[000:00:00;00] editors are in touch around the clock, well, i'm march sedikov thank you for your attention and see you on ntv today in our program the scandal with the american drone near the crimea in which case washington will send its troops near kiev, we will not leave stone upon stone and sanctions pressure and

russia's partners under western requirements. hello , this is the meeting place on ntv, the place where everything is becomes clear? i'm andrey norkin. my colleague is ivan trushkin. we are working live from the hot news from the latest, we can say that again apparently strikes are being made on infrastructural facilities ukrainian reports that explosions were heard in kharkov and in kherson, our enemy responds the way he does, but he loves and knows how we are hitting infrastructure facilities and trying to hit living people. the day before , there was a powerful explosion in melitopol. it's obvious what it is? well, something very close to a terrorist attack, footage. you are now you will see unknown people planted explosives in the car, and an improvised explosive device , the car allegedly belonged to the owner of the local transport company ivan tkach, two people were injured, and both of them

were hospitalized, but the main event hmm happened the day before in the sky over the black sea announcement. our colleague from the seabes tv company, who said that a russian fighter jet broke the propeller of an american drone. now, if you read the internet, then it turns out that not only broke the propeller, but also sorry pissed on kerosene. and again, i'm sorry, but you can't erase the words from the song. this is a direct quote very, by the way, everyone liked it. and this generally has some kind of historical experience, we will show all this. today, in short, i flew over the black sea, and the american drone is such a good reaper, yes, yes, that can do a lot of things. well, as i understand it, the ministry of defense flew into our airspace, at least our messages. so we believe him. and how not to believe we do not. uh some some need

our planes flew hmm fighters. well , then, in general, it all ended with the fact that the drones fell, too, there was a wonderful photo two photos of putin standing from the phone. and he says, where did you get the drying, well , fighters in the forest, and in the second photo , here is the famous frame where petrov and bashirov are sitting, these people are talking like that. well, why not leave the house at all now, and the most interesting thing in this whole story is that but my colleagues and i still have no explanation that the noise was raised precisely by the american side. actually our e, clarification statements followed much later by the americans. well, there something grandiose began to happen due to the fact that, uh, this drone was there, it was like that. i read that the americans shot him down themselves. yes. so for some reason they took measures to ensure that he did not get the enemy something there. well, he still got it, everyone is already telling me that let's all want

to see the plot. what was with the kerosene. i understand this is the fun part. well, let's see, now we will discuss. the first to report the incident off the coast of crimea on tuesday in the evening, the european command of the us army, according to his version, the russian su-27 fighter, sent to intercept the american drone mq9 reaper showed a cartoon about how it all happened, supposedly two of our interceptors circled around the drone and dropped fuel on it. is it true. draw a reaper. for some reason , with guided bombs, a russian plane flew up from behind and began dumping fuel officials. the us believes that he wanted to get close to the bottom so that he would fly into a cloud of fuel, but he began to climb too early, thereby hitting the propeller, which was located at the back of the drone edition. new york times. weiss writes to sources that he did not bring

intelligence beyond the crimea, being 120 km from the peninsula. the russians intercepted him at an altitude of about 8 km. and the episode claims the newspaper stunned the us military, who flew a drone from the ramstein base in germany , about the incident. joe biden was immediately laid down. the pentagon accused our pilots of environmental and safety recklessness and unprofessionalism, the press secretary of the department. couldn't answer the question. was the reaper armed, regarding the mq-9 tasks. he was engaged in reconnaissance. this device has been flying over the black sea for some time. this is an important international water route, so we regularly monitor this area. did this drone bring a weapon? i will not go into the specifics of this particular aircraft, since you know that the mq9 is capable of carrying weapons, i repeat. he was engaged in reconnaissance of our recruits. reported that the american drone. he flew with transponders turned off and violated

russian airspace for six fighters did not use weapons the drone itself lost control for harsh manners. and some resources fell into the water, they write that the black sea fleet had already raised the wreckage of the drone and they were not 120 km from crimea, while at the same time, after the incident, the state department called the russian ambassador anatoly antonov for a conversation , the diplomat himself called the us actions intentional provocation, a this device flew with transponders turned off, and it entered the zone, a, which was determined that this was a zone of a special military operation through international channels. and we warned russia all about it. i think this is a real provocation. it provoked us by some specific action. uh, after which it would be possible to blame e russia of the russian military in any non-professional. so here are the technical nuances of how this reaper ceased to exist. we

will discuss this a little later. but now let's. that's it that vanya said that why the americans, how to say they got themselves started, yes, gel, you, as it were, simply because it is a very, expensive car. well, there is under 60 million 60 million. there is a new copy. and this machine is crammed with, in general , equipment that is of great interest. both for us and for the iranians that we share information on the american ones. and as if the object was found precisely in ukraine by the chinese, who will fly there on a visit , the americans needed a comrade then, on the contrary, somehow try to notice all this. yes, no, wait a second. it was all done in public , and somehow it freezes. that's all. this is already obviously clear and the americans. apparently , we did not expect at all that we did so. they believed that there were some general agreed rules when we do not touch their planes that fly near us. and our bombers had the opportunity to notice this simply not to inform the european command of the american army

about this incident. then we would call moscow and so on. what has been done is done defiantly on our part. this moscow's defiant crossing of some red lines set by washington, because they are crossed by the americans with the supply of weapons to ukraine in support of the kiev regime. this is a continuation of the line that was launched by vladimir putin, and in his recent address, raising rates , starting with the suspension of russia's activities in the cis and continuing for now, and including this , the red lines of their intersection do not agree , or just something else happened extraordinary, because if you look at the history of the soviet-american relationship on this. yes , and incidents are almost the norm, you understand, especially since both sides, as it were, directly stated that if we are now cabins in what we draw, red lines and allow. e go through them.

here i can remember something similar, this is when there was an attempt. e these crush him. remember the story, yes, with these ukrainian boats, on which we then rammed it as long as it was british, wait. you are not talking about the british one, but it is said about the red line. no, we're talking about a situation that's happening with gray zone, because on the one hand, we all understand very well that throughout this year, these reapers, not only they , including the awaxes, were also engaged in intelligence in the interests of the armed forces of ukraine of the combined information to ensure military operations against russian troops . and how to what extent can this be tolerated and what can we allow? it's so very so so very thin. why are americans such a hype? well , because this is a precedent, because for the first time in a year they flew before in a year, he i fell, as if i as i understand it, but this is a fairly clear explanation. at the same time, if you look at the statement of the american stand,

it is quite clearly stated that no one will take any drastic actions because of this, because this is just right. uh, if say surpluses of such actions, well lost the drone. yes, next time today as reported here. uh, these three drones planned by the reaper, their sorties were suspended because they think how now they fly too close. yes, it's leaving. here's to history. we do it then that there have already been incidents of this kind, for example, with, uh, the fleet of 2021 will be replaced by the british stevender, which entered. uh, in the territorial waters of russia near the crimea in britain does not recognize there was no loss of the loss of some kind of military facility. here the united states has the loss of a military facility, which is quite expensive. yes , just an object, that is, a military object that was destroyed, no one was hurt. and why did the americans raise this? because this is another reason. they are a reason to expose

russia, uh, they are such an aggressor, like at home this, but they highlight it, they say it, that this is such an unprovoked attack by russia on an american drone. they don't say he's there, that is, yes, they admit that he's doing intelligence, but they think it's an international resource with drone missiles, so they're highlighting their target that way. show that russia is to blame and the united states is not to blame, that the united states is the victims of the incident, yes, sixty kilometers from russian territory, and hell knows what a thousand kilometers from the american you know on the border of estonia to russia but at the same time the united states says that america threatens let me add a few words, because i think that not all of our viewers. as well savvy as our experts and know what this mc 9 reaper reaper is famous for. his wife is, as the americans themselves say, one of the most modern drones. in service, it quietly costs from

30 to 60 million dollars, depending on what equipment to hang on it and to hang that it can really be used for reconnaissance, but it can be used to attack with rocket strikes or drop bombs with the help of such a drone. in 2020 , an iranian general was killed. qasem soleimani also mq9 can take on board equipment for laser illumination of the targets of the so-called planning bombs, which, of course, makes it a drone used to attack, too . andrey vladimirovich hmm why are they so united? well, look. i'm just imagining, again, a mirror situation is worth some of our ship or 150 miles of sea from the city of new york and launches similar drone nothing will happen absolutely sure if it flies towards new york city, even if it flies, because the situation here is really. actually very simple after all the drone was destroyed outside. russian airspace, but in the area, as ambassador antonov rightly noted, designated as the area where he conducts a special military

operation. we have designated this as no one recognizes this in the zone as their special operation, and so on. the only thing is that civilian ships do not go into the air this zone, by designating this zone you are telling all your e colleagues that you cannot take any action in this zone. you can mean anything, but that's a problem. wait, here is a simple example for you . you are walking through a suburban village, and there is a sign on the fence. be aware of dogs. you don't know if the dog is angry or not, what's in the head of these owners, but, in principle, you were warned, and therefore, if you try to climb over the fence. and maybe it's called a dog that bites, then you will even be to blame so here we are, wait, correct comparison. this is an absolutely correct comparison. from the point of view of the americans, we can look like. anyone to do what we want, we said guys.

you don’t have to fly here, so i say it exists again, if then russia had to say that for us there is no international law, that we don’t care about international law, that there is airspace available to everyone a special military operation should worry about your safety of the court please dog 129 is called your neighbor. he says that he is conducting a special military operation on your territory and his angry dog. this is his territory viktorovich this is russian territory. russia can say that it is conducting a special military operation on the territory of anyone leaving, refusing this territory , the black sea airspace excluding territorial waters, and so on, open to a free next step. let's do it with you won't come, somehow next time step reaper

will fly, accompanied by two american fighters, and it is directly logical that the russian fighter will try to repeat the maneuver. the russian fighter will be shot down. this is how you jump. you see, let's remember a small episode with flying balloons, which have been heroic for several days. yes, colleagues, well , why did america raise such a fuss, because on the one hand it was really unexpected for them. on the other hand, we understand the military said, finally, who is in the special military operation zone, what have they finally begun? why because so the group, which consists of these uavs, which consists of a low-orbit, satellite, group, they really bring, we have a lot of problems and the next step for russia, i think so, and america understands this will be the destruction of this low-orbit group satellites that give intelligence to the ukrainians and

who use it against us realizing that the americans made such a fuss in order to anticipate our event to destroy them. e. is this your version of maxim anatolyevich or do you have any? quiet, quiet, quiet, or do you have some insider information regarding the conversation with people who are waiting for need. uh, when they receive instructions on these actions, then the americans will receive instructions from our satellite in response. she listens to them less. well, firstly, we have, firstly, fewer satellites. that's for sure. much much less unconditional to us periodically we immediately we immediately moved on. uh, here's to the same for always somehow goes in this direction. can we take some decisive action, because in response to us more decisive action will come. we have to talk about it , there is no need to be afraid of anyone. i think that now there will be an offensive by our armed forces, and in order for it to be more successful, it is necessary. uh,

just gouge out your eyes. well, let's just say to our enemy, so that i don't understand anything at all what's going on and don't use the data that they get satellites were to shoot down, which give a reaction twice a week and we'll shoot them down more about the reaction, we have our western kerosene who are not our comrades. there we honored today the western press is not only the american one, there is one word used everywhere, like a piggy bank, like tension. come on, we give you headlines or something close to headlines and that's good. the incident immediately escalated tensions between the white house and the kremlin. this is the first known physical contact between the united states and the russian federation since the start of a special operation in ukraine, the incident with an unmanned aerial vehicle risks increasing tensions between washington and moscow. by sea, will certainly cause a new surge of tension in relations between moscow and

washington. whose relations were almost completely broken due to the start of a special military operation by president vladimir putin in ukraine a year ago nikolayevich here you told us the sequence of the program into the program that from the general escalation of tension can lead to situations where one thing like this and a snowball will fall, and we will stand there at the threshold, the third. e the third world war. how would you suggest in this situation? something flies to your borders, equipped with missiles, something that can play the role of a bomber from the american side. we should probably just watch. as if it were just not raising the tension, let it fly closer. and suddenly unfold so it is necessary to act so everything works. well , see the question. on the one hand important on the other hand. one can look at the fact that the events that we are now talking about are not at all isolated. uh, a few days ago pulkovo airport was closed in st. petersburg yesterday. uh, tests in the dutch area 200 km.

from st. petersburg, somehow, too, the launch. and, that is, there were no launches, they just flew up there. well, yes, yes, but georgievich either then you have to respond to everything in all such cases. eh, unknown. here is a similar situation and understand that at some point it can really be toned and lead to a reaction precisely in the case when the relationship is already in close proximity. this, apparently, is also in the immediate 200 km. petersburg, of course, he was no longer part of ours. i understand correctly that you they called on this us strategic bomber to shoot down, which was two hundred kilometers away from five years . we can't even say what happened, to be honest, yesterday something extraordinary, something extraordinary,

because it happened or not, maybe later. now they told you that we seem to be slowing down and not taking any action, judging by last night statements and today’s that nothing will happen after this incident, that is, in order for the next case, we will now stop flights on their part, but this is still no, i mean some kind of active not passive actions in relation to. eh, about the enemy. that is, the further. this will continue. the further everything will say to want to conduct military operations to fight, that the further everything will be , the more such cases will be in the black sea, a difficult situation. look at the map. that's even written, romania i look at the queen i look at the map and do not see the united states bordering the black sea. so it turns out they never said that this is a very important route. yes, this is indeed a few points. well, first of all, three things. i

have a very short first point, i would not, although a good example is with a strategic bomber, which, apparently , practiced a cruise missile strike, st. petersburg. yes, i remember the drone here. let's remember other drones. first, indeed, how truth-bearer. this is a routine to the black sea constantly along the crimea. by the way, before the start of the special operation, they constantly circled the donbass. uh, strategic drones are not really reaper, but globall hog without interruption. we let's remember one more incident when hmm officially attacked the ships in the raid with naval drones. they seemed to be ukrainian, but this also cannot deceive anyone, therefore, in the case of this drone. it is likely that this could have been an attack that was just a test of our air defense defense and so on. i i think i am convinced that in general it is possible and necessary to destroy all any unmanned vehicles in the black sea, no one will suffer pilots. no, as in the case of the defender. the crew will not die there. but. we have significantly reduced our own losses. the second point about international law andrey vladimirovich what the hell is international law? where do you

see it, anyway? on what basis are the turks now in syria, the americans on the basis of what articles of international law, and the invasion of yugoslavia on what rule was it based, or are you a cancer of the second, there is no international law and the right of the strong is absolutely one right of the strong, and international law is for the weak. and now we have testing. we are weak, and that's how antonov will justify himself. well, it's true. we make excuses, because the turn signal, because i'm talking here, please, with what was happening in the southwest, you don't have to make rules now for the whole world. enter, the gateway is now the whole world. i've taken yugoslavia and killed. let's not mean that the gate. no , you don't know, i would agree with you all at once, please. yut where? you? damn you already deal. i did not agree, too, it is necessary to shoot down everywhere. i believe that yes, any drones are correct. on the black sea , it is necessary to shoot down ours with any black one. in any

water area. do you know where our third question is the third question. why did the americans need the americans? this is necessary precisely in order to, on the one hand, provoke an increase in tension to administer russia and, on the other hand, to test it. as far as we really are. here are roughly speaking terpily. if this is the language we speak here in the gateway, everything else, we will be on it answer or not. yes, that's right, and satellites also need to be shot down. we have tools for warming up, warming up the yanosphere. they hit, they go blind, and so on, but this is a transition to a certain escalation of major escalations. well, excuse me here, we are waiting for a counteroffensive. we expect mass casualties on both sides. you, we should think about this now, and not about what they say, we must comply with international law in the black sea. and if the south stream is attacked, the gas that goes to turkey if it forces the straits, what will you do then? so your suggestions about in general, wait, we need to ensure that there are no such incidents at all and any drones should be shot down then those facts that we will now translate in the plot, well, almost all of them except for this

strategic bomber entering petersburg then those facts were not about the plot already. now we will show bogdan and then later, if we don’t shoot down anyone, one of these days, the flight radar service for monitoring aircraft. he reported that last saturday a us air force boeing b-52 stratofortees strategic bomber capable of carrying a nuclear according to the same flight radar, the bomber flew out of poland, flew over the baltic states, turned over the island of gogland in the baltic sea and then headed towards britain western press. of particular doubt, they note that the pilot was practicing training missile launches in st. petersburg, and the day before, in the belgorod region, air defense systems again shot down a drone, the governor of the gorkov region, saying that fragments of the drone fell on the roof of the garage of one of the private houses fortunately. no one was hurt and

there was information in the press about the fall of the drone. in the tula region, according to the mesh telegram channel, the fallen drone flew towards the bogdan hydroelectric power station agrees this phrase, which andrey vladimirovich did not have time to forecast, if there are again trippers under it by a fighter, as soon as he sees that the fighters have risen in response, this ripper will turn around with the fighters and will go back. i can bet you on this for a bottle of brandy anything else now reaction, which is our partners in quotation marks a man who practices martial arts has recently discovered his scandinavian roots. everything is a twist. good thing it's not on an island. tell me. see the rule here. the collar does not work yet, while it somehow does not work paradoxically. now i will argue with everyone, but so far international law is in force. let me remind you that the official position of our ministry of defense is that we did not shoot down. we did not apply the social positions of our ministry of defense we flew and flew, but he fell hmm well, about this is how it looks. she drowned. well, that is , he fell, and here we just had planes

flying nearby. for the time being, the whores of international law are imitating their drone. this ripper, he flew and just conducted reconnaissance of important sea routes. he did not conduct reconnaissance in the crimea how they move from our armed forces, but behind the jambs they simply flew around this drone, that is, everyone still imitates compliance between the people imitates. exactly what is it imitating? and everyone understands everything perfectly, but, in fact, it’s not yet possible to find fault easier. why are we accused of being our planes? a dangerous maneuver is probably true, but there was no attack, as such, that is, it is impossible to prove it, therefore, while valka is shaky, but international law acts and brandishes a saber. now we are all yours updated international law does not apply the rule of gateways, but then that's all, how to say the goods are camouflaged, wait, because of what you said, for now, but it will not be endless. yes,

of course, yes, and then there will be some. eh, i remind you that when the turks were knocking down our dryer. eh, then, too, it was formally possible to find fault. but it was already a surge. after that, a hot rather active conflict began. yes, there in general, such signs, then wrong. well, of course, that there, it seems, can happen here, but already without , uh, admitting that you were wrong. here is the question. you can ask let's in case you we pick up these debris, we decipher the data that is there and, uh, this is the aircraft he investigated. not the seabed, but he really filmed the deployment of our armed forces in the crimea there, well, in kherson against missiles or directed missiles further, what, what should we do according to your look. this is normal. is it no one can. there is equipment for guidance of these missiles, which were given to ukraine. that is another story. this is essentially participation on one side. they just attacked the americans.

let vladimirovich, i will answer you americans. naturally, they will. this deny our perfectly understand. what kind of intelligence he collects is perfectly understood exactly, so the drying flew to him. uh, that's why it's here again, no one officially recognizes anything, but everything is obvious to everyone. that's all, therefore , we continue to imitate the legs. yes, everyone understands perfectly well that the gates are already working correctly, but so far, for the sake of decency , it is warming itself with a fig leaf of international law. well, once again, this means that the collar rule works. disagree about our actions. i have spoken many times. uh, i’ve been saying for a long time that we need to play erdogan, what we need to be able to do, and convince our western partners that we are ready to excavation, and to maximum speed, that we are ready to raise the stakes. if you look again over the past weeks, we

have been doing exactly this, no, now we did it the year before last, and then since the spring of last year. e gestures, good will began to be done in erdogan. we need to convince the west to the end that we are ready to seek, we are doing everything well. now first, we will postpone it, then it will be said by daggers or a bunker with so-called nato advisers and no one really stinks, but then if we admit that there are nato advisers - this is participation in the conflict, on their part. this is the contract does not turn, please, today, please, we only know where we flew, one all there are four more left we don’t know where we flew, in general. after all, no one tells. well, of course, andrey vladimirovich you know, of course. here, and now we put the reaper. well, he lay down himself, of course he didn’t. well, relieved. he himself fell, and then there will probably be some new actions on our part, and they are categorically disadvantageous for the americans. i absolutely disagree

that the americans intend well? now you are accumulating everything for the next block. well, wait now. let's andrey nikolayevich then the task of the collar rule. here we went too far about the term destroy, it was not destroyed. there are a lot of tricks that can create a problem for a flying opponent without the use of weapons. and when you, in principle, make special claims to him, you can’t even use these methods. they are known, both ours and the other side. and if someone in this situation did not cope, then this is the problem of the one who did not cope. and if your uh, the drone was not ready in such a situation and collapsed, but this operator is different in fact, which now worries the americans much more, unofficially stated. here, the official does not say, so, if there were real live bombs on the suspension. this is really an escalation, if he was not just engaged in hanging, the end of the combat load, this is an incident. this is for the americans. a very serious problem, so now not officially through the media. they say no. no, nothing hung there, they are ready to publish

pictures. well after that we'll see if that's the one to worry about. at least, finally, let's wait for the first publication of some pictures of dagon, otherwise they have pictures of everything. no one is shown. victor same task. you wanted about the rules of gateways. we were told the gateway is not only a cart. nothing you are going. uh, in general, but to compete or fight with a much stronger and much better armed than you gopnik, then most likely you will lose this, you understand, therefore these are generally the rules of any fight. this is about the rules of the gates. for some reason, we believe that if we use the rules, the doorways will ignore international law. yes, the west ignore international law. wait, not that what happened, but iraq in 2003 and in a number of other places has nothing to do with international law, but it has to do with what they can objectively afford, given their resources are greater, than we can

boast. we can we can talk about what we are like me i yes what to do something, yes, if they swear, international law. and we what we what to do? so we two which we must do, first, do not act recklessly. i 'm not talking about destruction, reaper, it was right that they removed it correctly. they will now, and then criticize and so on, essentially could not do anything, but, but the first rule means to evaluate their resources adequately and the second rule is to act in such a way that there is maximum benefit and minimum damage. currently . here's everything that's been happening in the past year. it doesn't happen because of no if you paid off with a positivist somewhere somewhere in a remote territory, then here, perhaps , your logic would work. now a gok gopnik has come to your house gopnik i mean, the joint launch is knocking on your door and at that moment you answer the gopnik.

since he can afford to answer here, but that until february last year , the shelling of the belgorod region of the kursk region was not our territory was in the donetsk region. unfortunately , many more people are dying in the dpr now, but it is much worse it’s bad for it to stop you want it to stop victor yes, again, surrender in order for it to stop only one and this is a recipe not to give up, but we can’t win we can’t it seems to you so, you and i were different collar, because we are at the level, if it wasn’t, sorry , you choose the strongest. and if you have enough spirit, that's all the spirit for him. no, victor of wands was brought up in the united states, the business was brought up there, including you graduated from school in america, and this is how

since the age of life, when with a chin rest from the american experience , that if you go many times to a stronger enemy, which is much better armed than you and do not calculate your strength, then it turns out from me that any specialist in areas. people's relations knows perfectly well that it is important not only the presence of strength, but also determination and international relations in the history of international relations dofiga examples when physically weaker countries , but more determined ones won north korea north vietnam would have a lot of these huge numbers even in the 20th century, so strength doesn't matter . that's what a boxer matters. yes, dear friends. yes, we stop until it's all, but it doesn't matter. here is what is known. everyone should be and everyone so, when i said there, here's what we uh collect for the next block. ah, do

the americans want military action to escalate? well , let's do it, yes, because, in fact , this also now speaks of how much we understand, will we have enough strength, but how much do you do you understand, will our enemy's strength be enough? because it's necessary here. collapse there really new facts. so interesting. let's get to that in a couple of minutes. do not miss the events and people of the week on national television in the american banking system smells of fried. why are the bankruptcy of large banks so similar to the beginning of a new one, if not the great then at least a great depression, will the bursting american banks be able to drag the entire world financial system to the bottom? the battle for bakhmut, how ukrainian losses deprived the west of hope for ukrainian counter-offensive, the beginning of which washington demands from kiev in the adventure

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on our website leomax.ru it becomes clear. we continue so made a new statement. after his investigation into the explosions of the northern streams, he now receives special attention to literally everything that he says and writes. so, he was speaking in public. he said that in the united states, according to his data, they are really preparing for direct intervention, military operations in ukraine will happen then. now i will quote this exactly when there are visible prospects for the defeat of ukraine we in the us are probably just fooling ourselves about what is happening in ukraine about what the results will be and i'm not sure even when it comes to militarization. we will agree to this, we have already deployed the eighty-second brigade in poland and the 101st in

romania, and we are talking specifically about neo-botalion brigades. we see that ship after ship with american military equipment arrives in european ports. she didn't even brief white house reporters about it ask. i'm told the schedule will be like this. it is necessary that we support nato in offensive operations against the russians, which will not deceive the world, but it is we who are at war with the russians. why should we do this? i'm not sure that many of us studied history for the last 3-4 days in stalingrad, the death rate among russians was 24 hundreds every 4 hours. and they haven't lost the battle, we really want to get into a fight with these guys. i don't think, i don't think we're ready. andrey vladimirovich , since you have long said that sooner or later there will be a direct collision, and nato is with us. so the question i have is: and let's proceed from the rightness. hersh from the fact that the americans really intend

to do something like that. here is an episode with this reaper, or something like that will somehow influence these militant intentions of the united states. i have been saying for a long time , so the working group, and according to the assessment, it is possible to participate in the military operation in ukraine, it started working in december last year. this is understandable. that is, analogies, analogies, historical, which are safe do not work. that there he is not right. i say again that ah, and prepared prepared options for the introduction of nato forces under the pretext of protecting facilities in infrastructure. ukraine, with associated power plants, it will be implemented, but in an extreme situation. if the russian will be different, then i ask, if we continue to act in the same way and also defend ourselves, it will, uh, irritate our opponents more, or, as it were. well, so they decided and decided no, because everything has already

been decided. it's already like that. let's most likely decided that here is the drone incident that we discussed in the first part of the program. it's not just testing. this is another element of pressure. that 's precisely because the americans themselves believe less and less in the victory of ukraine . even though they will deliver there, i would like to make sure of this. oh well , i don’t think that this is some kind of general opinion if ukraine starts to lose sharply. here is herge. as a matter of fact, this scenario was voiced. excuse me, this is just in case ukraine starts losing sharply, because what if andrey ivanovich says that there is some kind of commission. everything just talks about it publicly. herr talks about it publicly. perhaps there is simply an unannounced yet date when we will be told that here he is to defend. i think that this date can only be scheduled solely for the case of a certain

development. now a counteroffensive will begin there, and she will completely fail it with her leopards and khaimarians and others, then this will already be a loss. in ukraine , it will be very difficult to continue to supply it even in america wait then look, here, explain to me this way, if ukraine loses this one becomes obviously their partner. well, when when wait well, when and uh, then this plan comes into effect, which is also voiced by the morhenge, that is, then nato goes directly to save ukraine to help. and if ukraine wins i don't say it when i say it, if then and then it turns out that cheers. hurray is possible, which means that the russians can be finished off and on that, then they must also enter the war directly in order to achieve it. give andrei nikolaevich naturally. if the scenario was, you know, we can, if we develop this physical version, ukraine will simply later be accepted by nato directly to finish off the forces of the laminate will not. now with regard to the deployment of nato troops in the situation of our

offensive. i think it is possible only on one condition, on one condition, if they are sure that the russian troops will not engage in battle, that is, the dividing line. and if the factor made the territory it can be, or there is another option, but then the american society will be trained in direct confrontation with us. and andrei mikhailovich is not preparing this now, on the contrary. now there is a thesis that is straightforward. it is imposed by all the main ones that we are fighting ukrainians, but we do not interfere in the conflict. this is the mantra, supplying repeated every day. with such a mantra to enter into direct conflict to blame this mantra, using all the arguments that you used a year ago, you can not for american society. this is a very useful topic, it cost only zelensky to hint about the death of the ukrainian savoy american soldiers. perhaps this caused a very strong rejection among the americans, straight. here, and even among the establishment, so today the american society is not ready for this. so let's nikolai igorevich somehow

here, comment. uh, these plans, which vladimirovich controls, have been working on everything for a long time, because they will not change in any way, because in my opinion. it is very important what was said at the end of this speech, and the losses in stalingrad , which did not break, did not break, and these losses mean both sides and society must understand that the continuation of such such a conflict is american. uh, european russian death, everything will increase. bye bye and the fact that so far everyone is ready for this, what we see and gevork i personally tell you. stop inciting the settlement now at the person and said that we are ready to watch out watch out for other people know, because there is no full-fledged victory. horror concludes that all the same, everyone will come to

peace negotiations, indeed they call, for not one more to die it is impossible to break it in the other direction. all, maybe i'd love to share. uh, peacekeeping pathos but, unfortunately, i insist on my very beginning of a special military operation, that it will be completed only after the gentlemen on both sides of the ocean put their finger on the nuclear button. until that moment, people will continue to die more and more and more and more will be brought up, uh, not directly, most likely the forces of the north atlantic alliance . military contingents from various friendly ukraine first of all poland , of course, veterans are already appearing there. and then there will be more of them. yes, this vacationers will go further. uh, this spiral of escalation will also unwind and no one

will stop nikolay unfortunately, no one. well, no one becomes. can smart can stop, because because the risk of this finger, then do not hold back is very large. and this is what keeps the book going. let me just go back to the beginning of our program and uh collar rules. the first rule of the gateway to stand is not to stagger. right now, both sides are standing and not staggering, or at least they pretend, terrible that you will break the hell out of us, and both will stand to the last maxim anatolyevich, colleagues. well , let's not be fooled. we must already eat now and are not controlled by the centers for the conduct of hostilities. they have an instructor. uh, maybe the 82nd division, which is stationed in poland, they form the volunteers , so called in case you get captured, you don't say that you are from 82. at the same time divisions yes, as we had in ponte in the first chechen war. here they formed the volunteers and they entered grozny there, and they are already fighting. will there be a direct collision? i think no. are they leading troops to ukraine

after we start active offensive operations. i don’t understand, we will either go beyond the borders with poland or stop somewhere. that's when the line will be clear, where we will stop, and then they will start negotiations. and we will negotiate. that's when nato forces will enter from one side. we are with the other side definitely no direct unconditionally. eh, there will be no collision, but there will be an agreement, somewhere we stopped. they are on one side. we are on the other side of both right here, uh, there will be some kind of buffer left, maybe, but like, kiev region. this is how they used to draw western ukraine there . this is where they will either be a buffer in the form of some large piece of neutral ukraine , or there will be no buffer at all, which means that neutral ukraine is the one that putin proposed creating. probably yes, more likely we will simply divide ukraine with the poles. we will divide with the ukrainian regime of the sea with an inaccurate division. i don't know with whom it will be it's their

problem. we will take what is ours for what we claim, what will ensure our safety. this is how the war should end, or any other version of any other expression on ntv introduced a different program. and here is my episode. uh, it means that there was a map of ukraine for us to see some archives of zhirinovsky venedikts were in, and they came up to the screen. you see, they began to divide this e ukraine very interesting fifteenth year, that is, alexey alekseevich, as long as they agreed that ukraine would not remain in the form in which it is, it would have to be divided. and so they drew there, based on their uh conclusions, how to properly divide it, to whom the division we are close to another division. do you think that there will be some other option, which i am absolutely 100% sure that

neither poland nor hungary nor romania officially any part of the territory of ukraine no why did you use this word now nobody is not going to share russia 's responsibility for what is happening now within the framework of western international law will not decide whether romania is there or i don't know, especially hungary on its own. this will be decided in large offices and they will simply say if the kiev regime collapses, and in the process of our offensive they will share a pleasant decoration in general, you just need to look at the map now, here is the map that russia controls now that it controlled 2 months ago 6 months ago. i think that russia is now russia is not moves significantly in this direction, if you look at the map of december 1941 and draw conclusions from what is shown on this map, then you will add how it all

ended. i agree that it is true, but in the event of a loss to ukraine, nato troops can directly enter this territory under any mandate under the pretext of a un decision there, uh, maybe even in contradiction, well, with the right of the wind of russia , since we yes, we do not pay attention to international right, therefore, i agree, by the way, with viktor that yes, poland romania and the rest will not claim the territory. come on, it doesn’t matter on the ground, it’s just that a certain part of the territory of ukraine will be preserved, and parts of the territory of ukraine, which may exist, like ukraine with a certain center. maybe even with the fact that in the constitution there will still be a territory in the ussr, and in this case just troops. nato or, more precisely, the nato bloc led by the united states and russia, they will face a choice, either to continue further, but here it is really possible to move on to a threat. here, in fact, mutual nuclear strikes, or to continue the confrontation by indirect methods, that is, to arm this remaining part of ukraine with hot fever freeze and

then somehow there vietnam there the war went on continuously under different regimes of the forty-fifth to seventy-fifth year in afghanistan how long is the war between india and pakistan this unfortunate state of jama kashmir? in the same place, the official border practically means nothing exactly the same, in general, the situation may develop on the territory of russia, germany , that's all, in this situation, a nuclear strike can only be provoked by a threat existential existence, but that is what we are now fighting for survival. our victory is to survive marovetsky, who said that russia must be destroyed, that it has been said many times that it must be crushed. let there be 50 pieces that need a protracted war, so that i say that for us victory in many ways is not losing. it's to stay. it's to resist the fact is that there are rules of the marauder. you talked about a marauder's doorway, when they meet the slightest resistance, he leaves and goes to rob someone further, even. if this person is obviously weaker, but he risks getting some kind of cut, hit something else, he’d better go and rob another

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order on our website leomax.ru. it becomes clear, and we continue talking about military action counteraction. and now we will talk about friendship and mutually beneficial cooperation, if there is any , i am ready to give you an example. we didn't agree. he himself threw me now that's what i'm doing, i'm doing mutually beneficial cooperation in the program , the meeting place is invited to another project of my own in a different format. and there we communicate with you during this concert. i answer questions about our program and tell about our guests. sorry taking some hello gifts, again for our guests we also talk a lot about politics. this is here win-win cooperation win-win cooperation. since vanya made me talk about it. we can cooperate mutually beneficial on friday at the cinema house in moscow in st. petersburg on

sunday at the cultural center troitsky a next saturday 25 in kazan at the house of chemists here is the april schedule. not either in my social networks or on the site andrey norkin.rf, you can look. here but we, of course, now we will talk about mutually beneficial cooperation between countries and here vanya's remark. actually case is very appropriate. does it really exist. i think that, of course, there is, but in the current conditions, this mutual benefit has to be somehow camouflaged to hide, and there have been several episodes in recent days of such, well, alarming, that is, if you immediately receive information, you look and start worry about it . if you remember, here, i think, a couple of days ago, even here, i talked about this episode with turkey , which stopped the transit of goods that come to us through parallel imports. so here are these unpleasant news came from our, sort of like situational partners

from turkey and you india from serbia and in all three cases it turned out that in general, there was more panic than uh, some real problems, eh, but nevertheless in one question remains sinister. let's take a look at this story. at the end of last week, turkey suddenly stopped the transit of sanctioned goods coming to us through parallel imports , bloomberg immediately began to assure that this was the result of the implementation of western sanctions by the turks the day before, the transit of sanctions to russia resumed, and the pause in turkey was explained by the use of a common customs system with the european union, in which the ban was updated. not related to turkish goods for all goods from whichever country they come from, the same measures are taken, if they are on the sanctions list, then they are not allowed to pass.

anti-russian sensation. bloomberg tried concoct, saying that india supported the western-imposed ceiling on russian oil prices. and they say. now the russians will not be able to sell energy to indians at market prices ministry of oil. india had to urgently refute this, but the sediment. as the saying goes. remained india will not violate western sanctions on russia, including the $60 price cap imposed on moscow's oil purchases india has held detailed discussions with the us and other g7 countries on the sidelines of recent meetings and the g20, one source said. and they seem to be satisfied with her promises. but an unexpected blow to russia's back was received from serbia by the minister of economy of the republic of serbia. basta called for joining the anti -russian sanctions, saying that the serbs are paying too high a price for not supporting western restrictions so far, the head of the serbian honey and the vice-dachach had to justify themselves, but the statement of the paste. this is his personal opinion and belgrade is still with moscow

, our country is already paying a big price due to the non-imposition of sanctions against russia and this is becoming unbearable. i am like a minister economy, i see what pressure is being exerted on serbian president aleksandar vučić, i can’t accept that we are silent, that’s why i am in favor of imposing sanctions on russia. so all three cases turned out to be free or i don’t know, a special provocation or somehow - i don’t understand, does this mean vadim vadimovich that we should calm down, that everything ended well. or we must remember that there is no smoke without fire, and sooner or later something will happen. it can happen, of course, it can happen for india, you can be more or less calm, but for turkey and serbia , of course, you can’t be calm, serbia is very unlucky with geography. it is surrounded on all sides by e, strange esanata, two hours from all. well, besides, 1.5 million serbs still work in the european union. yeah, so the opportunity

to twist serbia's hands. the european union has enough, of course, serbia does not want to join the sanctions. e, spinning already like a frying pan, this is how much it will be enough, e, in your opinion, the economic damage. what can be the strongest if the tour bends? if bends, if india bends, serbia because well, with all due respect, so offhand, when you start thinking, well serbs yes, we can fly there. there it is, yes it is. we are from the biggest worst partner. wait for his field, bream, do not shake in front of me already in this case, to say that for them it will be possible to be more or less calm for them. yes? here are the turks turkey is a nato member. moreover, it has not the easiest relationship with us. there may also be something here, after erdogan or re-elected or not re-elected. here , too, turkey is under pressure and turkey can be sold. and why are you in india you repeated twice? here you can be calm that this

confidence inspires you, because once the situational allies agree, they write the same nasty things. why don't we trust these nasty things any more indian premier fashion is trying to put india on the world stage as a major independent player. in addition, the deflection under the americans of the british is the deflection under the former colonialists is the length of the indians. uh, strong emotional effect. they can not afford it, but in the case of the turks and serbs, of course, we will have to hear it there. yes, i agree that this is an unimportant topic, why? because the indians buy oil much cheaper than $60 at the level of 32-35 and more now and moreover, they have now moved almost 30% of my oil calculations in the group, so this is they are already transparent money. yes, and hands are generally some kind of paper money. well, like everything that we can buy in

europe, of course, we will be in the red, and we will have a lot of group, but come to use we can, of course, you can’t buy anything in india as a country, 1.5 billion. a person knows the country , you enter the void, but everything is much more complicated because the turks are turks, after all, they very competently said they and they stop and they really stopped all the sanctions goods. so everything has been working for 2 days. how it works in relation to sanctioned goods. no. no, andrey vladimirovich believe me. well, if you want, you can once again check the sanctioned goods through turkey, they stopped going, first of all, spare parts for machine tools, and so on and so forth, that is, according to that they do not pass the nomenclature that is laid down in the eu sanctions, see here the right one and the other. indeed, when this situation appeared, it appeared about five or six days ago, indeed, everyone here who was carrying something sanctioned, they turned around and went there

a little further away somewhere else to unload. now türkiye is skipping everything. she will skip again because you were right. and you were right. no. there is one more point here. yes, it means that the fact is that they do not let the sanctioned goods pass, and we have yes, these goods, those going through turkey make up less than 15% of the total flow of goods going through turkey , so this is invisible to us. especially since these are manufactured goods. first of all, these are not consumer goods. there are no refrigerators, nothing these are machine tools. this is equipment. these are aircraft parts. this turkey did not get scared, and sanctions imports do not go. i understood correctly. yes , understandable, understandable. there is absolutely no accident sergeevich just a few days ago. uh, turkey announced these restrictions in this, in fact, it did not even announce to understand that she, uh, introduces them, and this was

related to the theme of the grain deal. on the eve of the extension, turkey tried to put pressure on moscow, and it is also not at all accidental that this time moscow extended the grain deal and agreed to extend the grain deal not for 490 days, as several times before, but for 60 days, why 60 days because 20, according to - to my mind, we didn’t extend it by 90 there was yes, but why 60 days, because it’s worth looking at the calendar, the electoral calendar in turkey, erdogan’s elections soon moscow wants to see. it's pragmatic look at who will be the next leader, how the first round of elections in turkey will go and then make the next decisions. because if erdogan is now frankly speaking, erdogan has a good chance of being re-elected. and there is a possibility that the opposition. and as a result of the elections, some will try to somehow destabilize the situation, the likelihood that western countries can somehow support the opposition, but uh, for now, that erdogan has good chances of being re-elected, if erdogan is not re-elected, then the situation in turkey is for

russia becomes much more complex. this is understandable, because the opposition there is more pro- western and it is. maybe you started by saying that i just asked you not to get hung up on turkey alone. yes, they are asking about turkey that turkey is in such a way that russia’s hands will be tightened. so that we continue to participate in this grain deal, isn't there some kind of exaggeration here, because knowing erdogan's relationship with our superiors, everything is there. you can agree without this demonstration performance, you know, a it is possible to agree, but you know the tools and our side, as if after after, when russia imposed sanctions against then it was impossible to negotiate when russia tried to put pressure on turkey success in those days, but after the syrian incident, the syrian incidents were shot down, the leaders did not talk now the leaders they communicate, which means that everything is resolved in a working order very briefly, everything that we discuss about india, serbia, turkey , and a number of other countries. here is the deterioration

of the potential deterioration of their relations with russia it is connected with what if there were two options in which all this would not have happened, the first option, if russia had not started, a special military, and the second option, if it had started a special operator and would have won rapidly, and now all these countries they look at russia and analyze. they see that russia has reached a military impasse, and that there is no way out of its speed. and you said in the previous part. we can just defeat such a vision. here is a picture of the world taking shape. that's how he thinks, yes, yes, and let's let others, yes, well, there really russia should capitulate russia should capitulate constantly stuffing. well, he thinks so. yes, he has the right not to capitulate. i did not say that. you 're talking surrender. so, look what , what i showed there, but showed that this is money money, you know, this is money to lay out, and we are losing money, if

really the serbs are primarily an emotional moment. although, there is also some money. there are our gas projects, well , relatively still, yes, then in relation to turkey, georgia and for which they also gave this money at the expense of exactly. here is the transit, which is now carried out by the leadership of the countries, and india , turkey, as it were, does not sign it. i allow you to do. uh, re-export of sanctioned goods. they simply turn a blind eye to this, and within the framework of this, when closing us, this situation is completely eliminated. yes, the great mighty great yes, but it suits us completely if they are sold. the americans are now doing exactly this. they are pushing them precisely because it is a small distraction, because the united states is trying to deal with the vietnamization of the war. they shift all the hardships of the war, and allies on their partners. why do you need to line up these allies, why do you need

to eliminate now whom it is easiest for them ? turkey is the easiest. well, i said serbia. yes, the easiest thing is damage from serbia, a small one of those who have suffered big damage to turkey because the elections, because sociological polls show that they are coming, because there are people who said that erdo has so far. listening to the chances of winning, i believe that erdogan will win, but not because he will win at the polls, but because he will win the elections. he he will do everything differently, and he will not leave power, in any case, an administrative figure, and he will not leave power in any case, and i understand him, he is right, because otherwise everything will be completely bad for him and for us, so in this situation. we all know guessed and ah, why then the turks are easier to push through the americans, because firstly, nato's tool and secondly, the turkish economy. he really needs american and european money and for earthquakes. what nato tools can be used to push through turkey erdogan himself i say that if anything, we’ll take off your base in angelica, please, let’s take off and let’s get out of here, but on the other hand

, erdogan has a middle east where the turks , to put it mildly, don’t like erdogan has a process very complicated relations with iran are extremely difficult in to some extent, even pre-war a has been measured with saudi arabia before, i will eliminate one of the fronts. on which turkey rely a very difficult situation for turkey is now emerging in the middle east from the point of view of turkey and in general, that for turkey the situation is not going well . but this is again due to the earthquake, as georg rightly noted, but i do not at all think that nato plays any key role for turkey. yes, the fact that the turks will need money to support the collective west and so on. yes, but this military mechanism called the north atlantic alliance, as shown in recent years for the tour, does not particularly play the piano in the middle east . yes, the arabs do not like the turks, this is a fact, yes. uh, with iran, too, well, not double georg not

intimidating. well why why? no no, these are two islamist countries. they just have dots. ah, but the supports yes, there were much more points of contact than until recently saudi arabia but even saudi arabia has reconciled, what can we say about turkey with which everything is plus or minus normal and between them there is qatar and with a boat near well, when also muslim brothers, banned in russia, er, the turks are influenced very much and have excellent relations with iran. it's not necessary here. here e exaggerate with regard to sanctioned goods. honestly, i don't know, maybe there is an insider, how much he reacts to the constitution, too, in great detail, and as far as i was told, again, experts are familiar with the situation, including in turkey that this transit was just a hitch. it was caused by the fact that transit data on sanctioned goods was updated. as soon as they are updated. they are with the eu in the same customs zone. uh, the transit of sanctioned goods has also resumed. first of all, for is it an accident that this happened just a few days before the resumption of the grain deal? no let's

do it. here. i'm worldly now, yeah assume that these are interconnected mcd cases, but i don’t know this, for sure, so i say it as it is and also clarified this question here, but again, maybe there is some kind of insider. maybe you know, here i am. i'm not denying it, again. whom the deal? yeah, uh, i still don't really understand either, at all. that's why we need it, that is, theoretically, understandably, but practically. well, even the deputy minister of foreign affairs of russia said, yes, we are extending it for 60 days. uh, provided that promises are kept, that is, they still haven't completed. but it's kind of like that. uh, a tool for maintaining normal relations with those whom we consider to be allies in this situation, yes, according to the third e, which means the paragraph, with regard to the most vulnerable and least vulnerable countries , it is worth three to mark the very beginning . here i absolutely agree with my colleagues, and i will add. why is india independent? well, everything is very primitive here, india has much more

leverage on america than turkey and uh, especially serbia uh, i remind you that only india is probably, uh, well, one of the few countries in the world along with iran, there with china could afford to ignore the admonition. depa e yes, and continue to buy weapons and not get any sanctions for it. they had some unrest there in america, they wanted to, but then the us congress became, and god bless them, only india can afford it? why , again, because there is a lot of leverage to contain china. and of course, this is one of the very, very important ones, but one of these, and there are a lot of things. this is a big country. this is almost one and a half billion of the population is a huge resource. and we have something to buy from them for rupees, including, of course, they will not give up cheap russian oil, for nothing, and here is this anti-colonial one. that's from cheap of course. that's the anti-colonial moment. he plays a very

big role. jay shanhar foreign minister , india has repeatedly said in person western comrade. e. well, i won't retell it verbatim, but the meaning of such a disc is guys. you bastards create game and anti-indian act against our national interests. and now we must advance. national interest and on your first visa no, this will not happen and the navy has a flag there. they change take off the british colonial cross and leave their emblem. in general. it's very symbolic in fact. i believe, i am the last phrase, that it is our merit that we discovered. here 's a one-pane overton window. and uh, they actually did what the iranians didn’t do, because i remind you that i was more than three phrases when they left the fpo, and the americans and indians then patiently withdrew nuclear deals. you really just added, uh, sticks to the fire my question then andrei nikolaevich if india is able to talk to the west,

as she talks. now if india is open to us and we are india open. can we indie trust, well, consider her our full-fledged ally, in the sense of the word, or is it, as always, ears on top, a situational partner. the wind changed and ran in different directions. you see, well, what is a multipolar measure, about which something says that everyone in this case is guided primarily by their own interests and india is our ally to the extent that it is beneficial to india today. i would also simply remind that the historical ties of the ussr to india are, in general, much more unlike turkey there, and when, most of the time, it has always been our opponent. this matters too. india that's how you see it today. she talks about very simple things, in fact, low politicians. that is, there is a very simple logic. today we get much more from russia than we can get from the west to us it's profitable. why do we have to go in the wrong direction for some ephemeral things? many western politicians skated, and in general with the same

effect, because they were asked. well, in fact, besides the fact that you tell us that you will enter the camp of goodness in uh, what else do we need from the fact that we will now begin to turn off. uh, how else to behave calmly or still? behave never, by the way, i would say here you know about the influence of understanding. you know, here fell, uh, reaper, and this is from the point of view on the outer track. it's much, in fact, wiped out, you know this visual configuration, that is, about everything that we always talk about gestures. good will. and here is another gesture for you , and those who see it know, this is also good, as regards exclusively our people. you know you have to stop now. let's also have some candidates for the club of allies or non-allies.

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allies or allies. here's how to look. we have told you many times in this studio that the west is trying to shake the transcaucasus in every possible way. it brings some kind of fruit, yes, just last week, the foreign ministry armenia announced that the country is refusing someone for the deputy secretary general of the collective security treaty organization of the collective security treaty organization military alliance, where russia is included, and on the eve of the premiere of this country, mr. pashinyan commented very ornately. we will now show you in full, we will show you a quote here, that here the design bureau somehow treats feeding differently and , as they say from armenia, otherwise transfer it entirely by right. yes, i did not repeat. when the csto secretary general arrived in armenia in 2022, he told me that the csto there is concern that armenia will leave the organization. i said that this concern is out of place, but there is another one. my assessment now is: do the dcb want it or not. she leaves armenia

the day before. it is known that pashinyan dismissed the commander of the joint grouping of troops of russia and armenia, tigran, the post was torn, he held 5 years, and in january armenia announced that it was refusing to hold on its territory, a student of the csto, the indestructible brotherhood 2023 they were transferred to kyrgyzstan on the territory of the kyrgyz republics it is planned to conduct a joint exercise with the peacekeeping forces from the joint stock bank of the indestructible brotherhood, during which they will work out the tasks of post-conflict settlement of the crisis zone, conducting a peacekeeping operation. however, disagreements are felt not only along the lines of the csto. the armenian prime minister proposed germany and the united states as mediators in negotiations with azerbaijan, he publicly talked about some kind of five-sided format, where russia has no place, french mediation does not like the four-sided logic azerbaijan. and here is the solution. let's make a pentalateral invite germany usa

what are you laughing at? i here is the first quote. in fact, many information hastened. they just hurried to interpret that armenia is going to leave the dcb, armenia is not going to pashinyan , pashinyan is going to be different now, a person who is hosting in armenia, no matter how we feel about it. he makes a decision in armenia successfully needs many years to implement a program to search for knowledge not about dkb from armenia about russia from armenia and all those connected with russia institutions. including at the dkb , they use no tires, but they sell them. naturally, according to news from western friends, they use a number of implements. which did, including russia in the armenian direction, yes, in recent years, what was it, what was it? but this system policy. it is realized by them enough. successfully, as we see today through the elementary three-move, two-move provocations like what e first means, azerbaijan attacks armenia after me

do nothing to protect armenia says, russia come help if it is pashinyan the armenian prime minister is not going to defend the territory of armenia why putin should be a greater armenian example than the armenian example is not why and after moscow does not take decisive action such as carpet bombing, which now the azerbaijani troops are reaching out to their electorate and says, look, the russians did not save us, the russians did not help us. and why did i say that a series of russian mistakes, connected in part with russian indecisiveness ? yes during the second karabas kvn well, the assistant part is that russia did not work with the armenian society and continue to work for me. as a result, we see a situation where the armenian society. first, in the eighteenth year, they vote for this russophobe, and then in general, from a political point of view, the situation is absolutely strange after the lost war. after he wandered around the western bunkers, as when the people were looking for him after they lost the second karabas to the war in the twenty-first year, they come again and again the lord even

sees that he is opposed to him. uh man who personally has good relations with putin and when i ask their armenian friends, i say, guys, you saw the choice that's about the russians or here, he is all- russian that he supports robert kocharyan. and why should everyone do something practically all the time? we are here in this case, we are defending armenia for me. let them sort out their territories there themselves. we wanted independence, please, we protect our own interests, if armenia is higher under russian influence, we will get about the turkish axis. ends in black. as you said from the russian influence of armenia, i ordered you from this, armenia will not be then it will not be easier for you, the armenians will finally move to the krasnodar territory. vadim well, i do not agree here that armenia will not be west for

its own reasons. still, it is not beneficial for armenia to cease to exist. uh, the west is here and the groove is driving in a very peculiar way. remember the azerbaijani environmentalists who blocked the road. remember the armenian activists who are our base. ah. in general, the centers of influence, that on azerbaijani ecologists, that these armenian ones are not the same, there is europe and here turkey is not, it is rather interconnected in armenia, america and in azerbaijan, britain . in general, the center is the same here. and the big west here is to push both armenia and azerbaijan at the same time, as far as possible from russia, of course, armenia from a higher level, the azerbaijanis are even lower and, in general, uh, are doing the process. to unfortunately, this is a repulsive process. everything is already irreversible no, reversible, lord

it seems to me that he will turn to me, until dear er, the head of the armenian government is the leader. it's not that irreversible. well, or so we say, turn. eh, irreversibly, well, to a certain level, of course, we will not have such relations with armenia as with georgia, but all the same, they will be worse and with azerbaijan they will be worse than now. uh huh let's. here, when the spouses get divorced, and here one of three possible reasons takes place, or it is to blame spouse, or spouse, or a third reason. both are good. guilty yes, good in quotes good in quotes, of course, both are to blame. forgive me, but in this story, both we and they are good, without removing responsibility for not yet a divorce, but moving towards a divorce towards a divorce. from armenia, i still have to state the correctness of gevorg’s words

that we sit back and watch how the russophone promises an armenian girl to find out. why we should and why what we should do is important. in fact, we must, because we do not want the closest ally, what should we do. i was simply invited by russophobes and so on. this is the explanation we need to completely rethink our our diplomacy of our our expert community, which e functions in e. we have 80% of experts on television. look, they are not for they are not listened to by those who make the decision. i just see it, i see how it works, the growth of cooperation. forgive colleagues for the cooperation of the ministry of foreign affairs, our dear, dear. eh, beloved adored and our expertise. yes, our rhetoric is our soft power seems strange to me. i may even agree with you and you don't think how you wait a specific example that everyone knows

that the mfa is not working properly and that's it. in general, know that cooperation does not know. eh, they don't work right. a. and how should one work specifically? come on, let's go straight to the lung. i have one comrade, i won’t give his last name, who is quite high-ranking in armenia when he took a certain position and they called him from the us embassy in a few minutes and told us where to go to he said to you or you to us, come, they arrived in half an hour. they set the table, they sat and talked to this man for 2 1/2 hours. this is what he tells me. so our ambassador or his lack of respect. we show yes, they did not call. here's just a small example for you, just here it is a live case. you can ask a question to your living kitty, although for the word of the case. we have here well , dear friend, to the call of this american ambassador about a diplomat, and, so to speak, thank you very much, go, so to speak, and pipe. why don't you do it

the american ambassador to you? excuse me. yes, he took his position in the armenian parliament. this is a position in the russian parliament. this position is called a bad word. sorry no, wait, here's the man. in general, i prefer not to be friends with bad people, if i am friends with someone, then they are worthy or good. he is a patriot to suffer. he loves armenia , he chooses what is good for armenia and the armenian people american american ambassador who comes to him, who comes to him to drink cognac. it's good syrian roots. answer, please, there is a certain one for him points in this story. what happens about the state position of a particular official depends on which representative of which country he is yes, yes. i'm just the key. let's leave these emotions, let's turn on the pragmatics. american ambassador for an armenian for an armenian politician. oh yes, it's better than empty. if we do not fill the void,

for example, the americans will. this is happening now in the armenian society and not only in armenia, it's empty. and it is immediately filled in by mr. soros. well, i'm in quotation marks, no , no modern country, i'll tell you, you can work in armenia, they offered to leave emotions a little bit, yes, then i already lost my voice, that is, uh, the existence of the country's independence. that's a sovereign state is impossible, and without having to meet foreigners of some foreign states. yes, american soft power is a master here, if we don't know the problem is not that we don't know how to do it. we know all the training manuals written the problem is that we do not want to study, our ministry of foreign affairs does not want to study. he basically doesn't want to do it. here i am you don’t know how to make your own americans. let the americans do it for money. well, no need here, yes, why the americans? let the decision makers call me. i will tell you who you can work with in armenia, who

really understands the situation and is responsible for his words. this is where it makes me laugh a little. he is so you know, now we have a meeting of taxi drivers, again , dear workers of this service sector. i love and appreciate you very much, but as you know , taxi drivers know everything in general, as i know everything is well, but i still have the impression of you to say that everyone knows how it should work. one host why beg then? you don't have to invite us. oh, because we know that i'm his colleagues, we can all act, but we 're not being approached. so it is possible to talk about it live here. you just said, well, excuse me, i said it to you in general for me strange. from you specifically to you, plus some girls, beauty. why did you call me? if you don’t let me speak there or you don’t like what i say, you just say, call us taxi drivers you yourself discredit. why are you inviting? why did i also call myself taxi drivers and say that

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in general, we have views that we demonstrate against the integration of georgia into western structures and the integration of georgia into nato and europe. well, we openly urge, and the authorities to start a dialogue with russia, and we believe that the right person is not only for the devil. yes uh work on establishing strategic allies and their relations in full swing activists thwarted. the flag of the european union was trampled upon, then burned, before that one of the demonstrators climbed onto a table in front of the parliament building and attached a georgian flag to it. in turn, the leader of the ruling georgian dream party, irakli and kabakhidze, talking about the riots that swept across the country last week over the upcoming law on foreign agents , said that during the protests, there were just

revealed, true to agents, withdrew the foreign agents bill without its approval. it has already brought results in the parliament, as foreigners self-lubricated during rallies, georgian agents of foreign countries revealed themselves as extremist actions. so andrey vladimirovich you are absolutely right when you say that these shares of uh positions are several orders of magnitude higher. e less than those that were then when they demanded, it means to remove this law on foreign agents, the law was revoked, and when you and i were all discussing this topic here they said in plain text that the georgian government would go in 2 days. something it is not paloto, i explain. why, because no. this is well done so explain. why? because guys, keep yourself in the hands of andrey vladimirovich spectators, because the georgian opposition, which, by the way, brought people out 30 times more than those who said

several orders of magnitude 30 times more. it’s clear what order is. oh well, i say, i finally lived to 505 years simply. in general, when i seem to be explaining something related to mathematics, just now the georgian opposition has done a very right thing. she suspended some of her mass performances and began negotiations with law enforcement agencies. this is a very correct thing for the government. why doesn't it fall? and the government is precisely for this reason that the opposition decided the business structure - this is who the government is or not, the power structures - this is sorry, i don’t call, and this is the link. eh, these are the same people who are opposed by the security forces, who such traitors discuss when they talk about uh, there then pro- two days left. yes, my friends

will also be released soon, and so on, when if everything goes , as negotiations are going on there now, then within a week and a half everything will be fixed, fixed, and everything is the limit in all seriousness. listen that the opposition is negotiating with the bottom. with a link about ukraine of chordons, you are serious now, we will watch it, it doesn’t work like that. in general, this is the power apparatus of georgia, what do you put in, but this is not serious. after that, i will tell you how the power apparatus works. no need. i just have to swing the power apparatus. and you you will tell me. you know, he's trying to negotiate with the ministers. or at least their deputies. it would be a serious conversation , they told me that the district policeman weights there. now the issue of the government in tbilisi will be solved well, enough, but this is not necessary, even though people are quiet quiet yes, at the beginning of the tbilisi police it is much more important than the minister of internal affairs to be a good police chief, just say

so, it’s so, in short, it doesn’t burn at all from you respects and took the car and rights. so let's you pro-saakashvili wanted. yes, the thing is we need to see how this situation can develop in dynamics. i didn’t have a prediction at all on that air and before not that something would happen, in general such predictions would happen, in 2 days in an hour and a half they are already a. i said, yes, ah, the bottom line is that what, but the fact that the opposition has somehow calmed down in georgia now, does this mean that they are not going to make new attempts with the support of the west to overthrow the current georgian government, which they believe in the west americans believe that let's say this government is loyal. so more or less, at least not anti-russian. for them, they think about the russians, they want to throw him off, using the reset, using the georgian position, you understand, here's the law about foreign agents. it didn't work. here the georgian government showed healthy pragmatism and withdrew the law and thus removed

the issue. well, you see, i named the law , sent it to the venice commission, and there they saw that an excellent law should be taken by europe, the law on this country, they again no advance will be made, but we must look into it carefully, that the georgian opposition, with the support of the western countries of the united states and some others, can undoubtedly try to find a new trigger for opposition actions against the government. what can be yes? andrey vladimirovich said that in a week and a half he would be released, they would not let him out just like that. but, are there any doctors for saakashvili or any other figures that saakashvili has health shattered to the point of death. they say this, they work for him now there they measure his weight of some kind and so

on. if i do not declare that now it is already close, every two days it still gives. well, true. well, still there, but with him, so it is very important that it is important not to talk about the fact that someone is right or wrong about health with akashvili. here it is important not to let the georgian government give this reason, but to compose all the demands. there are no protesters here, no way, no way no way. but regarding this trigger is a potential reason to control the situation with saakashvili's health so that it cannot be used and will simply demand the government to resign, without any saakashvili and it will be the same and it will be the same colleagues partly, maybe the version is right victor but there is another point of view. why did the opposition calm down, it lost support, the west, that's all, they didn't lose it. yes, when the georgian authorities went over

the red laziness for prompting, we will wait for you, what the georgian authorities did, the joint retreated, everything is wrong, everything is wrong, and since then such harsh statements that were made when the bill was not made by the west in relation to the georgian leadership, perhaps he said well, we showed you a yellow card, you understand, everything the question is removed . at the same time, if you do something, then something is now possible between the georgian leadership and the west, appropriate negotiations , including perhaps sanctions against russia, flies, i don’t know what, but at least for today , but the chances, but the fall georgian the government directly depends on whether the west will continue to support the opposition or whether the georgian, uh, national, unified national movement will in any case take to the streets, but without support. to the west , these protest rallies mean nothing complete absolutely zero no government support for any government fall it will not lead. well, a week and a half later. let's check a short pause. we will now

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will be drawn to us. or put it is a very important thing. in fact, we need to understand that no one will fit in for us. there's another question. what exactly is putting one partner in every sense on his wife. and so, in principle, you only need to look at yourself and understand that all the others who are around you are temporary fellow travelers, who sometimes interestingly coincide with you, sometimes not. i i also think that it is necessary to work with partners. here you can work calmly being, well, almost sure that you will not be thrown today with iran, uh, well, syria iran is primarily one of such serious countries that have something to offer us. we have something to offer them. you can rely on steven seagal, he seemed to be a reliable partner. now the situation is going

to beat all the russophiles of the world, in fact, seriously, well, anyway, we will talk about what we talk about many times for operations. we can only take care of ourselves. but if we ourselves we will show those who are able to withstand this situation, then it will be possible to talk about more serious partners. i just think they are. maybe i'm wrong. but when they tell you that each side acts there based on its own interests. hmm i repeat again, maybe i'm wrong. and perhaps somehow the interests of the strange, they should be very different. each side wants to exist in a peaceful environment to trade there. with others, well, in theory then. and i agree. i'm in the final for some reason it's going to sew two stories, which he explained to us, the first story is about someone we can rely on. you said iran and syria a second story. with all due respect to your friend who called, god, american ambassador. you understand, with the countries that you named, neither siri nor iran, there such a number is not such a number, in principle, it is impossible

. that is why these are the very countries that we can rely on. it's time for you to check. it's absolutely time will not be time. now it's my turn, that's why i said that in the stories that i cited abbas is such a worm, and it’s very good that now there was a dialogue, but because we were talking today about partners and allies in the modern sense. yes, and when we pronounce the word ally, well, of course, it immediately arises in our heads. ah, world war ii. the lord somehow summoned stalin roosevelt to himself and they were churching and talking to them. so i want to talk to each of you individually. i need to understand what you think one question. i need to ask you. what is the first stalin he says, well, comrade stalin tell me why you are fighting stalin says, lord, how can we not fight, when the enemy attacked our earth, robs our cities , kills our people god yes, your war is justice? household mr. roosevel, why are you fighting, how can we not fight,

when our industry is 100% loaded because of this war, we got out of depression, our unemployment disappeared. the lord says, yes, your war is reasonable. and you lord churchill why are you fighting and who told you that we are at war it was a meeting place that you can't change 14:00 weekdays ntv broadcast all