tv Mesto vstrechi NTV February 17, 2023 2:00pm-4:01pm MSK
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friends like the jenses and all sorts of borisov promised us that on february 16 a large -scale large-scale russian offensive would begin ; this did not happen. well, at least andrei vladimirovich said that the other side was preparing for this. but the terrorist president zelensky said today that the russian offensive is already underway. i don't see it. this means that there are some points where we have already begun to advance, so here andrey vladimirovich, if he received information from there, he was stroking everything there, they said, i think, so that people attack all happened as it was supposed to happen, because if your opponent is prepared for a large-scale military operation that you are going to start. well, it's probably not very correct to start at that time in those places when he is waiting for you, you have to wait a bit. well, let's just wait and see. ah, on the other hand, what we would like to talk about today, and we are ready for everything. a possible manifestation, including uh, by the military, but an active uh manifestation
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of military activity, but by our opponents. there's been a lot lately they talk a lot and write a lot. about poland surely you yourself, if you follow social networks, have come across such materials that pump up your military potential more, that it really becomes almost the strongest army in europe, somehow they push the turks in there, of course, there. well, now he’s coming, biden - it will happen in the near future and then, really, how here one polish official basically instilled something like this in us, well, they say hmm that poland will occupy western ukraine on the other hand, there are no fewer people who have exactly the opposite. they tell me that no, the poles are not interested in occupying these territories, in general, the poles will not, of course, enter into an open war with russia there will be a large collection of them. joe biden will arrive in poland on monday and spend
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3 days there. despite the fact that there are only two topics on the agenda, bilateral relations and the conflict in ukraine warsaw is counting on the fact that the americans will increase their military presence in poland and create a so-called security probe. what do we expect, we expect this presence, because the very presence is an important sign of the strengthening and deployment of such an american umbrella over poland. this is important for us. everyone knows that the united states is the strongest power in the world, the strongest military experience in the world. therefore, it is, in fact, a guarantee of security. ben will also meet with the leaders of the buchares nine countries, in addition to the poles, these are the balts, hungarians bulgarians of the czech republic, romanians and slovakia well, they will also make a speech. on the eve of the anniversary of the start of a special military operation. the polish press rejoices in advance of the beneficiary edition. it’s simple, but this cover came out and biden goes down the plane’s ramp and instead of a path, the skin of a russian bear is pumped up and the american diplomat is a historical
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moment never before has the president of the united states come to poland on an official visit twice in one year and the fact that this is happening now a sign of the rise of the american-polish special friendship is important point, and he says something about what's going on, something very special is going to happen during biden's visit, while biden is getting ready for his business trip. an increasingly militant rhetoric is heard in warsaw. we would like to see on the eastern flank. it was necessary to create as many weapons depots of the north atlantic alliance as possible so that weapons were stored there, so that in case of any attack they were at the disposal of the allied forces that are in this territory or who will arrive in this territory. in january the polish ministry of defense announced mandatory training for reservists to call up from the reserve
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. at the same time, it will also increase defense spending to four percent. gdp it will probably be. the largest percentage of funds allocated to the army among all countries of the world and this will be proof that we are ready to defend our land that poland is safe. however, it may not be a defense at all, but an attack, american analysts believe that , hiding behind talk about security, warsaw can actually prepare for an offensive even as an upation of western ukraine information that mobilization begins with the call for 200,000 more reservists can send them as reinforcements to ukraine or leave to defend against a direct attack from russia or to realize their claims to western ukraine and occupy it at the same time allowing russia take the eastern half. so, it was said here that andrey nikolayevich, you see, historicism is a historical moment. so
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you can say wan if they are at the moment of the molecule he what is the historical moment? well, such a nation, you understand? i personally don't see anything special. visit of mister abiden. it’s because wait maybe they know something and no, i don’t happen to be a person, you understand, the signs of wanting are somewhat different things, you understand that it is now being said about possible participation in conflict. well, you see, there is the concept of american pragmatism. and what was the point then to pump up all the weapons, that is , the question is to supply them with something, if you really want to lead the fields here now, maybe the pumping did not bring the desired result. pumping did not bring, it is desirable the result. it is now underway and voiced plans, as it were, suggest. uh, some success in terms of summer outings. that is, in this situation, the brothers are throwing polyakov e, raising the stakes to the level of a very probable one. worldwide, what's the point? what's in it pragmatic wait andrey nikolaevich here you are in ukraine, you are the american president
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, pumped a lot of money into ukraine, many tens of billions. soon more than a hundred 142 were counted in total. you understand that these investments can multiply by zero in a certain number of months, because the situation at the front will become such that all these investments will turn out to be unnecessary, you need to fix at least some success and you offer to lead, yes, fix at least something not very big, but valuable for what it's all hmm, the united states might consider it a success. we do not have this now, the current configuration of the line of contact. as a matter of fact, the americans are not satisfied. this is obvious. that is, it is not possible to issue success, so what should be recorded here? and what they were talking about would be there relatively speaking, if we imagine that they really enter, but occupying western ukraine well, happiness, in fact, this option will suit us for the ukrainians, this is a disaster, but for god's sake, something is good for us. if this biden is not about it thinks, but by the initiative of their own polish authorities and their desire to finally
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turn lvov back into a limber. if i remember correctly. yes, yes, but i doubt who, contrary to that, let's start with the fact that, well, there is no such public or political debate on this topic in poland itself. you see, you even brought, but the point of view, yes, and the reasoning of an american expert. i think that in general the editor was probably seen by the polish media on the internet. there is constantly a map of ukraine by the all-corresponding former press a few weeks ago, where he says that the leadership of poland at the moment when the special military operation in ukraine began , for some time i thought about entering right away or taking a position, which i didn’t take until it says, the former foreign minister, we know what mr. sikorsky is saying about the same nord stream, yes, which he also here ur blew up. i'm american remember. that's why they are different and they lied not lied
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, well, but he is peculiar, he loves dreams, and therefore, look here they say, as you probably heard no, smoke, no fire , heard such weather? yes, see if let's say there would be no desire. eh piece, uh, chop off ukrainian territories. well, wait, wait, i'll tell you, when there wouldn't be a second, then there wouldn't be a really huge amount. here are some publications where people sit and that's it. this is being discussed. here, for example, if ivan trushkin wants to seize part of the channel one studio, which we have here , yes, you understand, and then he wants to draw some kind of diagrams there from which side he will run, because he does not want to do this. here are the diagrams. let them work there. no , i mean what to listen to. well, if it hadn't been there would have been nothing then. what discussion? does it have to cover? e hour ukraine imagine such
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an idea was crawled away. yes, just wait for ukraine to join the european union. and why , because the borders would have disappeared at all, it would not have been easier. there would be no need to sacrifice. there is no need to lose, elections and others, so let's be too sensitive for the european people, but to lose our lives for the sake of a story that is safely back about us. you say that we have imperial thinking , you refuse this to the unfortunate poles. at the same time, they do not plan to lose lives, they are naturally going to do their jobs, that is , we are not talking about the fact that the poles are even there to avenge the humiliation that was inflicted by the minins and pozharskys. they want to quietly take what is a bad sacrifice from their lives. that's the idea, that they did not help the faith thinking. it's all like that anyway. that is, at 1/8 pepper i am a polish empire at seven-eighths, respectively,
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russians. yes, my ancestors fled from poland to the end of the 19th century, because the local population was going to cut them there. that's why they were guided by doctors for some reason. well, i can't say that. that's why poland has always had an idea. i mean already in sovereign poland we will not go back into the mists of time. well, at least since the 1920s . poland this should be a regional regional video. now no, now no one else is ever there in their czech republic , sit there the poles want wow there, they canceled, no one canceled between the sea, polish velka. maybe uh-huh it's an idea that now not now, but before in a special military operation. uh, just in poland there was an endless amount of material that was seriously discussed. in political circles devoted to the topic between the sea, that is, this is what it is between the sea, this is not new - at
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a new stage, this is a new stage, it is not necessary to absorb all this into poland, you do not have to be. ah, in a similar chair, it must be. eh, how can there be some kind of association, which is headed by poland and under which everyone fell? does that mean yes yes, yes, yes, uh, the territory that well, as i said, it lies badly, you don’t need to take it. you just have to just take it. it can be taken in different ways, you can enter it under the guise of blue colors. polish troops. you can just capture, you can put the ukrainian government there. eh, just not in emberg. and vova aga lvov yes , the polish name is good, to put the ukrainian government there at the head there, i don’t know with whom. you can, in principle, well, in principle, well, he was no longer the big
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president here of the little one. well, any you can do it there. why are these different options and that's why, but someone must give a guarantee that e someone agrees to what will be, however, of course, firstly, with impunity. secondly, one of the big uncles must agree with the regional leadership, because if no one agrees with the regional leadership, then hungary will convince you that you only need consent from one uncle, who will arrive on monday at a time, because with the other now requires drugs, wait. now please wait. now of course consider. can we a little bit, of course, nikolaevich needs to show that you were looking for biceps and she will call me books no one wants and tycoon and they burn the huts of the ship and sharpen you the great polish army, the great
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great polish hat. well , there is no left there, okay, uh, the gentry, which will rise and all as one. and here. well, don't like one, i get it. so let's go sergeevich yes, i completely agree with what was said here, poland exists, poland really wants to take these territories into its own hands. it's even discussed. eh, pointless another question. what form of confederation federation let's, you and i and so on fantasize, uncle monday flies up. and so they sit down and what will be the options for the conversation? yes, to discuss which one is more radical, which one is more real? what do you think, what is the most interesting thing here, it is precisely the contradiction that exists between poland and the united states. the poles want to tidy up, but they want to tidy up everything in the convoy. as befits a jackal, they don't want risk their lives, and the polish
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leadership, by the way, in contrast to the ukrainian leadership. they are truly nationalists. they love their country. they are going to fight to the last pole. they don't want it, they want to grab it, but they don't want to die, and the americans need a second echelon of attack against russia, and here i disagree with the fact that, uh, this is absolutely not. the americans understand the needs now, they pumped up everything they pump up. it's all going to be overturned. they also understand this very well. so you need to throw in fresh forces with fresh forces, perhaps either an open war with nato, which they do not need. they spoke repeatedly. we are against such a collision. so you need to push some poles without nato so that it is a polish action with the support, of course. united states, we will supply you and that's it. the rest of the poles are resisting with all their might,
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because they don’t want to die there, so now if biden arrives , it’s not just for the president to do something a second time. no-no-no, don't think like that, that's in order to do it now a powerful impetus and force the poles to get involved in this adventure to become the next echelon for the all. he wants to repeat what happened already when trump flew in, remember it was when there was nothing, when there were joyful dances and everything to talk about something to trump, then it was very necessary to push poland and germany to provoke open practically political clashes, and he this was achieved by the crowd squealing, maybe we can say that this one, yes, such, uh, growth, all these polish moods on the clock, so after the visit, this is and ends well done in this respect, they know polish complexes very well and play them superbly
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, so biden now does not just come only to warsaw. he gathers the entire audience that he wants to rule over, poland . to show that they are subordinate to warsaw, he will directly demonstrate this. there he will announce to them that poland is the main thing, the side of europe and so on and so forth in order to throw them into the furnace of war, whether the poles will be able to avoid this or not, i strongly doubt it. in any case, the risk that the poles will be on battlefield. now extremely large. there, anton valeryevich did not agree, and then another material will show that you were shaking your heads , not nato does not want to fight directly with russia , no more than one does not want to fight russia, while you want to absolutely right. it is great to understand that participation in poland is even here, as one of the country. this way or this way or another it brings the conflict closer, just the third world anyway. well, wait. the fact that the number of mercenaries killed. uh, most of all i say that they are quite satisfied with the option.
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proxy. war proxy. yes, no direct collision. no one needs it, that means colleagues. let's figure it out, either we have the united states of monsters, and who is worshiped by such strange people as poland, or we have the united states is not lower- it is not clear what should go to poland and ask. what else is not a contradiction. this, of course, in order to give a command and convince poland to somehow act according to the plan. to do this, the whole american president does not need to go to such a country as the second time, of course. if you wish, you can then calmly summon the polish to yourself, and then why do you know i am more than sure that the main task is approaching one of such important start dates there is an anniversary now all politicians around the world who are somehow involved in all this , and tries to build on the information agenda, information context, respectively. it is clear that we need to make some statements , we need to take some measures, we need to do some political ones, maybe there are new sanctions,
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something else is arising and arising. question. and where to do it to each country? well, somehow the picture is not right where biden goes, biden goes to a country that publicly and not publicly is the main instigator of anti-russian hatred of this whole thing to kiev then it will be completely in kiev. i would love to go, but for this he needs to understand that kiev will win, it’s strange to go to the country, you don’t understand. it's not all biden. he can go to kiev only if he is sure that kiev has a chance. and by the way, this thesis, which it was said that the americans would not be able to, but to set today’s. this is the border, even if you now fix it will be a victory, in fact, it’s not like that, for example, the same rent has already begun to be thrown in. and the rest means that history began to be thrown off through the media, which means that if now everything ends in peace on the borders that exist, it will not be a victory. e russia, in fact , this defeat is a cool historical
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analogy - remember finland by and large according to the results, but the soviet-finnish war. we took a lot more. than even in fact, they asked for a public boss, but in the end, both in the west and inside russia in the nineties, they formed such a narrative that the soviet union lost the finnish war is a matter of interpretation only. absolutely nonetheless. let's not touch on military history yet, because besides the army, what else can be done? i have two very unloved words, one is called apolization. fu, and the second palonization is both very alien to the russian language, but nevertheless you can pronounce one of these two words choose topics now. what is he doing more on ukrainian territory now. this is the spread of its influence of its language and the equalization of its citizens in the rights in this territory with the citizens of ukraine. let's see the plot. at the end of january, deputy prime minister of ukraine iryna vereshchak said that the polish language could be included in the school curriculum,
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as well as in the list of subjects required for admission to ukrainian universities, which, in her opinion, should help young ukrainians get closer to europe . that the question is not only will the polish language be included in exam program or not? the question is how we are ready to integrate, how we are ready not in words, but in deeds to demonstrate this integration in all its manifestations, however, so far, the poles rather use the privileges of neighborly relations last summer. the verkhovna rada unanimously adopted a law on the special status of polish citizens, they received the same rights as ukrainian citizens. a pole can study for free at a ukrainian university, go to a ukrainian hospital, and do business. and even receive social benefits. inhabitants of the western part of the country they look at it as something inevitable, who knows, how can western ukraine ever be united with poland ? so not only western, but
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all ukraine. poland has prepared a bill abolishing criminal liability for polish citizens who joined the uaf after february 20, 2014. according to the polish press , more than a thousand polish mercenaries were killed during the year of the special operation in ukraine, and several thousand more were wounded. the integration of ukraine into the polish world, apparently, will only gain momentum. according to a january survey, 85% of ukrainian citizens support the creation of military-political alliances of kiev and warsaw. another interesting study was conducted by the warsaw mirashevsky center in december . close people, and 2/3 of the respondents are ready to replace pushkin in the school curriculum with mickiewicz, ternopil
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, lviv region, they spoke even under soviet power, but it’s very quiet and clear between with the big ones it was beautiful. yes, it meant it was better under poland, and i think that the population of ukraine, especially the western regions , would be happy to join more truly ukrainian strengthening in the mass , especially in the western territories, and for that there would be no blood, the polish army would not shed, even, if she had entered there without asking the conditional zelensky or not enlisting his support, well, the question is not one-dimensional. in fact, there are quite serious nationalist circles, especially in western ukraine, which, for which the poles are exactly as hated as we really are, but, uh, the inhabitant of western ukrainian and not only western ukrainian, of course, rather positively evaluate the development and deepening, let's say , of integration with poland. this is not important here.
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it seems to me, uh, the term integration fits very well absorption. i don't know there, actually back in the early summer of last year, and reliable information. hmm, serious preparations were underway. uh, perhaps, perhaps in the creation of a confederation between ukraine and poland, but one of the key issues was the issue of holding the black sea ports of ukraine and e, the poles were ready to join this story. i guess she didn't quiet down. and what we see, it continues to develop latently, the history of the confederation. is this like switzerland or what? i imagine the situation absolutely exactly, the more equal history it turns out, and the poles of equality, but nonetheless. it really is more than that, and over the past few years, both poland and ukraine have been more in the sphere of influence of britain united states and visit bytes. this is another one of the turns.
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let's just say that the us reconquists, we have also seen, have also been taking place in ukraine for the last month and a half, knocking out, let's say, british foreign agents, let's call the entire vertical that was associated with the british in that we start quietly in the number of versions, then it's just really like this we have english- phil, what do you love with us britain yes. let us then your versions. well actually, first of all, of course, uh in these main issues. what's happened? something like this it turned out that lately the ukrainians wanted a significant number of embassies in nato and poland to be closer there, what happened? how could the polish language fight for anything? why because a significant part of ukrainians, even before the events, is now in poland either as a guest worker or as refugees, it is clear what they like. is it that they want to go here more better now to know the language of the side where you plan to work or through which one it is better to move to them more, in addition , it is clear that poland is a state
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nationalist polish and nationalist to a large extent, and the nationalist polish state does not need any territories where the vast majority shoot me poles, and ukrainians in polish discourse , if ukrainians pass poles , which it's just useful for the poles as a labor force of the same quality as there, i don't know the population that will provide there, i don't know the extraction of some minerals correctly. well, this is not needed, no there not annexing anything. why a? how will you manage it all, if you manage, if you attract to yourself understand in the modern world. and you are not territory. if you want to come, you want the most active people, the more all this is understandable. this will work, your scheme will work as long as it works, as long as some people are sitting in kiev who are ready with this, and some person comes to kiev for a thousand years 5-10 years who does not want these smack-smacks. this chat and immediately you have problems, like a pole immediately have problems, how to proceed to explore this territory. sorry why
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learn. if you are interested in the labor force. here explains what ends dudes, smacks will be bangs, you understand, and you won’t like it already people who are one thing that a smack, and another just want a job there is no, not that poland is some kind of evil. you understand how we learn english or chinese, not because we are under pressure, because we understand that if some strange bore is better to learn a language that you think is good, that there is no need, just simply, because that i understood everything the poles and so calmly with ukraine, they do what they want so alexander nikolaevich of everything in the world. i 'm interested in questions about how ukrainians relate to but in general, very little i'm interested in the issue of the territorial integrity of ukraine no well, it's true to finish this topic. i can say that it is a direct military intervention of poland and
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some actions in western ukraine are possible only if the ukrainian state falls from russian blows. well, similarities will be played out, but i'm sure you just cannot but be interested in a certain redistribution in europe where your beloved germany is getting stronger and stronger three political projects are very large so the first is a project between the sea, which has been discussed for a long time and which cannot be implemented without the main american political financial infrastructure support. everyone understands this. it is possible that the poles expect some kind of progress from biden's visit. here is the second project, and this is a project related to and the fact that, and the second project, let's call it the strengthening of the eastern flank. nato is also an old project to
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create an air umbrella there and so on. here is the third project, which for some reason no one talks about. this is a project to create some kind of association of some political force, and it is assumed that the project between the sea and eventually will be included in belarus. but for observation to guarantee the observance of order in the post-soviet space or only in europe. well, this is like two difficulties, because when russia was good, it was smack. yeah, but it was assumed that russia will guarantee, and in the post-soviet space peace, the absence of conflicts and nuclear. for a number of reasons, russia has not coped with this steering wheel from the point of view of, say, the americans. and now
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a new force is needed. and ukraine, as a separate state, as it exists today, is unlikely to pull such a role, which means that these first two listed projects will be followed by a third one, which biden will be able to specifically solve. during the three-day trip, i don’t know, but in general, from all this, from what they can try now to do all the same the main locomotive in this whole story. here igor sergeevich spoke about this conditionally speaking, here the bucharest nine will explain that you, even though this is the nine of bucharet. yes, but the main thing here is actually warsaw. yes, i just breathed in these ideas about joining the commonwealth to the commonwealth or flandia, south iceland and so on. here it is. what do you think, it's all will mean, real or unreal. he already has the chief in the bucharest nine is across the sea, i was on it, it took place in
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the sixteenth year in the winter. no. it's clear. yeah, it didn't go very well there. if now these people were saying biden flies up, so that the transfer is interesting to me, just like, uh, you won’t agree. wait a minute, firstly, there is, yes, the poles walk, so that the poles are your leaders in the beginning, the bosses are friends. chief, great friend is good. and what, uh, from your point of view to a great friend, everything is absolute. there are some taboos there, but if we talk about security, then naturally, we will support all his initiatives. ah, line up in a common order.
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oh, you can question this, as for the dynamics, then each other. yes, fascist is germany, here is the czech republic, here is the teshin region. and what about how poland behaved in this situation? well, what did she say to the soviet union she wanted to support you? naturally, he led on himself, as an authoritarian state behaved in the thirties, and now, and now some others. give questions, thank god there is no claim on our territory. how we don't have to search don't even know big friend big, after a while you'll say such a big question of bosses. brussels will also be thrown out there, we don’t say. add because let's no. well, actually, everything that is discussed here in such categories, poles, bosses and so on. well, first of all, it can't be compared with half a century
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of russian dominance after the second world war, they may want to be big bosses , you know? no, you want them to have formed because of this, it all gives away. so i said not without reason, i will read india or flandia, but, because all this smacks of reality. seventeenth eighteenth centuries. now international relations are built differently. it will be some kind of regional association outside or partially, included in nato and having certain. well , look, for example, the scandinavian countries. there are also associations there, which, by the way, include estonia, there is some kind of unity in this. combining certain functions with certain tasks and it is quite obvious what to replace glo? the european union and nato are receiving a series of such associations today. yes, i see, uh, two such associations. this is a hypothetical
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speech, the commonwealth and the unification of the scandinavian countries further, with regard to germany and france , one can argue, it seems to me that even these small associations do not matter. anyway , after a while they will. well, listen, well, they simply won’t be able to live and exist in another way, don’t try to size and the speech was called somewhere today, it should be so quiet, but it’s not there. let's have a little comment. that's who you can and yes, alexander nikolaevich he is absolutely correct in saying this, but with only one e he leaves out one small fact, a small factor. this right-wing justice is right and justice is not liberal. well, yes, that's what this party is, which, relatively speaking, between maurier stands for it and the civil platform is also there. is there one in polish society? unity around this idea there , she is not against it, but how now the kachinsky party is in power, which may lose the elections, because the democratic
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a may not lose, like it did last time she didn’t lose them, because the polish society really likes what does law and justice and right, and literally she gives this very nationalist charm to this, and therefore, as long as she is in power, as long as she will steer it. there cannot be any without expansion between the seas, but there will be a battle, spain will be right and justice will always hold me nationally everything, everything, everything, everything, everything, we need to stop. i'm sorry, a little pause on this topic on the next one. we'll be back next week for sure. i'll be gone. can you help me? are you
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some kind of version. but here we have practically thwarted the attempted coup d'état. let's talk about all this in detail. the day before, the moldovan police reported that they had found fragments of a rocket on the border with ukraine in the briceni region, but the agency did not specify who they belong to . fallen no matter what the conclusion is, any missiles flying through moldaria are all the fault of the russian federation, which unleashed a terrible disaster war in europe in the 21st century, the investigation will show whether the missile was in the arsenal of russia or in the air defense system of ukraine but this is not enough, what changes on this accusations against moscow did not end the other day , president of moldova maia sandu said that russia was allegedly preparing a coup d'état in her country, allegedly military saboteurs under the guise
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of civilians were planning an attack on government institutions and even hostage-taking according to sandu herself, the true plans. the kremlin kindly shared with her. the president is a terrorist zelensky as a middle name, the goal would be to overthrow the constitutional order and establish an illegitimate government that would give the country at the disposal of russia, stopping the process of european integration would also allow moldova to be used in the war against ukraine , the kremlin’s attempts to bring violence to our country will fail in working for russia even suspected football fans from serbia on the eve of a match between moldavian sheriff and serbian, partisan, serbian fans who flew to the game. the moldovan ones were not allowed to go further than the airport, the police mumbled something on the wrong documents, but the local deputies do not hide the real reasons for the deportation, the serbs, it was planned to bring saboteurs to the match , the legal authorities of the republic of moldova will continue to use everything that has every opportunity to protect the constitutional
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regime and the right of citizens to integrate into the european union with unprecedented speed , washington reacted after an article about explosions on their they sat there for a week, filling their mouths with water, but the moldovan topic immediately went into battle and expressed deep concern about rumors about putin's new plans in our foreign ministry, the accusations were called unfounded and called on the moldovan authorities. do not succumb to influence from the outside, so antonovic when the moldovan deputies talk about some kind of russian influence, the invasion and so on. well, it's okay, they are moldovan deputies, please let them in when the head of state, madam, himself was coming to the podium. how is it different. if the passport is russian. that's the head of state, that's an absolutely official statement by the state that russia is preparing then you are referring to the words that did not happen? then take some no. what didn't happen either? then the question is why all this informational husk is rattling on, and with a very high,
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but it has become raised. well, it seems to me, it’s obvious that she is cosplaying zelensky ah, in this sense, it’s like, well, there it is, a small country. she didn't give up on anyone. in fact, it means that it is obvious that no one , including moldova, is somehow disadvantageous in general, in this story, how to drag it out, to whom it is, if it is beneficial, then it is actually beneficial for zelensky, so that not a single one finds himself, how to be in this situation, so that moldova is also here, so this is beneficial for what? i think that this is purely an internal political story , solely to either explain some steps that she wants to take. mm. remember what she wants because remember once you get it for free. no, no, i'm talking about solving domestic political problems, and you too, in the sense of a political problem. when you have e remember nothing to drown. remember zelensky under what rhetoric the censorship of the closure of tv channels was introduced and everything else. i
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think there is. uh, she felt that she could repeat some steps, so. remember zelensky, you remember the baltics, she wants to be the same as the balts, as she wants the same as the baltics, but the problem is that she is not needed. in this capacity, no one wants to give on one line, and on the other hand. well, they have this political seething there all the time, for sure. she would i would like to tighten the opposition here to tighten. here i will go for this, in fact , the documentation, and the argumentation is here we are like this. let's mean what you understand. i agree with the terraspali factor score. this is a very serious story. in fact , the feeling that moldovans are preparing for a trip to the terrace. there are very hard ones and it is not necessary that it will be done by forces. not actually by the moldovan army, because if we remember the ninety-first ninety-second year, then the conflict was largely with the hands romanian. yeah, the opportunity to open this second one. the proxy of the front, which puts an extremely
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uncomfortable situation for russia, taking into account the fact that i’m directly terrasply, is very difficult to help especially. changes will force us to break through the corridors, you understand, if they were 100% sure that russia would not interfere militarily in this region, tiraspol would certainly be busy, but they have a feeling. here it is hesitating about the fact that this can really provoke a reaction of too high a level, which they do not i want to. but the fact that the winding up of the last weeks of what is happening in moldova is absolutely a story about an attempt to attack, because it’s enough to announce a pretext, these saboteurs are everything, where are they from? naturally terraces. naturally to the west. i really want to close this issue, because he really does not like to untie it. this is, as it were , in the conditions, for example, of the ukrainian offensive announced in the spring. and why not, as a point of pressure , additional this, it can be used not the fact that this is exactly happens, but the movement is exactly the heart.
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well, firstly, i absolutely disagree with the fact that who needs this moldova since 1812, when the russian soldier came there, the west has constantly tried to wrest this territory from our control for one simple reason, when this territory is under the control of russia, we control the exit from the danube here. what are we talking about. this is a major geopolitical issue, and it has been constantly on the agenda of the west to knock russia out of this region and so wait. wait hmm so here i am next you did not interrupt further. talk about what you need. sandu zelensky needs this, but nato doesn't need it, after all. let's still recognize that this is the west, and not zelensky is waging a hybrid war of annihilation against russia , so she spoke. she openly said that the united states expects to inflict a strategic defeat on russia how
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to wear us out, and for this they need the very option of drawing poland without drawing in nato, they need a geographical expansion of the conflict. and for this, what is it about now it was said, here, uh, the conflict around transnistria is not yet successful in pushing romania, because the romanians are also resisting. they do not want to fight to the last romanian, and pay attention when the information went that supposedly a russian missile flew through romania, moldova, and so on , we did not see any missile in romania, we did not see anything. yes, yes, yes, but in moldova they immediately saw her , it’s simply easier to manage sanda and the like in moldova in the united states. than run uh, duda or the president of romania that's what it's about, therefore, this threat is real , this is really the plan of the united states in which nato is subordinate to the geographical
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expansion of the conflict stanislavl. the accusations are enough to buy every time, please listen, what is moldova, this is a small poor country with stupid power, and pro-russian in quotation marks was also stupid power. now pro-western there. poor people, some of whom go to work in russia, some go to italy, romania, and so on. uh, now there's the last year there a huge number of refugees or locants from ukraine there is a tense situation. there is a crime scene. worse even now. and we are talking about the fact that this problematic country still wants to intervene somewhere. yes, we are not talking out. its president comes out and says russia is preparing a coup d'état. can you solve all the problems that you have just identified? well, not all, but at least, you know, people ask, why did we become worse off? how why,
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because here you are watching the fighting. and they are still here telling us the situation. it 's like that, that's why they now also want to attack and arrange a coup d'état in our country, so that you dear moldavian people. they say it's a great idea. we know from different countries, let's say that they talk about the fifth column. well, we just explained these strange ones, we know that it ’s not only for mom to explain, please, taking into account your own characteristics about the stupid power of the bun. what will she get from these statements to rally around herself, and this unites. well, in russia it unites. i understand, yes, in all countries they unite to some extent, when you say real threats stanislav alex if this is a real threat, she cries, if it is a threat, if it is a threat and a farmer, and she is somewhere just in the eyes. this maissa is not very good, honestly , ukraine, you understand, a rocket is flying by, you understand, this has not been invented for what it is? well, alexander, you will intercede a little. yes , the situation is actually not very strong
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. it is known that well, i will not say how many percent. 30 or something 40%. and the voters of moldova are pro-russian and it is natural that it is faced with the task of strengthening, or, as they say here, the consolidation of its flank. this is the first moment of the second moment. uh, this is transnistria, which all our patriots talk about as hmm, the most important tool and leverage against pressure in the regions. uh-huh , respectively. i don't think it's very difficult to take the logical step and realize that russia is extremely interested in the region. and what can be expected from russia in this situation in the region ?
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speaking of the moldovan communists, who are not going anywhere very well. with everything peculiar i remember well the fantasy in the element of the president. yes, and , of course, their communists are peculiar, but nevertheless, there was also a peculiar one, uncle, it certainly goes there. excuse me, there is certainly a struggle going on beyond the limits of this semi-criminal market. uh, that's to assume that in this situation, russia will miss the opportunity of any kind of intervention to strengthen its position. as you can see, probably, the operation is to build some there, that's really there, well, described by the hands of serbian fans. it's funny. it's just funny fans are funny, and on the second of may in odessa they did what they did, then for some reason everyone was not funny. it was not funny for everyone. let's be objective. and of course it was not funny to everyone. well, you have to stop, upstairs.
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of the meeting place program. we will start work at 11:00 moscow time. as you know, there will be a message that day, and the presidential federal assembly, according to our plan, at 11:00. we will start our guests at 12:00, approximately somewhere in the beginning, and vladimir putin's speech will begin first after he finishes speaking. of course, we will be here again in the studio. well, until our usual time until 16 o'clock. yes, well, here's the finale, we don't know for sure yet, we'll start at 11:00. and when we're done, we'll see. so now. let's. i'll say we'll change guests, change the subject. we want to return now again at the end of the week to the fight against inogens, because it continues. how do you deal with them anyway? is this label enough? how did they brand you shallow there, right? is that, she had a lily there, yes, lily was imprinted with a brand. here, yes. or do we need to do something else, because now
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, of course, m-m, it seems to be more and more inclined to the fact that it is necessary somehow to additionally punish all these foreigners there with a ruble. i don't know prison. uh, deprivation of citizenship. there are many offers, but so far it is impossible to choose one. give us the first material, please. at the beginning of the week, you and the head of the safe internet league, ekaterina mizulina , said that the issues of depriving agents of citizenship. as long as they remain open. ms. mizulina herself believes that it is necessary to do this, but it is necessary to act carefully and strictly in accordance with the constitution , other social activists explain why this will not work. who would they be criminals foreign agents or i don't know assassins by decision court, the constitution does not imply the possibility of deciding the citizenship of a russian citizen, in order to adopt such a law, the constitution needs to be amended. but the speaker of the state duma , vyacheslav volodin, proposed adopting the so-called law for scoundrels, so that
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property could be confiscated from those who openly support the quote of nazi villains and murderers . however, not all deputies agree with such an initiative. when we say that if there is a foreign agent marker, then something needs to be confiscated, then by and large this is not even legal logic, since the regime for the seizure of something is always judicial in nature. there is always some kind of guilt that must be proven and for which the corresponding provision must be written in the criminal law. but state duma deputy oleg matvichu called for freezing the incomes of artists who escaped and discrediting russia during the investigation, we are talking about deductions from the rental of their songs and films , renting real estate and the like, but everything turned out to be wrong here, it’s just that such things need only be done with regard to those who harmed the russian federation by recognizing them as people who violated russian laws, then
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ekaterina mikhailovna can go about confiscation and other financial restrictions for them, you explain to me first. that is why it is necessary to additionally punish foreigners somehow, because we put this stigma on him. there is a bad person, you don’t have to hang out with a radish. why is it necessary to supplement it even more, it is already limited in rights when it exists? well, in general, yes, it seems to me, firstly, it is important for the whole society to tell why this or another person became a foreign agent with us, unfortunately, so what are their explanations from the state. we didn't see it. to do it, because many people do not understand, and we believe that amendments to the legislation are needed, because such information is personal. yes, banking. yes , without explaining why he is like that, what did he do? yes, the problem, what is the problem is that these people. many of them left our country and are abroad, but at the same time, uh, they pour mud on our country and continue to get a certain income here. probably this
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it would be wrong and important to restrict such opportunities for these people. there is a punishment then for this restoration of justice, in general, by traitors to our country and we draw a line about treason. yes, this is actually how it happens. well, then, let's fully introduce all serious measures of responsibility and prohibit any, for example, commercial activity. or why then not name a traitor here inogen, then i have a question. it all correlates with status and yes, because if a person is sitting abroad, he doesn’t know how to have statuses for an agent, but he pours mud on the country, there he donates to the armed forces of ukraine, and so on and so forth. these are all separate criminal articles that you can take this person for some place and bring under these criminal articles then, and here the concept of an inogent, because not everyone is pouring water on agents, you know, yes, why do we single out the agent here? as here is a separate and most zalosnoe quality. well
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, it seems to us that we just need to simplify this whole procedure, add certain additional measures of responsibility, so that the whole society understands, either this is a traitor to our country, or it is, well, some kind of person who i am not a magician. i'm just learning. i am not a traitor. i'm so-and-so good, let's go then. right now, a little bit. we have people here, uh, who are related to uh. come on, let me, when the commercials. he quotes that i'm talking here on ntv, they directly write and this person is not yet an agent, and so we are amazed, we are surprised, which means what is the main problem with this law. actually about it. already ekaterina began to speak, the problem is that the criteria by which a person can be recognized as an alien is absolutely schizophrenic. it's complete madness, but that's not what she said, justice. mom in the state duma voted for this law of the federation
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boris borisovich, especially in the federation council. i just remember well. she and i were in the same party once i had the conscience of the legal forces there. well, as far as i remember, how would they kick her out, but we won’t have more. yes, god bless you and your essence. boris essence. here i have a friend with whom i studied, in the same class, an outstanding soviet, mathematician, russian, sergei shpilki in the seventy-ninth year. he and i won the all-russian oli mpiada in mathematics, for which sergey shpilkin was recognized as a foreign agent, i read, i didn’t invent it, it was the ministry of justice who wrote it. attention, sergei shpilkin received support from foreign sources. note any foreign influence to support i do not know, but this is the most interesting attempted to discredit the electoral system of the russian federation is cool. the man wrote about electoral fraud. you're
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a foreign agent, that's the reason. it's just that he didn't write about electoral fraud. he built a certain mathematical model, respectively, with which his mathematical model. the samples had different results, how the mathematical model is correct or incorrect to judge people, when i give you some counter-arguments, you start yelling no need to yell. i urge you to finish what you say, you speak sergeevich foreign. i 'm telling you what he really is, because he criticized the russian elections, what is behind each other? why are you still not recognized legs, although you have been criticizing the elections? it’s just that we always have you in general, you don’t know how to talk about the other. i can talk further procedure procedure - this is generally again left the answer. yes, it's not. this is important, if so far, not recognized by
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the agent for your criticism of the voting system is close, do not stand no foreign country. and sergei shpilkin the day before search, when his door was knocked out so, and i'm already my classmate. i helped that door, then put in his life, which is all bill she is sick, he went abroad. here's the problem. don't wait on january 1, the razbirkon center published the number of voters in russia every six months, according to the law , the center of the election commission publishes. yes, you know how many voters in russia, according to the data of the election commission centers, permanently reside abroad , say the number is one million 959 2 million, two million people. you never know yes, the fact that the stud went abroad because he had there were searches and they wanted to break the door. yes, and the fact that he criticized the election of foreigners, because do not make me remember jokes about shpilkin.
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i don’t know about yours about another, i’ll tell you later, but let ’s get back to the question, which means i already spoke some time ago, but it seems to me that the concept itself is here or there a term. yes, i don’t know how to say, foreign agent. it's just something. uh, a certain tool, a certain ability to somehow mark a person. uh-huh, which inflicts. the most serious ideological harm to our country, and the fact that elections practice struggle, please, stop for the last time in a good way at such and such a time , on the other hand, it continues to receive some material benefit here, but the legislation, well, it really has not been prescribed, so we have a question. why are there legs? yes, why is this agent although he does this one, he sits and says exactly the same thing. why then is he not a foreigner, how does this correlate with the concept of high treason, a traitor? uh-huh, that is
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, this is an opinion that is not clear. so let's now dmitry vladimirovich, too, for now a little so on legal heads. here you can see some flaw here. if you see, what is it for you today. i don't see much of a problem. i even read this law once again before the program. it is written quite clearly, simply all this legislation and especially the practice of its application. oddly enough, they are quite new to us. we are returning to what was already more than 30 years ago. during this time we have forgotten how these mechanisms work in general. we had friends everywhere. we had no enemies anywhere against us no one saw no subversive activities. it began to seem like some kind of spies there. but it turned out that all this exists here . for example, the criminal code does not have such concepts for sabotage and wrecking. remember he said there about something else that there is a word. but the concept is not, it’s the same here, that is , in principle, hmm laws the practice is written quite clearly, maybe it didn’t work, but she said differently, yes, the word is no, yes,
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yes, but ass. gangtah is written there. how can you exit this registry if there is no information about what you receive foreign funding and are under foreign influence. that is, this law is not otherwise foreign. this is who. that's how you understand the person who is, wait. i can say that this is a traitor or i can not, a traitor is from a philistine point of view. but this is still a criminal offense - this is a person committing treason, committing a state agent who left to water us. it's really shitty and it still manages to make money here. he is not a traitor, unfortunately, we do not boy is one thing. i’m just trying to explain, it’s one thing for an alien, and another thing for a person who traveled, watering us with this very substance. he most likely commits specific crimes. including discrediting, for example, the armed forces or high treason or something else. and we confuse the statuses on agent and why are we not criminal now, and now, do we need certain questions then, do we then
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need to add some kind of punishment to the agent clutch, already of a completely criminal nature. that there is someone talking about deprivation of citizenship. now i'm not saying the constitution prohibits, but there is such a proposal, someone says that it should be blocked automatically. here you are on the agent at once, all your accounts are blocked there and you can use them, only so that there is something not there, to pay utility bills conditionally. uh -huh, maybe something else is needed, is it necessary to do some specific punishments for this status with a prestigious horse. and this will be contrary to the very spirit of the law. both on agents, i emphasize once again to go on an agent. this is probably bad. i would not want to, but this is not a crime, and the criminal code spelled out the law is outdated, because when he appeared to mix the statuses of the agent and the persons who commit certain details. yes, completely different things. so, it seems to me, when the law appeared, there was, uh, a thought. what kind of show to the society of citizens people? yes, these people do not deserve our trust, because they
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carry out their activities with other people's money. with the money of our enemies, yes, and we somehow slipped forward, the situation has changed. and here we have this old definition. and now we begin with criminals in terms of the criminal code. andrei vladimirovich is absolutely right, because the nerves around us are rapidly changing, a special military operation is underway. naturally, the world gives us new challenges to which we must respond. because if we do not respond to them, we will not. yes, we are in such a piquant situation. i will call it that, therefore inogens, in fact. this is such a first basic level, where it brings people who have motives that we already have fucking funding that deals with certain things. i say, this is not true, yes, potentially, that is , these are potential traitors to whom we must pay attention and understand that these people they are already conducting some kind of anti-russian activity and are probably prone to big crimes. again, there are a lot of intersections, if we now take the inogen base, the most famous people, as a rule, have already worked there recently for high treason. i do not know on the creator of not terrorism, but its justification and so on, just in vain
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legal inconsistencies that personally. it's clear with people. and now look at us, there, uh, when the list is replenished, uh, some musicians. we will talk about this now, separately. no. well, you understand, this is precisely the wide plast, you understand that now the most famous most top notes, as a rule, they should already have the composition of high treason, well, for example, let’s take a specific example, i don’t know, even last spring. there, i don’t know, one of the representatives of this inogene sex was one of the first, in my opinion, was included in it. i don't i know is collecting. rather, it indulges the tools of the hut to collect the personal data of its participants, that is, thanks to its public social status , it incites people, we understand. yes , yes, moreover, for this, they are sitting not only in the information here, they are used, but this is the same, by the way, i want to be constantly at the same time. you answer my question. if, unfortunately, these agents
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are not you wait, who cannot be persuaded and what to do with them is always a punishment, it must be consistent socially dangerous, what do you think what kind of singer you are. stupidity he has a question andrey is now already a lawyer, please. explain, now the statuses on the agent, as far as i understand, as punishment does not imply then, then, what was your very emotional river now for. repression - this does not imply. you punishment does not involve eating? what is the right ear? boris borisovich there is a mess, please. yes answer andrigina. what's the question? which question is amazing
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listen carefully friend? vitalyevich wait. well, ivan means you again, because that loss of rights does not occur at all. they are free. they left the election friends to participate in every question that we ask me to be sure to answer. only you other people left the country. those who left cannot work at the dolgoprudnitskaya school for a commission, and so on. let's get angry without judgment. unfortunately, even if there is no criminal liability. for the fact that you are an inogen, there is the potential that you will become one . there is a group of kitty-kitties, the guys a year ago, one of them, or rather blurted out. something somewhere against they were banned from concerts in russia for a year. it seems to me that the group has already proved itself perfectly, taking into account the fact that part of this
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team still traveled to the donbass in 1919, but they have been sitting without money and without concerts for a year now. here is the question. what needs to be done to rehabilitate and stop being foreign high school students. at first. let 's sort it all out, probably, they have no income, but allah is also to blame for all contacts. if the uncle is abroad, this is a serious problem. this we know, maybe it's quiet quietly, please, please. everyone speak on queues, especially potential and legs of agents, because when you scream at each eyelid, it was exactly said, yes, i’m talking about the neighbor on the left in our viewer. we don’t hear anything, our colleagues in the control room don’t hear anything either. we can't do anything under these conditions. only you boris borisovich shout and all sorts of words are not good, as we know. yes, nikit vladimirovich let's do it again, then, is there a need. in some kind of
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really punishing an administrative criminal foreigner or what? it seems to me that we should then move away from this term. so see if these people are really committing some kind of crime. there, associated with state treason. here they are traitors somehow in this direction, because, well, it turns out confusion for example, confusion in my head. here you are, as it were, in any case , we will have to be punished, because you yourself said that when we already adopted this law, now these measures are not just asking for it, that is, we are a little late. why because you see what a reaction, yes, that is, the law of soft power is absolutely balanced, but already here that side is there, uh, he got the money from the agents. he discredited our elections there. we don't know why. but he's a completely hungry crime. that's for agencies as prescribed by law. i tell him we put a seal on him. here's the bad one. we are not good, he does not deserve our trust. we put a seal on it, but no one tells us about it. as
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the authorities continue to monitor him, the task of state security arises . they look after him, he became conditional. if he means something there, he starts to move. we do not know what he produces sometimes in the public field. it is sometimes beyond the other side and it is here. when we do this, now we are additionally expanding. we will also untie the hands of employees who work, but what additional extensions? well, what we said, let’s say, now it says something else about citizenship , that is, and the mechanism that we just jammed a person is no longer working, he still doesn’t stop, so the initial stage was soft was not tough on belonged to russia, that is, we entered and so on the mechanism. that is, if everything goes as you propose regarding citizenship and so on, if a person receives a status and legs, then he still does not receive a criminal article, which is considered by the su. by maintaining
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immediately and so on, and he is immediately punished by one of the methods that you offer including uh passport. let's give up. no. you know, what is the next one? well, that is, we set chelny. we put a label on a person. yes, that is, as we said, yes continues. why do we say that you can go to agencies. now the girl said they punished themselves for a year, they will apply for the menu and leave. oh, that's not all right. just not a single case is true. we had cases, therefore. and if if watching this person sees that he violates the criminal code of the poet and this article. why continue to work with this status, you can work with this criminal article. here is the incitement of ethnic hatred. there are fakes about the army. there are many more things and these articles. they go with it to work on these articles. well in
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another case. there is, when a person let's say he will move in the same status of an alien, and just, uh, he will go abroad, as many are there and just stigmatize us. you understand, as soon as he receives notice of the erest of his power of his property. we are closing the financial window for him. he is already beginning to think, that is, we are working out now to act legally. again, a question. again, a question. you say he receives a notice of the arrest of his property, as we are from the status and on the agent and what we see that he is something tells bad things about russia without a criminal case. already moving smoothly is ready. then for this it is not necessary to aggravate the inogene status. just according to the article, you can do it. this is what i'm talking about. here it is for me. this is for me. this is an incomprehensible colleague. you see, in short, i'm not opposed to these people being punished. i'm saying that they should be punished somehow according to the law. yes? let's move on to specific individuals transition to the elevator, if it
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i forbid my songs to be performed there , something like this, now here. let's see for example. last saturday, the list of musicians of foreign agents was replenished by the singer zemfira in the ministry of justice explained that the artist openly spoke in support of ukraine . in addition, zemfira's department explains, she gave concerts in unfriendly countries with calls against the special operation and received foreign funding. so far, on online platforms, like yandex.music and even on the radio, the songs of the same zemfira sound without any warning about her new status lawyers say that in order to put the singer's hit on the air, an audio clip should be played on the agent in front of him. at least 15 seconds warning. in theory, there should be an age limit, 18+ for dividing famous russian musicians by status, and the agent gave rise to another discussion about how to proceed
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with their songs. so the head of the internet security league, ekaterina mizulina, last tuesday proposed making the work of foreign agents a national property, that is, we are talking about removing copyrights to film music and books by people who spoke against our country in a difficult situation. and in. in general, thus they crossed out everything that was up to that moment, no one in russia forced them to do this. they made their own choice. well, i probably should have. the mother of the consequences with a similar proposal was previously made by the founders of the crimean radio project song at war, as oleg kryuchkov, the general producer of the television and radio company, crimea, told reporters, it is proposed to recognize the folk art of those who publicly renounced russia and condemned our country, they say. this will allow third parties to perform their songs, but this requires an appropriate law. olesya aleksandrovna will not work, that we will make these songs even more popular if there are no
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copyrights, you sing this, i am andrey vladimirovich and it turns out we are popularizing. this creativity is even more of a different problem, that even if we cancel their content, we have this cancellation culture that is so trendy back, or that we did not want to repeat. the problem is that corporate parties - this will stop, and we will continue to understand them to let their country in, they will return and earn money over time to work not and if a couple of times here the one who spends this vs uh will have to answer questions. why are you inviting? yeah, agents and artists answer they are the people that you have to answer questions on the basis of why he will be asked such a question, what the hell are you inviting this one to agent and the law means something if you only crossed out all that what good that they did, one had to think, because, apparently, there will be some kind of
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sanctions. no, not yet, from the series, for me , ino agents recognize. you stop shaking my hand. yes, i won’t sit next to you on the constitutional field, one big one. why cultural figures climbed into the political plane and turned out to be very smelly in this sense, you know, few clubs have ever happened. here is from them. here from them there is a lot of all this, well, your suggestions got there and magazines came. hundreds of public organizations that offer to make their work, public, property, they really are many listeners some musical in the car. what is simple? here at least switching switch, better imagine. so there is a playlist. i used to work on the radio. so approximately. i don't know how well known there is with the news with advertisements coming out at 1:00. here there are 11 to 13 songs
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depending on their length. so, here, now we will have to do something extra. it was called before. i don’t know how the jingles are now 15 seconds at least 15 seconds, which should sound before zemfira’s song, this is somehow a sentence little about that. every time their great song is played or a movie is shown, they receive royalties, that is, they continue to earn money on our side. and you propose to stop this practice. why these funds? maybe they will continue to earn money, but they will go to some special account. there, we will send this money to a special military operation, and then they will be criticized. it will go to the address of our country, the real support for our military is the same with taxation on april 30th. they owe pay income tax in russia but the rates as non-residents in our country are 30%. it may also be that our governments send this money to svu. why not? criticize, but
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pay real income. we are trying to translate this into an economic plane, so that it would simply be financially unprofitable for them. and , unfortunately, so far this is all packaged into an ideological plane. why because i 'm already 13 of the same enemies of yours that you threw out strange instead of having a huge target audience on which you just turn a blind eye to these toys, remembered three years ago. we were so indignant at the behavior of the leadership of the neighboring country, who, for having traveled to crimea, forbade our artists to perform, which forbade entry. and now we also do it only once. now we have changed ours and we are doing the right thing, because we need a victory and these people are now on the information
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front. if you call a spade a spade, you know, i call cowards, they don’t call the studio the spirit of maxim anatolyevich yusin, who will say you can’t imitate. here let us win, let's, we will finish and fulfill all our goals of the task, and then we will play this good old liberal game with maxim yusin, which of us is better, but for now let's make sure that everything ends quickly in our favor, so that less our people died, and so that our children would be less fooled here at home, because when we talk about the fact that some kind of artist has left somewhere, it is with him. most importantly, these are two things. this is the first. these are his financial flows, his real estate, his property that can be confiscated for everything else. i don't care, i think that such an economic one, how would their retraining give a result, and they will stop this idea of theirs. you know, it's definitely going to get them on their ass, because even now you can see a lot of these artists that are potentially on
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the agents are still recognized or are already recognized. they really have targeted plans to return to russia with tours with concerts and so on. that is, they are arrogant people and a son in the eye, you know what's there, yes god's dew climb, so they absolutely do not care about all these conventions. the main thing for them is to come to arrange something for 5-10 concerts , return to somewhere in new york and continue to put a bolt on our channel. they are such cunning people who will return to russia, build 5-10% , earn money and take it, but then it turns out that they are already agents. yes, and on the posters that these concerts will advertise in large letters will be written such and such, yes. and here the attention of the question of people will not stop. this is an inscription about foreignness. well, then it turns out that somehow we therefore status on agent first, he must be at the carts. e more become heavy, because again i say. i don't know about the old pirate. i see it, i still have some connections and access, and so on. i see
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that now they are objectively not afraid of the agent's status, on the contrary, they brag about it, and so on. you know what the problem is. that's for me personally. i see, perhaps it is a little sectoral, but nevertheless. this is some kind of oddity, we still have the kiev ukrainian regime and it is recognized as a terrorist organization, so when these people easily come to kiev i don't know interact with budanov. the devil knows what with whom from zelensky's office well, it's just people , you know, that is, they can't be for justifying terrorism. yes, to attract and so on, so i have a question for everyone, let everyone hear me. why zelensky is not a terrorist in the legal status is not recognized, that he is recognized as a terrorist organization, therefore all these questions. you hand over, which we asked a thousand times and so far the answer is no, so it means that it is somehow expedient, while you can leave many problematic activities. yes, but the artists on agent well are quite popular zemfira, let's be honest, a very popular singer. she will collect she will collect uh-huh collect.
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here, her concert activity in her current status is allowed, despite her agency status. she can arrange. if he finds a venue for a concert, well, as it were, and people will come today. i do not see any obstacles from the point of view of our very liberal legislation, although in theory, in theory. that's just based on world experience. i, firstly, i did not name these terrible people who were now shown as cultural figures, and secondly, there should be self-censorship in society. and we, by the way, had such examples not so long ago. i would like to recall the experience of 1993, when my friend yegor letov supported the parliament, no television, no radio nowhere, only due to his popularity. if he could exist, or eduard limonov, alexander andreevich prokhanov, that is, if you wish, you can cut off their oxygen, just now there are many radio stations, i noticed this, they rotate them and broadcast a little, as if in protest. but we will give grebenshchikov but we will give zemfira and if we don't have them, in general, in our space, our children will only
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benefit. we don't need them at all. we found ourselves in a certain logical trap. you just told us about your friends, this eduard limonov, alexander prokhlava, who had their oxygen cut off because they supported parliament in 1993. it seems to me that you give this example in no way positive to you. i don't like it, obviously. then why is this the way you propose now to act on these, because sometimes they were on the side of good, and these people are now on the side. they are now exactly on the side of uh, the persons who are trying to destroy our country looks like. forgive as revenge now. well, no, sorry. rewarding ourselves from the culture of today is already in law to date to date. they can tour with us, they can earn. in general, they can do almost everything only marking themselves and for one activity in the children's audience is prohibited. yes, the radio is playing. you don't know, you are listening to a sixteen or
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nineteen year old person, it turns out we are on all the songs of the radio station. there now, once an hour goes by, again such an announcement, where the age of the audience is told, does not protect, unfortunately, we have such laws. here they are. they are really soft , you can get around as you like. yes, you know from the phone you found out something about the laws there. what is the name of the person who is known as noice, mc his name is ivan alexey, so he is dudyuk in an interview. look, he told in detail how he really banned. well, it was a long time ago. in the tour they were forbidden to perform in russia. so they come to some city, i don’t remember the big city there, yekaterinburg or what? well, i don’t remember big samara or it’s a catch, it doesn’t matter, it’s big, the city is huge, and within a few days they change five or six sites, where at first they say, yes, ok , he comes, and there these same guys are already there. there are more during the day. yes, look, it's
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really interesting. no, i'm just a little bit, as if i also feel about it now. i just i think how it is possible during the day six sites fall short of the masters. andrey, i can only say that on april 15 i will be myself. and what i want to say, dear comrades, there are tens of millions of people in the country tens of millions of people who a love to listen to all these artists and b who do not support c services, well, they don’t support yes , the same people, who are significantly people who no forbidden catherine no security league the security league of the country was able to shut its mouth. vysotsky could not go to the advertisement and
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if you remember, yes, i offered to talk separately. boris borisovich shouted that it was impossible. uh, so, well, wash off this stigma on the agent as well. that is, if you are on the list, then you cannot get out of there. i then said that it was not true. this is indeed not true. there are very few such cases, but they do exist, and another thing is how much technology is coming out. from this list now we were arguing about how people get there, but is it possible to get out of there? there? it seems to me that the question is also more than enough. give us material, please, the term foreign agent appeared in our legislation back in 2012. after 5 years, a law was passed introducing the concept of the media and the agent, and in 2020 they fell under the law and ordinary citizens managed to lose this status a little last spring , a political scientist was excluded from the list for the first time. arkady lyubarev, and human rights activist lyudmila kuzmina
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a little later, four more people were removed from there. reasons for exclusion. they do not explain 2 years ago the russian president was forced into tai. dmitry peskov said that the procedure exit from the status of an agent takes 1 year. when the ministry of justice explained that to get rid of the stigma of foreigners. there are two ways, through the court or through roskomnadzor, proving that the law is no longer violated last year in its explanation given in the federation council . the case is a combination of two factors - foreign influence on a person through material or other assistance and engaging in those types of activities that are listed in the law, including the vision of political activity directed against the russian federation if one of the two factors is recognized by the agent disappears, that person may be removed from the list. but in december last year, the law was hardened; now, in order to obtain the status of a foreign agent, it is not necessary to have foreign
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funding; it is enough to fall under foreign influence, that is, receive support or be under the influence. including a quote by coercion persuasion or other means now in the list of foreign agents about 500 citizens and organizations in the last two months only 56.0 appeared on the list, how to get rid of the status of a foreign agent now it’s not entirely clear, but for sure more complicated recently, the moscow city court rejected the complaint of the former editor-in-chief of the ekho moskvy radio station and agent aleksey vinnikov to be included in the list where he got last year. well, this is what we were talking about, that is, it seems to me that this is some kind of lag, yes, do you agree with the reality of the legislative process or not? i agree that there are certain collisions that need to be worked on , and i think that colleagues in the state duma , uh, will certainly do this, because the actual topic today is that they showed
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the conduct of dictations, but many sometimes do not even understand. why, for example, the status does not remove. why? well, look, the person posted the video, uh, on the internet, so he, uh, he left it. he is, in fact, even. maybe there's something wrong with the rules. better always goes, and he constantly. eh, as if agitating attracts people, therefore, when people are even surprised, he speaks. what did i do? listen, but he scored, for example, 1,000 views in a day, which means that he gitted 3,000 people, you must understand this, therefore some people will naturally have further questions to ask and please note that today there is no queue at the ministry of justice. that is most of the people who are on this list. they just from this , moreover, to pluses and therefore, they can, yes, in order for you to be excluded from this list , you need not only what anri arkadyevich klimov said, right? uh, the disappearance of these causes themselves, but actually some work of this person himself, of course, in correcting what he has already put on. yes, let's take a simple banal situation, one organization
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receives, let's say, money, and that's it. they send this money. there is such a thing, indeed the case. and after that, a year later, they serve. well, that's it, no money came, there is nothing behind them. they are crystal clear to you, no question, but if we see that a person comes and says, yes, yes, i changed my mind , this will not be enough, because this person must prove to us and this is just a certain measure that allows us to see how much a person is it real he cut off his interaction connections, does he get any other contacts and, like now, uh, colleagues there said about the singer. you look at how much she stands behind this and plays constantly. here's how much it costs. here we are looking. how much is behind it, that is, whether or not it should write some song to the verses of renata litvinova glorifying the armed forces. and then we say, well, okay, there are a lot of questions on posiphire, yes, and there, against everything else
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, the same will have to be done, and in any case the musicians of martinique, who agreed to understand anyone, uh, we, uh, are not talking now about how we already had the sad experience of the country that we tried to cut out there, and we lost engineers not about that. we are now saying that this is precisely why we adopted such a mild law, so that people change their minds, but they do not come to their senses, unfortunately, they do not come to their senses, so we begin to hit on other tails. we hit finance. after all, the most important thing for them now is just the wow effect. in fact, we have a plus for them. here we talked with colleagues. from this , the enogen rejoices from this status. they will be such letters to themselves. that is, if, as ivan said, it will be written there. that's what they want. and you have to do, yes, benefit from it. well, how can you not understand? and for them, any propaganda propaganda they want any artist wants to be always popular
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, you know, he is not popular when he gets it. uh, uh limited finances. here, then everything remains immediately interesting for him, believe me. that means financially thank you for working with an audience. well, you say that each of them has its own listeners, why doesn’t it work with them? the same part of minimizing ourselves, you understand that we work for the benefit of the west when 30%, so you say that we do not have forbidden engineers, yes, and in the profession, but we have left a huge number. unfortunately , it is precisely the it-class, yes, and there are not enough kryaklov and now the market is coming to us with not enough personnel. these people, they came, so i give privileges , please, here's what i always don't like. this is when there is a stuffing, which one, and there is an opinion and that's it. what is being done you said, work with the audience of the proposal. what to do or she is an agritsa completely and will continue to be angry, because their loved ones, and the leaders of idols, artists, they are called
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in the current situation, when a special military operation is underway, the actions and provocations carried out by foreign agents lead to the real death of our guys, so such a betrayal of such actions, of course, cannot be justified, nor can it be forgiven. in the case of sincere active sincere repentance. much can be understood and forgiven. boris borisovich by the way , boris borisovich is sure that this whole special military operation will end as this is another question. and in the history of russian soviet culture, accuracy and alla pugacheva and andrei makarevich and boris borisovich grebenshchikov, the last double agent is taste. razin no no no makarevich
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the last two agents. here, yes , consistency for them is a question that we ask us, because, well, we wanted to preserve humanity, a good soul, no matter how no one called names. there country bloody morder and so on are very kind. you are much kinder than the same west, you will forgive, but they will remain in their souls, up to a certain moment yes a certain moment by the allies. for hours whom we call foreign today, we have no doubt, vital andrey is not a professional reproach ivan sergeevich can i do this? and this can show, in general, what kind of allies he does not have, i’m all, but i didn’t hear something said. i'm talking about vitaly andreevich i i
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gave it to him. and, therefore, once again i will try to explain, e, what confuses me in this story. but it seems to me that it is really necessary to bring the existing legislation into line with the moment, because we really late. so we once came up with a law about inogens and then something changed it there, and in the end we forgot about what was invented, initially and now we don’t really understand how to do it. eh, how this tool should be used so about such forgetfulness. again, it turns out to be an anecdote for boris borisovich, but a story from one young lady. hmm. here she says. i have a lady in this one who has developed very good, one might say, friendly relations with her mother-in-law, we spend a lot of time there all the time we go to the store. we can go to the theater there. and together we went to the country, and in a traffic jam , strange men from a neighboring car began to show obvious interest in me. well, i mean, i sent him away. and if the short planet
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