calling sudden countries for breaking with russia we must end this vicious cycle and why china's peace plan alarmed nato we will stand firm. stand on the ideologue about it today in our program. hello, is this the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear? i'm andrey norkin. my colleague is ivan troshkin. we are working live and, uh , we have to start again not the way we planned, because about an hour and a half ago, reports started pouring in that something was happening in kiev, that the city cordoned off the city is completely blocked. in general, then some kind of movement, some kind of movement, on the contrary, there is movement, which is not moving, that is, nothing moved. everything froze in anticipation of something or someone , versions of someone who supposedly was kristalina began to appear. georgieva - this

is the director of the international monetary fund, flew to kiev for about 10 minutes, this version lasted somewhere, then everyone somehow began to doubt that they were loved in vf in kiev, especially their gifts, but not so much. and suddenly it turns out somewhere. here already, probably, without 20:00 moscow time. and what is under the guise of crystallin? a self-propelled grandfather is hiding, who somehow got to ukraine there, of course. in general, the sensation was the first to report this to julian rybka, this is such an uncle who works in the bild. in general, us. uh, frankly, he doesn’t like it, he’s like that. in general, brusophobic, uncle, uncle. well, sometimes he had some kind of enlightenment. he sometimes even made reports about war crimes. in general , from somewhere rare found out that it was biden and almost immediately after that they appeared first frames. and now let's get together. let's see, it means that negotiations were held at the biden with zelensky in the mikhailovsky cathedral. and actually, at the exit from the mikhailovsky cathedral, it was already

filmed. i don’t know this festive cortege, and then there were photos where a delegation left biden next to zelensky. i don't know now, you probably don't hear the most busy thing under the sounds of air raids, that no one was afraid of this air raid. everyone understood that in this way the ukrainian authorities meet all their foreign guests at this time no shelling actually. and it doesn't happen later. you already see, the official photos, with biden , were posted by the kiev administration. and the white house confirmed the fact that the us president is in kiev, the press is sure that biden arrived with gifts, he will announce the transfer of f-16 aircraft and long-range missiles to ukraine. attack m s. in the meantime , biden himself said that ukraine would receive a new $ 500 million military aid package zelensky claims that he discussed with the bytan questions about the supply of long-range weapons. well, and what else is known , they participated together there in the ceremony for the day of memory of the heroes of the heavenly hundred, and when they

laid flowers there. here the press notes that at this moment, uh, the air raid alarm was canceled. well, here is aleksandrovich. what do you think? what was the real purpose of the trip? because of course you have to give credit to the leak . there was no way no one knew biden was coming. well, he arrived, and why a full-fledged script, and they remember who came to the bomb shelter for an hour and a half, when some kind of european would be nice, not only, uh, siren. who cares? generally? thank you very much, that, of course, it would be a serious picture. no, that state mayer once wrote a formula, anyway, no one is the limit. michelle's step is generally

an amazing character for me, but this one is a little more serious. well, of course, why did he come? what do you think, in general? please note that he flies to poland and will perform there, but why, well, and page i, it seems to me that e tools are slowly being exhausted, but opportunities are used daily, pressure on the outside world , pressure on uncooperative third parties who still won’t join in and throughout the forest will never join the west in putting pressure on russia is some kind of attempt to send a signal. look, first of all, how well controlled ukraine controls its capital, how well. we support that, despite all the dangers of complexity, such a fearless president of the united states of america went to the meeting. third. this is most likely. the run-up to tomorrow really a serious event that awaits not only the russian federation, not only russia

, the citizens of russia, the whole world, this is the message of president putin, the federal assembly. here, first of all, a little distraction to shift the emphasis not to give tomorrow, how to turn the discussion around. uh , president putin's speech there's a little bit of everything here, probably hardly. we'll know for sure what is number one, but the main thing is that it demonstrates. uh, what uh the situation is weakening in the pressure on the roof. i've been reading. here's hot on the heels of some attempt to give away that it is, on the contrary, a signal for escalation that the west is not going to retreat intentionally and whether the cause of the free world in quotation marks is coming to kiev to show that they will hold on to the last vector, of course. well, it's not about opinions or i'm about what kind of thought h-how trying to broadcast, uh, the bidens and the byte administration, the west in general with this visit. they show that a year after the start of a special military operation , it is the united states and the west, uh, that controls

most of ukraine, and not russia, they are trying to way. to show that russia has not achieved its goals and moreover, that they intend to do everything necessary for their point no , so that in the future russia will not be able to achieve its goals, moreover, they indicate that he is still biden something then really could bring some wait, george now. well, there, i don't know about planes. here is some real information. he brought. in a sense , he shows himself that he can literally be in the donbass for years , you know, so everything is everything, yes, well, in his the time to which you are hinting, as regards, and the fact that to put some kind of long-range weapon there. all this could be discussed during previous visits. uh, the presidential meetings came quite recently to washington. they discussed all this, so this meeting with absolutely this is pr. first, it's a russian stop signal. then. come on, here's what

we'll do. firstly, i should note that you have now voiced the western version that putin has not been in 9 years putin, as we know, visited this war zone, but was presented with then i don’t know the sides that it was all filmed there somewhere, well, dude, i don’t know where they said the same tasks. well, uh, when we have certain concerns about the uh security of the president of the country. i'm inclined to share the last one and maintain those security measures that entrepreneurs. wait, i'm offering. that's what let's. we will now move on to the topic that we really wanted to start with, we wanted to talk about the munich security conference. and this is about the same thing that happened that week just passed, it seems to me that biden's visit is just the final card of this one. uh, this event is a bit time-delayed, but i'll explain now. why does it mean, firstly, we were not invited to this conference, in my opinion,

for the first time at all, that is, not a single representative of ours was present. secondly, there was a very high level of frankness in the speech. to put it very briefly, they all demand two things: the demilitarization of russia and the de-imperialization of russia to a greater or lesser extent, in short, all of them acted there the estonian aunt, who said that in general, the russian people are to blame for everything, their imperial thinking, in general, we need to stop. this whole i will enter with the russian people must be ended. that is, i want to say that they all spoke out there, whoever could, and then biden comes to kiev to put such a kind of fat imperial seal, of course i agree. he and alexandra than this is no signal that they are weakening and trying to somehow support the fading light no, they believe that they, uh hmm, have all the strength and opportunities for us to threaten at least threaten. let's see the plot.

you, in principle, when you talk about bidens now. naturally, you can also put a couple of words there, because they are separate, these two events. doesn't need to be considered. let's give you the tone of the event was set by president raris zelensky , who was the first to speak via video link from kiev, he compared the confrontation with russia with the biblical battle of david and goliath, urging the west to urgently help ukraine with weapons for the call british prime minister arishison responded with lightning speed, promising the first and allies to deliver long-range guns to kiev. sutok advised the partners not to worry about the depletion of their own military arsenals. after all, according to him, all western weapons were already intended to fight against russia. why do we need stockpiles of weapons to protect what they serve, what they are against, if they serve to destroy a russian tank, then isn’t this why they should have been used by the axios publication drew attention to the

the munich conference was heard and the first official accusation of russia of crimes against humanity by the united states, vice-president kamela harris did not assert himself as evidence, but simply as once upon a time, powell's bicycle with her test tube invited the public to take a word imagine a pregnant woman killed during the shelling of a maternity hospital in mariupol imagine pictures of the best bodies of civilians shot in cold blood left right on the street in the event of russian action, we examined the evidence. we we know the legal standards. there is no doubt that these are crimes against humanity. the europeans uncovered openly admitting that europe is fighting in ukraine as a party to the conflict, nato head jens, stoltenberg said that the risk of escalation for the alliance is incomparable with the danger of russia's victory , the old fascist jose bars went even further the european union is the army of ukraine because this conflict is an existential threat to european

security . ukraine belongs to the family of the european union and will be a member of the eu after everything that has happened, the issue is resolved ukraine in europe it just has to be institutional at some point, the conference finally turned into a theater, the absurdity of sweden, finland , the organizers presented an award for outstanding contribution to peace and security for the refusal of these countries from neutrality and the decision to join, and the head of the german berbuck once again demonstrated his deepest intellectual knowledge. if ukraine has a chance for security, if putin stays in power, if he does not turn around 360 degrees, then no, president putin can do it. can make a decision and change its course by 360 ° and already tomorrow the whole world will be happy again, but you arrived at the conference you got so excited that the estonian prime ministers betrayed their most secret dreams,

kallas said that the problems with russia are due to the imperial mentality of the russians and with this it is time to end the german people learned about the crimes. and it changed his mentality such things were not in russia and not define themselves in the categories of the empire of imperial thinking. they like dictators. how to get out of this cycle of history our history textbooks were rewritten after independence. but this did not happen in russia. they are still learning from soviet textbooks responsibility in relation to aggression, it is necessary that in russian society there is such an understanding of russia's imperial ambitions . i am talking not only about putin . we must end this vicious cycle. so, that is, if earlier there was such an assumption that it was possible to deal with russia but without putin and without, as it were, some kind of leading hmm, such an elite as they would

they said yes, but now it’s generally better that russia doesn’t exist. georg valevich, is it really some kind of new qualitative situation that has developed or not? no, the new situation is developing qualitatively, but if not quite in the direction in which they speak, then, indeed, and all sorts of european fascists gynecologists and botulinums. now fully revealed in terms of anti-russian statements. nobody is holding themselves back. why is this happening? as often happens this happens when there is a lack of real action, that is, in in principle, many spoke with toutenberg about this saying that the russian federation chose her tactics of military attrition. she, uh, rather winning, the west should as a result, the west ended up in a very unpleasant fork for him, or he sharply increases the quality of support for ukraine here and now, or he gradually begins to merge kiev, how is it spelled? walt in his article, because ukraine, contrary to what they say, does not carry

from the distance. and you can’t say. doesn’t want to make any anal meaning for the west now, at least it tries to to avoid, so they try with loud words, and with big promises to close, and the lack of implementation, it turns out to be a greater degree. just like alexander ivanovich. what are such self-convictions? yes, here they are trying to spark this difference. again , i'm not western colleagues. they say and say correctly that one of the last chances for the west to turn the tide is to achieve a shock offensive for ukraine in the spring and summer of 2023, and for this you need to convince kiev that the west will help so that ukraine continues to threaten people into a meat grinder, but for some reason i'm glad for example, these loud words, this loud statement, and this tough statement. this means that most likely what we will hear from the president in the period from the 21st to the twenty-fourth will also be quite loud.

so interesting, you uh there at all. a completely different understanding of what was said at the münkel conference. there is an understanding of such alexei sergeevich, do you agree or not? this is again analytics, what is it? western everything for the front. all for victory is that they rejected the opportunity to agree on anything with russia with or without putin putin and they are ready, well, finally go on the warpath without allowing any of ours , not that there is no one. yes, none of ours. uh, here, uh, leadership. well, unfortunately quite. it seems to me close to reality from the point of view. because you understand, here comes three drawing and says, we will put long-range shells. you will win a lot. we will deliver fighters. like it or not. be patient, my beauty, the director tells us. yes, that is, for a year there were no, in fact, no attempts were made, but attempts were made to somehow block the supply of this western aid threats to somehow punish the west, if we look at the statistics, moreover , our normal non-turbo patriotic statistics and not

some frank liberal there. otherwise, we will see that these are the arms deliveries that were carried out. well, there, let's say, there are about one and a half thousand of something units associated with systemic air defense, there are about 400 tanks. there, something like that was destroyed by us, so to say that i myself like to talk about it, that we are not doing anything there. no we do everything so that everything is destroyed, so it’s impossible to say directly, it’s still new deliveries, very, very listen. well, for example, yes, it is known that the us has adopted plans and factories are already being built. uh, the plan to increase the output of artillery shells is five times, in a year it will be twice as you understand, we have been saying from the very beginning. and for some reason , we didn’t say, you know, we have claims specifically against ukraine, which got territories after the collapse of the soviet union somehow. it’s not fair. no, we are challenging an unjust world order. here is this world order for the war seems to have appeared.

and this is what we wanted - it is in our national interests to challenge those countries that, in general, have the opportunity gevorg valite if they threatened us at some point, we realized that we should pull. in general, it makes no sense to continue, but we are trying to somehow answer to give in the teeth. well, because if they didn't, they would have intensified even more. and it would be even more powerful to speak not blocked. tell me, here are some qualitative changes. you see, here after the munich conference visit biden, of course, the qualitative change lies in the fact that the west is increasingly drawn into open confrontation with russia, and we do not see any hand being extended to the west. although there is one such hand. look what do you think, and if it had been reported through diplomatic channels that the russian country could not guarantee his safety, you know, the rockets would not have come. he wouldn't know, that's understandable. i think it didn't come out as

nikolaevich want. so sitting with such a sad face. i already understand why with this you are sitting with your face, you have always called us for negotiations long before the start of a special military operation, to sit down to agree to create some kind of conference, a negotiating platform where questions can be deprived. well, it is the munich conference, where it seems like everyone is discussing everything informally. by the way, you are with someone, by the way, who tells us that we are harissa criminals, you can’t speak reptiloid with her. it is installed saw the picture. and she has some here, these here , yes. well there, nevertheless, with whom of these honorable citizens nikolaevich you propose to lead. ah, dialogue. well, firstly, as it is not difficult to see from the same conference, not only me, but the whole of china offers this. well, okay, not a very meaningful honor to communicate, the chinese. we will dedicate a whole block to you, but

we will not dedicate a whole block. there was no more time for you. sorry, but not about that now. uh. you know what i want to say in general, conversation is very lacking in ordinary human conversation. look, the premier says so. well, she did, to put it mildly, not very a correct speech, to put it mildly, but at the same time, if over the past twenty years we had been talking with estonia, but most importantly, the situation is different and even said that we should talk with putin. no, well, well, why say that is not true? wait well, you don't even know what doesn't match, really. we don’t talk, for example, then maybe we would know that this is her personal family tragedy, because her mother and grandmother were deported to siberia and that she is like a politician of my age. i don’t think that it happened so often in

russia i talked a lot. and we, by the way, for many years scored on such international communication with my grandmother got angry specifically, and she returned only after 10 years. e, from. well, like, i can also tell you, heavy is just heavy, therefore. prolicity about personal tragedy, wait, i can’t. it's just that you have putin, too, a personal tragedy connected with the war. as you know, but this does not, as we cannot even imagine, that vladimir putin based on these. as you say personal tragedies, they said that the german people there must be how to bury change and so on, so this story is about personal tragedies. let's and at all we will not be from this as if. and we must understand the reasons for this or that, that is, we were never invited to this one a little faster. yes, we were not invited to this

negotiation platform interrupted. well , because you do not answer questions, you were not invited to this site, because we have been behaving for quite a long time up to this point. so that the other side is not sees the point in talking to us right. i understand you no no never why weren't we invited? because now i have a lot. they waited, and this is really so i do not resist. really so all parties are now pumping up their public perfectly to pump up their biceps. and in general, everything is only possible, and uh, biden's visit. this, of course, a symbolic event will be announced, judging by the messages that they have, they are very large posts, but the same thing will be announced at the conference there were many really high-sounding words, the results, most likely, will not be very big, but the intensity is rising. i understood everything, it is inevitable to get more points through negotiations, which is

happening. and now, another addition , the intensity is rising, but there will be no big results in some, never igorievich said. but anton varich agree. you are with such my ah-ah. i don’t know how to say the conclusion, or something, well, biden is the most important. yes, well, here they are in their sandbox. most importantly, well, formal i'm totally formal. here is kyiv all sorts of johnsons went there, some kind of, uh, brussels people. and here the whole president of the united states himself arrived. that is, in principle, even the coolest main and significant partner of ukraine can no longer come to kiev, all the most important, the main thing has already arrived. here, does not this mean that, as it were , the last such symbolic trump has already been thrown out. in this case, no one thinks about it. and i think, see what you think, you are a smart strategist, and they are tacticians, they solve tactical problems. and it's all subordinated. in fact, just in my

opinion, the logic of piloykin's propaganda. by the way, remember last time i said that i do not think that he will go. i think that my real reasons we will learn from some later memoirs. i think that recently they persuaded him, he was not going to go there, and not because it was a reason or practically it is a reason for him from the point of view of the internal political situation. and in america, well, that is, this is well, for him it is to show that he is such a good one. cause. i don't know, the main thing is not the main thing. here let's do all these backing events at the press conference, now it's press on ukraine and then it's not the final story, and then there's his statement in poland, joining in poland and then there's some other resolution ensemble agent. it’s there, the ruler , a pre-planning event dedicated to specific events, which means, and as for the munich conference, it just sounded that now they have come to the war and declared themselves. no, they did not go to war now. they

haven't changed anything in terms of the facts of the action. did they not six months ago supplied weapons, supplied wounds, they supplied. it’s just that they delivered suddenly, but they delivered soviet russian tanks , which are of high quality, don’t interrupt these tanks, which at first they used clearly just explained this, but at first they used what they had, respectively, in arsenals. now it's all over, and they need to continue to help, so they strengthen their hearts and will give away their new expensive tanks in borderline quantities and completely different in type, which is also, as it were, very difficult for use. you interrupted me. i'm not talking about it. that is, now it is precisely, but propaganda ideological pumping. why is it happening? are they confident in their abilities? i'm not sure about that, actually. here they are demonstrating correctly the task of these events - this is a demonstration to show this to convince ukraine and yes,

respectively, for them. it is generally negotiations of all these events and the world and us , including that we are losing, they are gathered by the whole world. everything, that's collectively and biden, is not afraid of anything. we are on it you don't need to just plain and most recent you gave an example, but comments soltinger soltinger. i think this is the most important comment of all. the most important thing is honesty. this is the conference. i think just quoting, but the biggest risk is putin's victory why if putin wins in ukraine it will be a message to him from their authoritarian leaders that they can use force, that they can get, which is uh the essence of what they want to do the world is more dangerous. this is the main reason why they rested from the lessons and why any design any option where russia in the eyes of the other world does not lose, and therefore, uh, preferably humiliating for them, is not acceptable, as long as this conflict is a national threat. for them , this is just such a threat, but we like to draw about the civilizational conflict directly

ideological differences. no, this is tough competition, if now they give us the opportunity to agree that we are there partial victory complete victory any victory then they say it directly. i was talking about this a year ago, arguing, he says to me, yes, what you have a civilizational conflict there in russia they want a queen, uh, destroy it. no, this is the same economic competition. and this is the kind of competition they can't let us have so they'll be it's all down to the last. now they feel that ukraine and, in general, the whole world is at a bifurcation point, which now decides a lot. and they don’t even need what provides an offensive there. although they will try to do. they need to ensure the survival of the ukrainian state, that the front did not break through, because that's all, maybe like dominos lie down. so okay? let's stop. come on, let's take a break and talk some more. yes

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i remembered that the representative of china came to the munich conference. let's talk about this in more detail now, it was not just a representative of china, it was one and the surname name wang and the former minister of foreign affairs of china, now he heads the commission office commissions like the ccp foreign affairs, so you understand the chinese hierarchy. this is a diplomat above the minister of foreign affairs, that is, the most senior he came to announce, among other things, that beijing has its own proposals for resolving the conflict around ukraine, which specific details he did not share, but said that they would make public. according to wang and the beijing peace plan will emphasize the need to respect the principles of sovereignty, territorial integrity and the un charter, but at the same time the chinese representative stated the need to respect the legitimate security interests of russia already, on the second day of the crisis on february 25, xi jinping invited the leaders of russia and ukraine to sit down at

the negotiating table to work out a peaceful solution . we know why some powers probably don't want peace talks between kiev and moscow to succeed. how many ukrainians died, how europe will suffer their strategic goals bigger than just ukraine 's proposals, in and already managed to discuss with representatives of italy and france on the sidelines of the conference, a chinese diplomat met with chancellor schulz of the federal republic of germany, bild published their joint photo, where van-i practically took scholz into a tight grip german body language experts , considered this an attempt by a chinese diplomat to demonstrate control over berlin and according to the xinhua news agency, a chinese representative warned germany that disrupting the peace process is fraught with a repeat of sabotage,

how at nord stream we understand germany's concern over the crisis in ukraine the longer the crisis drags on, the more damage will be caused to europe , an incident similar to the explosion on nord stream may suddenly repeat china's diplomatic efforts in the united states did not appreciate secretary of state blinkin in an interview with nbc. news complained that china is providing support to russia at the level of rhetoric and policy and provides non-lethal military assistance. according to him, beijing is also considering the possibility of supplying weapons. the day, as part of a personal meeting, blinkin allegedly warned you about the possible consequences of such a decision. beijing has responded. we will never accept us instructions and even threats to put pressure on russian-chinese relations

. in the context of not the best us relations, nothing pleasant there in the nearest place. they don't seem to be waiting. well , now, he shows himself, or is it in our side is also somewhere becoming a strong country, china is that all the steps that made china makes its side. china is certainly in opposition to the united states of america and it is great that we are now on this island and, uh, it is necessary to understand that if these interests ever diverge, then china will support russia too. maybe, as if once i understand you now, that in the future it can still be, 3. our grandchildren can play it five times, so that the president of russia and the president of america are best friends. maybe maybe, i don’t know what china is doing now, this half-step-half-step movement. it is in our direction he takes he takes the position of his russian interests. it is very important that china will now have a peace plan, yes, which even vladimir zelensky will propose his unrealistic, yes, mocking peace plan , and we have this clear plan.

no, we heard that dmitry peskov said that we had a task. that's to kiev territorial acquisitions. i really hope that tomorrow for a message to the federal assembly. our president will reveal this plan of ours, because they are already discussing theirs. but no, you wanted to, wait, wait, you are chinese intelligence. this is some kind of wait , what is such and such a chinese plan, does it exist or not? i agree that the chinese are doing everything with benefit, trying to do it, using it for themselves first of all. here. he just didn't say anything. i really liked the way he pretended not to notice the scholz. if this picture, you remember, was walking behind one, it turns. oh, like, cool dude. here the chinese there is some direct vision of his own. well, at least prescribed, there are several points on how everything should be resolved. in general, he did not say anything, if you look at all their speeches from the very beginning of the armed conflict. they

always say it is necessary to take into account the concerns of both sides, so now i say they have no such plan. and what will be written will be hypothetical, to show that china's wonderful world diplomats will not help. they said many times the talks of the russian federation stopped there is lana voiced by the president of the country, the most blurred denozification demitrisation. and then as let's see this is the perfect plan. now it is not necessary to voice the president. do you want to speak? as you imagine, he will come out and tell us we need it. we need to dress all the left bank nikolaevich territorial corridor in pridnestrovie why does he need to say what our people are dying for ? our people are dying. there is no need to voice it either . the strange story the president himself said a couple of months ago was that at the current stage, the key liberation

of donbass is understandable. donbass russian territory and understandable. for what wait, we will really have a speech by the president , obviously there will be some events or there will be no events , there will be just some comments related to the anniversary of the hour of special operations, not about us now, about china, but. if the chinese, a all all agree that there is a confrontation between the chinese and the americans, right? everyone agrees that the west has consolidated in general, perhaps even thanks to our special operation. it happened faster than we expected. i'm interested in this chinese role. they send munich their most important diplomat. he acts tough enough for the chinese. this is a tough performance. i'm interested in the reaction to his speech from the other side. well, you know, not very happy. i want to understand that china has some idea or ideas next,

if the understanding of china's allies of this entire large third world that is supposedly there, then it is not very simple with us on the one hand. that is one border. china cannot allow any defeat of russia because for it it is, well, not death, but let's put it very badly. so. i think it's understandable. why is it not necessary to explain from the other side. china does not want a long-term conflict, because china is being drawn into it nikolayevich says. it's been advocated from the start for stop means shoot. sit down at the negotiating table. but they have it there is some. the real proposal how can we achieve this from the very beginning advocated not to over-escalate because they are not directly ready clash with the americans, and the chinese are constantly pushed into this by the americans, they are, uh, harshly to put it mildly, for helping us the chinese is not i like it, but china has no concrete proposal on how to get out of this war, just like there is no one among the turks

, the chinese, nor the brazilians , no one knows how to get out of this until the moment when it is inflicted in full military the defeat of one, how would we designate our plans alexander, let's not. this is still a pro-russian story. what am i in china? as they say, georgievich is like that? here's a specific plan to do something, do that and so on. it's still a game for us, of course, in general , it's something else. the fact is that china probably has some kind of plan, but it's the same as everyone has. here to sit in the hall, and even china itself is deeply convinced that this plan tomorrow will not be implemented china's plan in another directly. well, china is an excuse for you to come to the mertkovsky conference and instead of russia to tell everyone there you saw the expression on their faces that china will not leave russia, that there is still more strengthening ahead. uh, the russian-chinese relationship, not excluding military-technical cooperation and

what he said, who is against. he is like a diplomat, not a president of the united states of america. but he also said that it became unprofitable for certain forces to have a negotiation process, which has already begun for these certain forces. this is not europe, he emphasizes that they do not care about the interests of europe on february does not give a damn about the fact that ukrainians are dying. that is, he said there at the mishkin conference, because we understand very well that you are all hostages here, and you are here in this conference, damn it , you are not deciding anything. talk nice to each other. look for which in fact it is at the beginning of my conversation will not lead to anything, all the same, the situation will develop, as it moves. now they are trying to speak. it’s me who will put us on the next plot, not only things that are pleasant for each other, but also trying to drag undecided countries to their side. if this story does not work with china, there are still african countries. there are

also latin american countries, here is a hint from the conference with them. now let's talk about the plot, let's see, alexander will return, but with them the finnish conference will also flirt with food. the old fascist and the author of the unforgettable phrase about the european garden surrounded by the jungle of all sorts of third-rate countries of cubarell jazz in munich was somehow uneasy to worry. it is due to the fact that the russian the interpretation of events in ukraine is well and effectively taking root in sudden countries , so it is necessary to put pressure on the fact that russia is just an imperialist and a colonialist in africa , south america definitely does not like them. she travels the world, especially in the global south, and i see how strong the russian native is, who wants to bring the war in ukraine, the conflict between the west and russia with a lot of accusations of double standards. we need to debunk these narratives and expose russia as a non-imperialist power. head of the european council charles michel in an interview

liberasyon admitted to the publication the struggle for the minds of asia and africa. brussels is first conducting special operations in ukraine, but so far unsuccessfully. so you need to try check. the mimics of colonization are welcome to give the local leader a protocol honor, to invite them to a beautiful dinner, to go from happiness that they are considered to be people who should give themselves up with giblets. so michel says we must invite the african union to the g20 the european union has decided to support the proposal of the african union to enter the g20. i think this is a good example of how we should trust each other. friend to listen and respect each other in addition, within the framework of the munich conference , the hackneyed theses were again heard that it was russia that was to blame for the food crisis. and it’s as if he deliberately deprives the poorest countries of food, destroying ukrainian crop fields, and the west, blocking our fertilizer and taking the lion’s share of ukrainian grain for itself, is not at all exploitative. yes, we must explain

to affected countries that the reason food prices are rising is because grain is not available. it's not because of western sanctions, but because russia is bombing. aleksandrovich will be able to drag one of these undecided countries to the storage facility and the ukrainian fields, because for serbia, the example of serbia held on held on held on , they announced that, nevertheless, from the first of december, from january 1, 24, they introduce visas for russians, but are going to introduce visas. understandably under pressure may be africa and latin america, so the structure of today's conversation is well thought out. i want to give the editor a compliment, because this question is a continuation of the question, on which we began to answer at the beginning, does it really mean that they were exhausted , because really remember it began when the west had everything to show and they were sure that the whole world was against russia, that the whole world had isolated russia, now they themselves were convinced. yes, these fifty-two countries that, to one degree or another

, are fighting against russia are fighting. they understand this, well, more than a regiment is not added. absolutely right. and these are all biden's trips, these are all. loud glory and sobs and prayers in munich the conference says that it is not enough to complete the picture, that the whole world against russia the whole world isolates russia is not enough. and here , attempts to fight for e africa for central asia, zolota central america will not work, nothing will work, because there, too, they see everything first and see it at first, they saw it not a year ago, but 200 years ago. yes, they will not return for the beads, because honestly, more more countries understand? eat? yes, there is such an idea that this global south, but it is still chopped like this for beads, maybe not, aleksey is right by the river, this is for a billion

dollars, maybe the same. how do you feel while the global south. this is also wrong. latin america is it? history, africa and southeast asia, the third is completely different, there are statements by the recent president of uganda who said that and we, that is, the africans, forgave the west for the western colonialists for their actions in africa and now they want us, that is, the africans, to condemn russia that will never colonize us. this reflects this as a whole . here, if we talk about their sincere positions. whether the goods be, then other countries of africa, e, a number of other states. this is a sincere position. now, as to, and the positions that can be forced upon them or which they can slide under pressure. after all, we understand that in the same serbia and the vast majority is the vast majority of the population. in general, sympathy

refers to russia and alexander vuychich sympathy refers to russia does not want to drive. wait, he doesn't want to impose sanctions against russia every time about it. you know, everyone is in other conditions, she, she, as it were, it is surrounded by absolutely unfriendly countries these not very african countries are sometimes even more difficult economically in latin america and many latin american countries are very dependent on the united states very dependent and of course, if you know mexico for a year, during this year you also resisted american pressure, despite the fact that this country borders on america. it has a very close relationship with washington, however. there is also parliamentary cooperation between the russian, uh, the russian duma and parliaments, and mexico continues, and so on, but gradually, as this conflict in ukraine continues, the pressure of the united states and the pressure of the west will increase, and they are counting back that not

everyone will be able to bend everyone unconditionally, but for many that their calculation and gradually we see it today, serbia tomorrow. this is different, therefore this story is now playing not in ours, if possible, briefly, and about china you are the main one in the case, because now everyone is looking for a lot in common and the current situation, as it is and how the chinese are looking for it a year later, he understands that the russian economy has become very heavily sinicized and is now oriented to a large extent on communication with china if you look at, uh, what it consists of, it is 90% even with a small percentage of raw materials. we supply raw materials to the automotive market there. now in russia it is practically only imported - it is only chinese that will be supplied. now that africa africa is also looking for benefits. well, well, if minister lavrov is coming, what can i say? no, we won't let him in, of course, let him come, maybe the french will do it.

now they were talking like that, so maybe, maybe even, maybe even he will bring something else, that in a year the topics of communication have changed a lot from economic communication, which prevailed a year ago. for defense and, they say, weapons , we export the security of the apartment, how much is it, yes, so now three participants in the world of the process russia, ukraine and the european union are losing, and china is watching a year later. russia is not very soon, now it will improve relations from europe, eventually it will improve, but not soon, but the danger for me is increasing, so now a year later, i will say to china, which means that you have for a long time some kind of izizirovanie russian economy now let's think about our security in china, no matter what happens. god forbid something, and therefore they are preparing to resolve the taiwan issue for some kind of their own, well , usually from those people whom we

heard before, one should be friends with the west. and with china it is not necessary. we now hear that the russian economy has become chineseized, which is some kind of nonsense in this sense. this is very dangerous to say. this is very dangerous. what a horror. also, we deliver seriously, she's delivering something else. car listen to the car. well listen, first of all, i started the economy toned up. secondly, that never. well, what does he say, well, yes, as in the first place somewhere again what? bunnies of all goods, turnover and the economy are different things , it turns out, yes, like several other countries, they really help us in this sense, because through them either their products, or, therefore, another similar one helps. this is absolutely correct, yes, and they help themselves with these natural ones, but one does not contradict the other. no need. it's like making a change. now, with regard to the struggle for the minds. this is a fight for the minds there, i mean there in africa, latin america, it

took place and up to this day it will naturally intensify. why because for one simple reason, from the very beginning they set the task of isolating russia. what is isolation from all sides, she doesn't get it doesn't work out, so they will make an effort to succeed or not to succeed. it's a matter of competition again , our competition. what are you watching again? they will say that the soviet union gave this conditional global south, primarily africa and probably latin america in asia , less ideas. socialist ideology that's it. right now we can’t offer this, but we can understand the economic uh capacity, what they are talking about, there are two types, that and some said liberal views, that here we are keeping all sorts of african regimes there fifth or tenth pantries there , this is nonsense the whole world invests , and we should not invest, the second means extreme - this is what we cannot to offer any ideology the world does not expect any ideology from us. i want to draw your attention to the fact that the scattering has been coming

officially for a long time already, the contagious approach for the difference in views for the fact that people are friendly in their countries. they themselves determine how they live no one in africa in such a country or in such or in such a country you don’t expect them to come and plant some money and offer some kind of ideology. but this was a little normal, alekseevich, you want to say that african countries are only waiting for money, of course, they are waiting for many questions. a lot of questions first why? same in the second relationship. naturally, if you can earn money, the third is security issues, the fourth is humanitarian, and so on and so forth. russia can compete in these countries with the united states, they can put everything we know to sort through in a couple of minutes. he

returned from the war a long time ago. don fought his shit, but the war does not let him go as the commander of a combat group at the moment, no one is decently wounded, but i won’t give a shit about this kind, in short, it’s not a matter of time. document

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, as the main negotiator in our country, he always worries, encourages negotiations. here he was not invited to the munich conference, and andrei vladimirovich fedorov turns out to be sitting there somewhere in a secluded place on february 23. yes, he should come back. so when we go back on the air. we will ask andrey vladimirovich how he made his way to the munich conference, what he managed to do there find out. e, hmm i think it will be interesting to listen to this, and now we will continue about the fight for the minds. what did anton khanchenko talk about in the previous part? well, that is, i am propaganda. ah, you can say about the phenomenon. i propose to divide it into three streams, which means the first propaganda stream , which he probably for the western one, as if he romanticizes the layman, as if in general

he tells this whole story about what heroes, uh, ukrainian citizens and there the fifth tenth, so this second one is probably on the scale and ukraine is also laundering. eh, all sorts of nazi manifestations. that is, this is azov. they are trying to clean it up there, and the third stream is exclusively ukrainian history , which began to give a little bit of the opposite effect, because, well, it’s obvious that people are starting to get tired of these kind of nazi there, uh brains. so let's go here. well, of course from the first point. otherwise, when you were such a movie. i don’t remember in the early eighties it was called red dawn about how we and the chinese captured. and america and well, this is a classic, in fact, that's where young young patrick swayze played. uh, won uh, chinese and russian children, well, really teenagers. here, they are so heroic, something like our elusive ones, but it all looked different. want to see. this is what we see now, in

principle, it reminds me of this film about how children prepare here and not only children, but also women and in general everyone shows some kind of miracles. valor such a moral in the first place. let's have some snippets we'll see. in the bunker, according to the times, the ukrainian authorities live and work almost without getting out on the surface of the conditions of sportan electricity, they work under the ban in the rays of smartphone flashlights. here they sleep and eat for weeks without seeing families. and when moving around the territory of the bunker, he uses passwords from phrases in ukrainian, so that it would be difficult for russians to quote them. those who were invited to live next to the president in an underground bunker had to sign a non-disclosure agreement forbidding them to share any details about the design. bunker location or amenities they are not even allowed to talk about the food they eat. western propaganda is actively driving

ukrainians to the front to go into the trenches, motivated by stories about serving shoulder to shoulder with beautiful ukrainian women, she is a snaithon girl, how did your colleagues react when she joined them. they were shocked, the american tv channel news nation scribbles an uplifting story about teenagers ready to die in battle. the plot showed fifteen-year-old schoolchildren who train in the gym to be sent to the front under the force of such confidence autoplot, only ukrainians. these children have made the decision to leave their dreams behind and set themselves the sole goal of protecting their country. these teenagers. just like my son, and i can't imagine him making the decision these kids had to make. analysts shifted to the genre of suggestion in the spirit of kashpirovsky's sessions on last week's evening

news, the host of f5 minutes talking about the successes of the ukrainian army and how poorly the russians are fighting against the backdrop of footage filmed with a drone. the military are sitting without identification marks , the journalists were talking frank nonsense, some of the battalion are losing half. there is no need to guess at your people about the fighting spirit, because we already see what is happening. is it possible somehow? dissect and understand how it works and why? and with difficulty? well, we won’t pay attention to this any cheap cheap movie, it means it works. why does it work, of course, but seriously, then, of course, the main flow of information from ukraine to the west goes irrationally to irrational level, what is called romantic on the impact on emotions,

so even this water is poured out, what passes. emotional tasks wait like propagandist to propagandist. yes, no one hears us. who is there? who will give here means if military operations are against some kind of your enemy and everything is cool with you, because you have the leadership of the country , which means that he doesn’t sleep, he doesn’t eat, he doesn’t pee, he doesn’t poop, and he’s sitting in the bunker right now , the beauty is making plans . they go to war with such a schnobel and children from kindergarten also go to fight and everyone cares, because your enemy is already drinking water from puddles. he has nothing to fight with , the question runs away, yes, and the question runs away. and why, then, do you not win the victory if everything is so good with you, and your enemy andreevich well done , you are right in the root, let's agree on this. let's listen andrey vladimirovich beauty there, all this well done

let's get money. just liked some saying so cheholchik. then andrei vladimirovich will turn into arkady in general on this one, just wait. well, well, the clouds they build. here are these emotional of all these parcels, but breaks due to the fact that in the core of this cloud is absolutely nonsense. and lies, and they beat themselves. they themselves break, he is with me propaganda in this sense for comparison. here are, uh, propaganda centers, if they exist, i don’t know that work in our country and, in particular, how they give narratives and video sequences in connection with putin, on the contrary, he says, we live a normal life. we go to work, we launch balloons into the air on march 8 , and so on. that is, it is in our perception our propaganda, because we also

emotionally listen emotionally pumps, but this is not contradictory relatively, but this is relative to the use of approaches, right? for almost a year, including you, we are told that the ukrainian army is broken. it's on a specific broadcast. it was that here, here , here, a little more, and everything will crumble. i even said that for this we showed. we showed the basis of what we saw on social networks ourselves without inventing nothing, how are they lying in the mud asking to be taken away these terrorist defense men who say you will see us from here. we do not know how, we were thrown somewhere to die, and so on. we show all this and it is created by our viewers. i think, yes, and sometimes i have that a feeling of some worthlessness and underestimation, maybe this army, which we oppose either about propaganda or the real picture of the world. here are the propaganda, these are the difference between scouts and spies, and you understand. here are national pictures with children,

e girls, and so on, they are designed to block this reality, which is also being received cemetery in ukraine i haven't canceled, which grow like mushrooms after the rain, we don't grow. well show me them, that is, do not die. uh , soldiers you show me, these are the cemeteries they showed, people are dying here too, unfortunately, a lot just a few minutes ago they ate a dugout in the kursk region. six people died there. this is on our russian territory. this is a level conversation. i'm talking about the patriotism of demography, and you answer me. but what about abortions? uh, of course, what you say is true, they die our guys are dying, but well, a little bit in different proportions, for which i also got up, for example, can you imagine, moreover, and not even with us, just wait, the day after tomorrow frost, these are perpendicular stuffing. they are designed to

bring down, as it were, just, in fact, are you right now? uh, how would they bring in. this is an additional point, because i wonder how some of these propaganda techniques are used, but they are used correctly. as far as we are something , they still call us propagandists. okay, to hell with him. let there be something we we do not improve. or we should, on the contrary, again. excuse me for the twentieth time we are returning to this to take into service some of them, for example, it is important that propaganda be effective and i always say that it must be smart. yes, they must be blunt. it can be called in different ways, but for us it is important that efficiency is not only important. aid special operation for the last 20 years, if not longer, so that the ukrainian population does not fiercely resist russia and the ukrainian army and other parts of ukrainian society, but accepts some

russian position. yes, so that ukraine is about russian and not about western, and for this you need to apply. why did the westerners in ukraine win all these years, and we weren't really there. large is correct. today today i saw a picture taken in poland, i won’t name a city, i don’t remember, and ukrainian refugees live there compactly. and there, uh, there was some kind of store where, apparently they have there, they get some kind of food, it was written that supposedly there were products with already hmm expiring a year. and this one. well, such a counter, as it were. and there, it means, they throw some things that i don’t know there. well, some ham. well

, something like meat, some kind of sausage there in a wrapper. and here is the crowd, which means these people, they start each other, it means pushing them to fight for these people. in general, such are our nineties and the person who posted it. he's writing. here he says, look, that means, uh, in general, in the commentary there in ukrainian. and this is already being written by some russian, apparently a russian citizen. he says, i say, i don’t understand one thing. these people are behaving, so they are fighting for a expired food. at the same time, they are absolutely sure that they live or maybe lived in conditions there with microwave toilets, stoves with tvs there, and the russians don’t care. that is, a person does not understand. here is the paradox. yes, why do these people then continue to adhere to their own standard ones, why , roughly speaking, they don’t meet russian soldiers with bread and salt, how did propaganda ingrained and scared well before that is impossible, even. well, as far as the level that they have there

ukrainian people. and what does zitelno have to turn to ukraine with regard to your video. here is the one you showed here, it reflects the main propaganda stereotypes. on the one side. on the other hand, heroism against the bosses is feminine charms, the attractiveness of the female image, and on the third hand, that there were still children there, and the children are ready to fight, and so on. and at the same time, the weakness of the enemy. he's bad too after all, no one explains. why, at the same time , they still bang to grab from both sides, there and so on. he drinks water from puddles bombed, destroyed and so on. this is precisely the clumsy but effective propaganda that is broadcast by the ukrainian and world media. everyone finds in it what is emotionally mythological to him. myth is emotions. emotionally it suits him, he wants to see it. how is that? here i myself am deceived. glad. these people consume this information from the other side from the other side. here victor yuzafische said that it is necessary to turn to the ukrainians, there and so on there are technical possibilities in order to turn to them in large quantities, but enough, but in large volumes

. since the fourteenth year, we have not blocked yandex vk and that's it, the rest is the only ability. let me finish any technical ability to refer to them. we don't have tv channels. no, zelensky closed four tv channels, more or less, not loyal media. there is a country and so on. they were also closed journalists were closed and so on. there were no such opportunities. we did not have the only possibility - this is that putin treated the message that was discussed there, again in the same negative vein, we and the ukrainians have never addressed the people with a message to the ukrainians in two languages ​​until now, on the kremlin website there is an appeal to ukraine in two languages ​​telling it thirty years ago addressed to ukraine come on now address. sorry after you start. let's just say it's too late and not now. now it will be too late to be perceived, and

there is already quite a lot of appeal from everyone there, they don’t reach there and we were kicked out we don't have a russia today broadcast anywhere. we can not convey anything, in general, our media compared to the world. they are really technically inferior. we can't just uh, here they are pouring everything like concrete, with this stream, it's not even counter-intuitive. see the exit. e, folded the only way out. the only way out is really a doctrine, the truth is to tell the truth as it is. this is what you call smart propaganda. same. wait if you wait, wait. that's honestly, yes, if now wait, if effectively such, that's stupid clumsy work, but we need a result. so we need an effect. we need to become we need then. yes, too, something like this. hmm well, we could clumsily work differently from what is shown here, of course, and someone is even trying to do that, but we can't do it all. eh, so let's say to convey there technically. that is, you

mean it, of course, of course, yes, yes. czech muttered. sorry for this word, but i didn’t catch that, well, alexander proceeds from the fact that to convince someone of something to develop him, perhaps to convince him of something. yes no, of course, somewhere, each in its own way, but the problem is not in this problem is that i muttered this about, if only i still understand, what is the truth, then, for more than eight years now. but it was necessary to know and ukrainian scholars should have known that for ukrainians there are, as it were, two categories of residents, but ukrainians and donbass, here is donbass - this is not this, or i do not agree with you three categories. yes, there are more of them who lived in the center of ukraine, the eastern conditional donbass and reserves.

here are those who lived in the center, they westerners, sometimes they did not even understand. simply yes, they do not understand love, but nevertheless donbass is a certain substance. that means those who support the donbass are separatists, respectively, since the annexation of crimea, russia has taken the separatists and donbass aside . in fact, the truth means a person who, uh, well, you don’t care about alexander nikolayevich, there’s no one there, but why is it quite there that they ask what we are talking about a person and when the conversation comes up. eh, that's what i'm asking these people about. and tell me, here is something to connect you with the donbass. you

, as it were, are in this topic. i have not seen a single person, but to whom this would be connected. well, if this was allowed by us, some such. here is the ideological position taken by the ukrainian enemies. see how it should have been done. i already remembered this example, it is exactly 100 years old. he is exactly 100 years old, which means that the russian propagandist water propagandist larich mayakovsky hmm wrote a poem debt to ukraine in which he said that there is no place, so to speak in russia in the country of the soviets ukraine and this is much deeper, and so on, this must be treated.

sincerely, we understand and so on. and it really is. look, what is really happening is not eight years , much more, the west is actually conducting its special military operation for the nazis and militarization of ukraine is real, and so are they. this, unfortunately, succeeds - they create an institution of national memory, which is russophobic. and what is happening at this very time with us . it is not clear what institutions worked there, how for what money, and so on, they only attack from themselves, what is happening now ukraine should not exist ukraine should lose the statehood of the ukrainian language no, ukrainians, invented and etc. thus. we want to win, but if not sympathy, then understanding. uh, several tens of millions of people, this is how we want, but they don’t, but they, on the contrary

, were heading, the west, i mean, and the money was given by the national, ukrainians said, and so on your territory is changing. and i agree that in part, so to speak, of course , it's too late, but who should change the territory of our president. he is the supreme commander all the time says that we are one people we are one. yes, there are different. here are the fools. there is not only their presidents are not only presidents. the president speaks every few months. and as for the channels, they work all the time and now in ukraine they watch channels, youtube, not so to speak, and everyone reads about telegram or on youtube, they don’t need to, they don’t watch anything. everyone is watching. speak and be heard. and if we say so, we will say less that i understood that alekseevich's position does not exist . clearly, andrei nikolayevich, listen, well , firstly, with regard to the effectiveness of ukrainian propaganda. wherever it was there or so what you cited. that's an example

total propaganda, which is possible on the territory that you control 100% in terms of information. after all, i can translate back, for example, the ukrainian house tv channel, which completely tried to work on the territory of the donbass well , what did the ukrainian propaganda achieve some success there? , which we have it may well work in exactly the same way, because there are gray levers for this, but in efficiency. positing we they didn’t set the task, starting in 2014 , of creating some kind of conditional partisan front or creating, really. we are here all the time. here. uh. here, that side begins to drop the terms separatist separatists. if you look at the minsk agreements, nothing is said about separatism, and nothing was said about the exit of donbass until 2022, of course, the agreement implies. wait so we say left, if we set the task of propaganda, what exactly we had to promote our goal-setting 8 years

was that the ukrainians should solve this problem within themselves, moreover, if you look in the first days of yours, it was repeatedly said yes, the liberation of donbass, but the rest of the territory of ukraine should resolve issues in its own way. i say it again when we talk about the ineffectiveness of russian propaganda. i say again, we didn’t have it, as such, we don’t have it, because the lord, alevich and the lord would not have been sitting, then they wouldn’t say here what they are saying now, if we didn’t say the exact opposite here . let's do it again i say, if we say that we set the task of propagandizing the population, then you get ukrainian history. look, if malevich says that it was impossible for the ukrainians to be inspired that they were somehow not up to people not to the state, all solovyov left vladimir rudolyevich alone. at rest we have our own people to discuss alexander nikolaevich says that ukraine is at least. these are two communities. i tell him three, because

those who live in the middle say there and to the left, if you look at the map like that, they are to those who lives. to the right, donbass is treated as its expression of substance. so it turns out, wait, wait, then you get that you are completely on the opposite side. now we are discussing efficiency, yes, but discussing is effective. the value of any process can be said only when it can be measured, if there is nothing to measure, that is, efficiency scales. if not, then what can we talk about, how can you change from the fact that they all think that i have toilets at home. no, i 'm walking in this ass completely what i see all of these. efficiency i unit sokolov asked. i say, you have been living here in moscow for a long time, you have been living in toilet bowls, you have seen it she left the answer. and here sokolovskaya and the ukrainians? well, because she, as it were, also propagandizes,

it turns out so well. let's alexandrovich excuse the effectiveness of russian propaganda in ukraine if it is impossible to measure more than 20,000 criminal cases literally over the past year, these are the people who do not share ukrainian propaganda, which means that society is at least heterogeneous, but to say that ukraine , i do not agree that ukraine is there divided into communities. there, donbass is all conditional since 2012, today the whole of ukraine, the entire ukrainian society is divided into only two political societies - these are anti-russians, those who are ukrainian propaganda propaganda from the west , and regardless of what language they speak and russians, this those who are suppressed by anti-russians and those who still consider themselves part of the russian world, also regardless of language. everyone saw these prisoners of azov. they hate russia hardly in russian. there are just two categories of people who live in the ukraine way did not apply. yes, there are a lot of these appeals. i was here not about what is effectively ineffective putin today says that we are one people, that the russians

are at war with the ukrainians, they believe that they once understand, the people are at me. i'm from ukraine, i think so. you are what most ukrainians think of you, god listened again, you know, on tv, i lived there and now dear guests. we need to break. i beg your pardon, but here is for you, it seems to me proof of the effectiveness of the ukrainian propaganda, because right here, people can't talk. and so to the second stream in a couple of minutes. on the day of the defender of the fatherland on ntvenno. why do you want an unusual war

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is no reputation there, none of it. it is impossible to fix it, but if the case is taken, knowledgeable people can make some rather successful attempts. german newspaper shocked by propaganda videos of the azov regiment recognized as a terrorist organization in russia, as the newspaper writes, the advertising for the recruitment of recruits is made according to hollywood standards, and the video and sound editing quote calls for the basest instinct of violence. thanks to its ever-growing propaganda machine, azov is spreading not only the ideology of fascism and the superman and myths about heroes, but also targeted disinformation, primarily the lie that azov was torn by nazism, which is widely spread by politicians and media in the european union and the united states, confirming that terrorists from azov were not torn by nazism

on the internet, fresh footage constantly appears, militants, recruits, joyfully zigzagging and chanting nazi vines in chorus . and this is the manufacture of a metal instrument for torture with tips in the form of the ukrainian coat of arms. the master claims that he makes them for the militants, so that they would burn the stigma on the bodies of russian servicemen, souvenirs are waiting for the orcs on the front line. the thick boiler steel is preheated and holds the temperature well and adheres well. but the all-seeing western media prefer such details not to pay attention. now the terrorists from azov are working hard on their international image. in december, the militants with their wives arrived in israel where they compared the blockade of azov-steel with the protection of the jewish fortress masada. what led the western press to rapture, and in recent months, the nazis have been riding around europe with a tour of a film about themselves in

january. they presented it in paris, for example, there was even the ex-president of francois in europe, the militants position themselves as a right-wing, radical movement, nazi manners with torchlight processions and ritual the burning of occult symbols is explained by the traditions of pr, as it turned out to bear fruit in early february, recognized as an extremist organization. no stopped blocking the militants. azov in social networks. this is a very cool solution. we did not have examples when we filmed such a large-scale bank of everything, which lasted for several years . it's no longer blocked. this is a new story that is very brightly covered by ir, but you think european mussels and social networks are not russian-speaking yet yes, but here is how it is perceived there, the terrorist battalion banned in our country is about him. here, indeed. still, people see these absolutely nazi manifestations, but they turn a blind eye to them or they talk about these

details as uncomfortable with uncomfortable pictures - they simply are not put on. but such national patriots and ukrainian braves, guys, are ready to defend azov there, and so on and so on, how does it all look? in principle, what i told you is true, yes , the second point, yes, that is, well, they are trying not to do great. which of course this prank. yes, uh, which is present does not mean that the entire azov absence of other yes, but the fact is that, how to say, he is a new story. yes , because azovstan, yes, which, well, as an example of heroism, yes, it is perceived in europe , yes, it just helped eazov, yes. well, wash away this one for yourself, but the nazi stigma, that is , the ideology of these defenders for them, for us, in quotation marks, does not bother them. yes, because for europe it is more important that they defended themselves from e, now to turn around, but from russian aggression, that they were defending themselves from this horde from these orcs, as was said. yes, that is , they defended themselves, and the one who defends himself

turns out to be theirs. and that russia is russian and russian aggression is a thing even more terrible than it is. here they are. yes, of course, they are nazis, yes. no, this is not a question. please tell me that they are protected is more important. please tell me, this is again the result of such propaganda pressure, and mmm. is it possible? when well, this point of view will change, or everyone will say further they are wrong, but the conflict must end, so that now it’s more important just the perception that ukraine is protecting, that aggression between others, and then there will be time to analyze these petty pities, as they sometimes say, we had the same small summer cottages.

by the way, when when the americans took them to themselves, they took the kalmyks who fought on the side, and they took the third reich and the honor of bandera to themselves, there are still people who, in general, are the descendants of these people who live in the usa support what is happening there now . here there is nothing new to them, when when the united states or other westerners somehow not only western countries benefit from supporting whom? and who carries them out implements their will? they do this despite certain ideological differences. here are the americans, and their anti-communist position is known, but when it was beneficial for them to support the opposition communist party of iraq in iraq, which was in opposition, by the way, there are geese there, but they supported it, so there is nothing surprising here. preferences. uh, azov aidar, or someone else it is known to them, but they believe that these people are extremely motivated, that they are rather brought up in hatred of russia and that they are, uh, experienced and effective fighters for them. it turns out victor

that when we appeal in our appeals, so we are fighting fascism in ukraine and fighting nazism in ukraine, pointing to these absolutely real battalions. this is non-working stories for europe and the west because well, the fascists well, and that they are not working stories, because the vast majority, but the warring ones are not nazis. and we rarely talk about the battalion. azov viktor alexander yes formation, and most of the people who mobilized the heights are not nazis today. let's here it is approximately the same expense on how the wehrmacht ss should be divided, and could it be considered that i could not have committed a crime during the great patriotic war that they are not members of any nazi organizations , unfortunately. today we must say that the burned forces of ukraine are a nazi formation, a nazi organization that

someone specifically within it is not in any formal organization. it doesn't matter in fact. they today share the principles of the approaches and actions of the nazis. so let's just put these tales about the guilty innocents aside, especially now the question is about that. they understand, they don’t understand , you understand the question something deeper when we say that we are starting the fight against nazism. they are in europe, in fact, azov as such, that's all. the rest was allowed or promoted, it seems not for the sake of the ukrainians, but for my own sake. because the rehabilitation of nazism in europe began much earlier than it began in ukraine, and all these documents that equate the soviet union and make solemn santist germany are not even in our direction at all. this is the justification of nazism in europe. this is, excuse me, the justification that your ancestors participated in the holocaust in essence. when you were destroyed, but pretended that this did not happen when you imagined all of europe that worked for the german nazi machine.

represent as a kind of victim a. actually in fact, you were accomplices, accomplices and criminals. that's what we are talking about, and today you are simply creating a platform for the legalization of nazism throughout europe because it is very convenient. the reflex that you are launching today is how lethalism is. that's what's going on, that's the real thing, the truth well, i'd like to say i agree with victor joseph. yes, this is a pure pragmatist, and i remind you that the stash, who were distinguished by wild atrocities against the serbs, jewish gypsies, went there, and the famous wernerfon braun who created the american space program, yes, but get it right, first of all, uh, on the one hand. i also understand that the european inhabitants. he is in principle, or is he a political class? yes , he has a historical memory. he remembers that they fought in the volunteer legions with the germans against the ussr and how will we get it all back there. tell me, here we were arguing with alexei gennadievich. in ukraine , several youtube channels have now been banned, which represent kupchenko here but on ukraine is doing even worse in ukraine , for example, people take a mobile phone.

if you look, he is subscribed to a number of telegram channels or just keeps correspondence , he is taken to a hut, maybe he didn’t return from there, so he says that they read everything there. everything is fine. this is also not true, as we will convey to the europeans if a person lives in denmark and he does not have danish media. what about the protests against the surname in neighboring germany yes, how will they know about it? how will they know what the position is, how will they see it? this i shot, by the way, benrar. andrew presented well. i don’t know there, mikhalkov or someone there from the miners will shoot their film, how will we inform them about azov there , there will be other shots . yeah. let's take one last break. well, in the sense of peppering the last one with this propaganda stream, let's pause and continue the address of russian president vladimir putin to the federal assembly.

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be punished for one stay in the occupied territories by a former writer. nazi larisa nitso and demanded that all ukrainians who sympathize with russia wear a red star on their clothes, a sentence copying the practice of the third reich angered the inhabitants of ukraine madam. not tsoi was advised to close his mouth, the nazi responded by saying that, firstly , in ukraine, freedom of speech. secondly, it is not accepted as such. ukrainians say that i agreed and show off, if you grinded less with your tongue, then your name would not be rinsed with a brainwash. i want to say, my dear ukrainians. stop sitting, like mice under a broom, take some kind of fiction of their own, as if it was my direct quotes that another diode figure also caused. former deputies. irina furion with her statement about right and wrong names. wrong. these are, of course, russians to ukrainians who wear them , there should be questions you expect in ukraine if you live in ukraine and your name is john, then

you probably came from america take care of your identity. i understand you. if you are juan then, for sure. you are from spain, if you are called vanya for you, then i have a lot of questions for you on social networks . patriot ridiculed in the breed of ukrainian blogger. and farion in response to the table to threaten him with the court of ukraine is called. the boy explained with gestures that his name was juan, there was such an old joke, so alexander nikolaevich now, if uh, we agree with tennis bogdan anatolyevich that we cannot agree with our point of view. well, just technically technologically convey. yes, on the other side, maybe god bless him, they will devour themselves there. as a result, uh, thanks to some kind of campaigning move,

because, in principle, this is quite marginal, and such a statement is a lot they showed the quantity in the quality of life and, well, let’s say, after the annexation of crimea in the seventeenth year, i didn’t tell them that donbass was a problem and that it should either be solved now or give up this territory, because this would entail certain consequences. but they reacted somehow sluggishly. yes, yes, in general, a joke. and now , of course, there are people who are trying to turn etush's tendency into political influence, they will probably get some positions in some places in local parliaments, but it is impossible to turn the tide, because there are certain facts. there is a fact that

russia came to their territory. there is a bombing. and there is the fact that there is a military operation here, uh, there is nowhere for childhood. and alexander vladimirovich actually covers all this. for me, this is nothing new. it was said even farion for example, for 12 years. for example, yes, not me . i wanted to say, this is not. in addition, i want to say that these are the statements that we have just heard. yes, i heard them all the time, but since the fourteenth year, the perception has changed society in these statements. yes, if in the fourteenth or fifteenth year the majority perceived this as well, they were marginalized. what are morons? well, frankly, yes, now they already have fans, that is, really this work. why did this happen in your opinion, because alexander nikolaevich explains that the russians came with their tanks, because yes, i heard this thesis. yes, in the summer they started there in the spring, which is due to the fact that russia has now started a war operation, yes, then his attitude towards russia has worsened, in fact, this is all nonsense,

exactly. well, what has changed in what they say, they began to kill more russians. they began to more violently close the orthodox church, those who sympathized, and living in ukraine and those who, so to speak, were more pro-russian, ceased to be such, it was absolutely given. listen. i say not because i think so, but because i know, but every day we stream for ukraine, so a lot of people watch us for those. and now people write even from lviv, when i say, yes, there are some history, when there were 20 years ago, everything else was strong-willed, that people there are different. there are people there who are absolutely russian, yes. here they write, even from lviv, many people after that, well, they wrote my stream. thank you because they don’t consider us that we are all like that in lviv, such morons as this farion is absolutely ukraine is not unambiguous, but the question is what is it that she just said like this, it’s not tsoi yes that we have freedom , we say that you like to say no there freedom is only for no tsoi try to object

not choi here is an example of people who he may object to. if i had been there and objected, they would have put me in jail. here is what she says, this is article 168 of his code of incitement of hatred alexander is it possible? but you are talking about these people who watch your streams, including lvov. but they somehow do not tell you. why we don’t know anything about them and don’t hear them, in general they are afraid about them, i don’t know, they are in some other state, maybe they don’t empathize so much on the russian side. how we want to see this, because we are talking about them. well, honestly, about people from the lion who are looking at something positive in our direction, they say, thank you, but you’ll hear about this baby, because if you hear about them, they’re afraid they won’t be able to azerbaijani, you know, we’re not russian, right? that is , we come from ukraine, we will simply talk about what is forbidden to say in ukraine, yes , that is, even people there, they just look there. yes , someone heard a familiar voice. they watched it on youtube. she says the police have already been called for me. i mean, they're just afraid they clean up history. that is, there, well

, it’s impossible, that is, people here write to us, because they know that we will not hand them over. yes, that is, they do not write this publicly, but they keep in touch with us in personal messages, but publicly. well, it's a prison. it ’s just there, so that you understand what they are imprisoning for, that is, when bucha was right, when the sanction was a provocation, just a facebook teacher wrote comments. i don't see prison. everything, how is it impossible more than 20,000 criminal actions aleksandrovich, i have the same story on my streams are also often written quite often. the last people i remember were odessa kryvyi rih, there was some kind of third city, and i myself was at the time. well, i say, just don’t subscribe in any case, they came to my channel and left and that’s all and watch everything out of harm’s way. i have only two short theses, because you showed the first e, trace to andrey's words completely agree with them, because really, e, the acceptance and acceptance of azov with all its symbolism and ideology. this is just a marker. uh, the revival of nazism in europe is

a reality with which we must simply reckon with it, take into account putin spoke about this in leningrad, we say, of course, nazism and the second is a very short thesis. e, bohdan is right, he says, we do not have the tools to proactively deliver our version of e to the inhabitants of ukraine, therefore the only way we can influence the mass public consciousness is through physical actions to win to take the cities, their brothers into captivity. and it will break consciousness and break. here is a fake image of the victory that they drive into these. yes, for these people, but need two days. stop already. i apologize, a short pause, the last one is today and we will sum this one up. a mother of many children confessed to the murder of her own son. his head was pierced , gore had it done. my mom. now her eldest daughter deliberately takes away

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monstrous insinuation of all sorts victor western propaganda in ukraine and about western propaganda is very effective, and we see that it achieves its goals. as for russian propaganda in ukraine, we see, including on the battlefield, to a level in terms of the level of resistance, which they show us, that it is very ineffective and it needs to be radically changed radically , so bogdan anatolyevich, if we talk about ukrainian propaganda in its adequacy. i don't believe it, because this very idea, the current one, is ukrainian. it is based on lies. it is based on humanization over the demonization of the enemy, therefore , by definition, it cannot be adequate if people are set up there so that they kill prisoners in a brutal way. and this is justified, yeah, that we can talk about adequacy. no, she won't. so and rye such a view, a little bit from the side of propaganda, what you call inadequate were to continue as the conflict continued, because it will mobilize people inside for the ukrainian victory. uh-huh, andriy nikolaevich, this is me in general. propaganda solves

the task of ukrainian propaganda in perception, that is, the resumption of uplift and changed instincts, because they believe that this is the most effective now. naturally. no adequate propaganda will appear, because it makes no sense to me not that task in january 1945, the germans began to believe very much in the city. learning about this forty-fifth. ain't yeah it's forty fifths. january of the forty-fifth year of the war. still goes yozy in hell. with the minister of propaganda of the future, the nazi criminal sends directives to his propagandists, you understand , to fit a little bit into these horoscopes and there in independence further from whether taurus was in iraq or aquarius. it means that the next six months will be difficult, and then everyone will be fine. well, we know how it ended, if you had told me earlier that you were talking about horoscopes? what day was the joke about horoscopes another proof that we are live nothing, i'm just here it was mentioned here here is a foolish woman. i decided that i would find some such cute anecdote about names and found it. and i, by the way, let's congratulate

viktor zhezevcha on the birth of his daughter. here, yes, there is such an anecdote, and i called my son a lexus. what a fool. well, a fool is not a fool. but now i have a lexus. we don't know what their daughter's name is. well, for now , we don't need this information. so the meeting point. weekdays ntv 14:00. all the best to you, goodbye. hello fighters