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our nuclear scientists were the first in the world to synthesize the lightest isotopes. dial a as nucleides and detectors from particle physics find practical applications in medicine in the field of ecology and in the field of safety. what discoveries are made for the nika calider under construction in dubna
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? joint institute for nuclear research and is transformed in some way under the influence of known circumstances. i would like to understand what vectors and trends are here. we have more than 60 member countries of the partner countries in the institute. yeah, from time to time, for various reasons, now because of sanctions, earlier for economic reasons or some other means, including political processes, strange ones come and go. er, now, of course, we are more active. that's in effect, well, the opened window of opportunity. how fashionable to say now we are working with large scientifically developed countries, where we may or may not have enough time, maybe we don’t have enough strength, it’s very interesting for us, and now to develop cooperation with latin america is chile, with which we would traditionally
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cooperate in the field of astrophysics, netrino astronomy physics. argentina and brazil here are more solid state physics, materials science , biophysics, the study of, say, cell membranes using neutron beam reactors, this is an expansion of cooperation with, uh, the two strongest african countries. this egyptian all organization. brix, collected. yes, and the south african republic, with which we cooperate. well, probably for about 20 years egypt has been cooperating with it since the seventies of the last century, but now egypt has become a full-fledged participating country and cooperation is simply not at an experienced pace. eh, i thought that the institute conducted research on water from the nile for our egyptian colleagues. uh, well, it's a matter of life and death in the grand scheme of things. yes, but how often do you make such requests? and such studies are being carried out; ideas come
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rather unexpectedly. that's an honest type of study. we have been working on ecology for probably 30 years by being the editor-in-chief of the atlas of ecological pollution in europe and it is possible to predict generally speaking, yes, but the ecology in a particular region, only now a question arises. maybe now the situation is unfolding in such a way that such questions will arise inside the country to see how we have it in the legions inside the country and these methods arose and are arising were invented. here in russia for the first time and we are very active. now, for example, with the arctic regions in arkhangelsk, this is fantastic and interesting work with great prospects. we work on the lake. baikal we have a huge telescope there, which catches neutrinos coming from the south pole of the earth uh-huh detector, and on baikal - this is such a huge
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well crystal lattice, immersed in water. and the size approximately like moscow city, that is, it is such a cylinder with a diameter of about 500-700 m and about kilometers, a height and limnologists. that is, with those who study the life of lake baikal and environmentalists. we are actually simultaneously monitoring the state of fresh water in baikal, it is very good. it is very thermostable at the level of 8° all the year round on the definite advantage of the lake, and we can see very well all the sources of pollution, both in the northern part of baikal and in the southern part of baikal. we did an amazing experiment. last year. we helped archaeologists rather understand the original composition of paints. uh-huh frescoes of the ancient monastery
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on the reactor with the help of neutron beams stopped the origin. the color of paints and the chemical composition of paints, uh, recently i was at the institute. uh, for the first time the lightest mobile flood was synthesized. what is the significance of this discovery for the country or for the world? yes, because usually , uh, the townsfolk judge. e that they constantly hear particle physics, particle physics says, and where do these results work and your particle physics. here, look. we are for it over the past 5 years, we have synthesized about fifty-five new leads, as we say further, why this simple life is needed. let's say, floods for the treatment of oncological diseases, these very floods that we synthesize here in other laboratories of the world synthesize this key elements in medicine now, both for diagnostics and for treatment for diagnostics, because these radiopharmaceuticals glow differently in
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different magnetic fields or in different electromagnetic fields there, and some isotopes have a very local effect on the surrounding fabrics. and that means where it can not reach. a surgeon's scalpel can get an isotope, say, by lymph or blood, settle in the right place with targeted delivery to the right organ and destroy the tumor, which is localized in some space. that's what isotopes are for, say a. what is the current state of nick's mega science project on the site we are currently in? how much more time will it take to finish building it and launch it into business, as they say? we hope that at the end of this year 2023 we we will start the technological launch of all collider systems and in the twenty-fourth year we will begin an international full-scale study at the complex. now construction work has been completed, well , perhaps 98 percent, but from the point of view of the collider. here we are now collecting 70 percent of it
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. it is assembled with what it is planned to load. actually, this collider. what tasks will he be able to solve. the main task is fundamental physics. here we will not deviate from those ideas from those ideas under which the project was created this study, but superdense extreme nuclear matter, when we say, what is this superdense nuclear matter for, if we get it in laboratory conditions, perhaps we answer. this is the key to a new source of energy, and along the way, while we are approaching this task, and we need to investigate the extremely fast processes that take place there in 1 million per second in the same size, trillion meters filter out a thousand events from two billion and do this is 5,000 times per second , these monstrous volumes of information and monstrous the amount of information and a huge number of different detectors, each of which is responsible for
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measuring the energy or the trajectory of a mass charge particle, and so on and so forth of various characteristics. right now, in all airport metro security systems, there are systems that quickly recognize images of systems that allow you to identify. well, thousands of years per second. this detector from particle physics says that without government support, you can't get anywhere to regulate young scientists. people interested in science came state support is always needed especially for the fundamental sciences. it is from it that from fundamental science that they go further into applied science, queen gagarina keldeshe is born and so on, if you want to be technologically independent, if you want to determine, say, the markets of the future economy, if you want the best people from different countries to come to your country countries of the world and wanted to work here, you must support
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fundamental science. you have to trust your scientific community. well, uh, of course uh, apart from support in the targeted em human capital. the country should build , uh, large scale projects. here is the megasanti class, not every country in the world. i think them. maybe, well, fingers in two hands are enough for me to say list the countries that can afford to build a project on the scale of nicky. we have about 20 countries participating in this project, there are about 3,000 people from all over the world, and most of it is obviously from russia because russia is the host country, the russian side that proposed this project, which undertook guarantees that that it will be fulfilled. this, of course, this is it in due time. it was a fantastic decision. i am proud that in russia there is such a project. say, these sounds that we hear from time to time are just , uh, some technological vacuum tests of cryogenic detector systems are
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underway in the current conditions, when there are political facts, when there are sensational factors, and so on. well, this state of affairs has two such radical, probably opposite, views. we don't need anyone. we will now deal with everything ourselves, we have enough intellectual potential or without collaboration. how are you eh? speak up. uh, we can lose, we can fall behind. eh, it's impossible to move forward. after all, i'm obviously an adherent of the second second scenario. and the second paradigm. isolation always leads to degradation. he will say that you are not a patriot i am a patriot, but we are talking about global science russia is a country that claims to be among the world leaders, therefore isolation. and this is pupation and the path of degradation without international cooperation with those partners who want to be with you work without international cooperation with
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those partnerships. do you want to work? and who do you want to gain something from, share something, then bring some i don’t know the intelligence of technology. in my opinion , development is impossible. well, another such common view on the subject is that, and just in the scientific field. we have been very actively squeezing, and perhaps we have already squeezed the soviet lemon to the last drop, that is, on the one hand, this is really the foundation of russian science. this is soviet science, and with the other side. that's how much we have more or less become independent, well, the question is very good it does not have, well, a simple answer, there is white or black we are the other side. now russia is now the other side and, probably, it is not very correct to compare. uh, the soviet union for 40 for three more than 30 years. ah, well, at least two generations are already new. in my opinion. remember, the bright images were created by the art
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of the soviet era. now the time is different now. uh, hmm, anyway, studies should burn, there should be a profession. prestigious the prestige of a profession is determined, probably, in the first place. and the fact that the state should shout from all sources, so to speak, that science needs a salary from the state. i want to say that for quite a long time in russia is not here on the headphones in the first place the first question, where will i work the task that will deal with the second question. what conditions will i have at work workplace access. there, to equipment, to the internet, everything else there , and another question that is being asked now, uh, for the last 10 years, i would say. where is it will study, my children and where will be treated, my family? yes. here is the question of a comfortable social environment in which a person arrives now eh, maybe, but, well
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, of course, than the main job, but it is very significant in this sense, that's support in my opinion. lithium of small territories here are such science cities as dubna academgorodok gatchina protvino and many cities, closed by rusatom, which are engaged in open open work, but these are allocated territories. yes, uh, in my opinion the giant is important to maintain. uh, comfortable urban environment in these territories russia is a country with a vast territory, which in my opinion is impossible. here is this territory. well , effectively use. if you don't have, uh, some knots and nodules. here, well, on different floors there should be a capital there, we have two capitals there. yes, it means, uh, but there should be large cities of the agglomeration, which hold, say, districts and
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must be necessarily one more floor. below here are the knots or anchor as you said that keep people as well and for this we need very little task. scientific is an institute scientific is nau. ka is very strong in a lot of places in russia, but here is an element of a comfortable comfortable urban environment, which is worth little to such territories. this is in my opinion. history is very important. thank you very much for the conversation. thank you thank you very much.
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