ukraine with enough money so that it can win the war in the long run, in our own interests. we do not control the new coronavirus infection. we do not control global supply chains, we do not control whether flawless disinflation awaits us or not? the only thing we can do is where we have practical leverage. we can help ukraine win clearly and clearly , if we achieve this, if this happens this year, it will be a huge stimulus for the global economy , openly, so that we rise up, she needs to grub russia herself, but not really. she says rather the world economy. and here she is lying, yes, the world economy. they consider. here are the best favorites only for them, they, as usual, confuse their wool state. we are talking about the fact that it is beneficial to america and canada, it is categorically unprofitable in europe because

capital and goods are fleeing from europe - it’s like money is running from europe to america to where it is more stable away from the war and where you can achieve low prices relative to domestic us energy prices, while europe will be bad, but canada will be good in the war, out of the crisis, like a video at this time. yes they are not, if you look canada is one of the most ardent. yastrebov in the ukrainian question something was constantly being prepared, damn it, and even in those who were ready to go ahead in the matter of confiscation, there were no red lines. for them. again, no, there are canada canada decides decides the americans decide the germans a little bit and a little bit and some others they. let's stop today with the red lines just a little bit. we 'll have to change the subject, we'll be back on the air in a few minutes.

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, the place where everything becomes clear. we continue to build e conversation. that's when alexander yuryevich here ran into my optics. and then he explained that we, well, how would you like this , yes, and, from my non-professional point of view, the military operation should go on. like this, like this, and like this, yes, but the ministry of defense general staff has its own ideas, absolutely disagree, more professional and than mine, and they are building an operation. like this, like this, alexander, we shouldn’t be there somehow about revenge, you said that they did it to us, that is, we shouldn’t do it. here's some revenge. moreover, here this is our conversation. we attributed the exceptional to the west to the nato members there to everyone else. and

now it works. we're back to what we were talking about last week when i was torturing our guests here. here are the ukrainians themselves, so the citizens of ukraine are ukrainian society. they are as far as here they are who can they somehow count on them, can they be persuaded or not? let's talk about this, but, because uh, it turns out that means if we do not take revenge alexandrovich yes, but we conduct our special operation according to all the rules of military science westerners do not understand when we will really answer. they do not feel this red line, as far as the ukrainians themselves are concerned. here the situation is complicated by the fact that they themselves are there to each other, i don’t know how they constantly feed this hatred that we say russophobia russophobia. it seems to me that the word is already a term that does not convey anything at all. it's some kind of banality there, it needs to be somehow different, because it's just real hatred, which every day is pumped up

and pumped up every day. give us the first material, please, a provocation attraction in the spirit of a jew of the time has appeared in the lviv museum of science. visitors are offered to drown a model of a russian military cruiser in an aquarium, moscow, in order to get moral satisfaction that they have an undisguised pleasure to go. rashists new ukrainian heroes perpetuate their images in folk art with figurines of ukrainian soldiers, many decorated christmas trees with emotion. someone else mriya soldiers with cats preaching in russian

in ukraine launched a mobile application cleanse the church, in which parishioners are encouraged to knock on unreliable ministers, the fight against russian influence has not been spared. even the verkhovna rada believed to call a hare a hare exclusively gray. this news ticker appeared on the tv channel, 1. +1 and just call him a hare, gray. what are you smoking there? this is generally thresh hare gray. he is no longer rusak at the time, as in russia, a new film. cheburashka breaks all records in cash disputes in ukraine, a fairy-tale character was called an occupier and a flash mob began against an unknown science of the beast , posters began to appear in kiev schools with crossed-out cheburashka and the inscription look cheburashka vali in your roska

. read it yourself, and what does it mean that ukrainian is not candy, they are a mad bee, you know. so this is all this madness. look at the bee, nikolaevich, will it eventually lead to the fact that we can to get something like the arabs of the israeli permanent conflict, only naturally on a large scale takes into account the size of the conflicting parties there. no, well, you understand this, firstly, in order to get a conflict, you need

to create all the appropriate conditions for ukrainian confrontation, it doesn’t even have the same roots as history has. hello this listen, how uh? no, you understand? we are preparing you, we say, all this , of course, will really wash off terribly. let's, let's understand. this is what is this this is what is rendered this so to speak, something that is a trend. this is absolutely tracing paper on cisco germany. this is what it should look like, but when you break the state system, then, accordingly, its ideological machine falls with it, and then it depends on how you treat people, you will certainly treat them in the same way, like a drug addict. you will want to say that we need to conquer the territories that you will occupy or you will have a friendly regime for you, you will certainly break this system through the knee. a hmm they have something in their gods, that is, as you will understand, we are also talking about germany germany lost the war, that it

began some kind of subversive activity, there was something there, but andrei nikolaevich at an embryonic level and now we have unliberated territories. let's be honest. there is some necessary activity a week, so as not to look. yes there cars and so on, from which you speak. let's be honest, it's not so much based on the ideological level. how much on marginal financial is this it’s also a well-known fact, i’ll say it again, that firstly, again, in this sense, from the very beginning of a special military operation, we didn’t have this very program, because we went like that. this is the first time we come, we leave the same leaders here. we don't interfere. we remove, that is, that is, the very message of identification. in practice, it was not reflected here, that is, what it should look like in people, this was really the question. you come and you start even activists instead of nazi organizations people did not understand the sense of detaining, they acted freely. if you come you occupy the territory. there, a denocification should be carried out on a strict scale of the person who occupied e, places are visible places of the

power apparatus in the ideological apparatus. they really should receive general tickets, and they should not appear anywhere else. this is actually a long- developed tool that was worked out by the same americans. we have much more. i, you yourself remembered the americans, they will call then if we work. the example of the americans in the liberated territories, will not this bitterness in people even more power even more in normal people. this is natural, it cannot cause meaning, because what we show is not a conversation about normal people. if if there are some, as it is called, filtration measures, and so on. it doesn't look good, people see that someone is listening and looking at you. you are not a traitor either. well, when did you feel, and when did you work with terrorists in the chechen republic, there were ultra-active events, of course, someone was identified there, who extremists were identified. and that it works perfectly fine in two ways , or downright hard, really. here is all this somehow to break or to allocate a very large amount of time and

systematically for this some big one. there to explain to explain how alexei gennadievich loves to do it. so yes . listen, i, frankly, have no idea how to break western ukraine over the knee. he lives there, well, okay. here in these areas there, well, 10 million people, that we well, let's count there lviv ternopil volyn , you can even say so, and there closer to the center, and go to ivan frankovsky and vinnitsa there. maybe listen to what to do with these people in life to break through the knee. and we will not physically be able to put them in prison, no one will be able to put them in, because it means they profess some kind. where do we put them where do we put these 10 million people. well, what about them. they are always so destroyed to restore, and they have always been like that, it's not true. you want say alexei gennadievich. here is the analogy that andrei ivanovich used at the beginning of the israeli conflict about the arabs. this is conditional hatred, but another word that has not

subsided for years. it is possible the sixth side. there is hatred. she is present. yes, this is hate on our part. well, so far, the israeli conflict does not pull on the arabs, but we do too. there are so to speak, uh, crazy people from my point of view, crazy, yes, who also sow this enmity hatred. uh, rezh beya, ukrainians are added to kvsu, there are others, and we also have because they are among the bloggers and even among the experts who go on television there. this is also there. there is no need to deny this with us, of course, it is less with us, it is less, because look what is happening with them there was such an anecdote. kuchma told a play on words, which means i'm at home and glad. why are you at home? and we are glad. and why is she happy, because she didn't think? because she doesn't think. and what does this mean, in fact, if we move on to serious things to what is now, of course, the first plan of emotions people, really these emotions. there are these emotions. other emotions

of western ukraine, which have always existed, are being sown, and they are now spreading to both central and eastern ukraine. and we need to work with these. and how to work with emotions, well, to explain something, how to deduce, how to bring to the radio from these emotions is very impossible and almost impossible, but we have nothing left to do but try to explain and take into account the soviet experience, what's up the soviet union then how is it? actually, he stole the same, drove through the forests, endowed them with territory, medals of something and that you yourself now know that they always turn out like that. the soviet union did not work. it is necessary to admit one simple thing, that over the past 11 months, and the territory of ukraine, which is located to the west of the donbass, has become completely anti-russian. everything no, everything is

not true. you are sure of this, it is absolutely not true in a couple of minutes to answer, as for western ukraine, i once again gave an example. my uncle then the colonel at the kvd was 9 years old he cleaned out western ukraine the result of everything he said that it was useless. therefore, to think that we are strong there, that khrushchev was a problem yesterday, that we can change the psychology of ukraine now by force is a huge mistake. this will lead to the fact that we can force this psychology is impossible, because we will have nothing but a way out, except for a repressive policy. i understood. let's listen to these arguments. i think that a person in general didn’t even study russian history at school, that is, we didn’t have any conflicts with moscow either. novgorod, not with a door in our history

, there was no cutting off, there were no ukraines with us, which were in fact completely in other areas. they are where today 's ukraine is now. we didn't have any. the problems are not with kazan or astrakhan. we have never fought, in general, in any other territories we have never returned a small one. there has never been a cultural renaissance. we did not enter into the golitsa never took. the caucasus has never been measured, nothing has ever worked out for us, that is, a country, but it turned out to be one sixth the size of the whole world is completely random or never happened at all. these are all some myths so good. we did not make a probe. we have never succeeded so that in problems here we don’t repeatedly have such a problem as exists today in ukraine to solve even in the time of alexei mikhailovich when we got the present time of vladimir, these are the arguments

that there is everything without exception, yes , all sorts of anti-russian german and so percent, 10 screaming, yes. that's right, or they work. you are for money, what are you on now are you based when you say this on your feelings? or do you have any publics, right? i read and see how it all happens. i see, in fact, how the rhetoric is changing, how such key speakers, how the arrestovich change theirs, you believe him. i believe you some conclusions from what he says, he pecks, a speaker or a talking ass. let's make up our minds, a person who is careful and takes care of himself first of all sees that already working for the administration of ukraine is not comme il faut for his future, that it can be dangerous for him, so he'd better jump away from these people already. you see they discussed. yes, here are the previous parts for us here, as it were, here are your opponents, and the absent ones will say that this

is all an ecological story. yes , a polytechnological project, and it is a spoiler that will delay some votes for zelensky in their next election. well , too. yes, that's why i think that these are all the resources of changing the territory of ukraine borders. well, how much territory will fall into the real of the russian state will only be about the russian territories, of course, if we cannot solve this problem, but radically yes, in those territories where the kiev regime remains, everything will still be. let's buy a piece by piece, gradually you wanted the plot. yes, to show the plot, clinging to the words of andrey vladimirovich fedorov that all of ukraine that is not donbass is absolutely hostile, uh, to us people, let us now show you the material piece by piece, if you remember, that city in the kharkiv region where our troops occupied at the beginning of the special operation, then within the framework of certain specific withdrawal of troops. we left there some attitude

towards us based, again, on the second material that we have. it remains very good, even at the end of last week , mayor kupinsky took. andrei is conversational, complained to the publication. icons of pro-russian sentiment in the kharkiv region, supposedly since february last year, the consciousness of the people there has hardly changed. and this besedina is extremely sad. in addition, ukraine has not been able to disconnect the region from russian television, which only complicates the situation, and for people under russia, life was simply easier. russia had russian money. at least how much my mother had 6 months of salary. she got at least some money, we will go for russian money. at least they bought something, but now all the shops are closed. now you don't turn anything. even here the bread will be written off with icons ukrainian authorities suspect that local residents report the deployment and movements of ukrainian soldiers to russian troops located less than 10 km away, and the ukrainian military, allegedly. they are even afraid to accept food from

local residents for fear of poisoning. podkupinsky, an hour from the border with russia, a ukrainian volunteer was handing out sweets to children and noticed that some of them were taking photos of him on their phones. they send to the russian telegram channels. and perhaps another time, the volunteer saw in the shock detachments how the villagers refused the help of the ukrainians, they still miss russian, kiev, in order to overcome all this, until they came up with nothing better than criminal cases, for collaborationism and filtration measures in these territories . edition. ukraine ru reports that the former was accused of treason the chief engineer of the kupinsky bakery for selling bread to russian soldiers, and the rt channel found out that in order to deal with the traitors, kiev sent a merchant to a punitive unit where, according to them , some battalion of neo-nazis and former football fans go, in addition to the defense brigade. in fact, the most important thing

is to prevent e. the fact that everything so that the criminals remain unpunished, because this is a 100% mine. this is simply the most important mine, which can be, as we know from kharkov, which is already starting to let go people whose guilt is proven begins, as letting go is considered to be something conducive to reconciliation. no, it promotes war. here they argued. we are now with andrei nikolaevich regarding filtration measures. well , he is an example when he comes with the so -called filtration measures. this weakens people even more, because again , sorry about the kharkiv region regularly. i read that she is the level of pro-russian. there are even more than in the kherson region. i don't know how much you can trust these telegram e-messages. but this is regularly forwarded at once on all points briefly. okay, let's go, so first we can really offer something to these territories and we have elections by and large

. no, because we are now conducting a special- special military operation that will refuse to continue. a continuation that we can't refuse, but we don't have our own ideology. there is an ideology there. she is primitively tough nazi, but we don’t have it. we should have it all-russian dialogues. we are all russians, kiev is the mother of russian cities. we have general culture. history is a value, that's what mikhail borisovich once rented, like books, these are people who lived in kiev, the second most of the people who live in these territories. she, in principle, belongs to the class of inhabitants who adapt to any government, but objectively, these people are still closer to us. they speak russian they uh tend to be more orthodox to our culture. even this woman who laid out the toys there. she spoke russian. here is the third always in any war conflicts , methods of negative and positive stimulation are always used. well, to put it simply, inside the gingerbread, but you know, here they showed the kupyansky ones. these are already shoes, a yellow blouse. i remember immediately in the word bought in the frame, when dumped into a pile of murdered gigantic inhabitants and zhorin is relish.

here is this cannibal, nazi cattle. well, that's not how we behave. yes, but some filtering measures certainly need to be done. this is a necessity that is present in absolutely any conflict. in any. of course these people. if you are to blame for the fact that you aimed a ukrainian rocket at someone, people died there, i shoot on the spot. yes, and if you are just a supporter, if you are just a supporter there, i don’t know what other punishment, there are different punishments, and so on, but we didn’t punish anyone simply, because this person is ideological, we were born, there are precedents when people were simply exchanged population in general, millions were exchanged between india and china; as for western ukraine, there are no ten million there, there and several times before the war. we are separate well very simply mikhailovich, you said them yes, i recently read the news because of the zaporozhye region, three people were released who were aiming ukrainian artillery at our cities. that's why we let them

go in ukrainian, our repressive apparatus was carried out. and what is the rationality here? and this is the war, wait, they were killing their fellow citizens, maybe even the people of their neighbors. just at what stage to just let them go. what do we need to take? uh, those who shot at our soldiers in captured, and then we exchange some of them. this is a complicated story, as far as the gunners who were released are concerned. by the way, i wrote about this in my telegram channel and responding to all this emotionally hang this central square. hmm no one is needed. you see, you yourself said earlier this is a banned organization. if something is necessary for respecters, the same tribunal, but with it was recognized as criminal. organization from top to bottom with all

applications, unlike the wehrmacht, unlike the civilian population, as for the civilian population, rewind, uh, a second ago, normal procedure, first, let's not uh. i urge everyone not to use today's emotionally loaded terms, such as filtration measures, not d-nazification, impersonal, the machine works no hatred. everything is quiet. all procedures are there. we had a partisan movement in germany and after 1945 there was no sabotage for a very short time. do you know why? now we have two versions on the liberated territory, because ukraine still exists, and germany was no longer ukraine and will not be, and then in russia there is no normal soulless population. the machine works, they called a questionnaire for aleksandrovich, three parts, no communion in the camp , no pier, no work, and so on, alexander loves to get to the bottom of your words, you. they said many times that we need to reach the

western border, if we reach the western borders of destruction, well, there will be more now. well, you must agree that there will not be as much as it was now. and if kharkov will be, and if kharkov will be defended, how will mariupol be allowed, won’t it multiply hatred, but in kirovograd already, most likely, there will be no cherkasy, e, alexander answered my question, their army will end. this will breed hatred. uh, to some extent yes, emotionally in operational perception. yes , and then it will all pass, because wait, yes, you are the very first one here in this studio who said that the hatred is already outrageous and will only be loved, no, please, i’m not sure, because why did the germans instill a sense of guilt. when these feelings have victims, well

, i'm sorry, i don't know, and everyone and everyone is offended ukrainians. do not make me repeat what i said, there was no feeling of guilt about the donbass about six months a year ago . there wasn't, and there won't be. no, i'm not talking about the sensual. i'm talking about the feeling of being a victim, they're victims. i don't know what's all about ukraine yes of course i liked them. uh, i liked the historical ones with mikhail borisovich a. because everything that he listed, a went practically through the most severe repression, if e russia is ready at the end of the operation, well, almost to the operation of genocide. oh, and let's admit to such things like relocation. uh, tens of millions of people in siberia, our opponents are right. we are dozens, but for this we really need, uh, well,

how many there are left to answer yours, yes, a remark with facial expressions, nikolaevich now, just a second, then, uh, what is, uh, collaborators and what they were, let's say, they are there in mariupol, in kharkiv, they are always in any one that cooperates with us, but the point is that here it goes according to very many parameters. and in general, until then, and the conflict is national in nature. and while he predominantly has a national character, if you eliminate this one, well, i don’t know, the main reason was conditionally said here, ukraine yes, well, these are the goats who are now speaking the ukrainian state there and at the same time it all disappears there their appointee. well, i don’t know, well, in plain sight, let’s say, yes, brains in the good sense of the stomach. eh, that's

pretty serious. well, yes. and by the way, not always effective. i don't think they can be brainwashed. why minority report, they'll fill in so well now obey and so on. they will be so. let's from historical germany in 45. the germans did not feel any guilt. oh, when our troops came, the american germans fully said, oh, we surrender werwolf and the germans surrendered werwolf. these poor werewolfs were shocked when they were turned in by their neighbors, so it's all right. we must know one thing. and you don’t know why, by the way, not to take it into account, because you have already done this, and you are all the population of ukraine in our country, in another country in any country. in in general, 80-90% 90% are conformists, of course,

who are under the influence of media manipulation propaganda that control the state. well, or if she does not control the state, she is under the influence of foreign oil. well, then, these are the kirdy of the state, respectively, it is pumping for a long time stubbornly in one direction. now ukraine, the ukrainian population is pumped up quite specifically, there is an enemy with whom the military conflict of marriage should be fraternalized. uh, must be barbaric it is much easier for a german game to prove to a person than, uh, fascists come and go from the german people, it remains just to say, kill the germans. it pumps up goes this propaganda goes goes goes goes goes goes. in the event that this propaganda does not exist, but there will be another, these 80-90% will very quickly. even in spite of the other factors that vanya mentioned, there are houses destroyed there. of course, and

there will be. yes, there will only be, but it will stop. why because, first of all, there will be such propaganda, these 80-90% they are not going to fight, they are going to live. yes 10%. 10% are not going to live, say mi mi surnames, because in the forty-fifth to fifty-third years in western ukraine , 40,000 40,000 40,000 civilian officials were killed and so on in its time. i want to say that the upa was forbidden to flourish after the military un, now we have 200,000 people. this is maximum. in fact , less than 200,000 people from the population of even western ukraine is not even 10%.

let's take a break now, here's the rest of the time. we talked about western ukraine, as it were, as we planned. operates in the city a cunning professional painfully faster than one person will find us.

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territories to the russian kingdom in the second half of the 17th century, western ukraine was called the ukrainian territories west of the dnieper , which remained part of the polish kingdom, however, the poles themselves, volhynia and galicia, which included the current lviv ternopil ivano-frankivsk region , called their eastern borders and ordered active propaganda as a result, in 1939 , when, according to the secret protocol of the molotov-ribbentrop pact, western ukraine was ceded to the soviet union in lvov , less than 8% of the inhabitants already spoke the main language was polish, it was spoken by 63% of the population, of course, were categorically against the new government. and the mood among the ukrainians was divided by a part of them who welcomed the advice, but already very quickly. this is especially true for the ukrainians. it is clear that stalin's western ukraine is not the ukraine that everyone dreamed of. people wanted ukrainian statehood on the territory of galina and there was

considerable disappointment even before these territories joined the soviet union, ukrainian nationalists actively fought against the polish authorities after the great patriotic already soviet power for a long time could not eradicate bandera. the remnants of the oun-pa nkvd defended the underground until the end of the fifties in 2014. after the maidan euro, ukraine openly announced its course for joining the eu and nato, according to polls already in those years in western ukraine, such a decision would be supported by a majority of at least 50%, well, the results of the entire ukrainian population census in 2001 . this is the only census that ukraine conducted in 1991 indicated that in the regions of western ukraine, the russian language consider less than 2% to be native. well, here's this dispute. e, where to, to what extent should we move forward? well, until we get there and get all this absolutely exactly, and so

on. well, it's good that we are now sharing here with you or in the studio. yes, but from my point of view, absolutely to hell with her. she was never russian pro-russian and so on. this is not our territory. our people don't live there. this time. and secondly, i have a suspicion. i may be mistaken that even that notorious collective west really and now believes that this is some kind of a red line and will never allow, so to speak, that russian troops enter western ukraine and for them western ukraine, their part is a legitimate part of them, if they have here and i what, if they have here, they themselves perfectly understand everything about kharkov and about odessa and penetrates and about kherson, they actually understand everything that this is, among other things, more about the pro-russian part. i don’t know, it’s inside themselves, despite any statements, but they understand just as well about western ukraine one more important thing about these 80-90%

passive transformer population, which will be yes, conformists, who listen, well , now at least 100,000 people died, there are 100,000 people, as far as i understand the armed forces of ukraine and let's multiply by 10. well, well, in the sense, the circle is some kind of close close circle of ten people , mom dad, considering ukraine godfather, godfather, and so on neighbors. this is a million people, well, a million people who truly have the right to experience emotions, because their loved ones died fighting russia. not a fact, i'm sorry, i can immediately pour it. i just want to remind you one thing at one time and german chancellor ferger. came to a cemetery in france knelt down. there his brother died, i'm afraid, by the french. vogel felt no hatred for the french. he established very close ties with the french and built. apart from this key key story, even going into who fueled the russophobic and nationalist sentiments

in western ukraine throughout this journey, those who lived in canada, the united states of america in western europe, and so on. they went there and from there they fueled hatred for russia in western in western ukraine 's ability is really something yes, hence these roots. there, you first understand mikhail borisovich’s hand, what a problem it is when we talk about stories, that ukrainian science is on the territory of the ukrainian soviet socialist republic there, it means, uh, some nationalist things were kindled because of migration, so the problem is that there was ussr, that is, people considered themselves ukrainians when they were told that your soviet ukrainian, your advice is wrong , correct canadian, i'm not talking about it, but you might think. and when the soviet country fell apart and it was already possible not only to think about it, but they already demanded to admit that what fell apart is

wrong, but the correct canadian one, we will bring it to you and bring it. and here's what's happening now. this is a newly brought ukrainianness, but it could not appear without the formation of mass ukrainianism, which appeared in soviet times. the problem is that if there is a soil called ukrainian, of course, it will be loosened. so what do you propose to tear down all this soil, that whether? or something about the cultural layer of statehood, ukrainian as such, if we say that it is fake, that it is not historically confirmed by anything and, of course, it should not, that is, but if we admit that there are ukrainians, if we recognize that ukrainian statehood. this is something historical then incomprehensible. why did we start our michael then. it's clear. and mikhailovich let's imagine for a second that ukrainian statehood at some point does not exist in the future, these people who now inhabit the territory of western ukraine

they will pose a danger to us. even 99%, even in the same western ukraine, these are people who will attach themselves to any government. they are used to living under the poles. under the germans under the austrians under the soviet union, they will get used to living under any authority. but those who do not want a small number will leave. they said they would get used to living under any authority, but at the same time their own identity. here again, this very self. not hellish, but this does not mean that this is ukrainian identity, in fact, the problem is something modern state. ukraine that they did not even invent a common ukrainian identity. it has its own in each district, they do not understand each other joke about three ukrainians to criticize your historical editor.

who is this? let's a. you understand, when the question of western ukraine arises for us, we immediately have only one image. these are the thirties and forties of the territory of present-day western ukraine. they have a rich russophic tradition, of course, there was, for example, a community of three prominent figures ivan vagievich markyan. shashkevich. yakov golovatsky, who was called the russian trinity , is 1834. there was a rich woman. rusofolskaya, moscow-finnish movement, which

lived all the male adults, the population went to work. they lived there, mostly old people and children, and women also leave there, there is not such a large population of 10 million people, lviv region. it's all formal, attributed to people. yes, they will now. yes , when we talk about the fact that 80-90-95 85% are not interested in any ideology and will live where there is electricity. we do not deceive ourselves a little. no. no, in fact, when we are talking about the fact that there really was a struggle for 8 years. this is true with

bandera and understand everything. it must be understood that they fought with rather humane methods and it was with the local village, namely with the terrorists. as they would say now, and the terrorists are just from those forty, 36, in my opinion, after all, thousands of people were destroyed, and the uno at that time were civilians , including local ukrainians who took over the new government. and there is such just lived at the expense of terror and violence , you know, here the problem lies elsewhere. even here we are discussing. we run into the main problem. why do we say loyalty in ukraine because the ukrainian is exactly and western he is, looking at our operation. he can understand. here he asks about russia and what do you want us at all? you understand what a nationalist wants from his neighbor and from the russians. i want the russians to die, and i want to make a unitary ethnic-mono-ethnic state, and russia comes and says, we we'll leave you alone. e. and why did you come? russia, this is the project you want to propose for western ukraine. for eastern ukraine, we were somehow shy. you have to decide this for yourself, but inside they understand, there was no

unity and understanding for 30 years, because the east voted alone, and in one direction the west in the other there was never unity at all. they couldn't decide for themselves. we are now even starting to argue here. we are beginning to have a divergence. there are ukrainians on the level even with the head of state, like people there are no ukrainians like the people is identity there is no identity. we ourselves ca n’t decide on this, it’s really difficult to come, because in order to gain loyalty you need to understand that you bring voiceovers to them, what you and if if this continues, since now andrey nikolayevich, as you say, we don’t bring anything and leave you the opportunity to be yourself. won't it work so it'll be nurtured no? any need? they had something to bring in this case. not in this. you want, you understand that no, wait. now she doesn't want to answer. i just listen to you, and remember what was said before. well, that's how i argue. alexander nikolaevich said that it was you who came to them. well, it’s to know that these are also chicken eggs there, let’s consider who came to whom first, who was

fired upon and killed? yes, that's why i don't really understand why i'm answering what happened all these years. uh, donbass why do i have to bring blood to the people who started all this, because of the punishing sword, because otherwise andrey is in order andreyevich can we answer you with the piece that we have, because if we don’t bring anything, well, if we develop this idea, andrey nikolaevich, and we leave everything as it is, some will remain. if we leave everything as it is, we will have patience and we will be a little more attentive to the protection, law and order. we will get what he spoke about, konstantin alexandrovich years will pass. uh-huh, let's have a slice. let's see, he argues with you. this is a ukrainian writer. of course he will be with me. how they lived in the ussr after the war with germany with hatred with patience. i was 11 years old when i had to choose a foreign language at school, english or german. i said that i would never learn german because the germans killed my

grandfather. now there are tens of thousands of such children in ukraine whose parents or grandfathers were killed by the russians. this hate will last a generation or two. only time heals hate. i feel everywhere and not only in kiev it is and will be and will remain, while kiev continues to speak, mainly in russian, although there are many more bilingual youth, but hatred is probably the most common feeling towards russia. in ukraine then why should we argue that the attention that he says to willy’s daughter is yes, that is, he did not like germany as a child. and now he communicates well with her, what we need to do, except for the time, so that people will have these feelings after their end in ukraine did not experience. leave him alone. their feelings work. necessary. the first thing is to solve the tasks set by the special military operation, and the beginning of the conversation was the most correct the state of ukraine should disappear from the

political map, in general, therefore, there will be no nest that will feed saboteurs and eliminate everything else, where will it be? we don't know now. as i understand it, even in our military plans, the western border of ukraine is not now, because , perhaps , other countries will lay claim to western ukraine. maybe we will agree with this, but there should be no gaps between us and nato, so there should be a border. like this why would and how is the buffer? no trash and you passed this story in the 20th century, because at 20:00 in the 21st century, its information technology of any limit becomes a danger zone for neighbors. eh, how did it happen with ukraine, because what we are going with is very easy, dear comrades, to sit on our ass, we ensure our security, everything is for our security. we have to reach the border with nato. it will probably be on the level. eh, volyn ivano-frankivsk, maybe, or

maybe on the border with present-day poland , it is quite possible, but there should not be any gaps. and after that, denocification for 5-7 years is a process, uh, it will most likely drag on after that, that is, at this time propaganda we are changing the settings in secondary schools and kindergartens . uh, we give people work to restore eastern ukraine, please , everyone gets paid, everyone works. all in 10 years i will go to ukraine for a guarantee that they won’t shoot me from around the corner. alexander nikolaevich, in my opinion, did not agree with your plan. well, first of all, it slows me down a bit. this is the carve-up of the skin, to put it mildly, of an unkilled bear. here, but really actually i wanted to object to a friend's opponent about the conformist people who are outside their area. it's all the same lord and you, uh, never thought about

how to apply this tracing paper to russian society. and what do you get here then? why are you adapting to your stomach, but living in unloved ones, i gently tell you russia well, why are these tvs, but the thing is that this is all very fragile. because the soviet union as of, say, eighty-four, especially eighty-two, was very such a monolithic powers. and here outwardly, then it fell apart, so well, the soviet union did not fall apart because it was decided that way, er, 90% of the citizens who were in a state of conformism. it should have collapsed, because it rotted by and large , it was the start of what is happening in the soviet missile against the belarusians, they gasped on time when this front trinity was sitting there

and nothing would have fallen apart, well, if you shot this trinity, there would be rights in their foundations would not be and there is not to be hooked alexander nikolaevich about us a conformist and conformists. but there were certain values ​​that in the 1990s tried to give us a certain freedom, a certain tolerance, but the word didn’t get through. it all did not take root this one. as you say , a conformist, he somehow did not accept this, which means he did not take root. that’s just a little right away, of course, i imposed sexy bombs at least once in my life, you know, yes, you generally have at least one now, if you want, i’ll go and show you, but they are good to everyone who is there. here i was with us alone colleague. well, i do not know i will not call support. you say, impose sexual contacts together or not. here is a non-obtrusiveness, because he amused himself by

sneaking up on young correspondents from behind and jumping on them. that's how he grabbed the neck from the back. and just like that began to do his classifications were a bear cub. i was a bear. well, wait, why is that? why are you in a mink? yes, he says, because norkin will give me in the face. and these means they are young, which is important. they begin to be afraid to be shy to scab. and this cool. and la-la. that is, he found that part, i don't know there is a population with which one could already experiment. but in the end. yes, we didn't accept it. we now have laws. you say a little about queers at once. but how yes, it was not necessary to simply cancel criminal liability. o. so he says that it was necessary to leave an unexpected ending. let's stop and summarize the discussion. they could not even think that the dream of motherhood

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for only 999 rubles. those who call us will receive two knee pads for the price of one for only 999 rubles right now. call or order on our website leomax.ru to this meeting point. what is the future in your opinion? i understand that maybe we are discussing such topics ahead of time, but it still means what future awaits russian-ukrainian relations. bogdan anatolyevich, from my point of view, russian-ukrainian relations will turn into russian-russian relations russian-russian ukrainian statehood must really be destroyed, because it is dismantling, and we must achieve that russian unity in general, which we have been dreaming of for 200 years, including those people about whom i spoke so well in western ukraine. we had completely different relations

since 88. the second year, when oleg took uh from novgorod, kiev took took and then made kiev the capital of the russian state, then there were many different uh, ups and downs in our relations in the future. i understand that yours will actually show, so to speak, yes, results and what will be the relationship? i hope that if it is in our interests, after all, there is, so to speak, the state of ukraine that it will be, uh, equal relations that take into account the interests of the two sides , the opposite point of view of nikolayevich narrow to russian-ukrainian ukrainian relations will be wonderfully harmonious. i think that after some time we will conquer space together. but as part of one state or two, it is not interesting. the lord of ukraine as such, i am generally of little interest, and with the ukrainians, if fine. by the way, the future of alexander is multivariate, so it is impossible to predict what they will be like, only

that this is how the special military operation will end. this is how relationships will be. yes, brilliant i would very much like to, i don’t know within the same state or different, that this is a priority of the relationship, when, as before 2014, i could go to the airport, get on a plane or fly shows only a russian passport to the city of kiev tomorrow sit in boryspil and something there to sing a phrase no, because then provence is there. well, i remembered the song. yes, in general, i don't know, i hmm, i understand, yes. well, i am inclined, as it were, to the point of view of alexandria there or bogdan anatolyevich here. well, i'm not sure that we can somehow remake this western ukraine, first of all, western ukraine. and for yourself. because these repairs are generally complex, and it’s also important not to repeat the mistakes and mistakes of the past and others there, so i’ll tell you about repairs. well, as an allegory, it means that one family decided

paste the wallpaper there. parikom says how we can do all this in a more successful way. here, neighbors from above, it seems like they did the same thing recently. it has the same layout. well, the husband went to the neighbor says. how many rolls do you buy wallpaper. he says, relatively speaking, they glued 25 rolls of wallpaper there, they somehow went back to the neighbor again. listen, we did everything somehow and said and the raft wallpaper is exactly the same and bought 25 genera, again there were rolls left, so we also have left. it was the meeting place can not be changed 14:00 weekdays ntv goodbye.