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hello, this is the meeting place on ntv place, where does it all become clear? i'm andrey norkin my colleague ivan trushkin, and we work live . today we can say that our topics will be such as war and the economy, war and e and ideology, we took the name, how steel was tempered, in general, but probably you already immediately understand the direction of the discussion, that is, once in a certain period of our history is quite recent, everything worked out for us we hardened and we won, and we

survived and won. here, will it work? eh now? well first, as we often do in lately, fresh information this morning came reports of more rocket strikes. e on objects of ukrainian infrastructure. well, now we will show you a few shots, uh, rocket explosions were recorded in the kiev dnepropetrovsk nikola children's vinnitsa region in the kiev vinnitsa region, local authorities confirmed, uh, the work of their air defense, uh, according to preliminary data, but this, again, is, as it were, the kiev side reports that the kiev gs-2 energy facility in odessa was hit, several others. well over full information will be, of course, later. and i'm not inclined to think that this is our such a symbolic gift for yesterday 's zelensky's birthday, but, probably, there is some connection with the announcement of the supply of a tanks. e. well, probably, there is after all. we

've been somehow tying our retaliation strikes to something lately. hmm. here, and that western side, she directly links these tanks to zelensky's birthday. yesterday, after we went off the air, biden spoke. we are about it then it was announced to you. so he says so directly, it’s zelensky’s birthday today. we are now handing over tanks to him for what. tanks are needed , the us president says that they are needed to prepare for additional counteroffensives; moreover , crimea still appears there, yes, yes. well now let's see the first story. the very idea that we will send offensive weapons, planes, tanks and trains with american pilots and american crews. just understand and let's not deceive ourselves. it's called the third world war. biden said this in march last year, 10 months later , not a trace of his former beliefs remained.

today i announce that the united states will send 31 tanks to ukraine, abrams i thank chancellor schultz for agreeing to send leopard tanks and we will lead the efforts of european countries to send two tank battalions to ukraine according to biden, are not the threat of an attack on russia is needed that ukraine quote on fair terms, she could defend herself and win back her territories later in the white house. it has been hinted that the new weapon may come in handy for an attack on the crimea - this is ukraine where the ukrainians decide to go and how they decide to conduct operations in their country. this is their decision. on the same day, germany, after long hesitation, approved the dispatch of 14 leopard tanks, two to ukraine and allowed their export, and from other countries in kiev they pretended that they had no doubt that they would get what they wanted. they didn't want to give us heavy artillery, and then they gave us they didn't

want to give us high-power systems, and then they didn't want to give us tanks now they give, there is nothing left but nuclear weapons. whatever we got. president ravis zelensky did not rejoice for a long time at such a generous tarkov west on his birthday, and already in the evening he said that tanks are, of course, good, but not enough i am thieves. today, i spoke with nato secretary general jens stoltenberg, we should also open the supply of long-range missiles for ukraine, it is important that we expand our cooperation and in artillery we should enter the supply of aircraft for ukraine as for the timing, the biden administration reported that on delivery of tanks will take a month bbc news , citing official sources, does report that abrams will reach ukraine in about a year, and the pressor is wary that so many large deliveries of powerful weapons make the west a direct participant in the conflict. it's more obvious now than before. this

war is becoming a confrontation. the west with russia for the independence of ukraine does not mean that the smell was striving for this war, and that ukraine is only a mediator of the conflict, but in this situation, the ukrainians are deprived, that is, the freedom of will, which they clearly possess. so once again, let's return to the speeches, quotes from the speech of the president of the united states that were at the beginning of this, and the material, that means march of last year. this is a little less than a year ago. yes, we still have. january. so let 's not deceive ourselves. says the american president, the supply of aircraft, tanks, trains. i don't know why there are trains. well, to hell with him. okay with american american pilots. it's called world war iii. that would have been said a year ago now it says hooray hooray we are sending 31 abrams tanks leading european efforts on sending two tank battalions of ukraine

or the us president forgot what he said a year ago, we admit, because his memory is not very good, but he still has a staff. as you remember , andrei vladimirovich fedorov told us that he did it completely unimportantly. he thinks something there, biden does not understand there, while his administrative apparatus is working, then everything is fine, so the administrative apparatus obviously did not forget such a question , what the us president said a year ago, that is, then. eh, it turns out that from the point of view the united states finally began the third world war, so yes, well, actually, not from the point of view of the united states , the third world war began, but it began a long time ago and we need to. finally, let's move on to normal terminology, because we always say our own. well, what a bastard is on . the war is on. the war against russia is a war. it is an extermination war that is very tough now a new round of this war. after all, this same round will not end only with tanks. he still forgot, but

mentioning where, by the way, ukraine is enough after all, there were weak moments, the rocket will take, perhaps it will even reach nuclear weapons, therefore this is a war, and in order for us to win this war, we need what we need to consolidate society for victory, the ideology of support is not enough. we do not have a situation that is unacceptable for victory, when some are fighting, while others are having a party. we are not at war with us. we give a full-fledged full-fledged answer. i think not today. why because, as you just said in your opening remarks, we can't. we give strikes on strategic infrastructure in relation to some date. we must destroy this infrastructure , which is critical so that weapons do not get to the front lines, including when

there is some kind of movement on their part. and this is also the reason for this and that, probably, not only in this, but also in the fact that the ideology of its own has outlived itself and lived. we should already understand that there is a war in the west, everyone has long called it a war, and we all your own word. i'm listening to. what the president says about the president says about that we have, yes, in part, maybe there is a civil war going on, but for now we are still answering. putin said very much, yes, partly from happiness - these are the citizens of germany, saying that in part we have it in an interview on the territory , he considers the territory of the new regions, thank you, lord, no. the president says that we are still responding very restrainedly, because our main task is to save lives. uh, including soldiers, when you talk about what we have to change. uh, ideological approach. i am not a military man. there is

generals who will answer us more clearly the first reason, but i want to, but i want to say something else we are tightening. here it is quiet. wait, delaying the military operation and reacting, only pointwise. with these methods, we increase our human losses as well, so we need tougher actions. let's stop now. i ask you all to remember. here is this phrase about delay and consequences. how to see it, because there we will say, well, now alexey nikolayevich, because he was categorically shaking his head all the time, for now. you say, so your first denial, when elena vladimirovna agreed that yes, it is not necessary to consider the canoe to be a complete idiot, how to increase it there, but the degree of ba-marasmus of the biden. he said two perfectly logical things. first package. well, about trains. by the way, trains will go there , american pilots will go to ukraine, they will sit in american planes and will participate in

the war. this must be destroyed, and the american soldiers in ukraine, well, try to destroy them, which means when, if this happens, if the american soldiers will participate in the war. yes, it will be the third world war. today we are talking about not managing a piece of iron, but the participation, actually , of soldiers, as combat units, but this is not and will not be the americans have talked about this several times, the europeans have said several times. that's the last time that the american nato troops there yesterday about this story. yes , i will not participate in nato troops, let's go, that is , the third world war, so when biden says that sending american soldiers. there is a third war here, which will not be, yes, who don't want to. this means that they will be sent on a piece of iron, and people will remain in america. non-americans interrupt about this . yes, alexei, and military units. uh,

the polish side yes, or it will be some kind of volunteers, this is volunteers, they will be. it already exists. yes, there is a military part of the lifting parts of the nato machine, there is no country in ukraine. this will be the beginning of the third world war, while this is glory. god has not happened and yet it is not foreseen. and we're not trying here. here are some concepts to calm yourself down alexey nikolaevich because there is an american tank, which one way or another will soon go for it, it is provided in the united states. who will be driving there? well, someone will turn out to be, someone trained in any case by the americans trained in the same topic, don’t we reassure ourselves by saying that this is not a world war, as long as ukraine goes west there. it's been a war for a long time. so far, thank god, it's cold. yes, and they supply weapons in exactly the same way as at one time the soviet union supplied weapons to vietnam there so that the vietnamese fought the americans, there is a line, that's for now american military units and there are european

nato ones. does not participate in 2 days in ukraine and, most likely, they will not participate in it. talk about some kind of hot conflict with nato we just can't for no reason. maxim anatolyevich also shook his head at you , throwing terms. well, that's what everyone so wants the third world war to start. there is no it, and at the top of ours they do not want it. lastly, look at patrushev's cautious statement, which is described in the west almost as the main hawk, how calmly he says that when the hot phase will end. no matter where, they will not leave us. we'll go back to the cold war. well, what kind of nuclear i am, and so he says, vietnam correctly colleague whose tanks fought there were soviet who trained, and our vietnamese who shot down the makein, and the kingdom of heaven to him over hanoi, after which he fell into the lake. i don't think it was the vietnamese e, the same anti-aircraft gunners. and yet no

third war began in korea, there was a war. there the chinese, our then allies, fought against the americans and killed americans, the americans killed them, but in china, even which was not a nuclear power at that time, it was not inflicted. it's all about how to worry? not because of what , listen, you need to worry about the fact that everything will be fine , thousands of people will die, so including, now let's tell them that it 's a delay. well, it's logical. right now , this is our tactic to delay for some time , because it is the west that wants to try to organize another successful ukrainian offensive. we perfectly understand where it will eat only one the direction where this offensive is the strategic implications and that's within a few months, and it will be clear. they will succeed or they won't. and after that, we

, uh, the whole world is faced with a choice of what to do next, or to come to some sort of agreement. i don't believe it will be a peace agreement, but the most realistic option is how the korean war ended in 1953. it just stopped here. yes, we will get there, and the other option is the iran-iraq war. maxim anatolyevich the word i wanted the word touching valentinovich. but before doing so? i would show a fragment from, uh, a telegram recording of alexander kots, he is not only a military commissar, but also a member of the presidential council of a person. he is consonant with his reflections , honest, i will tell you mine regarding the fact that we, well, are inclined to underestimate somewhere to underestimate to be ironic in this whole situation. although really. she is already very serious. i don’t really understand why, with each new type of weapon that is supplied

to kiev, we begin to reassure ourselves and those around us, and the armor there is flimsy and the car heavy and the crew. get into it. fast. prepare for a long time the crews were preparing on the khimora and for some reason we are spinning three axes, the united states put on their agenda, then the germans - i would prefer to discuss how we destroyed this and that at the border point when crossing the ukrainian border. i would be here, i would immediately sasha well, we are dating him. no, we can't, we can't discuss it. we can't discuss it, because it doesn't exist either. he didn't destroy anything. well, then it turns out that such news will not appear, until we come to understand that this is a full-fledged war. do i get it right. that this is a full-fledged war, according to normal military theory, i told you here, back

in march, this is a full-fledged third world war, according to formal signs , the hybrid form is being carried out at this stage . everything, a full-fledged formal hybrid hybrid, a full- fledged hybrid it is full-fledged, which means that we must fully respond, and not formal hybrids war modern wars can be introduced in different forms hybrid one of the forms. and it is now used by the americans. that's it, that's all. let's say in vietnam when it was not, a hybrid war. for the simple reason that it went to the territory of a third party once and twice, there were no massive e economic sanctions that are now taking place, one wonders. why yes , the destruction of these questions, which you cannot comment on

a political decision, because the russian armed forces. solve this problem for this needs a purely political decision to be carried out by an air offensive operation. guilt air offensive operation and its scale allows you to cover the entire territory of ukraine to solve the problem of the destruction of all major objects. of this nature, these are railway stations that need these transshipment points. yes, that’s how constantine can be, such a political decision is not made on our part just so that it remains in the status of a special military operation and does not go hybrid without a word quite right, full-fledged the war will pass. but if we continue like this. it will go to the pipe from the hybrid for the simple reason that even churchill said that a politician who, between shame and war, will sort out shame, will receive both shame and war. he other, berlin said when he signed. well, in general, yes. so what we are saying now is correct, i

say it again, we could have ended this war. well, back in may. i say this, now now we have the opportunity to end the war to the middle. and this, if we start decisive actions at the front until this is done, because we have no war. we have a special operation, which i am talking about, come on, but you said that such measures, in my opinion, also said nothing. well, now, i will now call the war going on, and if the president says there is a war already, leonid slutsky has already said that listen. and what, well, the president will say there is a war and now we are not conducting a special military operation, but there is a war going on and even say, for example, he will say that there is a war not with ukraine and what is the third world war going on? well, it's clear that we the thought is not the word. sorry got it done. quite right. the fact is that russia

turned out to be a trap. from which you need to get out, it is clear that some kind of full-fledged full-scale, victory is hardly possible, it is hardly achievable to fight at all. sorry to fight as a nato bloc or fight in ukraine when 30 countries provide it with military-technical and financial diplomatic media and other support and are ready to provide it for a very long time. at the same time , the economic damage in russia is constantly tightening. uh, the sanctions loop around russia as help, in what way? i don't think it's good for russia to find itself in a situation like in 1917, when people eventually get tired of this and otherwise, 19. yes , we also had a patriotic outburst in 1914. almost more than now, than last year, and in total it took there how much it took two or three years 3 years of the loss

of the victim. the realization that it is hardly possible to win 2-3 years, and now all kinds of western analysts are talking. we just watched them try not just see how many weapons we have, how many economic reserves we have, and how many months. this is what they draw from this, certain conclusions. how long-term, maybe this conflict under the plot, we tried to look at us with their analytical eyes. according to bloomberg, russia will be able to conduct a special military operation for at least another 3 years, if the price of urals oil does not fall , russia's budget reserves will be enough to cover the deficit with a word prepare to play in debt. it's not very good yet. it seems that the war will end this year, obviously there will be a suspension, both sides will try to negotiate, starting from this version. the western press believes that

another wave of mobilization can allegedly await russia. cnn even gives a figure of 200,000 people. army. putin is weakening. do you agree vladimir putin is trapped. he 's trying to come up with some new strategies. putin is not able to produce so many new long-caliber shells. how much does he spend they are seriously talking about ukraine in russia, and the second wave of mobilization remains. many questions, how are you going to equip, in what uniform? you are going to send them to the front, however, the washington post, in one of the recent articles, assures that the war will be very expensive for the russian economy in the long run, the carnegie center claims the development of the russian economy last year. it not only stopped, but also began to decline, and it will take three to five years to stop the fall, and on new year's eve the bbc released a dramatic report about about how a special military operation

has changed russia, what russia did this year by attacking ukraine has serious consequences, of course more for ukraine but for russia too. shops here are still full of products, despite western sanctions. although most foreign brands have left the market, russia has already replaced them with their own counterparts. russia is still functioning, but stability is no more. vladimir ivanovich, how true are these fabrications and conclusions that we will survive economically for 2 years. we will go out economic three years. can it be placed in such a context? well, of course, this is a very serious issue for russia, but i would like to do a little bit, if we allow a bridge to the discussion that has just taken place. why are we discussing how to call this a third world war or continue to call it a special operation, if we are doing this in order to justify some decisions that have already

been made. i don't know anything about this, that's just one question. if i think, we think that by calling this conflict a third world war. we improve the economic situation. this is mistake. this will lead to chaos in the markets and to the degradation of the economy much faster than it is now, if we think that by calling it the third world war we will create the ideology of victory, then this is also wrong, because the ideology of victory is formed by the ideology of the state in peacetime, the soviet union built the state general welfare. it was clear to everyone that what capitalist russia is building in peacetime is incomprehensible to anyone, therefore there is no basis ah for the instant emergence of the ideology of victory therefore, in any case, call this conflict the third world war. i wouldn't rush. we know the facts. yes, the united states is supplying more and more weapons. with these facts. we need to work now on the issue of economic potential. well, it’s not very accurate, probably, to ask , in relation to a market economy, the question

of whether it will withstand any situation, in the sense that if the state can no longer produce either chips or a car. i will say only a rake, then the market economy will continue to function. she will sell rakes. the question is, will a country with such a market economy be able to solve global problems? the answer is no, a. and you think we're close to transitioning to auto-robbing? yes , because somehow such a comparison seems to have crashed in this direction. we have a trend towards this, because for now. well, what should we see. we should have seen that we quickly replaced the failure in the automotive industry with our own automotive industry. this is not happening. this is not happening with chips. this is due to parallel import, that is, in fact, we are switching to a mode of functioning in such a gray scheme that does not create an economy and strength. it allows some support to hold on to some - how much? well, look, judging

by how far we are to pay off the budget deficit, now the national wealth fund spending is there. yes, he is now, if i'm not mistaken, about 10 trillion, and the liquid part is six, and if i'm not mistaken , about one and a half trillion from there. taken, well, let's talk about a year, for example, about a year and a half years yes, and then ah, and then, well , then there are different options, then there is something, and then, and then everything will be light in the nineties, the light disappeared, i ironically. why vanya like you? eh, as i understand it tortures? yes, yes, yes, that's figs you zhozevich said that we were in a trap absolutely right. and because of ushka, how can one get out, or try, that means, uh, go through the walls there, break it down, destroy it, or sit and quietly straight, but piece by piece? that's why we ask,

we have the option if we want to then we still have to somehow call it all differently. well, for themselves. it will be fair. uh-huh, if we don't want it then, yes, we're sitting quietly shaking it all up, but then the question arises. how much do we have? how much time we have for this depends on the economic policy that is currently in place. well, for example, we say that our gdp fell by only 3%, while retail trade turnover fell by about 11%. most likely, this means that the civil sector gdp creating welfare approximately and fell by 8%, it is simply offset by the growth in the added value created by the military-industrial complex, which does not affect the well-being of people. this means that we have a pretty serious drop, so the first thing we need to do in my opinion, but notice industrial capacity is currently 60% loaded, so we can give people money, and then it will start the business, because right now the lack of demand is just give people money, even

print them slowly gradually, announcing a policy of gradually steadily increasing the level of people's incomes, and then this will lead to the fact that we artificially stimulate demand and are business-oriented. he will be able to work with this demand. this is how we keep the economy going. here is the social tension - is to increase our capacity in terms of major problems, such as complex aviation technology car chips. and this is my old position. it seems to me that regulated capitalism will not be able to cope with this problem ; a transition to a strategic planned vertical in key strategic sectors is necessary. that is, it is a scientifically based calculated plan that gives all relatives. or lord, they ask me too. well, that is, that's sort of, yes, it's not in the conditions of that state plan, the seventies we have huge computing power in order to predict future equilibrium. wait so well what has been said in

western speeches. this is a pure paramedic beater. it is generally not taken seriously, because the guys are engaged in the hyperprobe that we are engaged in. here we sit reflecting. now you know the most interesting again historical parallels. something reminded me of tas's statement. june 11 , 1941, for which the soviet government is constantly fired, this is no complacency. yes , an accident is not expected; today we are now discussing the same thing. why does the state reassure us and show war, because at the top it thinks that this should not be done. now, as for directly, how much can a country withstand and what happens to the ideology there? it was very correctly noted here that during the great patriotic war the soviet union was with a very ideology. well, you see another historical example of turmoil, there was such an ideological discord and collapse that it would seem that there was no one and no way to collect the state of the state began to gather from below, so to say that, if you approached events of this kind without state ideology. this will doom you to 100% defeat. no, they are no longer talking about the fact that during the civil war there was no intervention. communist ideology

dominated the entire territory of the uh of the russian federation, and yet, as we we know the result, we know this confrontation , they no longer talk about what they said about the economy then, what do you expect, agree, but besides the fact that the question arises. excuse again same zakaryabuyu phrase. and the price of the question, what will be in this case, if we bring everything to the point that the state begins to gather perfectly from below, and for the purpose of believing, you see , here we were talking about call it the third world, call these world. well, you know, i think that neither kaiser wilgel nor emperor nicholas knew that he was not announcing the first world war in exactly the same way as the people who gathered in the thirty-eighth year. in munich, too, they did not plan to start a world war there in a year, that what is happening now is called by one word or another after the fact by historians, you see, today we can define it, whatever the question is. what is the purpose of today's russia, the current leadership, as i understand it, to win the confrontation without bringing

the state into a full mobilization model , because if we are talking about the transition to complete strong resource model. they say, yes, i'm sorry there, they say there that the mobilization reserve of russia is 200.000. what is this funny? well, they took it, well, it's just not. seriously, so, i say again, russia is leaving its leadership from the concept of a global war, therefore the question of the use of nuclear weapons does not constantly arise from our side, because we are sure. yes , that's how you understand correctly, what is at the top. and how are you? you understand the language, we can achieve this goal without mobilization transfer to the country. here is a full-fledged you know, here. well, at the moment, oddly enough. i do not agree with this. i think that it is necessary to transfer the country to mobilization rails. this i believe, but while i look at what i have from our management, while they cope. all clear. uh-huh, let's not speak in this part yet, so that everyone can say, well

, in short, for those plots with forecasts that you showed, they come from, after all , that there is a very poor understanding of the real state of affairs in russia and greatly underestimate e. standing and uh, reserve uh, strength in our country of all sorts of our western friends. yes, for example, an example is an example that there will be enough production of e weapons for a year, but they forgot about the analyst, how much ammunition we have in stock of weapons, which has been since the soviet era. it's generally someone knows, it's we say whether someone openly knows the other's point of view. we just collected in this story such, as it were, a little bit negative for us analytical. they may be negative, but they show e not understanding well in general. uh, in general, the situation in russia and and the representation it is on both sides that

we accept something. yes, but we do not understand that there can be no defeat, firstly, when you are now a little one pretending that very often they want to make some kind of analogy. parallels with military conflicts of the past are impossible. this is wrong. why because the situation is completely different? why because now there is an armed conflict, so the proposal is by the neighboring side of the proposal, we stop we stop after the advertisement we show the story about which everyone wants here, but nikolai igorievich then, after this story , will tell us, why is it wrong that he will just come well. here, how cool, they came up with, in short. weeks on central television, washington opened the hunting season for the german leopard.

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military support, the war ended only after 20 years, saigon pao soon. after the americans curtailed their participation in the conflict to the withdrawal of troops from vietnam , the white house administration was pushed by heavy losses and masses. the protests inside the united states for the united states are the first defeat in history and this led to the collapse of confidence in american leadership not only in asia but throughout the world here, too, the united states could not do without the americans arming the islamic opposition throughout the conflict, supplied to the jahids, weapons, grenade launchers, anti-aircraft missiles, when in december 79, soviet troops entered afghanistan to help the allied government, the americans rejoiced that they had provoked the ussr to get involved in a costly military conflict was unleashed by the soviet vietnam as a result of the fall

in the international prestige of the ussr, a massive boycott of the olympics-80 after the withdrawal of soviet troops from afghanistan by the mujahideen. replaced the islamists and the taliban movement in russia, it is recognized as terrorists. the ionization that took over the entire country in the mid-nineties we did not push the russians to intervene, but we deliberately increased the likelihood that they would do this secret operation was a great idea, it resulted in trapping the soviet union in an afghan trap on the day, when the soviet union officially crossed the border. i wrote to president carter. now we have a chance to give the soviet union its vietnam war. another example of the korean war that went on between north and south korea from 1950 to 1953. the communist north was then supported by china and the soviet union, and the pillars of the south, became, the united states, after several years

of bloody fierce battles, in the parties of the series to the negotiating table, but they all the time came to a standstill, at some point it became. it is clear that to continue both the war and the negotiations useless and conflict. came to naught, technically this war is unfinished to this day, the copper treaty has not yet been concluded now the two koreas are diametrically opposed sides from us the socialist other capitalist usa with its military bases was instructed to settle in south korea at the same time expanding its foothold in the far east and receiving from seoul to the ruble kisummy us content you. the ceasefire in korea in july 1953 may have seemed like a defeat to many americans and their brave south korean ally, but today south korea - one of the economic gems of the world, although the war never led to a peace agreement on a cease-fire line with a toxic neighbor in the north, it remains fragile for almost 70 years. perhaps this is a snapshot of post-war ukraine. so i have a request more than a year, so that we can

become more very good and the very fact of demonstrating such a plot. and we are looking . why can’t we bring a conflict before? why because it was impossible to see such a report on television earlier in the past , it is impossible to change the openness of the world has changed. now you can see that everything is not in the windows of the basin to read. and now you can log on to the internet to look at the position of some, the position of others, thinks that i myself don’t even know yet, i’m talking about the fact that in e, the state is being presented, that now there is a question about the very existence of russia, not pre- why, therefore that compares to afghanistan. what are here what are here in this respect? i compare, wait never eat. i compare wait. and in order to understand how we are ready for a protracted war. yes, yours, too, so you talked about this, you are not

ready. but i can learn some lessons from here, which i can’t say, and lessons must be learned from all military conflicts without the united states, not even one hitler could do. everything, we know it. i think that now, after all , it is impossible to compare the current situation in ukraine with any of these conflicts. why are there other stakes in this game at all, if we understand that, yes, for russia , the existential challenge of the existence of a threatened country, everyone says this, but we don’t we are talking about. what is the alternative for the west now, if the west loses ukraine under pressure from russia, that is, the growth of russia reaches the borders of poland, it starts the processes of falling for them, if falling domino , the loss of ukraine falling domino will necessarily begin the collapse of the entire system. china takes over taiwan reconfigures maritime trade. this means that russia is moving closer to india and iran without

the participation of the west, this process in the eu, the collapse of america will remain to lose latin america for them. this is also your vital e, defeat for a minute, and we can’t do this for them, this is political death. for us, this is physical death for the state. that is, the stakes are still high, but they are not equal, and we do not need to wait. i say that we must go to the intensification of hostilities for a solution. explain again what we are. agree. you are with us today, let's, i do not believe that this conflict, the conflict in ukraine is a threat to the survival of russia, this is not a conflict that can lead to the destruction of the russian state to the russian state. here are more than 1.000 years, and she survived more than one conflict there, and i would not exaggerate the significance of what is happening now in ukraine no, firstly, secondly, e, according to the timing of this conflict, most likely, the active part of the hostilities

will end in the next year and with the exhaustion of the ukrainians. ah, human resources once the economy is two and the scenario. that's just the south korean cessation of the conflict, there is no middle division, the most likely scenario. and that's all most likely , he goes. may i interrupt you? and that's why we are just in kiev they showed in one of the programs they began to condemn the scenario of the thirty-eighth parallel, there daniilov talks about it, so they can talk about anything they want. there is the first different. now, but this scenario is there without taking into account the opinion of the ukrainian side, which in general there is a large number of crazy people there. i would not take them into account from this scenario. he is the most likely. you can even draw something for yourself. here is where it will go. this is my problem here to speak will not work. this parallel will be clarified by the results hostilities that will take place this year.

and maybe early next. yes, that is, the active part of the conflict is likely to end by the middle of next year. in a year, that is, ukraine has resources for a year , taking into account american support, more than for a year. they can't at least because they have a drop in industrial production this year. well, in the past, yes is from 50 to 90% in various industries without a rear, without an economy , a country cannot fight even with american weapons. so let's go then first, i would caution against predictions about when this conflict will end. i remember very well that last year many people said that it would end this year. the year has just begun. just another february. another february. i started, and already we are talking, maybe, and probably will end next year, so let 's not rush, here with such predictions. now, as for comparisons with completion. e korean conflict thirty-eighth parallel. you are absolutely right, you remembered this. a let's remember where it started.

actually, the border between north and south korea, before north korea crossed this border, by the way, the soviet union stalin tried several times, e, to persuade the north korean comrades not to start this conflict, but then they, in general, persuaded him anyway, persuaded him, they started differently, but nevertheless, the border before the start of the conflict between north korea and south korea passed along the same thirty-eighth parallel and, as a result of the conflict, north korea, which started this the conflict has lost about four thousand square kilometers, south korea has one south korean, a small city. you came under control as a result of the war in north korea and one north korean city came under the control of south korea, so the equivalent of this situation now would be the return of the russian federation at the border on february 24 last year, this is when we talk about the korean scenario. that's what we are talking about, not about the fact that the borders will be rewritten somehow, then how is it, russia is in zaporozhye in kherson or where are you in kherson

area or somewhere she just those who say so, they omit they don't know. first they let go of this straight line and talk about how it should end. excuse andrey, any conflict when you end , and well, the korean conflict ended just like that, it began at the thirty-eighth parallel and ended at the thirty-eighth parallel, so the equivalent is if there is a russian leadership. if we were ready for such an option now, then, probably, there would be those who would be ready to hear russia in this sense, but the russian leadership at the moment at the moment. this option is not ready. to add to recall that north korea has become the possibility of returning such a situation, if the chinese contingents of large contingents of millions did not appear there, then north korea was completely defeated by us troops and now the us is now at the head of ukraine yes, i suppose

the possibility of the option of the thirty-eighth parallel, if this parallel will run along the borders of the eastern cross, where to meet? polish russian troops are all, and we are close to this option, now the second question about the post already, and so on and so forth, the supply of weapons makes sense then. if there is a subject, then it is possible to supply it now. this is the subject to destroy. we have to destroy it all. maxim anatolyevich yes maxim 30 seconds. i don’t even know, probably, it’s possible or impossible with previous conflicts, it’s possible and necessary, because the previous conflicts mentioned, and afghanistan, our afghanistan and vietnam didn’t lead to direct clash of russia, the soviet union and the united states of two superpowers. and although the united states formally failed, that in the vietnamese conflict,

so that the afghan one was not achieved. no one even raised the question of their destruction , their humiliation in some way. so i think this is what we should eventually end up with, that is, the maximum goals of special operations are that you don’t like elena vladimirovna and her scenario. what, well, which is she now telling the army to bring down the economy for incomprehensible sake. what i don't know, i couldn't the russian federation than categorically, because not a single one during the cited ones endangered the security of the nuclei, not having powers directly at its borders with the help of a regime with elements not just with elements of nazism, but a regime declaring its intention to commit genocide. that's why you all think pampering. and this is a serious problem that you cannot run away from, because if you let into the chronicle what the ukrainians do with our prisoners of war, which we have classified information. well, what gets here. this here are the little things in life. that is, it will fall. it seems to me that the question is, why is it not allowed,

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the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear. we continue our guests criticized us a little for our tactics of the previous hour, but nevertheless we will try to continue this comparative analysis of ours, which means, how our steel was tempered topic, i said at the beginning, yes, here we have hardened in due time and survived even now. perhaps we are trying to repeat something that was undertaken, and by our country by our leadership. there 's a lot of discussion now a few decades ago about the changes being prepared in schools. we have already talked about this several times, in particular there about the return, and the initial war of preparing the school curriculum about changes in the literature curriculum. well say yes to the critics who

oppose these changes. they think that this some. here it is again. an ideological depression is engulfing our country. we can’t come up with anything really new and necessary, but we are trying to get, uh, today ’s young russians to think the same way as soviet schoolchildren thought, again, several decades ago, which means, in order not to be unfounded, let’s move on to the facts. on wednesday, the ministry of enlightenment reported that patriotic works on a military theme, which the pre-war and post-war generation studied, will return to the school literature curriculum. nikolai ostrovsky's steel the russian character of alexei tolstoy the brest fortress of sergei smirnov the hot snow of yuri bondarev and others literally asked the ministry about this a week ago vladimir putin in an unconditional talk with the minister. enlightenment about the need to return our works to the school curriculum. yes, ours quite

right, ours can already be said to be soviet classics, which form the public historical consciousness, e entire generations. here are some more amazing initiatives that are being implemented in schools on physical education. children. now they will play bast shoes and other traditional russian games , the set of soviet trp standards has returned , moreover, for those who are ready for work and defense. it will be especially good to add points to the central department store for the unified state examination in the near future. the course of initial military training will return, and life safety lessons do not exclude the ministry will be conducted by participants in a special military operation. i believe that including a. those who today fulfill their civic duty. uh as part of a special military operation can then be taught at school. uh, but after going through some retraining again. another innovation is talking about an important skeptic.

they were immediately dubbed new soaring information, but in fact they turned out to be not so important. so a couple of days ago, one of the invited online speakers for 13 million students became a favorite of schoolchildren. yegor creed he was supposed to talk about cybersecurity, but he could not resist and at the same time advertised his concert and asked the head of the safe internet league to subscribe to it in a telegram. ekaterina mizulina. she was indignant that conversations about important things are leading do not understand who they say. he will not teach children anything good, i was asked to record this video, which i don’t know what it will teach you, most likely nothing, and i also take the opportunity. i want to invite you to my huge solo concert in moscow, which is not yet clear where it will take place, but it will be for 40,000 people , so we will accommodate all of you and one more innovation, which is seriously discussed reducing the number of hours devoted to learning foreign languages ​​or even complete exclusion from school programs. in past 2009, the crimean parliament proposed to ban the study of english in

schools. proponents of prohibitions consider these lessons harmful and even dangerous . we grow english englishmen. trust the kids. our students today are taught from the first grade. therefore, language is the first weapon of mass destruction that was carried in the nineties. and so that those who still know english do not go to study badly abroad , the minornaulka announced this summer that international academic an object. will now go exclusively with friendly countries. but cooperation with european universities. it would be necessary to suspend if in the nineties 2.000 were popular exchange programs that allowed russian high school students in a few months. it’s completely free to study abroad and live in a family of foreigners, but now the shop has been closed, perhaps for the better , margarita simonyan thinks so, who once herself studied under one of such programs in the usa, i then already understood that america teaches us not out of the kindness of our hearts, and so that we return and reshape the mole in her america in the image and

likeness and already understand that in this i seem to have outwitted her america. and vladimirovich boris borisovich, how is that a finger? if you show you will start right away, then vladimirovich, you very famously formulated the following idea before the interview. so, if we start teaching children , well, relatively speaking, according to certain soviet patterns, then we will raise a generation, as if with a soviet understanding of how to love the motherland be ready for protection and etc. and in general, how would this generation be better than the previous one, but personally you doubt it. why er, in my opinion, is very logical, look. eh, the people brought up by the soviet union are not only the people who built the great country and launched a man into space. these are the same people who later destroyed this country, then successfully divided it amicably. and what they inherited from

their ancestors, and then they also successfully repainted spartan workers in the liberal democrats, and so on. these are the same people who were brought up on fadeev on the island and impossible. here in minced meat turn back. and now it seems that they are trying to do exactly the same thing. well, to simplify, this is what it looks like. let's raise children. as good as me, let's be as cool as we are as deputies of the state duma, for example, but this is a false message, everything is fine, because only a few grew up, really great politicians or someone else there, and in their mass people. they were different and that's all one size fits all. here it is impossible. you see here why, it seems to me, what was proposed is logical. i have always been told that it is necessary to educate us there, uh, by personal example, yes, and i, in principle, agree. i just

understand that for some time, uh, our country lived in such. conditions when your personal example no longer worked, because you were left alone with your educate them, and there was no help from the state , there was no state participation, moreover, you wanted to tell your child, here, do it as i go there, work for 12 years, but at the factory, well, for example, and he says, yes, you went. uh-huh, i would be doing some fucking shit there now, the evil ones, so i say that this is an idea in itself, evil people, in fact, they say, not in the way that vladimir says, they say angrier, that's everything that you have just listed about nvp means about be ready and so on. this is such an attitude of the younger generation, they say, these evil people that we are leaving, which means we are on the defensive all over the square, we are preparing for isolation, and so on and so forth. that's what they really lead to people to whom everything that you are now in the plot

list categorically the people to which alexander alexandrovich can lead you have already begun. so shouting how many people absolutely simplistic approach built the country the people who got there, let's say it was longer comb okay, let me say it then. i don’t see any problem at all, no problem that the elements of the upbringing or education of the soviet period, but will be restored at school. i don't understand why they go where? and when they were gone, they had to stay and the books that are listed are wonderful books. in general, they were excluded in vain. sergeevich’s elastic and gratitude, he says, so you said ivan yes, as you want, so you will explain, that is, a modern educated person will let down the base for any position, that is, attempts to isolate. what isolation the only thing that surprised me was someone you said about

a foreign language. lived, of course. consistently yes in english one hour russian but reasonable both english and french and spanish and such chinese any language, if people learn, others have no desire for any language. e shut down the world. you don't see. here in these sentences i want to say there are elements of the soviet soviet education gets into today's school. they do not exclude and use modern methods of technical computer formations, technologies alexander well, again, you just don’t see any inclination of ours to close, compared to what it was, well, to be honest with you, even i , a young man, see, because i remember , how it was during the years of my school youth when a terrible thing came to us, yes, a terrible thing , the americans brought us, who say the exchange was some kind of desire to close now , a desire to close, and some kind of forced

reaction, the desire to close us here, so are we refusing? cancellations we cost stopped my scientific exchanges, or something, sports exchanges stopped us trying to close us they don’t let us go to sports competitions they don’t let our youth into us they are afraid that we will spoil the tourists here, that is, it makes sense, which is probably part of us are forced to somehow respond to the hostile position of a number of countries in a number, not all of them, not of the whole world, but i am sure that this is also a temporary phenomenon, because in general the development of society. it is cyclical and periods of some kind, well , difficult periods are replaced by a bag period. yes, he started laughing at the words. marguerite of course it's funny, when she was a girl in america she already knew that she would become a better boss, he said that she understood that she would outwit. yes, of course, because oh yes, yes.

have you known margarita for a long time or only i persuaded her wait, you know her only during the period of her leadership, for example, how young russian people felt about themselves . in fact, you can’t really say anything, you don’t really know, neither his biography nor his creative period, and they already say that i’m a girl and i was abroad and even then i understood what was needed, apparently yes, i was a komsomol pioneer. and when there are members, that is, people like you, the country fell apart. so , as it were, and then again, as he says, they shared it with pleasure or ruined it correctly i shared without pleasure. absolutely some kind of ideology here, first i’ll tell you the good news. none of that , dear comrades in their seventies . there is putin patrushev who will not

succeed there yet. it just won't work, that's all, because i read his patrol texts. i just see such a complete picture of the world, but the previous part of the program also referred to the texts. i will explain patrushev in a less dramatic way. why won't it work. absolutely look. uh, as they say in dolgoprudny, you can’t enter the same place twice electric train. you know it can't work. it’s no way, when all this was being laid, the soviet system was the basis of this soviet patriotism, absolutely positive, completely timely, it was the twenties and thirties, the country was solving certain tasks from an illiterate village to become an advanced progressive, and a demographic pyramid. and this is the most important thing looked. that's how that's how the elderly were few. so here it was showing much more, but this thickness is the number of people. ah, fifties.

so there were forty-year-olds, the average age was 25 people, there was a huge number of young peasant peasants, yes, of course , let's how tempered that is, well, that won't work, because we don't have young people, yes, you hear what we have now up there, there are a lot of sixty- fifty-year-olds like me more in the country. here, if we take the year of birth 603, than those who are 20 years old and there are very few young people, that is , books are a schoolgirl program for youth. here are the events of a hundred years ago civil war. how the steel was tempered or the brest fortress eighty years ago, these events about the sites of it are farther than they were from me. world war i and the world are absolutely learning more. if you seriously think that the events of harry potter will be separated in general, not only in time. but this is generally different. history at all but no information today 10 or 15 people 90%

he receives not at school. and guess where where you are on the internet it’s good just like that, yes, how the brest fortress became tempered to kill what he gets in the open world to be interested in, if he gets frank garbage there, then you need to go in something. let's swear behind the garages. this does not mean that it was necessary to curtail all schooling. you see, this is kind of a strange question here . what do you know, here are a few. there, for a long time , the notorious pole was remembered. this is the result of the school education that existed in the post-soviet period. and then we got a question. just not about soviet do not do the soviet do. we are talking here in a strange way, or maybe that we have introduced the manifesto of the communist party anti-yuring into the program, prayed for the complete collection of lenin's work, we are talking about the books that we are now faced with, uh,

the general global threat is coming to the whole world. there the whole west is against us. and the whole world, okay , the whole west, respectively, we should not really need to prepare for this. wait west a good bad thing is everything we're into at some point, as opposed to but the west of these united states decided that patriotic education, as such in schools, we do not need it, not in literature. it's true to the house that we now, well, it looks like. this is at first glance. we are again trying to take some examples of methods from the past and the soviet past. how much are these methods? let's show all the same, how honest i was your methods. we are all the time. in general, they also, as it were, how to say it, peeped, yes, because, no matter how closed it was. so our soviet society, and no matter how we talk about the decaying west nonetheless our new york skyscrapers our moscow skyscrapers. coca-cola has its own soda, too. stars are our movie stars. well, let's be honest, we were guided by hollywood. and so it turns out some kind of strange double

thoughts on the one hand. we say, yes, but on the other hand, we look around and think about how we could better resemble it. strange, i forgot to say, one of the main soviet directors of the stalin era, grigory alexandrov, visited america in his youth, where he met the actress gretta garba. even legends about their fleeting romance and upon returning to their homeland. as they say, he began to look in the ussr for someone who would remind him of garm. a suitable candidate turned out to be his future wife, lyubov orlova, who, thanks to alexandrov’s films, became stalin’s favorite to the audience. she looked more like marlene dietrich but the soviet harvard greta was more called tamara makarov how do you die halva, i'm in a hut, they'll leave to the left, go run, tiki-doo. i'll go out of the tower to the left and leave. in the early twenties, the architect alexei shchusev

recommended sending his budding deputy to study in america, so vyacheslav altarzhevsky went on a business trip to the usa for 11 years to thoroughly study american skyscraper construction technologies, and then repeat the images of american skyscrapers on the 800th anniversary of moscow so in september 1947. seven stalinist skyscrapers. this is the first such multi-storey building in the ussr after the victory, when the prestige of the country grew, stalin uttered a historical phrase. we must be ready for the arrival of our beard foreign tourists. what will happen if they go around moscow and do not see any skyscrapers, the heyday of soviet fashion came, finally, in the fifties and fifty-ninth , the dior fashion house brought to moscow its latest collection of an elegant model; . forge the industry to start imitating western silhouettes. you look at sushi. what cato what labels even this has changed. so where can i

go? who did you bring susan? is she trying on from the urals? this is carden, we have an alliance two or three such units, and even then he is diplomats of non-affiliated countries. according to legend, when marshal zhukov met with dwight isenhower, who commanded american troops in europe during world war ii, he allegedly treated him to coca-cola, supposedly soda, the commander liked it so much that he asked to organize the supply of the drink to his soldiers. and although then in the soviet union already at the end of the seventies it turned out to create its own analogue of soda. baikal still dreamed of american rings.

nikolai viktorovich, won't it work with our the younger generation? the current one is also such a strange two-way thinking, that is, on the one hand, we at school, perhaps even absolutely correctly, talk about patriotic education about what is in the west - this is bad, and so on and so forth, but at the same time they in the everyday sense, they look at the same technique there and try to get exactly that western one. you know the answer to this question is quite simple, because, for example, i belong to the generation that lived in the soviet union when it was still closed and, perhaps, the soviet union when it began to destroy, so i saw both . and therefore, i don’t really understand why a good book that tells about love for the motherland and self-sacrifice is filled with some kind of ideological meaning. everything is now done ideologically correctly, this is good literature. these books. you have to believe no, come on. yes, you are introducing this book into such a book, but it is soviet a in the school

curriculum, and then, accordingly, you will be all over the country. you close how the soviet union is another soviet union indeed. uh, began to close, although initially the iron curtain lowered the west so today ivan built a wall in europe. not we. they want you to initially initially the iron curtain lowered the west and the soviet union then closed, but today you say, europe is lined with cedars, so we have nothing left. how to close. we repeat the evenness is open. this europe is fenced off from us. nikolaevich from the fact that you caught both that and that co- excuse me, what year were you born in the seventieth seventieth year of birth, it means that in your youth you dreamed, probably, of some kind of player, i don’t know japanese yugoslavia in his youth player eighties player's. eighty

at the end of the eighties was. e. here, of course, is a portable reel-to-reel tape recorder, maybe, yes, someone already had two japanese cassettes, but a small player, which was then called, nevertheless. you dreamed about this technique your thoughts were no now. this is my generation right now. here is something, so to speak. e such splendor, from the west i thought that they wanted to eat all this, they deceived us. we are the generation of those who understand how the west deceives and we just want to explain to young people that all this is a mirage in order to take away natural resources to deprive us of an immortal soul. and now boris is pleased about it, because he does not understand. here's what it's about. we experienced it all on ourselves to explain to this

person that he will see all this mirage. come on, come on russian car. it's okay, there are no two things attracted. we special attention. here is the discussion. well, how the steel was tempered can be argued, but artistic merit. i think it's still a pretty stilted book, but it may be for some, but as for the ideological mood, but it is soviet in the sense that the hero of nikolai ostyvsky is a hero of the civil war, somewhere the reds killed the whites and you understand how it is a little double. and why should we just throw out this ideology to our children, and teach it, when president putin constantly quotes ivan iln, a philosopher who is absolutely white, who is an anti-bolshevik anti-communist. it seems to me that this e means a page of the civil war. we need to turn over and neither the one nor the other children do not imposed. how are you. here we will build a new russia without imposing anything about their reds or

our whites. what's the matter? and the second, of course, but the respected senator, of course, answered, but these crimean politicians, who are this idiotic. in my opinion, the idea of ​​abandoning the english language promotes. here is not particularly liked the phrase, which is not. and hmm, one of them said to bet on a friendly state in their language is implied. here now sergey lavrov just now. yes, here he is, it’s just that he’s still having a difficult time, but he flew away from south africa, that’s the most friendly state, he fruitfully communicated, but he communicated not in the xhosa language, not in the zulu language with his american interlocutors, but we also communicate in english and with indian interlocutors in order to solve the problem of replenishment of oil workers

here abroad, therefore , based on this, you can then say that yes, this is a proposal not to go, not to learn english, because not everyone will go. this , again, is a direct path to the fact that we are fenced off, yes, how is it possible to protect yourself from common sense , because even those with whom we will try to agree on an anglo-saxon otpoly, as our opponents like to say, we will negotiate in english, firstly, i'm probably the only geek in your company. in the seventy-sixth year, i didn’t want or dream of chewing gum, or jeans, but then this was only outwardly clothes. yes, these were the books they read, you know, well, it happened here is the second question. well, if the master didn’t come in, how did she become tempered by a million people in dozens of countries of the world has gone, well, the taste does not argue nikolai ostrovsky is already enough for such that they can choose for themselves, whom he

likes, who no, who inspires no one, especially the question is this one specifically in the listed books. show me where there is, what about closeness, where specifically there is no literature. we start to assume, so uh. i will say this, although i was asked to raise it very much. i will say. please look at the presence in the school curriculum of the archipelago. gulag i'm not talking about ideology. there is such a talmud, it is necessary to explain why the uncle lied here, how many times he actually lied, and you offer this to children and this is normal for some reason. i don't scream. i believe that this book should not be presented at school at all, because there is such a language that all the examples that were cited are used by adults. i can remind you of the soviet ice cream, which, as you say, did not exist. read the works of vladimir ilyich about the fact that you need to take the best from people who, even ideologically, he wrote about it the fact that it was then thought up at some stage, you understand, today they are shouting we will give up tchaikovsky well, you can also

say that these are two thoughts, what are you there? and you speak russian matkashevich, but on the sly you will listen to tchaikovsky here it was not that at some point the soviet ideology turned into accountability and clothes were ahead of common sense, but this does not mean that nikolai ostrovsky is stealing arkady gaidar who is now in school. how to start now? even though what is the curtain of which country? i didn't say wait, please, let's, let's more simple, but stop your work. stop, please, let's give a little more simple and understandable examples. eh, that's all the same, when semyon semyonovich set off on his journey. well, in general, probably. the vast majority of those who saw him off and who later watched this movie, but experienced a feeling. well, if you don’t envy, then wait a minute. well, alexander , what flatters you all today, because, well,

any soviet citizen did not have the opportunity. so, taking it and going on such a cruise shows that any soviet citizen, like semenovichkov, had the opportunity to go, as it turned out, the city of baku . that's what you say, you know me. eh, i was also a child once and also studied at the alaba grandmother of the soviet school. i studied and then in russian and i remember very well when it was the transition from soviet to russian. well, there was practically nothing to eat there for several years. yes, then there is and it seems to me that today, uh, to stuff the school with some powerful ideological tasks and programs and try to have a child. e , through the force of e-e to force to emphasize e, there through some specific literature, which should carry out some kind of e morality in it. it's just useless. i remember myself as a child, when

you open the refrigerator and there is nothing to eat, yes, then you just go outside. i lived. uh, i took the nagatinskaya metro station next to the embankment, i dumped the trash in the trash, took the rope, threw it into the bucket. uh, i collected in the river water, took a sponge without soap without shampoo, because he was not there and washed cars earned money, what did he buy? so there is no interruption, wait, what i think, i do not need to boil. in general, i said, i don’t need to say anything to leningrad. you can say, but i need to sort it out, you start higher, when dear andrei nikolayevich, please, let's spread a person tried in his youth, wait. no, teach well. and every child will love his homeland. if he understands, it's good or what, like you should learn? so you have to learn to move if you have andrey

mikhailovich in your family is it good for a child if you are taught to properly clean the literature from which but i don’t talk to you now, so to speak, e is not always a good mood of the stomach. yes , however, it means good and quiet, quiet. is the child's teacher good? ah, the notion that the whole world is against your country against you. you are ready not only to be ready not only for some specific sacrifices. i don’t know under in the image, but also on a feat, yes, and wait, and as a consequence and as a consequence to the situation when the country must, well , somehow move away from all this hostile world, including if we are talking about some everyday things there. i think we have to distance ourselves from something. we must clarify. why did this happen? really? what is the root of what, indeed, we have the largest country , we have huge resources and indeed. there are entire countries that want to take over

, it is completely clear how children should be educated and their children. i have three of them i bring up in an absolutely understandable way that i say that when you are 16 there, then there my daughter will be 16 in 2 weeks. i want you to go to work so you understand. excuse me. and she says, well, if it works out, i'll walk. in doing so, she goes to all the functions you won't get me. i won't walk. she is learning english french so she will teach biology. she goes to different courses. and i want her to still be able to make money. and if she can't, earn, money, you say, well, dad will be able to. no matter how it can be at 16-17 18 20 can already yes? as it is biology is very promising. let's take a break for one little bit, all the guests said this all at once, now we will continue.

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, our soviet is good, and suddenly we have to accept that our soviet is good. it, in general, is not entirely soviet, or to put it mildly, but it is not at all soviet, it is their western one , we just take it in due time. well anyway they knew, for example, about the zhiguli that the zhiguli is , as it were, not our cars; now we will give a whole list of such examples. and here's how to live with it. please show the industrialization of the thirties. in fact, kavale americans and germans in 10 years, americans fleeing the great depression are ready for any job, built about one and a half thousand plants and factories in the ussr, and some of them were completely built in the usa , dismantled, transported to the soviet union and reassembled according to this principle erected, stalingrad tractor plant. it was brought in parts by 100 ships.

the gorky automobile plant was created by the american company o'stin , the automobile plant named after leninsky komsomol of moscow was built according to the project of ford. soviet reserves in the union were silent, what kind of implementation of the five-year plan plans, including foreigners answer with a surprisingly indirect playful allusion to this film volga passed the zong of russia was presented to the pharaoh. in 1936 , the people's commissar of the food industry at stas mikoyan went to america to study the latest achievements of the food industry, in order to introduce them to the ussr after that trip. we got condensed milk in canned food ice cream in a waffle cup tomato juice in three-liter jars mayonnaise sausages and boiled sausage it is she

who counts which was, well, not wrapped in a split bun, but the strong lag of the soviet economy was the first to speak with a high podium, general secretary khrushchev, called for 3 years to catch up and overtake america in the production of meat, milk and butter per capita. we still need to work hard. et, in order to catch up with you three dressed up, we will overtake and forward. let's go to 1959 at the exhibition in sokolniki, the usa showed their achievements, the astonished audience was able to see the life of ordinary americans, mixers, toasters, refrigerators air conditioners and even a color tv in the soviet citizens, then it was simply not available to the exhibition, the american

vice president nixon and the secretary general came to the exhibition. khrushchev yes. in some cases, you can be ahead of us, for example, in the development of engines for your space exploration rockets. but there are other areas, for example in color television, where we are ahead of you. we saw you ahead of you in this technique, the americans are smart people. we always believed and knew about it, but we also know not flies, so to speak, we beat with our nostrils the debate was recorded on an ampex color video recorder, nixon cited this as one of the examples of the superiority of american technology after the recording, khrushchev gave a copy to the sound recording institute for study, but our engineers were unable to recreate a tape that was close in quality to the american one. and even in brezhnev's time they still used american buy it in a roundabout way, bypassing the male. i think you will be interested

to know that this program is now being recorded on color videotape. and you can immediately reproduce it and you will not be able to distinguish it from reality. so alexander man looks like jeans. everything is just closed here. some cunning is done here not in ideology, but in technology. note. that's for everything. this time it was said, all america america is american. pay attention to the fact that after the war the same thing happened from western europe and western europe was restored after the first world war after the second world war at the expense of american technologies and plants and equipment, because the united states this is how geopolitics has developed, that is, we should not recognize at this moment the soviet

union of europe survived two difficult wars. yes , the first world war, then there is the civil war, the second world war. yes, and the same thing, therefore, it was restored where it was, and perhaps thank you so much, yes, we just want those americans to share their capabilities with a lot of money, but we don’t buy guys from europe. they don’t want money now, so it ’s not a matter of a day, which we must destroy all the time. here are the chickens, i promise to answer briefly and not quiet. so, the logic that we are closing, and then we want everything that is in the west , if we introduce such and such an ideology there, something like this, if we raise the price of a ticket to the museum tomorrow, then we will need a blue bicycle after that . this is the logic

, that is, the sense worthwhile, that we wanted those same jeans and wanted the very ones, apparently metaphors. not because they are western, but because they were better, they were better. therefore , if we have our own, it will be the same as what. the main thing is good, but i voice my question. why e the world is arranged? so this is your phrase that we are always forced to buy something there and we are, and those who catch up with nothing germany are so good in a different way. why are there more americans? and i began to say 200 years without war, they sat out across the ocean, because they thought the dollar was made the main one. let's just say, well, soviet scientists were in business. well, not weaker, american math problem. in a different. just one country for many decades, focused primarily

on military power. it's true, and our result is obvious, our rockets and planes there bombs and all. well, not that it is not inferior, as it turns out, all kinds of church ones are superior to all sorts of tomahawks and so on. this is the net other side. over the same decades, absolutely mainly ry-, well, worked for the demand of people, so there are more here . well, what people on the spot with so many military campaigns that were held, the united states, by the way, the color tv was invented by russian izrykin. if anyone remembers, yes, in murom i use, but a lamp and a dissonance. in fact, my great-great-grandfather invented the barshchevsky lamp, google earlier than him, but the problem is that at home these inventions were not in demand for my great-grandfather. the tsarist government said that this was some kind of devilry and did not give a patent. i submitted an application, but in america they took it, that is, there is no closeness. curse no. well, yes, there society has been oriented for centuries even to the consumption

of people. and our society is focused on solving geopolitical problems, the biggest power, as i understand it, yes, but people. you know here some kind of very strange craftiness, because we are all the time. we create about who knows who, if he wants to, he can read, for example, about the phenomenon of the soviet union of the thirty-ninth severe year in consumerism, there are very many economists who studied how this started with the growth of this consumption unexpectedly, because it just worked the industrial industrial revolution, which was generally carried out, but then the war came and when the guys tell us and you always lagged behind. well, of course, i could give examples here about atomic energy and profit. and about the fact that the same moskvich , for example, in the middle there, god forbid, in the sixties, was the best managerial machine in europe was recognized. it was also. i'm talking about him. no, the thing is that you understand, when we are told about the war, we understand, and after the war period. why is the economy not only recovering from the ruins? who is to blame that we had to build a missile nuclear shield? what was our initiative,

or what, in the first place? here we are running nuclear this hiroshima nagasaki ultimatum. what's this we had to defend ourselves from anyone , from those guys who showed household items in 1959, guys. they had to defend themselves against you, and no, it just doesn’t deny it, andrey nikolaevich well, won’t it work, so when this curtain, again, i don’t know which side falls, as soon as we are a little more closed and forced to defend. we find ourselves in a position to catch up and overtake the one who is catching up all the time, but this, firstly, is hello. nikita sergeevich khrushchev specifically, who would begin to decide tasks to be solved. now we are not in this position. someone puts such voluntary ideas again, and i can say that the soviet aviation industry, when even the fishermen were not in a form competitive with the americans, and in the international arena, then they told us during democratic times, we don’t need and brute force, where we have now turned out to be, this is the last, as it were, an anti-jerk, yes, our lag occurred just when we really stopped

producing anything small at all, because we began so let's, unlike those who scare you and tell you that we are trying to close ourselves from everyone there. i will try to answer this question. what, what exactly is happening? naturally, its own bell towers, but , in a slightly different way, this is not an attempt to close in my understanding. this is an attempt to answer the question. why why for uh the younger generation, for the generation that 's just going to school? that's why you need to love your homeland there, or why it's better for you to stay in the russian federation, or why do you, uh, have to do something there for the motherland, i'm here for them they will talk about the very donation , about the exploits of their ancestors and everything else. so this is an attempt to answer the question. why , because other answers, except from the past and from soviet books there, were written 100 years ago. unfortunately, we

can't find it yet. and this question. why you need to love the motherland, you will not be able to answer without referring to some example of the past, including from the future, you will say something there, but this is exactly what is missing about the future. well, that is, e in instead of answering the question why relying exclusively on the past, and it looks exactly like this, and we are not even trying to look into this future and this kind of picture. why, when earlier i needed to know the answer to the question of why they answered me over the head, and everything was fine, and now they are trying to answer about the same. why on read a book you will understand, everything is heading out, and the vorum is for nothing. among the germans, this is also very common, and they talk about borrowings in everything else. well, by the way, they didn't go far. uh, now uh, factory muscovites, who makes us? chinese people say chinese? yes, this is a chinese car, only more expensive than thousands per 300 localization will now be ideology and, in fact, the economy.

no. no, we are not confused. our discussion somehow merged to the point that patriotic education, as if, appeared only after soviet power. ninja and the heroes of borodino, e.g., the actual defenders of sevastopol they read ostrovsky no. ostrovsky wrote an excellent book educating a patriot, but later, but somehow you know, before that , russian patriots were raised for centuries and it turned out that's why, firstly, let's expanding experience. you can see what was in the school curriculum, it is not necessary to enter. something sometimes becomes obsolete, and something becomes eternal. and this can be seen, after some time now to the economy, well, in the soviet union yes, industrialization was largely carried out by western engineers on western loans. and there was a geopolitical game in this now, we won’t talk about it, there’s nothing shameful in you, something is missing. you are buying technology. implement your scientists study and then do their own. here is china

now did exactly the same thing that the soviet union did in the thirties. you see, we had neither tanks nor planes. all this was brought along with him . and then they studied it, and now they pretend that we helped. nothing like hitler, and literally a decade later we had excellent planes and the best tanks. and then we generally went forward somewhere, lagged behind , lagged behind, because khrushchev formulated the miserable task. he said that we are always secondary, we must catch up with america, that is, to see its loin. stalin lenin always set a different task. we must be the first, and we were the first to fly into space, because the backlog that stalin made was very large, but there is no need to idealize the soviet union, we must take it from there. all the best. no need to delegate the russian empire. you just have to say that it's all the same. here, maxim says a terrible thing. he doesn't understand. he says, let's give one of yours to them and one of ours, not understanding. these are all our

obligatory monuments. you see, the history of a single people fights to divide as soon as you start to divide further demolish the monuments. i'm here, how would e object. it seems to me that maxim anatolyevich sensed correctly. that is the doubt that we have today is the ideological education built. i'm purely in opposition. yes, that's why he said so about uh, how steel was tempered, because, well, formally it turns out here, red ideology is opposed to white and only one red is correct, although it was a piece in our history. maybe, wait, maybe then just such a book. use like uh uh illustrations of this period of the civil war.

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as an ideology for both sides, while we have there is no state ideology, and in my understanding it is not expected, therefore, there will be no curtain from our side. and today, excuse me, i caught myself thinking that here we are discussing some events quite often, there are historical ones from the times of the ussr, but very rarely, when i tell, jokes related to khrushchev. for some reason, although there are a lot of jokes with him. here is today. it seems to me that it will do, he is very evil. and this is a joke. e showed up. naturally, in the mid-sixties after the resignation. and there in connection with certain events joke. really good, albeit evil. in general, khrushchev was removed from all his leadership positions. he is so sad. well , here is such a whole delegation from e, the bureau comes to him and says, well, okay, you 're not a whale sergeevich, don't be so upset. we invite you to head

a new oncology center. kruchev says, how will i work in this direction. i don’t understand anything here, but, well, it’s not scary. you personally managed agriculture. the bread is gone, maybe you’ll take up oncology, so and the cancer will disappear. it was a meeting place that cannot be changed 14:00 weekday ntv broadcasts all the best, goodbye. ntv news about the main thing to this minute hello heavy weapons washington decided to send several dozen tanks to ukraine about this.