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why in kiev and in the west they again started talking about the nuclear status of ukraine, we did not receive full security guarantees and how biden launched a sabotage war with russia about this today in our program. hello, is this the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear? i'm andrey norkin. my colleague is ivan trushkin. we are working live. today we will start with what we did not have time to do yesterday. but it turned out like why didn’t we have time, when we already had our last penultimate advertising block, and we came here already to the studio of victor joseph of the terrible excited, shaking his smartphone, he said that a sensation had come out in america a sensational publication that the northern streams blew up the usa and the norwegians. i
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ask him, who is talking about this? he says markersh. well, then we didn’t have the opportunity to discuss all this, the famous journalist, to investigate. that's because we were all about sports yesterday. and there is something to discuss, which means, firstly, who is hersh? this is one of the uh, probably. few here are the survivors and american journalists. here is such a here the most respected old school, a journalist, winner of many professional awards, his fastening immediately shoots. there are still in those years received when she really had prestige and the highest journalistic award , if you remember, when there was an iraqi war, well , the americans invaded, then there was a terrible scandal with prisons about abu gray where the americans tortured iraqi citizens claim that they are all criminals . here khurge was the first who unearthed all this, then there was a huge sea. here are these photos, where there. well, i won't now it's a little man, and so on. but how
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you understand, there were some special changes in the scandal, but there were no direct changes in the policy of the united states. of course, there were no changes. will there be something similar now? well, to be honest, i find it hard to believe in it, looking ahead, i’ll say right away that the reactions to this publication are of this type, we don’t know anything, let ’s take a look now, listen to what he writes and imagine a little hmm what the reaction will be. i propose now then to begin with the pillars of journalism. yes, yes , there is andrey nikolaevich here, a clean journalist listened to them, but now let's see already. hershey's article is titled how america destroyed the nord stream pipeline and it details the whole scheme of the covert maritime operation. so washington began preparing to undermine russian gas lines even before the start of a special operation in ukraine in december 2021 , the ideological inspirer of the sabotage was
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jake sullivan, the national security adviser to the president of the united states, created by him. the working group considered the plan. as a response to the russian threat. here's how it was at a meeting with olaf scholtz, who arrived in washington president bytes cryptically hinted that if russia is tuesday, if tanks or troops cross the border of ukraine again, then there will be no more nord stream-2. we'll get it over with so you can do it concretely. after all , the control of the project and control within the project is in germany. i promise you we can do it. in early 2022, cia representatives reported to sally in one that the quote is a way to blow up pipelines, however, as herge writes, biden hesitated for a long time before giving the go-ahead to destroy the northern streams. biden's decision to sabotage the pipelines came after more than 9 months of highly classified debate
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within the washington national security community about how best to achieve this goal. the biggest question was how to accomplish the mission without anyone understanding. who is responsible for it yorsh claims that remote -controlled bombs were attached to the nord stream pipes last summer, during nato exercises , baltops 202, the us military was involved in the case and only 3 months later at the end september , the norwegians helped to activate the explosives. they dropped a radio buoy into the sabotage area, from which the signal was transmitted. norway writes hirsch attracted. she was especially interested in eliminating the nord stream, because russia was the main competitor in the gas market in europe and the elimination of our country allowed the norwegians to increase gas supplies several times. well , for the usa, the goal was to make europe , especially germany, manual and completely controlled by washington direct route without transit through ukraine was a boon for
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the german economy, which used an excess of cheap russian gas, was enough to operate factories and heat houses, and german entrepreneurs could sell excess gas at low prices, making a profit throughout western europe. to minimize direct conflict with russia secrecy was a mandatory reaction of the authorities. the us hersh investigation became the expected cia pentagon in the white house publication unanimously called a lie not going into details. did the un leadership, as usual, dissociate themselves from my price? no, if you check this particular message, it is obvious that american journalists will have to determine the veracity of these allegations. in addition, at this stage i will not have any comments. after the publication of the investigation. western press experts were divided into two camps, the first of
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which were exposed by edward snowden , the italian stampa, the canadian financial post and the british times. he reposts hershey's material, hinting that it does not cause there is no doubt about them, but such large publications controlled by washington as the new york times. the washington post and its stalinist politicians chose not to notice the investigation , perhaps due to censorship. only the reuters agency reported about it, and even then, putting the tripod invoice in doubt, well, maxim anatolyevich , your assessment of the publication is with you. what do you think, will there be any consequences? well , this is very, uh, significant. of course, this is a blow to that picture of the world, which is the american creations you mentioned in the media. she's not like that black and white, very few people doubted that the americans did it. there are few people in our studios who talk about our studio.
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i say, in general, you understand how and many do not think, and many forbid themselves to think about this topic at all, because there is such a task of some kind. unfortunately, what they have what we have. in this case, i will not offend. it is gradually dying and journalists are turning into a two-handed reaction, which will be all the same, you know, it's interesting, it will be watched in the process of development. and therefore what, well, while we're watching. yes, the times, the first published, and they published the main media. but as news, that is, if you enter this news into the search engine on their sites, but it appears, but somewhere it ends up deep in the analytics. she hasn't been reborn yet. this news is correct , there are not so many people like us left here, but
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there are still a little bit left in the west and these people interview interview officials, and an interview according to the laws of the genre implies that a journalist is asked evil unpleasant questions this question asks any official, but first of all from the federal republic of germany well, probably from sweden denmark the same norway and i'm very interested in how these questions will be answered. i can imagine, but i have a question. here i am interested in how elegant or less elegant they will go, because in general, the picture is more or less clear. yes, yes, already last night i already saw such american explanations that you shouldn’t take the seimar’s article seriously, hirsha, because he’s all, uh, received all information from gazprom a. that is, how would gazprom tell him. i would refute this. i saw directly, wait, the exact
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opposite answer, which means that the version is like that, in fact, i didn’t really investigate anything. something the cia itself gave this information to hergersh for what, so that he would publish the cia, of course, everything will be negative officers, but the whole world sees the americans. it can be the americans. i, too, nothing to them for it will be. yes, in fact, not this one, but the cool grandfather who promised to blow up the stream, here we are now showing. yes andrei nikolaevich, firstly, of course, these are not the times when such an exposure is even possible. there, relatively speaking, it can make a sensation. there was a moment like this last year. we understand here, but this revelation does not directly concern the americans, this is not about abu grape. this is not a sangami. that is, in fact , the victim is here, then the germans are actually an indication that this happened, this is the silence of the germans, the injured party was silent. why was the supplying country silent? for just one simple reason, the injured party
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is silent because she is afraid of the rapist. she believes that the disclosure of information will be more dangerous here it has already been directly pointed out who the rapist is, the question is that the germans swallowed it, and then what happened. as a matter of fact, for people who were immersed in the topic, at least, as even in europe it was all quite obvious on the surface the question of what really, how it can affect, but for americans, how natural. and the republican team will use this factor andrey nikolaevich well, about the germans. if well was, well, i don't know, it seems to me that a similar story. do you remember when it turned out that the americans there had been eavesdropping on all the german authorities for years, including mirake. well, in general, too, as a rule, andrei vladimirovich is , of course, this reconnaissance action alone can relate to them early, but in general he is different, listen, well, he reconnoiters there, knowing the biden, and you come to me and keep in mind, that i am an old biden against your country and your interests carried out terrorist here is an important moment of what information
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merges, when a task is set for the european and american communities, well, not a task, but an opinion is formulated russia is absolutely evil, against which any methods are permissible. and here they tell you this story, well, yes, they blew it up, but this is an act against evil, that is, in fact. this is such a story about hiroshima and nagasaki. of course, we committed a crime. but it's a crime they even two gossips i need victor then i ask you, it turns out. you are the first to hear this news. uh, we found out that almost a day has passed, what was your reaction when you just saw this and during this time. this is the conclusion you came to, probably, you thought about it all, i would name three main versions. the one who decided to legalize this information, through ruffs, to whom it may be beneficial, one version has already been voiced by ivan sergeyevich by the americans themselves. so it was repeatedly with simur hershim. after all, a number of his stories were with various elements of american historicity for various reasons. and that's
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the reason for americans to show e russia in including right now uh -huh whatever we say, so the escalatory actions of russia will find. uh, will lead to a tough response that they are already doing threats. yes, because not because russia did not know that they made it obvious that they knew uh-huh well, just as a signal. it is clear that the first second version is ah, the europeans, well, let's say the germans , the swedes, the danes. they conduct their investigations, too, everything is clear to them, undoubtedly, and they could be quite interested in the fact that they cannot correct this information here it is said, they could not directly say it will not come out to germany or a representative of the ministry of foreign affairs of sweden or denmark and will not say it correctly, therefore they somehow had to legalize this information. this is the second version. and to show that they are dissatisfied and that, in general, although they are officially silent, discontent is growing in europe at such a level, at such a certain
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level of silence, in fact, at a level. yes, where, in general, they began to whisper in our church, louder and the third. that's quite right, and the third version is us, and russia profitable. you understand when, if this version was voiced by nikolai patrushev or maria zakharova or sergey lavrov, and in the world we would listen to them, but in america in germany , france is much less, but when this information is voiced by a very experienced well-known and having a literally an impeccable reputation as an investigative journalist, as it was rightly said here and sangmi - he was the first to win pulitzer premium received for reporting on the first cis american carving vietnam heating from he was the first to report bombardment of cappuccino. i just reminded bugry, because everything will be fine, so when it comes to information, and he is 85, in my opinion, 85 years old. yes, but when this
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information is presented by such experienced well-known well-known three versions, which one do you choose? most likely, we'll have to wait and see. i just don't know which one is worse, which one is better i'm honestly the third one that's us i'm a little bit doubtful that we could really put together. eh, this evidence base is so scrupulous, because after all, it’s there for us to collect it, firstly, it will not give us. come on, patrushev and ours would have slept with us too, they talked about the events in the nord streams. this is directed terrorist. uh, the operation , which was carried out by forces that are outside of europe, they talked about the same, but when here i also performed at different ages. well, there are only a few states that can carry out such deep-sea sabotage actions, that is
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, technological ones that even have special units that are preparing for this, the united states of america great britain norway all of us, well, of course, too, but to us why undermine so we started talking about us, because in your place , alexander yuryevich, he was barely one and a half ago , elena panin, who we refer to this quote not for the first time, because it caused quite so great about what was delivered, unlike many men. yes, she spoke very specifically that it is necessary to carry out sabotage sabotage activities not on ukrainian territory, not only on ukrainian territory, but it is also possible on the territory, so that they understand with whom they are dealing , moreover, already now. much of what is happening both in ukraine and somewhere in europe , something is exploding somewhere. this is already one way or another they are trying to shove it on us. let 's for example and then you will comment on petrov and the big ones on wednesday night it became known about the destruction of the kharkov aircraft plant, where
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the workshop for the production of drones for the ukrainian army was located. the mayor of kharkov reported six arrivals at the facility, several explosions thundered there. after that , a strong fire began in the city of kharkov destroyed. the workshops of the aviation industry enterprise, in which unmanned treacherous vehicles and loitering ammunition were modernized, the french press is sure that russia is operating not only on ukrainian territory and cites as an example a suspicious fire at a drone factory in the latvian city of marupe, it belongs to an american company, and how and the kharkov factory makes drones for the apu, the company is considered one of the largest suppliers of drones in the world. and now in the european media they are already arguing that the fire at the plant started after the explosion and this was a sabotage by the russian septussins. perhaps it was sabotage by the russians. in that case. i can only say. this is a war by the rules , ukrainians defiantly and regularly arrange sabotage on russian territory, so the day came when the russians decided.
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let's do the same with a factory that produces drones for reconnaissance and killing our people, and in mid-january an explosion occurred on a gas pipeline that changes lithuania and to latvia the flames from the resulting fire could be seen for several dozen kilometers, vilnius initially stated that there were no signs of external influence due to which an explosion could occur, however , later the recent head of the latvian ministry of defense explicitly hinted who, in his opinion , was behind all this. on september 26 , the nord stream gas pipeline exploded in the baltic sea, on january 13, the gas pipeline . in lithuania, the state members of the eu and nato, the first event points to russia, it is too early to say that the second event is the result of russia, but the probability is quite high aleksandrovich well, this is comrade fabrikson, what has always been better than me, we will always listen to you. let me be inspired by this story. you know
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what, i think. now fie tonight, at night. putin jointly conducted. yes fire safety. so yes, i have no more comments. dashing distort. or maybe, how do you know that they discussed the fire of the ears there, the topic was on the old extinguishing during a fire hazard in the forests. i think a few words could be spared to discuss elena panina's proposal. i would be happy if, for now, aleksandrovich puffed out. well, first of all maru pani city my parents lived in january. this is a village. and this building is actually in the fields. uh, i, firstly, here is a rare case, i want to agree with maxim and today that the publication of an article is a fursh. well, maxim used color symbols, as it were, and i am from a different row. it , uh, complicates the perception of what is happening in
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the western community, because it is clear that the article has spread very widely. this is comparable to the statement and belogest, there ilona mask, and the more difficult it will be to perceive the events taking place in united states for example, those. so it is beneficial for us that it is not black and white, as maxim says, but more difficult with regard to answers. you know i can u guess why uh we could be the source of the information because hmm we are so if it's us, it's probably not us it's we would legalize retaliation. yeah, because, uh, there is, for example, tomorrow the sawfish drank the trance atlantic cable there . yeah, uh, they will blame us for this and say that we are the aggressors. and if now the sawfish cuts this cable, then there will be no russian flag on it in advance, because well,
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the americans blew it up. there, it's like a response. and as the french e-journal correctly says that, well, this is, in principle, as if it were according to the rules. it is now america that rules this already legalizes our retaliatory actions, yes. in the eyes of any western sun, it doesn't know, but it gives us space for arguments, that silent arguments, since we're like, here we believe that they are americans, now wait, one thought, bye, since i don't i forgot about the sale of the fuel tanks of the nord stream, if they caught fire there , i want to say, but it was together, he eski now he didn’t find rogers spoke there yes uh-huh and he, as far as our viewers know who he is . listen, young people don't know what
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a pin-cloud is, because young stupid people talk to them. so, and he said, he had , uh, the keynote of the speeches. is russia's special operation not to motivate no is not russian. that is, he, in principle, turns out to have done the same thing, that is, here, well, the department is much more, because now until february 24th. you will see a whole series of publications around the world proving that our sro is not motivated, aggression is unfair and so on. i hope that we will form a counter wave to arrange, proving that the fair roger rotors appeared precisely on our initiative. somehow we asked him really nikolaevich if that's all and here is the same publication. it is like a label becomes yurievich legalizes our response. and if in a simple way, then our strike back. well already
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becomes clear even to those who are not interested in it. will it be retaliatory actions, you know, it seems to me that it’s probably not very correct to put all these events in one row, as for kharkov , everything is clear here, kharkov is a military facility on the territory of the country where the special operation is taking place. this is an absolutely legitimate goal according to all, as it were, international rules, as far as latvia is concerned, there is absolutely everything there, whatever a man-made disaster. who so the lesson was thrown, on the wrong place and so on, as for the northern flows? we all know this very well, and the west does not hide it, that it was a sabotage now that, as far as we can put it this way. yes, we should, as it were, do such things as, for example, there, yes, so to speak, destroy. here are such things as the production of drones. latvia is there in a nato country and so on. i think that i should do something else, because we shouldn't talk about it, because they do it the same british. they, for example, they know, yes, that they were preparing drones that organized an attack on simferon sevastopol. they do it
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open. they don't hide it at all. that is, i do not see any restrictions. why we should not respond to him with the same destruction , after all, something related to military purposes, this is one story. and here is some mirror answer of gas pipelines. especially here in the baltic region there is a lot. i'm very careful now to say, yes. and can a in the north sea? can we at least theoretically consider eyes an eye an eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth? or do you think? this is impossible. we don't work like that and so on, because it's already we have exposed the evidence to the world. the united states blew up the russian one. well, the german gas pipeline too. wow russia well retaliatory action. again, we are yours, you are yours, and german legs. yes, there is a little more. and now we can’t. in fact, even in ukraine . yes, so to speak, to hit these objects here, which are where they are repaired by equipment, where they store everything and taro, that
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is, in the first place. we have to figure it out. here with these with all the objects, and then, of course, we must track. where is all this comes? who cooks and repairs? who produces this and so on, we are talking about these facilities, then most of these facilities are already located on the territory of poland, because the infrastructure that could not be created for the repair of my equipment, of course, was considered strongly and they are already starting to place these repair, and capacity or production of drones on those production areas that did not belong to the military sphere. and if earlier it was somehow connected, for example, tank repair plants. in ukraine, yes. i mean, it doesn't matter now. the main thing is the production facility, where you can organize it somehow to work with the production facility, but it is no longer intelligence that is working. but these here are such small ones are called. yes, intelligence also has methods to change, because of course
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you can. working with consequences is better to work with primary sources. well, imagine, here is a plane flying and carrying a lot of missiles, so if you destroy the plane, then this lot of missiles will not reach the target, or you are destroying the missiles, which were fired, which came back and took one more missiles, that is, you need to destroy the carrier of the original source, if you destroy the original source, this is how this plant in ukraine based on the kharkov innovation plant, these workshops, everything means already the source of production of these drones, which were the algorithm. it is probably more difficult for us to work with the original source of intelligence - this is such a thing that we must never forget. i have already said more than once that in 2008 we had one civil minister who decided that it was not needed, yeah, orders. uh, all scientific research work was closed, scientific research experimental design
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work and, in general, drones were scattered. in terms of types and types of troops, we have such precedents in the nineties, when we fought a lot of things there, returning again in these conditions, which have already developed today. maybe we still have a sense somehow bolder. i think that we have already reached a stage where we need to launch other tools. yes, yes, it begins again that if we do, yes, they will do that to us now come on, come on, like this, so that everyone is such a kind of action there, which is reciprocal or asymmetric. she must produce produce. uh, a certain communicative effect. well, yes, if we just produce what they expect of us. yes, that's how they write the rand corporation. they are sure that we will use tactical nuclear weapons in ukraine and immediately write what will be the reaction to this case? well, you know, you know, and so
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on. that is, it is the market of corporations that argues, that is, they are trying to create for us that very thorny taste in which we do not should throw, but still do it, but we do not go for this kind of provocation, and we must e plan such actions that will cause the opposite effect and the one that planning such strikes expects. uh, such uh, promotions they always take a certain amount of time, but after they are held, but the effect is good. well, such a bad luck alexandrovich said so break. we will return through do not miss the events and people of the week on central television under the ukrainian minister of defense reeled from his chair of corruption and failed at the front. why did zelensky want but did not dare to dismiss the head of the military department after the sleeping
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comments will appear. then, ah, there it will really be possible to return to it again. so, now let's get back to the details of another event, which we yesterday very well, yes, briefly outlined on our air at the very beginning of yesterday's program. i told you that the uk decided there to expand the program of assistance to ukraine, uh, and the supply of weapons, including, possibly, fighter jets and training of ukrainian pilots, and so on and so forth. further. this is what was said. yesterday morning before the arrival. e zelensky to london , now we will see a lot of interesting pictures, and the pictures are beautiful data. and yesterday it was, and there were a lot of such allusions to the bad boy, who were visited by the main bourgeoisie. well, now you will see. here is a meeting with king charles, there were also many comments, and zelensky continues his train, they carry him, as is customary lately
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on someone's military plane. if you remember, he flew to america on board number one, now he flies. uh, by plane british air force flew from london to paris , where he already met macron and scholz. now today he will fly to brussels and there he will be . you understand, let him shed a tear in front of the european parliament. i saw literally headlines. well, let's look at the pictures that we have, they are taken by the president of the terrorist zelensky, who was brought to london on board. the royal air force met and even personally hugged the british prime ministers after this ukrainian leader. dino downing street, sort of like a negotiation, although according to the press they lasted less than 25 minutes, having done away with the formalities, they moved on to the zelensky show with all the ceremonies , the palace of westminster performed in front of the british parliament. glory to ukraine mr. president , please, the uplifting speech of the ukrainian
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leader lasted a little over 20 minutes during this time. and he, of course, did not forget to mention about the military aircraft he needed so much and, for persuasiveness, he presented the speaker of the chamber with a general helmet of a ukrainian pilot with an inscription. we have freedom give us wings to protect her great britain air force pilot king. in ukraine today, every air force pilot in his already traditional green sweater , zelensky also talked with king charles iii , after which he went to the base of the british army in the louvre camp, where the ukrainian military is trained to control tanks by the challenge. according to the prime minister of sonok, such tanks will arrive in ukraine in march, soon the british will begin to train ukrainian pilots and sailors on the eve of london, kiev signed
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a declaration of unity, according to this document, britain will continue to provide military assistance to ukraine on land in the air and on sea. according to the british prime minister, the parties have already discussed the supply of long-range missiles. now it's the turn of the fighters. the first step is to supply advanced aircraft whenever possible. this is the training of pilot soldiers who will be able to control them. this process takes some time, and we started it today. we strive to support the president and his country in achieving victory, so we have no restrictions. on the same day , zelensky's tour continued in paris, where immanuel macron and olaf-scholz were waiting for him . the french leader awarded zelensky with an order. legion of honor and promised to support ukraine for as long as necessary. well, the order bearer. france and germany immediately demanded combat aircraft and heavy weapons, france and
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germany have the potential to change the rules of the game, the sooner ukraine receives heavy long-range weapons, the sooner our pilots receive aircraft. the stronger our tank coalition will be. i am grateful to you for this, the sooner the russian aggression will end, and we will be able to return to peace in europe. no, the paris speech is somehow not very. here is the whole in-minster abbey in front of parliament powerfully this piece about kings and pilots. i listened when i remembered. uh , neither. no, no, wonderful performances by the greatest navigator of all times and peoples, christopher bonifatich vrungel, who said that every herring is a fish, but not every fish is a herring, that's right in texture, well done but no, andrey vladimirovich , so try to answer us all and ask appraisal. whether zelensky achieved his goal or not andrey vladimirovich zelensky always has everything all the same, your opinion is trying to get you, firstly,
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when zelensky is trying to achieve it. this means that western sponsors are up to something. he's just their peter. in a way, what should have been then first showed that zelensky feels so confident that he can travel. well, you see, this is not his first trip, but he traveled in america. yes, yes, despite all the rumors, information about the upcoming offensive about the escalation at the front. he feels completely confident , more confident than six months ago or already including, well, before the statement, he, yes, but he travels, e, he does not doubt his safety , he does not doubt that nothing bad will happen in kiev, that nothing bad will happen to him, that nothing is critical for him, not for his country threatens. now who calls him . why is it needed now? that's how it is everywhere, right? well, firstly, yes, and the continuation of such a pr, apparently
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, you need to show your society that ukraine is fighting, that ukraine is ah, that its leader is such a fighter for freedom, including his own population yes, from the king. and if others states actors, including this, and, as for the goals related to the transfer of new batches of weapons, there are undoubtedly those goals that are set there to maintain ukraine and maintain the armed forces of ukraine in the long term. they they are observed that these are fighter planes. for this decision , they earn money in order to do all this by touching it in the flowers of a bear cub. that's what the dovezlingster was taken on the contrary when it arose. all this could have been done without it, if why didn’t they do it, everything is clean here
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the population of this, outstanding from the point of view of a figure of our time, who alone with their country is opposed by a huge strong man in quotation marks barbaric russia, and so they take him out , they bring him in like that. i understood everything, we repeat, well, firstly, i do not agree. you see vladimirovich that they called teletsky , he said, viktor zhozevich. i will agree. well, sometimes it's just hard to fight back. well ukrainians. in the sense that people are so tenacious that you don’t know what, according to your experience , genetically, remember for four with them live. they really want to be on the crates of the plane and demanded to take it on board. here are the afghans, and as for ukraine well , indeed, if they say very insistently in kiev, we still want to pay a visit to london and paris. here brussels
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is impossible to fight back. it is not clear to me from the point of view of the organization. and how else, after all, he needs to go in 10 days, when the anniversary of the start of active hostilities, which are called masters of us, and the biden will arrive in europe . yes, it seems, like in poland in poland, it means zelensky to leave again. here, for now, here i am already including andrei vladimirovich, another absentee, while he brilliantly copes with his task from the point of view. piara well, great. i looked at the western media really liked the main news. everything was forced out and even the turkish earthquake. yes, yes, yes, or later it will get boring, because in fact, they really have nothing to discuss people, i understand. yes it is said, 25 minutes 15 minutes with a macron is also very short. and in principle, put yourself in the place of a macron, what does the vest say, but in principle, everything is clear more global things. how to get out of this
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conflict. well, probably macron will decide with the americans. maybe someday there , through the americans with yermak, with some more fundamental ones. alexander says something completely wrong to him. these are two different stories. eh, and even talking even behaves. e zelensky in paris and brussels differently than in london uh, there they called scholz, leader sausage, who said? yes, i'm a leader sausage, i'll try, because it's a joke on the principle. who is on me, who is on me with vasya is standing behind the back of the american authorities , he is very impudently behaving with continental europeans, that's another matter. london is here. no need to tell me about pia because there was one point in london that he passed with the press, and that was his main visit. it was a visit to mi-6, where he had already been and not only to him came. he has already been there, and there he had to report in one , let's not forget that today, in a large
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context, it is london that is the main aggressor against us london is not washington and that's why they're here, they'll give everything, what's the difference, and the germans are asking the americans. give your abrams a promise. and then we will give it to london, they will not turn. it won't work, but symbolic london will now lead, they will give the first plane. they will give a rocket, it will not even, perhaps, even rise into the air, but they will give it all, because their task is to store everything as much as possible and raise everything they will give. yeah, i ’m hinting at weapons now, actually, as i said, yes , the version that even before the start of my own in two directions to ukraine and turkey, you know what? you, yes, the future of nuclear weapons, if this is one of the reasons, yes, if i remember correctly, damn it, wallace, in my opinion, said that if ukraine would allow something like that. yes, we supported her. let's take a look at this
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newly appeared discussion, because there maxim anatolyevsky is on the front pages, which means zelensky. and we look through the second and third and fourth. here there is a discussion about whether ukraine needs a nuclear bomb. well maybe not now, maybe be, later this discussion she lives. last week, ukrainian ambassador to germany oleksiy makeev gave an interview where he talked about the possible nuclear status of his country, according to makeev, only nuclear weapons can give kiev real security guarantees, since the western allies have not fulfilled their obligations. your marriage. russia violated the budapest memorandum, and we did not receive full security support from the united states of america, great britain and other nuclear weapons holding this became a signal to all countries that only nuclear weapons. can save them from attack by such an aggressor. that is why we want to start this discussion in the budapest memorandum a year ago. what the world is worth cursing terrorist president zelensky speaking at the munich conference. he
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demanded security guarantees from the west and threatened to withdraw from the treaty, according to our ministry of defense, ukraine then contacted britain, for example, obtaining technology for the production of nuclear weapons. for the last time, we call on the foreign ministers for consultations. memorandum pawns and if on them there will be no results, security guarantees for our country ukraine will have every right to believe that the budapest memorandum does not work and all package decisions of 1994 will be called into question commander of the land forces of the country, general. valdemar sshibchev according to him, by now. kiev may already have a nuclear arsenal. i do not rule out that ukraine has nuclear weapons. after all, they have nuclear power plants, laboratory scientists, know-how, so they have everything that you have such weapons and
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no one will forbid. they are urged to have it to give ukraine the opportunity to get its own nuclear weapons and american military experts. mol. this will be especially important after the end of hostilities. the logic is this if russia remains nuclei. noah's power of kiev should be able to respond. if the international community shows that when the aggressor rattling its nuclear weapons in response, the victim of the aggression will given the opportunity to do the same, even the most belligerent dictator would think twice. you can call it containment 2.0 alexei petrovich, if there is even the slightest chance, even a tenth percent, such a possibility is really being considered when we started a specially military operation, this valdemar skipschak, who said that there is. he practically quoted what our ministry of defense said, that all components, in principle, are present in ukraine. i will even say more there was information that even
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the carriers were four not destroyed missiles, which were located, uh, at one of the missile enterprises that were to the south. uh, there is a mention of the budapest memorandum, but i would like to say about what does the zelensky government have to do with this? this is understandable, yes, but i'm leading to what i'm leading to. the west tried all types of weapons and did not achieve the desired success. yes, that is, nothing broke. uh, the russian aggressor did not stop, as they say, but if we give it, then everything will happen, and uh, how they think it should happen. i have already mentioned rap corporations, which considered the possibility of using nuclear weapons. he said to russia that if he uses it in ukraine, then the west is already laughing, something will fall apart there. and if he applies, and in nato countries, then on the contrary, they will rally, appealing to the fifth article of the washington treaty, but in fact, we already have
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several precedents that may be subject to our basic policy framework in the field of nuclear security, yes, and according to application of nuclear weapons. and with the trigger, it will just become a tactical nuclear weapon, which is here, as it were, casually mentioned. ukraine says we have the right, uh, all sorts of retired experts there say, that's how it should be done. and if suddenly this is a tactical nuclear weapon, the weapon will be used, which will take on the territory of ukraine against russian troops. they will demonstrate this case, then it will become a trigger, which, to put it mildly, the west will not like very much, because we have already warned the west more than once these are such reckless steps, because even the deliveries of the weapons that are already in full swing, which they have planned there, and tanks and planes, long-range missiles. this leads to the fact that the decision-making time presses the button do not press, it shortens the smell does not give you he thinks
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that he is sitting there across the ocean, or i am sitting at the system, about which our nuclear complexes overcome calmly do nothing with them, but the west operates on the fact that, for example, we don't have crazy people here. they forget that we don't have all the time. more importantly we saw all their scenarios there, and the fact that we hold back, we, as they say, we really hold back , we had several cases when we could apply, because then with the crimean bridge, then with the crimean bridge, everyone understands that the ukrainians did not have there . there, perhaps, they were as an alloy, but all these operations were planned by mi6 mi6, with the support of the americans there. that's it, it was even careless that the american satellite constellation is very good, that i interrupted you, uh, about the probabilities, if we proceed from the fact that i go back a little ah, that, uh, the story of the northern streams. this is how it is now presented
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in order to show, look, what a cool biden? how cool is the united states that they can afford? plus means that we know that london is now even more aggressive than the americans. then it means that with a very high degree of probability the british can really provide zelensky with nuclear weapons. andrey nikolain, look i tried, i already talked about it you see, all this is reminiscent of the western point of view of that person who came to the casino and loses everything he has in general they understand that russia cannot suffer defeat, relying on something else, that russia has a low pain threshold. that is to say, at some point testing something we will agree to admit ourselves to losing. well, look, when we are and at some point even look at the delivery of aircraft. they don't will give. if russia continues to oppose doing what it does, the question remains. what should you do?
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then you just have to move on to the possibility of some application. tactical nuclear weapons, because you don’t have any other trump cards left, you don’t have any other trump cards, and you bet on the horse that the defeat of russia should consist of and, but what is meant here is exactly what you understand, russia itself will not go for it scenario. well, imagine the situation is not important. why ukraine turned out to be nuclear weapons, but we know that they exist, and we know what they are, so it will mean that ukraine will be destroyed. and also its suppliers, because there are no other options left in the west. i don’t understand this in the west, really. i have said many times that they are counting on our low pain threshold that at some point we will give up and that we are not crazy, they do not count on it. they rely on the fact that a direct war with nato countries , nuclear russia, like nato itself, is unprofitable, so russia is like a very second, and in
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as far as nuclear weapons in ukraine are concerned, well, wait, they asked me questions in ukraine, then it is profitable, therefore, if russia straightens ukraine, russia, which is deeply driving, and said a brilliant phrase. i wrote down, and i don’t think that we don’t have crazy people, but we have sovereignty, i understand more importantly. i will tell about them. we think that they don’t have crazy people, but their ideas are more important than illusions, so it’s very likely that crazy things here and there will lead to disaster pancakes will stop them. let me calm everyone down. i will now calm everyone down, minus by minus gives plus everything will be fine, a short pause, we will continue.
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if the end of the world has come, why, after the earthquakes in turkey and syria, the west helps only ankara i appeal to the whole world, help save our children. why are the tragedies of ordinary russians and ukrainians so different being covered in the foreign press and why pity has become so selective let's call it a coordinated information operation about it right now. it becomes clear. we continue to chew could not get through. uh by. this is the topic of the earthquake in turkey and syria, but we do not want to talk now about how the rescue operations are going. well, in this kind of informational sense, you know from the news that this is a terrible tragedy
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there, in my opinion, more than 15 countries were affected, or 80, or 100 years there was no such a major earthquake, but a huge number dead, in my opinion, at least 15,000 to 70,000 the number of victims is approaching, we are a little bit about something else. that is, here's how to save people. you know, your colleagues on information programs told you. and here we used in the announcement such a phrase of selective pity. i don't really like the word pity. i don't like it. never really liked it. here, and lately it has been something like this. western for me. i like it more. sympathy. sympathy, as it were, more honestly understandable, but pity is something here there is a wormhole, especially when we are talking about selective pity, that is , someone is pitied, someone is not pitied, and here is the tragedy that has just happened, but a lot of
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examples for reflection. let's start with the simplest seems hmm facts, though to explain. here it is, probably complicated, but simple. in the sense that he is conspicuous, everything helps the turks and, thank god , almost no one helps the syrians, how did this happen? let's see the first story. the european union immediately came to the aid of turkey, 19 countries sent more than a thousand rescuers. they announced millions in aid to their specialists, the british also sent the turks, and nato secretary general stoltenberg called on the allies in the bloc to collectively help ankara did not stand aside. the united states is going there by this moment. we have sent more than 150 search and rescue officers to turkey. american helicopters are assisting turkey in its response efforts in the most remote areas. we maintain close contacts with the turkish government. but the western allies do not help syria destroyed by the earthquake
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they were in a hurry, if at least 30 countries immediately responded to the tragedy in turkey, then in syria there are only 13 and european ones. among them , the european union said they would not help damascus because the syrians did not receive a corresponding request. nevertheless, they sent or after 2 days the european commission promised to allocate everything. 3.5 million euros for humanitarian needs in the united states from direct aid to a cut would be rather ironic, if not even counterproductive, but for us to turn to the its people for a dozen years, it is a regime that has never shown any inclination to put the well-being and well-being of the interests of its people first. unexpectedly, siri decided to help, but israel, after a request from the russian side, according to the israeli press, is an unprecedented step . considering that the countries are at enmity and have no diplomatic relations
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, the american press, the newsuri publication, even notes that there are no other syrias decided help damascus, but not usa washington the post writes that for western leaders , the catastrophe is no cause for sympathy. bashar al-assad's government in damascus is still a pariah for most of the international community and is under sanctions from the us and european countries that do not want to channel aid directly through the government to us and european officials. it was clear they made it clear that an earthquake would not change that. russia responded to the misfortune of both sides on the day of the tragedy, four planes of the ministry of emergency situations flew to syria and turkey, they delivered rescuers and equipment in syria to search for survivors of the rubble also joined three hundred russian military, she deployed a mobile team of doctors at air bases. but because of the washington post article from the clarification of the price
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, it turns out that the americans will not help the syrians, because e syria behaved badly. bashar. asat behaved badly towards the syrians. well and actually the question on it is closed. yes, nikolayevich is normal, somehow so that the universal point of view. i think it's not normal. well, all the accusations acs itself yes, i think they are largely fair, only they are not relevant to this situation. uh no ah, if uh countries demonstrate, excuse me actively. e that they really help, and citizens bypassing the government. it's hard for me to imagine how in such a situation. it can be done for real. e in this situation? i understand, but still, in such a situation , it is difficult for a public organization to cope without the right. i think that this is not the moment and i think that now all such disagreements as
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certainly there should be should be postponed. that is, how to return from the word pity has no right to speak. i don't feel sorry for these, because they are bad. well it says, no case. well it says, then itself more about who says so. yeah , i don't know that. i don't think it's just right or wrong. it's a question of what would you say, you know, it came through, please, it's really not the right word at all, because pity is a kitten or a dog in that one on the street. and not even that with uh, compassion rather with non-empathy and assistance. in this situation, help now needs to save people, because when a person is under the rubble, you don’t know, it doesn’t matter at all what beliefs the person who turned out to be calling. yes, americans are the exception. they believe that they are not interested in the views of the man under the rubble. you don’t think, if a person under the rubble turned out to be in the power of a leader who they don’t like, then
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saving a person under the rubble is absolutely not necessary for him. well, i'm ivan e. well, i i don’t know, like it or not, but there is such an interpretation, it’s, of course, absolutely uh , inhumanly unreasonable a and excuse me if you want, yes, it’s also not practical when a saved person will always remember with the help of someone. what relationship are we talking about? uh, when they themselves turned off the light in the crimea yes, what was 14 or 15? yes, the rural day seryoga said when he was because once putin that's all it does. let putin worry about the patients in the hospital and maternity hospitals who were left without electricity and die there like that. well, look here for sure the position of mr. price, it is inhuman and bad from the point of view of american national interests , because the syrians will be fine later
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. listen, let's let's wash ourselves a little. that's just some we are some kind of sleepy, but the japanese americans with nuclear bombs. so they left a little bit or the vietnamese. today we there again remembered there attacked by trees and that great wonderful love of americans in japan and vietnam yes, what's the matter yes, no difficulties about waking up. it just doesn’t mean all together shouting friends the position of the master to take a person and the wrong diplomatic point of view, but the correctness of the bureaucratic point of view should be noted, because the interaction is bureaucratic underlining, because if they send humanitarian aid or the masses, they, thereby recognize the regimes, and they therefore refuse. but this, of course, is time i say, this is a purely bureaucratic moment, it has nothing to do with our interests. and
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so, as regards your question, they saw it. what is the problem, the united states could afford this during the cold war, the united states can afford it now, but have a specific relationship there for the simple reason that vietnam is more afraid of the chinese than americans, so vietnam pulls the americans up to them and pretends that he forgot both about gas and about, uh, genocide, in fact, and so on, but again i say, it's all droplets droplets droplets that drip on the head of the american hegemony. in the end, the most interesting thing will lead to nothing good. sorry. now the most interesting. you said the way americans operate is correct from a bureaucratic point of view. i am quoting you correctly at this moment alexander davydovich said, wow, i justify, i explain. well, let's do it first, of course, this is a position from any uh, uh, point of view, cannibalistic, ironic.
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you see, this price list, he says, ironic is funny to him. i really hope he never he will not see his children under the rubble. that's why at the beginning before answering your questions, so that there is no speculation. i want to say that we are not all the same here and that and the other side to us and here, gathered in this audience and in general, the russians and the russian government helps russia, and then and the other country officially from the first day near the embassy and turkey and, uh, syria, the russians leaves his condolences. and alike to us uh, shocks and trauma for us. both tragedy, so we have the right to talk about this topic. let's evaluate. and here's the thing about ratings. i want to say that and if we are not talking about the bureaucratic side, then the other side means, but in fact, there is a certain manipulative goal here, because
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the united states wants to use this tragedy in the first place for their own purposes, which to demolish the assad regime, i.e. add a second. i'm sorry to add dissatisfaction to add uh instability in order to uh earth's serits to blame, or what? yes, this is provoking any opportunity, therefore, dear friends, the situation is that it is immoral from a human point of view and from a bureaucratic point of view that's good. yes, maybe we will give examples, because since we are now talking about sympathy, this is not a trend for this year. this politicization also manifested itself, we’ll just give a few examples, which means that in 2017, after the terrorist attack on the st. petersburg metro, the authorities of berlin refused to highlight the brandenburg gate in the color of the russian flag. we referred to the fact that
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petersburg is not a twin city for berlin before the brandenburg gate was painted in the colors of the flags of france belgium britain turkey israel the united states when terrorist attacks took place in these countries in 2004, when the tragedy in beslan occurred , the western press tried to justify the actions of the terrorists, foreign journalists, although they called the incident a terrorist attack, recognized it, but at the same time urged readers understand the motives of the criminals, while the armed invaders were called nothing more than separatists who simply did not find another way out, double standards showed and during the terrorist attack on dubrovki in 2002. this is how the american channel cnn covers the hostage-taking. i will quote here called them, uh, these same terrorists, chechen dissidents. a few years after the terrorist attack , vladimir putin drew attention to such a selective attitude of western countries to tragedies. any double interpretation of their motives and the results of their activities means nothing more than political and
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administrative support for activities in european political thought. uh aggressors of any extremists. uh, on the principle of negotiate with anyone at any cost. just don't touch us. this is very dangerous, and the philosophy that in practice leads to a great tragedy aleksandrovich would it be correct to say that this western sympathy does not use the word pity. it is absolutely politicized and you just have to put up with it. that's how it is golden words, but you need to remember one main thing, that there are two positions. the first is the universal people. they became they people and mercy sometimes st. in their hearts, this is a population that is manipulated to one degree or another. and there is a state policy, a humanitarian
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policy. the main word is politics, and it will be conducted as they see fit to conduct it. uh, right now, it's not just the us that's helping policy that serves the interests as american history imagines it. wait. perhaps this is only an american embarrassment. yet again. wait again to our scripture. yes , the meeting place cannot be changed, what is there, again deaf said uncle misha mercy priestly word absolutely. so we, of course, in person. yes, we are apparently confronted with the same idea that uh, of course, no snot is properly inappropriate when it is right. and here we come, what we come to here, to how humanitarian policy has changed
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over time, and it has now reached such a life. why before? well, before, i don't mean the nineteenth century. yes, i mean, what started after the first world war and what blossomed with lenten light after the second world war. specifically goes degradation of international politics. here we have lavrov. he is a representative with a rather conservative, he is everything . this is how he looks like an old diplomat. and here are the new diplomats. here you look at ukrainian diplomacy. here is a new diplomat. this is the new diplomatic school of the americans. these are already new germans and it is normal how they act, like the new diplomatic school. and this degradation is going on earlier, when it goes on, as there was some kind of tragedy, well, in the twentieth century. here is the soviet union, here you are going to the united states listen to the soviet union, well, decently nevertheless. we are, so to speak, all people are donata. let's express, well, our sympathy, as well, and now it's not necessary now. why not? we somehow continue. we still cannot live, while
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there was a confrontation both then and now, konstantin aleksandrovich, but something has changed, some kind of toggle switch has broken. yes, what does not switch to sympathy, then i want to understand, it ’s probably not for you. and we, as it were, to anatolyevich, what kind of toggle switch, and when it broke, when it changed, so the political history absolutely outweighed. sympathetically. yes he never changed by and large, selective empathy is an extremely unpleasant thing, but everyone has it. listen, even we have a hand on our hearts. now i love numbers. at the moment, the number of deaths is changing, but in turkey there are about 15,000 in syria , in the whole three and a half thousand of them there are more than two thousand, that is, more than in the part that is controlled by the power of the basharas. yes, in the opposition areas. here in those idlib provinces. where did they push out those militants with whom our syrians fought, we fought a lot for them sympathize a lot. but we have a conversation that there are actually more victims, that's what the districts are getting now. and this is also
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an electoral council. we are more sympathetic. and more we all who are in aleppo those who are in other areas that control uh close. you attribute a little bit your understanding of the numbers to everyone, i have a feeling that even i, a person in the information flow, somehow counted as a doctor, and a person who just watches tv. he obviously doesn't choose. that's where the valepo is. well, then, then, i sympathize. where else can you get it? no this is this everything is selective. sympathy. naturally, everyone sympathizes with those who tell you closer. it is clear that in donetsk we sympathize with the victims of this shelling much more than nikolayevich who died in ethiopia, where the civil initiate, of course, even donetsk patriots. yes, and one more thing, with regard to these elimination of the consequences of the earthquake. but in general , maybe the americans make ugly
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statements such things do not need to be said, but here is the international distribution of assistance. considering, that 15,000 died in turkey, and in the regions of syria every time it pours 1,500, well , somewhere, probably, the consequences of an earthquake, there are 10 years, really more is needed. let them. well, it's easier for them. it is logistically to go to turkey and they have deportation. okay no go back, yes, marked a little earlier. it seems to me that more attention is paid to the evil ones. and as igor sergeyevich, about the fact that this is selectivity, it exists, and in general it has existed for a long time and for everyone. here's how to this, that is, well, firstly, selectivity exists, of course, you always sympathize with your loved one more than outsiders is normal. this is natural. it's human nature it is, but that's what we say when we talk at the level. now, if we are talking about the state, when we
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switch to the state, then the concept of selective sympathy is not selective. there is no sympathy at all, there are feelings, there are. that's besides business. and, by the way , to say that this is expedient from the point of view of the state; from the economic point of view, from the bureaucratic point of view, the state does not have the right, probably, to all these sentiments. now, let me say this. i'm talking about the fact that there is only one business and nothing of personal state interest interstate relations - this is the jungle where only the law of the jungle works. everything else. this is a cover rib. e real interests. no more double standards. the west has never shown no guilt. so i want to play for him. he is always one standard, self-interest. nothing more. if this person, let if a person blows up
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something to the detriment of the west, then he is a terrorist scoundrel. who is to be destroyed, if this terrorist blows up something at the enemy of the west, then he is a fighter for national liberation. uh, there are goals for freedom and so on, it was always danilevsky, because it was said that everyone had it and you agreed that if a terrorist blows something up to our detriment, we must fight him and destroy him. and if for the good of us, and here is just a very interesting moment. now i don't know, of course, that here i am not biased, but, in my opinion, this is where i am objectively, russia has been behaving like a white crow in the international arena for all the past centuries. and by the way, to say this causes in the west a complete misunderstanding of what we really blew up. uh, in the united states, we're starting to sympathize. not because
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they're the enemy, but really because bastards are terrorists, and we're trying to approach this and think that everyone else will behave. let's pay. no, i would first blow something up there, and then we feel ourselves, let's not distort. i like i said you on it we are so different question. but the fact that in the west is guided only by this. it is a fact. remember there was such a lordzhat during the chechen events that we were given here, wow, how he is here, but he cried for human rights for everything else. he at least once uttered a word about at least one terrorist act directed against the russian state. he at least once remembered his heart, right? all let's interrupt alexander nikolaevich andrey nikolaevich after advertising once was not in time. i do not understand
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look at a few examples on the example of the last months of our special operation in ukraine in mid- october. after russia started hitting ukraine's energy infrastructure, the world press came out with loud headlines. from putin's strategy of terror. putin's bloody reckoning on the cover, then placed a bloodied elderly woman with a bandaged head later. it turned out that this was a production? moreover, the fake was carefully prepared together with western journalists, things are different. when it comes to attacks on russian territories in mid-june, a market and a maternity hospital in donetsk were fired at, then five people were killed, but the ritter agency doubted. was there an attack at all in march after a strike on the city center killed 20 people italian press. issued a photo from donetsk for the tragedy in kiev, the russian foreign ministry was forced to to react.
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rescuers bodies people in grief traces of destruction all these are the consequences of shelling committed by the afu in the dpr with the help of a tactical missile system point u this is in kiev the bodies of victims of hostilities lie, and not in donetsk in mid-january, when ukrainian air defense hit a residential building in dnepropetrovsk foreign journalists hastened to blame russia for the missile attack . although ukrainian officials did not hide the involvement of the kiev military at that time, it is possible to justify the explosion on the crimean bridge in terrorist attacks on our territory. guardian called a blow to putin's prestige and journalists nbc. they even began to explain the action of kiev ukraine has long strongly opposed the construction of the bridge, which was seen as a symbol of territorial claims. putin to the area, the kremlin illegally annexed crimea in 2014. saturday's bombing, hours after the russian leader's 70th birthday, was a public humiliation of putin's assassination. dugina in the car, which turned out to be an explosive device, the philanthropic western press
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also commented in a very peculiar way, not forgetting to pour a ton of dirt on her father , the philosopher alexander dugin, under the text that is understandable for such wrong people, it’s not a pity mister many are extremely right and have views on russia’s place in the world. he advocates an anti-western philosophy and is considered a kind of intellectual father of vladimir putin and the clans for the revival of the russian empire, and his daughter daria dugina was not just a follower of her father's idea. she was his right hand alexander nikolayevich such wrong people, it's not a pity. there is such an opinion. i don't know whether to invite him with him or not, what if in some not perfect day in russia , power and power will somehow change, it will be friends with the west much more strongly. what would the relationship be like now? here is this selective sympathy for russia. among our people. it will change we will be more worried. is it possible or is it all a fairy tale. it seems to me that this is not a fairy tale, theoretically it is possible, but it may
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all depend on, uh, the radical change of the russian government, depending on who comes, such steps will come depending on this, they will already take decisions regarding russia, listen, wait a minute. that was the nineties. well, yes, i remember i was still a child, but the terrorist attacks in trolleybuses in moscow were postponed for me, because these were the first such shots . no, everything was the same then, so to speak, chechen separatists, who can be understood, who are fighting, and so on and so forth, and then our power. that is, as if they were much more very close and good, but not right, no one really sympathized, but two decades . and this time of the chechen wars began. there has been a very significant change.
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this means that even at the beginning of the action against russia after february, hmm and they also talked about the fact that the people and the government are different things, a point of view was gradually being formed. on the collective responsibility that the people are responsible the other reason has received, the development that the reasons are not yet talking about, when the sanctions do not apply on individuals of the organization, there and so on, e ukrainian position. well, in general, it was promoted by the ukrainians from my point of view , respectively, which means that the theses
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are collectively responsible, if the government changes so radically at school, it has changed radically in germany , well, or in japan we have radical changes. if we compare there, uh, the end of the eighties, and now here is the second time such a thing, i think it will not work. you know, when they took off at home in pechatniki, it was almost next to me, in general, in kashirka you understand, no west especially every tragedy of every ordinary russian person was not considered no and the rebels from this did not stop considering the chechens, they always cited, as has already been said here. explanation. why this is permissible, you know, in general, selective sympathy. it's coming. eh, coupled with dehuman. in fact, it depends on the edge that society puts society, let's say well, let's imagine such an experiment. imagine that now some patriotic
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desktop citizens are breaking out into this studio is being assembled. here, uh, imagine that stool. i'm leaving now. first, they are driven into a certain room and set on fire. well, people are dying. you see, russian society for the most part is like a permissible state in no way. why am i saying this? and the fact that ukrainian history or the house of trade unions and ukrainian society and western society you took for granted because those people. which they not only do not deserve, sympathy, they are not covered by the rights and history of humanism. and here's what's going on in recent years regarding. as a matter of fact, not only us, but the same syrians, to some extent, those who understand people who are taken outside the framework of general humanitarian law, and not only at the level of the state, but society in russia , society has never perceived such things. you will remember that in fact , even during the war years , a movement had already begun for some period, that it is impossible to hate all germans with
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you, let's see the comments that are in our telegram channel, join our telegram channel. just don't write like this. comments, we will ban them anyway, but we will have time to read before that, there about this side and about this side. i am now suggesting this, what do you know , this one that those who write the telegram-channel of the border form the basis of society. i'm not talking about extreme measures now, but in ukraine to be what you now see and understand in european society. it's completely different. the story, for example, when another tape appears recording the execution of russian prisoners of war, does not cause indignation, indignation, or protests in anyone in the west no shouting that this is happening, because it’s possible i’m not talking about ukraine at all, these are people who were taken out of the field, but this is essentially the same nazism that we are talking about, look, really soon. it has absolutely nothing to do with it.
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it doesn’t matter who is in power in russia, super tough stalin or drunk yeltsin, no matter what, they will be treated the same way exactly like , for example, i don’t know when they were in power in iraq or afghanistan, it seems like western people didn’t give a damn about it and here it’s not even a matter of dividing into conditionally one’s own, someone else’s , one’s condolences. from strangers no, any normal person. strangers are also not with their stranger's loved ones and well, the question may be degrees of sympathy, but they said close we are more sympathetic. let's go, let's go again. i'll be honest, i studied in soviet times. we all at school were collecting something for the starving children of africa. because at that moment you looked at maxim. well, i remember that we were collecting notebooks. i don’t know what the starving children of africa ate or what these cunning right here. well, what's the difference, just like that, sincerely, damn it, they were worried.
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well, honestly, tell me, we didn’t worry, we demonstrated why. because it was a demonstration of humanity, a normal person was taken for granted. the problem is that in our west, african arabs don’t care, they consider them not strangers, but simply not people. well , yes, you help people, but you don’t help the orcs, as we are now called in ukraine , you don’t help with a padded jacket. you don't help conditionally there is a cockroach that flees to europe as migrants from africa and asia are called , some european rights or european authorities within themselves, simply without voicing. this is where you first dicommunize a significant part of people who are not strangers , but simply not people. it's just completely out of your bounds, and then it's natural. you don’t sympathize with him, and why all of a sudden a can arise back, when those who were hegamonized begin again here to humanize and the bird how
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to rush towards them, like a decommissioned cake or not, what it is difficult to return the human form back the most difficult thing, of course, is to ask you, of course, that's the point. we have this we have this very good example. it was after the second world war during the second world war that the demonization of the german took place, it was the germans who were not fascist, namely the germans, then it passed and in the gdr we treated the germans in no way as fascists in the frg, they also very quickly ceased to treat the germans as fascists, moreover, to the nazis, as the nazis are some other example, except for germany . i will explain why they didn’t quite play here, because when it doesn't last for decades, as it does with us with the same ones, it's easier to play it back, because you play it back with the same people who didn't have any problems before, when, again, after the second world war. is that the same
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marshall plan that was a humanitarian plan, right? he is for everyone. he was even for us. that means we can help you. there's just one point, that the bolsheviks, uh, the communists should not enter the government , no problems and the soviet union will receive help. nobody, no problem. and accordingly, they helped east-, uh-western europe, then after the ninetieth, how, well, they rebuilt the countries, democracy was, it seems to me that we have perestroika, what was alin? yes, what story? how humanizes they say, right? yes, here is eastern europe, she moved very quickly. there, all the communists were reforged. it's very fast here and now eastern europe is a wonderful satellite, the same neophyte history is still here. focus your attention on
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ivan's wonderful question, this is the mode. here they are we are treated. and if you don't remember good afternoon, right? this is the center of the discussion, the other immediately, probably in a different way, like that and it , there were no regimes in the history of russia. but the relationship. remember there has always been one by the west. the west is scornful to paint and yes, look, the tsarist empire was remember the famous picture of 1903, the king is sitting, there is a drunk bear on the throne next to an accordion nearby. this is a british newspaper such, but 200 years ago, and 300 bearded men. barbarian bears walk the streets, that is, in fact, if we let's look deep into history, we will not find a single period and not a single regime in the life of russia . as a state, we will not find when the west would treat us. if not warm, then at least one was tatar-mongol igor blyad,
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what are you doing? yes, yes, look, in fact, do not choose us, no, and so, in fact, this is selectivity. she e you, that is, these are good people, these are bad, and we will be with these, so this is with these. so she had a different concentration at different times, but exactly the same philosophy had the maximum concentration in the middle of the last century fascist ideologies. everyone went. let's take a short break and continue. by popular demand of viewers, well , new calculations and prophecies of the afghan message to the whole world. look when victory comes in special operations. what new threats are the leaders secretly preparing for russia?
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becomes clear, we continue to wait for another one . yes, in general , let's consider the regularity, uh, when we help. we are like a country. i mean help someone. we read that yes. this is correct, and we should do it for granted, of course in the west. this is perceived as a search for some benefit. that is, we do not just start all this. the other day, the financial times reported that moscow bought a new sphere of influence in africa on the cheap, we are talking about the fact that russia financed the restoration of the orthodox cathedral of st. andrew a in the city of banks - the capital of the central african republic , moscow also helps the local parish by distributing humanitarian aid in the west. this was considered propaganda of russian influence. in the cathedral - this is not just an attempt at cultural enlightenment, this is part of the growing influence that moscow has on the political and
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the economic life of the central african republic of one of the poorest and weakest states in the world in 2020, the size of the coronavirus pandemic, the kremlin , propaganda in the west called the sending of russian doctors and humanitarian aid to italy by the local press. then she wrote what moscow was doing. this, in order to achieve an easing of european sanctions, there were even rumors that the italian authorities opposed the presence of russian doctors in the country, allegedly jeopardizing russian assistance. the solidarity of rome and brussels was directed against the eu and nato moscow propaganda floods the worldwide web with stories translated even into arabic about the work of russian rescuers, the leitmotif is not hidden. we helped italy while the european union and nato were just sitting on their hands in this anti-european and anti-atlantic message, risking influence on our government in 2015. russia responded to the request of syria to rid
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the arab republic of terrorists during a large-scale special operation. many areas have been liberated. now moscow is helping rebuild syria regularly sends humanitarian aid there only in 2021. russia has transferred almost 2,000 tons of cargo to the west in such an alliance, as expected, sees a hidden threat. the established system of shadow aid in the country is an underestimated threat to the humanitarian community and the syrian people. russia's efforts to provide assistance to syria, which are often overlooked , are a tool of russian soft power and strengthen their foreign policy goals in the region, that is, the provision of humanitarian help. it turns out that this threat to the humanitarian community turns out to be nikolaevich. but the provision of humanitarian assistance is humanitarian cooperation, as it was in the first. sorry in the first story about e, the construction of the temple and the humanitarian mission. but
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it certainly leads to change. uh, in regards to the side. well, is there still being done, or what? why not? well , this, of course, of course, we will not lead to changes, of course, the russians can do something like that, but it does not happen in such a way that it does not lead to any. if e humanitarian aid and uh, what is called soft power is what everyone always says, that this needs to be done , you need to do it competently. if done correctly, of course, this, of course , everything leads to nonsense, or maybe for the worse, if it is done incorrectly, maksimovich i want to say what i want to say, here, uh, it seems to me that everything that is happening now is that we everyone sees, all the participants see who is what we want to see, someone sees the good e in it.
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in cooperation, yes, changes are possible, which was not always everything black ink, which is not always the case. uh, russia uh, is right here the bears. uh. here. look, please, well, open the door necessarily on the second, like a second bear how many german colonists came here who built their own colony houses? yes , because colonies were created so they are called colonies. in the sense of politics, yes, who came here to russia for a dream to realize. on the streets of a bear, oh, maxim anatolye. yes, it’s also a cool one of the three examples you cited, but everything is clear in syria, of course, there geopolitical interests were. he is not altruistic, it is clear that, uh, we will not do anything to our own detriment, but save the power.
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bashar, assad was right, because those who could replace him, but much better, much worse for everyone and for us and in general for world stability with italy. also normal. it's all right too. it's the soft power of being embarrassed. we don’t need another thing, but then we saw how this pandemic is developing, but now it’s already, and everyone is strong in hindsight, these military men helped us there, who really fixed the cities, but they wanted, and uh, they wanted to help at that moment, so there’s nothing to sit down here. and that's where i started to laugh, of course, this is it, and the story from the orthodox church to the banks. i suspect i'm the only person who is. yes listen . the last thing that comes to mind when you imagine this country is the need for the orthodox church. she is probably needed to help pmcs, she really looks more like some kind of baptist church, so in fact, by the way they are there, who are the most cruel
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civil war, survived, where christians and muslims massacred each other. that is, you want to offer us because it is really useless, god-forgotten poorest, as the country was said there. in the very center of africa, we don’t want to sneeze at her , no data, so to speak, well, as if at least some kind of normal life is needed, but the orthodox church has nothing to do with it at all, here you are just a little bit. on the territory of the central republic, all orthodox are like in the environment, and there they should plant the church of st. andrew, in general, everyone who is there, and they are christians it is not at all orthodox to help them. listen for our pmc fighters. after they have completed their military mission, go to
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church to pray, but, in principle, like this in full, so that through the orthodox church we will spread our influence to africans. well, let's go to the money again, let's slow down this not quite, then , it seems to me, maxim anatolyevich will not be a friend, yes, and now, uh, let's try to nikolayevich, as a result, this question is already somehow confused. i'm at the end everything let's stop. now in a couple of minutes we'll be back. the 17-year-old guy is accused of killing his stepfather, the spouse lies blood. everything is crying. his father did not want him, his mother was horrified, because now her son threatens 15 years. spouse. he hit him in the face, grabbed his head , and began to put out the fire. the locals do not believe that the guy could have stabbed him, his stepfather. and he raised him like a father. but the wife, in their opinion , could kill her husband, i can immediately say. i consider
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back of everything. 599 rub. call by phone or order on our website leomax.ru. can the state still, but show sympathy absolutely disinterestedly, or is there always a political subtext in this ? the whole course of today's conversation convinced me that no, there was no, and there never will be. and alexander nikolaevich well, in fact, everything in life is like it happens, there already there we saw an example of not only disinterested, but also to the detriment of ourselves sympathy, when european countries accepted a huge number of migrants. and until these migrants began to behave, as they behaved. in general, they would be what is called , and so far we have probably accepted well,
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although there is a controversial point about disinterestedness. i think that there was also a political calculation , it just turned out to be erroneous. igor sergeevich at the state level there are only interests and any charity dictated by interests. but there is one exception. russia repeatedly, both under the tsars and under the general secretaries, and then performed actions like a white crow to the detriment of its interests. this is an exception to the rule, because we are mysterious, but the generous soul is completely georg valeryevich sympathy, it can be different, if it is sympathetic in words, then please state. maybe to anyone to express it. if sympathizing with oneself is expressed materially, they see edits, help money, and so on, then only there somewhere it is beneficial for us, somewhere it will bring us some kind of some benefit, because we do not need states, but we need a state that acts in national interests. people uh-huh it's not his money, it's money nikolayevich, you know, when we send another detachment of rescuers somewhere in both this or that
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country, which is often unfriendly to us and the least they think about, guys, what interests will you understand , this is a manifestation that is directly in the field to work without manifestations of any geopolitical interests. it is a natural manifestation of humanity, which about them about those who make the decision these guys are rightly convinced that this is also exactly the same person if you have a good relationship with the neighbors on the landing. you can when you make the dough, and you didn’t have enough testicle there. you can knock on the next door. i tomorrow we are too categories, i do not know the seventies. why is no one like this in 2022. my mother had a wonderful relationship with her neighbor. they weren't in the house, were they? we won’t go into details, because we don’t need details, but they do it and continue do, however, at the state level. stv like this, i’ll knock on the fishing line to say yes, and i’ll bring a million tomorrow. and better than me the day after tomorrow. yes, it doesn't work like that. here, although it turns out zherensky. oh sorry,
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so we word pity. here, which was originally, but was present in our scripts. somehow you noticed removed from our discussion. well, that doesn't mean it doesn't have a right to exist. if we talk about raising pity, which is present in jokes, then in my experience. uh, pity is always in those jokes that refer to under the genre of black hume well, i don't know . and summer cottage open veranda sit, grandmother and granddaughter. well, such a granddaughter is not very big, but not very small either , they are sitting drinking tea with raspberry jam. the table is set. eh, such an oilcloth and a few drops of this jam dug, there is a saucer past and an ant is crawling towards it on the table. and here is a girl. this is how the table looks, and then at some point she takes it with her finger or from
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one ant. grandma, don't scream in order to put pressure on pity, lizonka’s child begins. well, what are you doing? well, since you do not feel sorry for the ants, well, they are also alive, they have their own families. here, imagine here the ants are sitting, mother is waiting, and now mother will not come. it was the meeting place, which sorry can't. 14:00 there will be no tv hello

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