about this today in our program. hello, is this the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear? i'm andrey norkin. my colleague is ivan trushkin. we are working on the air again, starting not as we had planned, an extremely unpleasant occasion on the other hand. i can't say for me personally. this is some unexpected news. we have talked many, many times here in our studio, and i have said to my colleagues that, of course, there will be provocations and sabotage. we must be ready for this, and so on and so forth, so before i say that happened. i have a big request to you, dear viewers, my dear compatriots. please take some pause. do not read telegram channels now. it's just ah. breathe out, because uh, when i started reading, well, to be honest, i have hair. it's just that everywhere they began to stand on end, then

some more or less, sober, a-a assessment begins, because someone is panicking now sincerely, and someone is panicking. excuse me on assignment , which means that today we had about an hour and a half ago the bryansk region. this is what i am saying now, these are facts. and the ukrainian saboteurs came in , the terrorists fired at the car with civilians . there is a dead person, the injured president putin is aware of all these events, as dmitry peskov told the president in the operational mode, all this is already being reported by the fsb director bortnikov, minister of defense shoigu and the head of the national guard. zolotova will have a security site meeting tomorrow. this is all. now peskov said, now to the events directly. let's. we are here let's turn to the governor of the bryansk region alexander bogomaz. it means that he told, and in the morning attacks were made on three

villages bordering ukraine. we will now show you maps of the usa lamakovka and lyubichnia , the distance between these settlements is within twenty kilometers. they are located in close proximity to the ukrainian border. we turned the map over a little, but now all this is insolent. it's clear. a it is known that in sushani a drone dropped an explosive device on a residential building, a fire broke out in a lomakovka there, ukrainian terrorists shelled the village , two houses were damaged, there were no casualties, but in lubechan, saboteurs opened fire on a car with civilians. and here you are not without casualties. there is one dead driver and the child was injured, according to the official information of the fsb, now a special operation is underway to destroy the terrorists. let's listen to the bogomaz governor again. today, from ukraine to the territory of the klimovsky district

, the village of lyubichaniye has penetrated the drg. the saboteurs fired at a moving car in as a result of the shelling, one resident was killed , a ten-year-old child was injured. the child has now been taken to the hospital. he is provided with all the necessary assistance by the armed forces of the russian federation , all necessary measures are being taken to eliminate the sabotage group. here, i would i specially not i not you we will not be now. e tells you what is written there in the telegram channels. it's all such foam, which means that peskov was asked a question today will there be a change in the status of a special military operation in connection with the events in bryansk area, so dmitry peskov said, i can’t say yet. here it is, nonetheless. i really want georg valeryevich, just don’t tell me again that you need to fuck with the bank account , i won’t count on it, no. yes means

look here there is one important moment. ah, bastard. yes, i keep forgetting, he yes said that they were not involved. they said that what is happening today in bryansk is a classic provocation by the russian special services. yes, well, he said, and, therefore, of course, to answer for this. i won't tell the truth now i pay attention to this, because yesterday there the day before yesterday. we had a discussion here that it was impossible to find provocations to be waged by our master, yes, in my opinion, yes, he moved it. it's good if it's if you want it, if it's a lure so that we don't hit the banks. we should have been hitting her, we should have been further, not for this, this is a lure. if anything, they talk about the same post. this was done during the shelling of donbass so that we would attack where ukraine wants us to attack and when it wants now a big libertine has begun, a big thaw is beginning. now they want to extend our big offensive there to the area in order to

push the border, but away from our territory. i have it differently. that's not important. well, i don’t know, i have something to compare. i remember. bosaeva, well, i'm from this here . you see, now you have moved on to the answers. if it's not quite there. hmm, there was such a story, there was a terrorist attack on civilians. yes, yes, there was a boy here who was injured, yes, and we are already shooting in the back. here who has now been operated on, which there are no penetrating wounds, but nonetheless. they, i mean, they see it's a baby shooting a baby sleeping. once again, this terrorist absolutely correctly cited examples with basayev, you can cite other examples that you did, and we are returning to a situation where it is quite possible on the territory of the russian federation that a series of terrorist attacks by ukraine be carried out in different ways. i remind you, for those of

our viewers who were born in the 2000s, they don’t remember, there was a complete military victory mobilization of society and the complete physical destruction of terrorists. this is the only way to secure our territory, but it certainly cannot be carried out on what has now come when the ukrainian terrorists. find this leopard between yours between your proposal for an early military victory and, after all, there are no military plans, our offensive should go, as the military wants it, that is, from the point of view of military expediency, when you need it, where you need it, nowhere now we are called by terrorists strikes on kiev by the centers acceptance of the speech should not be applied without conditionality after that. and the ukrainian regime should be officially recognized as terrorist, that is, there are two meanings that should be made in this story today. the fsb should be involved in it . yes, and the military should be engaged in what they were doing.

there is anton, i agree with gevorg in the second part, where he says that the military have their own plans, and ideally they should adhere to them, because such provocations are aimed at changing these plans. eh, promptly and not just as we would like and, uh, another important point, which we will probably also talk a lot about today. this is primarily a psychological factor , that is, does the military matter. this is a diversion of the military. no, it probably has a psychological one. yes , and at 13. excuse me, in the fourteenth fifteenth century during the hundred years war between england and france was such, uh, popular. and the view e. in your actions, shevashe, when i explain, and the british often used this. they entered the territory of france e did not encounter garrisons. no, they took fortresses. they just went and burned villages and some small towns, not fortified in order to

demonstrate to all vassals that the overlord cannot protect them. so it was such a psychological war. see they are weak. they can't do anything to us, you understand? and such raids, they were very popular, but just to demonstrate what is happening now and in terms of sabotage activities and in terms of flights of these drones, let's talk now. yes it very reminiscent. here is the same shavashe. see they can't do anything to us , they are weak. and what to do in such a situation? and then return, and look, and here, but this event in bryansk does not need to be considered. separate from uh i'm sorry, so it's not necessary separately, but to consider from a series of these drone attacks that appear in different places. maybe then let's go back now, please, okay? of course, we are you and andrei vladimirovich. i know that everything is not at all like that, true, he has not yet had time to really do anything.

to say that it is not so then we will return, yes , we will do so if there is some verified information regarding the bryansk region today during the broadcast today . of course, we will tell you and once again urge you not to follow all kinds of publications in telegram channels until today and do not read them at all. it’s just that you consider the telegram channel and regarding the attack, it’s good that we already mentioned here this attack at the beginning of the week, with which the ministry of defense quite successfully repelled, what is it about, and earlier our defense spoke about a thwarted drone attack in the krasnodar territory and in adygea, both drones lost control there and fell due to the work of electronic warfare in belgorod , three more aircraft fell, and the day before , our ministry of defense reported that on tuesday russian air defense repelled an attack by at least ten of ukrainian drones to the crimea an attempt

by the kiev regime to carry out a massive attack of drones on the objects of the crimean peninsula was prevented six ukrainian strike unmanned aerial vehicles were shot down by air defense systems, four more ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles were disabled by electronic warfare, no casualties, and no destruction was allowed on the ground, antonnovich. you think that these are the things of today's history, and what he is talking about now. this is one more order aimed at one target, and arrivals of the saratov region. also a series, which means no pressure, which you understand is all about the same thing. here. i absolutely agree with my colleagues that there is no significant these actions have no military significance. and the purpose of this is to intimidate the population. this is to change public opinion to redirect songs of the negative upward towards the leadership of the ministry of defense and the leadership of the country. and

psychological wars, information wars , our country in the last century went through with a plus sign with a minus sign, repeatedly not understanding this. this is very strange and purposeful. now, uh, when we talk about society? here you are talking about the telegram channel. there it immediately started. we fight wrong, so we the weak need to be tougher, but we don't do that. it was high time to hit the bank and so on, that and the like is not. no, it's just that for almost a year it has been called the object of this attack. unfortunately it passes. and this is when the readiness, in fact, that in the second year of conducting a special military operation, we have huge holes in information security, because every time well, seriously, i understand, i don’t understand, come on, how would these separately say nothing bad about it it's uh, defensive here is a bad word defensive

let's say. yes, if the goals are these here, and sabotage is to sow panic. as you said, there will be no question anton valeevich, because about the same people we call terrorists tried to do, and in western missions parades in the late nineties and there the goals were the same to sow panic quite right and turned a completely realistic act. it is absolutely possible when we call the president of the terrorist zelensky in our program such a status. maybe, somehow you understand it is impossible decisions will be made, because physical methods are a well-known practice. i'll just remind you that we didn't lose the first world war with tanks. not uh, i mean, not there, but with arms not by people, but by the head of faith at the top. it's true, andrei vladimirovich began to speak as soon as you said that today's events are not allowed. and here are the events. ate, and to share you said your catchphrase, which is not quite,

so not quite so, right? what does it mean? the fact is that, ah, simply understanding the decision-making only you know it. tell us and is engaged in one structure. with these ground operations, i want to say, simply. no, they're just independent terrorist groups. although it is good to say that in the near future, about the same thing could happen on the territory of the kursk and smolensk regions. and so this is the first. if you have this information andreevich, you passed it on. yes , with regard to this particular operation, then i actually have no connection with drones, there is one very simple connection, which friends from kiev, in general, do not hide today, although they do not publish it. this is a response to putin's speech 2 days ago at a colleague and the fsb when he said that it is necessary to increase we will also defend

against it even more strongly. that is, in two days they did the operation , they prepared it prepared in advance, there is more . this is the answer to this very specific terrorists, petty dirty tricks, who are responsible. that's it, that's it, yes, that's exactly what that's what told me. i understand the president of russia says that the border on the castle of the fsb keeps everything under control there. control, and we go through and start doing what we want. this is really a psychological blow - then you completely agreed with anton valench. and i'm not very good not quite so no, no connection by drones. no, these are different things , drone strikes said that one headquarters is sitting there and they say, that's what we are doing today. it was he who spoke about goals, you confirm exactly, the same thing. i mean, it’s just, uh, defense too and in the future it’s divided, so let’s talk about us a little , after all, alexander yuryevich, would you like

behave now? if you had any powers ho-ho don't give it, let it be worse, okay, i don't have it yet. i can restrain myself. and if there are brakes, i'll let go. ah, the main resource. e of our country in this great confrontation. and not only. uh, our adversary is talking about this, well, our president spoke about this in a message. this is the cohesion of our society, the unity of our people. and the enemy understands that this is our resource. uh, any enemy resource must be destroyed. here he is absolutely right. that's it, all these stories work to ensure that to introduce into society tear opposition. uh, wild logs and stuff about the moment, and yegor kvalich said that those who were born were born in the noughties. they generally, as it were, well, they cannot imagine how we lived in the nineties, when we had terrorist attacks, as it were , yes, and this raises the question. here we are

now, here i can somehow get there. and psychologically your mood, well , somehow regulate. yes, i 've seen something like that before. there are the same my children, for example, yes, who were born later there or well, they don’t understand this. here you are how it is unity is now our solidarity. eh, you will support if part of society in our country does not understand that it has begun to happen , it succumbs, of course, to the little ones quite calmly. here's the second part, well, at least it infuriates. well actually. we will be children here now, you should talk about children like children. we work with them as with children. no, they are now all adults to switch. well, they are all children to explain calms switching attention, the normal operation of the state machine. it happens with us, even peskov did it. it's been fine since this morning. everything means. uh, what else i wanted to add is something abnormal that you should have paid attention to, that there is a weakness in our

country. yes yes. not yet, it seems to me that today everything was fine if i had leverage, yes, after the first fake messages, your program would cut out a speech to colleagues who say, in what areas of the next would i cut 100%, probably, and i would i would hang the telegram channel for six hours. yep, technical glitch. durov let 's say so. well, that is such an under-censorship, but yes, a kind of cleaning up of information defeat. this is disinfection. so, regarding. i will support, because colleagues, with regard to military significance, there is something else here. that is military logic. this should be considered why but because hmm but the action of sabotage groups on our territory. and this is the first time ever. this is within the framework of a just war, this is a categorical violation of the basic principle

of proportionality. so not everyone understood. there is the concept of just causes of war; there is the concept of justice in war, that is, in bella yes. eh, there are two basic principles. the first is selectivity, that is, which ukraine has been violating from the first day. uh-huh it's peaceful, there and so on, so uh and the second is proportionality. answers our side has never carried out this kind of terrorist attacks on the territory of ukraine for 9 years , they are not going to do anything at all. and we are even at war, this is generally a dactrina. eh, what the people of kiev have done now. uh, in this form for the first time this violation of the principle is proportional, that is, uh the answer should be proportional proportional. they are a threat to us. we opened a window of opportunity,

because it is obvious and easily proven, and now the ball is on our side, and they will get this ball, as i think, they will decide. tomorrow we are never in a hurry, then about compliance, there is not compliance, answers , and so on a little more now implements plans, and a year ago we have there were no such attacks by assault groups. and to whom it is necessary to convey, it is necessary somehow, it is possible to think that we are doing something wrong, if a year after the start of the sv, we not only, as it were , have not achieved the goals and would like to return to the goals. everyone says psychological attack. let's talk about psychological defense, what we want to see when this happens. maybe we want to see the president address the nation. perhaps we want to see the leadership of the country, which our friends will tell us, our goals, such tasks , such for work, comrades. yes, all this should. remember now we even had a message from the federal you wait a second. you do not

blur yourself, then from yourself personally. what do you want to hear and see? i'd like to hear clear objectives and goals for our social operations. well, because our country is fighting you answered a number of goals we publicized. they thought about the liberation of ukraine for their own purposes, they know this rhetorical question regarding the goals, to which anton valeryevich really answered you, you asked this before today's events and before the drone arrived, you are all this ask. this is your kind of universal answer. but why? because i am alexei naumov, i don’t know the specific goals of specialists, who among us doesn’t know, you know these goals were announced and in general, let’s close this question on goals, because children’s turnovers on each of our opponents’ questions stop, or you speak of a different side, and that’s all, because i don’t know about the goal either, but you will agree. it's just political, well, ok, what

did you see as psychological defense? what was in what would be the response to this psychological attack people, really they ask, why the hell are bombs falling in my city in my village, what we answered them, alexei, this is, firstly, in its purest form as a defense. letters, bro, would urge alexei the bomb to communicate with his colleagues to control himself and not post what they posted this morning, because i read it. i'll forgive my frankness. i spat on the phone and what i shouted into this phone, i cannot repeat on the air. as for the answers, we will see all these answers, along the way, and at the end of the special military operation, what uh no no. yes, i think that we will see this sooner, because at first, as far as i understand, while in the bryansk region all these saboteurs have not yet been eliminated. i'm in globa , which means that this piece should end, then there will be some kind of our answer

. so, lord, so vadik made his remarks , alexei sergeevich, but about our psychological defense. i would like to say a few words, because we are in september for about half a year, yes, a little less, but we are observing, uh, events that we called retaliation strikes. i honestly i don’t remember who first came up with this, because not on the official, in my opinion, officially. well , someone launched it somehow hooked on, and everyone began to use it. although later many there, including the military, including representatives, asked not to use this, that is, uh, at some point they began to deliver massive such strikes against infrastructure facilities. and what is he right about? what is he right about? it really was perceived as some kind of our achievement. it's been a few months that we have at the moment here i am forced

again, to quote andrei vladimirovich, who told us for a long time that the ukrainians , they, well, in general, solved all these problems that we created for them when we destroyed energy infrastructure facilities a second second a second. so what are they saying now? they say that these ukrainian people are energy people, that they have no shortage of electricity in winter, they successfully survived and so blah blah blah, so on february 25 the ministry of energy announced that electricity generation covers consumption for the third week in a row very soon in ukraine, they will abandon the limits on energy consumption ukrenergo does not exclude the possibility that kiev will resume exports in the near future and the rector of energy in europe on the eve member of the supervisory board of the uk rnc yuriy boyko said that companies are waiting for commands from the government. because deliveries abroad are possible only after the supply of electricity to the domestic consumer is established

, the elimination of problems in the operation of the energy system, as he says, well, according to his assessment, this will all happen again next week i emphasize. this is a statement from the ukrainian side. maybe it's true, maybe it's not true. i don't know, i'm all . here is andrey vladimirovich, that is, we dealt these blows, and in general, i honestly admit. he was satisfied there, if you remember ramzan kadyrov once wrote after the first one. now i am 100% satisfied. the entrance to a special military operation. now the question still arises. well, look, it’s partly true, but why is it true, they explain why, because the whole industry, which required a huge amount of electricity, was turned off, a significant part of the population was dumped abroad, so there, too. why. because, if today's events in the bryansk region really untie our hands, why should we once again go over all these

objects of gifts in the centers making a decision in kiev when yesterday the destruction of any other infrastructure facilities in ukraine was completed, there are many options for all military experts, they say railway bridges, and depots different, that is, application options, they already say a year, they already say, open open the reports and read, then yes it happens, see not all varieties. so, this particular moment of options needs to be understood. what is the military and economic feasibility of these strikes? this is the most important thing, i think that there all calculations are made regarding attempts. here from some colleagues, someone to silence someone to express someone to delete. let's not forget that you and i live in an information period. and if you don't ask questions, there will be questions. a if you do not give an answer to the questions that

society asks, then these answers will be sought from the other side. i'm telling you that in general they live in this case, about anton, i'm talking about the need to maintain authority. remember this word as if we are now being told that we need answers, we need the whole truth. we must meet the country's results. look, you yourself said that the goals of those attacks that were undertaken the other day and today are us. disconnect a little and start asking questions there, if you look to how you now change me for this word canine, then those who came up with all this, they achieve their goals. that's definitely it. so andrey sunny to us about the e power system wanted to add something to the system. in fact, the energy system of ukraine works great, it works like that. do

some industrial work industry enterprises work now transport work all that are not. well, all the tin of the enterprise. here, yes, my job is the transport system, the railway system. everything works everything works. sorry for not then it worked after these blows, so, well , it really must be recognized according to the schedule. there will still be fewer cities. no matter how much yes, neither in kiev nor in lviv, you say everything. installed 92% no one feels anything. then i tell you, here is a list of some kind of shutdowns, even if you say small ones, where, well, let 's find some kind of logic. no, i say, 2% is small, this is our goal, some of our goals. well, at least in all major cities , the power supply system is fully operational absolutely by the way, and in the same there is no city completely

works provided with electricity. we talked about telling hands. here let's look well first, i'm from day one. he also said here that we have no task to destroy the energy system of ukraine , there was no such task and there is not. we do not want to turn off the light there , so we want to disrupt the work. so we broke it, because yes, it sounds cool , everything works. well, yes, because there is nothing, so everything else works. why is germany enough gas because it has no more industry, and then consumers, enough in germany anyway. we agreed to buy 25 million ourselves. there are no diesel generators, and therefore there is electricity for everyone. sorry, diesel generators - this is not a single energy system of ukraine uh-huh this is a fire mode there will be no diesel engine the generator will not work, but they will provide the army, unfortunately they use electricity, and

they use logistics, which means that the entire locomotive fleet is already involved, in my opinion interruptions regularly. what even we see is, uh, the statement of these is a lie, consciously literate, or let's say a half-truth, which is actually in kiev to odessa dnepropetrovsk of course there is, because it is a matter of propaganda, that everything is fine with us, look, cafe restaurants are working. we've got it all wrong. well, 20 km from kiev there is a limited supply of electricity once a day, a rolling blackout is constant, therefore. we our e our task of significant destruction of electro. uh, the systems of the unified system have completed completed , one more phrase must be completed. just remember the video and photos. yes, the answer to the question with diesel generators. this is the burshtyn chpp and dneproges, where the arrivals were to the engine rooms

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region is what we saw with drone attacks. these are such small, very noticeable injections, which still do not really affect the global picture. well, or at least measure not immediately. but as for the possibility of larger injections, what i mean is this one promised to us, including andrey vladimirovich, and the ukrainian counter us, for which the west is transferring this or that weapon to ukraine. so, as far as weapons are concerned, german leopards in the amount of just a few pieces reached the front, it seems, how they got there, but regarding the rest of the other tanks, there are questions, because for one reason or another , the allies, well, they say to ukraine, i'm sorry, now it won't work now. check back next month. let's talk about it the possibility of some more blows and the presence of ukraine according to the new york times, germany, together with the allies, cannot scrape together enough leopards even for two tank battalions. these are 62 combat vehicles. moreover, those who demanded most from berlin to allow exports. now they don't find

tanks to send so spain which has 108 tanks. she was very eager to send them to ukraine, but now she refuses, they say. many of them are in poor condition and in need of repair, which can take weeks or even months. the flow of tanks as many leaders swore, it would pour into ukraine , in fact, it looked more like a stream, germany offered 18, and poland another 14 tanks. but as soon as the tanks currently envisaged go into battle and the leopards are knocked out or broken, it is not clear which model and from which country the germans will replace them. at the same time, they themselves decided to calculate the reserves of their leopards. it turned out to be in working order. now less than half of the approximately 300 leopard tanks available to the bundeswehr, only 30% are currently in working order by the armed forces. germany arose and additional gaps, i doubt that we can continue to fulfill our commitments to nato from 2025 onwards. in kiev

, the germans are accused of inaction, the former went to germany and now the deputy head of the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine, andriy melnik, who called chancellor scholz, offended by liver sausage through the german press , demanded from berlin to tighten up the chancellor unexpectedly. answered no yes, i find it ridiculous, when you see how much germany is doing and that we are at the forefront of europe, it makes no sense to scoff at the scale german participation or doubt it is unreasonable for me to deny again and again. what is a significant commitment? we took upon ourselves germany should not listen to reproaches, from anyone we do more than many other countries do not shine for kiev and the coveted combat aircraft on the eve of the head of the german foreign ministry annals on willows announced that there were no discussions about sending such equipment to germany at all go. the ukrainians expected to receive up to 128 fourth-

generation fighter jets from the americans, but the united states responded. enough for you dear allies and 80 pieces. in general , the production of new f-16s takes almost 6 years, and therefore it makes no sense to start training ukrainian pilots now, since we have not made a decision. to put this machine in ukraine as well as our allies and partners. in my opinion , it does not make sense to start training in the use of systems that ukraine may never receive in the pentagon. they made another frank and unexpected statement to ukraine. it would be nice to pay for it, the weapons supplied to it are in their budget. there are no opportunities for this right now. scale, but they should start acquiring some military equipment. this is a very good idea. we must push them to start planning their own defense spending, as well as everything else that we will do as part of the support for aleksey sergeevich kievskaya bream. well, it’s me, even aleksey sergeevich, doesn’t it look like such a quiet european cathedral, that is, spain has been discussing

tanks so far. hey, come on, come on, so we have seniors. and as soon as you need to send to us. let's go to the next hangar. look maybe there the portuguese are anything but really around the circle. it seems to me that now is just coming, the moment that the american newspapers probably warned about, and in the summer the goals of ukraine and the goals of the west are different in this conflict . ukraine insists on a total victory on a total triumph on the return of the border the new rock times colonists also wrote that someday the moment will come when we will have to tell the ukrainians, dear friends. you have one goal, we have another goal. we need to prevent large-scale war on the territory of europe , the russian federation, we seem to support you, but let's already agree. we see that this is not the first case. yes, and these words about what requires victories from the all in september, or they will be forced to sit down at the negotiating table, that, but there are such difficulties with the supply. here are these conventional fighter tanks. the west requires ukraine to reckon with its

capabilities. both with the military and with finances. generally. this is that promising promising direction russian policy, which i think we should promote. why was it necessary then? well, to give such promises to kiev to assure him about the curl, because on these promises they are far away. i now already know, simply, that andrei vladimirovich is already boiling over, because , well, you will first answer yes, because in fact this is ideological support. she is very strong. you see how ukraine is ready to break into a cake in many respects for the sake of the promise of the light of the european future, the bright nato future. and it's for real very strong factor. they have an idea that this sacred europe is on the hill, sacred and the usa is on the hill, for which they are including, if this work is free and effective, why not the west it's not easy. i know what andrei vladimirovich will say there now, he guesses that everything will be given. well, half of them have already arrived. are we just that, what will they give? and don't deceive yourself here. right? i will say. yes partially yes means,

firstly, and ukrainians have become smarter. come on, no, they are smarter, this is, by the way, our stupid absolutely our russian. e such a thought that wait, not me, but before that there were no idiots. they're just what it was like in the past, when they took pride in every new weapon that came in. they are hiding it now. they don't advertise what's being shipped. so, uh, as far as tanks are concerned, first of all, for some reason, everyone is stuck with the leopard 2 leopard. one the tanks are already coming and coming very soon, which means that on march 20 the number, and the armored vehicles of the new characteristics of the systems, er, will er, reach 1,000 units. it's all the secrets of the noise ukrainians. no need to make noise. this time it all goes over and the same nonsense, 25 transporters are already in production in ukraine, new tanks are not

being produced. here it is important that there is a constant flow, but there is none. he does not need a constant stream of ukraine now ukraine in general immediately operation. does it mean that we, if we don’t need a constant flow , do they understand that they need to prepare ukraine for only this one operation, when all this is said that they are smarter, and then everything that we have is another different one, there are condoms. oh, that's why, that's why i i say again, do not check out what is happening in a second, please, so you said that the ukrainians have grown wiser and began to scream. everything starts up. wait but they need a one-time action, does this mean that, uh, wiser, our opponents believe that this one-time action will be enough to defeat nadia with armed force, quietly, quietly logic,

a little, different, they need not very much worship, they need a local victory that will lead to more even more income weapons. so stop. stop. stop. please wait, no threads needed. you said absolutely correctly answers questions about alekseevich's additional production. tanks are not needed, if a one-time action and a local victory is designed for the fact that there will be an additional supply of weapons, including tanks there, but you tell us that this is not necessary, because only a one-time action is needed. i got a little confused already in order to show that ukraine is capable of winning. and what does she need? an additional weapon and it will be this weapon. it look here all these tales that this is a union of military personnel is all. excuse crying for such a sake of which it is the same loshara as the imf experts who cannot read. well, he's crying. well, because now

the issue of increasing the military budget of germany by 2 billion is being discussed. i know, and therefore all the military are starting to say that we have nothing. everything is there, so, unfortunately, everything is there. the first and the first history of this whole special military operation showed that with the military-industrial complex or in the west. there are big problems. uh, what kind of equipment that is in europe, it may not be in good condition. uh, let's start not enough for ourselves, so they, accordingly , do not really want to supply it, but, uh, to be naive in the sense that they will now limit everything on this and will not deliver anything, respectively, is also not necessary. i have already said this and will repeat it. again. they supply this equipment for propaganda purposes for the alleged offensive of ukraine in reality. they are now posting - they are collecting all this urgently and supplying it solely in order to save ukraine from e, respectively, possible. uh. you do not tell me how you feel about the assumption. today, everyone sergeyevich once again voiced that and that means they will demand some kind of such success by september there. if this

does not happen, then he simply twists his arms and forces him back. i don't know, because they need the west, including. to explain to their own audience where they spent the money, it’s true, but what i would like to say it’s not about tanks on planes, uh, the strength of the ukrainian army is not at all in this, but the strength of the ukrainian army from the point of view of possible potential which the onset of some local success. they will try to do it in order to show the west. this is quite true strength, but in the fact that they can use human resources in any way they like. and everything for the war, everything for the victory, they can throw thousands of people to die with their people, and now look at them. what story. here, in contrast to us, we are limited by two principles, firstly, the principle, and in- speaking in any actions. the first is the civilian population, that is, the country, the second is actually the military. this

right humane principles, because, well, really every person, no matter how we have the right to throw there. yes, they are not limited to this. what is the actual character ? yof is positional fighting. this is a fortified area where you need great, uh, human strength. that is, it is necessary to send people to slaughter. we can't do this, so we, uh, slowly do it step by step in order to save our lives. they can, relatively speaking, gather some kind of fist and throw throw throw throw, so what? it needs it again not that there i don’t know seriously, there to go to the ninety-first. e grande in 1991. they can't do it. and here are some local successes , some locality, which will turn into some kind of symbol, some kind of symbol of the counter-offensive, which i am talking about. well, remember what they said they won't win, but they'll get extra. so you will use, of course , because it is a profitable injection in order

to see we supply them. yes, they are fighting well. here they are increasing they said that it does not work, but i already forgot. in what i first briefly about how they will break out the hands of ukraine because it is clear that success. uh, that's not my wording. this is what, yes, this is not even his wording, it beats and therefore, supposedly by the fall. they will begin to break out their hands so that they negotiate, with whom i don’t know, and who will break our hands, and we are ready for pergamum, he said, serious negotiations. i return i return the previous part. i don't understand this worldwide groan, the purpose of the task was said once confirmed 20 times. this is demilitarization and denotification in order to have full control on the territory of the former ukraine. aleksey sergeevich asks you to indicate addresses and appearances. yes, on the street there is such

a lady number four to the point where she does not pose a threat. armament 12 december - this also needs to be explained what a vlog is, are you a press secretary of the ministry of defense or search. you will explanations i tell you it's good for our people to hear simple explanations for this they say all the time. it's just that you don't want to negotiate ready to lead our countries. so come on, vladimir yes, i 'll put my five kopecks in short. let andrey vladimirovich certainly correct me, but i see this opportunity for him from somewhere far away. and here is my feeling from the fact that some kind of picture is taking shape, there is conditionally organizing a new warsaw pact. it's more the baltic states are a bad treaty. kulishcha.

yes, yes, yes, and which there is a feeling that they give the last thing to ukraine in general, that is, in this sense they are evanda, well, let's say estonia the planes of which it doesn't have everything, we just give it back. everything, as long as, uh, there, ukraine won, or at least did not lose, and so on. and there are french. there are germans. there are spaniards who look at what is happening much more carefully. and on the one hand, they have verbal support all the time from the other side. they don't make sudden movements. they are always waiting for someone to do it first. after that they may join. yes, they support ukraine, but at the same time, e is not in the vanguard, you draw a closer conclusion. and i think that further is the gap between the conditionally. here you support these places and always with berlin. they

are in the organization of the warsaw pact. let's georgievich let's yegor field dude and one and a half, probably, well, i'll try briefly, so let's start here. and here is andrey vadimchi of some sort. and where is tomorrow going to be a meeting between schulz and biden. there will be a meeting tomorrow. just once, see western europe really. uh. well, firstly, no one really should underestimate the amount of aid that is being substituted, they are, they will harm us, but, firstly, western europe really does not want to rake out the last of its weapons arsenals, because, well, everyone understands perfectly well that they are being bred so that there are macrons in there. this distant speaking does not understand that the americans are bred. they understand that if ukraine loses this war, this is what stonedekshir is talking about. this is possible because russia is waging a war of attrition. and then you are in russia, all in this type of war in russia, all the advantages, who is responsible for this, then to their voters and to the russians, who will also ask, and i'm not talking about the fact

that it will be bad with the integration process. inside there is where the weapon is also needed and a little faster. and ah, all the more they are not satisfied with the absolutely ukrainian behavior of the scholites, we say that regarding the deliveries , they really make the deliveries that are now being made for the ukrainian offensive in the fall in the summer and there the goals are obvious to the west - this is a chance. albeit small, but nevertheless inflict on russia a kind of shock defeat, which, multiplied by activity, various patriotic organizations and tendencies funded by them in russia, including those criticizing the authorities for no reason , can absolutely lead to serious internal destabilization in russia and possibly the readiness of the russian authorities. how do they think, how do they actively write their media to conclude some kind of agreement that will look like a soft surrender of ukraine uh to keep the victory not at the front, but the second image of other seas. ukraine, on the other hand, is another task for ukraine , which believes that it wins in any hand

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continue. and now we'll be back. in general, to yesterday's program. first, i want to thank you all again for the huge number of congratulations, there were 1,500, i think, comments. here you left yesterday in the telegram channel. of course i would like some uh quote now. i won't quote your poem, because, well, you have to hurry. i will stray from him respect for the author. that's about you and me. i won't say anything either, because, well , it's like yesterday. you said everything good about us, but here are our experts. they are also participants in the program, there are some things that i would pay attention to on my birthday. you turn the best, finally, fedorov and nadezhda, then you will not be equal to such proposals. it was here too nadezhda shilina is here. i will even name the prosperity of your program. i always watch her. say hello to me nadezhda from the village of kursk region. hope we greet you. eh, let's pass. ah. a very good program, more than one channel no longer discusses such sensitive topics and does not

call such motley experts, however, it means more often on the day of jam. let's go to all kinds of hopeful young timofeev and others, all a weeder for 7 years - this is a beautiful date. congratulations to the entire transmission team. meeting place, leading do not devil us they called it there. here's a compliment, quiet, quiet real thoughts there damn it. in a sense , real thinking men are excellent journalists who know how to manage the discussion, the intellectual level of the programs. in my opinion. one of the highest on all russian television. well, the last happy birthday to the producer for many years, releasing the editor of the mountain. happiness by the operator of the medal to the entire graduating staff with award diplomas, to some experts. there are questions about the adequacy, but for the most part it is interesting to watch informatively and gives food for thought. this is all one author krestina her name is saty. i don’t like zadolbal with my sons and the arrogant expression on the face of a hopeful, with all my

dislike for his position, khashchenko is a flower. more often i would wear a suit viktor zhezevch. it was stifling to put him in a corner to sytin, i summarize my favorite talk show grow big. in terms of the audience. be healthy. here's a big thank you. it seems to me that there is something to think about, including about our guests, all weeders are not ashamed. get ready all about the fingers in the top i have not seen a single one, who would really sit and say everything is fine, generally happy birthday, really this is so nice, it turns out. now the second point. why are we, uh, returning to yesterday's program, kirill valentin is to blame here, because he talked about it yesterday and uh, in general , the topic has developed. the point is that the human rights council. uh, i was just discussing the problem of russophobia. we now have a piece in the story. where how do you talk about it. speaks. you remember yesterday we discussed that, probably, it makes sense. russophobia is this

here is the concept to be prescribed by law, because then well, then you can take measures, then you can protect yourself by law , don’t look for it, some other similar articles, do they fall under them, well, yes, here, by the way, there is sports, because many believe that there is no need to invent anything, that this is an excessive measure. let's see the plot here. there is also the opinion of valery fadeev, if not kirill vyshinsky. well, then we will connect our other guests. more than two hours what is the need of the criminal code on tuesday, the head of the human rights council, valery fadeev, made a proposal to the russian federation to legislate the concept of russophobia and establish criminal responsibility for this, but there are two problems. first, you first need to determine what exactly is considered russophobia , the second what to do with russophobes who have fled abroad is now beyond the reach of justice valery fadeev himself believes that it is necessary to prepare a legal framework, no matter what the case

for the future. what is russophobia? we intuitively understand this, but the law somehow write it? how to qualify in legal language, how to qualify acts , our today's task is to try to formulate legal ones. what is russophobia and what articles of the criminal code can be used for this qualification? and if there is no such article. so it is necessary to introduce an additional article one of the first and the need to prescribe the concept of russophobia in the law at the end of last year, journalists and a member of the human rights council spoke. kirill lyshensky at the same time, vladimir putin instructed the council to define by may 1 russophobia, as well as to figure out whether a separate article is needed in the criminal code or if there are enough existing ones, and on the eve of kirill vyshinsky in our studio again raised this topic, there should be a definition of russophobia. these people are daniilka, ah, vakarchuk and others, yes

, who pour oil on the fire of this very russophobia, which is becoming mainstream in the west. here they should be defined as russophobes and they should have responsibility, according to the commissioner for human rights tatyana moskalkova concept russophobia. the legal field has already been formalized, but to determine the punishment for the manifestation of russophobia. she proposes to use a public or people's tribunal. we must stimulate a public international tribunal that will record not only torture, but also the facts of russophobia. the time will come when we will be able to punish teachers who put children out the door for their ideals. let's theorize a little now, and then we will analyze personal cases with a practical example. so cyrillic. you can still. here's to yourself personally you give the definition of what is here it will not be legal, because i'm not a lawyer. and if i formulate it, then, of course, i will immediately put myself under fire. uh, if not the critics, then at least they saw it that way from my point of view. russophobia is an excitement.

hatred is more unpleasant, and in the future also discrimination of e people on the principle of correlating them with the russian russian world by the russian language, belonging to a single community of russian culture, uh, pester. yes , but it turns out that you when articles on the inadmissibility of inciting hatred on national grounds, as it were, on all grounds take out the russians. yeah, and it turns out that no, it's wider. i'm ready to answer right away. come on, then, and the article is ethnic strife. it exists in the criminal law of almost any national country. well, of course, she is struggling with what is. well, let's say so in margenyse. yes, it means opposite. well, this is what is sometimes called everyday nationalism. uh-huh, so when she is at

the market they can send someone just because he does not look like his neighbor. well, and so on. we are now dealing with this, we are with you yesterday, by the way, about this spoke. i found this quote from the marovets year ago of the thirtieth year, yes, who in europe that they declare in the west that it is becoming mainstream, that is, it becomes an ideology, yes, an ideology, but by and large, which a stirs up hatred. b, which discriminates, and c , in fact, by and large, apparently already practiced. these are ideologies in the donbass for 8 years , that is, on the basis that no one doubts there, that on the basis that these people belong to the russian world, they were killed for eight years, because that they did not visit the pages of political ukrainians. and now this is a local practice. such a bloodthirsty, less bloodthirsty, but existing on a huge scale in europe, tatyana nikolaevna, during our meeting, said that only she recorded a fourfold increase in the number of appeals to her since february last

year, associated with the humiliation of the czech dignity of discrimination precisely for this principle, according to the principle of evolution with e russian you understand, then now before the interview that she does not agree entirely. and i just yes. here it also means the opinion of the prosecutor general's office. there they propose to consider russophobia as a manifestation of extremism and a commentary by the head of the senate committee on state building on constitutional legislation. i do not see the need to develop a legal definition of russophobia. in my opinion. this is redundant, as far as punishments are concerned, russophobia today falls under the criminal code. maybe qualified as extremism and inciting interethnic russia. and as you exclusively support, i really want to shake hands the prosecutor general's office, our prosecutor general, in this case, does not need to produce entities. i have already spoken about this more than once. we have an article of extremism.

we have an article on genocide, and genocide is called genocide because it is in a certain way connected with the fact that the population is destroyed or in some way persecuted on precisely this basis, therefore, when we talk about the concept of russophobia. we are all well aware that this and this concept is much broader than it can be described in legal practice, therefore let's be proved here it turns out 2.82 open the criminal code. we read article 28.2. that's it, we don't need anything else. it specifically says that the awakening of hatred towards certain groups of people. let the people of these groups be russians, if you have such a huge number. uh tools, as you say, and the prosecutor is not forgotten, and the head of the department of the prosecutor's office, uh. uh, yuri pavlovich khokhlov that's the one you're quoting, yes, and you want to shake his hand, what he said yesterday, but that there is an article about extremism. us this is quite enough. and i would like to see , in general, against the backdrop of this huge wave

of russophobia, at least a small array of cases with this composition, perhaps yes, wait, wait, the right to accept can be applied. please go to the court in lyu- no need to go to the website of the court. go type yourself, and the name. let's where, let me give you three names of russophobes. you will tell me there are cases of criminal concepts. no, these questions are the law of application. excuse me. this is not a question of legislation. this is a question, but directly to the topic of such a ring, what do us makes we talked to the ic talked to the prosecutor's office everyone says that yes is quite enough for when we ask we representatives. civil society loan lawyer issue. and where in general? this is the right application they say, well, how do not even say anything, where somewhere? yes, let them go to karaganda and apply this article. yes, it's like any bureych. let's go now. i'm

just another one. eh, i'll clarify. look , it means that there is such a performer maxim pokrovsky, which means that last year one of his songs was used. so it was excited extremism check. she ended up with nothing. that is, it ended with the fact that nothing was initiated and extremism was found. it means that they did not find extremism. no, they saw it. you have seen these clips there for generations or e do not look fundamentally. and i recommend that you just look to understand what it is. with pleasure go to them, look, do not swear. i'm listening hmm respected my comrades. uh, i remembered khoja nasreddin and you are right, and you are right, that is, today. we have all the necessary legal regulation in order to bring russophobes to justice, but for some reason this is not being brought to justice. what is cyril right about? for some reason this is not happening. and i

, too, was sitting and recalling the practice of just such an application of article 282, article 280, article 136 , discrediting administrative articles 25 3.1. i almost couldn't remember it. well, maybe now the practice will change, but then again, just now i was sitting and thinking what kirill was right about. in my opinion, russophobia can be legally reckoned and counted somewhere regulate by law. as one of the forms of fascism, it is in its manifestations. they are close yes to fascism. yes, just like in his time, remember, the general assembly, he voted. this is one form of fascism. here russophobia can also be one of the forms of fascism in this way. here is the term, actually cultural and political russophobia. he's here about as a form of fascism. i'm not with you, i don't know about this, but maybe, maybe you are more familiar with the practice of voting, where, in fact, so and so. a-ah started me stopped. sorry jews, as always, brought down our discussion that in this way we concepts of russophobia.

in general, it is enough, well, we can introduce the political culturological to the right. as one of the formulas. wait a hmm is it possible to somehow really make what is there work, maybe not. and this question is the responsible question for the deputies. why is this our practice? well, i just wanted to say. here is the cultural term russophobia, and there is a completely legal kindling of interethnic roses. he is legislation. there is practice, you understand, there is practice of the supreme court. that is, if we now reinvent the wheel, that's all. it will delay the application of this article in time , plus it will not have retroactive effect. and with those articles that we have. we can punish ursophobes here and now we are only for what they have already done, proving perhaps a captive wording in terms of effectiveness. these specific articles can start working right now today, because how are these articles about inciting ethnic hatred. this is when the russians are conditionally against someone and focusing on nationality. and here

, it seems to me, it seems to me, the concept of a person who hates russian is invested in the concept of a russophobe in general is wider than one nationality, a person who hates russian culture is also provided. do not know used to show. this is also the origin. that is, the legislator thought, when these articles were composed, so the legislator. well, i can say that finally, and the liberal democratic party has been talking about this for 33 years that we need this law and we all support it, our deputies are just now developing it. we are looking for moments with lawyers. how to apply it correctly? here is what they just said about 282. uh, you need to understand that the law on russophobia was very correctly said. this is an ideology. this is what is tearing the country apart from the inside. we are now preparing a law on the protection of our national bonds. it is very important that what you have said to you is very correct. here i will give you another

example, here everyone in the west, they say, there russian drinkers, they all drink. we can see now. we are for now. yes, we are there and not even in the top ten, yes, but this forms ideals here. it corrupts society. no, wait. and maybe, indeed, then somehow here is a good example. here is a russian drink. hmm, we somehow have to uh by law, forbid to say so, or we will show uh, first of all, to our ee to our society, but i don’t know the same statistics there. assembly, when they finish dealing with the zionists there, and it will be seen there that it turns out that the russian is not the best for us you need to pay attention to it. or you don't need to pay attention to it at all. it's just that you know us. uh , we're in anyway, uh, now we always offer statistics. we turn to it, but it does not work. and ah. this is a story. she won't work like that. unfortunately, because soft power will no longer work.

today, the law on the protection of the russian language has already been adopted. this is also very important. why because through the language they also begin to break us with foreign words. well, you see, well, look at an example of a simple cash-full. this is money under the table you can understand that this is a cash flow flowers, you understand, what a difference and we won’t be very strong. now, yes, dump everything in a heap. and in the same place, well, it’s just there, let’s say the rule of the road. there are a lot of things that are written that cannot be done. uh-huh, including it says in probably i don’t know what can not be translated or you read it. it was 100 years ago that you can't cross the street at a red light, right? and i get the impression that we, as it were, for this point, that we can’t cross the street. uh, street at a red light, we also create something for

each intersection to prescribe this separately. you are me, this is what i can't grasp. let's all be gone practice in relation to russophobia to a specific russophobe was. at least, stand-up comedian mirzalizade, who joked unsuccessfully, was recognized as such. he was not, he was not no russophobe. he lived here and earned money. well blurted out stupidity, something some kind of game. and this means that criminal practice was used against him, he was expelled from the country , he was fined, in my opinion, in general, it was the concrete reaction of the state against the background of a working phobia does not work, because he is not a citizen of russia, he could be punished like this. but if we just go further, and figure it out, and what if the jokes about whose? well, for example, what to do with dagestan jokes about each other people tell, so i was a witness to this. and what to do with the tatars and bashkirs

, whom, in which they also tease each other, i don’t understand, i don’t understand that i just listen, give me what is key for me, i definitely understand perfectly well what it is there will be another tool that can and will be used in repressive measures in our country. that's all. it will apply right here, we remember the history or it will be some history from 282 when it first appeared. lord, it just wasn't there. we discussed these crazy stories from there, when someone placed a trampled fascist flag there. and he is accused, as if fascism and people of fear received and set it all up. the fate of people on the fate of people who left, so to speak, received forty and then complained to the president and the president intervened saying the guys

offer. there is a concept of russophobia, which we all do not like. there are people who are somehow russophobes. yes , whether they are worthy of the criminal code, or maybe they are not worthy of the criminal code at all. it is necessary to work with them somehow differently, the only thing is that the nationality, which allowed, so to speak, e to distinguish itself from the crowd of peoples, is a jew, because the concept is anti-semitism. is it fixed, the concept of anti-semitism is not in the laws, and so to speak, there is a denial of the costa and so on and other, but even the very word anti-semitism. did it help to get rid of anti-semitism. yes of course, no of course. it is not, in spite of this established word that this concept exists. and how the concept can help only our actions are capable of protecting the russian language, cool here. we will visit russians , russian culture, there and so on. this is good, but absolutely unnecessary concepts will be introduced. why, if

we don’t have it. if in our country it will be applied crookedly, and in relation to other countries, advice will not be applied at all europe is higher. this is not so documents absolutely wrong idea, i say right away they did not take to rejoice. you understand, when you talk about that, it means that we will suddenly single out someone. this is wrong. uh, because we don't single out u russians by blood. here at birth, yes , a person was born with a certain nationality, and then he is formed as a person in the russian world. and over there in the west. now they treat russians with spanish passports as spanish ones and do not consider nationality at all. here you speak russian support russia, you will be punished for it. just the day before yesterday, i was talking to a female journalist, marina khakimova. she told her, yes, according to phenoti. it looks like a tatar woman, she can get something from six to e to the criminal code to infinity.

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russophobes do not understand anything. let's take a look at concrete examples of who is there and who is not. and who does not rule at all actor dmitry nazarov in early february, who left for israel with his wife, has repeatedly spoken out against the special operation and those who support it russians sang poems and songs about politics , which he considers satirical after that , nazarov gradually lost his roles in the cinema theater , artists are now constantly accused of pouring mud on russia and their people . exclusively, as a quote drunken rabble. the actor himself declares great love for the motherland and they say all his criticism is from heartache for the country and agent and actor arthur smolyaninov left russia last year and repeatedly criticized the country's authorities and the conduct of the special operation first by smolyaninov. openly supported ukraine in interview. now he reads anti-russian satirical poems, then in the image of lassie ukrainka or napoleon three corners with the letter z , the author of sarcastic works, the poet and also

a foreigner dmitry bykov, another example is a musician and agent yuri shevchuk for a long time, speaking very opposition to the authorities from the country. at the same time, he did not leave the musician last week and on agent published a new song homeland come home. there he called russia a crazy drug addict, participating not in his own war and moving towards destruction in the past. during the year, during a concert in his hometown, the soloist of ddt already spoke negatively about russia's actions on for which he got the case and the fine for discrediting the russian armed forces , the lawyers then insisted that shevchuk loves the country. it’s just that he is a pacifist and opposes all warriors nikolai igorievich, which of the above are examples of russophobia, and what is not, and what about pacifism and satire? well , look, if let's take yuri shevchuk yuri shevchuk wrote the song don't shoot in 1980, when many of those, uh, who are now

seeking to legislate russophobia did not speaking of kirill, he is clearly older than the eighties, he has not even been born yet, and that, because such a position of shevchuk , because he went to war in the chechen war , spoke to them, because he is for the fact that people do not shot at each other, donetsk why did he go? no, because he understands that he, including me, needs to be asked this way. i think he understands that this is a significant degree of ours. and what is the blood shed there? yes, because they could not stop all of them , all those present could not stop it and not allow. now, if a person is a pacifist, just like that, here is a good, well done, pacifist. he must have somehow responded to the alley of angels in donetsk. excuse me for saying these platitudes, but because there are no such alleys in kiev, zhytomyr, lviv, but in donetsk there is, you had to come there and sing for local residents, which he

responds with what he now calls. stop shooting now. that's what you do, and in fact, it seems to me that the persuasiveness of a child whose today he was wounded in the bryansk region, yuri ivanovich somehow defended himself with his creativity , he sang there, dear from ukraine and we defended him all those present no, that's it, therefore, if we return to your questions again, understand? a hobby is a position that it is not a virus, but an expression of his love for the russian and the desire to make it better. and here they are trying, because in my opinion, it is convincing. well, let's show us that the criminal code has every opportunity for a person not to repeat, who calls to do something against the russian punishes. how do you then distinguish a person who, in your opinion, is a lawyer

- shevchuk in your coordinate system is a person who is a pacifist for everything good. yes, how do you distinguish him from another person. on the other hand, we have the artist nazarov , to be honest, i can’t say, i can say, i’m not powerful. raz-i'm not talking about a specific example. it's just that i'm very easy to breed. if a person says that russian people are bad. there you need to shoot something else like that, then is, if he says that it is bad for a doctor to a doctor, and not to the criminal code. and if he says that it is necessary to shoot to kill, this is the criminal code, in my opinion, it is easy to distinguish any normal person, and if a person it is the criminal code a second, so nikolayevich’s exprom representative of the apple in the studio failed, some punishment appeared a trip to the doctor, what is this strange thing? i want

to say that first the patient must be treated. well, the specificity is correct in a situation where you only call on one side do not shoot you are always born in our country in russophobia, everyone who spoke under false such beautiful clothes, everyone went into russophobia all this, because a real pacifist, he must come to moscow to say, do not shoot after that, he must go to kiev and say something there same thing there, yeah, they don't do that. they only call us, don't shoot. here they make a good one. well, an example to attract today in the bryansk region is the language directly that will offer us representatives of apples. tell me, don't shoot, don't shoot the terrorists, because it's easy. lie nicholas participated. well, because you have no interest. we need everyone to know that you are a polish apple and so a polish polish. you just slandered already, you already understand, you just covered everything with lies, so dear

petersburgers. yes, do not piss in our, so to speak, the main discussion, yes, and so, russophobia and inciting ethnic hatred. for all their similarities. this is not the same thing why i explain here, i try to explain. let's interrupt, please, uh, hate speech. this is when you call to hate. and russophobia, when you you already hate everything russian, everything is russian culture and you carry this hatred, you don’t call for russia like this, it can be russian to kill, but you carry terrible hatred. wait while i carry it. if i don't call for anything. i owe it as well. here, please, express alcoholics like that. and alas , they didn’t call for something, but what are you, you say this every day in all your programs, books, television and so on. that's what you know about the example of your

dispute with nikolai but there are people who in our studio from program to program, for example, they talk about their hatred of the liberals or, for example, their hatred of the united states, their rulers and everything connected with them does not work, that these people are provocateurs? i'm just trying from the word. here russia move aside to put something else does not work. so, when we hate what is important for us for our hearts, and our country is important for our hearts, then it’s bad if they insult, humiliate and we see all sorts of hate. excuse that it turns out it is possible strange, the problem turns out. not love it's just a problem there. the united states and their penal code is strange to hate within our country. sorry, it will be called a criminal fight against russophobia,

because russophobia is much broader than inciting ethnic hatred. it is now that self-doubt will delight, if the liberals are our russian people, and you are calling to fight them, is there russophobia here? i do not call to fight liberals. i urge to supplement the existing things with a legal instrument, because look here, including russophobes abroad, the article of inciting ethnic hatred cannot be applied to the barrel. why because he's an old fascist? look, we cannot reach him by our law. let's alexey gennadievich yes, look at one phrase. you see, the barrel incited ethnic hatred, nothing at all. what is recognized as a russophobe according to the article difference. why excuse me

, you can invent the most in relation to the old grandfather, look, in fact, it's curious. here is the grandfather of a geologist who took place between the two nicholas from st. petersburg is a clear evidence of this, here is the position of nikolai viktorovich that the term russophobia is not actually needed? why because political opponents will use it as a label. and this is a real tool, something that we have been against for a long time now for 1 second, one that we have been opposing for a long time. this is a story, a post of truth, when reflection is replaced by reflexes, we put a stamp, a label, and immediately this is a bad person. and this is so to speak in the framework of the discussion. we're just not so at it for fun. sometimes just like that it means that in the discussion of two intelligent people - it will remain, so to speak, within the framework of the dispute a you a means in the brains. uh, well, the radical part of the turbo patriots is no, uh , the ability to write data this will be a signal for action. he is completely russophobe

, i say it again, then all the usa is already writing. well, let's petersburg residents, and where is the poem by konstantin simonov ? it's just hard written. how many times i saw him so many times and kill him. this is what, this is it directed the actions of our war. no. uh-huh . we have special operations. i'm not about it i, well as in what year was the second to protect the state and the interests of the people, if they protect the state, the people are interested, then these laws are correct, therefore, in this story today, the united states is our enemy. we are forced to allow very incorrect expressions in relations. this is fine. if i'm just now the line of war is not at hand. do you understand? timothy phobia we need to stop. then perevalevich, after a pause, this murder

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, such a song is called a scandalous song, and a scandalous one, because shnurov was accused of russophobia. we are very much like superficial. all in all ran through the work of sergei shnurov to show you that he was before. in general, he recorded songs that were not very different from this one, he made such statements before, and there he acted in a way that is not very different from what has now led to a scandal. it is not clear then why, it means that it was impossible before, now it is impossible, or is it also possible for him now? well, let's see. in the new clip, the russian leader of the group, sergei shnurov, explains the patriot and the russian world - this is when our man drinks vodka without a snack with school years, the audience was angered by such a definition in the comments they write that shnurov, in a quote from a witty tramp poet , turned into a stinking russophobia waving at old people. however, the leningrad group

did not hesitate to joke about the vices of compatriots and the public accepted such hits with a bang, not seeing anything shameful in them, moreover, shnurov himself never tried to bask in the depths of the russian people. above the theme of patriotism, shnurov also jokes not for the first time in 2014 on the wave of a patriotic upsurge. after reunification with the crimea, he released a frank mocking song of a patriot got from shnurov and the domestic auto industry and public utilities with officials. and the song for how much do the bells ring, written in the conversations of the white-tape protests of the twelfth year , ridiculed the then political situation, but its performance last september at

a holiday in moscow dedicated to the city day caused a mixed reaction. the singer's fans said that such performances are now inappropriate dreamed, however , the rock musician's patient work also applies to the highest level of 2020, at the big presidential press conference, shnurov asked vladimir putin several provocative questions on behalf of the channel. rtvi and from myself personally as a simple russian person to describe this life without using profanity. i want to thank you for not using it now. how do you do it? sometimes, as i understand it, from the stage to the mass audience. uh, but before that , thank you very much for today's our hmm form of communication. well, here's what happens. just maybe we are now somehow with us aggravated reactions and pay attention to those

things that used to be, well, only yuri mikhailovich luzhkov, god rest his soul. here always struggled with a cord. uh, it's very hard to rate works of art. uh, for this, if we are talking about, but if there is russophobia in a work of art now a second. well, i mean, it's being assessed in a forensic examination. if a case is initiated under certain articles, since today we do not have the legal qualification of russophobia, then this is all for that's just outside of level of emotional evaluations tell me in the right application. i don't tell stories. i asked you. i asked you to tell me the cases initiated during the year related to russophobia. take from one side bells a. another bastrykin. so put it in front of you. and ask tell me please, dear comrades. and what have you done to ensure that our article on

extremism works normally? why don't they excite? why are these examinations not carried out? we do not need a separate article parophobia. take it easy to talk with lawyers. do you know why? because you breathe on the criminal code, like on a chinese vase, and this criminal code has only recently changed several times, because only in the fourteenth. i 'm right, i have only a second of this degree, only in the fourteenth year appeared to become. yes, and the prohibition of propaganda of nazism, only last year a criminal article appeared on the failure to fulfill state defense and sabotage activities. you consider the criminal code in ten volumes - this is normal. no, i believe that if life changes and the criminal code appears and the system appears. how did you yourself agree with me an ideological phenomenon? you see, when we realized how serious the propaganda of nazism in our country, which defeated this nazism, an article appeared, so

now wait a minute of the criminal code, we will introduce a separate article. i'm not in a relationship. again, in a relationship. wait. now, if now the time has changed, does it mean that you need to take mr. shnurov by the button to look for you dear, what did you mean songs there loves our people. this time has now changed or it is not necessary to do this, because this is a creative work. this can be done by his fans, if they are and now his songs are not relevant. i have a look at the purchase, for example, a good example. yesterday there was a person in the plot who had, in the old playlist , the story with verka serduchka yes, he was pointed out to this, what he did after this person. he publicly apologized. after that, he collected a package and went to the donbass. well, here, here is public opinion that can influence you. i don’t know how susceptible mr. shnurov is to such public

opinion and how public opinion in general is ready to go and present these claims to him. this needs to be addressed to his fans. i am not one of them, but i understand for sure that the article is russophobia. she is connected with the lord she is connected with a huge number of politicians in the west of officials who demeans the dignity of a huge number of people living. there it is associated with those who, within the framework of this ideology, sooner or later said so. we colleagues will definitely encroach on the whole country on statehood in your application and with an artist on sharov, for example , who we do not like at all and with a cord artist, who our great sympathies are possible, can count, but will not be applied correctly. why am i trying to understand your line? come on, i want another one. i want to determine that in the criminal code in civil society. i don't personally understand if it was my privilege, yes, or my inner urge is one

thing, but i get a huge amount of writing abroad. i told you that molkovo four times this number of appeals has grown these people. just say you will do something. let us feel at least somehow protected. yes, punish these people who publicly humiliate us, who are deficient and i understand that you simply do not need to pay attention to you. qualify this legal field russophobia evolution qualified. anya that is, you are the first russophobe in this country that exists and needs to be supported here. i know and that's how to say within your own big family there, yes, uh i met there abroad in relation to his relatives. there is real russophobia. yes, in the real manifestation of the boy. they just got bullied at school and so on, but let's create a tool for advocacy. let the country really help them not with words and laws that will not

work. let's first decide on what we should do at home. yes perishing, then concerns. how many 30 seconds dmitry vladimirovich phrase about the people. well, i won't reproduce it. in my opinion. it's completely under the article. i don't understand why things aren't punished like that and so on people because people feel offended fucking quiet. i, as it will be, the people feel offended by such phrases. i think sisters shouldn't say that. and let the legislator, as he wants me to from the year 70,000, which is everything everything everything everything everything, we will now sum up. not a single guy could pass by her magnificent breasts and all the girls envied her.

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for this wording to be clear and legally verified so nikolaidovich, fear and negative attitudes towards russia towards russians cannot be overcome formation the image of our country with a huge mask and more teeth, so that blood drips, and you can bring up a different attitude towards our country through the great russian culture. and believe me, it’s not leps at all. look at it already, it’s tastes, we are talking about the right to the legal qualification of such a phenomenon, which has turned, in fact, into the mainstream in the west and into ideology. that is, he fights with us. including russophobia, not only khaims, all the rest of the panthers there, everything but this, so we must create an instrument of counteraction , a legal instrument. if we live in a legal country, a legal state. i understood and a certain vladimir vladimirovich is unconditionally needed and the law and punishment are needed, and first of all, so that in the west they understand that we do not just respond with words. and can we

show concrete actions to those who kindle our role and what will happen to them? uh , in this case, what concerns others is, and those who are inside the country, they under such a law, with the right, uh, balanced wording, will understand what songs to sing? where to sing them and how to discuss them? well , although leps has surfaced here, this happens when, following the results of the program, i have some rationalization proposal. here, i 'm listening to you all poured out, and a large number of articles already existing in the criminal code. i would suggest. this is my personal proposal that the russophobia article should apply only to citizens of foreign countries in relation to our citizens. we have our criminal code, which we can deal with as we need to. ah, well, we'll discuss that later. i now put my anecdote. and let's go like home no longer cows. this is now, these stars, these so-called stars generally receive

damn it. it's just a disgrace, this cord , that's how much he received in soviet times for such a concert of his. yes, too, to hell with 10 years, probably, it was a meeting place that cannot be changed. we meet with you from 14:00 on weekdays on ntv, goodbye. vladimir putin regarded as a terrorist attack a sortie by ukrainian saboteurs in a border village in the bryansk region, an attempt to agree on a final declaration at the ministerial meeting.